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Speech Recognition in Silicon

Ben Sullivan writes "NSF-funded researchers are working to develop a silicon-based approach to speech recognition. "The goal is to create a radically new and efficient silicon chip architecture that only does speech recognition, but does this 100 to 1,000 times more efficiently than a conventional computer." Good use of $1 million?"

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  1. Funny... by leonmergen · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Funny, I work on a speech recognition research project, and well, i have to say, think about all the possibilities... automa ted speech2text recording of meetings, on-the-fly subtitling of live tv shows, but it can get better : think about searching multimedia files in a google-kind of way based on audio, that automatically directs you to that part of the file where you want to be...

    If this really is true what they're saying, and knowing how much money is invested in speech recognition research on a yearl y basis, yeah, i would definately say that this is one million dollars of great investment...

    ... but then again, maybe they're just throwing around with numbers to make sure they get their money. :)

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    1. Re:Funny... by strictfoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      I work on product X and think of all the possibilities (list slightly feasible but most likely never going to happen features).

      If this is really true what they're saying then people should put tons more money into product X!

      But then again maybe I'm just talking up product X to make sure I get my money :)

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    2. Re:Funny... by loginx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I want to sing the general tone of a song I heard on the radio in a microphone and have google direct me to that album on froogle.

      THAT would be awesome!

    3. Re:Funny... by tubbtubb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My understanding of speech recognition is minimal, but from what I understand the meat of this chip would probably just be a floating point SIMD engine to do FFTs, and some comparison and control logic.

      I'm wondering if you could just do this with your average ATI or Nvidia 3D chip and an FPGA wrapper?

    4. Re:Funny... by syukton · · Score: 3, Interesting

      From what you describe, it isn't so much a speech recognition thing as it is a sound recognition thing; essentially, a way for a computer to logically distinguish between many millions of different sounds.

      How far away are we from having a machine that could identify all of the instruments in a piece of music by "listening" to the music? I say "listening" because there need not physically be a playback-and-listen, the playback could be mathematically modeled by the computer.

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    5. Re:Funny... by richy+freeway · · Score: 3, Interesting

      We have something like that in the UK called Shazam.

      Just dial a number on your mobile phone, hold it up to the speaker while the tune you want ID'd is playing and it'll SMS you back shortly with the track name and artist. You can then log onto the Shazam website, enter in your mobile number and you get a list of all the tracks you've searched for along with links to an Amazon search so you can purchase the track.

      Pretty good for ID'ing tracks when you're in a club and can't get to the DJ to hassle him. :P

    6. Re:Funny... by Christopher+Thomas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I work on product X and think of all the possibilities (list slightly feasible but most likely never going to happen features).

      If this is really true what they're saying then people should put tons more money into product X!


      Actually, use of speech recognition technology to index video clips for search engines _is_ both a very desirable technology, and something that can be done fairly easily (most professionally produced video, at least, takes great pains to have one speaker at a time and keep noise to a minimum). There's a fair bit of video content accessible via the web right now, and this will only increase (most new digital cameras can take video clips now - remember how quickly still pictures flooded the web when digicams first became available?).

      Speech recognition technology has trouble when it's trying to sort out a noisy environment or a degraded communications channel, and has trouble holding useful open-ended conversations (as opposed to task-driven), but it's very capable in most other contexts. After all, the field has been under study for decades.

      In summary, your mocking of the parent post is premature.

    7. Re:Funny... by TFGeditor · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, well, when you are an oudated nerd you have to get your kicks somewhere.

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  2. 1... million... DOLLARS!!! by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Good use of $1 million?

    Let me think for a moment... Hell yeah! If we had low power speech processors, the possibilities would be endless. For one, we'd finally have a Star Trek(TM) interface for our homes!

    "Computer, lights!"
    "Computer, make coffee!"
    "Computer, Earl Grey, hot!"

    As silly as it may sound, such an interface would be far more efficient than mashing buttons.

    In addition, blind people could be significantly helped by this. Many of them already use speech recognition and synthesis to assist in computer usage. Imagine if their computers could suddenly understand them a thousand times better? They could talk to their computers a bit more naturally, thus saving their vocal chords from undue stress.

    Other applications (off the top of my head) are:

    - Voice notes on embedded devices (store only text!)
    - Helpful Kiosks that can give you directions
    - A new use for natural language database queries (i.e. Ask the computer what last quarter's net sales were.)
    - Voice controlled robots ("You missed a corner, vacuum cleaner")
    - Data search by voice ("Find me a channel that plays Star Trek")

    Any other cool ideas out there?

