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Firefox 1.0 Released
New Here writes "November 9 has arrived and with it comes Firefox 1.0. According to its home page, Firefox empowers you to browse faster, more safely, and more efficiently than with any other browser. I'm New Here, but this Firefox does sound very promising! Firefox 1.0 is available now for Windows, Linux, and Mac from the mozilla.org ftp server."
Running 1.0 right now. Seems to work great!
No way really?
FoxyTunes is an amazing extension that allows you to control your music right from the browser,/
http://www.iosart.com/foxytunes/firefox
Adblock filters out any unwanted advertisements,
http://adblock.mozdev.org/
And many many more!!!
Mozilla.org is really getting hammered. Try waiting a few hours for the mirrors to update.
Here is a Google cache of the Firefox Mirror List.
I've managed to download a copy and order a t-shirt and the site isn't slashdotted yet. What are you all asleep or something?
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Torrents mirrored here: http://firefoxfah.sourceforge.net/fftorrent.html
Why should I switch from Mozilla to Firefox?
Mirrors:
s es/1.0 a ses/1.0/ e fox/releases/ / releases/1.0/ i refox/releases/
l eases/1.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%201.0.exe.to rrent
http://64.12.168.21/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/relea
http://207.200.85.49/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rele
http://trillian.cc.gatech.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fir
http://mozilla.osuosl.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox
http://mozilla.ussg.indiana.edu/pub/mozilla.org/f
Official Torrent:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/re
http://almostsmart.com
Hey,
Anyone got a scan of the Ad in the New York times? My name is in there as I sponsored.
Want to thank again the folks at Mozilla for making Firefox. Great Job!
Thanks!
Got it 5 hours ago.
The new homepage points to http://www.google.com/firefox. Fire your conspiracy theories at will...
0daymeme.com: Great stuff.
I'm in New Zealand - got it already and running it happily. It's my birthday, I've just been playing Halo 2, Firefox is out, and today I'm buying a house. Things can't get much better :)
..last week! everyone should jump on this bandwagon too. A pity we weren't voting for browsers last week
It was already running incredibly slowly BEFORE slashdot posted the article.
--- Ãther SPOON!
Your extensions will be disabled unless they are configured as compatible with 1.0. Unfortunately right now trying to use the built in "search for updates" feature is very slow, from server load I presume. I found updates for several of my favorites by searching http://www.mozdev.org/.
Or at least I hope so, even if IE fights back a tiny ammount we'll see a huge lot of improvements in the web generally, IE is so often the 'lowest common denominator' when it comes to designing for the web.
But for usability and speed of use I'd go with Firefox any day.
Since the initial inception, I have been a user of this browser, and I have used every release, and many nightlies inbetween. I have tried other browser, but I have always returned.
So it's a great day that it's not release as 1.0
Yay!
Jason Lotito
well done Mozilla on a fantastic milestone. If you can achive soooo much at version 1.0 - imagine what you can get by the giddy heights of version 6.01 of IE ? :)
Get everyone you know onto this ASAP! The sooner we can rid the word of poor quality non-conforming and insecure browsers the better the www will be for all....!
before it gets hammered too badly:
linux i686 torrent
win32 torrent
(both EN-US).
For now, at least: ftpmoz.newaol.com/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases /1.0/
Anyone know if the New York Times ad went through? Is it available to view anywhere?
You sure can't beat that OS built-in goodness.
Yummy
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They don't need to learn. At least that's their take on it. They include the browser with the OS. How many people who arent geeks like us will spend the time to download another browser and learn how to integrate it with their os - cuz we all know MS does not make that an easy task.. "Internet Explorer is no longer your default browser? Should I notify the FBI?!?!" etc.
Don't Tread on Me
New browser takes on Microsoft. Pretty fair coverage IMHO.
An Indian-American Hindu committed to non-violent thought/speech/action alarmed by the global explosion of radical Islam
New Here writes "November 9 has arrived...
...
:)
I'm New Here, but this Firefox does sound very promising!
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Made me chuckle. I wonder how many people got it
Sailors. Oh man!
For the Europeans: http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/
Donkey:
OS X Will rule this world
Windows Exe
tar.gz
I will work to elevate you, just enough to bring you down
I installed 1.0 on my Compaq laptop, and I'm a bit dissapointed. Firefox starts, but then immediately freezes. The problem is not there in 0.9.1.
Anyone else has this problem? I can't convince the folks here at work to switch away from IE if my firefox doesn't work.
I reckon it's some old extensions/profiles/what-have-we, but I've uninstalled firefox completely (and used google desktop search to remove all files that has the words "firefox" or "mozilla" in them) and still - if I install 1.0 again, the same problem appears. It launches fine, but when I try to do anything, it freezes.
Underholdning.info
ftp://mozilla.isc.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rele ases/1.0/ r efox/releases/1.0/ e fox/releases/1.0/ e ases/1.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%201.0.exe.tor rent
ftp://mozilla.ussg.indiana.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fi
ftp://mozilla.oregonstate.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fir
Official mozilla.org torrent for Win32:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rel
When the Grauniad and the BBC report this story hours before it appears on Slashdot, you know something's wrong with the world.
The Fedora 3 release would beat this to /.
(end of boring post)
-- Mod me down. I am not a karma tart. ffs,gag
Its a bit frustrating the Website Content is still old (as always). The download Javascript Tool points still to Firefox 1.0PR since months :-/
btw: I don't like the current Website. Its difficult to find more specific information about other Mozilla Projects.
anywhere?
Linux
firefox-1.0.installer.tar.gz.torrent
firefox-1.0.tar.gz.torrent
Windows
Firefox Setup 1.0.exe.torrent
Firefox 1.0.zip.torrent
Mac
Full download no torrent available
See the bbc story
Nice to see Firefox is getting the press it deserves
Jaj
Bad form to reply to my own post, but some more useful links here:
Windows torrent and executable.
Linux torrents for installer and tarball.
Congrats!
I've posted some more interesting news and Mozilla developer blog links and a screenshot of the new Firefox Google search interface on my blog:
inside aebrahim's head - firefox 1.0 is here!
longer if you get the torrent (win32).
This one for Linux.
Well I'm reading this in Firefox 1.0 and it *still* doesn't like slashdot's code. It still occasionally renders the comments overlapping the left hand menu and it initially rendered this "post comment" screen double width - with the left hand menu titles taking up my entire screen. I haven't encountered any problems with any other sites, so I expect it's just slashdots dubious HTML that's confusing firefox. Mind you I hate to admit that I've never seen IE mis-render slashdot.
Has anyone else seen Firefox render slashdot incorrectly?
It can usually be fixed with a simple click of the reload button (F5).
Next desire, native SVG support so FireFox wins the enterprise space before Longhorn even gets to market.
We have two years.
Please make sure that you uninstall any previous Firefox version before installing FireFox 1.0, as it could create some problems with the older version. Just trying to help out fellow slashdotters and hoping in the process that someone would dump some mod points on me.
No wonder I can't get the latest Thunderbird.
Mozilla.org doesn't respond, so I check slashdot. Sure enough..
You KNOW they're going to get a file, why not just link to a torrent?
"I can't give you a brain, so I'll give you a diploma" - The Great Oz (blatently stolen sig)
but it's all in French... (Le File, L'Edit...)
If you don't know what AltaVista is (was), get off my lawn.
For an open source browser, this is having a fairly major impact on society at large. As a case in point, The Guardian (the UKs major left leaning / liberal newspaper) had a major editorial on the subject today, which can be read here (in today's print edition as well as online)
As a longtime corporate Linux user, I have to say that nothing has made this more possible than having a good OS browser such as Mozilla and Firefox, kudos to both.
Just installed in an hour ago. While everything looks nice and polished, unfortunately the Slashdot rendering bug is still present :(
They did backport some support for IE-only JavaScript features from the 1.8 branch though (but that was also in the RC's, I think).
Thought I would help the cause...Win32 zip torrent
http://www.jiggybyte.com/dl/FireFox10.torrent
It either times out (95% of the time) or gives me a message saying that there are no updates available. Given the latter message, I gather that I'll probably have to update manually. It's really no biggie but it would be nice if they made the "auto update" thing work. I have a bunch of 1.0 PRs running here (as in three or four dozen or so) and it would be nice to not have to roll out the update myself. (Disclaimer: I don't really maintain these machines. This is just volunteer work. I know how to do centralized software rollouts but these are not my machines.)
Ha-ha. I LOVE YOU MAN!
Damn that was funny...
I start-up firefox so seldomly (always open, never turned off) that I never bothered to change my homepage from default. I had to start it a few minutes ago, and it came up with a blank page...waiting...
ding! November 9th. Slashdot still works, first article? Mozilla 1.0 released, mozilla.org getting hammered.
The BBC now has an article on this.
Obviously so do lots of other sites
There seem to be a lot of FireFox related articles on slashdot and after the release of 1.0 it will only increase. So how about a new FireFox topic in the submit stories section of slashdot with the cool looking FireFox logo?
"How many people who arent geeks like us will spend the time to download another browser and learn how to integrate it with their os"
Easy. I do it for every computer I come in contact with (since everyone loves to bug me to fix their computers). Simply download firefox, set it as the default, and put it where ever the IE icon used to be.
The best part is, most of them don't know the difference.
The Europe site of Mozilla.org seems to work fast:
/ releases/1.0/
http://ftp.eu.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox
Help out grassroots advocacy for Firefox @ Spread Firefox. This is the community that organised the NYTimes add.
The site seems to be down so here is the Google cache and the Corel link.
Not that I understand why anyone *wouldn't* want the search box (not actually related to google, it's just a search box that can access several differet search engines) but it's easy to remove:
1) Right click on it
2) Select Customize
3) Drag the search box off the toolbar onto the dialog.
Simple and takes less time than posting a mindless rant on slashdot.
Well, you can get Mozilla, although that's even worse in terms of built-in features. You don't have to use the search bar in Firefox (although it's damn handy - having 20 different targets, from wikipedia.org to google.com, is a great way to set up your browser.) In fact, you can remove the search bar completely, by customizing your browser layout.
Thats all well and good for those lucky enough to have someone like us in their lives. I also do the same for the likes of my mother in law, sister in law, etc. However, how many more of them are out there that don't know one of us, or are unwilling to try something new? I say many. Too many.
Don't Tread on Me
What are the top 10 reasons to use FF over IE? I'll start:
1. Security
Any really good arguments here?
2. Standards
Open standards ensure that independent vendors can compete on fair grounds. The W3C is the de facto standards body for internet standards. Firefox is implemented from the ground up based on those standards. Standard compliant websites will show in any browsers (on any platform) that also complies to the standards, and not just in a specific browser with its own standard.
