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Music Downloading not Entirely to Blame

Outlyer writes "A recent article in The Economist discusses the proximate causes for the decline in music sales. Of some note is this quote in the article: "According to an internal study done by one of the majors, between two-thirds and three-quarters of the drop in sales in America had nothing to do with internet piracy. [...] Other explanations: rising physical CD piracy, shrinking retail space, competition from other media, and the quality of the music itself. But creativity doubtless plays an important part." The article discusses in some depth the short-term viewpoint of the majors and why that is likely to be the dominant problem, not the internet bogeyman."

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  1. fp by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I switched from buying new CDs to buying used ones. It saves money and puts dents in the RIAA statistics.

    1. Re:fp by creep · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Right, but it does nothing to help the artist. Even for musicians and bands who're on RIAA-represented labels (who receive next to nothing for album sales), new album purchases serve as an important popularity gauge. The *only* entity you're helping when you purchase used music is the store you're buying from. Might as well just download the music for what it's worth.

    2. Re:fp by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't listen to music anymore (I can say for about 1.5 years now.) On radio I only listen to talk-shows (good ones in Toronto area.)

      BTW. when I buy blank CDs I am forced to pay a tax on it to 'help the artists'. Shit, I don't even care about any artists anymore, why am I forced to help them?

    3. Re:fp by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I used to do this, but Used CDS are getting to be really really expensive. Like 10-12 Dollars. I don't quite get that at all. Anyone have some insite to why they are getting to be so much?

      Simple, supply and demand. In may cases, the only place you are going to find a particular album is in a used record store. (At least retail.) What was a second hand market is starting to evolve into a collector's market.

      It's like the surge in "upscale" thrift stores. It turns out there is a market for retro clothing that is apart from the market for inexpensive clothing.

      Heck, lobster used to be a low-cost offering for sea food. (There was once a prison riot in Maine over being served lobster.) Over time it grew into a luxury item.

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    4. Re:fp by Suburbanpride · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I buy used CD's, I buy albums direct from the band at concerts, and I buy new LP's direct from my favorite independant labels like Saddle Creek and Jade Tree I have bought about 20 albums in the past year, and I'm sure none of them show up on the RIAA sales records.

      oh yeah, I have also purchased a dozen or so random songs on iTMS. IIRC, legal digital downloads aren't counted are album sales, so they can bitch about how cd's don't sell, but millions of albums a week are selling on iTMS.

      Its time for the record companies to stop fighting the future and adopt a new business model.

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    5. Re:fp by superpulpsicle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ever since I started buying music on iTunes, I have yet to buy an entire album. What does that suggest? There are too many junky tracks on every CD. There is no reason to make consumers pay $12 for CD, when I can download the track I want for $0.99.

      The sad part is the consumers are being blamed, when the record company execs steal the most. They don't need a promotion everytime an artist successfully go mainstream. If anything they should be fired for the lack of promotion of new artists. So many good artists out there are invisible under the radar unless you sample on iTunes or something.

    6. Re:fp by grub · · Score: 2, Informative


      Look at the bright side, the Canadian courts have rules that because you're forced to pay the starving artists, you also have the right to download music. Take advantage of it, there are a lot of neat bands out there.

      Personally, as far as pay per tune goes, I've been using emusic.com. It's quite reasonable and there are some good bands I've found on it.

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    7. Re:fp by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Ever since I started buying music on iTunes, I have yet to buy an entire album. What does that suggest? There are too many junky tracks on every CD. There is no reason to make consumers pay $12 for CD, when I can download the track I want for $0.99

      It could also suggest that you no longer are interested in stuff that you don't like right away. Looking back at all my CDs, I find that it is very common for my favorite tracks to be ones that I initially did not think much of. They grew on my after many listens, as I came to appreciate things I hadn't noticed on the first listen.

    8. Re:fp by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 3, Interesting
      "In Canada, we pay taxes on blank tapes and CDs, and now minidiscs and MP3 players. In exchange, we can make personal copies onto these media. However, AFAIK, it does not cover downloads. So your $35 tax was to allow you to copy music from your CD's and put them on your iPod, or even borrow somebody else's CD and do the same, or take one out of the library, but NOT download them from the internet."

      While the levy paid on music players may or may not make downloading legal, that does not change the fact that downloading music from P2P is 100% legal in Canada. If you are confused about your rights, please see the CBC's music download FAQ.

    9. Re:fp by PriceIke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's very true with me. I will buy a CD for one or two songs, then over the course of listening to it, I will grow to love other tracks on the CD that I didn't pay much attention to at first.

      That's why when I hear something new that I like, I will download a few tracks by the artist, and if I like him/her, I will buy their CD. I will first look at my used store for it though. I'd happily buy it new from Streetside if the RIAA weren't being such assholes about suing people who share music. If the RIAA would just leave file sharers alone they'd see their sales increase rather than decrease.

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    10. Re:fp by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Informative
      " becuse the new ones are $18-$20."

      Geez...where do you people live?? New CD's (unless the special sacd or limited editions etc)...are in the $12-$15 range. I live in New Orleans...

      I don't think I've ever seen a new single CD for as much as ya'll are talking about...

      That being said...how about finding and promoting bands that can actually play their instruments well...sing without electronic tone control....can move around on stage while still really performing, and not lip synching...

      And most of all...not letting physical appearance be the deciding factor. Often..people with lots of talent aren't the best looking in the world. Hell, back in the day..that's why many of those guys got into bands...they were so ugly, that if they weren't musicians...they'd have NEVER gotten laid...

      That might help the sagging sales of the music industry..get some real talent out there.

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    11. Re:fp by sconeu · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Its time for the record companies to stop fighting the future and adopt a new business model

      Is it time for the traditional Heinlein "Life Line" quote?
      There has grown up in the minds of certain groups in this country the notion that because a man or a corporation has made a profit out of the public for a number of years , the government and the courts are charged with the duty of guaranteeing such profit in the future, even in the face of changing circumstances and contrary public interest. This strange doctrine is not supported by statute nor common law. Neither individuals nor corporations have any right to come into court and ask that the clock of history be stopped ,or turned back, for their private benefit.

      --The Judge in Life Line

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    12. Re:fp by tacocat · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No, music is pretty much for shit these days. My kids are entering their teen years and have found that they really like music. But the irony is the type of music that they really like.

      1960-1980 Rock. Any current bands (eg: Blink 182) they only like a couple of songs and those preferences quickly fad away.

      But they both keep coming back and listening to the older music that's on the Classic Rock music stations.

      Current music sucks. It's an excellent example of monitization of art. That is to say, they practice of Art has been so heavily influenced by the monitary potential of art that all art is viewed not on it's artistic content, but on it's monitary potential. This started with the manufactured Boy Bands like Back Street Boys and N'SYNC. Even SouthPark figured this one out years ago.

      Take some star like Britney Spears. Her first three songs showed some style and some actual singing talent. Now about the only thing that helps her revenue stream are her boobs. Her singing is much lower quality and poorer content than it ever was, second only to her ever decreasing investment on clothing.

      I've been hearing about the RIAA bitching for decades and everyone has consistently replies, "But your music sucks so bad, why should be pay money for it?"

      Now the interesting thing will be if this will be applied to the MPAA and the problems that they have with movies. After all, re-releasing Apocolypse Now and The Godfather are a sure sign that they can't do anything right anymore. Not all movies suck, but the percentage of good movies has dropped well below what it used to be.

    13. Re:fp by Malk-a-mite · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Sounds like garbage, but isn't (so it seems). Google search shows it as part of local legend.

      http://hamptonroads.atevo.com/guides/focus/archi ve /item/0,3721,3487,00.html
      "Maine lobster, which is also caught off the coasts of Massachusetts and Canada's Atlantic provinces, is perhaps the most famous and sought-after seafood dish in the world. But if the Pilgrims were to visit New England today, they would be perplexed with the esteem in which the lobster is held. The colonists regarded the meat of the lobster as fit only for pig food and fertilizer, and, in fact, prison riots were started when prisoners couldn't take yet another lobster dinner!"

    14. Re:fp by Sleepy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The *only* entity you're helping when you purchase used music is the store you're buying from. Might as well just download the music for what it's worth.

      I would disagree. This was how it was for me a few years ago anyways.. I wasnt out to "collect" as many CD's as I can... my music tastes would change, and over the time I'd trade in less listened to CD's for something new.

      Yes, the artist would "sell more" if everyone only bought new, but then I would have offset my used-cd purchases by buying fewer. Fewer people buying used CD's helps deflate the price you would get trading in music, making the whole thing less attractive.

      Gray markets do have a positive impact on sales - it's just not as obvious an impact.

    15. Re:fp by shotfeel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's true.

      Maybe I'm missing it, but it seems like more and more albums are just a collection of random songs -not a group of songs that were made to go together.