    1. Re:1... million... DOLLARS!!! by savagedome · · Score: 2, Funny

      Any other cool ideas out there?

      Yes.

      Peter Gibbons : What would you do if you had a million dollars?
      Lawrence : I'll tell you what I'd do, man, two chicks at the same time, man.
      Peter Gibbons : That's it? If you had a million dollars, you'd do two chicks at the same time?
      Lawrence : Damn straight. I always wanted to do that, man. And I think if I had a million dollars I could hook that up, cause chicks dig a dude with money.
      Peter Gibbons : Well, not all chicks.
      Lawrence : Well the kind of chicks that'd double up on a dude like me do.
      Peter Gibbons : Good point.

    2. Re:1... million... DOLLARS!!! by theparanoidcynic · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Any other cool ideas out there?

      Universal language translators. Imagine headphones that let you understand any known language.

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    3. Re:1... million... DOLLARS!!! by randombit · · Score: 3, Insightful


      - Voice controlled robots ("You missed a corner, vacuum cleaner")
      - Data search by voice ("Find me a channel that plays Star Trek")


      Kinda jumping ahead of yourself, aren't you? There are two steps to an operation like these, speech to text, and understanding the text you get out. Speech recognition gives you the first part, but you still have to be able to pull apart the sentence and figure out what it means.

      Also, the article didn't say more accurate than software, it said more efficient. You know, uses less power and stuff like that? If the applications you mention (like search via voice) were possible/usable, you could run them today on an upper-end PC no problem.

    4. Re:1... million... DOLLARS!!! by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's not that hard. Have you ever seen those automatic coffee machines? i.e. Put a few quarters in, then punch a bunch of "options" buttons. A cup drops down, and fills with coffee, cream, sugar, and any other options offered by the machine.

      The same could be done with tea. Just keep a reservoir of hot water, a stack of tea bags, cubes of sugar, and refrigerated lemons. When you order tea, the machine would inject the bag into the hot water stream, then drop the sugar and lemon into the tea.

      Voila, Earl Grey, hot! ;-)

    5. Re:1... million... DOLLARS!!! by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ah hah! Found one!

    6. Re:1... million... DOLLARS!!! by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 3, Informative
      There are two steps to an operation like these, speech to text, and understanding the text you get out. Speech recognition gives you the first part, but you still have to be able to pull apart the sentence and figure out what it means.

      In fact, converting the speech to text and then trying to analyze the text without sound-level annotations might give bad results, as tonal or emotional content would be lost. You need both simultaneously to really understand what's being said.

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    7. Re:1... million... DOLLARS!!! by richieb · · Score: 2, Funny
      Any other cool ideas out there?

      Walk into someone's office: "Computer! Format C:"

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    8. Re:1... million... DOLLARS!!! by Sir+dies+alot · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually they are one in the same, it is possible to determine what something means using today's voice recog. (I've got a setup that controls my entertainment center and lights in my apartment through voice recog) However it is wildly inefficient and difficult to setup. The reason is the english language is just about the most illogical system on the planet, and computers only understand logic. Due to the limited scope of my setup, I only had to record about 20-40 words/phrases and reference them differently in a database. Then you speak, it gets each word and follows a tree like structure jumping from each word to the next until it gets to the end. Any word not understood is simply filtered out as useless. When it reachs the "leaf" in the tree it has a command which it sends out the preconfigured port. Not a beautiful system but it works fairly well. If they make the ability to recognize text much more efficient, that means all the processing power that was being used to simultaneously decode and translate speech can be used to understand the speech. This is an immediate boost in power and then it just takes some good algorithms to be made in order for these inventions to become a plausible reality. Also, the reference about using a high-end PC to do this is true if thats not all it is doing. If you use a mid-range PC solely for voice processing, it should work just as well. (mine is running using spare processing time on my Athlon 64 3400+ with 2GB RAM, but I would assume that you could use a slower system if you werent doing anything else on it.)

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    9. Re:1... million... DOLLARS!!! by centauri · · Score: 2, Funny

      But by removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, such a device would cause more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.

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    10. Re:1... million... DOLLARS!!! by renderhead · · Score: 2, Funny

      That is good thought! The thing software which is the simple problem where existing translation that it is developed applies algorithm to speech of real time very is healthy! Gorgeousness!

      P.S. I used Babelfish for translating this post.

