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Open Source Multimedia Center For Windows

An anonymous reader writes "A new opensourced multimedia center for Windows has been released. Media Portal boasts the ability to turn your PC into an advanced HTPC (Home-Theatre PC) and PVR/DVR (Personal/Digital Video Recorder). It allows you to listen to your favorite music and radio, watch all your video's and DVD's, view, schedule and record live TV and much more. The software is a port of the homebrew Xbox Media Center software which requires a Modded Xbox to run."

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  1. media portal page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    don't link the home page or anything
    http://mediaportal.sourceforge.net/

  2. Re:erm, not 1.0? by Suddenly_Dead · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the homepage:

    There are some rumors floating around about MediaPortal 1.0.

    However this is very wrong, because as you can see below we just released 0.1. The current version 0.1 is not considered as the first stable release and it is definitely not final!

    This does not mean the product is an alpha release! The 0.1 is considered a very nice and stable beta release, which everyone can and should test and help out to fix bugs and/or improve the product even further. And remember: it is free forever!

  3. Re:Open Source for Windows ? by nosaj72 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've been running this for a while. It just runs on regular Windows, not the XBOX. It is just a port of the XBOX Media Program. Not bad for keeping a nice queue of DIVX movies at the ready for the kids.

  4. The server's already running slow... by rjelks · · Score: 4, Informative

    The project is at SourceForge if you guys want to give maxconsole a break.

    1. Re:The server's already running slow... by Cplus · · Score: 2, Funny

      Your mother looks like ass in FireFox, however this page looks much the same in IE, FireFox or Mozilla.

      Are you happy? I wasted a whole two minutes of my life on this. That's two minutes less that I get to live, it's like you murdered me a little bit with a tiny, little knife.

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  5. Um.. by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    It allows you to listen to your favorite music and radio, watch all your video's and DVD's, view, schedule and record live TV and much more.

    Clearly a threat to Copyrights, Profits and Homeland Security. In certain the authorities (MPAA/RIAA/Microsoft have already been notified and are moving the threat level up from Plaid to Paisley)

    The software is a port of the homebrew Xbox Media Center software which requires a Modded Xbox to run."

    Now I'm certain Microsoft will be activating their Bucket 'o Lawyers* The only people allowed to give away something like that for free must have an ulterior motive, such as locking everyone into mind control or market share...

    *Not to be confused with the toys Bucket o' Soldiers or Barrel o' Monkeys, but toys of their masters all the same.

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    1. Re:Um.. by panurge · · Score: 4, Funny
      Plaid to Paisley? That's worrying. Plaid Cymru just burns down the houses of the English settlers, but the Rev. Ian Paisley shouts stupid things really really loudly.

      So where is that on the Fonda-Rumsfeld threat scale?

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  6. Re:Media Portal by sp00 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ummm.... yeah... Linky!

  7. Hardware by hoggoth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This could be interesting.
    What is the most inexpensive hardware with enough OOMPH to run this?

    I looked at Mini-ITX systems, and the HUSH grabbed my eye. Then the price grabbed me somewhere else.

    And I don't really want to get an XBOX then modify it, so don't give me the obvious answer...

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    1. Re:Hardware by 74nova · · Score: 2, Funny

      hehe, im presently taking a break from coding in C++ and saw the OO in 'OOMPH' and thought to myself,

      'Object Oriented...Multimedia...Player...Hardware?'

      huh? ah well. back to coding...

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    2. Re:Hardware by kaustik · · Score: 2, Informative

      An Xbox will not act as a DVR, as far as I know. I use the XBMP to play media from my Xbox onto my television, but the Xbox does not have a TV card needed to capture the feed from the television. This port is very very cool because it allows you to run the app on hardware that is much more upgradable than the Xbox. I will definitely check this out.

    3. Re:Hardware by jarich · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Why do you say that about Myth?

      I am running a 1.2 ghz Thunderbird (AMD) w/256 megs of a memory and a ~really~ cheap ($10) capture card and it's working fine.

      A lot of the people in the Myth forums go on about how you need a P4 3 ghz chip, but it just isn't so.

    4. Re:Hardware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Two things you should know. Compared to other HTPC software Media Portal is slow on older systems. In fact in general parts of it are just kinda slow. For example MYHTPC and many other htpc packages run very well on say a PIII700 256MB system, this does not. Second it only supports cards that do mpeg2 in hardware. That obviously made things easier for them but it really let down a ton of users when they dropped support for non-mpeg2 tv cards for recording.

