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British Town Worried About WWII Ammo Ship Wreck

Radical Rad writes "For 60 years, 1.4 kilotons of unstable world war II bombs have lain in the rusting wreck of a US cargo ship half-submerged on a sandbank in the river Thames. If it explodes it will be one of the biggest non-nuclear explosions ever with predictions of a 3 kilometre high wall of mud, water, and metal fragments causing devastation to the nearby town of Sheerness in Kent." The BBC has more.

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  1. Phew! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Glad I still had time to change the vacation plans!

    1. Re:Phew! by ir8monkey · · Score: 2, Funny

      ya you see..this one will be bigger.

    2. Re:Phew! by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 4, Funny

      > The thing about being the biggest/largest/tallest/longest etc of something, is that you only keep the title as long as nothing else comes along and surpasses you.

      Not in Texas...

    3. Re:Phew! by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Funny

      I've always been in agreement that we should make Alaska into two states, which would drop Texas to number 3 on the list.

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    4. Re:Phew! by ReciprocityProject · · Score: 2, Funny

      Does that sentence make anyone elses head hurt?

      Yes, it did. Literally, I felt the pain. Maybe it was coincidence, but owwww. Why did you have to show it to me again?

    5. Re:Phew! by flyneye · · Score: 2, Funny

      It'd be like pulling a rotten tooth out of an englishman.one good pull and it'll all be over.
      no more pain and a hole where it used to be.

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  2. Please gove more precise details by el_gibler · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your Friend, O bin Laden.

    1. Re:Please gove more precise details by Scud · · Score: 3, Funny

      Forget bin Laden, has anyone informed the IRA?

      And from the wiki:

      Named after Richard Montgomery, a celebrated Irish-American soldier of the 18th Century, who was born in Dublin in 1738, elected to congress and later fought against the British in Canada, only to be killed in the assault on Quebec in 1775.

      He'll get his revenge yet... :)

      John

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  3. Re:What are the odds? by jrockway · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's go set them off and see! Waiting is no fun!

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  4. Idea... by odano · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lets nuke it and sell the video on PPV.

    1. Re:Idea... by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 4, Funny

      Isn't there a Nuke lying somewhere of the coast of America?

      If I remember rightly, they have also left it there rather than disturb it and possibly set it off.

      The thought of a huge mud flinging explosion is also somewhat reminiscant of the rotting whale carcass left on the beach.
      They decided to use 1/2 a tonne of dynamite, and in the reports words:
      "the blast blasted blubber beyond all believable bounds."

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  5. quality engineering by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 5, Funny

    i cant think of too many things designed these days that would survive 60+ years of being exposed to the elements, especially buried in a sand bank underwater... and then would still work close to specifications...

    yep, they just dont build things the way they used to

    1. Re: quality engineering by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny


      > i cant think of too many things designed these days that would survive 60+ years of being exposed to the elements, especially buried in a sand bank underwater... and then would still work close to specifications...

      FWIW, about a decade ago a fishing boat offshore from my home town drew up a honking big WWII bomb. The Coast Guard decided that popping it was the safest solution, which they did in an empty praire reachable by an inland waterway. Everyone for miles around felt their windows rattle, and no one knew what it was until the news carried the story later.

      A friend says when he was a kid a fisherman / WWII vet had another big bomb hanging in his garage across the street from where he lived, right in the middle of a residential neighborhood. Never figured out whether it was live or not...

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    2. Re:quality engineering by polymath69 · · Score: 3, Funny
      i cant think of too many things designed these days that would survive 60+ years of being exposed to the elements... and then would still work close to specifications...

      True, but do remember that a bomb basically has one thing to do and only has to do it once. It's not as though it has lots of moving parts constantly wearing and requiring service...

      Want something more impressive? 50,000-year-old paleolithic stone hammers that still work like the day they were new. Now that's quality construction.

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  6. Re:How is this news for nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny


    Exploding things are cool. Every geek knows that.

  7. These people are missing the point. by multiplexo · · Score: 5, Funny
    Rather than worry about this they should have a big tourist event around it. Figure out what the safe distance is to view this, fence off two big concentric rings around that, and then sell tickets to watch the show. They could even have different bands playing at different quadrants of the circle before the big blow-off. They could get AC/DC in one quadrant and Judas Priest in another. It would be awesome, and they could make money doing a live PPV event.

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    1. Re:These people are missing the point. by PingPongBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Good idea. The people will be deaf by the time they blow it.

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  8. Umm, do you need a job? by way2trivial · · Score: 2, Funny

    neither do I, not that badly...

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  9. Gilligan? by iamdrscience · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did anybody else think of that episode of Gilligan's Island where Gilligan accidentally brings in a WWII mine while fishing, or was that just my own television warped mind?

