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Ask Gabe and Tycho of Penny Arcade

If you're a gamer or a fan of online comics, you've likely already heard of Penny Arcade. Mike "Gabe" Krahulik and Jerry "Tycho" Holkins have been writing and drawing their comic for almost exactly six years under the PA name and in that time they've grown into something of a representative voice for the gaming community. An honesty in dealing with the delays, hype, and frustrations of being a gamer has made their comic into a shared experience for dorks the world over. Recently they've been involved with their games-for-kids charity Child's Play, contract work for game-specific comics, and efforts to improve the grammar of forum posters. They've kindly agreed to answer our questions, so ask away. One question per comment, please. We'll send the best on to the gents and post their responses as soon as we have them.

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  1. I'll post my question anonymously: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Shitcock?

  2. Dear Strong Bad by bperkins · · Score: 5, Funny

    How do you type with boxing gloves on?

  3. Tools by cbrocious · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My question is very simple: What tools do you use (both physical and digital) to create your comics?

    I'm a long-time reader and have always wondered :)

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  4. Advertising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do you pay the guy who links to your comics in almost every article posted on Slashdot? Is there are referal program I can sign up for?

    1. Re:Advertising by Ubergrendle · · Score: 4, Funny
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  5. Best comic other than PA? by aetherspoon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What, in your opinion, is the best internet comic strip other than PennyArcade, and why?

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  6. Question One by dgrgich · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How long does it take for a strip to be born?

  7. Time. by saintlupus · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, who's got the watch these days?

    --saint

  8. They're representatives, all right. by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 4, Funny

    a representative voice for the gaming community

    To say nothing of the juice machine community.

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  9. How does it feel to have your charity... by jarodss · · Score: 4, Funny

    slashdotted?

  10. How come by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    the characters in the comic don't look like you guys?

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    1. Re:How come by Spleener12 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Because when they were originally designed, they weren't supposed to be representing the creators, they were just these two guys. The two guys becoming Tycho and Gabe just kinda happened over time.

    2. Re:How come by David_W · · Score: 4, Funny
      the characters in the comic don't look like you guys?
      We should save that question for when Slashdot interviews the Megatokyo guys.

      Nah, Piro will just say it's because he can't draw and then try to commit seppuku.

  11. Your Job by JediLuke · · Score: 5, Interesting

    how much of your personal life does Penny-Arcade consume? On that note, great job, I love your strip.

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  12. Kickbacks? by Zardus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Over the years, your opinions on various video games have grown to be respected in internet circles, and how games are portrayed in your comic and writeups has an effect on whether or not your fans will buy them.

    Me question is: have any game designers/publishers ever approached you and offered kickbacks for positive reviews, and if so, how do you usually deal with the situation?

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  13. Question Three... by Bloodlent · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Were there any earlier print or web comics that influenced you?

  14. FruitFucker 2000... by stevens · · Score: 5, Funny

    Please list the meds used to come up with that one.

    1. Re:FruitFucker 2000... by Sneeper · · Score: 4, Informative

      Since you asked, here are some relevant links:

      Here
      Here
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      Here
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      Here
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      Here

      You may be wondering why the Elf Only Inn comics are there. On Valentine's Day of this year, PA and EOI did cross-over comics.. The EOI version was a blind date between the Fruit Fucker and one of the characters.

      There is also a more recent Fruit Fucker comic but the site is too slow now to search for it. Enjoy.

  15. The Obvious Question: The Future by Ledneh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No doubt it's nearly impossible to predict where technology is going to go in the far future, but perhaps the near future (say, within five years or so) is somewhat more predictable. Where do you two see gaming in general going within the next five years? MMO's becoming even more mainstream? Some kind of VR control schema becoming usable? Heck, nothing really changing at all?

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  16. First gaming webcomic by genessy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Was Penny Arcade the first, regularly produced gaming webcomic? I read approximately 20 webcomics on a daily basis, and many of them are dedicated to gaming humor or frustration. Were you guys the first, and if so or if not, who or what inspired you?

  17. A Question by Sagara+Sozou · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How do you feel about becoming a big name, one of the things you dispise most? How do you feel about becoming something you have stated hatred to? This is not meant as a flamebait and I await an answer.

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  18. Question Two by dgrgich · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A question for both of you: Name the console and three of its games that you would take to that mythical desert isle.