3. Extensibility
Different users have different needs. For most, the normal Firefox distribution has all required features. For some, a specific extra feature is of considerable value. Firefox has support for plugin's, which is small custom components of code that can deliver near any functionality.
4. Reliability
In firefox, what you see is what you get. No hidden agendas, no spy-ware installing behind your back.
5. Comfort
Do you remember how the internet was a few years back when there were no annoying pop-up's and you didn't have to worry about spyware installing on your machine behind your back? With Firefox, you can once again realize that blissful sensation of using the Internet.
6. Continuity
Firefox is not going to stop innovating at 1.0 or whenever it has market dominance. Firefox is here to stay, and to keep evolving.
7. Slickness
Firefox has stunning looks and sleek controls. You can download a theme with a few clicks, or you can create your own. Firefox is hot, Internet Explorer is not.
8. For the people, by the people
Microsoft is not your friend. Firefox, like much open source software, is built for the people, by the people. You'll find that Firefox is surrounded by an enthusiastic community of supporters, not big business. Firefox, like other Open Source Software, is built, maintained and supported by people who believe in sharing, cooperation, and community.
9. ?
10.?
Unable to read configuration file '/bigassraid/htdig//conf/14229.conf'
Geocrawler error message.
If you download one of the nightly builds, you'll see it's actually fixed in the "trunk," but not in the "branch" 1.0 came from, because it apparently caused too many other flaky reactions.
bug 264913
bug 217527
The good news is that Slashdot WORKS again in the nightlies. If you really want, you can grab a nightly build here and check it out for yourself. They are generally pretty stable, but thy sometimes f with your extensions.
Skip straight to Thunderbird on Mozilla's FTP server then ;)
:)
What about the automobile? You only use it to get from one place to another right? Doesn't matter what it looks like, how it runs, if the locks work, etc.
I think the reason people care is that its the app used for hours and hours every day. At least i do for work, and for fun. Anything people use that much, they notice all the little things (along w/big things), and often want to improve or customize.
Is this browser compatible with banking sites?
What do servers see this browser as? (Netscape?)
Is it really faster than Safari in Mac OS X?
Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
You mean, they should all get together and make themselves equal in size? :-)
Or was that meant to be, "commence?"
ObOnTopicComment: Yes, Firefox is darned good. You should try it.
Unfortunately Firefox 1 also comes with a number of 'improvements' that are rather dubious. The two that I personally dislike are:
/ Or chidaceae_coauthoring.htm
1. The 'default plugin' which used to be a dynamic library called something like 'libnullplugin.so' is now statically linked in, which means that you can't just remove it. What it does is nag the you every bloody time you go to a page that wants to display something that requires a plugin; these plugins are used intensively in adverts, which is why I don't have them.
2. There has always been a way to search in the displayed page - go to 'Edit -> Find in This Page' in the menu, or press CtlF. In earlier versions you had to press the 'Find Next' button in the search dialog in order to start the search. In Firefox 1.0 the search happens as you type. Some people like it, apparently, but to me it is incredibly disruptive. There are situations where you definitely don't want this functionality; one such is if you, like me, feel it hard to concentrate on the dialog box when the background moves. Another, rather lengthy example is the following:
Assume that you work with a big text that contains a large number of complicated words, like eg (WARNING: its huge):
http://flora.huh.harvard.edu/china/mss/volume25
This is a botanical text about orchids in China, and it is full of exotic names. Let's say that you have found 'Hemipilia kwangsiensis', and you want to find other occurrences of 'kwangsiensis'. If you are like me, you press CtlF, type the word (none of this mouse stuff for me if I can avoid it) and press [Return]. Except that the wods you are looking for disappears as soon as you start typing, and now you have the problem of finding the original place in a text of about 900 pages printed. And all that just to be cool. It would definitely have been nice with an option that could turn it off.
Apart from that it is a good browser; definitely better than IE. I can recommend v.0.9
It 's shame !
Don't be fooled ! Why you must keep Internet Explorer at all cost
Ploum.net.
I don't understand why Mozilla is ignoring the suite. It's a great product and is widely used. I personally have been seriously using the suite since about 0.6 and I can't understand why everyone's gone against it. If you have even 256 MB RAM it's fast. Yes it does take longer than IE to load up, but I start up Moz when I start my PC and don't close it until I shut down.
I think it's sad the development of the suite has really slowed now.
reuters article: http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=internet News&storyID=6755158
I'm new here. How do you post a comment without replying to a comment? I couldn't seem to figure it out. Thanks.
Some of us require browsers for work - web developers, researchers, IT people. Firefox contributes GREATLY to producitivity: tabbed browsing with middle click background-opening is unmatched in IE. It makes google'ing 10 times faster.
Plus, it's so much easier as an IT manager, because IE is a friggin magnet for shit - people end up with so much junk on their computer that DOES come from IE. Exploits are written for IE, and IE is more flawed than any other browser and the security fixes take longer than any other browser.
Maybe you SHOULD care!
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Text only Donkey:
OS X:
ed2k://|file|Firefox%201.0.dmg.gz|9058286|963
Linux:
ed2k://|file|firefox-1.0.installer.tar.
Win:
ed2k://|file|Firefox%20Setup%201.0.exe|49
I will work to elevate you, just enough to bring you down
According to the front page of mozilla.org, Firefox 1.0 was released on the 8th. Lucky for me I got it before the BBC and Slashdot noticed.....
Suuuuure, first install the spyware you didn't want in the first place because it came attached to this neato program, then uninstall the spyware. Riiiiight.
I tell ya what, I'll just mindlessly skip installing the neato program.
The Mozilla/Firefox folks have forgotten why most of us switched to Moz/Fire in the first place: we wanted a simple browser that didn't have all those plug-ins that IE had, and could block images and popups.
And if I want to search the internet using Google, I'll type in www.google.com in the address box!
Mozilla.org was already suffering. Article on the front page of BBC News Tech section as well as millions of firefox 1.0 pre users who haven't changed their start page from mozilla.org.
Try to remove your old profile. You can export your bookmarks first and reimport them later on.
... and you find
a bunch of unrelated tiny urls!
Anyone got any idea why ?
Also if you search from firefox - you get a different page from Internet Explorer. Check out the firefox url for the above search.
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Please people, use the mirrors or the mozilla.org ftp redirect. The plugin finder is suffering from the slashdotting and massive surge in traffic. We don't want to drive people away as the first thing they experience is problems finding/updating their extensions/themes.
l eases/
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/re
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We'll have to agree to disagree on the damn Google bar; I'll call it unnecessary fluff, you can call it handy.
I am a Firefox uses since it was 0.3. I am sorry to say but the update to 1.0 was a downgrade.
:-(
:-( Maybe they fixed it on the 1.0 release.
Middle click doesn't work any more. Most of my extensions are disabled. I might revert back to 0.8
By the way, does anyone know if they fixed the long standing Mac OS X bug with middle clicking ? Middle click "Open in new tab" option is the central feature of FireFox and it is not working on Mac. What a shame.
Spyware? What spyware? That's not the google search bar, it's just a text box that accepts input and sends it to google (or yahoo,amazon,dictionary.com, ebay or creative commons, depending on what option you choose) as a search query.
Congratulations!
Here's to an excellent release that shows what the power of open source and community effort can really accomplish. Well done!
Using the executable installer to install to the path of my existing Firefox installation (PR1) resulted in the browser's shell completely flaking out when the browser was eventually launched. No start page would load. The Bookmarks menu was empty (clicking on Manage Bookmarks and then returning to the Bookmarks menu solved this). Visiting web pages didn't seem to affect the interface whatsoever (i.e.: no active back button, no loading page animation, no updating of location bar, etc.). In general, the shell seemed disconnected from the application itself.
A normal uninstall, followed by a re-install did not solve the problem. Files were left in the install directory and, when prompted, I chose to wipe out the entire directory. Only after performing a complete uninstall (completely deleting the install path, but preserving the profiles) and reinstalling did Firefox work properly. Your mileage may vary, but I hope this isn't a widespread problem, as a 1.0 release isn't the time for screwups like this.
Might I have been doing something wrong? Installing a new version to the old path seems to be a a well-supported idiom, as I've been doing that for ages without problems with all manners of programs.
Is to /. their servers! Go team!
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Anyone who's installed 1.0 will have noticed that Firefox is now using a start page hosted by Google. But you'll be glad to know that if you don't use google.com because you'd rather use Google in your own language or perhaps you like the option to easily search sites in your own country, then you can easily change the start page so that it uses a start page designed for your country by just appending /firefox to the normal address of your preferred Google home page:
For instance, if you're in the UK, set your start page to:
http://www.google.co.uk/firefox
Or if you're in France:
http://www.google.fr/firefox
Apologies for the repost, but it seems this will be noted over and over again:
If you download one of the nightly builds, you'll see it's actually fixed in the "trunk," but not in the "branch" 1.0 came from, because it apparently caused too many other flaky reactions.
bug 264913
bug 217527
The good news is that Slashdot WORKS again in the nightlies. If you really want, you can grab a nightly build here and check it out for yourself. They are generally pretty stable, but thy sometimes f with your extensions.
I just installed Firefox today, and being a Mozilla user there's one thing that firefox doesn't do that mozilla does that I've grown accustomed with.
In Mozilla, you could hide the sidebar by clicking in the middle of the edge of the sidebar. In Firefox they removed that and now to close the bar you have to click on the X
similar to how IE handles them. It also seems that you cannot merge sidebars, such as the history and favorites, so you can't view them both at the same time.
Is there a theme or a way to return that functionality in firefox short of rewriting the whole thing?
In Soviet Russia, Trojan exploits YOU!
just FYI: the DNS entry for ftp.mozilla.org hsa several IP Adresses all around (the world), so just using ftp.mozilla.org will get you a random mirror
The IP adresses are (if you want a specific mirror): 207.200.85.49, 64.12.168.21, 64.12.168.243, 130.207.108.135, 131.188.3.71, 140.211.166.134, 156.56.247.196, 204.152.184.113, 207.12,6.111.216,207.126.111.217, 207.126.111.218, 207.126.111.219, 207.126.111.220, 207.126.111.221, 207.126.111.222, 207.126.111.223, 207.126.111.224
Ok, so 1.0 is out. I guess that means that the feature freeze is over, and focus will switch to development again. This is good.
Personally, I am all for making it cleaner, leaner and faster. Browsing speed has improved since it forked from Mozilla, but there's still room for more improvement. Also, it crashes once in a while, takes a long time to launch, and eats a fair bit of memory. Keep up the good work, and make it even better.