  10. Re:Lets Hear it for Procrastination!! by scupper · · Score: 2, Funny
    this sounds like a bunch of people not willing to take a risk and just waiting for the next person to take on the responsibility..
    You've just summed up the last 130+ yrs. of the Commonwealth.
  11. Re:How is this news for nerds? by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 3, Funny

    "So. Let's see. It'll require super modern technology like "SCUBA" gear and big "Cranes", maybe even "Vehicles". Wow. I'm so excited I think I wet my pants."

    nice reply, but

    'SCUBA' wont be used for much of anything

    go ahead and use 'Cranes' to lift 1.4 kilotons worth of TNT buried in a rusted out cargo ship in a sandbank underwater in a large river.

    What kind of 'Vehicles' are you thinking of? 'Vehicles' is a pretty wide ranging group. Do you plan to use boats, or airplanes, or segways, or what?

    As far as you being excited and wetting your pants, I will agree with you there. That is certainly not news for nerds. or stuff that matters.

    Be a little more specific as far as to why you dont think this wont take a little engineering or some other nerdly skills.

  12. Re:gross negligence by c0dedude · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh, this is one of those lovely times when one city planner looks at the other and says
    "Well, do you want to take charge of cleaning up the destroyer and risking great loss of life and a good bit of London?"
    "I thought you were going to do it!"
    "Well, if you're not doing it, and I'm not doing it, and it's not like it's going to happen tommorow, what say we let it go for a bit?"
    "Jolly good."
    The sad thing is this conversation probably occured in
    for(year=1945;year=CurrentYear;year++)
    dontfi x(destroyer);

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  13. Ah... by iamdrscience · · Score: 4, Funny

    I suspect that the reason those articles do not cite a plan of action for defusing these explosives stems from the British governments indecision over whether they would rather protect millions upon millions in property or see a really really cool explosion.

    1. Re:Ah... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      It would save them a lot of money on Guy Fawkes day.

  14. Re:Largest free world non-nuke was 4.8 KTons ANFO by c0dedude · · Score: 3, Funny

    Were they actually testing anything, or was this a thinly-veiled excuse to blow shit up?

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  15. It's a shame... by iamdrscience · · Score: 2, Funny

    Too bad it's on the Thames. British people just don't have the same deep appreciation for blowing stuff up that Americans do. I suppose that's one of the reasons we revolted though...

    1. Re:It's a shame... by Jerf · · Score: 4, Funny

      Remember that one of their biggest parties is for when somebody failed to blow something up in a big way: Guy Fawkes and the Gunpowder Plot. I don't think this guy would get a holiday of his own here in the States.

      (Ha! Take that all you Brits who think all us Yanks are uncultured swine! A topical British cultural reference from an American! On behalf of my countrymen, Neener neener neener!)

    2. Re:It's a shame... by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 2, Funny
      Remember that one of their biggest parties is for when somebody failed to blow something up in a big way: Guy Fawkes and the Gunpowder Plot

      I'm never sure whether it's because he failed, or because he tried :-)

      Still, who cares- it's a party and we get fireworks!

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    3. Re:It's a shame... by meringuoid · · Score: 2, Funny
      Speaking personally, that aspect was never emphasised in either my Primary, nor Secondary schools. We just learned that he tried to blow up Parliament and that we celebrated this.

      Let me guess: Catholic school.

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  16. Re:Largest free world non-nuke was 4.8 KTons ANFO by Alsee · · Score: 2, Funny

    The largest non-nuclear explosion in the free world was the 4,800 tons of ANFO

    And the largest non-nuclear explosion in the non-free world was when 1.2 Billion Chinese all jumped simultaneously.

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  17. Poor sailing by our by xsupergr0verx · · Score: 2, Funny

    Grandparents set up us the bomb!

    You know what you doing!

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  18. Re:Halifax Explosion Munitions Ship Explosion by ShinmaWa · · Score: 5, Funny

    500 people died after burning for 6 days

    Ouch. That had to hurt.

    Personally, I probably would put the flaming people out after a day or two.

    Three days.. tops.

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  19. and if it is an excuse to blow shit up... by commodoresloat · · Score: 3, Funny

    where do I sign up?

  20. I think i speak for us all when I ask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Who fucking cares?

    If you don't want to get asploded, don't live in England or wherever the fuck it is British people come from. Simple as that. Don't come bitching to us when a wall of mud and metal and I suppose various sea creatures and junk crashes down on your stupid little town. You chose to live there, deal with it.

    Why are the English always asking us to solve their problems? One is reminded of when the Great Plague hit England in 1576. If I recall, and I always do, it was none other than the United States who sent over Mr. T and the T-Force to wipe the plague out and make England safe for future American visitors. A few years later it's "Oh no! The Canadians are dropping bombs on our cities or something!" and we're over there again saving their asses. What do we get in return? A snarky attitude about the large amount of explosives we happen to have left behind when we were done kicking Canadian ass.

  21. Oh god. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can see that place from out my window, and that's the first I've heard of this.

    Typical.

