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eibhear writes "Over on Groklaw, PJ has a theory that SCO is about to embark on an astroturfing campaign, based somewhat on Darl McBride's repeated comparison of the Slashdot and Groklaw styles of blogging at the recent SCOForum conference. PJ reckons: 'an astroturf campaign depends upon a non-moderated site, which explains McBride's sudden fondness for Slashdot.' '" The whole thing is really fishy, but the story is really worth reading just to see the weird battle occurring between SCO and Groklaw now.

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  1. I like SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCO is cool and stuff!

    1. Re:I like SCO by Ralph+Yarro · · Score: 5, Funny

      SCO is cool and stuff!

      Absolutely. As a completely unbiased and disinterested observer I have always found SCO's case immensely compelling. I have bought SCO Source licenses for all my friends at Canopy. They make great presents, especially while the low prices last!

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    2. Re:I like SCO by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Heh. I'd say that the only way this would work is if the SCO people could manufacture a loyal userbase, but it's more likely that they'll just hire PR people to constantly post BS, which is about the sorriest thing I can think of. I mean, say what you will about Microsoft, but there are people who really like their products.

      I remember when SCO was a respected and trusted name. They did Unix, they did Linux, they were cool.

      I still keep my laptop in an old Caldera laptop bag I got at the convention where they got a standing O for announcing that they were changing their name to SCO. Bag's kind of ugly now because I hacked off all the logos with my pocket knife and burned them into a little pile of sludge in an ashtray outside a building where I pitched a system that did not involve even the smallest bit of SCO. I look forward to the day when the rest of SCO looks like those charred and melted logos.

      And, of course, it goes without saying that I'll be happy to post this and my many other anti-sco viewpoints 24/7 on any site they put up.

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    3. Re:I like SCO by Proudrooster · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dude! SCO ROCKS!

      I can't wait for the next version of their killer O/S. It's very similar to that crappy FREE version called Linux. I am going to buy SCO stock as soon as the markey opens on Monday., they product is so good that everyone in the world is going to be licensing it by the truckload.

      I tried buying an older SCO product from CDW and it has been backorderd for over a month. Apparently, SCO is selling so much product that they can't even print the license keys fast enough.

      I am really looking forward to the next version of UnixWare and all the innovative OpenSource products that it will include that have been cleaned up, secured, and neatly organized by SCO software engineers. Without SCO repackaging Open Source software, we'd have it get it from all those loose cannon, non-professional programmers. I for one want to thank SCO for adding professionalism to software engineering world. Let's face it, you can't trust just any programmer to do a good job.


      Ok I can't take it anymore, I have to go throw up now......

  2. Damnit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    When will SCO realize they're SOL?

    1. Re:Damnit by rampant+mac · · Score: 4, Funny
      "When will SCO realize they're SOL?"

      When SCO is DOA. RIP. IANAL, but IBM will send them out to BFE, ASAP. WTF?

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      I like big butts and I cannot lie.
  3. SCO are great by captainclever · · Score: 1, Funny

    Groklaw lies..

    SCO are Great!
    SCO are Great!
    SCO are Great!
    SCO are Great!

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    1. Re:SCO are great by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sounded vaguely like "Allah is great..."

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    2. Re:SCO are great by BarryNorton · · Score: 2, Funny

      If only posters could be modded incite-full...

    3. Re:SCO are great by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Allah is great..."

      SCO Akbar?

    4. Re:SCO are great by Dehumanizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      There are no Groklaw soldiers in Utah! I triple-guarantee you!

      --
      The Tlog - a technology blog
  4. Pay Up Lusers! by Gatton · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCO is here and we are the rightful owners of Linux. So pay your licenses slashdotters or feel the wrath of Darl!

    Oh crap I'm not signed in am I?

    1. Re:Pay Up Lusers! by digitalgiblet · · Score: 3, Funny
      " SCO is here and we are the rightful owners of Linux. So pay your licenses slashdotters or feel the wrath of Darl!"

      Would that be Darth Darl?

  5. Astroturfing? by kpansky · · Score: 4, Funny

    How could anyone accuse a reputable company like mine^h^h^h^h SCO of blatantly manipulating people like that.

    This is obviously an attempt by the administrators of this website to discredit SCO and avoid paying for their legally extort^w required license.

