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Video Games Hit The Big Screen

Anonymous Coward writes "A movie theatre owner in Logan, Utah is hoping to start a new trend by bringing video games (Halo in this case) to the big screen. The local newspaper in Logan, The Herald Journal has a nice write-up about the success they had. Does anyone else think this could catch on to be successful, especially in college towns?"

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  1. hold up. by crtfdgk · · Score: 5, Funny

    waitaminute. who actually has time to leave the house to go game somewhere else? why on earth would you leave the safety and security of your 100% sunlight free cave of an apartment or bedroom to game somewhere else, and pay extra, and possibly *shudder* socialize and the real world? isn't the point of gaming just to ensure that geeks everywhere never see the outside world? or did i just miss something?

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    1. Re:hold up. by PetoskeyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't worry, they thought of that. The games don't start until midnight. Plenty of time to leave the house to play for hours and come back without any chance of a tan.

    2. Re:hold up. by Pharmboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is exactly why I play on two screens at my own house: a 51" projection TV, and an 80" projector against a white wall, both on computers. The colors are not as good as a monitor, but load up Doom 3 and start walking around the complex, and 80" of screen will make you poop your pants when something pops out and starts shooting you. The surround sound system helps, too.

      I'm already using the computer on the system for a media center anyway, playing games was the next logical step, and no P2/XBox needed.

      The theatre idea is perfect if you don't have the funds to buy your own or like to be more social with your gaming. I can see this being the next reason that people actually leave their homes and interact with other people, rather than go to bars and risk a DWI/DUI.

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    3. Re:hold up. by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And you think that going to a movie theater and either playing or watching other people play video games is socialiizing? (There might be a 12-step program for this, you know.)

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    4. Re:hold up. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't really like to pay $8.50 to see a two hour movie, I definately don't want to pay that much to watch some geek play one of the most repetitive games of the modern era in public. Other than splitscreen, it's not like you can really do multiplayer. Then, the quality would be abhorent with the low resolutions.

    5. Re:hold up. by jackbird · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Um, once upon a time there were these things called "arcades." They were very very sunlight free, often filled with smoke, and, while crowded, had very little socializing going on. They were pretty cool.

    6. Re:hold up. by Tongo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Anyone else think that all these hardcore gamers are vampires gaming among us?

    7. Re:hold up. by mayotte · · Score: 3, Interesting

      About 10 years ago I worked for a tradeshow company. I was in the (not so) grand ballroom of a Silicon Valley hotel converging a projector that was setup on a 9'x12' screen and needed a computer video source to test it.

      So I brought in my old MacIIfx and fired up PacMan of all games. Let me tell you that PacMan on a 9x12 screen in a dark room with a set of Bose 402s was amazing.

      PacMan suddenly got a whole lot cooler. But it was all for testing purposes of course ;-)

    8. Re:hold up. by paulcammish · · Score: 4, Funny
      Oh, just because we...

      have pale skin,

      are sensative to sunlight,

      have hightened reflexes,

      wear black,

      are rarely seen in public,

      have elongated canine teeth and

      drink blood

      ...we're Vampires now?

      Typical!!!

  2. The possibilities! by miscellaneous_havoc · · Score: 5, Funny

    If they let me play Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball on the big screen... I'd live there!

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  3. Uhhh... by agraupe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not sure if it's ever been something you can pay for, but the local Famous Players (big Canadian theatre chain) was advertising a Halo 2 fest with ten friends if you entered and won some sort of contest. That being said, I'd be more likely to pay 8.00 for a massive two-hour Halo deathmatch than a boring movie.

    1. Re:Uhhh... by Pxtl · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, one unfortunate fact about Halo that other games do better (such as the aforementioned DoA games) is the splitscreen. Its more fun watching a single game than multiple small screen games split up out of one big screen. A multiplayer single-screen brawl game such as Bomberman, Super Smash Bros, or PowerStone II would be best, imho. Fast enough to run a tournament that way too, and let the whole audience play.

  4. IMAX by wackysootroom · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Put Doom3 or Halo in an IMAX and you won't have any trouble getting $50 out of my wallet.

    1. Re:IMAX by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 4, Funny

      All playing Doom3 on Imax is going to do is shorten your lifespan by about 10 years. And soil a couple pairs of your trousers ;)

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    2. Re:IMAX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Tech Museum of Innovation in San Jose, CA. hosts the annual MaxGames Video Game Tournament. The finals are played in the IMAX dome: 40'x60' image and a 13,000 watt, 44-speaker sound system.

      http://www.thetech.org/events/maxgames/2004/

  5. But... by bburton · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is the theater really going to make more money doing this than showing a movie?