      OTOH, I wonder how many here are old enough to remember buying music before the LP? The music industry seems to have forgotten that they used to sell just singles in the form of the '45. Yes, it had a "B" side, but everyone understood you were basically buying singles. Now the music industry in a tizzy because people only want to buy singles and they couldn't possibly survive if people only bought singles.

      Just wait, in another 10 years the album will be back in style.

    16. Re:fp by BobSutan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think alot of it is the perception of value. If someone is considering buying a new CD or a DVD, and both cost about the same, the usual sale goes to the DVD as it's perceived to be a better value. After all, a movie costs close to $100M for a blockbuster these days. A CD doens't cost nearly as much to make, hence the ever increasing sales of DVDs. The only was to increase the sales of CDs in this sort of competition is to lower the price. Like the article eluded to, some of the lost CD sales are directly attributed to the competition between CDs and DVDs. Like the saying goes, "Perception becomes reality unless challenged by the truth".

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      "On a scale from 1 to 10, people are stupid"
    17. Re:fp by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 3, Interesting
      "I don't listen to music anymore (I can say for about 1.5 years now.) On radio I only listen to talk-shows (good ones in Toronto area.) BTW. when I buy blank CDs I am forced to pay a tax on it to 'help the artists'. Shit, I don't even care about any artists anymore, why am I forced to help them?"

      "Why I am forced to pay taxes into healthcare even though I don't get sick very often?"

      "Why do people have to pay taxes into the public school system, even if they send their children to private school?"

      Because that is the way things are spun in this country. Social responsibility and social subsidising are facts of the way the country has chosen to run itself. It's a facet of the way Canada works and it has its advantages and disadvantages. It's not perfect, but it's a lot better with what many other nations put up with.

    18. Re:fp by cens0r · · Score: 2, Informative

      read the history of maine lobster.

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      Jack Valenti and Orrin Hatch will be first up against the wall when the revolution comes.
    19. Re:fp by Solarbeat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Could it be that all the crappy music from that era has already been filtered away by time, so these stations only play the really good songs that have staying power?

    20. Re:fp by radish · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My kids are entering their teen years and have found that they really like music.

      Now there's a surprise :)

      No, music is pretty much for shit these days.


      And this is different from when my parents told me the same thing 15 years ago how? Adults never like the popular stuff of the time, but then they're not the target market.

      I don't like much "pop" these days either, but then to be fair I never did. But it's a huge mistake to infer from this that there's no good music being made right now. There's loads. Music is a huge part of my life and there's plenty of good stuff around...you just have to look beyond your local "all hits, all the time" radio station.

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    21. Re:fp by roman_mir · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, I realize this is the way things are done in this country, however I don't see music as a necessity of life, do you? When someone can't afford a surgery, they die, well I guess the society somehow figures it's better to put the money to help these bastards, but when someone can't make a living by running a business that is not essential to anyone, the society decides to do the same thing....
      Are you telling me that this makes any sort of sense? If it does, I am off to my accountant, I am going to register a few corporations as a musician, then I am going to produce some crap I will call music (noone has to like it, or buy it even,) and then I will be waiting for my check from the government, who is collecting those taxes for me.

      Now how does that sound?

    22. Re:fp by Auraveda · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Also, most of the second hand CD stores I've been in are small, locally owned shops. You're supporting a local business by buying from them.

    23. Re:fp by falcon9x · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Look at your property tax bill (in Ontario) about a third of your taxes go towards the school board. Even if you don't have kids in school or whatnot.
      This happens in the US also. I would like to say that I went through the public school system and am currently in my third year at a major uuniversity. I must also say that the school system is not without its faults.

      But let me say this: You're taxes are an investment in the future of America (or Canada in your case). You never know when the doctor who performs your surgery is a graduate of the public school system, if the person who takes care of your finances is a graduate of the public school system, or if the person who defends you in court of law is a graduate of the public school system. In any of those cases, I would want that person to have had the best education possible. That's why I don't, and will not mind paying taxes for a public school system.
    24. Re:fp by Dirtside · · Score: 4, Informative
      You get a copy without compensating the copyright holder.
      This sentence is misleading because it assumes that a new copy is created when you buy the used CD, for which the copyright holder is not separately compensated. This is not necessarily true. As far as I know, the overwhelming majority of people who sell old CDs do not keep copies of those CDs, either burn dupes or rips.

      If someone buys a copy of a CD from a copyright holder, and then sells that CD to some third party without making a copy of it, the copyright holder has received everything he is entitled to under the law. Neither the buyer nor the third party need permission from the copyright holder in order to transact their business; this is known as the Right of First Sale.

      If a copy has been made, then the buyer has committed copyright infringement, but the third party has not, whereas in your example of downloading it from Kazaa, both parties have committed copyright infringement.

      The copy is an "unauthorized distribution" (i.e., against the will of the copyright holder).
      Those terms are not equivalent. "Unauthorized distribution" implies (in cases where it does not expressly mean) "distribution of a copy without the legal right to do so." Since you are not creating a new copy and distributing it, but are merely distributing the same copy that was already purchased from the copyright holder, it is entirely legal.

      Whether it's against the will of the copyright holder is irrelevant, so long as it's not against the law.

      And, as others have noted, you're also supporting a business by buying used, especially since most used music stores are independently owned. And you're also encouraging the primary market, since people are more likely to buy goods like CDs if they know that they can resell the good later once they've gotten some use out of it.

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    25. Re:fp by roman_mir · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My point is that the levy is in line with the precedents in Canada and I understand why it is there, and how it makes sense within that framework of thinking. - I am not sure that it does make sense though. If it does, then all of those failing businesses in the country should be subsidized by the citizens of the country and I do not see that happenning. When a restaurant is openned and it goes bankrupt, I don't see the canadian government stepping in and sharing some money with that business, after all, the recipes used to prepare the food served in that place can surely be shared over the web. What's left is just buying some groceries and spending an hour in the kitchen. So no, giving money to a losing business does not make any sense even from canadian perspective. In health care for example, the money is there not to help the doctors, but to help the patients.

      And as long as I am paying for it, I might as well reap the legal benefits. - and I am not going to do that because again, I don't listen to music anymore. Too bad for me, I guess, I see no benefit from these subsidies whatsoever ever in any shape or form.

      As to your plan of creating a 'fake' music corporation, that's abuse of the system and it doesn't count as an example. - oh, the harsh words - 'abuse'. I feel abused by the system already, this just maybe my way of getting back at the system and taking away the money they take away from me. Sure sure, two wrongs don't a right make ;/ but as long as they treat me as a child or a criminal, I will treat them with the same attitude and no respect.

    26. Re:fp by Idarubicin · · Score: 4, Insightful
      You get a copy without compensating the copyright holder.

      You're not actually serious, are you?

      Yes, I did get a copy without directly compensating the copyright holder. Someone else no longer has the copy for which they already paid the copyright holder.

      There originally existed one copy, for which royalties were duly paid. There still remains one and only one copy. Unauthorized file sharing, on the other hand, can produce an unlimited number of copies without payment of royalties.

      How can you equate the two? And did you study economics at an RIAA-sponsored institution?

      Does Ford deserve a royalty payment if someone sells a used car? No, because the original owner no longer has the use of the property. Sheesh.

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      ~Idarubicin
    27. Re:fp by Moofie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "percentage of good movies has dropped well below what it used to be"

      Care to substantiate this?

      You don't remember all the crappy movies that were released in the '70s, because they were crappy and forgettable.

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    28. Re:fp by Moofie · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bet I've listened to Wagner more recently than you have, therefore I am the superior music listener, and have a demonstrably larger penis.

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    29. Re:fp by thogard · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There are technical reasons why the new music is shit. Take out your old AC/DC or Rush album and plop it in the CD player and compare its volume level to a new CD. You will find that the older CDs are at a much lower volume level and the new or re-mastered CDs are all at a much higher volume level however when they do that, it ends up killing the emotion of the music. Examples of this are Thunderstruck from AC/CD or Rise from Herb Albert. Both are quiet by modern standards but have a wide range of energy that simply doesn't exist on modern albums outside of rap. Rap gets around this auditory abuse by the mixers because the peak energy tends to be spoken (which can be clipped) and tends to be in beats so the auto clip stuff can't do its job.

      Another example of this audio abuse comes from what I call the Abba sound. (Hey were are discussing teenage music here). The female vocals are remixed in a very interesting way that gives them far more energy. The voice is sampled, then accelerated, boosted then slowed down. This trick gives a bright clear sound to the vocals that seems to increase the energy however thanks to Nyquist theory and digital samplers thinking 44 khz is the max you would ever need, this sort of thing doesn't sound right out of most digital mixers these days since the resulting sound has already had its high frequency chopped and the auto level adjusters just ignore the harmonic peaks and they are just clipped. While it kills off all the energy of the music, it also kills off most of the new bands that would appeal to the largest (only?) demographic of singles buyers which happens to be teenage girls.