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    11. Re:1... million... DOLLARS!!! by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 2, Insightful
      If you're going for adding things to your field of vision, why not overwrite the Japanese version of the sign with the text written in plain english?

      Well, for those of us who actually like seeing the thing which is being translated, covering everything up would make the experience a little less rich. Also, over time, if you always see the two things together, you might be able to recognize patterns (hey, that set of ideograms always means Tokyo!), so if your batteries go dead, you still have a chance of navigation.

      Top this off with the audio translation playing the sound back of the translated words of someone speaking to you

      I prefer subtitles for similar reasons as for the signs, plus there is the added issue of cognitive modality - it is harder for you to concentrate on an audio translation if you can hear the person speaking to you at the same time (brain has to filter out similar sensory information), whereas I find it fairly easy to follow subtitles for meaning even while using the audio from the person only as an emotional "channel" (brain can use complementary sensory info).

      The other stuff you mention (colloquialisms, vernacular, etc) I agree with, except that I actually like to see the Babelfish-like (straight) translations in some of those instances, perhaps with a background notation of the slang's translation, its probable meanings & maybe its origin (although I doubt you would look at all that stuff while in the middle of conversation :-).

  3. Text of article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Carnegie Mellon University's Rob A. Rutenbar is leading a national research team to develop a new, efficient silicon chip that may revolutionize the way humans communicate and have a significant impact on America's homeland security. Rutenbar, a professor of electrical and computer engineering at Carnegie Mellon, working jointly with researchers at the University of California at Berkeley received a $1 million grant from the National Science Foundation to move automatic speech recognition from software into hardware. ''I can ask my cell phone to 'Call Mom,''' says Rutenbar, ''but I can't dictate a detailed email complaint to my travel agent or navigate a complicated Internet database by voice alone.''

    From Carnegie Mellon University:

    Carnegie Mellon engineering researchers to create speech recognition in silicon

    Team to develop new silicon chip

    Carnegie Mellon University's Rob A. Rutenbar is leading a national research team to develop a new, efficient silicon chip that may revolutionize the way humans communicate and have a significant impact on America's homeland security.

    Rutenbar, a professor of electrical and computer engineering at Carnegie Mellon, working jointly with researchers at the University of California at Berkeley received a $1 million grant from the National Science Foundation to move automatic speech recognition from software into hardware.

    ''I can ask my cell phone to 'Call Mom,''' says Rutenbar, ''but I can't dictate a detailed email complaint to my travel agent or navigate a complicated Internet database by voice alone.''

    The problem is power--or rather, the lack of it. It takes a very powerful desktop computer to recognize arbitrary speech. ''But we can't put a PentiumTM in my cell phone, or in a soldier's helmet, or under a rock in a desert,'' explains Rutenbar, ''the batteries wouldn't last 10 minutes.''

    Thus, the goal is to create a radically new and efficient silicon chip architecture that only does speech recognition, but does this 100 to 1,000 times more efficiently than a conventional computer.

    The research team is uniquely poised to deliver on this ambitious project. Carnegie Mellon researchers pioneered much of today's successful speech recognition technology. This includes the influential 'Sphinx' project, the basis for many of today's commercial speech recognizers.

    ''We're still not even close to having a voice interface that will let you throw away your keyboard and mouse, but this current research could help us see speech as the primary modality on cell phones and PDAs,'' said Richard Stern, a professor in electrical and computer engineering and the team's senior speech recognition expert. ''To really throw away the keyboard, we have to go to silicon.'' But enhanced conversations between people and consumer products is not the main goal. ''Homeland security applications are the big reason we were chosen for this award,'' says Rutenbar. ''Imagine if an emergency responder could query a critical online database with voice alone, without returning to a vehicle, in a noisy and dangerous environment. The possibilities are endless.''

    Researchers plan to unveil speech-recognition chip architecture in two to three years.

  4. First Post by JohnHegarty · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can just see the anonymous cowards shouting first post at their pcs now

    1. Re:First Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      and their PCs talking back to them "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"

    2. Re:First Post by aurb · · Score: 2

      Or karma whores reading the articles out loud at their pc's.

    3. Re:First Post by System.out.println() · · Score: 2, Funny

      In Soviet Russia, the PC yells at you!

      Or was that redmond....

  5. Carnivore on telephones by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My friend and I were talking about this. In countries that are more totalitarian, it could be used to root out "dangerous people" www.geocities.com/James_Sager_PA

    1. Re:Carnivore on telephones by ChefInnocent · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hello? Have you heard of Echelon?