  19. Gabe and Tycho: by mcc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just curious: Are there any webcomics you read?

  20. The Fruit Fucker 2000 by MoeMoe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What was your inspiration for creating the Fruit Fucker 2000?

    Please dont answer grass, hash, or shrooms...

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  21. Domesitification ... by SuperRob · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Jerry's bought a house, Mike's had a baby boy. How has becoming bona-fide adults changed your lives, and do you find your priorities changing away from drawing comics and playing games.

    Bonus Question: What advice would you give to geeks looking to in some way ensare geek grrls?

    1. Re:Domesitification ... by Skyshadow · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I was thinking about asking them something like this (except for the pathetic how-do-I-meet-women bit at the end), but then I realized that these guys do PA for a living. It's a lot easier to find a few hours to play games when you're not spending 8 hours a day filling out TPS reports. Trust me -- I tried it a few years back on a non-voluntary basis.

      I'd be more interested to hear about how getting older has affected their views on the games themselves. I'm roughly the same age and frankly I find myself less and less tolerant of the BS that surrounds gaming, particularly in terms of online play.

      I mean, there are always losers playing any online game, but the ubiquity of online gaming across both platforms and titles and innovations like the Xbox Live! headphone have lifted these guys out of their little troll caves and brought them out into the open to a degree where even a fairly unique and exciting online game like Pandora Tomorrow quickly became not worth my time. Listening to a stoned 15 year-old ramble on about his personal worldview or try to be shocking just to piss off his teammates just isn't my idea of fun anymore (hint to the 15 year olds out there: I've actually heard words like "cunt" and "jew" enough times and in enough variations that it's just not very interesting anymore. Sorry to pop your bubble).

      So gaming has devolded into either being stuck playing one of the few basic offline games (Quake clones, Warcraft clones, Tekken clones, GTA clones, etc. Oh, and minesweeper) or dealing with the combined stupidity of the internet.

      I know they've done comics about this sort of thing, but apparently they don't find it obnoxious enough to keep them offline for any real length of time.

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    2. Re:Domesitification ... by nzgeek · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Amen brother.

      There's nothing like kids and a mortgage to make you a more discerning game player. I swore that I'd never 'grow up' and stop playing games, but no one ever told me how much fun you can have making and growing babies. Nowadays I'm lucky if I get a couple of hour-long online gaming sessions in each week - hence my preference for the speed and ease of playing online using XBox Live.

      Don't get me wrong, I'm not some wife-harried, tired old fuck, it's just that interacting directly with humans seems to hold more interest for me these days. Plus molding an almost 1-year-old into a functioning individual (not to mention playing RL games with cool toys), is a heck of a lot more fun than pwning fools in Halo 2.

      I'm really interested to see how the whole industry matures as 'hardcore' computer gamers hit 40, 50 and 60. Shit, I'll be looking for interesting games to play when I'm retired in 25-30 years - will there be a new peak of gamers when we all retire? Will the studios rely on tweenies to constantly fill the gap, or will they direct development at that emerging market?

  22. Halo and Bungie by SilentChris · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You guys absolutely roasted the original Halo, then gradually grew to like it. You've said you've met with Bungie since then. Were the meetings amicable?

  23. Collaboration... by kayser_soze · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How far does the collaboration between you two go?

    Does Tycho usually come up with the text/idea for the comic, then Gabe does the art as a separate process or is it more of a collaborative venture?

    Also I stronly suspect that your ideas are born of late night mescalin and tequila induced "adventures". Am I correct?

    [C]

    1. Re:Collaboration... by Speare · · Score: 4, Funny

      Does Tycho usually come up with the text/idea for the comic, then Gabe does the art as a separate process or is it more of a collaborative venture?

      Hm, this sounds familiar.

      • Fan waiting for a signed comic: So you draw this?
      • Artist: I ink it and I m also the colorist. The guy next to me draws it. But we both came up with the characters, ...

        Fan: What's that mean, you ink it?

        Artist: Well. It means that Holden draws the pictures in pencil, and then he gives it to me to go over in ink.

        Fan: So you just trace!

        Artist: It's not tracing. I add depth and shading to give the image more definition. Only then does the drawing really take shape.

        Fan: You go over what he draws with a pen--that's tracing.

        Artist: Not really. Next!

        Fan (to Kid): Hey man. If somebody draws something and then you draw the same thing right on top of it, not going out-side the designated original art what do call that?