  2. When The Economist slams a huge industry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, at least we can be reasonably sure that the RIAA higher-ups will read it. Not that they'll listen, but they'll at least read it.

    1. Re:When The Economist slams a huge industry... by garcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Of course they won't listen to it. It says that they are the cause for most of their ills. They are the ones that are recruiting shitty music, pushing it to shitty/controlled radio, not embracing the Internet, wasting time on lawsuits instead of their original purpose, and not buying up the independents that they used to get some of the best fringe talent from.

      The Economist just blew away their views on how their little corner of the world works.

      I have a feeling that the music industry will claim that this article is nothing more than a conglomoration of Internet forum non-sense and that their business-model is acceptable and will continue. Afterall, they can claim whatever they want, the media/controlled-radio will distribute it, and the public is stupid.

    2. Re:When The Economist slams a huge industry... by lifeblender · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They will listen, but they will still respond as you suggest. The article will be ignored, and when record labels are asked for comment they will downplay its accuracy and relevance.

      However, the labels will take notice. Now the people in the recording industry who have wanted to alter the course of industry have something big to point to. They will slowly attract the attention of the executives to alternatives, and eventually, the recording industry will be prepared to handle the current state of technology and science.

      Right before the world changes out from under them again.

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  3. Not in Korea by Daengbo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Where I live, everybody downloads, the internet service advertize showow much faster you'll get your music, and the teens don't even think of buying music.

    Retailers are in bad shape in S. Korea.

    1. Re:Not in Korea by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 5, Funny
      When I was a boy, (back when computers lacked hard drives and we had to write our own games in BASIC) we had this music swapping system called casette tape. If that wasn't enough, rogue elements of the music industry were simply broadcasting these songs over the radio for free.

      Heck, I remember that some of the stuff was so good that I actually went to the music store to buy the album. (Which was subsequently copied and distributed to friends...)

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    2. Re:Not in Korea by Zorilla · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm actually stationed overseas in Japan - where CDs regularly go for 2000-3000 yen. 2 CD packs go for up to about 4500 yen. No thanks.

      Even in the base exchange, their choice of music makes Wal-Mart look like iTunes. I'm going to go nuts if I hear Usher's "yeah" or one of Metallica's white trash anthems again.

      This definitely puts me far outside the market in offline music purchasing.

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    3. Re:Not in Korea by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I'm pretty sure that if you talked to someone from the 1860's, and tried to explain to them that there was an industry that was based on people paying for a music recording they would laugh at you.

      The whole concept of copyrighting a recording is very recent (1910's or so.) Before then, you would copyright the sheet music, which was published like any other printed work. The whole idea of controlling the playback of music was originally laughed out of court. (The early litigation centered around the mechanical playback of music by player pianos.) What came out of those legal cases was the concept that merely transposing the musical notation into another form (in this case from sheet music to the punch cards for the piano) was considered copyright infringement.

      Not because you copied the music, per se. Because you were selling a copy of the music. After a bit of wrangling congress passed laws dealing with "mechanical recordings" which paved the way later for wave-form playback devices that captured sound directly and played it back.

      Then came the radio.

      With radio (and recorded playback at public events), we had a dilemma. Radio wasn't technically "selling" a recording of the music. They were selling a performance of the music. After a lot of wrangling the music industry and broadcasters came up with a compromise: compulsery licensing. You purchase a license to play back music in public. The proceeds from the license are redistributed back to the artists and publishers. (The RIAA doesn't make a dime off of Radio, that's ASCAP's bailywick.)

      With the Internet we have elements of both case law. On one hand we are publishing "machine recordings" of music. On the other, the mechanism to transfer the files is essentially that of a radio broadcaster.

      In the end, we should have to pay for the recording. But do we make the check out to the RIAA (ala record sales) or to ASCAP (ala performance licenses). The RIAA, of course, is hoping that the money comes back to them. In the end though, it will probably be an ASCAP type of organization that deals with distributing music over the internet.

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    4. Re:Not in Korea by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 2, Insightful
      As for me, I'm an old fart at 30 when it comes to my musical tastes. I REALLY would like to give record stores my business. But even going to a Tower records, with thousands of square feet of inventory, I can't find the albums I'm looking for.

      Even if I can find the artist I'm looking for, all they have is their "Greatest Hits" album. Now, If I'm looking for a (c)Rap album, I can find 8 different mixes of the same album. But trying to find Devo, The Beloved, or even The Beatles and the Doors is a futile effort.

      (He writes with a track from Abba that was downloaded off of iTunes playing in the background. Wait, now it's Berlin...)

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      "Learning is not compulsory... neither is survival."
      --Dr.W.Edwards Deming
    5. Re:Not in Korea by dgatwood · · Score: 2, Interesting
      For the most part, I agree with your post, but I have a couple of nits. First, if you talked to someone from the 1860s and told them it would be possible to record music in the future, they would be very confused. The first wax cylinder recordings weren't until about 1877. :-)

      Second, your terminology is wrong. Compulsory licensing is not licensing a performance. It is licensing the rights to make your -own- recording of a musical composition that has already been recorded and published by someone else. It is more properly called compulsory mechanical licensing.

      Playing a performance of a piece does not require licensing EXCEPT if the piece itself is protected under copyright, in which case you must pay a small amount per play to ASCAP, BMI, SESAC, or whatever rights organization controls the copyright. The artists don't get a penny from radio stations unless they are also the composer. The composer and publisher, however, do, through the organizations mentioned.

      There is nothing compulsory in the law about your right to play a performance of a copyrighted work (as opposed to a copyrighted performance of a public domain work). The composer, by joining ASCAP/BMI/* agrees to allow you to do so in exchange for publicity and a small fee.

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  4. Well... by MP3Chuck · · Score: 5, Funny

    May I be the first to say ... "No shit!"

  5. I don't buy music by fawlty154 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't buy music because it all sounds packaged and the same to me. I'll buy a CD when something good ocmes out. I'm sick of the labels blaming the internet for their crappy products not doing well.

    1. Re:I don't buy music by Pope · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe you should expand your horizons beyond the top 40 then. There's plenty of good music out there, almost always has been. You just have to do the legwork to find the stuff that'll keep you interested.

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    2. Re:I don't buy music by Wordsmith · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And to that end I'd suggest your local college radio and/or NPR station as possible sources, depending on your tastes.

      If they don't scratch your particular itch, trying some of the small-time indyish stations that have webstreams - you can find music of just about any genre being streamed over the net, and a small or academic radio operation is more likely to weight musicianship in its playlist building than it is to weight billboard chart position.

  6. What a shock?! by _PimpDaddy7_ · · Score: 2, Funny

    According to an internal study done by one of the majors, between two-thirds and three-quarters of the drop in sales in America had nothing to do with internet piracy.

    OMG, like I am..sooo SHOCKED to hear that!

    These people will never "get it"....

    Did they ever think their current business process and ATTITUDE towards its customers could be the problem????

  7. Well obviously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    Other explanations: ...and the quality of the music itself.

    Obviously "Tainted Love" was the pinnacle of musical creativity in the world, and CD sales were bound to decline.

    "Tainted Love ... oh, oh, oh, don't touch me please"

  8. Finally by Nomeko · · Score: 2, Informative

    Have we been waiting for this a long time?

    Anyways, I buy a lot of my music off the street, literaly. A lot of bands down here in BsAs are going the way around the musicindustry and publish their own records, playing on the streets for publicity..

    They tricked me, anyways..

  9. Reason why I don't buy cds by loconet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The reason I usually don't buy CDs is because 90% of the mainstream music sold out there is simply SHIT.

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    1. Re:Reason why I don't buy cds by jfengel · · Score: 2, Informative

      Somehow that doesn't seem like a problem. Hundreds of CDs are released a year. If 90% are shit, that means there are dozens available which might be worth listening to.

      The world is full of people, and it doesn't seem wrong to have less than 10% of music aimed at me.

    2. Re:Reason why I don't buy cds by jxyama · · Score: 2, Insightful
      >The reason I usually don't buy CDs is because 90% of the mainstream music sold out there is simply SHIT.

      i never bought this argument. i'm pretty sure in the 90s, we blasted the 90s music as being crappy compared to the 80s. and in the 80s, we blasted the 80s music as being crappy compared to the 70s. and so on.

      you may think music now is crappy compared to what you grew up with. what makes this generation so special that the entire consumer base thinks the music is crappy at the same time?

    3. Re:Reason why I don't buy cds by eric_brissette · · Score: 3, Funny

      80s music is crappy compared to everything. Even compared to poop itself.

