Slashdot Mirror

← Back to Stories (view on slashdot.org)

World of Warcraft Open Beta Online

Posted by Zonk on from the we-who-may-be-about-to-level-salute-you dept.

Everyone and their brother wrote in to mention to us that the World of Warcraft Open Beta has begun, breaking Fileplanet in the process. The WoW community site has also been hammered into a whimpering ball, and the normal version is down in favour of a simple black page of text. The torrent to download the game is still up but if you're looking to join you'd best be signing up soon. The Open Beta is a first-come first-serve affair. For our friends across the pond, IGN has details on the European Beta Test, which sounds like it will be a profitable venture for Blizzard. From my experience, if you are at all interested in fantasy gaming this one will knock your socks off.

86 comments

  1. Meanwhile, over in Everquest2 land... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    A bold warrior throws open the gates, and loudly announces "You can all enter now and pay homage and loyalty to....hey,where is everyone?"

    *crickets*

    1. Re:Meanwhile, over in Everquest2 land... by spaeschke · · Score: 4, Informative
      You couldn't be more right. SOE has been outmaneuvered by too many other companies that are better at this than they are.

      Not to say that I think Blizzard is all that great; for one thing they move like pondwater when it comes to updates. Still, they're better than Sony, and having played the EQ2 beta I can say that that game is horrible. In so many ways it's a huge step backward from the first EQ.

      No, the best developer out there right now is Cryptic. They've done everything right with City of Heroes. From the sheer fun, the quality of everything, the great customer service and the continuing updates (which a lot of other companies would sell as expansion packs), these guys are the slickest devs out there.

      SOE can still be competitive, but they're a long ways away from the 800 lb. gorilla that they used to be.

    2. Re:Meanwhile, over in Everquest2 land... by Dachannien · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, I think Blizzard dropped the ball on this one. If they had opened the open beta before this past weekend started, that would have been a ton of people not buying EQ2 and playing the WoW beta right up until late November. As it stands now, a lot more people went ahead and picked up EQ2, and will be far less likely to waste their free month playing WoW instead (and therefore will be less likely to try out WoW unless they decide they completely dislike EQ2).

  2. There goes my life. by deemaunik · · Score: 1, Funny

    Fifteen bucks more out of my wallet per month, and fifteen hours more taken out of my days. Maybe I should just hand in my resignation now and avoid getting laid off like last time. *Shudders about SWG*

  3. I would have submitted it too... by ferratus · · Score: 1

    Dammit..I really would have submitted the news myself but as I have no brothers, I couldn't participate.

    --
    IP Therefore I am.
  4. beta.. by werelord · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've been in the closed beta since July.. this one, unlike other high profile MMOs, is ready as its going to be for launch. And its fun; well worth the 15 bucks a month..

    If you are a casual gamer you have to try it out..

    1. Re:beta.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I was in closed beta for several months as well. I quit playing SWG I enjoyed it so much. And other than the servers having issues (which I assume/hope has been fixed by now). The game was fun and enjoyable.
      My only concern is that after playing beta for 3 months, I am not sure if there is any point to buy the game. I feel I have pretty much done all there is to do.....
      And I think that will be this game's biggest problem. It suffers more than other MMORPGs from burnout. There just simply isn't that much to this game at all. Hopefully the PvP (which was only being implemented fully when I stopped playing) will be something worth doing. But otherwise this game will have extremely high churn rates....

    2. Re:beta.. by Dr.+Smack+PhD · · Score: 1

      Well, it's looking pretty good, thus far, but they just introduced new stuff. Hunter and Pally talents have been in for about 2 days now, as has raid content. These things have been internally tested, but were just released to beta. There will probably need to be some polishing/bug fixes. Other, more minor things, such as a new death penality, were just introduced. They will probably get/need tweaking. There has been server instability during the waning weeks of Closed Beta and the fourm server was/is quite meek. It folded every time there was a server outage. Despite these issues, it is looking really good at this point.

  5. Bittorrent? by WereTiger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The proprietary downloader is going slow as heck. I saw mention of a torrent in the news item, any chance anyone has a link to the torrent file?

    --
    If you're hearing rhetoric about Linux, open source, or Mac and everyone's bashing Microsoft, you've found Slashdot.
    1. Re:Bittorrent? by WereTiger · · Score: 3, Informative

      Oh, the proprietary client IS a bittorrent client. Neat. pointless, but neat.

      --
      If you're hearing rhetoric about Linux, open source, or Mac and everyone's bashing Microsoft, you've found Slashdot.
    2. Re:Bittorrent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it appears the "proprietary downloader" is bittorrent

    3. Re:Bittorrent? by Trikenstein · · Score: 4, Interesting
      A BT client with no real controll.
      I had so many upload connections that it choked my download to almost nothing.

      Thankfully someone posted a torrent link and I can use BitTornado.

    4. Re:Bittorrent? by Enucite · · Score: 4, Informative

      How to make a torrent from the blizzard downloader using vim:

      vim WoW-downloader.exe
      /d8:
      d:1
      :w WoW.torrent

    5. Re:Bittorrent? by mikemulvaney · · Score: 1

      That didn't work for me. I got a file that 'file' thinks is a torrent, but the bt* commands all say it is corrupted.

    6. Re:Bittorrent? by calibanDNS · · Score: 1

      You can get a real BT file here.

    7. Re:Bittorrent? by Enucite · · Score: 1

      It works for me in Azureus. Maybe Azureus is doing some correcting?

    8. Re:Bittorrent? by feidaykin · · Score: 1

      Hey everyone, I followed this guy's instructions and uploaded the torrent for you. So in case you're scared to use vim or it is not working for you, just click here.

      --

      "To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit." -Stephen Hawking

    9. Re:Bittorrent? by Trikenstein · · Score: 1
      A heads up.

      http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2984/WoW(2). torrent

      Appears to be a bad torrent.

      Piece 1038 keeps failing hash check and keeps being re-downloaded.
      I left it on overnight and it's downloaded over 200 mb of piece 1038.
      Guess I'm heading to file planet =\

  6. BitTorrent by lune+tns · · Score: 2, Informative


    If you're a paying customer, you can grab the file from FilePlanet. Alternatively, you can signup for the WoW beta here, and grab the Official Blizzard Download Client from the signup area.