One idea would be to modularize more aggressively. I would imagine that splitting off JavaScript and XUL support can reduce the footprint quite a bit. Configuration, bookmarks, history, password management, etc. could probably go in a separate module, too.
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
-- Serge K. Keller
Haven't used firefox for a while (last one was 0.7), but has that utterly annoying 'feature' with the profile selection window (that appears when you already have a firefox window open and try to open another one from your menu) finally been kicked out by default?
I know that with some scripts (there are about 397 versions of it, and just a few work nicely), you can get rid of it. But this schould be turned of by default.
Firefox 1.0 and Halo2 all in one day? What more could a geek want?
Now if only some kind soul would build it for Mac OS 9... I could use it at work too.
it's a good thing, because it means there is a lot of interest. If even 1/4 of the people who haven't heard about it before that visit the site try firefox and 1/4 of those keep it, it will still be a nice big boost for firefox and a bigger papercut to IE. now if I can just get them to use it at work...
I have nothing witty to fill this space with yet.
Lucky?
I guess that depends on whether you consider having someone who installs software on your machine and replaces your defaults without your knowledge a good thing. I sure don't.
Not everything is analogous to cars. Car analogies rarely work.
No it doesn't. The Googlebar is an extention you need to install.
It does come with a general search, that is usually set to Google by default. If you click on the little arrow you can search with Yahoo, Amazon and others. Choose "Add engine" and you can put just about any seatch engine in. It just does search not all the other stuff the Googlebar does.
IE has something similar, View > Explorer Bar > Search, unsuprisingly it uses MSN and isn't as easy to change. I'm pretty sure you will find Mozilla, Opera and Safari have a search function somewhere too.
This isn't 'fluff' it is a standard part of any modern browser. If you really hate it, just use customise to remove it.
The torrent is available on their ftp server in the same directory. I just downloaded the browser in mere seconds.
I Don't Work Here
IE is so often the 'lowest common denominator' when it comes to designing for the web.
Would that IE actually was a common denominator (as well as the distinction of being the least as Netscape 4 has fallen by the way.)
Now that W3C standards have settled in for several years, it's tragic that the IE math offers "40" as a common denominator to 2003.
"Provided by the management for your protection."
It seems Google and Firefox developers really have some grey matter. For a long time Microsoft's strategy has been to use one of its existing monopoly in a market to monopolize another market - Browser, Search Engine, E-mail, Server, You name it. The thing is that all of its program depend on one another - or as Microsoft would have loved to put it, "integrate" with one another. The only way for Microsoft Competitors to compete against Microsoft is to unite - an Office Suite provider can team with a graphics software provider, a server side software provider can team up with a client side software provider, or in this case, a search engine can team up with a Browser. But, Microsoft still has a monopoly in the desktop market and it can use/abuse it to gain marketshare in the search engine and browser fields. So now if Google/Firefox want to make sure they dont't just disappear they have to team up with other desktops like Mac or the open source desktops like KDE/GNOME. Anyway, this looks like an intelligent move by both Google and Firefox. Now google can get a share of Firefox's (increasing number of) users and Firefox will great (customized for Firefox) start page by Google to attract new users.
That reminds me. Anyone know what happened with the NYT full-page ad? Wasn't it supposed to be in today?
Not everything is analogous to cars. Car analogies rarely work.
I'm asking because I honestly don't know--I'm at work, and we only use IE here, but at home I could swear I downloaded Firefox 1.0 quite a while ago. What is new with this one that the last one I downloaded doesn't have? I know that when I upgraded to 1.0 way back when, yes, all my extensions had to be re-installed . . . what the heck am I missing?
Happy goldfish bowl to you.
Hey, is it just me, or are the download links at http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ not updated yet? Still pointing to the 1.0PR...
Anyway, it's great that 1.0 is out.
"Oh, a lesson in not changing history from Mr I'm-my-own-Grandpa." - Dr Hubert Farnsworth
Here are the Moox cpu-optimized builds for windows (I've been using these since 0.9.3, and they seem significantly faster on my Athlon XP).
Enjoy
"When a ball dreams, it dreams it's a frisbee"
No, I'm Some Kind Of Record.
Are you geeky enough to attend your local BarCamp??
9. Price
Firefox is free! Free to download, free to share. It is being provided by a not-for-profit organization.
Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.
I was wondering that, because it doesn't happen at home. At work I have a 2 megabit uncontended leased line and a very fast 3Ghz PC... Home is just a 512k/bit ADSL and an old Athlon 800.
http://almaren.ch/download/firefox-1.0/
http://publipress.com/download/firefox-1.0/
The various versions and locales are slowly trickling in.
(Yes, it's my Official Kharma Whoring Day...)
-- Serge K. Keller
Finish your coffee, you'll feel better.
I don't know what 9 should be, but 10 should be "Profit!"
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
I moved from Netscape to Opera to Firefox, and am now considering moving back to Opera. Mouse Gestures under Opera were extremely fast and the keyboard shortcuts for common functions were excellent. I've installed the comparable extensions for Firefox, but it's just slower...
AnimeNEXT anime convention
They are all probably playing Halo 2. I think the delay can be forgiven on this particular day...
"Empathise with stupidity, and you're halfway to thinking like an idiot." - Iain M. Banks
Just uncheck Tools/Options/Advanced/Tabbed Browsing/Select new tabs opened from links.
:)
(For Linux it's Edit/Preferences instead of Tools/Options)
Or, go to the url "about:config", filter for "tab", and go crazy.
browser.tabs.loadBookmarksInBackground
I've just spent several minutes searching in vain for who designed the Firefox/Thunderbird logos. I think they're absolutely amazing, and whoever did it deserves huge props as well. Anyone know who did 'em?
Just copy the NPSVG3 files (.dll and .zip) into the Mozilla plugin directory from wherever Adobe installs them using their SVG viewer install program and you are good to go.
IF the Browser Wars are back, which episode would this one be?
"A New Hope?" or Perhaps, "Return of the Competition"
DEAD DEAD DEAD DELETE ME
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/live-bookm arks.html
"Headlines from Slashdot (RSS ) and the BBC News (RSS ) displayed in the Bookmarks Sidebar. Clicking on a headline takes you right to the article."
Hm.. has anyone here tried reading /.'s feed using the Firefox rss reader? (the new integrated one, not Sage!)
Well, this is the page you get.
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...why do I need to update themes everytime a new point release of FireFox comes out? And why do themes need point releases? The last version of Qute I had that worked (for version 0.7 of FireFox I believe) is 2.1.3. Are themes really that complex to design that they need point relases or are the theme designers just trying to be kewl? This is a stupid problem that plagues FireFox and really should be addressed.
Open Firefox and put about:config in the address line.
Put app.extensions.version in the filter.
Change value from 1.0 to 0.10
Most, if not all, extensions that work in PR should work now.
Your extensions will have to be reactivated by right clicking on each extension and selecting Enable.
Use at your own risk...Lawyers make me say that...
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Right because if, by chance, it does cause a problem then a solution is only a 1 minute phone call away.
Certainly Firefox will prevent more problems than it would cause anyways.
Why does 'File | Quit' not work for me? Using the Linux version.
Well we don't neccesarily need to convert everyone, and there are those who will simply always prefer IE over Mozilla for whatever reason. The internet just needs a significant market share of more than ONE browser - espeically a standards complient one like Opera or Mozilla, etc.
If people really want their virus ridden browser, then that's fine - I just want enough market share to take the web back.
I don't have any problems connecting to the site with Firefox.
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The only problems I've seen firefox cause are not the fault of firefox, but of poor web design. Those web designers who don't bother to test their work on anything but IE. IMHO, if you are going to be doing web design for anything more then your own personal page, you need to have numerous browsers installed on your machine, and either physical boxes or VMware session to other OSes to test, test ,test. But I suppose that is lost to many.
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I understand your frustration, but what are you saying?! My God man, killing innocent people is not the answer!
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
This is probably a dumb question, but how difficult is it to migrate from Mozilla to Firefox? I'm running Mozilla 1.7.3 on WinXP, and quite happy, but I would like to play with Firefox's RSS support. Is migrating as easy as just installing Firefox, or should I uninstall Mozilla first? Will Firefox automagically find my Mozilla Bookmarks?
Thanks,
Better yet, I just change the target of the IE shortcut to point to Firefox.
Does this look like the face of concern?
I've compiled Firefox 1.0 preview a few times, but I always end up going back to 0.9.3. The main reason is I can't get the SpellBound extension to work. I use spell check a lot, especially when posting here. The new features in firefox 1.0 don't seem to outweigh the loss of my precious spell checker.
First of all, by default, you have to type '/' to activate the search as you find tool. Also, the Edit->Find features are still there. Type Control+F and the field will come up so you can type in whatever you want. And then you type in what you want, and then hit enter. Then to search again you can hit F3 or Control+G. So I really don't understand your gripe at all. If you want to change the search/find utility to automatically search as you type (meaning, no typing '/' first), then you can do that as well via Tools-Options->Advanced->Accessibility->2 nd Option.
So...I'm pretty sure I understood your post correctly, but it didn't make much sense, because you can still do CtrlF, F3 as you did before. That has not changed. If I'm wrong, then reply to this.
"Time is long and life is short, so begin to live while you still can." -EV
The German magazine Der Spiegel is covering this story. They praise Firefox for being quicker, lighter and for its ability to be configured by the individual. They also say that many IT security experts recomend Firefox over Explorer and think that it may become a real competitor to Explorer.
Firefox 1.0 steigt in den Ring (Firefox 1.0 Enters the Ring):
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,15
Easy. I do it for every computer I come in contact with (since everyone loves to bug me to fix their computers). Simply download firefox, set it as the default, and put it where ever the IE icon used to be.
same here, and combo it with thunderbird, decent A/V software and spyware and the number of people bugging me to clean their windows boxen out, has dropped significantly.
I've even stuck latest version(s)on my USB drive watch..
For the past few releases, I haven't been able to do anything Yahoo with Firefox. I've looked and looked but haven't been able to find anybody else who's having this problem. Both of my bosses, however, have the same problem. And this happens on my work and home computers, so it can't possibly be just me... can it?
For example, if I go to mail.yahoo.com, all I get is the Yahoo Mail logo on a white page. That's it!
Has anybody else had this problem, or know how to fix it?
checksums?
Just in case, it might be a good idea to provide a cached link.
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
Didn't read far enough down..
answer
Not everything is analogous to cars. Car analogies rarely work.