    4. Re:Reason why I don't buy cds by Fnkmaster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think there is great music made in every era. The issue is whether the mainstream, top 40, popular music, stuff you'd hear on mainstream FM stations, in any given era is stuff that has lasting appeal and merit of some sort, or is truly bad, meritless stuff.

      For example, I think the early 90s were a great era for mainstream music, with artists from Dre and Snoop Dogg to Nirvana that produced not only commercial success but also lasting music with merit (whether or not it's all to your tastes). The late 90s produced boy bands like Backstreet Boys, which will be pretty much crappy music in any era. The 80s were a bit of a mixed bag, but I think a lot of it sucked, not comparable to the stuff from the 60s and 70s at all, even with a few gems in the rough.

      Today's mainstream music seems to be, more than ever, produced for younger teens. I fail to see how anybody past the age of 16 could think a lot of the current top 40 stuff is even decent music (let's forget about whether it's good, let alone great). Maybe my aesthetic tastes are just stuck where they were 8 or 10 years ago, I'm not sure. But I'd like to think if I were 16 or 17 now (I'm 25), I'd hate a lot of this crap too.

  10. Make a difference? by Deflagro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Question is, will this really make any difference at all? Not likely... these companies have their minds made up that the internet(s) is(are) the cause. It's interesting that someone had the balls to write it up especially in an economical media outlet but it won't change anything.
    Not a real shocker but nice to be higher profile.

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  11. Brick and mortar stores don't serve me by nyekulturniy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am not a big music buyer, mostly because I can't get the music I like to hear (classical, folk and Celtic) at local stores such as Wal-mart, and the local folkie store is off my beaten path and has little parking. I would use a service such as this eagerly. And yet, everyone seems to focus on the indie rock scene and the big rock/pop/hiphop acts, and don't think that online distribution might mean the flowering of genres with smaller fans, such as folk, bluegrass, opera, choral, or whatever!

    Frankly, the best way for a business to thrive is not to have a radical change of the business model. Instead, incremental changes and continual improvement (hitting singles instead of homers) will get the job done. One incremental change can be to make sure that downloadable music isn't just for young listerners.

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    Nyekulturniy... Proudly confusing readers and editors since 1981!
  12. How come.. by armer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    nobody points to the real reason music sales are dropping? Today's music isn't based on music, but on image and one hit wonders... Just look at Hoobaskank, one formulated bubble gum song, and they are headling big shows... what have they done since??? And don't forget about the eye candy... Jessica Simpson, Brittany Spears, couldn't sing their way out of wet paper bag, but with the volume down...

    1. Re:How come.. by thebatlab · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hmm. I'd agree on the Jessica Simpson and Britney Spears but Hoobastank? What's the problem with them.

      They a good CD a couple years back with some strong tracks on it and it was one of those CDs that I could listen to all the way through and not want to change the song.

      The same with their new release. Sure, that song is a bit cheesy but it's got a catchy beat to it. Have you listened to the rest of the album? It's again, very solid. Every song almost builds on another telling a story throughout the entire album.

      And as for what they've done since...um, that CD just came out recently. You want them to pound another one off within 6 months? I think you expect a bit too much there.

    2. Re:How come.. by GMFTatsujin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Then you get bands like Chumbawamba who, after decades of singing subversive anti-corporate rhetoric, manage to prove their point most eloquently by writing a single album designed to be a one-hit wonder -- as a JOKE.

      Now it's tough to find their good old albums because the stores only stock the sucky one-hit wonder album. Seems that the older stuff just doesn't fit the band's image anymore.

      Irony is lost in the free market.

  13. But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    According to an internal study done by one of the majors, between two-thirds and three-quarters of the drop in sales in America had nothing to do with internet piracy.

    So, one-quarter to one-third of the sales drop is due to internet piracy? I can see why companies might be worried about this. (And everyone who votes me down because I won't subscribe to their "waaa waaa waaa! I want my music for free!" is a wanker.)

    1. Re:But... by jimicus · · Score: 2, Informative

      More likely it means "we have no idea about the remaining 25-33%". But the chances are the record companies won't mention any percentage terms - they'll turn it into cash and spin it that way:

      "$500 million lost due to the Internet!" (they won't mention that this is in a $multi-billion industry).

    2. Re:But... by Penguinshit · · Score: 5, Insightful


      The point you're missing here is that, apparently, file-sharing isn't the major cause of the downtrend in sales. If the recording companies would focus on the real causes, and embrace the Internet in the way in which their customers demonstrably want it fashioned (as shown by the popularity of the old Napster and other peer-to-peer technologies), then they could stabilize the sales numbers and see a huge profit from opening up a new revenue stream.

      The current download facilities, while popular, still fail to address the real issues presented by peer-to-peer. The RIAA already imposes a "CD Tax", why couldn't it have imposed a "Napster Tax"? The issue isn't really about free music, but rather about unfettered access to a wide variety.

      Of course, the record companies fear decentralized distribution because it removes some of their current complete power over the industry, which is what this issue is REALLY all about.

    3. Re:But... by Penguinshit · · Score: 2, Interesting


      Interesting, but even by your numbers the single biggest contributor to a drop in sales is decreased interest by the consuming public (45%). Shrinking retail space occurs because end-sellers have seen a shrinking demand for Product X and want to give Product Y (with more public demand) more shelf space. Competition from other media, again, points to decreased consumer demand; if the consumers wanted this particular product, it would squash the competition. Quality of music is, then, either the nexus or the largest contributor of the 45% drop.

      We can haggle semantics all you want; it just depends on how you slice the numbers to support your theory.

      My theory is that the Record Industry should have given Internet distribution MORE attention early on instead of just trying to crush it. The genie was out of the bottle before they were even aware of the bottle's existence and trying to stuff it back in will only continue to do harm to all parties concerned.

    4. Re:But... by RedWizzard · · Score: 2, Interesting
      So, one-quarter to one-third of the sales drop is due to internet piracy? I can see why companies might be worried about this.
      Of course, but their response has been out of proportion to the true magnitude of the problem. We've seen no end of lawsuits, threats, lobbying, media stories, and advertising about the piracy problem, but what sort of response have we seen to " shrinking retail space, competition from other media, and the quality of the music itself"? Not much that's visible. To the public, it looks very much like the recording industry is crying wolf over internet piracy in the same way the did over casettes, and the same way the TV industry did over videos.
  14. Its the... by night_flyer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Its the economy stupid! obviously those at the top didnt see that millions of jobs were lost because of the economic downturn that was accelerated thanks to 9/11...

    hmmm, food or the new Britny Spears CD... tough call

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    Thanks to file sharing, I purchase more CDs
    Thanks to the RIAA, I buy them used...
  15. MP3 players by Krypto420 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have an iPod and I no longer buy CD's. I mostly listen to live shows that are freely available all over the net. However, when there is an album that I would like to buy, I just get it from iTunes (or other online music store). For me the benefits are:

    1) Don't have to go to the mall.

    2) Same price as a CD or cheaper.

    3) I can back it up on a CD.

    4) I have a copy on my HD.

    5) I can convert it to different formats.

    6) Don't have to go to the mall.

    7) I can listen before I buy.

    8) If I like only one song, I don't have to buy the entire CD.

    9) Don't have to go to the mall.

    God I hate the mall...

    1. Re:MP3 players by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have a minidisc recorder and I create all my own music.

      No not playing it, but recording at concerts. there is a LARGE number of bands that allow taping at a concert. I end up with live albums of my favorites and not so favorites that is usually massively better than the junk the RIAA tries to sell.

      I got sick of crap music a long time ago. the only NEW album I have bought in over 2 years was the new CAKE album, and I bought that off the band's website to ensure they get the money from it.

      Now I collect my own minidisc or if it's really important on a portable DAT. then I get it in mp3 form for my audiotron or make CD's for the car.

      Tons better Celtic, Rock, Real Alternative (not that crap they play now), and others.

      collecting your own music is better.

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      Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
  16. NEWSFLASH!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The CD boom was people format shifting to CD media, many people own legit vinyl, cassette and CD copies of the same album. I'm not in a real hurry to switch formats again and the great thing about digital music is that I can make unlimited copies without the sound quality degrading, this is the ONLY reason I re purchased on CD's, and if they want to make it hard for me to do that I'll stop buying.

    The drop in sales has fuck all to do with filesharing, and everything to do with the witless commercial pop that saturates the market; everybody except the RIAA knows it!

  17. Innovationless... by Chordonblue · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think the main reason why music sales have declined is indeed an innovation problem - but it may not be the record company's fault (for once).

    In every decade you had technical innovation - whether it was 4 track recording in the 60's, the emergence of prog rock and sophisticated recording techniques in the 70's, synthesizers in the 80's, or rap/rock fusion in the 90's.

