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Firefox 1.0 Released
New Here writes "November 9 has arrived and with it comes Firefox 1.0. According to its home page, Firefox empowers you to browse faster, more safely, and more efficiently than with any other browser. I'm New Here, but this Firefox does sound very promising! Firefox 1.0 is available now for Windows, Linux, and Mac from the mozilla.org ftp server."
No way really?
Mozilla.org is really getting hammered. Try waiting a few hours for the mirrors to update.
Here is a Google cache of the Firefox Mirror List.
I've managed to download a copy and order a t-shirt and the site isn't slashdotted yet. What are you all asleep or something?
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Why should I switch from Mozilla to Firefox?
Mirrors:
s es/1.0 a ses/1.0/ e fox/releases/ / releases/1.0/ i refox/releases/
l eases/1.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%201.0.exe.to rrent
http://64.12.168.21/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/relea
http://207.200.85.49/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rele
http://trillian.cc.gatech.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fir
http://mozilla.osuosl.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox
http://mozilla.ussg.indiana.edu/pub/mozilla.org/f
Official Torrent:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/re
http://almostsmart.com
Got it 5 hours ago.
The new homepage points to http://www.google.com/firefox. Fire your conspiracy theories at will...
0daymeme.com: Great stuff.
It was already running incredibly slowly BEFORE slashdot posted the article.
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Your extensions will be disabled unless they are configured as compatible with 1.0. Unfortunately right now trying to use the built in "search for updates" feature is very slow, from server load I presume. I found updates for several of my favorites by searching http://www.mozdev.org/.
http://firefoxfah.sourceforge.net/fftorrent.html
Or at least I hope so, even if IE fights back a tiny ammount we'll see a huge lot of improvements in the web generally, IE is so often the 'lowest common denominator' when it comes to designing for the web.
But for usability and speed of use I'd go with Firefox any day.
before it gets hammered too badly:
linux i686 torrent
win32 torrent
(both EN-US).
For now, at least: ftpmoz.newaol.com/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases /1.0/
Anyone know if the New York Times ad went through? Is it available to view anywhere?
They don't need to learn. At least that's their take on it. They include the browser with the OS. How many people who arent geeks like us will spend the time to download another browser and learn how to integrate it with their os - cuz we all know MS does not make that an easy task.. "Internet Explorer is no longer your default browser? Should I notify the FBI?!?!" etc.
Don't Tread on Me
New browser takes on Microsoft. Pretty fair coverage IMHO.
An Indian-American Hindu committed to non-violent thought/speech/action alarmed by the global explosion of radical Islam
For the Europeans: http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/
Donkey:
OS X Will rule this world
Windows Exe
tar.gz
I will work to elevate you, just enough to bring you down
ftp://mozilla.isc.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rele ases/1.0/ r efox/releases/1.0/ e fox/releases/1.0/ e ases/1.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%201.0.exe.tor rent
ftp://mozilla.ussg.indiana.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fi
ftp://mozilla.oregonstate.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fir
Official mozilla.org torrent for Win32:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rel
Its great! I downloaded it from here: http://mozilla.ussg.indiana.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fi refox/releases/1.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%201.0.zip
Don't think slashdot will be able to bring down an edu. Go firefox!
http://www.livejournal.com/users/metricmusic
When the Grauniad and the BBC report this story hours before it appears on Slashdot, you know something's wrong with the world.
Bad form to reply to my own post, but some more useful links here:
Windows torrent and executable.
Linux torrents for installer and tarball.
FoxyTunes: http://www.iosart.com/foxytunes/firefox/
AdBlock: http://adblock.mozdev.org/
More: http://update.mozilla.org
I've posted some more interesting news and Mozilla developer blog links and a screenshot of the new Firefox Google search interface on my blog:
inside aebrahim's head - firefox 1.0 is here!
longer if you get the torrent (win32).
This one for Linux.
Well I'm reading this in Firefox 1.0 and it *still* doesn't like slashdot's code. It still occasionally renders the comments overlapping the left hand menu and it initially rendered this "post comment" screen double width - with the left hand menu titles taking up my entire screen. I haven't encountered any problems with any other sites, so I expect it's just slashdots dubious HTML that's confusing firefox. Mind you I hate to admit that I've never seen IE mis-render slashdot.
Has anyone else seen Firefox render slashdot incorrectly?
It can usually be fixed with a simple click of the reload button (F5).