  22. Reading comprehension is a good thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    If you bothered to read the entire first sentence of his post, you might notice that he wasn't tieing the 4,800 tons of ANFO with the Oklahoma City bombing, but with the "Minor Scale Event" (link stolen from the post you're berating I thought I'd let you know, since you obviously never got that far reading it). The Oklahoma City reference was just to give the non-explosives experts an idea of what else ANFO explosives have been used for. Not really necessary, especially since it completely confuses people like you who apparently can't understand anything more complex than a Dr. Seuss book.

  23. Get the RIAA involved by calidoscope · · Score: 2, Funny

    Tell them that the ship is a haven for file-swappers.

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    1. Re:Get the RIAA involved by Justin205 · · Score: 3, Funny

      And make sure they know it'll be dark and they have to bring lots of candles. And matches. And oil lamps.

      And just to be safe, have a plane fly overhead and drop a flare.

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  24. Coolest Thing Ever by celeritas_2 · · Score: 5, Funny
    I have to say that watching fourteen hundred tons of the good stuff turn a river and small town into a crater would be the coolest thing to see all year. I'd even help everyone who was unforturate enough to have a house nearby clean it up.

    But WAIT!!!!you're telling me that a large abandoned ship full of explosives existed exposed to the outside world for sixty some years and it WASN'T looted by hordes of pyro teenagers? There must be something fundamentally wrong with the teenagers across that ocean. Methinks not enough good ol american made rednek would fix it right up.

    GITTERDUN!!!!!!!!

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  25. Re:Paraphrasing by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 3, Funny

    > has there ever been a wave that high? are you people retarded?

    First is a probable yes.. second a definite yes.

  26. Re:Umm, do you need a job?-YES! by BigT · · Score: 2, Funny

    And they tend to have cool nicknames, too.
    Like Stumpy, Peg-leg, Ol' one-eye...

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  27. Well done, mods by pjt33 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nice to see the mods getting it right: the suggestion that anyone would go to Sheerness for their holiday definitely deserves +5 Funny.

  28. Re:Question. by GISGEOLOGYGEEK · · Score: 2, Funny

    you could ask any question involving the US and 'responsible' and the answer will always be the same:

    NOOOOOOOO

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  29. Re:Nukes in my town by dbIII · · Score: 3, Funny
    managed to drop a nuclear bomb into one of the swamps
    Still, I'd rather they dug that damned thing up and removed it.We're too busy keeping Kennedy off aeroplanes to worry about trivialities like missing nukes.
  30. Re:Paraphrasing by anothy · · Score: 4, Funny

    well damn, that's just not worth it then. okay, guys, plan's off.

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  31. Send in MacGyver by Airw0lf · · Score: 2, Funny

    As far as defusing bombs goes, you can't beat MacGyver. In fact, he's been so bored of late that he's resorted to building bombs on aeroplanes (See: http://bbspot.com/News/2004/06/macgyver.html.) So I think he'd jump at the opportunity to defuse a few...

  32. Re:gross negligence by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 3, Funny
    I think the WWII cleanup effort was somewhat less comprehensive than you seem to believe it was. In fact, French farmers are still finding unexploded WWI(!) shells numbering in the tons every year. War cleanup basically consists of the following steps:
    • Kill remaining bad guys from losing regime.
    • Redraw map, divide spoils.
    • Put out things actually currently on fire.
    • Feed starving masses.
    • Rattle sabres about map/spoils.
    • Rebuild railroads, road systems, power, and plumbing.
    • If some major internal industry is of economic interest to the victors, rebuild that, too.
    The short and direct answer to your question is because we couldn't tow it to Bikini.

    (Which step we are on in Iraq is left as an exercise for the reader)

  33. Re:The only good thing to happen on Sheppey by TechnicalThug · · Score: 2, Funny

    yeah, I think most of Kent would second that idea!

  34. Re:Too bad they are not in Irak by Stevyn · · Score: 2, Funny

    Too bad you couldn't spell "Iraq" properly.

  35. News just in by Gax · · Score: 1, Funny

    News has just reached the Slashdot studios that Sheerness has officially declared to be part of Iraq. In an interview, President Bush announced:
    "Thank gawd! There's y'er nuclear weapons, y'all".

  36. The world would be better off without Sheppy! by MarkTina · · Score: 2, Funny

    Trust me, the world would be a nicer place without the Isle of Sheppy! It's aweful! It doesn't have beachs or sea it has mud! Aethiests could work on the water there! It's a nasty horrible, unpleasant place, with no charming features at all, a website called http://www.sheppyscum.com summed it up brialliantly! (pity thse site is gone now) And sadly my father is from their and my gransparents and family are STILL there .. which means I have to visit! I even ran away to New Zealand to get as far away as possible! Now I feel unclean after thinking about Sheppy and Sheerness-on-Sea(mud), need to go get drunk now to forget it. ;-)

  37. cool! by RMH101 · · Score: 2, Funny

    so all we need is, oh say a round thousand, of Arizona State Mine Inspectors. Train them as divers, and problem solved!