- Read the "Why Use Firefox?" document
- Go download Firefox and install it
- Use Firefox as you default browser for 5 days
- If, after 5 days, you're still not convinced that Firefox is the best browser there is, uninstall it and switch back
(From an original idea on Spread Firefox, but the site is -surprise!- currently unreachable)-- Serge K. Keller
How many people who arent geeks like us will spend the time to download another browser
Pretty much everyone I know, for a start. You don't need fancy marketing. You just ask them in a very normal tone of voice whether they've upgraded their browser already or still using the default one.
For those on slow connections, I just give them a CD, either a copy of The Open CD or something similiar. Just burn them a free virus scanner, Firefox, OpenOffice, a free Zip tool and some other useful things on a CD.
Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
9. XUL really rocks:
Have a look here: http://www.faser.net/mab/chrome/content/mab.xul
Look at his username... He's "New Here".
It's not wasting time, I'm educating myself.
The browser was written to disable plugins not specifically written for 1.0. The 1.0 release comes with a frozen extension protocol and they have to wipe the slate clean in terms of protocol standards. If they didn't do it, you'd still complain about a broken extension system supporting half-written extensions in Firefox.
I tell ya what, I'll just mindlessly skip installing the neato program.
I bet you won't have any problems there.
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1. Security
Any really good arguments here?
I'm not sure if you want arguments for or against Firefox, but its security track record is abysmal. There are still UI spoofing security holes relating to XUL, and some of these have been known about for a very long time. It was far worse off than Internet Explorer when it comes to unchecked buffers. Hole-for-hole, it's no better than Internet Explorer.
4. Reliability
They keep breaking themes and extensions every point release. That's unacceptable from an end-user's perspective.
About 2: The way you described it it's a reason to write standards conforming web pages, not a reason to use Firefox: What advantage do Firefox users have from the fact that standard conforming web pages (which they don't create, but browse) also show up in other browsers?
...). Whereas IE doesn't even fully implement CSS1.
No, the point to make is that standard conforming web pages display correctly in FireFox (well, as long as you don't hit the "slashdot bug"
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
... November 9 1989 was the day the Berlin Wall fell.
Just FYI.
And, to not omit anything, November 9 1938 was the day of the Reichskristallnacht.
"Oh, a lesson in not changing history from Mr I'm-my-own-Grandpa." - Dr Hubert Farnsworth
Most people I've done this with select Opera over Mozilla (although usually Thunderbird over M2), and they very rarely encounter sites that need IE (most sites that do seem to be on corporate intranets these days, not the public web), and so far none of them have complained about features lacking from Opera or Mozilla that are found in IE.
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for a freely downloadable piece of software?
Unfortunatelly, the fix for this bug (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9728 3) didn't make the 1.0 version.
It's been a thorn in my eye for ages. It's the bug that causes div's with an overflow:auto CSS property to not scroll with the keyboard or scrollwheel. As a webdeveloper who's trying to create nice pure-CSS pages it's really quite annoying.
The bug actually is fixed, but the fix wasn't included in the 1.0 release. Too much risk of breaking something in 1.0. You could always download a nightly binary of Mozilla Browser in which the bugfix is included (or at least it was the last time I downloaded a binary)
Too many extensions broke with the 1.0 PR's and now 1.0 final.
Early adoption is bad in this case if you are trying to be productive daily with it.
10.1 is the most compatible so far, fewest bugs and they took out some features I liked after 10.1 like the easy stylesheet switcher in the statusbar.
Install CDs for ISPs like AOL are prime candidates for carrying out an install Firefox.
Trouble is, Microsoft seems to know this and AOL have stuck with the IE engine.
In case it gets slashdotted, new features:
And improvements:
5. Comfort - YES!! I just reinstalled WinXP yesterday on a FAT32 partition in order to get Ubuntu and Windows to "play nice," and had to use IE to download a few things before reinstalling Firefox. When a popup appeared, I immediately said aloud: "What is *that*?" To which my friend replied, simply: "A popup." I love Firefox! :)
I am not an animal! I am something worse!
...this was pretty much everything done, final testing underway release. This is the actual, bona-fide, spread far and wide, it's finally 1.0, woohoo, etc. etc. release.
I am NaN
slashdot still doesn't render correctly. Still have to do ctrl+ ctrl-.
"...today consumers have been conditioned to think of beer when they see a bullfrog..."
I successfully grabbed a copy from here
Is GTK+ 1.x now completely unsupported on GNU/Linux? If not, are there any pre-built packages yet, official or not? Can't find any...
Something went very wrong between 0.9 and 1.0 final. I experience random page rendering errors, especially on pages that change frequently. See what I mean here. Only way to fix it is to Ctrl-+ and then Ctrl-- to get the page to show like it should. A minor bug, but very annoying, and a reason not to recommend Firefox to friends and family. Instead I tell them to download Mozilla which doesn't have this flaw.
Now if google would just hook us up and change one of those google o's into a firefox logo life would be really goood.
Got Code?
I'd tend to divide it up a little as some of your points are quite similar. From your post, I'd say that there are two key areas in which firefox is better:
1) Community philosophy (or, Thee Joye of Source)
Mozilla is open source, which IE isn't. This leads to the following benefits:
2) Standards-compliance
In no way is this equivalent to the project being open-source - FOSS developers can be just as bad at compliance as anyone else :) However, the Mozilla developers do not fall into that category. Benefits are as follows:
There are probably many others, and I doubt that this is a great summary, but a hierarchy of benefits is always more persuasive than a collection of 'anecdotal' improvements. Any suggestions?
For the love of God, please learn to spell "ridiculous"!!!
Is this an upgrade that will be detected and downloaded through the update system from within Firefox PR or do I have to download the whole thing again? Also will I have to re-do extensions [i]again[/i] between PR and 1.0 Final?
Thanks for any information provided.
Happy goldfish bowl to you.
Version 1.5.0 of the runtime kit is available. I am currently upgrading it so don't know whether there are any problems.
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Calm down man. It's a handy feature. And if you don't like it, just set a master password so that you have to authenticate before it dows you the passwords.
Dissolve... Resolve... Evolve...
The pre-release still had Preferences under Edit in the File Menu in the linux version while the Windows version had it under the Tools menu. Does the new release have the same irritating inconsistency?
gui toolkit?
You may as well take "standards" off that list---"your friends" probably don't care, and if they do, they're probably already running a non-IE browser.
If you can't see the value in jet powered ants you should turn in your nerd card. - Dunbal (464142)
I want the IM wars back... MSN Messenger 1.0 released w/ AIM support... AOL updates AIM protocol... MSNM releases patch to fix aim, AOL updates again, MSNM patched again, lather, rinse, repeat... (around '99,2000 if I rmemeber right)
120chars for a sig is teh suck
FF Default Home page?
Die, MSN, die!
The same might be true at some point for ThunderBird, but at the moment, KMail is just so far ahead of everything else that hurts. When that happens, though, Microsoft should be very, very afraid: If you don't need to care about the operating system anymore for 95 percent of the things you do, you don't need to pay all that money to actually buy one from them.
No, but for following the tradition in numbered Slashdot lists.
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
No I think it is your computer that is running like ass because I have only half the machine you got and
mine smokes.
Got Code?
Great, so mozilla.org is slashdotted. Anyone got any info on the new features in this release or is it purely a bugfix?
Everyone jump on the torrent... (remember that if you didn't use bittorrent to download you can still seed for others - http://dessent.net/btfaq/#seeding)
New options for controlling where links from other applications open.
Thank God! This (and the Slashdot rendering glitch) are the ONLY problems I have with Firefox. This one particularly bites me on OSX machines where you can't APPLE-TAB between multiple windows of one application. Anybody know if it's possible to turn that on?
Hot damn! I've been waiting for 1.0. Now that it's here, time to get EVERYBODY I know to install it!
Bryan
Anybody know if the resource leaks were fixed?
-]Phreak Out[-
Sadly being a web developer I end up designing for IE first and foremost because of the penetration, if it works in IE then (usually) it works ineverything else :)
Hopefully I can switch to Firefox all the time at some point, but it won't be for a good few years yet!
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This one is right at the hub of NYC. Big pipes.
http://www.friedneko.com/Firefox Setup 1.0.exe
This is not flamebait--I dislike Microsoft at least as much as most people here. But Firefox did not do, for me, what it claimed it was going to do. This is my experience, and this is what happened. And it's not what should have happened.
1. Security Any really good arguments here? My net admins won't allow it because there isn't a centralized patch server for Windows that handles Firefox/Mozilla updates. I'm not familiar enough with how MS does this, but they use SMS or SUS or something like that to download security updates and push them out to all the desktops. They don't want to depend on end-users updating clients.
Firefox needs the ability to mark certain web pages as IE only. For example, several in-house web-sites use IE's integrated authentication and are unusable in Firefox. If I could tag these webpages as IE only in Firefox, and have Firefox open that page in IE if I type it in the URL box, I would switch immediately.
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That's not the issue. I don't want people installing software on my machine and changing my system preferences without my consent. I doubt that you would either.
Not everything is analogous to cars. Car analogies rarely work.
Yeah, I know OS X has been out for 3 years, but we don't have it at work and I can't afford a new machine that can run OS X. Where's the love, people?
Given that someone on MSDN said that Microsoft is seriously looking at developing a new standalone version of Internet Explorer, don't be surprised that before 2004 ends Microsoft will announce the public beta of Internet Explorer 7.0.
If such a program does exist, I expect the following changes compared to IE 6.01 SP1:
1. Much tighter security.
2. Multi-level ad blocking (that includes blocking Flash and Shockwave animations in addition to pop-up and pop-under blocking).
3. Tabbed browsing.
4. Full Sidebar controls.
5. Totally redesigned toolbar.
6. Will only run in Windows 2000 and Windows XP.
I don't know about the others ... but i just can't live without the damn tabs anymore .. ;) goodbye window cluttering!... and 4 Mbs for a web browser! (even 8 mb in linux)
I fuse with Mercer every single day...
Now if they would just build a full GUI for all of the settings and lose the about:config crap maybe even more people would make the switch.
...it doesn't work at all. Just gives "Connecting to..." forever. I suspect this is a problem related to Authoxy, which protects me from the fnording intrusive password requests of our network. Too bad - I wanted to see if it would help with those one or two sites that Safari still can't handle, but I don't want to live without Authoxy.
Science fiction for grown-ups...
Dammit! I'm left with an empty bookmark folder and to my dismay, bookmarks.bak has also been overwritten after installing firefox 1.0. Be warned!!!
I agree, I've got a K6-2 500mhz with only 256mb RAM and firefox is nice and nimble.