Next desire, native SVG support so FireFox wins the enterprise space before Longhorn even gets to market.
We have two years.
If you read the spreadfirefox FAQ, the ad wont run on the day of release but in some point within the next three weeks. They get better pricing if they dont demand a specific day.
were you expecting to see a sig here? perhaps you'd rather see the inside of an ambulance!
Help out grassroots advocacy for Firefox @ Spread Firefox. This is the community that organised the NYTimes add.
The site seems to be down so here is the Google cache and the Corel link.
[Vader]I find your lack of faith distrubing[/Vader]...
What are the top 10 reasons to use FF over IE? I'll start:
1. Security
Any really good arguments here?
2. Standards
Open standards ensure that independent vendors can compete on fair grounds. The W3C is the de facto standards body for internet standards. Firefox is implemented from the ground up based on those standards. Standard compliant websites will show in any browsers (on any platform) that also complies to the standards, and not just in a specific browser with its own standard.
3. Extensibility
Different users have different needs. For most, the normal Firefox distribution has all required features. For some, a specific extra feature is of considerable value. Firefox has support for plugin's, which is small custom components of code that can deliver near any functionality.
4. Reliability
In firefox, what you see is what you get. No hidden agendas, no spy-ware installing behind your back.
5. Comfort
Do you remember how the internet was a few years back when there were no annoying pop-up's and you didn't have to worry about spyware installing on your machine behind your back? With Firefox, you can once again realize that blissful sensation of using the Internet.
6. Continuity
Firefox is not going to stop innovating at 1.0 or whenever it has market dominance. Firefox is here to stay, and to keep evolving.
7. Slickness
Firefox has stunning looks and sleek controls. You can download a theme with a few clicks, or you can create your own. Firefox is hot, Internet Explorer is not.
8. For the people, by the people
Microsoft is not your friend. Firefox, like much open source software, is built for the people, by the people. You'll find that Firefox is surrounded by an enthusiastic community of supporters, not big business. Firefox, like other Open Source Software, is built, maintained and supported by people who believe in sharing, cooperation, and community.
9. ?
10.?
Unable to read configuration file '/bigassraid/htdig//conf/14229.conf'
Geocrawler error message.
If you download one of the nightly builds, you'll see it's actually fixed in the "trunk," but not in the "branch" 1.0 came from, because it apparently caused too many other flaky reactions.
bug 264913
bug 217527
The good news is that Slashdot WORKS again in the nightlies. If you really want, you can grab a nightly build here and check it out for yourself. They are generally pretty stable, but thy sometimes f with your extensions.
You mean, they should all get together and make themselves equal in size? :-)
Or was that meant to be, "commence?"
ObOnTopicComment: Yes, Firefox is darned good. You should try it.
Unfortunately Firefox 1 also comes with a number of 'improvements' that are rather dubious. The two that I personally dislike are:
/ Or chidaceae_coauthoring.htm
1. The 'default plugin' which used to be a dynamic library called something like 'libnullplugin.so' is now statically linked in, which means that you can't just remove it. What it does is nag the you every bloody time you go to a page that wants to display something that requires a plugin; these plugins are used intensively in adverts, which is why I don't have them.
2. There has always been a way to search in the displayed page - go to 'Edit -> Find in This Page' in the menu, or press CtlF. In earlier versions you had to press the 'Find Next' button in the search dialog in order to start the search. In Firefox 1.0 the search happens as you type. Some people like it, apparently, but to me it is incredibly disruptive. There are situations where you definitely don't want this functionality; one such is if you, like me, feel it hard to concentrate on the dialog box when the background moves. Another, rather lengthy example is the following:
Assume that you work with a big text that contains a large number of complicated words, like eg (WARNING: its huge):
http://flora.huh.harvard.edu/china/mss/volume25
This is a botanical text about orchids in China, and it is full of exotic names. Let's say that you have found 'Hemipilia kwangsiensis', and you want to find other occurrences of 'kwangsiensis'. If you are like me, you press CtlF, type the word (none of this mouse stuff for me if I can avoid it) and press [Return]. Except that the wods you are looking for disappears as soon as you start typing, and now you have the problem of finding the original place in a text of about 900 pages printed. And all that just to be cool. It would definitely have been nice with an option that could turn it off.
Apart from that it is a good browser; definitely better than IE. I can recommend v.0.9
It 's shame !