    Question: What has the 2000's offered that previous decades have not? Answer: Not too much. For the first time, there's no real innovation in the sound itself - there's simply nothing that hasn't already been done, no tech that a generation can call their own.

    If the music seems lame, it's because it is - it's all been done before.

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    "...Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam..."
  18. This just in... by FlimFlamboyant · · Score: 5, Funny

    (The boardroom of a major record label)

    "Guys, we have a major problem. Sales are at an all-time low, and if you all want to be able to pay for your BMWs and 2-million dollar mansions, we need a new strategy!"

    "Now, our attorneys and marketing boys have been hard at work, attempting to pass th blame for this dilemma for months on such things as piracy of all kinds. However, these conclusions just haven't explained the numbers, and we have just recently uncovered a shocking statistic that cannot be ignored. Please consult the chart on the wall to see how the numbers break down."

    Internet piracy: 9%

    Media piracy: 7%

    Any other kind of piracy that we couldn't pull out of our asses: 2%

    We sign crummy bands and try to pass their music off on people who actually have taste, despite all of our really expensive research: 80%

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  19. Let's get one thing clear though... by jxyama · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ...that this still does not legitimize music piracy.

    no harm != legitimate in many people's opinions.

  20. people like me quit buying altogether by CrudPuppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have bought 2 cd's in the past 3-4 years, not because I am pirating or downloading, but because I firmly believe the RIAA are the biggest crooks in this picture and refuse to support them.

    I believe the RIAA will rape their artists every which way they possibly can, and cheat them out of their royalties at every chance. Given this, I find it more than a little ironic that the RIAA campaigns against piracy by boldly proclaiming that downloaders are cheating the artists.

    Here's to hoping that sales continue to decline until the RIAA crumbles entirely out of the picture.

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    A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe in God.
  21. Music Distribution with large retailers by travisco_nabisco · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The article mentioned that large retailers, such as Walmart, are dedicating less and less space to CDs due to the increase in other entertainment media, I would suggest that an easy way to get around with would be to develop terminals that allow you to browse a library of CD's, sample a portion of each song, and then if you choose to buy the album, burns and labels the CD for you on the spot. This would eliminate the need for shelving for CD's, as well as allow retailers to have a much wider selection of music available.

    1. Re:Music Distribution with large retailers by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      This would eliminate the need for shelving for CD's, as well as allow retailers to have a much wider selection of music available.

      But at a much higher cost. Not only do you have to pay for the burner machine, but you also have to deal with issues like what to do about inserts, cases, etc. Also, a listen/burn machine is a serial use item, while shelving is parallel use. Finally maintenance, content updating, etc., all raise the cost even more.

      Anyway, it's non-viable when I can just sub in another rack of DVD's at a higher margin. If we end up where DVD's are the only thing available, who cares. People will generally spend their entertainment income on what's promoted and available. Which bits happen to be on the plastic doesn't matter to the retailers. Nor does it matter to the conglomerates who are just as happy (if not more so) to sell a crappy DVD as opposed to a crapy CD.

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      That is all.
  22. Lets separate fact and fiction by FortKnox · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is a study, just like the other studies made. Because this one says what you want to hear, doesn't make it 'truth.'

    The fact of the matter is that unless we can relive history and remove music piracy, we will never know for sure if it was 'the cause' of the decline or not.

    This is another study and should be treated just like the ones that 'say piracy is the reason for the decline' are.

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    1. Re:Lets separate fact and fiction by gorbachev · · Score: 3, Insightful

      " This is a study, just like the other studies made. Because this one says what you want to hear, doesn't make it 'truth.'"

      It wasn't just any study. It was made by one of the major music publishers. Not by an pro-consumer group or the lobbying arm of the consumer electronics manufacturers, but by the VERY people, who have been claiming Napster killed the CD star.

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      In Soviet Russia, I ruled you
  23. The War on Piracy. by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Its the economy stupid!
    We know that, and they know it too... But they wanted to be seen acting decisively, by declaring a War on Piracy. A "War on declining shelf space" or "war on crappy music" doesn't sound as good.
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    If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
  24. What about mobile phone ? by Jules+Labrie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It makes me always laugh to see all this people pretending that the music sales decrease comes from the downloads from the Internet.
    Young people simply don't have a extended budget. Ten years ago a normal teenager didn't have to pay 50 dollars a month for his mobile phone. This is the price of 4 CDs ! Some of us didn't even had a computer too ! These are all things that makes that we CAN'T buy more CDs, because we have less money for that. Sure, this is only a part of the explanation, but I don't see much people who invoke that argument.

  25. The cell phone killed the CD star by killbill! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    TFA mentioned a reason why CD sales were dropping is that CDs are competing for shelf space with other, higher-value forms of entertainment.
    Which is true (that the OST CD is worth almost as much as the full DVD is puzzling at best), but missed a more important point.

    Two words: Cell phones.

    Here in Europe most basic plans cost EUR 40 a month. That's a sizeable share of a teenager's allowance. That's at least 3 CDs a month they won't buy.

  26. Alternatives by Zorilla · · Score: 4, Informative

    This isn't exactly a head-on solution, but here's some particularly nerdy outlets for non-RIAA music:

    Nectarine Radio - streaming C64, Atari ST, Adlib, etc. music
    OC Remix - huge repository of submitted video game remixes
    Streaming radio of above
    Metroid Metal - Surprisingly well done

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    It would be cool if it didn't suck.
  27. Price did it for me. by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Personally, I find that CD's are just too expensive for me. I don't care that much about music, and can better spend that $15 elsewhere. Also, I just haven't found anything I really like in a while, though unlike most /. I blame this on my own narrow mindedness, and not the new music sucking. If the new music sucked so much, why does it sell so many copies? Most people tend to get stuck in a certain era of music, don't like the new stuff? Don't act suprised about it, you're getting old. Every generation tends to think that the next generation's music sucks, that's not going to change for you, you're not special, get over it.

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    Laziness is the father.
    1. Re:Price did it for me. by JoeZeppy · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Most people tend to get stuck in a certain era of music, don't like the new stuff? Don't act suprised about it, you're getting old. Every generation tends to think that the next generation's music sucks, that's not going to change for you, you're not special, get over it.

      That's a good point. I know I started to lose interest in the "music scene" around my early to mid thirties, settled down, quit my band, got married, etcetera.

      Has anyone charted the baby boomers' ages in regards to music purchases? Maybe there's just a lot of people getting older who just don't give a fuck about new music anymore.

  28. I vote poor quality by Morpeth · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I don't think I'm too old (I'm a 30-something) to be interested in new sounds and genres, but man - the stuff out today does nothing for me. I'd say 90%+ of hip-hop/rap is utter garbage, and the alternative stuff isn't all that alternative.

    H-H is horrid imo - endless, short, electronic loops of intensely annoying sounds, weak and/or stupid lyrics, bad singing (if they even sing at all), it's overly produced, etc. etc.

    Any new CDs I buy now are established artists who've been around for a while and have a new CD out; or I'll just buy some 'classic' stuff.

    Once uninventive, regurgitated hip-hop took over, the industry pretty much lost me.

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    'The unexamined life is not worth living' - Socrates
    1. Re:I vote poor quality by snoig · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm someone who is to old and I really like a lot of the new music I hear today. The problem for RIAA is that none of it is published by them. There are so many alternative sources for music these days that I haven't purchased any RIAA stuff in years. I have purchased cd's from bands at live shows, streamed Internet radio, purchased music from magnatunes.com, downloaded from bands websites, downloaded live shows from sites like etree.org. All legal alternative ways to get quality music these days. RIAA just needs to wise up.

    2. Re:I vote poor quality by TomTraynor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I am in the 40+ range and I agree. I also go out at times to venues that have live local bands playing and I enjoy their music a lot better than the packaged garbage the big companies try to get me to buy. These are not always the R&B & classic rock, but, bleeding edge bands and music. I don't always like the music, but, it is not boring. Also, their CDs are MUCH cheaper than the ones in the store and I know where the money is going to!

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    3. Re:I vote poor quality by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I generally agree with what you say, but so long as we have the major labels as a bottleneck, the grandparent poster has a point.

      Consider plain old rock music. During the 80s the metal scene was where it was at, it was all about big hair and exorbant costumes and songs about partying all night with hot ladies.

      Along comes Nirvana and the rest of the "grunge" scene, dressed in plaid, greasy matted hair, whining about how crappy the world is.

      Now, for me, the grunge stuff (for the most part, theres some I like) fell into the "music I dislike" category. I liked the upbeat party-till-you-puke atmosphere of a Slayer concert over the mope-till-mom-picks-you-up atmosphere of Pearl Jam. I don't consider them to be different genres either, musically, they're pretty much identical.