      The one good thing is its acutally opensource. That doesn't mean the original devs won't leave to make their own commercial proprietary htpc programs but at least the project can live on unlike myhtpc which I had mentioned above. Considering the current glut of htpc frontends etc on win32 these days it is a little worrying that this is the only truly open one. :( Most people just don't want to code open HTPC software except on linux.

      Another decent option is GotAllMedia which is coming along nicely. Its also Free but as in beer. I highly suggest you check it out. http://www.gottvpvr.com/

    5. Re:Hardware by sepluv · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Or get one of the guys on the "X-Box Chocolate Project" to do it for you.

      You find a local X-box modder on that list and (s)he mods your X-box (hardware or software) or just your memory card and you give them chocolate or their suggsted gift for the service.

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  8. Re:Open Source for Windows ? by norminator · · Score: 3, Informative

    Does it still require the MFC to be compiled ? If this is the case I then fail to see the interest of this especially when it requires an Xbox and then Micorsoft to gain alittle money from the operation.

    They're saying that it's a port of the XBox app, which has already been around for a while. The new app is a Windows-based product and does not require an XBox

  9. Re:Open Source for Windows ? by thempstead · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Media Portal software appears to be a port of the media center from the xbox platform to normal Windows. Hence it doesn't require an Xbox. I.e. from the requirements page it specifies WinXP SP1 or SP2.

    t

  10. Re:Open Source for Windows ? by turnage · · Score: 2, Informative

    Some people don't read the articles, others don't even read the post.

    Read this part once again and notice the "is a port of the" part then finish off with the "which requires a" part:
    The software is a port of the homebrew Xbox Media Center software which requires a Modded Xbox to run.

  11. Re:HAHA by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Insightful
    An Open Source solution running on Microsoft branded hardware.

    You're still paying the Micrsoft tax after all.

    Actually, if you buy the Xbox but no games for it you're screwing Microsoft, since the box is a loss-leader. The real revenue is games and services.

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  12. Not 1.0 by Gathers · · Score: 3, Informative

    This just in from http://mediaportal.sourceforge.net/

    Latest News

    01-December 2004

    IMPORTANT NEWS PLEASE READ THIS!

    There are some rumors floating around about MediaPortal 1.0.

    However this is very wrong, because as you can see below we just released 0.1. The current version 0.1 is not considered as the first stable release and it is definitely not final!

    This does not mean the product is an alpha release! The 0.1 is considered a very nice and stable beta release, which everyone can and should test and help out to fix bugs and/or improve the product even further. And remember: it is free forever!

  13. Features on the XBOX.... by Aceto3for5 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Alot of people also use this as the dashboard, or OS so to speak, of their modded XBOXes. The version I have also has some built in VOIP capabilities. With VOIP locked into a media center, you could simulate the full movie theater experience, with everyone talking to each other during the movie.

    Seriously though, comedies tend to seem funnier in theaters, i think in part to the fact that you are with a bunch of other people laughing. Its like how children, and some adults, look around before or while they are laughing, as if they are looking for approval.

    VOIP in a media center could also be fun and useful for streaming educational videos, sporting events, sales, what have you. I hope they port those options over too. Forgive me if they mentioned that in TFA, but i couldnt seem to connect to it.

  14. Re:Confusing... by bellevueGeek · · Score: 3, Informative


    Well it would be if it was for the fact that it is for xp.

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  15. Does it come with... by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...an extraneous apostrophe remover?

    1. Re:Does it come with... by qute · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is a must: Bob's Quick Guide to the Apostrophe

      non-cached: http://www.angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif
      (My first post was in error :-( )

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    2. Re:Does it come with... by Graabein · · Score: 2, Funny
      While fully realizing that this is Slashdot, and not the New York Times, I'd just like to share the response I got from the Public Editor at the NYT when I complained about their use of apostrophes in headlines like "NEW DVD'S":

      Dear Graabein,

      Thank you for your message.

      I include The Times stylebook entry on this subject below.

      Sincerely,
      [Name withheld by me]
      Office of the Public Editor
      The New York Times

      Also use the apostrophe for plurals formed from letters or numerals (p's and q's; size 7's; B-52's) and terms like PC's, TV's and VCR's. While many authorities prefer to omit the apostrophe in these cases, it is necessary for clarity in all-uppercase headlines. Therefore use it in other kinds of copy also, for consistency.