Don't be fooled ! Why you must keep Internet Explorer at all cost
Ploum.net.
I don't understand why Mozilla is ignoring the suite. It's a great product and is widely used. I personally have been seriously using the suite since about 0.6 and I can't understand why everyone's gone against it. If you have even 256 MB RAM it's fast. Yes it does take longer than IE to load up, but I start up Moz when I start my PC and don't close it until I shut down.
I think it's sad the development of the suite has really slowed now.
Some of us require browsers for work - web developers, researchers, IT people. Firefox contributes GREATLY to producitivity: tabbed browsing with middle click background-opening is unmatched in IE. It makes google'ing 10 times faster.
Plus, it's so much easier as an IT manager, because IE is a friggin magnet for shit - people end up with so much junk on their computer that DOES come from IE. Exploits are written for IE, and IE is more flawed than any other browser and the security fixes take longer than any other browser.
Maybe you SHOULD care!
Please people, use the mirrors or the mozilla.org ftp redirect. The plugin finder is suffering from the slashdotting and massive surge in traffic. We don't want to drive people away as the first thing they experience is problems finding/updating their extensions/themes.
l eases/
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/re
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Sweet. Pulled it down from the torrent in seconds. Can't even reach Mozilla.org or spreadfirefox.com or any of those sites right now. They are simply swamped.
;)
I wonder how bad my home server would get pounded if I were to post a link to the FireFox 1.0 download. Go ahead, pound it... It's a special occassion.
Oh, and not directly related, but from MSFT site:
Using the executable installer to install to the path of my existing Firefox installation (PR1) resulted in the browser's shell completely flaking out when the browser was eventually launched. No start page would load. The Bookmarks menu was empty (clicking on Manage Bookmarks and then returning to the Bookmarks menu solved this). Visiting web pages didn't seem to affect the interface whatsoever (i.e.: no active back button, no loading page animation, no updating of location bar, etc.). In general, the shell seemed disconnected from the application itself.
A normal uninstall, followed by a re-install did not solve the problem. Files were left in the install directory and, when prompted, I chose to wipe out the entire directory. Only after performing a complete uninstall (completely deleting the install path, but preserving the profiles) and reinstalling did Firefox work properly. Your mileage may vary, but I hope this isn't a widespread problem, as a 1.0 release isn't the time for screwups like this.
Might I have been doing something wrong? Installing a new version to the old path seems to be a a well-supported idiom, as I've been doing that for ages without problems with all manners of programs.
I just installed Firefox today, and being a Mozilla user there's one thing that firefox doesn't do that mozilla does that I've grown accustomed with.
In Mozilla, you could hide the sidebar by clicking in the middle of the edge of the sidebar. In Firefox they removed that and now to close the bar you have to click on the X
similar to how IE handles them. It also seems that you cannot merge sidebars, such as the history and favorites, so you can't view them both at the same time.
Is there a theme or a way to return that functionality in firefox short of rewriting the whole thing?
In Soviet Russia, Trojan exploits YOU!
Here are the Moox cpu-optimized builds for windows (I've been using these since 0.9.3, and they seem significantly faster on my Athlon XP).
Enjoy
"When a ball dreams, it dreams it's a frisbee"
I don't know what 9 should be, but 10 should be "Profit!"
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
Open Firefox and put about:config in the address line.
Put app.extensions.version in the filter.
Change value from 1.0 to 0.10
Most, if not all, extensions that work in PR should work now.
Your extensions will have to be reactivated by right clicking on each extension and selecting Enable.
Use at your own risk...Lawyers make me say that...
Slashdot, home of supporters of free software, free music, and free speech.Except for Moderators that disagree with you.
The only problems I've seen firefox cause are not the fault of firefox, but of poor web design. Those web designers who don't bother to test their work on anything but IE. IMHO, if you are going to be doing web design for anything more then your own personal page, you need to have numerous browsers installed on your machine, and either physical boxes or VMware session to other OSes to test, test ,test. But I suppose that is lost to many.
Don't Tread on Me
Better yet, I just change the target of the IE shortcut to point to Firefox.
Does this look like the face of concern?
First of all, by default, you have to type '/' to activate the search as you find tool. Also, the Edit->Find features are still there. Type Control+F and the field will come up so you can type in whatever you want. And then you type in what you want, and then hit enter. Then to search again you can hit F3 or Control+G. So I really don't understand your gripe at all. If you want to change the search/find utility to automatically search as you type (meaning, no typing '/' first), then you can do that as well via Tools-Options->Advanced->Accessibility->2 nd Option.