  6. accuracy by tubbtubb · · Score: 5, Insightful


    100 to 1000 times more efficient worth $1M? meh. maybe.
    100 to 1000 times more accurate worth $1M? definitely.

    1. Re:accuracy by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > 100 to 1000 times more efficient worth $1M? meh. maybe.
      > 100 to 1000 times more accurate worth $1M? definitely.

      Accuracy does not have to be a problem with modern speech to text systems, but the need to 'train' them to get that accuracy, and the need to talk to it in a somewhat distinctive way, make them far less efficient.

      I'd rather say that the time it takes to get used to a speech recognition system (and to get it used to you where appliable), together with the soemwhat heavy cpu requirements, are what currently stops use. To me that means that the first thign that is required is efficiency, the accuracy is already there.

      (I have been using speech to text for over a decade now, starting out with another hardware solution in the first half of the 90s (IBM's VoiceType Dictation, back then called Personal Dictation System if I'm not mistaken, and even that system already had an almost as good accuracy as I manage myself)

  7. Good use of $1 million? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Damned straight it is! In government terms, that's a pittance. In government-funded science terms, it's downright INFINITESIMAL. It isn't even couch change, it's more like the stale pretzel under the couch cushion.

    But, of course, cue the armchair blogging fanatics without a formal science education, waxing poetic about the infinite power and glory of x86 hardware running clever open source software. Maybe we could do it in perl!

    1. Re:Good use of $1 million? by Armchair+Dissident · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Every time a dollar value is placed on a piece of research, some idiot comes along and say "Hey! This could be spent providing clean drinking water, and food and shelter", as if only research that directly provides clean drinking water or food or shelter is worth funding. Quite frequently the idiot making this statement is in a perfect position to provide money to ensure that more people have access to these facilities, and just as frequently that idiot isn't doing so.

      I'm sure that when America and Russia were engaged in the space race there were people saying "Hey! This money could be better spent on disaster relief!". And where are we now? Only a few short decades later we have sattelites that tell us where hurricanes are going so that we can evacuate areas and people who would otherwise die surviveWe have a global reliable telecommunications satellites so that disaster relief agencies in third world countries can inform people of what supplies are required, and people who would otherwse die survive.

      Without the massive investment in jet airline technology that could otherwise have been spent "saving the starving", we would not be able to travel to disaster areas within hours of an incident. And so the list goes on.

      If you personally want to see more money invested in agencies that provide disaster relief, or reliable shelter or clean water then you only have to donate to the right charities, and encourage others to do the same. It doesn't take many people to donate out of their pockets to provide $1 million. You can start here.

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  8. Sarcasm? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Good use of $1 million?
    For something that would be worth hundreds of times that in the form of a finished product, I would hope so. The only dispute might be that the researchers' efforts would be better spent on other things.

  9. Mixed feelings on this one... by Oxy+the+moron · · Score: 2, Insightful

    On the one hand, it is obvious how much more efficient this would make our day-to-day tasks. Being able to "jot" notes with speech instead of writing, schedule tasks in seconds, the list goes on and on...

    This is certainly beneficial... but think about the impact on the economy! Imagine all the "Administrative Professionals" who could, almost instantly, be out of work. I for one would rather pay even $5,000 for a good piece of software to take all my notes than pay a secretary $28,000/year or so.

    Then again, when I posed this situation at my wife's office (she's a paralegal) one of the attorneys responded, "Until they come up with software that can find my lost keys and bring me coffee, the secretary's job is secure."

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    1. Re:Mixed feelings on this one... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Agreed. Secretaries are needed to do paper handling, take calls and filing too. A business that prides itself on professionalism and service would IMO not rely on short cuts like the voice mail maze. So they aren't just a personal refresment gopher. Any business should still need that sort of thing.

      So what if dictation is taken away from secretaries, they still need to check the grammar and arrangement as dictation is almost always free-form without the same structure as a good written letter.

  10. Save a few kilobytes... by tcopeland · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...and view the printable version.

  11. Natural Language Interpreter by MankyD · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm curious to see if their research will improve Natural Language Queries, as opposed to just improving speech recognition. There is an important difference between having to say: SELECT name FROM users WHERE id=12345 and saying: Pull up the name of employee number 12345.

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    1. Re:Natural Language Interpreter by Masker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Natural language processing and speech recognition are two entirely separate problem spaces.