      But the major labels are the choking point. They get to decide, not me. And they decided, overnight, that metal was dead, and it was all about the grunge scene.

      Now, there was still plenty of metal out there to listen to, but it no longer gets any exposure. No play time on top 40 radio, and the only time it's mentioned on MTV is as something to be mocked, "Ha ha those 80s guys all they wanted to do was party and fuck hot chicks! What a bunch of idiots! They're so not emo like us!"

      Those same people have decided that black people like rap. Not R&B, soul, jazz, or anything else. And not just any rap, they like looping beats and some thug talking about shooting up bitchez while he macs on his waddle wizzle. Watch BET, see if they ever air anything else. No, industry has decided. Black people like gangsta rap.

      My point is, so long as that choking point exists, and someone decides "people like X, and dont like Y", they're going to alienate a certain group of people that like Y and dont like X.

      So I do see how many percieve that music is just getting worse. It's not, theres plenty out there to like, they just aren't being exposed to it by the mainstream media.

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      I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
    4. Re:I vote poor quality by SheepHead · · Score: 4, Informative
      I'd say 90%+ of hip-hop/rap is utter garbage

      I listen to hip hop and I agree. But 90% of music I hear on the radio is garbage and that's probably where you're hearing your hip hop.

      H-H is horrid imo - endless, short, electronic loops of intensely annoying sounds, weak and/or stupid lyrics, bad singing (if they even sing at all), it's overly produced, etc. etc.

      If the hip hop you know is "endless, short electronic loops" then - in my opinion - you're not listening to hip hop. The definitions get nit-picky, but in my mind if the MC (the guy with the microphone) doesn't have a DJ backing him up doing the music, it's not hip hop. It could be called rap, though. (Hip hop as a genre, to me, would have to embody more than one of the aspects of hip hop culture - MCing, DJing, breakdancing, and graffiti.) So music with a DJ is what you're looking for. The music should be as good as the lyrics.

      Now, beyond the instrumentals - if the music you know has weak and/or stupid lyrics, we have to find you new music. The reason I listen to hip hop is because of the lyrics, not in spite of. Because the lyrics are smart, because the rhymes are rhymes I've never heard, etc.

      Without rambling on for days, let me list a few albums or artists you might like to check out. Jurassic 5 - any album. Blackalicious - any album, but check out the newest one Blazing Arrow. Lyrics Born - Later That Day. Maroons - Ambush. Zion I - any album. Dilated Peoples - any album. Mos Def. The Roots. Talib Kweli. All of these groups have smart, generally positive lyrics. If you find someone you like, visit www.allmusic.com and see who they've worked with on other songs, and check out those artists too.

      If you're interested in turntablism (creating music with other records as the primary source) check out some of the great turntablists - The X-ecutioners, Rob Swift, Cut Chemist, DJ Z-Trip, DJ Shadow. (Rob Swift is in the X-ecutioners, but he has a few solo albums.)

      It will be different music than what you're used to, probably, but it'll also be different than the overproduced "blazin' hip hop & R&B" trash they play on the radio. Give it a chance, and listen to the lyrics and pay attention to what the DJs are doing - maybe you'll find something you like.

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  29. Good news by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 3, Interesting
    While this story is nothing new to us, and while it won't affect the decisions of anybody on the labels' side, it gives me a small amount of hope since it is the Economist writing this story.

    The economist reaches a very broad audience of VERY intelligent people, and also people who tend to have a lot of money, or be in positions of power. Hopefully they can recongize the situation for what it is, and I think the economist will give the position some credibility.

    We have to start somewhere with educating the people in charge, and I'd say the Economist is a hell of a source to have touting this position.

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  30. How do you count the effect of quality? by jfengel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's often beem said on Slashdot that the real reason for the decline is the decline of the quality of the music. That's possibly true, but I'd like to know how a reliable study could report on it objectively.

    Music tastes are extremely subjective. If anything, the objective measures would tend to suggest that the music is getting better, in the sense that it's been focus-grouped to death. Somebody out there is saying, "Yes, we like it. We like it so much we want to copy it off the Internet or from a friend's CD."

    It seems likely that in fact the focus-grouping and hit-promoting have lowered the quality of the music to a least common denominator, but I'd love to know how this industry report went about measuring that. In the end that measurement will describe how the music changes from here. The executives who make the decisions aren't artists and don't use artistic judgment to decide what to produce. They look at numbers and poll likely group members to see what will sell. They know that people will only buy what they like, so I'd love to know what measure of "like" they're using for this study that's different from the ones they're already using.

  31. Re:Physical CD Pirates? by sparty · · Score: 4, Informative

    I believe they refer to the people selling pirated copies of CDs (and usually other stuff, eg DVDs as well) on street corners and such...I know someone who was in New York City recently and saw both new-release movie bootlegs as DVDs and plenty of recent, mainstream pop CDs for sale in the sub-$10 range...as long as the cops didn't get too close, at which point the merchants either hid the media or split.

  32. Re:Physical CD Pirates? by natron+2.0 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Bootleg/Burned CDs you find at the flea market or on the corner in some guys trunk. That is a physically pirated CD.

  33. Concert attendance is down, too. by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative
    That made it to the Wall Street Journal.

    The music industry has a hard time accepting that they sell an elastic good - when prices go up, sales go down. That's really happened to concert tickets. $60 tickets for second-tier bands went unsold all summer. Several major tours were cancelled. Lollapalooza was cancelled due to slow ticket sales.

    The endless reissue of "oldies" is self-limiting. By now, everybody who wants any Beatles/Stones/Doors CD presumably has it.

    But the fundamental problem is much simpler. The outlets that sell audio CDs don't just sell music. They also sell movie DVDs, which provide more entertainment content at a lower price. Audio CDs ought to sell for about $3.99 to $5.99. There's no excuse for audio CDs by mediocre bands costing more than DVDs of major, big-budget films.

  34. Re:Physical CD Pirates? by PornMaster · · Score: 3, Informative

    You've surely heard of the CD replication facilities, particularly in the Far East, which pump out tens of thousands of copies of CDs which they haven't licensed the rights to...

    Physical CD piracy is the selling of unlicensed duplicated CDs... like the guy selling CDs from a table on the street for $5.

  35. "proximate causes for the decline in music sales" by Coleco · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Here's a 'proximate cause' for you: Creative accounting. Note that this is based on an internal study. The industry has in fact been making more money the past five years, and lying about it.

    Why?

    The purpose of pursuing piracy is to gain monopolistic control over *MEDIA* so that only 'the big six' (or is it five now?) can publish music. This will put independent artists out of business, in fact all record companies that aren't universal/warner/bmg/emi/sony. This is because they are trying to madate in law that all media must have digital protection. The protection will be crackable (it always is), but controlled by the RIAA, so they control who publishes.

    With the advent of home studios and the digital revolution.. and internet promotion there is less and less need for a bloated recording industry. They know this.

    People may pirate eminem but he still sells >10 million copies an album.

  36. What cured me from buying cds by MrWh1t3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I haven't bought or downloaded a Song or Cd since I got my satellite radio "Sirius" I think this is a good alternative and also a possible cure to pirated music. If you think about it you can get uncensored. Commercial free music of all of the new and old hits out there in addition to live talk shows and TV shows all for the price of 1 cd a month. When you go home take you portable docking station in your house.boat.friends car, etc... If not that you have online radio shout cast etc. This was my cure I don't know about anyone else.

  37. my beef with corporations by BortQ · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I get really pissed off when big corporations have the facts, but then spout an entirely different view to the public. The music industry knows that piracy isn't the biggest cause, yet in public (to congressmen) they are screaming bloody murder.

    It's the exact same thing with the pharma companies withholding the results of studies that are damaging to them. Ditto for the tobacco companies. I wish there was something that forced big companies to tell the truth when they have it.

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  38. No more Boomers by urmensch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think that the biggest reason that music sales are declining is that the largest demographic in this contry has finally stopped buying lots of music. The boomers have finally repurchased all the music they have owned on vinyl, eight track and cassette. They are not interested in Ashlee Simpson, Usher, Coldplay or Creed. Most of their children have grown up, so they aren't spending a lot of money there either.

  39. Music Sales Decline As People Get Older by reallocate · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's my contention that people buy less entertainment of all kinds as they grow older. Hence, as a country's population ages, music sales will decrease.

    Are there studies that bear on this?

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  40. Flamebait by kc0re · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'll probably get a Flamebait rating for this. But in my opinion (and the opinion of many of my fellow co-workers...) Music just sucks. There are no singers, there are no artists anymore, everyone is sampling the old music and just redoing everything. Talking about the bling, talking about the cash, and talking about "I got 99 problems but uh bitch ain't one". (Nice grammar there Jay-Z!) It's just stupid. The only artists left are Prince, (sits for three or four minutes) can't think of any more right now..