      To which I replied:

      I see. I guess I will just have to respectfully disagree with The New York Times stylebook then. I was going to write at length about why, but mercifully (for us all) I remembered this little gem by Dave Barry and decided to include it instead (reproduced here entirely without permission):

      Dear Mister Language Person: What is the purpose of the apostrophe?

      Answer: The apostrophe is used mainly in hand-lettered small business signs to alert the reader than an "S" is coming up at the end of a word, as in: WE DO NOT EXCEPT PERSONAL CHECK'S, or: NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY ITEM'S.

      Another important grammar concept to bear in mind when creating hand- lettered small-business signs is that you should put quotation marks around random words for decoration, as in "TRY" OUR HOT DOG'S, or even TRY "OUR" HOT DOG'S.
      --Tips for Writer's

      Note the use of all-uppercase and the impression conveyed.

      Thank you for taking the time to reply to my email.

      Best regards,
      Graabein

      I never heard back from the Public Editor.

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    3. Re:Does it come with... by jazman · · Score: 2, Funny

      > I guess I will just have to respectfully disagree...I never heard back

      Perhaps he just didn't want to argue the finer points of grammar with someone who likes splitting infinitives.

  16. Slightly on-topic... by blackmonday · · Score: 4, Informative

    I just got my Xbox modded yesterday, and it included the excellent XBMC. Only problem is upgrading it. My version is a few months behind, and you cannot download binaries from Sourceforge, because the project must be compiled with Microsoft's dev kit for the Xbox, and XBMC is an unlicensed project. I still have not figured out how to get binaries!

    This project is compiled with Vanilla .NET, I tried running it on my PC before modding my Xbox and it crashed every time I tried to do anything, I might download and try again.

    Although modding an Xbox isn't for the faint of heart (I just had someone else do it), it's fun and the software you get is very powerful. I was up and running with MP3's burnt on a DVD-R and some Divx TV shows. By the way, you can make XBMC be the default program when you boot the Xbox, if thats all you want to use your console for.

    1. Re:Slightly on-topic... by Vaevictis666 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Xbins runs an FTP that you can download latest XBMC from, join #xbins on efnet. Otherwise, try looking for a torrent of it (there's usually a weekly one on suprnova)

  17. I for one by uberjoe · · Score: 2, Funny

    welcome our new open source overlords.

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  18. Needs beefy hardware by oneeyedelf1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I remember awhile ago I installed this a long time ago when it first started development, and it still supported my old hauppauge card and my Riva TNT2 video card, Installed it yesterday when I saw 0.1.0.0 was released and it doesnt even open, read the min requirements, and you NEED a mpeg2 hardware encoder, WMP9 which crashes my system so I refuse to install it, and a directx 9 card. After my frusttration yesterday, I convinced myself maybe I should install mythtv, Not sure if I will need a mpeg2 encoder for time shifting, but it will be a fun project over the break.

  19. That's hardly the point... by spoco2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The point is:
    * The VAST majority of computer users are using Windows ie... they've already paid for it, so it's not an issue (ie. it came with their computer or whatever)
    * They don't want to wipe it out completely to install a media center
    * Things like this can exist harmoniously with Windows, and can be tried before wiping it all out... or you can use the computer for both purposes (htpc and normal)

    There is another free (not open source) windows based media pc solution... It's called myHTPC.

    Now, it's since turned into a paid product called Meedio, however you can still get the free version and have access to a gazillion (oh yeah baby, that's a number) plugins for it.

  20. Re:HAHA by plover · · Score: 4, Interesting
    No, the OSS community does not need to "get rid of him." But they do need to understand that not everyone is going 100% open source. I'm running Windows at home because the games and apps I want are Win32 platform based. I'm a developer whose day job is programming on a Win32 app, and so I need to use Windows all day long. Does that mean I'm opposed to open source? Of course not, I run several open source apps, and have contributed to a few.

    I usually ignore both sides of the OSS / Microsoft debate, but in this case the attitude of "trow da bums out" is just too divisive. If you're OK with paying Microsoft dues, then fine. If Robyanetta is avoiding it, that's fine too. Just both of you should recognize the other point of view isn't going away, and you should learn to cooperate on the common ground that exists between you.

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  21. MythTV clone? by Gothmolly · · Score: 2, Funny

    What does this do, besides lack any substantial development history, that MythTV doesn't do?

    That being said, it seems to be working great on my Xbox, that mighty 733MHz P3 w/no hw MPEG capabi...BUFFERING...

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    1. Re:MythTV clone? by skadus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, for one thing it installs a hell of a lot easier.