      Natural language processing tasks involve parsing strings of tokens and mapping them to commands to be executed. So, from your example, "Pull up the name of employee number 12345", the natural language system must map "Pull up" to "SELECT", "the name" to "name", "of employee number 12345" to "FROM users where id = 12345". Really, it's largely a problem of context, and your example shows an excellent problem: the "of employee number 12345" to "FROM..." map requires the contextual information of where to pull this information from. Surely multiple tables of a database could have an "employee number" field in them. Do you want all of the tuples which matches, or just from a certain table? Now, in the context of looking up a bunch of other employees, maybe I know what table you've been hitting a lot, and can determine what you're asking, but without that context, I have no idea.

      In fact, everyday speech has a lot more ambiguity in it than could be handled without keeping large amounts of state, be it contextual or experiencial/situational. For example, if I overhear two people in a conversation, and the first thing I hear is: "Yeah, but he's been lying all though his campaign, and I for one don't support him," I have no idea which politcal candidate might be speaking of. However, if I saw that person wearing a shirt for a political campaign last week, then I have enough context to make a reasonable guess that he's talking about that person's opponent.

      Speech recognition is a "lower level" than that: it's about matching acoustic information into speech sounds and then using the speech sounds to determine the word that was said. This is a hugely complex task that has a number of unsolved problems (of which these are the 3 that I can think of off the top of my head):

      1) "speech sounds" are fuzzy categories, and are not canonical targets.
      2) salient "features" of phonemes are disputed, contradictory and large amounts of redundancy/conflicting info are built into the speech signal
      3) idiosyncratic speaker-to-speaker differences make the phoneme categories even fuzzier and can complicate the task even for the one speech recognition system that we know works: the human brain.

      At any rate, the problems that need to be solved for speech recognition are not the same problems in natural language processing. While there may be some cross over in pattern-matching, the specifics of the problem spaces make it unlikely that you will get much benefit for NLS (natural language systems) from just making the algorithms faster.

      Which, in fact, is my main criticism of this article: the algorithms that we have now are piss-poor, and making them faster doesn't intrinsically make them better. Unless there's been some huge advance in the field that I'm unaware of, you'd still have to train a SRS (speech recognition system) on your idiolect, by reading some pre-selected passages to it. This model has lots of problems, most specially that it's tailored to an individual. Imagine if you had to have each person that you spoke with read some canned paragraphs to you the first time you met so that you could interact....

      [sorry I don't have sources for all of this; I'm AFB, and I don't have time to dredge up info right now. But, apparently, I have time to write one long-ass entry...]

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    2. Re:Natural Language Interpreter by cft_128 · · Score: 2, Funny
      There is an important difference between having to say: SELECT name FROM users WHERE id=12345 and saying: Pull up the name of employee number 12345.

      Yeah, there is a difference, I find the first query much more natural. I think I need to get out more.

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  12. Only 1million? by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Thats impressive for just 1 million, working in defense and knowing our contactors. 1 million dollars is bearly enough to get them to tell you how much it would cost for them to do the initial research to tell you if they can actually build what you want.

    (I did not read the article as it is slashdotted so I am relying on the summary's statement of 1 million dollars.)

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  13. A measily $1 million? by Aggrazel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Imagine how much money could be saved if you could *perfect* speach recognition.

    Heck, the hospital I used to work at by itself spent over a million dollars a year on medical transcriptionists ...

    1. Re:A measily $1 million? by Aggrazel · · Score: 3, Funny

      And imagine how much embarassment could be saved alone by correcting idiotic mispellings of simple words like "speech".

  14. Interesting, but do we really need this? by hackronym0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    It is an interesting concept, but do we really need this?

    We already have voice recognition, this tech will just bring it to everything. You can talk to your keys, your toaster, your watch. But will they have anything interesting to say back?

    What would you do if you had 1 million dollars?

    You mean besides 2 chicks at the same time...

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  15. The difficulties of dialect... by L0neW0lf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I once did a lot of work with speech recognition software, having a former significant other who was disabled. I tested a number of programs, and found the biggest problem to be the wide variances in users' dialects. The programs all have to be trained initially to recognize a single users' voice. This means that a program trained for a Bostonian may not work for someone from Arkansas, Texas, or Louisiana. Also, the programs' effectiveness decreased over time if you did not use it regularly.

    I don't know how possible it will be to make a program that can recognize all English users. Will someone who speaks Oxford English be recognized as well as a surfer from California? I doubt it.