    Since the official Blizzard download client is a marvelous piece of BitTorrent shit (the Blizzard forums are rampant with posts complaining of choked bandwidth and horrible download speeds - I'm personally getting about 6 KB/s down and was putting up 70 KB/s before I choked the upload with a 3rd party program.), does anyone have a torrent file for this?

    I did find a torrent on Suprnova, but haven't been able to get a decent connection speed.

    1. Re:BitTorrent by llefler · · Score: 1

      I managed about 50 meg an hour, and after 3 hours I got so frustrated with it killing my broadband I just shut it off. Blizzard is trying to squeeze every ounce of bandwidth out of their customers, so they don't have to pay to distribute the beta. But with their hacked BT client it wants to upload at the same speed as download. The result is that you get a horrible download and nothing else on your network can access the Internet.

      I'll never use it again. I have a friend that has the ST2 installer, I'll either get it from him and download the patch or forget about the beta. The game isn't even released, and I'm already wondering if I wasted my money buying it.

      --
      It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit. -- Harry Truman
    2. Re:BitTorrent by Fo0eY · · Score: 1

      i posted this above a bit, but there's a site coming at as the place to go for the WoW torrents

      http://wowtorrents.de.vu/

      blizzard claims they'll have direct download options for patching when retails comes .. guess we'll have to wait and see

      i've got the newest torrents on my site if you have any problems with that site

      http://fooey.net/stuff/WorldOfWarcraft/torrents/

      or if you're feeling extra industrious, you can extract the .torrent from the .exe yourself

    3. Re:BitTorrent by beholder77 · · Score: 1

      I've had similar problems with the regular BitTorrent client without specifying an upload cap. I'd recommend you look into m0n0wall, it's a great firewall that you boot from a CD that can do traffic shaping. No more worries about badly designed programs spanking your network, the shaper is your friend :) You can also get traffic shaping from the Linksys WRT54G when you add a 3rd party ROM image. I haven't tried it myself, but I assume it's the same concept.

      --
      Success is as dangerous as failure, hope as hollow as fear.
    4. Re:BitTorrent by Toxygen · · Score: 1, Informative
      I'm personally getting about 6 KB/s down and was putting up 70 KB/s before I choked the upload with a 3rd party program


      That's a real good strategy there. You must really understand how bittorrent works. See, the reason you're only getting 6 k/sec is because there's SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE LIKE YOU who are choking their upload speed to suit their personal idea of what "fair share" should be. If everybody let the uploader have as much bandwidth as it needed there would be more than enough to supply the downloads.

      When you take away 50 KB/s of upload speed, you're taking it away from the geek on the other side of the country who's complaining that he's getting slow speeds so he capped his upload to "compensate".
    5. Re:BitTorrent by llefler · · Score: 1

      The problem is; if you don't cap your upload Blizzards' client will choke your broadband. There is no way my cable is working efficiently at 40k download and 50k upload. I have a 3000/384 pipe.

      I have no problem supplying people with bandwidth, but when it takes so much that I can't even browse Slashdot on another PC, it's taking too much. Now if they want to take every bit of my upload bandwidth, blocking frame ACKs so downloading is impossible, they can feel free to pay for my cable this month. Otherwise, I'll give them 75% and I don't care if my DL speed matches my UL speed. I've put it on it's own machine and it can run for the next 2 1/2 days.

      --
      It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit. -- Harry Truman
  7. first impression: ... eh. by joe094287523459087 · · Score: 4, Informative

    i've played FFXI for over a year but that's my only MMORPG experience, so my comments about WoW will inevitably have some ffxi-comparison flavor to them. i'm a hardcore gamer other than that though.

    the character customization was a letdown. you can choose skin color, hair color, hair style, and facial hair, but each option has only 10 presets. you can't pick any RGB combination.

    it was a little confusing when trying to get in to play with friends. apparently you start in your race's home town, and half the races (horde) start on the other side of the planet from the rest (alliance). so you have to coordinate and have everyone at least on the same island, and same race if you want to level up together.

    the first thing i noticed was navigation. there's a little map but it doesn't show anything important. if you get lost an NPC can put a marker on it for you but i didn't see a way to mark it myself. guild wars has an awesome feature where you can draw on the map and everyone in your party can see it. ffxi has a full screen map mode that shows everything in your current zone (although you have to do a quest to get the map). the WoW map was jsut ... green. it was useless to me. the town didnt appear on the map at all.

    the next thing i noticed was how cartoonish everything was. not just the style of the models and architecture, but the 3d engine. every surface was flat and shiny-smooth. the characters and monsters moving around didn't seem to inhabit the world - footstep animation didnt match how quickly the characters moved. it looked like a movie made by an art student.

    it took me about 2 hours to get level 5. apparently the best way to level up is to do quests, most of which require you to kill stuff. in ffxi, you have to be ok at your job at 10 and good at your job by level 15 or you will die every fight. in wow, i was soloing stuff 2 levels higher and reading the news in another window - it's very easy.

    i've only played it 1 day and there's review by people that have played it for months already, but i wanted to comfort the people that didn't manage to get a key yesterday - (for me) it's not addicting and after the first 2 hours i was ready to stop playing because it was boring.

    will it be the biggest MMORPG in time? i'm gonna go against conventional wisdom and say No. when i first started FFXI, i immediately felt like i was part of a big complex world and every time i went around a corner there was something really cool to discover. wow just seems antiseptic and empty. then again, when FFXI released in NA, it had already been out for a couple years in japan and for many months in NA beta. this is a fresh new world in WoW so maybe that's how all MMORPG start out.

    1. Re:first impression: ... eh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have to atleast get to level 10 before you start judging it. The first couple days i thought the game sucked and didn't meet expectations at all but it grows on you as you learn how it works and explore new cities and areas in the game. Also the newb zones are terrible because they're so over-crowded, you really need to give it more time.

    2. Re:first impression: ... eh. by Zed2K · · Score: 1

      I'm curious as to what race you played? In the stress test I played as a dwarf and had a blast. Yes you can solo about 2-3 levels higher than you but you do take a beating in doing so and can die doing it if you aren't paying attention (especially the higher 10+ level monsters). I never got lost running around and if I remember correctly you can pull up a larger map and still run around, the towns are marked on the map as well as other geographic features.