    It says that "There is a $3 charge for spectators to watch the games.", but that's a far cry from the $7+ they would charge for a movie.

    Who here would actually participate, either player or spectator?

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    1. Re:But... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      With your numbers, if it costs the theater $5 per person in royalties to play a movie, they come out ahead assuming the same number of people would show up either way.

    2. Re:But... by csimicah · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's during a time when the theatre would otherwise be idle... assuming the licensing fees weren't too high, it's found money.

    3. Re:But... by DeepRedux · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think the key is that "tournaments are scheduled for Friday nights at midnight". If this were at 8pm, I would not see how it would pay the theater better than a showing a movie. But by midnight they need a special event to get any kind of a crowd.

    4. Re:But... by ruprechtjones · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's it in a nutshell. Theaters make zero money from ticket sales, and their entire profit margin comes from consession sales. With this program, that door charge is all profit.

      This is how the big chains work, but the smaller theaters are either owned by the big chains and run older movies (at near 100% profit on ticket sales) once the initial release schedule is expired at the big chain, or they are independent theaters that run alternative/older movies.

      I'd pay 10 bucks to go watch a 3-hour Halo 2 deathmatch at Seattle's Cinerama any day. Hell, I'd pay more to sit in the front row of the balcony and play the deathmatch myself.

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    5. Re:But... by ticklemeozmo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      assuming the licensing fees weren't too high

      I just tried calling the theatre listed in the article (area code 435), they gave me Calvin Timothy's home phone (I pretended to be a manager of the local AMC theatre) and he said he's not at liberty to discuss the licensing, who they go through our how they got it.

      They want to market the idea before anyone steals it. Whatever happened to letting kids have fun?

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    6. Re:But... by donutello · · Score: 3, Informative

      From what my friends in film school have told me, the cinema owners pretty much break even on admission price versus distributor royalties. Where they make their money is from selling you overpriced popcorn and sodas. Ever wonder why not a single theater tries to compete on the price of concessions?

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    7. Re:But... by FlutterVertigo(gmail · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...the bottom line is theatres make their money off of concessions. Matinee? Cheaper ticket but the same price for concessions.

      *sigh* I've thought about filing a patent for something called an " intermission ". It would be a break in the movie. Those who fell asleep during a boring movie could get up & stretch, everyone who carried a drink|food in at the beginning and buy more (there's nothing worse than needing to empty your bladder during an excellent movie.

      (would peeing in the empty cup be a bad thing>?)
      come to think of it, I've never seen a sign which says, "Please don't pee in the cups.


      Unfortunately, theatres wouldn't reduce their prices of tickets or food - it'll be seen as a major increase of revenue and their stock will climb.

  6. If I get my hands on this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... Moviegoers will be wondering why they always see a Pac-Man maze burnt into the background of every movie they watch! Mwahahaha!

  7. Actually been done... by sarkeizen · · Score: 5, Informative

    Cineplex Odeon did this back in the early 90's. Allowing people to rent out a theater to play nintendo. It tanked, big time

    1. Re:Actually been done... by WatchAndListen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sure, but that was Nintendo in the early nineties. The pixels were probably measurable in inches on a big screen. 3D graphics and smooth first person gameplay make everything better :)

    2. Re:Actually been done... by josh3736 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      But that was in the days where you could measure the game's pixels on the theater's screen with a ruler. With today's high-res games, it would be more entertaining.

      Not to mention that in 1993, it was mostly only kids with (a) no car and (b) no cash who played Nintendo. Now you have gamers that can drive themselves to the theater and plop down a few bucks.

    3. Re:Actually been done... by halowolf · · Score: 2, Informative

      Every now and then there is a video game ad at a cinema, and all of them that I have seen have looked bad. Washed out, pixellated beyond all belief. Most if not all of them have been console games since their mass production and pop culture status is much more assured than PC games and makes them more suitable candidates for cinema.

  8. Coral link by Kinesthe · · Score: 5, Informative

    In reference to the previous article and to ward off any potential slashdotting, here's a link using the new Coral P2P cache. Enjoy!

  9. I did this by magefile · · Score: 3, Insightful

    At UMich Ann Arbor. With Super Smash Bros. and a few dozen others.