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  16. hardware accelerated by GMail+Troll · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "People who are serious about software should make their own hardware" - Alan Kay

    This seems like a situation where a hardware accelerated approach is pretty sensible. I'm guessing there is large amounts of signal processing involved in speech recognition. With a custom chip like this it probably helps greatly to offload some of that onto a dedicated chip in the same way as GPUs are used on graphics cards. The only problem I can see is that there might not be much market for it. GPUs have an obvious market (games), but there is less demand for speech processing. Star-Trek style interfaces are nice to dream of but for most common tasks a keyboard and mouse will probably give you a faster and more accurate interface.

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  17. I'll get excited when... by Darkon06 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I see some results. So far theres been quite a few attempts at speech recongnition. Generally they all fall short, they don't like accents, and often mis-interpret. I know because awhile back we looked at something for my grandfather, he can't keep his hand steady enough to write anymore... *shrug*

  18. Good use of $1 million? by Threni · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Depends. It's not as good as using it to prevent the deaths of thousands - possibly tens of thousands - of people by ensuring they have clean drinking water and shelter from the elements. But hey - you can't put a price on being able to speak to a computer rather than type when you're ordering a pizza.

  19. History.. by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 4, Interesting

    During 1994 upto 1998 I did marketign and technical support for IBM's Voicetype Dictation products..

    Initially, doing anythign beyond understanding a few words would take special hardware, but after a bit of 'training' highly acurate and fast speech to text was quite a possibility with a specially developed dsp.

    Then, the pentium class cpus came about, and a p90 could just do the whole thing without the dsp.

    So, now someone is developing a new dedicated piece of silicon for this.. lets see how long it takes for general purpose computers to catch up.

    The issue is not that this is not usefull, but that it either has to keep developing, or offer a somewhat longer lasting price/performance ratio or much better features for a logn time to come.

    1. Re:History.. by giblfiz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      An excilent point, However if one were to make something along the lines of a PDA or phone with voice recognition the dedicated hardware would stay useful for much longer because you not only need to wait for the CPUs to catch up, but they need to pull so far ahead that they can compete in power consumption as well. (Which may be entirely impossible)

      task specific silicon becomes very useful when you don't have as much space/power/heat-disipation as you want.

    2. Re:History.. by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      These chips wouldn't go into a computer, there are numerous non-computer devices that could use good, low power speech recognition.

      Will a general purpose CPU fit or operate in a phone that can be on for a week? I almost never shut off the phone and it still lasts a week, and I don't want to sacrifice that run time for speech recognition.

      Granted, ARM chips are getting more powerful but the power consumption is still a limiting factor for their designs.

  20. Better approach by Lord+Kano · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Using specialised DSPs makes more sense to me than burning up generic CPU cycles. There have been many examples over the years of how a specialized DSP is more efficient and effective for a narrow task than a regular CPU. Look at portable MP3 players. They use tiny specialized DSPs to decode the files in a manner that is much more efficient than using a regular CPU.

    We'll still need to do traditional development to interpret the data from the DSPs. We'll need to parse the output so that we can use natural commands to control devices.

    "Coffee maker, brew 10 cups, strong."
    "Bathroom lights, on."

    Without some manner of AI to interpret them, these phrases will be useless.

    LK

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  21. Yay! Boo! Uh... Oh bugger.... by MooseByte · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From the blog: ''Homeland security applications are the big reason we were chosen for this award,'' says Rutenbar. ''Imagine if an emergency responder could query a critical online database with voice alone, without returning to a vehicle, in a noisy and dangerous environment. The possibilities are endless.''

    Like some slight tweaking in order to deploy massive voiceprint-recognition silicon arrays for amazingly efficient automatic realtime conversation transcription and identity determination, attached to Echelon.

    So cool... so potentially evil... head begins to hurt... tinfoil hat burning....

  22. Pretty Ambitious, Harder than it sounds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Although $1million significantly can speed things up, this is a pretty ambitious undertaking.

    My Master's research was on implementing machine learning in hardware, specifically support vector machines.

    Now, they have much more money than I did, and probably this will be a collaboration involving many graduate students, but converting complex algorithms from software to hardware is no easy task.

    It is just easier to do things in software, that's why it has evolved. The modular layers of abstraction allow a Computer Scientist working in machine learning or speech recognition to not have to worry about how the underlying hardware works.

    Working in hardware, a lot these issues come face to face. Particularly since you want an architecture on a chip, whereas in a conventional desktop/server system there are resources such as lots of RAM, harddrive space, etc are available and their interconnections have been built and refined over decades.

