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SpikeTV "Video Game Awards" Results

Last night SpikeTV aired its second annual Video Game Awards. Commentary is available from the Video Game Ombudsman, who did some live blogging during the event. From his post: "Seven Awards in 50 seconds - And that's including the lame intro. and Bloodrayne's 9 second acceptance "speech" for cyber-vixen of the year. Way to stand there, BloodRayne. The categories and winners aren't even vaguely related. And these are major awards, not the largely immaterial technical awards at the Oscars. Oh well, I guess now they can squeeze in another musical number." Grimwell Online is also available for snarky analysis, as is Buttonmashing.com. For non-flash results, Voodoo Extreme has a list of the winners.

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  1. With the elocution skills of Mr. Dogg: by TeleoMan · · Score: 2, Funny
    DOOM TREY IN DA HIZZY!

    Word.

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  2. Well, it was on SpikeTV by MBraynard · · Score: 5, Funny
    what's their tag line? Oh yeah, "TV for immature men."

    That network is the only reason I've ever felt ashamed of having a penis. I can now empathize with the African American's feelings about Amos and Andy.

    1. Re:Well, it was on SpikeTV by justforaday · · Score: 3, Funny

      That network is the only reason I've ever felt ashamed of having a penis. I can now empathize with the African American's feelings about Amos and Andy.

      Were Amos and Andy ashamed of having penises too?

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    2. Re:Well, it was on SpikeTV by fireduck · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      That network is the only reason I've ever felt ashamed of having a penis.

      Spike isn't all bad. They show CSI re-runs back to back on weekdays from 7 til 9 pm. Other than that, yes they suck. And I've very glad this stupid award show is over with. The promo commercials--every break--and the overlay graphics went way past annoying. now I can watch my CSI in peace.

    3. Re:Well, it was on SpikeTV by Bloomy · · Score: 2, Funny

      If all black stereotypes made it into the show, they wouldn't have had any reason to be.

    4. Re:Well, it was on SpikeTV by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The only spike show I've ever seen is MXC and it's absolutely hilarious. I don't think it's on anymore, though?

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    5. Re:Well, it was on SpikeTV by MBraynard · · Score: 1

      that's rich dude. That's good. +5 funny

    6. Re:Well, it was on SpikeTV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you ever actually watched Amos and Andy? Giving leading roles to black men, and portraying them as employed and self confident was quite progressive for the 40's. That and Andy was a white guy.

      Of course it was still a sit-com, so they had to come up with "wacky" situations, but its nothing compared to the stereotyping that Will and Grace does of gay men.

    7. Re:Well, it was on SpikeTV by mbourgon · · Score: 1

      Still on, with new episodes this month, including this Thursday. Not sure why you can't find it - they show it frickin' all the time.

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    8. Re:Well, it was on SpikeTV by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      For awhile, they were the only game in town for seeing Star Trek: The Next Generation on TV. I haven't watched in a long while (as I'm currently going through a 'Seinfeld' phase on TBS), but I assume they're still showing Star Trek, right?

    9. Re:Well, it was on SpikeTV by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Because I don't have cable. :)

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    10. Re:Well, it was on SpikeTV by jandrese · · Score: 1

      I've often wondered if it is the same way Women feel when Tivo accidentally grabs something off of Oxygen.

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    11. Re:Well, it was on SpikeTV by rpillala · · Score: 1

      I don't think Amos and Andy made people ashamed of being black.

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    12. Re:Well, it was on SpikeTV by jnik · · Score: 1

      MXC is reasonably amusing, but Takashi's Castle is drop-down hilarious, even raw. Somehow I doubt I'll ever get the chance to see it subbed.

    13. Re:Well, it was on SpikeTV by thebagel · · Score: 1

      Still showing Trek, both TNG and DS9. However, it's mostly reruns of the same frickin' episodes. Anyone care to shed light on that?

    14. Re:Well, it was on SpikeTV by WAG24601G · · Score: 1

      SpikeTV probably only contracts for a single season of TNG and a single season of DS9 at a time. But a season contains how many episodes? 20-25ish? When the show has a daily time slot, they run out of fresh episodes quick and do a lot of recycling

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    15. Re:Well, it was on SpikeTV by MBraynard · · Score: 1

      Maybe you are right - I was just reaching for something. The Gay and Will and Grace thing is probably a better example.