      I gave up on MythTV after having to fight with it and Fedora (and dependencies, and X, and Y...) at the same time. Why do I need MySQL when I just want a media player with a NES and SNES emulator built-in (no need or space on my media box for PVR)?

      Yeah, PEBKAC, and I'll never profess to be anything but sub-adequate at Linux, but MediaPortal installed and ran fine in about 5 minutes from download to setup.

  22. Re:DO NOT CLICK CACHE OF GOAT.CX by sploo22 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Except that the destination part of the URL can be trivially spoofed. The base64 hash is what really determines the page you get.

    Demonstration: http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:zhool8dxBV4J: www.microsoft.com/+&hl=en This takes you to google's cache of its own home page, not to Microsoft.

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  23. Re:Use Linux for PVR by hackstraw · · Score: 2, Funny

    On a side note, I should write a HOWTO on how I found the perfect Geek wife.

    Yes, you should. I havn't heard of an American woman under 40 that cooks, cleans, and pays bills without also being a psycho bitch on the side. If she still does this in 5 years (without bitching)...

    Wow. I'm speechless, and thats hard for me to say.

  24. Re:Use Linux for PVR by rewt66 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can't speak for the grandparent, but...

    Yes, I found her. She's under 40, cooks, and pays the bills. She cleaned until a couple years ago, when as a birthday present I got her someone to come in and clean every other week.

    "If she still does this in 5 years"? Try 14. Yes, she still does. And no, she's not a psycho.

    Where did I find such a gem? In church. (What, you thought I found someone like that in a bar?)

  25. Re:Confusing... by BobPaul · · Score: 2

    It's not for XBox... It's for Windows. It's a PORT of a program that origionated on the XBox.

  26. Media Portal is nowhere near prime-time by brunes69 · · Score: 4, Informative
    I tried this software a few months back, and I must say, while I was comparing it to an already mature piece of software (MythTV), it was certainly not up to snuff. It was incredibly slow to launch from my standpoint (this was on an Athlon 2400XP ), took over 20 seconds for the GUI to launch - probably due to it being in .Net. After launch, only a few functions were usable, and the system frequently crashed.

    On the whole - if you are looking for some free PVR software NOW, get MythTV or Freevo. There are excellent tutorials on the net on how to set up a MythTV system - from scratch - no hardcore Linux skills required.

    1. Re:Media Portal is nowhere near prime-time by SnprBoB86 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "probably due to it being in .Net"

      On what basis do you ground that hypothosis?

      All versions of VC#.NET require the .NET framework be loaded, but 2002 takes nearly a minute to load where as the 2005 beta loads in less than 3 seconds on my machine. .NET does incur some startup cost (the CLR needs to be initalized) and code needs to be JITed, but this should hardly take 20 seconds!

      There are full featured high performance 3D engines written with .NET, let's have no more FUD about .NET's performance!

      The startup sequence is probably just poorly optimized.

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  27. Re:HAHA by mattyrobinson69 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    i use gentoo and before that slackware, ive never had to chmod my dsp device, even on advanced distro's like gentoo and slackware.

    sound is now very easy using alsa (alsaconf)

    device management is now very very easy using
    udev, hotplug and coldplug

    package management (including dependancies) is very simple now using apt-get or emerge (slackware's not there yet).

    i cant think of anything else that supposed to be hard, but im sure its not quite there for everybody.

    maybe its just because im now used to using linux and it seems natural and actually find it easier to use than windows (it does what i tell it rather than guessing what it thinks i want).

    Im sure times have changed since last time you tried installing a distro at home, if you get time try one.

    *not a troll, but i am now familiar with linux and prefer administering it in a home environment to windows and i know that things were not always this easy.

  28. Re:Compare to other solutions? by hkb · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why not try SageTV? It's mature, inexpensive, pretty stable, and nicely designed. It's even hackable (via STV modules) to boot. People have already written STV mods for weather, early itunes functionality, and a web interface for it.

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  29. What does this do that MythTV doesnt? by billybob · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd say RUNS ON WINDOWS is a pretty damn big feature that MythTV lacks. :P

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  30. Re:Compare to other solutions? by bLindmOnkey · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why not try Knoppmyth(http://www.mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html )? It's a package of Knoppix with MythTV already installed.He's made it mucchhh easier for anyone to install mythtv without any hassle. All you need to do is pop the cd in and install. However, you'll need to repartition or wipe clean your hard drive before installing.