Use F10 to activate Expose and select windows within the currently running app.
Bill Clinton: Pimp we can believe in. - The Shirt!!!
If you are going to do the big honking announcement thing you REALLY need to have bandwidth and/or an Akami contract in place ahead of time. Nothing kills enthusiasm like a timeout error, particularly among newcomers and non-technical types.
And if you can't afford that bandwidth, perhaps a staged rollout would have been better? Registered users first, then Slashdotters, then the big "announcement"?
sPh
Hmmm... I wonder why they didn't create a page using XUL, like this page:
Google XUL
This has become my new homepage in Firefox, although I wish it was centered...
Then you probably are not asking others to come over and fix your computer.
Of course I give them a choice: Use a Mozilla based browser or don't call me for computer help.
Just a Tuna in the Sea of Life
Jeez, wonder who pissed in his Post Toasties.
Ignorance is curable, stupid is forever.
The "profit" thing is from an episode of South Park. 1. Steal underpants 2. ? 3. Profit!
Giving them a choice is fine. Installing it without their permission is not.
Not everything is analogous to cars. Car analogies rarely work.
I have reinstalled FF. I uninstalled it because it seems to have a problem with multiple simultaneous downloads of tabbed pages. We will see how this version holds up. I can tell right away that this version is much faster. It seems to require less memery?
eat shiat and bark at the moon
Just in case you get modded troll and don't know why: Each single plugin is considered incompatible when a new version of Firefox is released until proven otherwise. I think you even have to change a setting in about:config in Firefox to even allow outdated plugins to run. This one didn't appear lucky enough to run still.
It would be cool if it didn't suck.
No problems detected here....
Can someone please post the md5sums of the official packages? In particular I'm looking for the one for the win32 installer, "Firefox Setup 1.0.exe".
+5 insightful, surely. He called me "fart knocking", fer crissakes.
Well, it's not hard to sort your bookmarks. Just click bookmarks, then manage bookmarks, and then right click on any link and select "sort by name". There's also a plugin called "sort bookmarks" that does this and more.
Regarding the importing of passwords, the mozilla site says:
"Firefox imports your existing settings from Internet Explorer. An import wizard will run when you first install Firefox (and is also available later through the File menu, File > Import), and it imports your Favorites, options, cookies, stored passwords, and a variety of other data. This saves you time customizing Firefox to fit your needs."
I haven't tried using this but if this didn't work as advertised for you then that is certainly a cause for concern.
If you don't like the spinning circle at the top you can simply install another theme that doesn't feature this. Right now the mozilla site is really slow so you probably won't be able to reach the themes site, so try later.
Personally I could not live without tabbed browsing so IE is no longer an option for me. Also there are plugins like Adblock (I use these filters) that make it indispensible for me.
Now if they would just build a full GUI for all of the settings and lose the about:config crap maybe even more people would make the switch.
Now if Microsoft would just build a full GUI for all of the settings and lose the regedit crap maybe even more Mac users would make the switch.
A lot of the settings available in about:config correspond to Windows Registry entries in HKEY_CURRENT_USER for IE.
No.
The plugin works fine, if you give it enough time to install.
The bug is that "half-installed" plugins can be accessed.
Also, the plugin used is a search engine, which are considered compatible across all versions.
Did I just say "I could not live without tabbed browsing"?
:)
Geez I need to get out more
Isn't the whole point behind auto update is that it does it for you, or it at least tells you that an update is available? It seems to me that auto update isn't working at all. I've gotten no notification of any kind on any of our boxes.
I don't respond to AC's.
...it is known that you have to backup your bookmarks in another place. I lost them quite often with a certain old release of Mozilla. It happened mostly when the program was exited illegally and thus trashed the bookmarks-file(s).
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ActiveX controls are the bane of the Web.
That said so are Flash animations and Java applets imho. And iframes... They don't work right in glinks. >.
Moll.
What you hear in the ear, preach from the rooftop Matthew 10.27b
The useful link :)e fox/central.html
http://www.mozilla.org.nyud.net:8090/products/fir
about me A - B
i don't recall reading anything that said FireFox would import your passwords. i could be wrong, though. you DO remember your passwords, don't you? if not, that's not firefox's fault, its your fault.
... i was all ready to write more, but those are you only two reasons you provide. its true, you really have no need to switch. you seem to like useful popup blocking, and tabbed browsing isn't what you'd call a desireable feature. incidentally my grandfather still shaves with a straight razor, still cuts himself every time he shaves, and thinks "those new fangled razors" aren't worth beans.
if you find that spinning circle of dots more annoying than the waving IE flag, well I just don't know how to respond to that, other than to say "change it" or "disable it". both are easy to do, disabling takes about 5 seconds.
progress just leaves some people behind i guess.
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the student/IT worker's best friend, Portable Firefox. Works great off of my USB keydrive. :D
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I've been a Mozilla user for years, and have been recommending either it or Firefox for users.
However, I seem to run into a lot of sites, particularly those heavily using Java, which will not render properly, if at all, on Mozilla.
Does anyone else have this problem, and what exactly causes it?
Proverbs 21:19
I've been using Firefox for a couple of months now. Used Netscape for years - yeah, I actually bought a shrink-wrapped version of Netscape, that included one year of free upgrades. Woo hoo! I use IE only for sites that I have to.
That said, I puked the other day when I surfed to my new ASP.NET hosted site and Firefox couldn't handle it! The layout was screwed up, the label colors and borders were wrong, etc.
Being a developer, I understand the need to handle different clients. But do I have to create a dumbed-down version of the site for Firefox users (myself being one of them)?
Does 1.0 handle ASP.NET better that previous versions?
-A_J
(Flame on, Slashdotters. I expect nothing less. And let me preempt the "learn php" or "learn XYZ" posts: I'd love to have the time to learn every language, platform, or whatever, that is out there - but I can't. I'm not an uber-geek (OMG, I used uber-, that is so last century) and cannot, no will not, spend all of my free time in front of a computer.)
Anyone have any clue as to why that might be?
Oh, and I've put a mirror up on my site. Download it here.
So...did they put their ad in the New York Times? Any links to scans / designs for it?
Kev
I certainly expect this to significantly increase adoption in commercial and educational institutions. Firefox can no longer live under the guise of being a "preview" to new technology. They've put their money where their mouth is, and now have a good browser to promote.
michael greene
If you are a regular Slashdot surfer, you might want to check out my extension, SlashFix which fixes the very annoying Slashdot rendering errors in the Firefox 1.0 branch.
These errors are fixed in the Mozilla trunk source code, but for apparently sound reasons, the developers didn't want to check the fixes into the 1.0 branch, apparently because they caused problems with some other, unnamed web sites. SlashFix is a good interim solution so you don't feel compelled to start up IE just to surf your favorite geek time-waste.
"I guess that depends on whether you consider having someone who installs software on your machine and replaces your defaults without your knowledge a good thing. I sure don't."
Sounds pretty trollish, but I'll bite.
Say you see a little baby hitting him/herself in the head with a wooden bat and you just happen to have a nice soft rubber bat, what do you do? Duh, you swap bats. The baby won't notice, and less concussions will ensue. (Granted, if you see babies hitting themselves in the head with a wooden bat, you have bigger problems on your hands.)
Believe it or not, the average person doesn't give a flying fsck what browser is installed on their computer as long as it works. Are they motivated enough to replace their defaults or do they even know how to? No.
Do the right thing and give them a rubber bat!
If you haven't tried bittorrent yet, ask google where to find a client and use it.
The firefox download took only about 5 sec for me and I didn't have to click through multiple mirrors to find one that would respond.
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Cognitive Overflow
more than yo
That's going to make for so much fun when they're calling their ISP or their bank or what have you because there is a problem, and they INSIST that they are using IE. Believe it or not, there are still sites that WILL not work with Firefox - i.e. Verizon Wireless's bill pay.
You're making your users look even more stupid than they are, and you're taking away their choice. Isn't having the right to choose which software you are using a big part of the reason people choose Firefox and other free software?
Denver Isuzu Suzuki
No you are incorrect. You change the value TO 0.10 so that extentions will be fooled into thinking that you are running version 0.10 and not the new 1.0.
Firefox preview was version 0.10
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Ctrl+F seems to be broken in that case. It always does 'find as you type' even if that functionality is disabled.
I'm sure 0.9 didn't do this. It's going to make find a real bitch to use.
Buddy you are COMPLETELY missing the point. If I get called to someones house to fix their computer there is a certain understanding that I will do what it takes to get the job done. The person trusts me to do my job and not hose their system. If I make any major changes its in everyones best interest for me to tell the person ... well I end up being called again right? ... I'm gonna do it period. Any geek who doesn't is out to make cash and thats NOT what I would call a trustworthy geek.
"Hey I installed a new browser..."
If I don't inform the user of what I have done
"Yo Dude what'd you do to my IE stuff???"
I think your taking it a bit far when you freak out over someone installing stuff on your computer. You Obviously look after your own computer and thats fine... you have the ability. What the rest of us here are talking about is the people who DON'T know any better and need our help. They usually have some "geek" that they trust and who is responsible to help them look after their system. I know I am the geek for at least a dozen or so people out there and while I do install things on their system its generally for their own good and my own peace of mind. If I can install some program that will prevent me from having to drive out to this persons house a week down the road
Mozilla Suite 1.7.3 = 15,800KB
Firefox v1.0 = 15,600KB
These are default installation, without any extensions or add-ons. Mozilla was installed with browser-only option. Process sizes gotten from Windows' Task Manager.
http://johnhaller.com/jh/mozilla/portable_firefox/
Great stuff!!
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70543
Exactly when the source was available, I installed the ebuild and it worked.
Is there any site where I can check the number of downloaded Firefoxes? If I'm not wrong, they planned to achieve 10milion downloads in first ten days. Thank you for advices
Firefox - l33test browser ever.
Language Pack XPI
Locale-switcher extension (updated for Firefox 1.0)
My server
My father has a home office and he's had the entire house wired with Cat5. The network has 4 macs, and depending on the moment, between 2-4 Windows PCs (2 laptops). Unfortunately, because of the way they're being used linux is not an option, but I don't allow IE or OE on the network here and Firefox and Thunderbird are the only open source programs that I allow. It's also the only open source software that I'm comfortable putting on other people's computers as well because they make the transition easy. I think we're going to see a waterfall effect for Firefox. I also think that when people do get a virus or an email worm, and they do see all the hassles that they cause, they're going to be open to a change in software. Firefox and Thunderbird are best of breed (although I still prefer safari) and it's gotten bad enough that that is going to make a major difference. That having been said, Firefox and Thunderbird are going to have to continue to improve because IE is going to improve now as well. Personally, I think this is going to be fun to watch and it would be great to see standards compliant web browsers start dominating the way they should.