    Throw in concerns about small form factor, low power consumption, quite fast a lot of unexpected hurles pop up.

    My master's research goal was to produce a data mining/machine learning machine, or at the very least a data mining/machine learning co-processor. In retrospect, that was a very ambitious goal that would require many years of work, probably in collaboration with other graduate students.

    What I ended up doing was just Support Vector Machines in digital hardware. Now granted, there is another aspect to my research that I'm not mentioning here, mainly that I didn't use normal floating point mathematical architectures, but a different innovative logarithmic based mathematical architecture. That in itself was a significant undertaking.

    In any case, this sounds like a great project, I just wonder how much they can do in their (in an academic sense) very small time frame of 2-3 years. Even though a lot of preliminary work has probably already been done just to apply for the grant.

    In any case, it is great to see something like this, something to keep in mind in case I ever go back for a Ph.D.

  23. You bet it's worth it by Tairnyn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Once this technology has matured and some more headway can be made in Natural Language Processing, (uncertainty for teh win) we'll be on the cusp of some really excellent improvements in human-computer interfaces. It's becoming more common to see 'intelligent' systems being built to mirror the architecture of the human nervous system. This will be a necessary step to forming a generally proficient AI system. The day a computer can readily recognize you're being sarcastic, it's time to be paranoid.

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  24. brains are and probably should be modular by deathcloset · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This sounds like a great idea. Sometimes a Hammer works better than a screwdriver at a certain task. Not all Jobs can be preformed as well by a single tool or method.

    After all, the human brain has different areas for processing different types of stimuli.

    In fact, some parts of our brain are so radically different they are almost considered brains of their own.

    like the cerebellem; it's often referred to as "the small brain". This controls motor coordination - and in humans allows us to do amazing things like flips, kung-fu, and cup-stacking.

    And forgive me for forgetting the exact names, but the brain has layers as well. the outmost layer being the cortex (where most of the higher-level mamillian processing takes place - correct me if I'm wrong, the frontal lobe is pretty much purely cortical tissue). as you delve deeper you get into the hippocampus and medulla whatever (sorry IANAN I am not a Neurologist) which is where emotion rules - and if I again remember correctly is sometimes referred to as the "reptilian" brain.

    Even the eyes themselves can almost be considered little 'brains' of thier own - considering the amount of pre-processing they do (maybe a co-processor would be more accurate).

    make

  25. The UN would probably use this heavily by ARRRLovin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    With the advent hardware speech recognition, hardware speech translation is just the next evolution. Imagine being able to go to any country in the world and have just an iPod size device and a bluetooth hearing aid as a translator.

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  26. Disgruntled Employees by Rufus88 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now, disgruntled ex-employees won't return to the office to "go postal", so to speak. They'll just run up and down the hallway yelling "File! Exit! No!".

  27. Re:To, two, too by j_cavera · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Speech recognition is a two-part process. The silicon is to speed up part one: word recognition. The first thing to do is to figure out that the person is saying:

    Computer, set timer for (to|too|two) (ours|hours).

    Step two changes that into: ... two hours.

    based on context. That's where the AI programmers get their turn at the problem.

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  28. Re:1... million... DOLLARS!!! No by soltarusprime · · Score: 2, Informative

    You are forgetting the coded phonetic context of a word and distillations for "known dialects". Besides dialects, English is bereft with words that sound the same yet mean different things or even sound differently (slightly) depending on the surrounding contectual words and whether it is a statement, question or exclamation (different intonations). Feel free to multiply that K figure by up to 1000 times.

  29. NSA: Imagine a beawulf cluster of these ... by peter303 · · Score: 3, Funny

    National Security Agency: "We did, and they are hooked to the national phone system."

  30. Live Chat & Search by LionKimbro · · Score: 2, Interesting

    With voice software, you can already speak in real-time, conference style. I think Skype supports 5 people.

    With speech-to-text, you could log all conversation to IRC.

    Then you could have search engines that search *all conversation within the last 5 minutes, world-wide.*

    Well, at least all conversation that was okay with being public.

    So you could say, "Show me all conversations that are going right now about Python, and immediately find the people talking about Python, wherever they were.

    One step towards the HiveMind.

  31. Re:To, two, too by CyberLord+Seven · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Exactly, and that's where the real problem lies. If people think it's going to be difficult to identify the same word spoken by people from different regions then they probably have not given much thought to the fact that many words with different meanings sound the same in English and also that there are phrases such as "fat-chance" and "slim-chance" that mean exactly the same thing.