So...I'm pretty sure I understood your post correctly, but it didn't make much sense, because you can still do CtrlF, F3 as you did before. That has not changed. If I'm wrong, then reply to this.
"Time is long and life is short, so begin to live while you still can." -EV
- Read the "Why Use Firefox?" document
- Go download Firefox and install it
- Use Firefox as you default browser for 5 days
- If, after 5 days, you're still not convinced that Firefox is the best browser there is, uninstall it and switch back
(From an original idea on Spread Firefox, but the site is -surprise!- currently unreachable)-- Serge K. Keller
9. XUL really rocks:
Have a look here: http://www.faser.net/mab/chrome/content/mab.xul
Now be sure to change your web pages to detect non-Firefox browsers (or at least non-IE) and encourage them to upgrade to Firefox. I've documented the basic technique here: How to detect Firefox and See the headers you're sending.
EricWhy the Vioxx recall reduced spam (humor)
1. Security
Any really good arguments here?
I'm not sure if you want arguments for or against Firefox, but its security track record is abysmal. There are still UI spoofing security holes relating to XUL, and some of these have been known about for a very long time. It was far worse off than Internet Explorer when it comes to unchecked buffers. Hole-for-hole, it's no better than Internet Explorer.
4. Reliability
They keep breaking themes and extensions every point release. That's unacceptable from an end-user's perspective.
In case it gets slashdotted, new features:
And improvements:
I ran Linux exclusively from 1995-2000, and the lack of a STABLE web browser than would handle LOTS of Java, Flash, etc ... it sent me to Windows 2000.
I kept Linux on the server, but Windows on the Desktop.
I was really not expecting much when I downloaded Firefox 5 months ago, as I had been using IE exclusively for 4 years.
What an incredible surprise. I have not used IE at all for three months, and am considering a switch back to Linux on the desktop.
Firefox has the potential to really open some doors to not only "alterntative" browsers, but "alternative" OS'es as well.
FF Default Home page?
Die, MSN, die!
The same might be true at some point for ThunderBird, but at the moment, KMail is just so far ahead of everything else that hurts. When that happens, though, Microsoft should be very, very afraid: If you don't need to care about the operating system anymore for 95 percent of the things you do, you don't need to pay all that money to actually buy one from them.
No I think it is your computer that is running like ass because I have only half the machine you got and
mine smokes.
Got Code?
This one is right at the hub of NYC. Big pipes.
http://www.friedneko.com/Firefox Setup 1.0.exe
Firefox for Windows has built in NTLM authentication. Type your username/password combo in and go nuts.
Dammit! I'm left with an empty bookmark folder and to my dismay, bookmarks.bak has also been overwritten after installing firefox 1.0. Be warned!!!
Hmmm... I wonder why they didn't create a page using XUL, like this page:
Google XUL
This has become my new homepage in Firefox, although I wish it was centered...
I believe this was done for consistency with microsoft's software in windows. The logical place is indeed under edit, but usability has little to do with logic. If most windows users expect it under tools, under tools it must go.
Some may still not work, but most of them probably will.
Isn't the whole point behind auto update is that it does it for you, or it at least tells you that an update is available? It seems to me that auto update isn't working at all. I've gotten no notification of any kind on any of our boxes.
I don't respond to AC's.
the student/IT worker's best friend, Portable Firefox. Works great off of my USB keydrive. :D
The US Army: promoting democracy through unquestioned obedience
I disagree. "Edit" menu contains editing commands, right? Cut, copy, paste, delete (no matter if it spplies to text, image or other content). What's logical about placing Options there?
It's just as illogical to put options under "View" menu, which is meant for managing the way content is displayed in the program. You don't just "view" options, you view and modify them. "Tools" is a kind of a catch-all, but it makes most sense of the three.
"Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity." - Marshall McLuhan
If you are a regular Slashdot surfer, you might want to check out my extension, SlashFix which fixes the very annoying Slashdot rendering errors in the Firefox 1.0 branch.
These errors are fixed in the Mozilla trunk source code, but for apparently sound reasons, the developers didn't want to check the fixes into the 1.0 branch, apparently because they caused problems with some other, unnamed web sites. SlashFix is a good interim solution so you don't feel compelled to start up IE just to surf your favorite geek time-waste.