  41. Is it all relative? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The news from the industry is that sales are in decline since the 90's. One thing that isn't clear is the relative sales of new material vs newly released material. During the early 90's the CD player became affordable to the masses, and many people started to replace their older cassettes and records in addition to buying new CDs. The music companies started raking in sales, but after a decade, most of the old albums have been replaced.

    Sure there are re-releases today still but the numbers dwarf in comparison to the beginning to 90's. This was a point brought up during PBS Frontline "The Way the Music Died" documentary on the troubles of the music industry. I seem to remember that Frontline pointed out that sales relative to new albums have actually gone up. But the overall sales have gone down because older albums sales have decline greatly. This Economist report doesn't address this point.

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  42. Quality by bretharder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Today's music ain't got the same soul
    I like that old time a-rock 'n' roll

  43. MPAA / RIAA biggest fear by bani · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the one thing that gives them nightmares and keeps them up at nights.

    it's not p2p or theft or piracy or even used CD/DVD sales.

    their biggest fear is that you tune out and stop watching/listening altogether. that would mean not only no sales, but no advertising revenue either.

    if this happens on any scale, i expect the mpaa/riaa to push through 1984/maxheadroom style legislation requiring a TV in every house turned on 24/7, and make it illegal to turn them off.

  44. There is no good music today... by caldroun · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...the good RIAA sanctioned music stopped at about 94.

    Actually I have heard a lot of better music coming from the Indy space (ie. podcasts)
    From Garageband.com or Magnatune.

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  45. simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    90% of the kids that love the music don't have the money to buy the CDs. By the time they get to be the type of wage earning adult than can afford CDs, they're already turned off by the record companies.

    That's real smart marketing. Price your products to the point where your biggest market can't afford them, do anything to stop them from having them, play shi*t on the radio, do nothing for the little bands, and then complain your market share is down.

  46. Home Taping is Killing Music ! by bushboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Time Warp ...

    Hey, wow, what am I doing here !

    Last thing I remembered, I was reading the inner sleeve of my Madness 7 album which said "Home Taping is Killing Music" while recording it to cassette tape for my buddy.

    Now it's 20 years later and Music isn't dead !

    Arghgh ! - what's going on !

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  47. Satellite radio effects by ewg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article doesn't mention satellite radio, but in the USA subscriber bases for both XM and Sirius satellite radio services are growing rapidly.

    Don't know what the net effect of growth is. As a one-year XM subscriber, I listen to CDs less, but have purchased a couple a CDs from artists I never would have discovered without satellite radio.

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  48. insightful? good god! by poptones · · Score: 2, Funny

    what record company do you work for?

  49. Problably a number of different factors... by holiggan · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I guess that there ain't no "silver bullet" on this matter.

    Internet piracy must have its share of blame, of course, but it's not the only cause, and problably there isn't a only cause.

    Other factors may include economic recession, poor quality, repetitive artist offers, rehash of old "hits" in spite of new, refreshing sounds, much broader offer in entertaiment, etc, and the record labels are moving too slow to face these multiple factors.

    Of course, the multiplicity of "causes" and the speed at wich the entertaiment industry moves nowadays may harm the diagnostics of the situation, but I guess that the solution must involve some profound changes in the sector.

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  50. It's getting better. . . by Java+Ape · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I agree with the sentiment that mass-marketed music has declined dramatically in quality in recent years. However, the cloud has a silver lining that is becoming rapidly more apparent. As commercial music becomes increasingly unpalatable, niche markets for creative local groups become available.

    We are experiencing a Renaissance of locally-produced music, from street performers to small bands. Music is no longer the exclusive domain of a handful of mega-conglomerates, but is being taken back and revitalized on the micro scale. Seattle/Portland (near me) support a thriving community of small indepenent musicans producing truly excellent music. It's like the 60's all over again. Not so much "new" sounds, but new takes on the folk/rock/celtic traditions and a resurgence of interest in vocals and acoustic instrumentation rather than synthesized, reprocessed top-40. Complex, muti-layered arrangements that depend on real musicians, not 20 year old pinups with digitally-enhanced vocals supporting their silicon-enhanced figures.

    Personnally, I'm excited by the trend, and am actively building a large and varied CD collection with very little help from the RIAA.

  51. The Way Music Died by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 2, Informative

    For anyone interested, Frontline produced a very nice documentary about this topic.

    Record labels were once small and not very profitable. However during the 80's and early 90's the music industry saw the introduction of CDs, which compelled people to purchase many of their older albums again, as well as the introduction of new genres of pop music ( HipHop, Rap, Grundge, etc). The combination of these events brought a LOT of money to record labels, and that compelled larger corporations to start investing in the music industry. Unfortunately, CDs and new genres of music became mainstream, and now we have corporate labels who are concerned about quarterly profits... not long term investments. All in all, it's a recipe for disaster... and crappy music.

    But... any who... watch the Frontline piece to see what happens.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/mu si c/view/

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  52. Re:Um, duh? by shdragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While this may not be news to /. community, I can assure you that this *is* news to the PHB & corporate executive types. I haven't found any "studies" showing your assertion, only a bunch of no-name anonymous people on the internet. Having someone as respected in the business community back up your assertion will give you clout when dealing with the non-slashdot (Joe Six-Pack & Granny) community. To put it bluntly:

    It's one thing to run your mouth on a tech related web site claiming something. It's an entirely different (and more credible) thing to have a major business publication say you're right.

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  53. Evil Economics by Toby+The+Economist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wrote about this a while ago.

    http://www.summerblue.net/missives/copyright.htm l

    The major distributors are now in a situation where their product is having to compete with a free rival (P2P). It's hard to compete with free. In fact, all the major distributors have to offer are ease of access, breadth of catalogue and guaranteed quality. This is not worth 15 UKP a CD and 25 UKP a DVD! this painful adjustment is currently what the major distributors are in denial about, and have attempted to perform a minimum-effort resolution, lawsuits, and via DRM.

    Our culture is accustomed to copying, because of the VCR, and it is not possible, a la prohibition, to legislate out of existance an act which is widely culturally accepted.

    DRM is a brittle solution, since the P2P networks provide immediate and universal distribution of material; if a DRMed product is broken *just once*, then it's gone - it goes public, and that's that. Since DRM is a major investment, and since these companies have a long habit of choosing proprietory security implimentations, I think they're on a burning plane with no parachutes.

    All in all, I think the heyday of the major distributors is over.

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  54. Except... by debest · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Buying used is guaranteed, no-doubt-about-it legal. No copyright violation possible: you're buying the same copy as was sold originally.

    In such a scenario, that copy has already benefitted the artist as much as it was designed to.

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  55. What about internet radio? by 3nuff · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm not talking about file sharing, I'm talking about internet radio stations.

    I'm willing to bet that the same people that are buying satellite would listen to internet radio. I think that all the 15 mins of music with 30 mins of comercials really puts off a lot of tradional radio listeners these days. These people are turning to internet and satellite to avoid all this BS. You only need to listen to commerical radio once a month to memorize the playlist.

    Turn on internet and satellite and you'll have to listen a whole month to hear the same song again, if it really does play again. Plus with internet radio you can get an artists name (not sure how this works with satellite).

    My point is that if it weren't for these new technologies I probably wouldn't have found anything new.

    That and AllMusic which is a great resource for researching a genre or even an artist that you like.

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  56. Even better by meganthom · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Back in my hometown (Rock Hill, SC), a local music shop (Woody's) has a used record bin up front. The records in the bin are $1 each. Granted, you won't find any new stuff out there, but if you have a record player and like the poppinp and crackling of vinyl, you can really make out. Even better, I've discovered jazz and rock artists this way--a whole album for the cost of a soda!

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  57. Wonder no longer! by Chordonblue · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'll tell you how, because it's painfully true. The music industry has built it's business by offering something new to each generation of kids. Honestly, what's new lately? The artist examples you give have been around since the 90's - at least. I was taling about THIS decade.

    It can be argued that music is continually evolving and I agree with that except that the previous few decades have shown far more music innovation that has arguably happened for thousands of years. The presentation of recorded music, ways of recording it, and whole new instruments fueled a lot of original material - stuff you could honestly say didn't sound like anything before it. Maybe I'm old, but I'm not hearing what THIS generation's music is doing to be different.

    Just because it's on the Internet doesn't mean the music itself has changed much. For instance, there were similarities in New Wave to the preceeding Disco era, but there were extremely distinctive differences (mostly in instrumentation). I'm not sure mating a grunge band with a DJ is all that innovative, but for the sake of argument, I'll bite on that one.

    But again, that was soooo... Last decade.