      I'm thinking something was wrong with your setup or a bug or something. The art is very good and the animation and models are good as well. Most of the early missions require some basic combat as well as being delivery boy. But later missions link together and build on each other getting harder and harder.

      Not a flame, but maybe the reason you thought it was boring was because you really didn't want to play it in the first place but did so just so you could say it was boring and actually say so after playing it. Thats based on you saying that you were reading news in another window while playing.

      Its not for everyone but I think its the best of these games so far.

    3. Re:first impression: ... eh. by joe094287523459087 · · Score: 1

      i was a night elf priest.

      it's totally plausible that the game is better than my review makes it sound. after all, most people seem to like it a lot. i don't think it was my setup, i jsut think it pales in comparison to other games i've played lately.

      and to be fair to WoW, i think the first few hours can be confusing/boring for every MMORPG because you're killing low level stuff and neither you nor the monsters have cool gear/abilities/loot/etc.

      above all else, i mainly wanted to share that it wasn't the BEST. GAME. EVER. so that the people suffering from not having a key don't feel too let down about having to wait to play it.

    4. Re:first impression: ... eh. by Achoi77 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Finally got on the beta last night - here is my first few impressions:

      For those now playing right now, when Blizzard says the game has an emphasis for casual gamers, they really mean it. Certain mechanics of the game are defined so that powerleveling is discouraged - and at times, just plain difficult. In other words, nevermind the fact that leveling up is fairly nice and easy, the actual process of counting heads from all the kills you made is slow. So that means you (by yourself) will not be physically able to empty out an entire zone by ravaging the whole land before they respawn - on the other hand, there is always plenty of stuff to kill, and little downtime. :-)

      I beleive grandparent's gripe is strictly from a powergamer's perspective - trying to find every single gaming mechanic in order to maximize what is perceived as playing efficiency in the quest to try and 'beat' the system. I know I was like that for the first few hours of playing WoW. But gameplay style is completely different than EQ for instance (don't really know much about the other MMOs), and once I realized that the STORY and exploration is as much of the game as leveling, the whole game became so much more enjoyable it's retarded I didn't realize it sooner.

      As for character customization: No more sticking with the few tried and true 'caste' classes, this is the flexibility in a MMORPG I was looking for! I beleive 'cheat sheet' sites like Castersrealm and Allakhazam (are those sites still around?) may begin to become obsolete as this game gains popularity.

      That said, WoW's target demographic is NOT the powergamers, NOT the people already playing EQ or FF or CoH or whatever MMORPG is popular right now. It's primary aim is for guys like me: ex powergamers who are over the top, who need to pay off bills, mortgage, and focus on RL things in general now that I'm old. I feel like I can play an hour a day and not feel like it was a waste of effort (like in EQ).

      I'm sold.

      Oh, is the whole battlegrounds thing up and running? Can anyone clue me in on how that works? That kind of PvP sounds like a blast!

    5. Re:first impression: ... eh. by Slime-dogg · · Score: 1

      I played the 1st stress test, and was probably the first to sign up for an open beta account last night (I checked the site, it worked, I jumped for joy.).

      I'd have to say that the animation and cartoonish look and feel is beautiful, and much in line with all of the previous warcraft games. It is supposed to look cartoonish. The character animation is slick and smooth, and it also looks very natural.

      I only wish that the professions allowed for unique / fantastic items in the end. As it is, you can have two professions, but you'll never make items that are as powerful as some of the item drops by monsters. I'd rather have some sort of quest or something that I could complete that would allow me to generate a powerful unique item. You read about legendary items being created by characters in books, why can't we also participate in this? But this would be a load on the server if everyone had their own unique item.

      Oh well. It ain't perfect, but it sure is nice and fun.

      --
      You need to restart your computer. Hold down the Power button for several seconds or press the Restart button.
    6. Re:first impression: ... eh. by AuMatar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've played every MMO from EQ to FFXI to Eve to ATiTD. Here's my thoughts on your comments.

      the character customization was a letdown. you can choose skin color, hair color, hair style, and facial hair, but each option has only 10 presets. you can't pick any RGB combination.

      Funny someone from FFXI complains about this- weren't there 10 or so total choices per race there? This is a good amount of customization. Letting someone pick any RGB would be bad, we'd have pink and purple Taurens which would ruin the atmosphere. Also, WoW has the most important part of customization- skill customization. Warrior A is different from warrior B by more tha just his gear- he has different skillsets and abilities due to race and talents. THis is far more important and fun than just looks.

      it was a little confusing when trying to get in to play with friends. apparently you start in your race's home town, and half the races (horde) start on the other side of the planet from the rest (alliance). so you have to coordinate and have everyone at least on the same island, and same race if you want to level up together.

      This is a good thing. The game is a PvP game- horde vs alliance. You can't have PvP realms if you're playing lovey dovey in the same city. The racial cities help give the game more of an RP feel (and its all about rp), and a better atmosphere. I really think FFXI would have been better if they had enforced racial starting cities instead of using the weak bonus item thing.

      the first thing i noticed was navigation. there's a little map but it doesn't show anything important. if you get lost an NPC can put a marker on it for you but i didn't see a way to mark it myself. guild wars has an awesome feature where you can draw on the map and everyone in your party can see it. ffxi has a full screen map mode that shows everything in your current zone (although you have to do a quest to get the map). the WoW map was jsut ... green. it was useless to me. the town didnt appear on the map at all.

      As you explore more of an area, additional information appears on the map. For example when you find a new area, it will color in on the map, mouseover will show the areaname, and additional details will show up (roads, rivers, buildings, dungeons). An FFXI style marking or guildwar style thing would be nice, but it isn't as low featured as you claim. But since you only got to 5, you may still be in your starting town and not have noticed this.

      it took me about 2 hours to get level 5. apparently the best way to level up is to do quests, most of which require you to kill stuff. in ffxi, you have to be ok at your job at 10 and good at your job by level 15 or you will die every fight. in wow, i was soloing stuff 2 levels higher and reading the news in another window - it's very easy.