  3. In a word... by blueZhift · · Score: 1

    it sucked! The show just seemed clumsy and trying way too hard to be crass. Is there such a thing as too much hip hop? Well...YES! Next time a wider variety of music and some real fun in presenting the awards that doesn't involve so much swearing. And this is coming from someone who likes hip hop, when it's actually good that is. Snoop Dogg, you sooo disappointed me!

    1. Re:In a word... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It sucking surprised you? I watched it last year and was also very disappointed. So I skipped it this year and watch Earthsea instead.

    2. Re:In a word... by fafaforza · · Score: 1

      There was a great program at the same time on OLN about a couple that met with a hurricane in the open sea. The man vanished in a single instant, and the woman sailed to Hawaii with a makeshift sail. Very moving and more interesting than the awards.

    3. Re:In a word... by blueZhift · · Score: 1

      I should have watched this. I turned off the awards after Snoop's first rap which made it quite clear that there was no hope of the show getting better. EGM magazine did a pretty good games show on Spike earlier this year or maybe last year that was much much better. So naively I had high hopes for the awards show. I won't be watching this next year!

    4. Re:In a word... by Pxtl · · Score: 1

      Fuck! I missed it! Damn, I forgot it was on.

  4. difference between VGAs and Oscars by Jabolio · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The difference between these award shows and, say, the Oscars is that the actors who are accepting awards at the Oscars are people we know (not personally, for the most part), and also they can actually speak when they get up to the podium.

    On the other hand, the chumps that make video games are usually not very well known (outside of a select few, your Carmacks, your Meiers, etc...), and we as a viewing public don't really give a shit about who they are and what they have to say, because chances are they aren't going to be able to say it interestingly anyway. Just like the technical Oscars.

    On the other hand, who's the target demo for this sort of thing? Late teens and early 20's males. Let's cram as much crap as we possibly can into a couple of hours! They should just give in and not bother censoring... Anyone who'd be offended by the tripe they'll show probably isn't going to be watching anyway.

    /didn't watch it this year//watched it last year, "meh"s all around.

    1. Re:difference between VGAs and Oscars by mrseigen · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, the only people who went up to accept awards and talk were publishers. I liked how for Halo 2, when it came down to the music guy and the Microsoft representative, the Microsoft representative grabs the award, makes a snide comment, and takes off.

    2. Re:difference between VGAs and Oscars by mahdi13 · · Score: 1

      That "Award List" looks more like the current top 20 games list...who funded this show again? Sony?

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    3. Re:difference between VGAs and Oscars by mrseigen · · Score: 1

      EA, it looks like...

  5. Caught a few minutes by astrokid · · Score: 3, Funny

    Luckily it was when Brooke Burke was being presented the prize for Best Human Female Performance(?)

    wow. ::drool:: (At that point in time I was inclined to believe that this was the Best.Awards.Show.Ever) , however as soon as she walked off stage I changed the channel.

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    1. Re:Caught a few minutes by Otter · · Score: 1
      Heh, that was the 30 seconds I watched also, and as in your case, I changed the channel as soon as she walked offstage. (I think it was halftime of the Whatever The Hell It Was Bowl -- is that when you wandered over too?)

      Who is she? I've never heard of her.

    2. Re:Caught a few minutes by BlueCodeWarrior · · Score: 1

      Check out the Stuff that's on newsstands right now. There's an insert with the 'Girls of Gaming'...apparently shes' in NFS2 or something like that, but the picture of her is effing hot as hell.

    3. Re:Caught a few minutes by evanfrey · · Score: 1

      shes a porn star. i have this video of her with a... well, never mind. google her.

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  6. Shades of Spinal Tap by Picass0 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Video Game Awards

    and

    Motley Crew

    1. Re:Shades of Spinal Tap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. It's worse.

      Spike TV Video Game Awards
      and
      Motley Crue

      I hope they define "Spike TV Video Game Awards, n." as "the only thing worse than Puppet Show" in the next edition of the Dictionary.

      And I hope Motley Crue will switch to Free Jazz for a while before they break up for good.

  7. Well at least I know one thing. by j0nkatz · · Score: 0, Funny

    People can now no longer make fun of WWE RAW being the dumbest show on Spike.