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    --Kevin
    1. Re:Astroturfing? by boarder8925 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dear Slashdot reader,

      I thank you for your attempts at bringing honor back to the SCO name. In reward for your efforts, I'm willing to offer you a 1% discount when you purchase your Linux license.

      Sincerely,
      Darl McBride

    2. Re:Astroturfing? by Dehumanizer · · Score: 2, Funny

      "A previous SCO user."

      Man, what have you done? Now they'll sue you!

      --
      The Tlog - a technology blog
  6. I don't know what you mean! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    SCO is an honourable company based upon a sound business model. The evil Linux hackers stole all of our..*cough* their code, and gave it away for free. Heathens!

    -Dar...Trollkore?

  7. Mods? by einhverfr · · Score: 1, Funny

    hehe. If I had a mod point, I would rate you as funny. You have done an extremely good job of a parody of an astroturf campaign.

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  8. You know you're a 2nd-rate litigious bastard when by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    When you focus equal attention on a multi-billion dollar company and a paralegal's weblog, you're probably screwed...

  9. Easy fix... by FyRE666 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Simply auto-moderate all comments by UIDs > 700000 down to -1 ;-))

    1. Re:Easy fix... by mooingyak · · Score: 5, Funny

      700000 is just too round of a number. It should be something like, (picking a number at random) anything greater than 720677. It's a good prime number.

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    2. Re:Easy fix... by FyRE666 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey, watch it, this 700000+ UID has mod points today... =P

      Heh! The reason I chose 700000 was that statistically speaking, more people under that number than over it are likely to have mod points. If I'd gone with 300000 I think I'd have been beaten down to -1 much faster ;-))

  10. Re:Lies are still lies. by blugu64 · · Score: 5, Funny
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  11. Lets make it easy to identify any astroturfing. by Jailbrekr · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you work for SCO, or are affiliated with SCO in any way, please reply to this message.
    Failure to do so will result in (insert any patent or copyright threats here).

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  12. Re:Non-Moderated, not Slashdot by stratjakt · · Score: 1, Funny

    As long as you dont badmouth the iPod or Tivo, you're safe around here.

    I keep making the mistake of mentioning what a ridiculous waste of money I think that both devices are.

    --
    I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
  13. A Hearty SCO Endorsement from Joe Public by Andy+Mitchell · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think SCO are really good, they make the best, err, Unex, er Unax, Unix I mean. Loonux isn't Unix 'cause its not the real thing.

    Hey, can we move the autocue a bit nearer?

    Using a free Unix rip off is like being a communist and me and my buddies at the steel mill don't like commies.

    </Astroturf>

  14. SCO's side by spellraiser · · Score: 5, Funny
    Quoth Groklaw:

    And he [McBride] predicted that "open blogs" like Slashdot will start to tell SCO's side of the story, and then the media will get to understand what is really going on.

    Allow me to be the first to 'tell SCO's side of the story, then (Slashdot style, of course):

    1. File lots of lawsuits
    2. ???
    3 Profit!

    Sorry, that was just too good to miss :P

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    I hear there's rumors on the Slashdots
  15. I, for one, ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Would like to reaffirm my commitment to Linux. I am not now, nor have I ever been, a SCO spy disguised as a slashdot user. Nope. Not me. Definitely.

  16. SCO would never do this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    A reputable corporation like SCO would never engage in this kind of activity. It seems very strange to me that PJ would even mention this, because I do not recall Darl saying this in his speech at SCO Forum.

    What is going on here? Has Groklaw suddenly decided to use accusations in an attempt to damage SCO's case instead of logical arguments. This isn't like PJ, and seems unprofessional.

    1. Re:SCO would never do this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "Look, look! The Astroturfing begins! (See parent)"

      My parents are dead.


      But are they visible?

  17. Interesting... by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 4, Funny
    McBride's sudden fondness for Slashdot.

    McBride and slashdot are technically oxymorons, are they not?

    That's like saying he likes having his tiny nuts bitten by badgers.

    It has been said that the difference between gutsy and foolness is very thin. However, picking a fight with an active community of highly intelligent zealots who have a product that's years beyond your current product goes under the foolish cateygory.

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    Yes Francis, the world has gone crazy.
    1. Re:Interesting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      That's like saying he likes having his tiny nuts bitten by badgers.

      Yes?