--- Don't ever trust a woman until she's dead- B.B. King
Yes, it did not import my passwords, even though it claimed to do so. I just tried it a second time. As before, it claimed to import them but didn't. (If it's relevant, I'm running Windows98SE.) This is a time-consuming irritation (especially because I no longer remember my passwords, though of course, there are ways of signing in using new passwords with most systems). Of much more concern is trustworthiness: if Firefox does not meet these claims that it makes, what other problems are there?
Quick FYI/FAQ on MOOX's builds...
The website is here: http://moox.ws and the MOOX versions of the official builds are here: http://www.moox.ws/tech/mozilla/releasebuilds.htm
As for how these builds are different
1) Moox uses a number of compiler and linker optimizations to take advantage of specific CPU architecture features (see http://moox.ws/tech/mozilla/#Mdefs for details).
2) Moox uses a number of other source code changes developed himself and another builder that further optimize the source code - help with certain computations, alignments, image processing, etc.
3) Moox also adds in patches from bugzilla to enable features that are not yet in the source tree, stablize the builds further, and make the builds more user friendly.
Moox will also be releasing localized, language specific builds of the official Firefox 1.0 source beginning later this afternoon. He says he will localize all of the M builds into more than 25 different localizations. These will begin to be available after 5:30PM CST on 2004.11.09 according to a post in his forum (http://moox.ws/forum).
The big question is should I now switch from Opera? Or even should I download Firefox to try it and possibly compliment Opera?
I dunno, if Firefox is just a better, more secure and more usable IE/Netscape, I don't know what would I get. There was a comparision with Mozilla already in the thread, of course with IE too, but no mention of Opera. Can anyone "spread Firefox" for me? Do I need it as an Opera user?
Future Wiki -- If you don't think about the future, you cannot have one.
And thank you very much.
The problem with quotes on the internet, is that nobody bothers to check their veracity. -- Abraham Lincoln
Advocacy burn-out may have set in after the election and we are well into the Christmas shopping season, a higher priority for most readers than Firefox. I don't expect the add to have much impact.
With thanks to escaflo:
Moox Firefox 1.0 M1 (MMX) Torrent
Moox Firefox 1.0 M2 (SSE) Torrent
Moox Firefox 1.0 M3 (SSE2) Torrent
Use the torrents and save his bandwidth.
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It bugs me to no end because I use the dropdown history instead of some extra bookmarks. Never works the first time...
HEHEE...
:) :)
Think about it...
TONS of geeks downloading Firefox.
Each copy of Firefox has a live bookmark pointing to slashdot.
Slashdot's RSS news feed get's slashdotted and Cmdr. Taco goes nuts
Finally, this is what happened
I really wonder what the present download count is!
Find a job you like and you will never work a day in your life.
What's the use of burying the useful options that many users would want in a largely meaningless mess of power-user options? There are a hell of a lot of options in Firefox but mos users will never change any but the simplest. What does your mother want with a pipelining option for instance? about:config is a perfectly useable interface for the more esoteric options.
Why is anything anything?
You run OO.o on Mac OS X? How the hell did you get that to work outside of X11?
You have two hands and one brain, so always code twice as much as you think!
Linux torrent [mozilla.org]
Win32 torrent
Sorry, no Mac torrent available... but, for completeness, here's a direct link
Thanks to Space (13455), below, for pointing out the linux torrent.
#SickNotWeak
I just downloaded this MOOX build, the m3 version (I have a pentium 4). First off, I got it up and running, and I noticed my bookmarks werent working at all--you click on them and absolutely nothing happens. I then noticed that it had CHANGED my windows wallpaper with a solid bright GREEN image. I don't know wtf this build is doing messing with my wallpaper, but I'm going to reccommend against people downloading this.
XP is approaching a 60% market share overall and is probably far more dominant in the home market.
Website seems overloaded...but the coral link works. I just went there using it so the cache is updated.
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Ok, I agree. The OP was in the wrong. If you go to someone's house to fix their printer and you install Firefox then yea, that's out of line. Not what they asked for.
However, if they've got adware on their machine and they want that removed (and they always ask you to prevent it) then installing Firefox is within what they're asking you to do.
I was moreso replying to how I do thing and not how the OP worded it as being "any situation" he installs Firefox.
Actually, there's a much easier way. Browse Happy, formerly known as noIE, by the author of IE7.
The roots of education are bitter, but the fruit is sweet.
--Aristotle
What's this?!
I saw the news on slashdot, finished what I was doing at work, went home, fired up YaST, then Synaptic and neither has the 1.0 release yet.
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"Indians! We're doomed, Tonto!"
"What do you mean 'we', white man?"
10. Profit!
Can somebody post a quick +/- list for of Firefox for people who already use Mozilla. Is this essentially just getting the browser part by itself or are there reasons to switch?
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Libertarian response.
Constitution! God-given natural rights! Blah blah blah blah blah...
What benefit would one have for upgrading to Firefox 1.0 from 0.9.3? I just upgraded and I haven't noticed much of a difference, other than the fact that some of the extensions I use (e.g., All-in-One Gestures) no longer work in 1.0.
Having a smoking section in a public restaurant is like having a peeing section in a public swimming pool.
I'm with you on that one. KMail is way ahead of bee stings, whips and chains and Microsoft Outlook.
9. You can uninstall it if you don't want it.
10. It's not from Microsoft.
In Soviet America the banks rob you!
Read the EFF's Fair Use FAQ
Apple-` will switch between the windows of the active application.
Don't forget to hit your local MozParty. Parties are listed at http://www.openforce.com/mozparty2
I'll be hosting the one for New York City. Info for that one at http://www.openforce.com/mozparty2/?party=179
-- My childhood bathtoys were Toaster and Hairdryer
Kmail should be ported to windows I think. Killer App
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Out of the box , Firefox 1.0 does not have the "new tab" icon in the default toolbar - you have to add it. (Linux version)
A bit strange considering how "tabbed browsing" is one of the key features.
You insensitive clod! I'm using smoke signals to communicate with the people doing the signal fires on the peaks to the drum relay in the desert to the guy at the fort with the tin can and string hookup to the shared,village phone through a 110 baud acoustic coupler, in a cardboard house where they only get power 4 hours a day and phone service 4 hours a day, with no overlap. And sometimes corrupt policia take the few bits that get through!
Often, when I come across an interesting link, I just open it in a browser window or in a tab and place it minimized on my desktop somewhere; to be read at a later time when it's more convenient. When Mozilla or Firefox crash, which still happens too often, these "read for later" links are lost.
Joachim
People don't write Manifestos any more -- what's going on in this world? [Frank Zappa]
I seem to have some very wierd bugs in my Firefox I use win98 perhaps that's the case...
Links don`t open in new tabs as they should, that is a tab opens but it loads a blank page.
Adress bar seems constant to all tabs, (looking at this page I see the adress of my blog..)
Nothing in the status bar..
back/forward buttons broken. the only way to go back is using backspace.
Can't think of anything else now, but still creeppy...
./R My blog
"The W3C is the de facto standards body for internet standards."
:-) ) but when the intended meaning is exactly opposite the expressed meaning, I'll chime in.
No, the W3C is an *actual* standards body for Internet (Web, actually) standards. IE is the "de facto" standard browser, despite not being standards-compliant. Confusing? Indeed. Kinda like the early 1990s, when "alternative" music became meainstream.
I'm not normally this pedantic (here, anyway
PS: great post otherwise. I'll even flesh out point #1 for you, with Microsoft's help: "...an attacker could run programs on your computer while you view a Web page. This affects all computers with Internet Explorer installed (even if you don't run Internet Explorer as your Web browser [emphasis added])."
Dear Slashdot: next time you want to mess with the site, add a rich-text editor for comments.
Accoustic couplers are only 110 baud. When 300 baud modems with direct connection to a phone line became legal in the early 1980s it was great. With 110 you watch every character slowly spit out. You appreciated the breviety of the UNIX command line and the short command names (ls, cp, mv, ln, rm).
So, i guess Thunderbird 1.0 will be released later on? Is it 0.9 that's supposed to complement Firefox 1.0?
Simply not true, I use Firefox to pay my Verizon Wireless bills all the time and I ahve never had any troubles.
When life gives you lemons, you squeeze the lemon juice into your enemies eyes and steal his apples.
Just checking...
So far, my Mozilla T-shirt doesn't have any holes in it and it's thanks to me, one of the 732 141 programming contributors to the mozilla project, Freddy Pigglybits got a coke and a burger !
I've done my bit !
A slashdotting - you get the stick first and then the carrot !
I'm using Firefox 1.0 (MOOX M2) and the shortcut is ctrl+#
\m/
And example of releasing multiple builds would be the MAME group.
On my PIII,20 GB [ lots of free space ],64 MB RAM machine, firefox loads in 13 seconds.
I upgraed the RAM to 128 MB. Now it takes 10 seconds to load!
But the pages are faster though.
Why does yahoo do this
OpenOffice with X11: http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/ooo-osx_download s.html
God I love Firefox. The only damn thing that still doesn't work right are pages that require Java. They work much better on IE. The only time I launch IE is when I need to do some online banking.
iam on FF 0.9.2. to be honest.Not yet tried ver1.0.
But This page https://jobs.intel.com/jobs/jobs.iccw still loads with error ( text overlap ) in FF. Perfect in IE.:(
Why does yahoo do this
MOD PARENT UP!!!!
4. In some cases, an Acrobat file will cause FireFox/Mozilla to crash.
I reported the crashing more than a year ago in Firefox, and more than 2 years ago in Mozilla. Recent builds of Firefox have been worse.
In Firefox:
bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=222660
(Cut and paste the URL. Bugzilla doesn't like visits from Slashdot readers.)
10. Its the coolest browser to use.
Why does yahoo do this
Towards the end of installation it crashed and now when I launch firefox I get:
XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
Location: chrome://browser/content/browser.xul
Line Number 910, Column 33:
chromedir="&locale.dir;">
I used the internal auto update feature. I guess I'll uninstall and reinstall.
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
I have a question about adblock.Since Iam billed according to the amount of data I download,I ask this. ,but isnt displayed?
When I use adblock to block *.swf files, does it prevent it from getting downloaded or is it that it gets downloaded
Why does yahoo do this
Maybe they're all playing Halo 2?
Dear Slashdot: next time you want to mess with the site, add a rich-text editor for comments.