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  8. Grumble. by jwriney · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Stuff like this makes me sad. The MTV-ization of gaming culture has begun and it's not pretty. The people Spike, G4, and MTV call "gamers" are not the kids that grew up playing Nintendo; they're the kids that grew up beating up the kids that played Nintendo. This is the demographic whose entire gaming universe consists of Madden, GTA, and Tony Hawk.

    It's fake enthusiasm, style over substance, blatant product placement, EXTREME! everything bullcrap. Watch an episode of The Screen Savers on G4 if you want to know what I'm talking about. Now that the pointy-hairs have finished lobotomizing the show, the new hosts haven't figured out that reading the teleprompter VERY! ENTHUSIASTICALLY! is no substitute for knowing about or giving a damn about what they're reading. It's acutely unwatchable.

    I think I understand now how the old-school punk rockers felt when their culture got subverted by the unceasing quest for corporate profits.

    --riney

    1. Re:Grumble. by adisakp · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The MTV-ization of gaming culture has begun and it's not pretty. The people Spike, G4, and MTV call "gamers" are not the kids that grew up playing Nintendo; they're the kids that grew up beating up the kids that played Nintendo.

      Home gaming is a commodity. What used to require thousands of dollars in an arcade to display primitive graphics has now been ecclipsed by inexpensive home machines for under $150 that offer compelling immersive experiences that compete with movies for your entertainment budget.

      Gamers these days grew up with Doom, not Pacman. Of course these kids are going to expect a little more glitz.

    2. Re:Grumble. by Servo5678 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If it were possible I'd mod your post up into triple digits. The style over substance kind of thing is the attitude that is wounding gaming today, and unfortuately it's only going to get worse. Let them have their glitzy games; I'll be having fun with my GameCube.

    3. Re:Grumble. by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I mostly question their choice of venue... "hip hop". I mean, sure, they're trying to drive home the point that games can be cool, but you don't need to use a friggin anvil to do it. Secondly, most people in my experience who play enough video games to watch the awards most decidedly do not listen to rap music, or "urban", or whatever they're calling themselves this week. Rappists should stick with their existing, large, and vocal fanbase, and stop trying to expand and "bring deir music to da people."

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    4. Re:Grumble. by adisakp · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The combination of Hip hop and video games together is pretty big right now. A lot of rappers and hip hop artists are very vocal about their support for video games.

      The new GTA has a very hip hop gangsta feel and a supporting soundtrack. NBA Ballers (a 1M+ platinum seller) has MC Supernatural and is full of underground jams.

      Have you noticed the soundtrack even in Madden the last couple years has leaned more and more heavily towards "urban" music. I used to be on a team that was a Madden competitor and one of the things that was remarked in the design of the game was that we needed to target a more "urban" audience since that is where Madden gets a surprisingly large amount of their sales.

      The rappers aren't necessarily the ones pushing for this. Quite a bit of it's coming from video game publishers who are putting more and more big name rappers and hip hop soundtracks in their products. At least from what I've seen, most of the times, the video games makers seek the musicians out, not the other way around... you only hear about musicians seeking to be on video game soundtracks for huge games like Doom.

      ... and in other news on the music-video game connection on the front page, iTunes is now selling video game soundtracks...

    5. Re:Grumble. by FriedTurkey · · Score: 1

      Gaming Culture??? What??? During the Nintendo days everybody was playing. Grandmas, six year olds, teenagers - everyone played Nintendo from 1988-1990.

      There is no gaming culture. People just play games.

      If your inferring that Madden, GTA, and Tony Hawk are "jock" games; that is completely stupid. I play those games and I am so far from being a jock. What kind of games must I play to be in the "gaming culture"?

      Unlike punk rock, there has never been a console game created that wasn't designed for profit. I dare you to name one console game developed without maximum profit in mind.

    6. Re:Grumble. by Torgo's+Pizza · · Score: 1

      You're slightly mistaken. Considering the average age of a gamer is 29, that person did grow up playing Pac-Man. The problem is that the producers of the VGAs understand their audience and pander down to the smaller end of the gaming segment. Much like the MTV Movie Awards, it's aimed at a young group of people who accept anything force fed to them.

      It's not like it matters in the long run. Game developers as a whole are more disgusted with the show than the fans are. Getting a VGA is like your college team going to the Motor City Bowl game... no one really cares. We'll stick to the AAIA awards and the GDC Spotlight awards thank you. They matter the most.