    2. Re:Interesting... by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Funny

      McBride and slashdot are technically oxymorons, are they not?

      you are close, you're just reading in way too much.

      get rid of the oxy and that will prefectly describe mcBride if he is even toying with the idea.

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      Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
  18. Re:Lies are still lies. by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is the mormons.

    Apparantly through some twisted variation on natural selection, some of them lost an "M".

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  19. A new Moderation Category? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...

    -1 Flaimbait

    -2 Astroturf

  20. Re:Non-Moderated, not Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    As long as you dont badmouth the iPod or Tivo, you're safe around here.

    Actually, if you really want to unleash the full fury of Slashdot then try suggesting that MacDonald's should be allowed to serve their coffee hot.

  21. Re:Lies are still lies. by kpansky · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thats not how you spell 'morans'. Duh.

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    --Kevin
  22. Re:Astroturfing by boarder8925 · · Score: 5, Funny
    And everyone knows that anonymous posters never get modded up.
    Well, you didn't, anyway ... =P
  23. Re:Lies are still lies. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    It is the mormons. Apparantly through some twisted variation on natural selection, some of them lost an "M".

    Oh no! The ormons are coming!

  24. Don't trust anybody over 30... by moojin · · Score: 4, Funny

    But in Slashdot's case, "Don't trust anybody with a Slashdot ID Number > 800000."

    --
    Why did I lurk so long before registering for a Slashdot account? I could have had a Slashdot ID of less than 100000.
    1. Re:Don't trust anybody over 30... by starling · · Score: 3, Funny

      And especially don't trust anyone with a /. id less than 50000.

      They're the puppet masters behind the original conspiracy.

  25. Message from SCO by binaryDigit · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dear Mr Jail Brekr

    We wish to inform you that it has come to our attention that large portions of your post have been determined to have originated from our copyrighted Post base. If you wish to continue posting, you must arrainge a license agreement with our legal department as soon as possible. Failure to do so can lead to legal action against both you, and any who reply to your post with any part of it quoted, thereby also infringing our copyright. For those users who have posted after the original offending post, but before the posting of this post, you will be given the option to obtain a Posting License for a very minimal and reasonable fee. Please contact our legal department as soon as possible.

    Have a nice day (c)

    SCO Legal

  26. Legal clarification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    If I don't reply to this post, does it count as entrapment?

  27. Damn I thought this was a new game! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm a big fan of NFL Blitz, and when I saw this I thought there was something new for us to play.

  28. Sample Astroturf Message by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    When it comes to the Intellectual Property issues, Darl McBride is demonstrating genuine leadership. The SCOSource Licensing initiative takes the IT industry in the right direction by accelerating the successful adoption of properly licensed Linux installations, providing clarity and guidance on Copyrights, Trademarks, and Patents for USL Unix and derivative Systems, and providing incentives for individuals and small businesses to save and invest for future Unix Systems adoption.

    Contrary to the FSF-sponsored communistic rhetoric attacking the USL business model, the proposal helps every business which utilizes Linux in their Enterprise, especially the Small Business Class. This year alone, 92 million Linux Users will receive an immediate benefit averaging $1,083! That's not pocket change for a family business struggling through uncertain economic times. Combined with the initiatives to help the Corporations protect their IP assets, this plan gets people back to work and helps every sector of our economy.

    (blatantly ripped off Astroturf from the GOP)

  29. Slashdot Blitz! by Agent+Green · · Score: 4, Funny

    And Darl in the back said, "Everyone attack!" and it turned in to a slashdot blitz...slashdot blitz...

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    // IEEE 802.3: All 10base Are Belong To Us
  30. What I really want to know is... by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Funny

    a) If Darl Eats beans
    b) If Darl would like to see a movie staring George Wendt
    c) If Darl would like to see George Wendt Eating Beans in a movie.

    Obscure references are the best

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  31. /usr/dict/words by DickBreath · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think that what SCO Legal meant was that most of your post contained words, which are a copyright violation of the /usr/dict/words file, which is part of Linux, which SCO owns.

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    I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
  32. Re:No, he's beginning to Get It. by Darth23 · · Score: 2, Funny
    We are /.

    We are Groklaw

    resistance is futile.

    ;-)

    I think Darl's main goal is to drive the stock price of Slashdot and Groklaw so low that they will cease to function - after the insiders have sucked the companies dry of any cash they have left

    No wait, that's his main goal for SCO.