  10. Being done in Australia already... by Wolfcat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Village Cinemas in Melbourne are already doing this...See here
    What prizes can I win?
    First Prize: Family trip (2 adults and 2 kids) to the USA to visit Nintendo America. Second Prize: A GameCube Interactive Unit and a year's supply of GameCube games. Third Prize: A private Gold Class screening for 25 people at Village Cinemas Crown.
    What dates can I play?
    Get in by 8.30am each Sunday to register and prepare yourself for the big screen action!
    1 August: Registration and Round 1 - 1080: Avalanche
    15 August: Round 2 - Mario Kart Double Dash!!
    29 August: Round 3 - Super Smash Bros. Melee
    12 September: Round 4 - F-Zero GX
    26 September: Round 5 - Super Smash Bros. Melee
    10 October: Round 6 - Mario Kart Double Dash!!
    24 October: Superfinal The top 300 players will compete in the Superfinal on Sunday 24 October where a winner will be crowned!

    How much does it cost?
    You can purchase a single session ticket for $12, which entitles you entry into one of the above challenges. A guest can also come and watch you play for just $5 a session.

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  11. Why? when you can do it in the conference room by eltoyoboyo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Those projectors do not get used for slide sales demos ALL of the time you know. The response time is a little slow on the LCD screens, but lower the demo screen, set up the speakers and fire away.

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  12. already done in college towns, by colleges by LauraScudder · · Score: 3, Informative

    This was already done when I was in college a few years back at Harvey Mudd. Every year one dorm builds a movie screen in their courtyard for the super bowl and leaves it up for a week after for video games and movies. In between, people regularly use the screens in our large lecture hall for after hours gaming. It looks like a blast, but at Mudd at least there's no market for selling this service.

  13. Only 'landscape mode' video games will do.... by iamcf13 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why not do this 'right'....

    Host (for example) a arcade-version Street Fighter tournament at the movie theater and tap the game's A/V signals and route them through the theater's sound system and image projector to make the action appear on the movie screen. Charge a modest spectator fee to fill the seats (and likely offer a cut of it as prize money) and knock yourself out!

    Note that classic games like PAC-MAN and TEMPEST won't do as they are played in 'portrait' mode and not the 'landscape' mode that is the same as the orientation of the movie screen.

  14. Yeah by fredopalus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Even better:
    Video games on the IMax.

    Can you imagine playing Rogue Leader on a screen that size?!

    That would be one awesome dog fight!

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    1. Re:Yeah by Unxmaal · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Feh, we did that in 1999 at the Huntsville Space & Rocket Center IMAX theater.

      Sonic Adventure was truly nausea-inducing on the big screen, but Crazy Taxi was a blast. And then, there was multiplayer Goldeneye.

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    2. Re:Yeah by Jarnis · · Score: 2, Funny

      Rogue Leader on an IMAX screen?

      I find your lack of resolution disturbing...

  15. But what will the RIAA, MPAA, & Jack Valenti s by Proudrooster · · Score: 5, Funny

    Look for a new group ending in AA to form soon called the VGAA (Video Game Asssociation of America). I am sure they can put a stop to this illegal, immoral, and downright scandalous behavior. I bet video game sales are plummeting as you read this due to this activity.

    Playing video games on the big screen must violate some law, act, or at least allegedly infringe on some intellectual property right. I wonder if anyone will sneak in a mini cam corder then record a game and make it available on P2P. I wonder if people take modded X-Boxes to the movie theatre? Imagine playing Halo on a modded X-box using the big screen (public display), while having someone record a video of the game, then posting it to a P2P network with a hacked 802.11 WEP key from the adjacent grocery store. This might be a new record for the amount of laws broken with a single activity!

    Be warned! The black helicopters are probably assembling right now to go round these hoodlums up. I just wish the black helicopters would stop stealing my lawn furniture.

  16. Duping Is Not Flaming by Rie+Beam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why are all posts pointing out that this is a dupe getting modded flamebait?

  17. Been doing this for a while by evn · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have a friend who is a manager at a one of the Famous Players theaters here in town. Occasionally late at night there will be an "xbox night". Everyone brings in a controller and their xbox (well 4 people do). Add a few meters of Cat5 and a $19 SMC 4 port router and you've got a recipe for good times. Last weekend we had 16 player games of Halo running for hours. Crimson Skies wouldn't go more than 4 player (2 theaters * 2 players) which was a shame. The new zelda really comes into it's own on a huge screen though.

    Pretty much every theater these days has a digital projector for displaying those powerpoint-esque advertisements so it's just like plugging in at home: at least some good came out of those. It's worth buying the controller extension cables so you can sit 2 or 3 rows up rather than right against the back wall. Walkie-talkies cover the inter-theater communication because cellphones can be hit-and-miss.