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  58. Challenge by metamatic · · Score: 2, Funny

    Show me where I can buy a copy of Kraftwerk's latest ("Tour de France Soundtracks") for $12 and I'll buy it immediately. I've been looking online and offline since it was released.

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  59. I dont think BAD music is entirely to blame by hine_uk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...before you all start to go nuts hear me out. Sure we know music is starting to suck but there is only so much money to go round and as consumers were are starting to spend our money on other items. For instance I believe video games and DVD sales are booming if recent figures are to be believed . Now that money has to come from somewhere, it is just a sign of changing times and market trends shifting. I personally dont think we will ever see CD sales return to what they were.

  60. I usually prefer albums by jesterzog · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ever since I started buying music on iTunes, I have yet to buy an entire album. What does that suggest? There are too many junky tracks on every CD.

    I don't know what sort of music you listen to, but I like a lot of albums as a whole, as they've been produced by the artists and the producers. The promoted singles sometimes get my attention, but I usually prefer to play the album completely.

    After all, would you be satisfied watching a 10 minute slot out of a movie or half an act in a play? Those scenes aren't pointless or worthless just because they're not complete. More often than not, if it's well directed, they're developing context for the surrounding material that makes the whole even better.

    I'm sure there are exceptions. I don't imagine that most teeny-bop music is much more sophisticated than throwing a collection of songs onto a CD when it comes to album arrangement. (I don't listen to it, so I couldn't say for sure.)

  61. New music by Shant3030 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I strongly feel that new music is just awful. These new musicians are horrendous, and shoved down our throats by huge media marketing campaigns. Throw in the fact that hip-hop has become the mainstream and its driven by no-talent ass clowns (Lil' John, Birdy, Chingy, Nelly, etc), we won't see any good music for a while.

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  62. Re:Um, duh? by DavidNWelton · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Economist is such an excellent magazine because even when they write about something we know about, we can say "duh" instead of "they got it all wrong". Now extend that to world news, business, finance and economics, science and technology, and a smattering of other articles, and you have a magazine that covers a lot of things pretty well, which is not an easy accomplishment. It's nice to see things like this there, because it also means they are probably being read by at least a few people with real power.

  63. music that doesn't suck by joeaggie · · Score: 5, Informative
    Four years ago, if you had said that my favorite style of music would be a genre of country music I'd have probably decked you and told you to never speak such blasephemies. But now I love country, I'm not talking about your run of the mill radio-country/Nashville country, I'm talking about "Texas country" or "progressive country". In an era where rock and roll is composed entirely of people with annoying whiney voices and no musical talent whatsoever and rap/hip-hop artists are starting to remind me more and more of the way 80's heavy metal bands started acting with their excesses of everything, Texas country has filled my musical gap.

    I know, I know... most of the people on Slashdot are probably thinking I've started smoking crack or something, but I can honestly say I can't remember the last time I bought a new rock album. Try bands like Cross Canadian Ragweed or Reckless Kelly, they are more southern rock than country. Pat Green is the godfather of the Texas music scene, although I think he's starting sound more and more "Nashville", check out his older albums. There are too many other names to mention here but i'll put a link on the bottom of the page.

    Of all current styles of music this seems to be the only one that doesn't have completely innane lyrics, i.e. the lyrics aren't about how much their life sucks like most current rock songs, doing drugs and having sex like most current rap songs(remind you of 80's metal?, hehe), and finally the lyrics aren't some lame patriotic theme or a corny love song like "Nashville country". Not to mention that the artists actually write their own songs, which can't be said about alot of forms of music popular these days. If you still doubt me, then by all means check out some of these bands. I don't think anyone outside of Texas, Oklahoma, and Louisiana even knows they exist. At the universities here in Texas I don't think I know a single person who hasn't at least heard of these guys. I hope I helped you find alternatives to the RIAA's list of crap....

    -Joe

    Links:

    http://www.texasmusicguide.com/

    http://www.lonestarmusic.com/

    http://www.patgreen.com/

    http://www.crosscanadianragweed.com/

    http://www.texasmusicmovement.com/

  64. Re:My Reason for not buying new CDs by Electric+Eye · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've got over 500 CDs in my collection, but these days I'm lucky if I buy a new one more than once every 4 or 5 months. There is just rarely anything good out there anymore. Granted, I'm a metal fan, but even metal acts suck these days. I can always relyon groups like Judas Priest, Megadeth or Iron Maiden to put out somethig worthwhile, but that's about it. Kinda sad.

  65. MTV and Radio by AdrainB · · Score: 3, Funny

    I believe the major reason for lackluster sales of CDs is that MTV doesn't play videos anymore and radio is payola, playing the same crap over and over. I think a lot of music buyers have also been alienated by the rise of hip-hop.

  66. "It's the business model, stupid" by Old+Stancher · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The major labels have all adopted a business model which puts a heavy initial investment on an "artist" with the expectation that their popularity, while enormous to begin with, won't last more than a few years. I think people are wising up to the fact that they've bought all these albums that they don't listen to any more and have realized that it's just a waste of money to invest in music with no staying power.

  67. positioning on radio by sloth+jr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    With the homogenization of radio ala clearchannel, and their annoying "demographics" and pay-for-play formats, the biggest problem I have when I DO hear the rare song that catches my ear is that I have no way of finding out what it is I just listened to.

    iTunes and its ilk have made purchasing new music a bit more viable for me now - the previews are good (I'd buy half the tracks on every Cake album out there, and discard the rest) and I appreciate the "people who bought X also bought Y" references - it turns me onto some tunes and bands I hadn't heard of before.

    Similarly, the in-store preview audio systems like RedDot in Barnes & Noble and Borders are pretty useful also.

    Corporations need to get over the whole physical media thing, plus make radio a useful method of getting new music out there (why they play the same 50 songs all day long blows my mind - no request mechanisms, no way to throw out new music to expose potential big sellers - it's music by committee)..

    sloth jr

  68. Nothing new here? by mikers · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not too long ago, there was a slashdot article of an interview with David Crosby on Frontline.

    He talked about how at some point the tone and attitude of big music changed from being supportive and developing of young talent for the long term to being adverserial and short term profit minded.

    I think this economist article is the conclusion and proof of what he was talking about, his thoughts were mostly anecdotal without concrete evidence. From the interview:

    "When it all started, record companies -- and there were many of them, and this was a good thing -- were run by people who loved records," he says. "Now record companies are run by lawyers and accountants. ... The people who run record companies now wouldn't know a song if it flew up their nose and died."
    SRC: PBS Frontline

    The result of this commercialization and 'selling out' resulted in companies the likes of Sony, BMG, EMI, etc. run by lawyers and accountants. Of course, their first instinct when faced with new technology and a threat is to sue the pants of grandmas and 12 year olds. Way to go corporate America!!!

    I'm gonna apologize for my attitude, for this next part but... I got karma to burn.

    Evidently, having some lawyer or accountant run a business may just well run it into the ground. There is apparently no substitute, no matter how ivy or expensive your degree may be, for heart and really appreciating the business you work with or work in. Being in it for money will eventually sink the ship. It's love of music that brings out the great music, and brings it to the people, not lawsuits, not cheap thrills turned into overnight successes with the help of Payola (to radio stations -- ahem Clear Channel), over promotion and slick advertising (ahem -- MTV).

    I hope Elliot Spitzer rips these companies and the lawyers who run them a new one with his Payola investigation.

    M

  69. There's more good music today AND far more crap by tentimestwenty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I own a record store that carries everything from the beginning of recorded music and I can say without a doubt that the quantity of good music created TODAY is more than it has ever been in the past. The problem is that the overall amount of music is exponentially more now than it has been. We find ourselves deluged by an immense amount of shit and so it seems like there's fewer classic albums. Frankly, the average person doesn't have time to listen to everything and find the really good things. Most of the real music lovers who used to filter some of the crap and promote the real quality as A&Rs are long gone. What we really have is MBA's churning out marketable artists with no interest in the music.

    There are some good web sites that take up the slack like Pitchfork but the best way to find something current (or old) is to go down to your local independent store and ask them. They're the only ones left who are actively filtering the bad stuff and sharing what they know.

  70. Re:Before the LP? by bedessen · · Score: 2, Informative
    I always feel like the record companies fooled us when CD's came out. Sure, they sounded great, but when CD's were new, vinyl LP's were now $7, and the CD was $14-16, with the excuse that "we are capacity constrained, when we get more capacity, prices will be much cheaper, because these things are cheap to make".

    US$7 in 1983 (the year the compact disc was introduced) is equivalent to $12.73 in 2003 after accounting for inflation. The average retail CD price in the first quarter of 2004 was $13.29. Seems like CDs these days are selling for about the same as your vinyl LPs back in the day, so that line of reasoning really doesn't go very far. You can't compare monetary amounts spanning two decades without accounting for inflation.