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    -------- In Soviet Russia, "Soviet Russia" sigs hate Slashdot.

  33. Ahhh.... SCO Licenses by WarMonkey · · Score: 5, Funny



    Ahhh.... SCO licenses...

    The toilet paper of choice for those who don't find $20 bills ostentatious enough for the task.

    Do they come in two-ply?

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    -- I could tell right away that she was impressed with my HUGE Slashdot Karma.
    1. Re:Ahhh.... SCO Licenses by ChairmanMeow · · Score: 2, Funny

      Do they come in two-ply?

      Yes, but you have to buy the Business Version for 10 Users, which is $1400.

      But really, is two-ply worth sharing it with nine other users?

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  34. maybe... by SQLz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe SCO will hire the same astro-turfers that tried to pump up the Nokia N-gauge. I heard they rock.

  35. Re:Just a reminder... by sdcharle · · Score: 2, Funny

    This can not be repeated enough. Rob Enderle is so profoundly worthless as both a technology analyst and a writer in general that I urge anyone to do a quick Google search to see for yourself how you'd be better off getting your technical news and information from, well, I don't know, Courtney Love.

  36. It could backfire though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think sco is cool and my brother he is SUCK A GEEK. He put LINUX on his computer and i can't even get in, i have to log in but I can't, so how am i supposed to use aim with that? I bet SCOW will let me use aim to talk to my friends and stuff like that. I vet Clay Aiken would bever use linux. Also he is NOT GAY! Stop saying he is GATY! Love, Ashley

  37. Oh, come on... by Shoten · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is SCO really all that bad? I mean, they're just some hardworking company...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!

    Sorry, Darl...here's your money back, I just couldn't pull it off with a straight face. :)

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  38. Re:In the water by Jodka · · Score: 2, Funny

    >(btw: wtf is in the water out there? SCO, Orrin Hatch, etc.)

    >>...On top of this, throw in the whole persecution of Mormons and you'll get a bit of cultural paranoia...

    What's wrong with persecuting them, don't they derserve it?

    Oh.... Mormons

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  39. Push polls and creative advertising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    These SCO push polls are pretty creative, actually. I just got off the phone with one - the question that got me thinking was: Did you know that Linus, the thief who stole SCO UNIX code and made the bastard Linux OS, is a direct descendent of Karl Marx? Pretty frightening, I'd say!

    Of course, the thing that will really convince the PHBs at the office are the new SCO posters I saw at the computer store today. You can't miss them - they all have catchy slogans, like:

    • Closed Source Shall Set You Free.
    • Be Safe: Be a Paranoid Narcissist.
    • Loose Source is Noose Source!

    (credits to Terry Gilliam's Brazil - but I'm sure SCO and Mr. Boies will discover some Copyright to the quotes in a formerly undisclosed AT&T memo)
  40. SCO Linux IP Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Dear SCOsupporter and potential stock holder,

    As you know, SCO achieved SCOsource revenue last quarter of approximately $11K.

    While this may seem in a decline as compared to previous quarters when we recorded millions of SCOsource revenue from Sun and Microsoft. Those millions from Sun and Microsoft, were in fact for other Unix licenses, and not SCO Linux IP licenses.

    Thus $11k in fact represents a record for SCO: 16 Linux IP licenses sold in a single quarter.

    Furthermore, as we believe there 2.4 million servers running Linux, this gives us great potential for the future revenue. We have a market of potentially 2,399,984 servers remaining!

    If we sell each of those users a license at $699, we will achieve revenue of $1.67bn!

    However, do not let that limit your vision! As our friends at CNET and CRN recently recommended, we should raise our Linux IP license price. Just imagine how much revenue we'd generate if our price was $699,000 per Linux server.

    In short, SCO is great, please buy our stock! Now!

    Yours sincerely

    Bought Young
    SCO CFO

    P.S.
    I'd appreciate if nobody read this page:
    http://www3.scofacts.org/~alpetrof/scofacts /

  41. Confession by scarletire · · Score: 2, Funny

    I accuse myself of the following crimes:

    I have seduced computer users of both sexes.
    I have been to the porn sites.
    I deliberately contracted the Sasser worm in order to spread the worm to my wive and other computer users.
    Together with other agents I have counterfeited web certificates, hacked commercial websites, added copyrighted code to the linux kernal, and coordinated denial of service attacks against SCO by means of PGP encrypted emails.
    I stand here a victim of the influence of Linus Torvalds, guilty on all counts.
    I'm glad I was caught.
    I was mentally deranged.
    Now I am cured.
    I ask only for you to accept my love of Darl McBride.
    I ask only to be shot while my computer is still clean of copyright infringed software.