        Kid: I don't know. Tracing?

      Now all we need is Jay and Silent Bob to come in and straighten it all out.

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  24. Rise of the Megapublishers by CarrionBird · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Do you think that the industry is doomed to be under the thumb of less than a handful of publishers, buying up every promising studio?(and keeping the cost of promotion so high that small guys could never keep up)

    Or is there a chance for a new wave if independent developers breaking free from the EAs of the world?

    P.S. I loved the Headcrabs expression in the second panel! Brilliant!
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  25. New books. by taeric · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Are there any plans for a new collection of your works?

  26. Favourite console/platform? by oberondarksoul · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Over the years Penny Arcade's been running, you've poked fun at just about every machine to have been launched or speculated at. But which machine was your absolute favourite? If you had to pick just one platform, which would it be, and why?

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  27. Favourite comic? by ecliptik · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Out of all the comics you've done, which one is your all time top favourite, and why?

    Obviously, this is for both of you.

  28. Life outside of games by hng_rval · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How do you spend your free time outside of gaming?

    And on that note, what do you and your spouses do for fun (outside of the apartment)?

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  29. Alias Sketchbook Pro by eMartin · · Score: 4, Informative
  30. Your looks real life vs. comic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why did you choose to use animated personas that look nothing like you do in real life?

  31. Merchandising Gone Crazy? by grum · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What is the craziest merchandising idea that you have (or a company has) come up with, regarding your PA characters? Plush dolls? Pez dispensers?

  32. Do you feel the pressure to self-censor? by Drunken_Jackass · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As you get older and as PA's popularity increases to more of a mainstream level (thanks to the great job you did on last year's Childplay), are you starting to feel the pressures of self-censorship? I mean, how many news anchors could reference the good work you do with Childsplay without giving a "Within that site, there be fruitfuckers" warning?

    Are you becoming too popular to maintain your riske side?

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  33. Response from the industry by Phixxr · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Do you find that you receive a positive or negative response from the gaming industry? Or does this more depend on the reviews you give of their games?

    -Phixxr

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  34. Favourite by JWG · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Which one of your comics is your personal favourite?

  35. Honesty vs. Staying in Business by t1nman33 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One of the things that makes PA so valuable to me is that it shoots from the hip, the heart, and the gut. You guys are perfectly happy being fanboys for games that you love, while skewering those you hate.

    I know PA isn't journalism, but it's not Nintendo Power either. That said, how do you balance your desire to be honest with the needs of running a business?

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  36. Tetris. by DarkHelmet · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are there any plans for the Tetris Movie coming out soon?

    If so, do you get royalties for it?

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  37. Difficulty of making a living via online comics? by Zeddicus_Z · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Guys,

    At the last SAGE-AU conference in Brisbane we had J.D. Frazer ("Illiad") as guest of honor.

    At dinner J.D. spoke of the difficulties he faced in the early years attempting to make a living from comics - the insanely difficult process of being "sydicated" into newspapers, working out a revenue model for a web-based comic when he realised syndication was too restrictive, and generally attempting to make a living doing something he loved.

    With PA and UF being roughly as popular as each other these days and thus (hopefully!) both providing decent incomes, I'd like to hear how you guys coped with "the early years" and how you faced some of what seem to be the common difficulties such as the syndication process, creating a viable revenue model and dealing with early set backs.

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  38. Quitting your day jobs by szquirrel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I understand Penny Arcade is now the sole source of full-time employment for both of you. Presumably this wasn't always so and you both had "real" jobs to pay the bills. At what point did each of you cease to labor for The Man and start devoting your time exclusively to Penny Arcade?

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  39. Note to mods, re: parent comment by Megaweapon · · Score: 4, Informative

    The post is a reference to this Penny Arcade strip.

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  40. East Coast Disrespect? by Apreche · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How come you guys disrespect your east coast readers so much? I mean, you cancelled on our Otakon and you only came here once ever. At a very bad time to a not easy to get to convention. Then you have PAX, which is like the best thing ever, all the way on the other side of the country.

    What will you do to make up for the lack of love for the east coast? If I don't like your answer I'm going to come to PAX2 with water from the Atlantic Ocean and drench both of you with it. Seriously, watch out.