      The difficulty does go up, but I consider the easy leveling a *good* thing. I quit FFXI not because the game was poor, but because leveling became too much of a pain post 50. ANd I love leveling from quests- it adds so much more to a game then just killing mobs. Wait til you get some of the higher level quests. As a shaman, for my fire totem I needed to find a shrine in the mountains. It required finding a small mountain path that twisted through the zone. If you didn't know a path and a shrine had to be there, you'd never find it. Similarly, I've found quests started by hidden items. If you explore you can find all sorts of stuff.

      will it be the biggest MMORPG in time? i'm gonna go against conventional wisdom and say No. when i first started FFXI, i immediately felt like i was part of a big complex world and every time i went around a corner there was something really cool to discover. wow just seems antiseptic and empty. then again, when FFXI released in NA, it had already been out for a couple years in japan and for many months in NA beta. this is a fresh new world in WoW so maybe that's how all MMORPG start out.

      --
      I still have more fans than freaks. WTF is wrong with you people?
    7. Re:first impression: ... eh. by ktulu1115 · · Score: 1

      I havn't played WoW yet, but I've seen a friend of mine play - overall I'm not that impressed. I play FFXI and find that much more enjoyable, although WoW certainly is much easier from the looks of it.

      I think my biggest gripe is the Warcraft theme itself - it was never an RPG, they took the RTS game and turned it into an RPG. Sometimes this works, and I'm sure there are a lot of things that are great about WoW. But I never liked Warcraft to begin with, so I really don't find the game particularly appealing.

      However, one instance where a game changed styles (RTS to FPS/RTS) and I happened to love was C&C Renegade. Now that was a damn cool game. I should play it again now that I think about it...

      Anyway, any other FFXI players play WoW for a decent amount of time? I'd be very interested to hear your comparisons.

      --
      # fuser -v /dev/attention | grep work
      #
    8. Re:first impression: ... eh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny someone from FFXI complains about this- weren't there 10 or so total choices per race there?

      Square will lie and tell you 16 per 5 races. This is a blatant lie. The truth is 8 HAIR STYLES per race with 2 HAIR COLORS. And even that is a lie, because one race had 4 styles and 4 colors per style. Everyone looks freaking identical in that game. I lost count of the number of times I wound up playing with players that looked exactly like me.

      The game is a PvP game- horde vs alliance. You can't have PvP realms if you're playing lovey dovey in the same city. The racial cities help give the game more of an RP feel (and its all about rp), and a better atmosphere. I really think FFXI would have been better if they had enforced racial starting cities instead of using the weak bonus item thing.

      I don't know about enforcing the racial starting cities... but only because the design of two of them (Bastok and Windurst) sucked ass. I never got a feel of any pride of being either my race or from my city in FFXI, though. Theoretically I was helping my home city in the conquest of the world, or something. But there was no PVP, and no real reason to be proud to be from any of the cities.

      The difficulty does go up, but I consider the easy leveling a *good* thing. I quit FFXI not because the game was poor, but because leveling became too much of a pain post 50.

      YES. 1,000 times over, yes. FFXI's end game absolutely and completely sucks ass. They've had three years now to remedy this, and what do they give us? Chains of Promethius, the expansion pack that forces you to play at level 30 through three overly-tough dungeons if you want to experience any of the new content! Fuck that.

      You also left out the insanely stupid "level cap" quests you have to do (obviously originally designed as a time waster to slow people's ascent). You have to get three super-rare drops off monsters that you can't solo to make it past level 50. At level 55, you and 18 other people have to fight three NMs. (Good luck getting 18 people to help you on something with no other reward.) Good job there, Square.

      Then there's the massively inflated grind until level 70, when they finally started adding end game content. (I calculated it at something like 400,000 XP to make it to 70, where you can expect to earn about 3000 XP an hour average in a good party.)

      Of course, I got sick and tired of this at 60, when I finally completed my AF. The AF was a mildly fun diversion, until I realized that this "job specific equipment" sucked ass compared with other equipment you could just buy. Which brings us to another point, the suck-ass FFXI economy.

      Ugh, I'm turning this into an anti-FFXI rant again. Suffice it to say that FFXI players should really check out the new offerings and play them until at least level 20. You might be pleasantly surprised.

    9. Re:first impression: ... eh. by EngineeringMarvel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I played FFXI for approximately 6 months and attained level 40 with my main job. I played WoW during the stress test and attained level 15. I am a casual gamer. I enjoyed FFXI, but I grew bored of leveling, thus grew bored of FFXI.

      If you are a power gamer, you will probably want to stick with FFXI because the leveling and quest system in FFXI is based around playing the game 3-5 hours at a time. If you are tired of leveling or a casual gamer, then switch to WoW. WoW has an extremely elaborate quest system that drives you through the game. Unlike FFXI, you get some small story tidbits while you work on rank. In WoW, everything has a story, and like FFXI, the quests are driven to make you explore new areas.

      Grouping. You know that in FFXI, you can't do anything without a full group. Not to mention a full group of good players. In WoW, that is not the case. You can choose to do solo missions are group missions since the quest are color coded according to their difficulty. I enjoyed doing the solo quests and the harder, group quests. With that said, you have more options with WoW, than you do with FFXI.

      Leveling. After I reached level 10, the level came a lot slower, just like in FFXI. You can work on a sub skills, but you are pretty much stuck with the main job you pick in WoW. FFXI was cool because you could just switch jobs whenever you wanted, you cannot really do that with WoW...but, the jobs/skills in WoW are very customizable and are more detailed, so you have more to choose from. In FFXI, you received ability A at level 10. In WoW, you have to choose what skills you want to concentrate in. Example, mage would choose, fire, water, or earth. In FFXI, you just earned more money to get what you wanted.

      I found FFXI to be too slow and time consuming to get anything done in the end, that's why I quit. I enjoyed WoW because of its casual atmosphere. That and not ever having to wait for a WHM to pop-up and join my group. I suggest you try the open BETA. I think you will find all you need to know and will be able to make a good decision based on it.

      --
      I couldn't think of anything witty to say, so...you're stuck with this.
    10. Re:first impression: ... eh. by ktulu1115 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the response.

      That's has been my complaint/annoyance about FFXI as well - leveling takes *forever*. It's fun to play the game, but you really need blocks of hours straight in order to play.