I would be one happy camper if the Konq/Safari team would switch to Gecko as their rendering engine.
We could consolidate our efforts and make XUL a standard.
CTRL-B for bookmarks and CTRL-H for history toggles either sidebar off/on. Who could ask for anything more?
Religion is the opium of the people. Evolution is the opium of scientists.
Firefox 1.0 is available now for Windows, Linux, and Mac
Why to people keep refering to the Mac like it's an operating system? Are people really that slow?
That line *should* read: Firefox 1.0 is available now for Windows, Linux, and OS X . That's right, there is more than one operating system for the Mac! "Mac" and "Mac OS X" are not interchangeable.
BeauHD. Worst editor since kdawson.
It may just be perception.
Even though I know that it may be faster, Firefox feels slower to me. Why? Well, I think it's because (flameproof suit on) it's not using native widgets. It's hard to measure how fast a web browser is at rendering pages, but it's easy to tell when menus don't pull down as fast as you're used to, or checkboxes wait just a little bit longer to show the check. With Firefox, these things run just a little slower than other programs. Result: Firefox feels slower than even other Gecko-based browsers, even though it might actually be faster at rendering pages.
(It also doesn't help that the interface looks different, too: menus, buttons, scrollbars, file dialogs, print preview, and so forth all look different than in my other apps. It feels almost like a flashback to Xlib days, when everybody *had* to write their own buttons, and that's not the impression you want to give if you're trying to sell a program based on its interface.)
It's a shame, since I really like some of Firefox's features.
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strike
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=129027&cid=10
Okay, a few problems with Firefox: 1.) some ad banners cause it to crash...hard (specifically interactive ads like Intel's new ones with the magnifying glass and Absolut Raspberry ads with the stupid color changing "confetti") 2.) http://www.ign.com/ does not load completely and just gives me broken Quictime logos. Who else has experienced these problems and what have you done to fix them?
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People often forget that Opera is not just a browser, but an entire Internet suite.
It has an email client too, which Gmail was modeled after! Yup, Google borrowed from Opera when they decided on how to handle mail.
It also has newsgroups support, and a chat client.
So Opera and Firefox aren't really alternatives to each other as such.
I recommend Opera for email, by the way. It has insanely fast searches, and it is very flexible since it isn't tied down by folders. It makes things very easy and convenient.
In the end, though, you decide what you need. I personally like Opera because the browser part is faster than anything else on my PC, plus it's very convenient to have everything in a small package instead of having to install features manually. And when I upgrade, everything continues working...
Clever signature text goes here.
Win XP SP2 warns you against installing it for this very reason. Please, someone at Mozilla.org, sign the release binary.
Only one of my firefox extensions survived the upgrade, I'm feeling severely handicapped...
I find myself thinking about going back to IE for a while... At least if I hadn't been rather well informed about how much Firefox is better.
Anyway, this is still a serious question for help, and I'd appreciate any informative answers.
I'm a dreamer, the world is my playpen. But hey, I'm a serious person, I can't dream all the time.
I've done it for eight family members, and two small businesses. I am directly responsible for about 40 people using Firefox.
Once you download and install it for them ... you would be surprised at how quickly they adapt (I haven't met a person yet who didn't love the tabs and popup blocking). Show them how easy it is to install and remove extentions.
All it takes is one "in the know" person per "circle of influence" to put some real critical mass into Firefox.
It's really not a "geek" browser. People just don't know that much about it. After a couple of days, it's really very user-friendly and it's a browser even a grandmother could love.
Does anyone know if Firefox works with user profiles in a Windows 2000/2003 terminal services deployment without bugs?
Uh... Firefox has only just come out of beta. You have to accept that things will get broken more oftern in beta software.
Go to the site that has the search for which you want to create a keyword.
... it will prompt you with the save bookmark dialog .. there will be a box labeled 'keyword' - enter the keyword you want to use.
On that site, Right click the form field and choose 'Add a keyword for this search'
Once added, FF will allow you to use that keyword in exactly the way you described.
You can also add them manually, by mucking with the URL the way you describe, but this UI method allows you to do it and automatically creates the passable fields for you.
Is it just me or did the quality of Firefox icon (that appears on a Windows desktop) get reduced? I'm looking at an older version of the icon and it seems much smoother and with more colors! This seems like a strange thing to change for a 1.0 release if it isn't just me.
-- Reality is for people who lack imagination.
1) More or fewer than IE?
2) What, you mean the beta point releases? You know, the ones that are BETA SOFTWARE? How shocking.
Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
not to be a ninny, but when are they going to fix the tabbed focus stealing bug? This is an extermely irritating and confusing bug that affects every user using tabs.
Agreed! Having Firefox open external links in a new tab rather than hijacking the current one is extremely convenient. That and sorting bookmarks were two features that seemed like no-brainers but took almost Firefox's entire lifespan to get implemented. Glad they made it :).
Rock over London, Rock on Chicago. Wheaties: Breakfast of Champions.
On three different computers, using the stored credit card function on their website using Firefox has failed. It simply routes the user back to the payment page.
If it had been one or even two, I could believe it. But it was three. I contacted Verizon and was told to clear my cookies, which still didn't fix it.
Denver Isuzu Suzuki
For them, point 8 doesn't matter at all. They don't see MS as evil because they don't pay attention and don't care.
These people also don't know what W3C is, and all that matters to them is that everything renders in IE because sites have to be IE compatible. If a site is W3C noncompliant - but renders correctly in IE and not in Firefox - whose problem is it? So point 2 won't win anyone either.
I'd say point 6 won't work either - since IE hasn't changed in 5 years, continuity is something they definitely have! The innovation angle could work, but not so well for the average user. Remember, they just want the internet to work. For them, the browser is the internet.
Points 3 and 7 are marginal. It will work for the Mac crowd, but the very reason that windows users use IE now is because they don't feel like screwing with their browser, either to get a new skin or a new plugin. IE supports the plugins that 99% of the population needs already.
Points 1,4,and 5 are the winners. Security, lack of spyware crap, and lack of popups. Pimp the hell out out these points. I'd also add tabbed browsing if you can show it to someone, also the native RSS support (though firefox could make that a lot cooler than it is in 1.0).
I'd keep the message short and simple, and tailored to the things that people hate about IE right now, and that services like Earthlink and finally AOL are starting to sell.
For what it's worth, I just converted two people this morning.
-Looking for a job as a materials chemist or multivariat
Oh yeah, and they told me that I should be using IE 6.0 or above. That tell you anything?
Denver Isuzu Suzuki
For some people, that may depend on who's weilding the whips & chains.
No dissention on the bee stings and Outlook.
Free Software: Like love, it grows best when given away.
This is too wierd. Last night I was hoping there was a stroy on FF so I could post and interesting thing I found on Google.
I was researching UK currency and wanted to see what I'd get from googling "1/-", which was a column header for "shilling" in a table I saw. The first result was Mozilla.org.
For kicks I decided to enter "#1" - to see who google thought was number one, ala sports cheering. Sure enough, Firefox was number 1.
If they're fixing their search results to coincide with 1.0, well, I'm not sure whether to laugh it off, be purist mad at them, or celebrate my favorite browser.
I sure as heck don't think it's a coincidence.
Stuff that matters.
I give them another choice:
I'll fix it once, and show you how to fix it (using AdAware and Spybot Search & Destroy) AND I'll show you a program that doesn't have these problems. In fact, I'll install it, and give you a 10 minute tutorial to boot.
There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.
Does this release support overflow-x and overflow-y?
Am I the only one who hates the "Information bar"? Whats the point in blocking an intrusive popup if the notification is also intrusive? What happened to the nice little notification in the status bar? At the very least it should have an option to close should I not care about the fact someone wants me to see a popup ad.
Mathematics is made of 50 percent formulas, 50 percent proofs, and 50 percent imagination.
I run Firefox on my Apple. Much better than Safari or IE. Though I don't even think they are supporting IE on Macintosh anymore.
-- "Life's not fair, but the root password helps."
Just in case you get modded troll
Hmm.. I just tried this "bug", (did you?)and it indeed crashes (My WinXP) Firefox. I don't know about any other platform, but...
THIS IS CLEARLY A BUG
It's clear the parent reply hasn't even bothered to read the submitted problem.
I personally gave up reporting Mozilla problems a year or so ago, due to the same "fuck you troll, ain't no bug, we can't be bothered to try it out - but it ain't no bug - couldn't possibly happen" attitude of Moz. developers.
*Cough* alpha-transparent PNG images not displayed properly? Impossible! Go fuck yourself neil[at]neilpearce.com - Lotsa abuse - Oh... Ah... Hmmm.... You seen this? - Errr... Shit! - Hmmm... Errr.. Fixed next release!
Let me ask maybe a dumb question:
I like Mozilla very much, it's a great browser and I'm very happy that it exists - thanks to all who have contributed!
I would use Firefox, but there is one thing I prefer in Mozilla: The URI field in the navigation bar allows to search for keywords by entering the keywords and pressing Tab and Enter. I don't like the seperate search field like it is in Firefox.
Might seem like a detail, but often the details count.
Since everything is programmable and extensible, please enlight me ignorant user, if there is a way to mimic that behaviour in Firefox.
And don't understand me wrong, it's great that Firefox exists. It's lightweight, a joy to install, and I will recommend it to every MSIE user.
For me, I will stick to the dinosaur.
You shouldn't need to keep restarting the application. Have you tried compacting your folders? You can compact a single folder by right-clicking on the folder and choosing "Compact this folder" or you can compact all folders from the File menu. I think part of what that does in IMAP accounts is clear out messages from the server that have been marked as deleted.
You also may want to take a closer look at the deletion options in the preferences. You can have things delete immediately, but I've found that sometimes it's still necessary to compact folders to really get the server to purge the messages. Give it a try.
Oh, and grab Thunderbird 0.9 if you haven't already. It just came out a few days ago.
Linux: 1.1 Gig Up
Windows: 54.7 Megs Up
Gig' Em
-Michael
Great! Works well.
I missed the feature in Firefox (it worked well in Mozilla)
I just downloaded it, I've been using Avant Browser, which also has pop-up blocking as well as flash blocking, ad blocking, and tabbed browsing. It runs on top of IE, so it more vulnerable, but the feature it has that I miss so far in Firefox is mouse gestures (right-click then left click to go back, vice versa to go forward). Does anyone know of a way to do this in Firefox?
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
I can assure(maybe unassure?) you that this is not the case.
This attitude is prevalent across many development areas.
Why?
Ego.
You have to have a significant ego level to think these things can be accomplished.