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  41. Regarding Bungie by Grey+Ninja · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In a newspost by Tycho, which I cannot seem to find anymore, Tycho mentioned that your original reviews of Halo, in which playing the game was akin to crucifying your genitilia, was sort of embarassing upon actually meeting the Bungie crew.

    So what I am curious about, is that it seems to me as if as your friendship with the developers increases, it becomes more difficult to express your true viewpoints of the games that you review. Since Microsoft and Bungie treat Penny Arcade with such high regard, it's very difficult to produce the comics of old that genuinely criticized the console and its games.

    To what extent does Penny Arcade plan to take this? I realize that it would not be on any gamers to-do list to pass up a chance at exclusive happenings going on in your area... but I also know from news posts of old that Penny-Arcade does not ever wish to "sell out", and just repeat blindly the big kudos to every popular game out there. (Such as IGN or Gamespy). Is there any thought given to a situation like this?

  42. Fruit Fucker by jockeys · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do any of your readers report being aroused by the Fruit Fucker? Has anyone written in about the delightfully erotic noises it makes when assaulting fruits? I ask because a... uh... friend of mine is like this, and he... uh... is curious is anyone else is similarly afflicted... I mean affected.

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  43. High quality large format artwork? by deacon · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Where can I buy a high quality poster of

    http://mail.rochester.edu/~dr002j/pics/contraband_ comic.jpg Strawberry Shortcake?

    Perhaps the best artwork ever on PA, and the best supressed non-porn artwork anywhere.

  44. My question is... by Dewrf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What is the weirdest thing that has happend or that you recived cence you started penny-arcade? -Jay

  45. Making a living by Cyn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How the heck are you guys making a living! You clearly get the opportunity to try a heck of a lot of games, and you spend time drawing your comic - writing your editorials - going to conventions - and drawing more stuff (I've noticed you've drawn comics for a number of games, in addition to the desktops/etc.).

    Where's the money coming from, certainly not just web advertisements... If you have professional careers, how has your head not exploded among it all?

    (troll) Is it just corporate knockbacks? (/troll)

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  46. Strawberry Shortcake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A little while back, PA had a run-in with American Greetings over the use of the copyrighted and trademarked likeness of Strawberry Shortcake in what was obviously a (protected) work of parody.

    American Greetings got called Nazis, but American McGee's Strawberry Shortcake is still missing from the PA archives.

    What are the reprecussions of the Strawberry Shortcake debacle? If you had it to do over again, either the strip, or your interactions with American Greetings, would you have done anything different?

  47. Penny-Arcade Imitators. by Maul · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anyone who has surfed enough web comics knows that there are a quite a few comics that seem to be PA Wannabes in some fashion. What do you guys really feel about people who blatantly copy the the style or look/feel of your comic? Does it piss you off, or do you simply accept imitators as a price of being one of the most popular comics online?

    Oh, and on a totally separate note, there have been some jabs thrown between you guys and Scott Kurtz. Is it all in good fun, or is is there actually some sort of animocity going on?

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  48. Question for Gabe by GeneralCern · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I discovered Penny-Arcade around the time of the infamous strawberry shortcake debacle. As I went through the old strips gradually working my way towards present day I noticed a huge increase in the quality of the artwork. So here is my question: What would you attribute the noticeable improvement in art and design to? Just the fact that you are doing this everyday and getting better at it? Or did you pursue some formal education?

  49. What ever happened to The Bench? by Alzheimers · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I first started reading PA, it was a comic strip about Gabe and a Squirrel sitting on a bench. After that, there was the worlds first taste of the conflict between Red Vs. Blue (although I think they were Tribes characters, not Halo).

    What was the motivation to change to the now familiar format of Gabe vs Tycho at home and at play? Was it art imitating life, or just a natural progression from simple strips to more complex storylines (the dreaded Continuity!)?

  50. Trends? by Intocabile · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Are there any current gaming trends that you wish would lose momentum and disappear.

    Are there any trends you hope take hold in the future.

  51. Replies by digitac · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Would you please reply to these questions in the form of PA comic strips? Thanks.

  52. Relations with other comic creators by TWX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Having seen numerous Penny Arcade comics poking at other comics, have you had any odd personal interaction with the creators of those comics? What's the weirdest thing to happen as a part of your lampooning, aside from Carlton Cards' reaction?