      I think my biggest complaint about WoW was that it didn't seem like a *real* RPG. The spells seemed watered down and focused more on action-style playing than a true RPG. I like knowing exactly how much damage my spells do, I like taking turns in fighting and thinking about what action I will perform next.

      I was a *HUGE* fan of the Dragon Warrior series, and loved many FF games as well (3 and 11 my fav's). Maybe I'll give it a shot, I almost feel like I'm wasting my time on FFXI cause I really don't have the time to put into it that I want. But then again I don't want my FFXI guide to go to waste either. :)

      --
      # fuser -v /dev/attention | grep work
      #
    11. Re:first impression: ... eh. by jkovacik · · Score: 1

      "You have 2nd MMO syndrome". My first MMO was EQ. My 2nd is City of Heroes. I can honestly say I'm blown away by CoH. Of course, I don't like spending 3 months gathering all of the pieces of an epic item just so I can be remotely effective - the enhancement system of CoH, how no player is massively better than another just because they can camp the rare spawns - is one of my favorite aspects of the game.

  8. blah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2984/WoW(2). torrent

  9. Got in last night by dr00g911 · · Score: 4, Informative

    My wife and I made it in the open beta last night.

    FYI -- whichever installer / torrent you download, the Mac *and* PC versions are included so you don't have to worry about sucking down 2.6 gigs for each platform if you've got both platforms at your disposal.

    Initial impressions after about 2 hours on my little undead warlock:

    - Incredible amount of polish (except for the whole server being reduced to rubble thing)
    - Much quicker progression than other MMORPGS -- level and quest design are extremely well thought out
    - Seems to borrow from the best of other MMOs, and really polish the hell out of the annoying parts (treadmilling, 'where do I go now?'). You've always got a purpose.
    - Leveling and progression are a little 'odd' right now -- not knowing how to spec, without the massive fansites that Camelot or EQ have make training a little risky. But this promotes a bit of experimentation, and besides -- my toons are gonna get wiped at launch anyhow. I may as well tinker.
    - I'm curious about the 'endgame' -- in DAoC it's all about (extremely addictive) consentual PvP. In EQ, it's all about camping. Being Warcraft, I'd assume that the first expansions are going to be seriously PvP focused, similar to what DAoC's got. At least that's my hope.

    As a guy with a few lvl 50s in DAoC and an original EQ account abandoned way back around Kunark, I was simply blown away by how much fun I was having. And I loved DAoC.

    This is the telling part: I didn't even notice the experience bar in the interface, nor go looking for it until the end of my playtime when I started customizing the interface. It just didn't matter because I was simply having too much fun exploring and doing quests. Yep. FedEx, scavenger and kill quests are fun in WoW and really seem like they're adding to the texture of the world.

    This seems to finally be the MMO that my casual gaming friends can pick up along side me.

    The last time we tried this was buying about 10 copies of Shadowbane for Macs & PCs, and boy did we get burnt. Badly.

    1. Re:Got in last night by Slime-dogg · · Score: 1

      I'm curious about the 'endgame' -- in DAoC it's all about (extremely addictive) consentual PvP. In EQ, it's all about camping. Being Warcraft, I'd assume that the first expansions are going to be seriously PvP focused, similar to what DAoC's got. At least that's my hope.

      They addressed this in one of their FAQ's. WoW is built around being PvP, but it's uniquely PvP. If you are a hoard member, it is extremely difficult to communicate with alliance members. Furthermore, if you enter an opposing side's "zone," an event pops up that says that the zone is being attacked.

      When I was in the 1st stress test, I was a lowish level druid night elf... once I got off of the big tree, I found myself in the middle of a rather massive attack by 30-40 level hoard members. Thank goodness that the graveyard was right next to the beach.

      --
      You need to restart your computer. Hold down the Power button for several seconds or press the Restart button.
  10. Port Forwarding by hords · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wow, check out PortForward.com! If you need help forwarding ports for this game, or bittorrent to download it :), this is the place. Found the link on Blizzard's website. Pretty useful stuff!

    1. Re:Port Forwarding by calibanDNS · · Score: 1

      FYI, the Blizzard download client recommends forwarding ports 3724, 6112, and 6881-6999 on your router to the client running the download process.

  11. Consider the slight irony... by Incoherent07 · · Score: 1

    that you're having to wait for an open beta slot to open up...

    (I already have one, having jumped on FilePlanet right as it started giving out keys.)

    --
    This is my sig. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
    1. Re:Consider the slight irony... by Slime-dogg · · Score: 1

      I would have jumped on FilePlanet, but they required you to pay for service in order to get the key. I don't ever use FilePlanet, so paying for it is sort of stupid for me.

      Thankfully, I got an open beta account last night... around midnight.

      --
      You need to restart your computer. Hold down the Power button for several seconds or press the Restart button.
  12. Its not that open. by DrStrangeLug · · Score: 1

    You can't take part unless you live in the US. European gamers have to wait until the European open beta. Because it must take millions of $$$'s to convert American language localisation to English language. Must require an army of coders to add those extra U's.

    1. Re:Its not that open. by moonbender · · Score: 1

      Is that so? I know it was true for the previous betas, but today I was able to create an account and start downloading the game... So unless they check your IP when logging in, you should be fine. Do they?

      --
      Switch back to Slashdot's D1 system.
    2. Re:Its not that open. by AliasTheRoot · · Score: 1

      No they dont, i just lied about my address on the form and got in. I also had a fake fileplanet address / account for the stress test and that was fine also.

    3. Re:Its not that open. by Kanon · · Score: 1

      I put my real address in. Told them I was from the UK and everything. They obviously aren't checking.

    4. Re:Its not that open. by moonbender · · Score: 1

      Nope, neither did I. I guess this time around open really means open.

      --
      Switch back to Slashdot's D1 system.
    5. Re:Its not that open. by Pofy · · Score: 1

      There have been Europeans in the game since the start of the closed beta early last spring, they are still there and can play so obviously there is no IP check or other check either. I live in Sweden and have been playing since the start of the closed beta and was playing this past weekend without any problem. So there should be no problem at all.