    They sell beer at the concession now and there is a Pizza Hut right there for the food so I can see how it could make a good night out for the guys. All that said, I'm not sure this is something I'd be willing to pay for. 4 players * 4 theater is great because there is no down time. If I had to sit out every 4th round I think I'd rather just play at home on my puny 130cm TV and xbox live. Splitting $60 4 ways also seams a little pricey (though not much more than a regular movie). Not being able to eat and drink while playing would be a major disappointment too.

    "Revolutionary"? I don't think it will be any more revolutionary than when they were showing saturday morning cartoons on them a few years ago. A good novelty, but ultimately to expensive, inconvenient (can't just go-and-play) to compete with the home gathering.

  18. Hell Yes! by attam · · Score: 2, Interesting

    i most certainly believe this is going to become a popular way to game (in multiplayer situations for sure). i just graduated from college and i cant tell you how many hours my friends and i wasted playing HALO on the projector i bought. whenever it was time to make teams (i was in a fraternity so we always had 8 people ready to play) there was always a huge fight over who got to play on the "big screen" and who had to go in the other room and play on the tv. i definitely recommend that if any HALO fans get a chance to play on a projection screen, take it! its a totally different experience. incidentally, there were clubs at school that used to commandeer lecture halls and stage huge HALO tourneys on the projection screens. this was at MIT though, so i guess that might not be so common.

  19. Uhh, "could be"? by crashnbur · · Score: 2, Informative

    They've been doing this around here for a few years now. A local theatre manager who happened to like video games would allow co-workers to invite a couple of friends and play video games on the big screen once in a while on either Friday or Saturday nights. I don't remember what it started with, but they had been addicted to Halo for a while last I heard. I don't play Halo, so I've never bothered to check it out. :-P

  20. No way by pHatidic · · Score: 5, Funny
    Does anyone else think this could catch on to be successful, especially in college towns?

    No way. College students are way too busy studying to do things such as playing video games and drinking.

  21. Yes by TedCheshireAcad · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Does anyone else think this could catch on to be successful, especially in college towns?

    Yes, but only if there is beer provided. Pizza also a plus.

  22. Oh come on by sometwo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Video games have been done on a bigger "screen" than that: Brown students create massive Tetris game on building

    1. Re:Oh come on by belg4mit · · Score: 2, Informative

      How original
      http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_location/5 4.html

      Interactive even
      http://vadim.www.media.mit.edu/games/gbt.htm l

      See also
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  23. Sound by Zorilla · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm curious about this. There are a lot of accounts of theaters running gaming and such being posted on here. Of these, how many people are actually hooking the sound up to the theater system? As nice as it would be to see the game at theater size, it would be even cooler to hear it, provided it was hooked up in full surround, not just stereo, or upmixed 2 channel surround.

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    1. Re:Sound by evn · · Score: 3, Informative

      When we play (see my post above) we use the theater sound system. The projector to run the advertising accepts standard RCA type connections and is patched into the sound system for the theater - there's no real rummaging around to find empty jacks. I would assume this is to allow a PC to be used to run a slideshow or multimedia presentation when it's rented out for company meetings and such. The advertising is driven by a standard Wintel PC: keep in mind that we're interested in the advertising project (800x600 lcd project) not the projector that shows your the movies. This system is independent of the main projection system but is still tied into the theaters audio system.

      It's not 7.1 THX surround, but it's still loud enough to rumble the ice in your cup.

  24. My experience with big screen gaming by theluckyleper · · Score: 2, Informative

    I tried this with a few friends of mine once... we knew a T/A in the CS department who had keys to the AV equipment (enough abbreviations FY?). We went to the largest lecture hall and played 20 foot Mario Kart 64 with the RGB projector.

    It was fun... but damn, was it ever fuzzy. I don't think the N64 was meant to be blown up so large! Even on big screen TVs it gets a bit foggy-looking. Fish-doggy (Yoshi) was little more than a 6 foot blob.

    Next time we'll have to try some PC gaming I think, to see if the higher res images fare better.

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  25. Why I didn't renew my subscription. by DAldredge · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is why I didn't renew my /. subscription.

    http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/19/ 164257&tid=127&tid=211

  26. So how can I... by ticklemeozmo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would like convince my local theatre manager (I happen to know him) to do this, but he wants to know which steps are involved?

    Who do you have to get permission from?
    What if you do not charge (peeps will still want popcorn and soda)?
    What hoops must you go through to have fun?

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  27. Motion Sickness by SnowWolf2003 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A friend of mine recently bought a projector, and we started playing XBOX games on it. Most are great and it's made a huge difference to the gaming experience. The only problem is that for people who have a tendency to experience motion sickness when playing FPS style games (like Halo) the effects become amplified. I can play Halo on a normal tv and only feel a little ill after, but after just a minute on the big screen I cannot play any more.