I have spent the last 5 and 1/2 years in testing and test lead positions and recognize that the level of confidence required the create software from nothing is huge.
The is just unprofessional. Not atypical, but very unprofessional.
Why not just press ctrl-T for a new tab? It take less than a quarter of a second, as opposed to the 3+ seconds that it would take to move your hands off the keyboard, move one hand over to the mouse, move the pointer up to the button, click it, then move your hand back to the keyboard.
Also, the OP wrote:
New experimental options for controlling where links in web pages open. To make these experimental options appear, set browser.tabs.showSingleWindowModePrefs to true in about:config.
Actually these were added in RC1, but apparantly due to bugs, they were made hidden in 1.0 and you have to do the about:config thing to show them.
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I run as a limited user. I ran Firefox as administrator, then I updated (using the built in updater) from that instance of FF. It seemed to bomb out (I got a warning that some updates could not be installed, but I think it was referring to the extensions that had no updates available). I then ran Firefox under my limited account and it is updated to 1.0.
Here is the torrent.
r el eases/1.0/source/firefox-1.0-source.tar.bz2.torren t
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/
Looks like you are going to have to compile it yourself.
Does it go on forever?
Yeah, but I do want to be notified, just quietly. Like an icon appearing in the status bar, like firefox used to have. That way if I am expecting something to happen I can check the status bar to see if it blocked a pop-up I wanted to see (the only possible reason I would want to be notified in the first place).
Mathematics is made of 50 percent formulas, 50 percent proofs, and 50 percent imagination.
Gah! That sounds like an abysmally bad idea. For all its other flaws, XUL is the very worst thing about Mozilla.
Making interfaces consistent throughout applications, across different platforms, is exactly backward. Interface is a lot of what a platform is, and needs to be consistent throughout the platform, across all of its applications. Inter-application consistency is more important than intra-application consistency.
Deciding that your application is more important than the platform is the hubris which causes people, quite correctly, to ignore your application.
Is there a Pango-enabled Firefox (Linux) version available for download anywhere?
Right click (on toolbar)>Customize>From the sheet, drag the "New Tab" button to an empty space on the toolbar. Viola!
Note, that this only allows you to have a New Tab button on the TOOLbar (not the TABbar), if you *must* have the New Tab button on the TABbar, the extension you want is called "Basics" and is available HERE.
I wonder if a preference for this is buried somewhere in about:config. Or perhaps this functionality could be implemented as an extension.
End of Line.
Themes an issue? I use the Default Theme, with small icons / no text, and all the buttons and the URL all fit on one nice skinny line.
It was an issue in early versions of Netscape/Mozilla where you were stuck with Huge Clunky buttons, but they've fixed problem very thoroughly.
a new firefox arrived in cvsup just now
# portupgrade -r firefox
[Updating the pkgdb in
---> Upgrading 'firefox-1.0.r1,1' to 'firefox-1.0.r2_1,1' (www/firefox)
>> firefox-1.0rc2-source.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in
>> Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/re
oh, I guess I'll be doing it all again soon, rc1 is quite broken for me, middle click just opens a new untitled tab *and* I can't save preferences, I was going to try and sort it out but I'm on the upgrade treadmill. I'd forgotten what the constant cycle of upgrades was like since leaving Win32 on that oh so happy day.
There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
Everytime I've made the switch I've had to do fairly in-depth explanations, particularly because of the loss of their Favorites to Bookmarks, the difference in their format and capabilities, tabbed browsing and extensions. The biggest change for any browser programmer to obtain from prospective clients is in Bookmarks, as folks usually have a lot invested in their bookmarks. I've often thought that FireFox should have handled IE Favorites the way K-Meleon did, which is to deal with them natively.
Changing browsers is not painless. Changing e-mail programs is even more fraught with hair pulling and tears. Whenever possible I convert folks to Mozilla-mail, Thunderbird or, if they're particularly clueful, Pegasus. I never make changes to someone's computer without telling them. Anyone who would do such a thing is an arrogant little shit who should be hunted down by legions of irate computer users.
In times of trouble, the smell of frying onions usually gives confidence and comfort.
for editing your preferences?
My links include:
- Wikipedia (w = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%s)
- Dictionary.com (d = http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=%s)
- PHP help (php = http://php.net/%s)
- translate French to English (fr = http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr?lp=fr_en&urltex
t =%s), you can change the lp variable to change the languages
- US Code (usc = http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/%s.html) so usc 17/107 would be 17 USC 107, the fair use section
in addition to "dns" to send the DynDNS.org HTTP update request and "/." for the Slashdot auto-login URL in Preferences; these two don't use %s or arguments.I seem to recall reading, after looking at a roadmap, that 1.0 would be delayed for OSX, since they wanted to Aqua-fy it. Now, I see that there is a nice 1.0 OSX package available. Is it "just Firefox," without OSX pretty-ness, or did they get it done early?
I see I'm not very observent. This was mentioned in 3 comments earlier today..
Oops!
John Hancock
I've got Firefox installed on my computer, but I haven't yet completely switched over to it. My reasons for not switching to Firefox have dwindled down to the following:
1) Firefox doesn't allow me to open multiple browser windows by using a bound keyboard shortcut (CTRL+ALT+E)
2) Just as MSIE has the annoying, hard-to-get-rid-of "Links" folder in its Favorites menu, Firefox has its own required "Bookmark" directory which it will not let you delete.
3) Firefox still renders many pages oddly. Yes, I know this is because a lot of web pages have been developed with MSIE's bugs in mind. Regardless, it is still annoying.
Nothing disturbs me more than blind loyalism towards some unrealistic and over-idealistic notion of one's nationality.
Click the information bar and select "Don't show this message...". Then you'll only get status bar notifications.
The shareholder is always right.
The modifications made to a standard ZIP of Firefox are as follows:
Portable versions of Firefox, GIMP, LibreOffice, etc
How do I stop FF from asking me if I want to download a program from a website?
Every stinking time I try to install an extension a stupid box pops down and tells me that if I want to download a file automatically from the website I need to add it to a list of allowed sites. I am getting sick of adding every single site I want to install something from onto some dumb list.
Can't I just tell it to leave me alone and let me install and download things from anywhere I want? I don't want to keep adding something to a list and have it become super massive over time.
Thanks. It is in a slightly different place than where it used to be (I think it was on the left side before) so I may have missed it had that been working in previous releases.
Mathematics is made of 50 percent formulas, 50 percent proofs, and 50 percent imagination.
How do I uninstall this sucker completely?
I want to do a fresh install but everytime I run the uninstall program and then reinstall it all of the old settings are there. It has a history, keeps the extensions, remembers everything I typed into text boxes..
How do I start over?
Spoofing has nothing to do with XUL. Firefox's fix is the same as IE's: force the status bar to always be visible.
The shareholder is always right.
Whenever a new release of something is announced, there's the inevitable response of "but I just finished installing [old version here]". Well, it happened to me. I finish installing Firefox 1.0-RC2 and Slashdot was the first site I visited with it, and this was the first story. Sigh.
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
got trojans?
Cheers
Stor
"Yeah well there's a lot of stuff that should be, but isn't"
1.0 on the Mac is great! Noticably faster. why, it even displays text from Slashdot correctly! (1.0 tended to overwrite links onto the plain text of the message-at least on my 10.2.8 machine). 1.0
I was just driving home, and the CBC Radio (am) show "As It Happens" just featured a segment on the Firefox 1.0 release. It's finally mainstream!
Episode 2-17: Gnomes, to be exact.
My post was a simple joke, nothing more, nothing less.
I have found the same to be mostly true on Windows.
Rendering is the same speed as far as I can tell, and I have not found a site that can be rendered by Firefox but not by the Suite (or vice versa).
I like Venkman the JavaScript debugger, I like the integrated Mail client (which I use a lot).
I like that I have easy options to disable GIF cycling, and that I can prevent the suite from asking me to download the flash-plugin all the time. It also comes in handy that I can disable images to be loaded from any server but the originating server.
All of these may be available for FireFox, but why aren't they accessible through the standard menus?
I guess I just do not see the point of FireFox, the only advantage seems to be the smaller download (which is not even the case if you use both Firefix and Thunderbird)... I really hope the suite is continued past 1.8.
Yes there is. It's called all-in-one gestures. Look for it at http://update.mozilla.org/extensions/ under "mouse gestures". It's very configurable.
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How would you know why people love tabs for daily browsing if you haven't used it for such activities?
I used to have the exact same opinion about tabbed browsing as you. I didn't install the tabbed browsing extensions when they became available for mozilla (been using it as daily browser since M18) when they first came out, because I thought it was nifty but basically pointless. I was wrong. I know that now. Try it for a week, tune it to work the way you want it to. See if you still think it is pointless.
I can attest that I personally was in the never more than three windows open crowd before, but now I'm in the sometimes up to 20 tabs open crowd. It's so convenient to just see something on a site that interests you, middle-click it, and then when you're done reading the already opened sites see that site popup as a reminder you intended to read it.
I just setup another machine with Firefox 1.0 for the firs time (Windows 2000, previously had IE 6 only) and when the popup notice came, it had the option for me to don't notify me. When I did that, a dialog box came up and said that an icon would appear in the corner when a popup was blocked. Sure enough, when I load a page that reliably tries to bring a popup window, http://mail.lycos.com/, the icon appears in the lower right corner.
End of Line.
My version of the story: http://www.winslowslair.supremepixels.net/blog/ind ex.php?p=14
1-Crawl 2-Cnfg 3-ATF 4-Exit ?
It's not that it's not working completely, but every once in a while (about as often as before installing the extension) I get the same kind of mis-rendered page. The page has definitely finished loading... Throbber not throbbing, page loaded completely including copyright notice, etc. I'm on a "good" 'net connection, and the server doesn't seem bogged down at all, so... Anyway, the forced reflow trick with CTL +/CTL - still works, so I don't know what could be going on. Just thought I'd let you know my experience. And by the way, it sucks about the lack of documentation... Thanks for your effort though!
(This is on MS-Windows 95; I haven't tried it yet on Linux (because I can't get the stupid serial port to work).)
I am also running my monitor at 1600x1200, but don't use the whole screen, only about 1200x800.
At that size, the tabs start shrinking and running off the right-hand side once 37 tabs are open.
Those who sacrifice security to condemn liberty deserve to repeat history or something. - Benjamin Santayana
After getting one unblocked popup, I thought I'd give your advice a try. And ok, I was wrong. Neat feature is that search toolbar, and even neater is customizing the toolbar.
I'll have to go past the Firefox site and give much praise.
yeah!
(dammit, that friggin eleven fscks the whole joke up)