  13. not really a beta. by pezpunk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    first of all, i am, unfortunately, totally addicted to this game. it's easily the best MMORPG on the market right now.

    secondly, however, i think it's important to realize that we're not really participating in a beta test here. the game's more polished than most MMORPG's EVER end up being. what we have here is a *DEMO*. this is a brilliant peice of strategy on Blizzard's part to get a huge number of people hooked on the game while it's free, while simultaneously upstaging EQ2's launch.

    i gotta tell ya, it worked like a charm on me. there is simply a mind-boggling amount of stuff to do, even for the races that are complaining about getting the short end of the content stick (tauren and orc). i'm only level 20, and i estimate i've completed over 100 quests. each new land i eventually make my way to makes me go "oh, COOL!"

    the homeland of the tauren are vcriticized for being sparse, but i think it's really pretty. the tauren have sort of a spiritual native american thing going, with totems and feathers and stuff. there home is an expansive green plains littered with lumbering kodo beasts, accompanyed by huge bluffs rising high into the clouds.

    my first trip to Silverpine, a town in the land of the forsaken (formerly human farm and township territory, that has fallen to the undead), i was taken aback by how much it really felt like a countryside that had been overrun by the undead. there is a permeating sense of sadness, and decay. really well done, and quite a contrast to the barren orc lands and lush tauren lands.

    i've also visited some tropical islands, a pirate town, a deforestation facility run by goblins, and a strip mine run by dwarfs. i've seen a lot of really amazing things, and i feel like i've only scratched the surface. i think i'll try Gnome next, they look cute as hell.

    --
    i could live a little longer in this prison
    1. Re:not really a beta. by Slime-dogg · · Score: 1

      The single best atmospheric location is Teldrassil, the home of the night elves. It's pretty dark, but there are little glowing floating things that fall from the sky, and it's got a really peaceful feeling.

      I hope that they some day implement seasons and day/night. Running around when it's day all the time just feels wierd, especially after playing something like Morrowind.

      --
      You need to restart your computer. Hold down the Power button for several seconds or press the Restart button.
    2. Re:not really a beta. by jorenko · · Score: 3, Informative

      Day/night is on a 24 hour schedule, matching the time zone that the server you're playing on is in. Although dusk does last longer than it should. You don't really see stars until about midnight.

    3. Re:not really a beta. by eviltypeguy · · Score: 1

      The dusk thing is kinda funny. Apparently the developers did that because they wanted to make sure that people got to see the environment in something other than daylight (which apparently only lasts about 8 hours) according to an interview...

  14. Downloader idiocy, and getting around it by Noah+Adler · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can't believe Blizzard could come up with such a poor BitTorrent client. It seems they fundamentally misunderstand how BitTorrent is meant to work. From a staff member on the forums I found:

    'The dev team continues to work on the Blizzard Downloader to ensure that the difference between upload and download rates are as small as possible.'

    Their client attempts to lock your upload/download speed at 1:1. This is not how BitTorrent should work. Each client should upload at whatever maximum speed the user deems reasonable, and try to download as fast as it possibly can. The p2p network itself is responsible for regulating how fast the user downloads, using a Tit-for-Tat approach. If you cap your upload rate at 1KB/s, that's perfectly fine, your peers will just choose not to serve you as quickly as other more generous nodes. Artificially locking the download rate in the client program itself is just stupid.

    In addition to the download/upload ratio being artificially modified by the client, there is no way using the supplied installer to limit the rate. It will saturate the upstream, and at least for me, caused me to not be able to do much else on the net at the same time. I could stay connected to IRC, but I couldn't get to any websites or even ping google.com. This is also stupid.

    A solution: I tried searching the web for unofficial .torrents, but the only ones I found seemed to no longer work. Luckily, Blizzard has made it easy to extract the torrent from it's installer executable. It's just embedded as a resource file, so using Visual Studio it's easy to extract them. I found three torrents embedded: bin108.torrent, bin112.torrent, and bin119.torrent. These are all somewhat modified with some proprietary data, but bin108.torrent (which seems to contain most or all of the installer data) seems to work nicely in the original BitConjurer client (with which I can actually cap my upload rate!) Now, instead of down/up at 40/40, I'm doing about 120/15.

    Sorry for the rant, but this really pissed me off. I generally expect better from Blizzard :-)

    1. Re:Downloader idiocy, and getting around it by lune+tns · · Score: 1

      Would you mind posting those up somewhere? :D

    2. Re:Downloader idiocy, and getting around it by _xeno_ · · Score: 1

      I expect their line of reasoning was to ensure people would "play fair" and be able to close the download program once the download completed. After all, why should the "downloader" stay open once you've gotten the file?

      --
      You are in a maze of twisty little relative jumps, all alike.
    3. Re:Downloader idiocy, and getting around it by zhenga · · Score: 1

      i dont think it will work with a normal torrentclient, it seems it downloads corrupt data.. But it could be me..

    4. Re:Downloader idiocy, and getting around it by shiva600 · · Score: 1

      www.wowtorrents.de.vu worked for me

  15. WoW on Linux -- How-to using Cedega (WineX) by Spoing · · Score: 1

    Threads on running WoW on Linux using WineX/Cedega.

    --
    A firewall can not protect you from yourself. Turn off what you do not need. Do not use the firewall to do your work.
    1. Re:WoW on Linux -- How-to using Cedega (WineX) by Kris_J · · Score: 1

      That's just a worldofwarcraft.com search for "linux" and therefore not especially helpful. I've never played a Windows game on my new Linux box. Does anyone have a how-to for the WineX (or whatever) thing that's been written specifically to cope with WoW (just in case there are "quirks" unique to WoW)?

    2. Re:WoW on Linux -- How-to using Cedega (WineX) by Spoing · · Score: 1
      1. That's just a worldofwarcraft.com search for "linux" and therefore not especially helpful. I've never played a Windows game on my new Linux box. Does anyone have a how-to for the WineX (or whatever) thing that's been written specifically to cope with WoW (just in case there are "quirks" unique to WoW)?

      Read the link. It does include a how-to. That's why I posted it!

      --
      A firewall can not protect you from yourself. Turn off what you do not need. Do not use the firewall to do your work.
  16. Second Time Through... by LordYUK · · Score: 2, Informative

    Let me say this, I was in FilePlanets 4 day stress test two months ago, I got to level 18 in 4 days, and I loved every minute past level 4 (I was a warrior, they suck quite literally till they get a few abilities). The game is gorgeous. People complaining about the cartoonish looks have obviously NEVER played a Warcraft game. If it looked ANY DIFFERENT it wouldnt be WarCraft.