    7. Re:Grumble. by Spunk · · Score: 1

      Heh. Rappists.

    8. Re:Grumble. by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      The guys at Penny Arcade analyzed this very subject with humor. And hitted the nail in the head, IMHO.

    9. Re:Grumble. by BTWR · · Score: 1
      Well, I agree that in the end, profit is #1, BUT... I can point out that there are several companies (like nintendo) who could be making more profit if they wanted to.

      The could be publishing a new zelda and Mario every year like EA does. There has been only 2 traditional mario games released since 1994 (Mario 64 and Mario Sunshine), and before you say it - yes, they release a LOT of "spin-off" mario games. But.. they could ALSO release a lot of shitty mario game every year or the exact same fun ones with a different background every year too.

      I love the GTA series. But GTA1 and 2 was the same game and GTA3, VC and SA all seem the same game to me as well (but again, ALL fun). Mario could have had 3 sequels on the N64 and 3 on the gamecube and all would have been million sellers.

      So yes, I agree that they want maximum profit, but they DO also hold back, in my opinion. AND... nintendo for one also takes care of it's fans (FREE zelda bonus discs??? Those RULED! And probably 90% of the people who got them were going to preorder the game anyway)

    10. Re:Grumble. by poptones · · Score: 1

      I think I understand now how the old-school punk rockers felt when their culture got subverted by the unceasing quest for corporate profits.

      As an old school punk, I'm not so sure about that. Believe it or not, punk was, at one time, just about making music. No business needed, just pick up an instrument and thrash. It wasn't even about "talent" - it was just about the need to make noise and be heard. It was pure expression of an ideal.

      Videogames have, so long as there have been consoles. ALWAYS been about making money. Sorry, but no matter how cool you feel because you're one of a teeny minority playing videogame x.23, that game still was spawned from corporate investor boards, copyrights, patents and licenses.

      Complaining about corporate culture dominating an awards show is like complaining about the wolf having teeth and fur. If you're allergic to fur and you want to avoid being bitten by the teeth, stay the fuck away from the wolf.

    11. Re:Grumble. by jnik · · Score: 1

      This also reflects what an acquaintance of mine calls "the blackinization of American culture." Leaving aside questions of accuracy, fidelity, respect, etc. etc., pop culture is reflecting more of an "African-American" sensibility. Most of it isn't much to my taste (read whatever racism into that you may like). Might be another example of the trends that culminated in Benny Goodman at Carnegie Hall or Elvis, or maybe it represents the end of white performers "introducing" a style to mainstream America. Either way, it's happening.

      I do chuckle at the euphamism of "urban" especially since it's fairly disconnected from neo-urbanism.

    12. Re:Grumble. by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 1
      I think it's "urban", as opposed to "metropolitan". You know, white people with nice cars and cel phones and briefcases. Dey is, uh, from da hood, yo. 'n stuff.

      This goes back to another post of mine from some other article, about conformity and acceptance. People's social habits change, their clothing, mode of speech and taste in music, in response to that they are told is cool. "You are free to do as we tell you" mentality. Read whatever insensitive cloddity and racism into that as you see fit.

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    13. Re:Grumble. by bedouin · · Score: 1

      Gaming Culture??? What??? During the Nintendo days everybody was playing. Grandmas, six year olds, teenagers - everyone played Nintendo from 1988-1990.

      There is no gaming culture. People just play games.


      Exactly. The gaming industry has always been divided into casual consumers and hardcore gamers. The Madden of today is the Tecmo Bowl of the 80s. 'Jock' and games targeted toward the lowest common denominator have always existed, and there's nothing inherently wrong with them (I'm totally not into sports, but played hours of Madden on Genesis).

      The difference nowadays is that since non-technical people have become forced to interact with electronics, they feel a need to conqueror them. Shows like this and TechTV help them feel as if they're not defeated by the machines that crash and confuse them on a daily basis. You know the guy who made his web page in Frontpage, with animated GIFs and tacky marquees, who feels he's conquered the world? That's the target audience for this, and that's the essence of recent Geek Chic.