"I guess that depends on whether you consider having someone who installs software on your machine and replaces your defaults without your knowledge a good thing. I sure don't."
Sounds pretty trollish, but I'll bite.
Say you see a little baby hitting him/herself in the head with a wooden bat and you just happen to have a nice soft rubber bat, what do you do? Duh, you swap bats. The baby won't notice, and less concussions will ensue. (Granted, if you see babies hitting themselves in the head with a wooden bat, you have bigger problems on your hands.)
Believe it or not, the average person doesn't give a flying fsck what browser is installed on their computer as long as it works. Are they motivated enough to replace their defaults or do they even know how to? No.
Do the right thing and give them a rubber bat!
Your browser detecting technique is broken. If you send different content to clients depending on which HTTP request headers are sent, you need to send an appropriate Vary response header. Otherwise public caches could serve the wrong content to the wrong browsers, resulting in Firefox users getting "upgrade to Firefox" and non-Firefox users getting the content intended for Firefox users.
With thanks to escaflo:
Moox Firefox 1.0 M1 (MMX) Torrent
Moox Firefox 1.0 M2 (SSE) Torrent
Moox Firefox 1.0 M3 (SSE2) Torrent
Use the torrents and save his bandwidth.
Visceral Psyche Films
HEHEE...
:) :)
Think about it...
TONS of geeks downloading Firefox.
Each copy of Firefox has a live bookmark pointing to slashdot.
Slashdot's RSS news feed get's slashdotted and Cmdr. Taco goes nuts
Finally, this is what happened
I really wonder what the present download count is!
Find a job you like and you will never work a day in your life.
You're quite right about the Vary header, and I've updated the page (and the header viewer) accordingly, thanks: How to detect Firefox.
EricReading C Declarations: A Guide for the Mystified
10. Profit!
I don't think they change anything major (or haven't since .9 or so). In the past (before knowing about this option), I've modified extentions manually to up the target version number to whatever I was running.
I think their way of specifying Firefox versions is rather retarded. Instead, I think each Firefox build should have a list of extention API versions it supports, and all the extentions should have an API version number instead of a Firefox version number. But, at 1.0, its probably too late to change that for the time being.
You can mod your friends, you can mod your nose, but you can't mod your friend's nose.
Java and Flash on Linux are at least as good as their Windows versions. Yeah sites that use them can be slow, annoying, and sometimes, though very rarely, cause browser instability, but I see the same crap happen to my wife under Windows XP with IE.
The type of plugins that still suck on Linux are media player browser plugins. Sure there is an mplayer plugin for Mozilla, but after over a year of using it... I still feel that it is crap. So for video and music that is not streamed, I just download to a local folder and play from there. However, for streamed content, I tend to be up sh*t creek.
And don't forget that many of your extensions will not be able to work with this version of Firefox. -.-
This is perhaps the one most annoying thing about Fireofox. I love it, the extension concept is fantastic, it really makes my browser the way I want it to be... but it's almost Microsoft-in-a-Can when it comes to upgrades and dealing with old extensions.
I really hope that they include SOME backwards compatability with extensions in future versions of Firefox. I had a nice set of extensions that I had give Firefox EXACTLY the behavior I wanted it to have. (Doubleclick to close tabs, smooth mouse scrolling, BugMeNot, Googlebar -- frickin' GOOGLEBAR! doesn't work yet under 1.0 -- Image Toolbar, and a bunch of others.) But as soon as I upgraded, half my extensions suddenly don't work.
Ironically, FoxyTunes, the extension that took almost forever to get ported over to MacOSX, isn't one of the ones that needs to be updated.
A message to the Firfox developers: I hope this isn't the way things are going to be for EVERY version release, otherwise people might not bother to update, and then we get the same thing that happened with Windows with people not updating their boxen.
"I am an Adept of Tantric VAX."
Then explain to me why I own a 300 baud acoustically-coupled modem?
or does "acoustically-coupled" refer to something other than placing the handset in a receptacle on the modem?
Go to the site that has the search for which you want to create a keyword.
... it will prompt you with the save bookmark dialog .. there will be a box labeled 'keyword' - enter the keyword you want to use.
On that site, Right click the form field and choose 'Add a keyword for this search'
Once added, FF will allow you to use that keyword in exactly the way you described.
You can also add them manually, by mucking with the URL the way you describe, but this UI method allows you to do it and automatically creates the passable fields for you.