    The game is very simple to learn, and always has me wanting more. I moved from CoH with 3 friends (trying to get my girl to move too grr...) and we all LOVE it. I have 4 characters already, and I dont care that in two weeks I'll have to start at square one on release, THIS GAME ROCKS!!!

    Downsides: no talking, well, not like EQ2, but thats okay, they DO talk, just not as much.

    Cannot speed up text for quests. I read faster than Blizzard "scrolls" the text, which is frustrating.

    Cannot really start in same area. If you're a dwarf and I am an Elf, we can group, but not till about level 8-12 (note this takes about 3-4 hours, which isnt THAT bad, but still, its annoying).

    Upsides. everything else. the quest system, the jokes (the human warrior tells a joke about a magical set of bracers, Master of the Bracers, yes, a LotR spoof!!!), the world (peasants, there are PEASANTS gathering wood!!!), everything.

    I R BLIZZARD FANBOIII ONCE MORE!!

    This game rocks :)

    --
    This is my sig. Its pathetic.
    1. Re:Second Time Through... by Ghent99 · · Score: 2, Informative
      Cannot speed up text for quests. I read faster than Blizzard "scrolls" the text, which is frustrating.

      The UI for WoW is completely customizable, including the quest text speed. There are a few mods out there, but only recommend one:

      CTMod

      The install is easy, but you'll need to read the forums to get it work with the current patch level. (There's a number to change in a few files). I'm sure the guys over there will release an updated version when retail ships.

      This mod is fantastic, it adds many hot bars which you can turn on and off, several features, and a quest text fading enable/disable feature. Turn it off, and bang, quest text appears in it's completeness, instantaneously :)

      Check it out, I can't play WoW without it :)

      --

      - Ghent

    2. Re:Second Time Through... by joe094287523459087 · · Score: 1

      another UI, with a few more features than CTmod http://www.cosmosui.org/downloads.php also i can't find the d/l link on the ctmod page...

  17. the real torrents are embedded in the downloader by Fo0eY · · Score: 2, Informative

    you can get the real torrents here:
    http://wowtorrents.de.vu/

    or here:
    http://fooey.net/stuff/WorldOfWarcraft/torr ents

  18. A lot of testing! by antdude · · Score: 1

    I am surprised that Blizzard lets people to test this MMORPG with stress test, closed tests, open beta, etc. for a long time. I have to give kudos for the company in doing to get rid most of the issues even when 23rd is two weeks away! Good job, Blizzard!

    --
    Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
    1. Re:A lot of testing! by Ghent99 · · Score: 1
      Just think 'Little Red Riding Hood':

      Lit'l Red: What big eyes you have, Grandma!
      Wolf: All the better to see you with, my dear.

      Lit'l Red: What big teeth you have, Grandma!
      Wolf: Allll the better to eat you with, my dear!

      Marketing strategies at their best... ;)

      --

      - Ghent

  19. Anyone been denied yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been downloading since late last night, I'm up to about 1.7 GB. I'm positivley salivating.

    So, out of curiousity, has anyone been denied an open beta account yet??

    1. Re:Anyone been denied yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone please answer him, I can't get into the site through my firewall at work, and I wasn't able to get in for registration last night.

      But as for downloading, you CAN get it from FilePlanet, even if you don't have a paid registration there. And no stupid uploading choking your connection. (Yay)

    2. Re:Anyone been denied yet? by Song+for+the+Deaf · · Score: 1

      as of 11 PM Nov 9 the beta is CLOSED. Damnit missed another! Any help out there? Blizzard employee reading this??

    3. Re:Anyone been denied yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beta has reopened for a short time

    4. Re:Anyone been denied yet? by tricops · · Score: 1

      That was pissing me off for a while. I really dislike bittorrent. My ISP is anal about any large amount of uploading, and having it saturate my entire up cap of bandwidth while I'm trying to do other stuff was a pain in the ass too. I finally solved the problem by finding/using Netlimiter to limit my up speed for the download client to something sane.

      --
      (\(\
      (^v^)
      (")")
      This is the cute vorpal bunny virus, copy to your sig or runaway, runaway in fear!
  20. This is a serious issue! by node159 · · Score: 1

    Honnestly people, this is a serious issue. Do I leave now? or just stop showing up? Do I milk the job for all its worth, so I'm not forced to go work sooner when my money runs out?

    My recommendation? Move to a socalist state, let the state support me! When considering moving, look at if they provide free broadband while they are at it :)

    Hell its what I'm gong to be doing once I graduate with my MScCS :P

    --
    GPLv2: I want my rights, I want my phone call! DRM: What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak?
  21. Downloader sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Dear Blizzard,

    Why didn't you just take an open source client, strip it down, brand it, and tie it to your own .torrent file?

    Did you really think that after years of public examination and work with torrents, you were going to make something better on your first try?

    Seeing the developers say that they are trying to ensure a 1:1 download:upload ratio is really bad. Do they even understand why torrents work? (Hint: you can *still download quickly*, and the upload you give away to others doesn't hurt you.)