  42. SCO's userbase by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd say that the only way this would work is if the SCO people could manufacture a loyal userbase,

    Ha! Customers are sooooo 1990s. You know, all that quality improvement mumbo jumbo crap. Hell, I'd bet you're one of those "customer is always right" freaks too.

    The progressive business model is definitely anti-customer. We learned this from the dot-com experience. You see, marketers put up perfectly brilliant companies, distribution channels and products. Think of winners like Pets.com (come on, anyone who doesn't love the Sockpuppet is a Nazi and outta be insulted by a pack of PETA freaks), Flooz.com (as if anyone could not buy something with Whoopi as a spokesperson!), DigitalConvergence (home of the CueCat and a huge excess of keyboards with way too many :::: keys) and other winners.

    These companies were introduced to consumerspace and what happened? Customers didn't buy like they were supposed to. Losers! Countless VC firms realized that customers were the weak link in the chain and when a VC makes a radical discovery like this, the business world listens. So customers were out.

    Naturally, employees became sorta lame too and nearly a million telco employees had to be thrown out the window. But this has much more to do with needing good storage space for all the products that didn't get sold than anything else. No hard feelings techies - if we could have stored all that unsold junk in India, we would have. It was just easier to move your jobs

  43. Re:ATTENTION SLASHDOT READER by einhverfr · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dear SCO Corporation;

    It has come to our attention that you have been using the term "Astroturf" in deliberate violation of our trademarks, and in ways which will dilute the value of the trademark.

    Astroturf(R) is not merely an artifical sod replacement. It is a next generation fiber surface with a look similar to grass and low mainenance requirements. Since 1985, we have been manufacturing such high-quality products and have been heavily investing in our brand. Please immediately cease and disist from using our trademarks in your marketing campaigns.

    Sincerely,
    Astroturf, Inc. www.astroturf.com

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  44. Dear Slashdot Reader: by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am Kwame Rufatata from the SCO Group in the wonderful lake-strewn state of Utah.

    I am writing to tell you that I have a problem which you can help me solve. It seems that we have received a large sum of money from an unnamed company in the wonderful lake-strewn state of Washington that we do not wish to pay the exorbitant taxes of the government on.

    So, we would like to transfer these funds to an account outside the jurisdiction of the government. To do this, we need someone who is prepared to use their account to transfer our funds in order to conceal their point of origin.

    If you will please give us your bank account number, we will transfer our funds through your account to an unnamed institution in the wonderful lake-strewn country of Switzerland. In return for this service, we will gratefully transfer you to a service fee of 10% of the funds transferred through your account. This could amount to as much as FIVE MILLION DOLLARS!

    Please respond to my email as soon as possible, because our investors may force us to pay out these funds due to our falling stock price.

    Sincerely,

    Darl^H^H^H^HKwame Rufatata
    SCO Group

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  45. Astroturf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dear Astroturf Corporation:

    Pursuant to your recent letter and acknowledgment of SCO's Federal Copyright ("Astroturf"), and reference to an alleged registered trademark, I would advise you to review with counsel the status of intellectual property law with respect to the precedence of copyright.

    As disclosed in the SCO Federal Copyright statement, SCO has the exclusive rights to all versions, derivitives and combinations of the mark, Astroturf. As you may be aware from our ongoing litigation with respect to UNIX Copyrights, it should be clear that a Copyright takes precedence over Trademarks and Patents. It is with this foundation that SCO has pursued the protection of its mark against OSG trademarks and IBM patents.

    We would be pleased to offer you an opportunity to license the use of the mark for a minimal fee of $105,000 (please note that the recording of this settlement will be remarked as "SCO UNIX LICENSE PURCHASE" in all communications and disclosures for reasons unnecessary to this discourse).

    Should you have questions, please contact my office.

    Sincerely,

    S. Spoon Hatch
    Chief Counsel

  46. Re:Non-Moderated, not Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Try another one saying anything about the iPod or Apple and you will get the same thing.

    EX:
    I like the iPod because it just works

    Or:
    I can do that with my G5.