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  53. Serious question by merlin_jim · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ok I know this is probably the kind of question you answer all day long, but I thought I'd ask anyways as I'm sure there are members of the slashdot community that are interested in the answer:

    What's it take to get you to look at my indie / small design team game? I've always enjoyed your "game round up" posts and wondered how the little guy gets in, or is this an invitation only kind of event? And I'm not trying to infer that you would make a dishonest review with this following question, only that I understand your time is probably stretched thin, so... What kind of bribe is required to ensure coverage? Bottles of liquor, prostitutes, free hardware?

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  54. Alter-ego names? by ShallowThroat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As the wikipedia article on Penny Arcade, your characters/alter-egos full names are Tycho Brahe, after (so we assume) the danish astronomer, and Jonathan Gabriel, who'se only reference I can find in google is a gay male porn star (no, I'm not joking, google "Johnathan Gabriel" yourself)

    Although there are probably a million better questions that could be asked, I'm pretty interested by this little bit of trivia, so I would like to know: How did you come up with these names, and why?

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  55. Question for Tycho by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Despite the fact that you've mentioned a few times that your aspirations don't go much beyond PA, is there any chance your unique writing style may be found elsewhere in the future? Is that even a remote consideration for you?

    On a related note, what kind of offers have you received from mainstream (and not-so-mainstream) publications?

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  56. Re:Uh Oh by Frizzle+Fry · · Score: 4, Funny

    In the first Superman movie, we learned that he is capable of moving time backwards. Thus, he can theoretically do any job (including running a race) in a negative amount of time. How could the Flash possibly be faster than that?

    (I hope this gets modded up enough to get submitted to Tycho and Gabe; yes, it's offtopic, but every question that's been modded up so far is something they've already answered, and as far as I'm concerned, that's even worse).

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  57. A Question on Advertising and Standards by Chambers81 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In the past it has been asserted that the ads run on your site are only ones for games that you approve of. Have you found that game companies come to you with offers that you have to refuse because the games are not good enough? With houses and kids and other real life expenses, do you think your model of advertising only what you believe in will continue to provide you with the income necessary to support the increasing family of Penny Arcade? Keep it up guys, and make some trips out to the East Coast!

  58. Who are you? by kid-noodle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Specifically, who's going to be replying to these questions - Gabe & Tycho, or Mike & Jerry?

    For that matter - how significant is the difference between them?

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  59. An Animated Penny Arcade by Altima(BoB) · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Have you ever considered trying an animated form of Penny Arcade? It seems that your brand of humor makes particular use of precise timing, and while you tend to be successfull at conveying that through comic strip panels, the formula could translate to animation quite well.

    As an animation student myself, I of course have no particular stake in the matter :)

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  60. Returning the worship by InfinityWpi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You guys love games. How did it make you feel to find that Cardboard Tube Samurai got a reference in Hitman: Contracts? Have you found any other PA references in games, manuals, etc that you weren't expecting? How's it feel?

  61. Final question, I swear by {tele}machus_*1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In the recent article about Penny Arcade in the Seattle Times (I think it was the Seattle Times), you made mention that you did not plan on doing PA "forever". Then, on a news post on the PA site, Tycho tried to make it clear that you are not just "grooming PA to sell it to some big company" (quotes, but I'm paraphrasing). How would you classify your business: drawing comics and ads for games companies or publishing a regular web comic? At what point does the independent ad agency bit conflict with or replace the webcomic?

  62. How much money do you guys make from PA? by John_Booty · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I apologize for the crass nature of the question!

    But you guys are living what is essentially the dream life of a gamer - using your writing talents and artistic talents to make a living talking about games. Millions of schlubs all over the world run websites; but you guys managed to produce a website that's better than 99.9999% or more of them and make money doing it. It's not an understatement to say that you're quite an inspiration to those of us who would love to make a living doing that sort of thing. So I can't help but be a little curious about exactly what kinds of financial success it's brought.

    (And whether you answer the question or not... I wish you more success in the future both with loved ones and your business)

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  63. Rivalries by twoallbeefpatties · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The half-serious version:
    Despite having nearly gotten into virtual fisticuffs with Scott Kurtz, amongst other artists, you guys still seem to maintain quite a bit of respect for each other. Do you view the little rivalries as "side quests" for your bigger endeavors, as serious competition, or as just a way to use some of those great insults you've been sitting around thinking about?

    The more humorous version:
    How many different other webcomics and/or their artists can you insult in a single sentence?

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