    Poor showing. I hope you listen to your potential customers and fix this.
  22. Great game by jgoemat · · Score: 2, Informative
    This comes from an EQ background (played DAOC for a while too)... Some of the things I like about WOW:
    1. No exp penalty for death - I don't think a game should seriously punish you for wanting to explore. If you die in WOW, your ghost appears in a graveyard in the area and you just have to follow the mini-map back to your corpse. You get resurrected with 1/2 mana and health for free. The only penalty is the time it takes you to get back to your corpse. A game is supposed to be fun and exciting. In EQ I found myself killing safe mobs because if I died I would have to spend an hour or two getting that experience back. Now you can actually feel more like a hero and take a chance every now and then.
    2. MINIMAP! - You have a map of the large area with roads and rivers displayed on it, as well as a mini-map showing exactly where you are in the local area. People in the next stage for your current quests are shown on the minimap, as well as your party members and (hopefully not) your corpse. Also you can ask guards in any town for directions if you want to find your trainer, someone to do with tradeskills, the bank, or other things, then a marker is placed on the large map and the mini-map.
    3. QUESTS! - You don't have to walk around to every person and talk to them to see if they have a quest. If someone has a quest for you, a yellow exclaimation mark is over their head. Now you don't have to search the fan sites to find out what the quests are, you can just play the game. Also they quests are fun and plentiful, and actually give you good rewards (exp, cash, and items)
    4. Tradeskills - So far at least, you just get trained and have recipees for things you can make. If you want to make something, you click the tradekill button and pick a recipe. If you have the items, hit 'Create'. You can even batch create a lot of the same kind of item if you have the materials. I hated having to look up or find the formulas for things in EQ and then having to deal with failures. The free tradeskills cooking and fishing look interesting too.
    5. Downtime - So far at level 8, it only takes a short while to regenerate health and mana while sitting, even less time if you eat or drink something. I hope this continues into higher levels, I hated meditating for 5 minutes after each kill in EQ.
    6. PVP - One thing I liked about DAOC was the feeling of being on a team and being able to engage in PVP if you wanted, or be safe if you wanted. I've only seen one member of the horde and chased him out. In normal servers in WOW, you are safe unless you attack a player of the other side, then you have a PVP flag set for 5 minutes during which the other team can attack you. If you don't want to do PVP, just don't attack anyone.
    7. Items - EQ was all about camping monsters to get that uber-item or an item you needed for a quest to get an uber-item. I don't think WOW will be like that, the equipment doesn't seem to confer that much of an advantage.
  23. Post the .torrents please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pretty please?

    1. Re:Post the .torrents please by zhenga · · Score: 1
      Pretty pretty please with sugar on top?

      download the windows downloader, and run:
      dd if=world_of_warcraft_open_beta_downloader.exe of=wow.torrent bs=1 skip=447624 count=200378
      and you will get the torrent named wow.torrent
    2. Re:Post the .torrents please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i didn't get a good result. how do you detect the start of the .torrent embedded in the exe? how do you determine the size ( count )? i've downloaded the http://www.battle.net/downloads/WoW-1.1.0-b-Instal ler_Downloader-enUS.exe but when i run btdownloadcurses.py on it, i just get the error "got bad file info"

      i beleive i followed your instructions:
      [rallen@rook ftp]$ dd if=WoW-1.1.0-b-Installer_Downloader-enUS.exe of=wow.torrent bs=1 skip=447624 count=200378
      200378+0 records in
      200378+0 records out
      [rallen@rook ftp]$ ls -l wow.torrent
      -rw-rw-r-- 1 rallen rallen 200378 Nov 10 22:45 wow.torrent
      [rallen@rook ftp]$ /usr/bin/BitTorrent-3.4.2/btdownloadcurses.py wow.torrent
      These errors occurred during execution:
      [22:45:37] got bad file info -

    3. Re:Post the .torrents please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the offset is 0x6d490 ( 447632 ) since every other .torrent file i have starts with:

      006d490 3864 613a 6e6e 756f 636e 3365 3a35 7468
      006d4a0 7074 2f3a 312f 2e32 3231 2e39 3332 2e32
      006d4b0 3231 3a35 3733 3432 612f 6e6e 756f 636e
      006d4c0 3165 3a31 6863 6f6f 6573 7020 7461 6968

      but i stil get "bad data from tracker" errors though =(

      other .torrents download fine with my config.

  24. For all those Mac Users out There by Pugio · · Score: 1
    For faster download/better control you can use the normal bittorrent client. All you need to do is cntrl-click/right-click on the "Blizzard Downloader" app and select "Show package contents". Located in the "Resources" folder is the bittorrent file (called "downloader.torrent"). Just double click on that and your normal client should start up and connect without a hitch.

    If you don't have the client you can get it at: http://bittorrent.com/

    I've been following WoW since the beginning as well as having played in the stress test and all I can say is: IT ROCKS!!!!!!!

  25. 'This download is expired!' by skadus · · Score: 1

    I hope this thread hasn't already died... but... I'm getting an odd error message (see comment subject), and nothing's downloading...

    Did I miss out on the damned beta *again*? ::sigh::

    1. Re:'This download is expired!' by Prophetic_Truth · · Score: 1

      you just need to get the client some other way, your login info should be good.

      --
      time is a perception of a being's consciousness
      time is your 6th sense, the wierd ones are 7+
  26. Re:Second Time Through...*but not for me* by StimpyPimp · · Score: 1

    I played the first stress test, but opted out on playing again (I want some other gamer to have the chance playing). Like several of my friends, I thought the game was too cartoony, but after an hour or two of playing, you get over it. It still has nice, smooth graphics. Throw a couple of spells, and you'll see what I mean.

    I had gotten a couple characters to lvl 12, and tried every race/most classes. The geography is well planned, each race having a starting city (with orcs/trolls sharing, and dwarfs/gnomes having the same starting zones). And the dark elves are very secluded.

    For the stress test, I was plesently surprized at how finished it was. I only ran into a couple of visual issues with the world map. Its quailty as an unfinished product was shocking... certainly compared to say...swg.

    Im not an EQ/2 player, but compared to CoH, it offers that same kind of group or independant mission-running fun, plus has PvP right off the bat. And the PvP looks well planned out, including ranks/rewards for those who do well in PvP. Only downside was the limit on how custom the character could be. After CoH, having so few options was a disappointment. WoW didn't have the crack-like addiction of some other games, which was a bit of a relief, but I think I will eventually get into WoW... after I get some HL2 gametime taken care of. ;)

    --
    This signature is part of a balanced post.
  27. Annoyingly... by HarryCaul · · Score: 1

    It seems the link is to a bad downloader version.

    See this page.

    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn =w ow-tech-support&t=34903&p=1&tmp=1#post3490 3

    1. Re:Annoyingly... by skadus · · Score: 1

      That would explain it.

      I already took prophetic truth's advice and I'm at 45.5%... So... I'd make another go at it, but judging from the complaints about the BT settings on the official program I'm probably better off with this.

      Thanks a ton, though. Nice to know it was Blizzard's fault and not mine. ;)

  28. 1 is outdated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just to keep u informed . The way death is handled got changed during the last patch. If you die now, you can either go back to your corpse and lose 10% of all items durability or rezz at the graveyard and loose 100% + exp loss. Sry to disappoint all casual gamers - its still beta - but that is the last status.