  28. I should have mentioned... by EvilCabbage · · Score: 3, Insightful

    .. I hate replying to my own post.

    The cinema really makes a killing on selling the candy. $3 cokes and $4 packs of salted and sweet snacks go a long way to stuffing the coffers of your local cinema outlet. The movies themselves are almost just a vehicle to sell junk food.

    Film distributors are greedy, soul sapping bastards. If the candy bar didn't pull in an extra $10 or so per consumer here at my local cinema the place would be really scrounging for cash.

    1. Re:I should have mentioned... by EvilCabbage · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Am I a soul sapping bastard for denying them their revenue on tickters subsidized by candy bar food?

      No, but you're not a film distribution company, are you?

      I don't agree with the way things are, but if the cinema doesn't agree to the distributors terms, they don't get movies. If they don't get movies, they don't make _any_ money.

      It's similar bully tactics to the **AA, except it's been going on even longer and it's just taken for granted as part of doing business.

  29. New *AA group? by The+Monster · · Score: 2, Funny
    Look for a new group ending in AA to form soon called the VGAA (Video Game Asssociation of America).
    How about Game Manufacturers' Association of America (GMAA) so that we'll know that they're a bunch of trolls?
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  30. Big Screen Gaming in the University by foxalopex · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've actually done this before. Thanks to my affinity with an Anime club, we had access to University theater projection equipment. Car racing type games were breathtaking since the cars were pretty much life sized! The only games that didn't work too well were side scrolling space shooters where there were lots of objects to track on screen. They're difficult because it takes longer for your eyes to track the whole field of view on a big screen killing your reaction time. Aside from that it was a lot of fun. I think if theaters decide to do this, it will be loads of fun! :)

  31. Cleveland Indians + PSII + JumboTron 5/6/04 by Theologian · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Cleveland Indians allowed people during "College Night" to play on their newly replaced JumboTron (now the largest screen in North America) at Jacob's Field on their "College Night" on May 6, 2004.

    I don't have any photos of the event, except for a local radio station's gallery of pictures.

    http://www.wmms.com/jacor-common/globalphotos.html ?eventID=24801&eventsection=&pagecontent=
    It's kinda coincidental that they've also made the connection between college and big-screen gaming.

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  32. I wonder... by john_smith_45678 · · Score: 2, Funny

    if people will sneak camcorders into the theaters to record the games, then release them on the Net.

  33. Well, I have two rules dealing with this issue. by nastro · · Score: 5, Funny

    1. As long as this has nothing to do with Fred Savage, Super Mario Bros. 3, and the word "Wizard" (which, when you think about it, spawned, after several generational mutations, "Hackers")...Well, then I'm game.

    2. As per college kids...C'mon, Timothy...

    Here I quote after drunkedly RTFA...
    "Timothy said tournament entry fees are $60 for a team of four. There is a $3 charge for spectators to watch the games."

    Let it be said, and I feel safe generalising here, that any college kid with $63 will either spend it on: Ramen
    Beer
    Some Girl

    This idea reminds me of the movie theaters that opened up with the pretense of being 'high class', i.e. serving dinner and booze. Nice idea, but the average Joe Consumer can only watch from afar and wish that he/she could afford such niceties. So. Target patron: College kid? Nope. Maybe parents could foot the bill for their kids to do it. Some pay membership fees for their wee ones to join skate parks, why the hell not this, I guess. It's a goofy niche, s'what I'm sayin'.

    In conclusion, I'll get another beer.

  34. Market Study by ducomputergeek · · Score: 3, Interesting
    We did a market research study for a client in a college town that was an existing bar and was looking for a new gimic and though of purchasing the building next door and setting up a system of HD LCD TV's networked into divded areas. Fees to play would would be $5 per person during open times, to cover basic overhead expenses and then make the profit from selling concessions such as snacks, soda, and beer.


    Our conclusion was it could work with about a $50,000 investment in equipement and rennovations and could turn a tidy profit, however it was the fact that it was the X-box and we found that while gamers would pay to play on larger screens that many wouldn't because the ease of setting up a 4 room X-box match in the Dorms or existing frat houses, many of which had several new flat-panel TV's in every room (college/frats had just built 4 brand new houses at an average price of $2M a peice).

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  35. Atari Star Raiders by marko123 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Atari Home Computer version was projected on the roof of an observatory (planetarium?) in the very early 80's.

    (most of these details could be wrong from it being so long ago, but I saw a photo of it.)

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  36. Two words by Krunch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    LAN party

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