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  32. NSF Funded? by jonathanhowell · · Score: 2, Funny

    NSF, to me, translates to "Non-Sufficient Funds" or a bounced check.

    I can tell you from personal experience that this method of "funding" only works for the short term.

    Jonathan

  33. Re:Beats doing it in software by TheSync · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So far, analog neuromorphic VLSI has hit a dead-end in terms of real applications. Also digital signal processing has been speeding up to the point where it can go almost as fast as a lot of the parallel analog models.

    The one exception is that the work on analog retina models lead to the development of the Foveon X3 technology, which is just packing R,G, and B CMOS sensors into a single vertical column on a chip. But again, the neuromorphic part of the retina model is not the X3 technology, the X3 technology is stacking CMOS sensors.

    Analog neuromorphic VLSI did have one big result, the electrical engineers managed to teach the biologists a lot about signal processing, and the cross-pollination of this knowledge has lead to discoveries such as ripple analysis in auditory cortex.

  34. Um..not exactly by Strange_Attractor · · Score: 2, Funny

    something just about but not completely unlike tea

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  35. speech recognition and deaf/hard-of-hearing by CrudPuppy · · Score: 4, Insightful


    making quantum leaps in speech recognition has tremendous potential for deaf and hard-of-hearing (I am the latter)

    Imagine being in a meeting (almost always a problem for hearing impaired people) and having real-time subtitles.

    $1 million is a TINY price considering upwards of 20% of the nation has some hearing loss and hearing aids cost on the order of $4000 a pair.

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  36. Good use? Sure. by AndyChrist · · Score: 2, Funny

    As it is, it's a tossup whether I prefer speaking with a machine or a customer service rep in India. Won't take much for a machine to surpass most of them in English speech recognition. (Alright, to be fair, there are some indians I've gotten on the phone who have been at LEAST as good as the typical US based rep. But that's a minority.) Anything to advance the technology.

  37. Eye use it! by stfvon007 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Eye use peach recon ingition proton now. Sea how wood it works? Eye love his sea check ignition pro gram. don't ewe tank hugh should met won?

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  38. A million is not alot in academia by obiquity · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am an assistant prof at a major research institution and $1,000,000 is not as much as you would imagine. Firstly most universities take ~ 50% of grants immediately as overhead. You're down to 500K. Second this is spread out over 4 - 5 years, now you're down to about 125 K a year. Third, if we have grants we profs are required to pay our own summer salaries. On average this could be 25K, so you're down to 100 k/ year. In sciece and engineering we are expected to pay our grad-students if we have grants. Yearly salary with additional overhead (in the US, Canada is a bit less) comes to almost 50K/year A post-doctoral researcher would be hard to find for less than 50K/year with overhead. So really it supports a grad student and a post-doc and maybe some equipment for four years. Compared to the resources of industry it sometimes seems kind of puny. But the freedom is worth it. Just some info, OBQT

  39. New architecture alone won't do it by slobber · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This should be about algorithms, not architecture. Anything they can do in silicon can and should be implemented and perfected in PC software first. I don't care if it takes PC 10 minutes to recognize 10 second sentence as long as it does it accurately. As soon as that happens, then by all means cut its power consumption and speed it up x1000 by doing it in silicone. If all they are doing is speeding up existing, relatively low accuracy algorithms, then their effort is of limited use.

    Too be honest, I doubt that putting a few clever algorithms together will ever achieve any respectable accuracy no matter how fast those algorithms are. Sure, it might accurately recognize words from limited vocabulary when spoken clearly and/or in simple sentences. If this is their goal, then it is quite achievable. It sounds to me though that they are aiming much higher as in "dictating a detailed email". I think that so many things have to happen from effective noise filtering to proper phonetic model representation to parsing to content-based correction. Latter step is especially problematic since it requires a huge knowledge database which takes humans years to accumulate. I am not saying that these difficulties are insurmountable, but simply that their goals are too ambitious for the current state of our technology and knowledge. I'd love to be proven wrong on that account though.

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  40. national security? by bob_jenkins · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why are they talking about querying online databases for 911 calls as the national security app? It's obvious the national security app is to translate every single phone call to text and store them (indexed) in a classified database. I've attempted to believe the US wouldn't do this because it's illegal, but I can't manage to suspend disbelief. The only way to avoid this is if phone calls are encrypted and the US doesn't have the keys.