    14. Re:Grumble. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A little off topic, but...
      Despite what you are subjected to via radio and television, there is a large and growing selection of hip hop music that is actually intelligent and presentable. Not all of it is centered around gaster fucking bitch niggers with guns. I thought I hated rap/hip hop as well until a friend of mine turned me on to some of the more conscious hip hop artists. Check out these for starters:
      http://www.astralwerks.com/kos/default. html
      http://www.zionicrew.com/
      http://www.upabov e.com/visionaries.php

    15. Re:Grumble. by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 1
      I know there's actually some intelligent stuff out there, but it just so happens that I don't like, or even understand it. It's a personal thing. I'm not saying people who do are dumb / crazy / etc... hell, I know a lot of people who don't like my kind of music, and they're smarter than me.

      K-Os, I have to say, is frighteningly catchy, and despite my best efforts, I like his stuff. It's actually music, not just swearing and ebonics put to a drum machine. That doesn't help that the majority of hip-hop that makes it to the mainstream media (MuchMusic, MuchVibe, local radio) is bling bitch gangbang bust-a-cap-tastic.

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    16. Re:Grumble. by FriedTurkey · · Score: 1

      I do think a company like Nintendo does seek to do quality work and is loyal to their customers. I think a lot of that attitude is about maximizing profit because it wants to hold on to a loyal customer. Nintendo is worried about killing the brand of Mario with crappy games. So really Nintendo is trying to maximize profit in the long run.

      Look at the Tomb Raider series. They cashed in for lots of quick crappy games that were the same. Now the franchise is worthless. Nobody is waiting for the next Tomb Raider game.

  9. Useless by Monokeros · · Score: 1

    Yah, I saw about 60 seconds of that bloody farce. I flipped in long enough for some bimbo to say "my goal next year is to learn to play one video game. ONE!" Then I flipped to something else.

    WTF!! How much credibility can an award have when its participants don't even partake in the art being awarded. Then again, Ashlee Simpson RECIEVED a Billboard Award so I guess a little integrity is too much to ask from awards distributors.

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    1. Re:Useless by Moby+Cock · · Score: 1

      I fully agree with all of your points, with one caveat. The "Hot Girls with Cheat Codes" segement (I only saw one) was friggin' funny.

  10. results? by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 0, Redundant

    But who won what? (I don't even dare to ask "why")

    1. Re:results? by jlapier · · Score: 1

      Here's a few:

      GOTY: GTA:SA
      Best Action Game: GTA:SA
      Best FPS: Halo 2
      Best PC Game: HL2
      Best Graphics: HL2
      Best Military Game: CoD: Finest Hour

      and son on and so forth .... it's Spike TV - I turned it off after the "Hot Chix Read Cheat Codes" segment....

    2. Re:results? by fafaforza · · Score: 1

      I came across it when D O Double G was talking to a video game version of himself. What a borefest.

    3. Re:results? by McKinney83 · · Score: 1

      Head over Here

      then click on enter, and then results.

      It's all done in flash or I would have just cut and pasted.

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    4. Re:results? by Moby+Cock · · Score: 1

      I found the "Hot Chix Read Cheat Codes" segment funny, but here is why. I was flippin' channels during a commercial break and I stopped on Spike. That is when I saw the segment, entirely out of context (I didn't even know the awards were on TV) and it was funny. Only because, unto itself it was so preposterous that it made me laugh. I think if it had been bundled with an hour of faux hip-hop jive and aatitude (like it seems to have been) I would have hated it to. As I saw it, it was like an obscure Conan O'Brien bit.

  11. w0rd to your mother by Rinisari · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Okay, let's discuss.

    Where does rap/hip-hop have a place in video gaming? Where is that music heard? IN FOOTBALL GAMES. IN *some* DRIVING GAMES. Surprise, surprise, that's it.

    You don't see the Master Chief getting jiggy with it.
    You don't see the Price of Persia losin' his mind up in here.
    Lara Croft may take off all her clothes when it gets hot in here, but I guarantee you if Nelly tried to party it up in her, she'd embed an ounce of lead in the wall behind Nelly's formerly living body.

    Andrew WK was awesome last year. The man performed in a fucking wheelchair. That's just a part of what makes him so kickass.
    Don't give me this Snoop Dogg shit, keep him in movies and music where he belongs.

    1. Re:w0rd to your mother by pete-classic · · Score: 1

      Just for reference, .45 ACP bullets are typically in the neighborhood of half an ounce. (Half an ounce is 218.75 grains according to Google. Federal sells defense loads in 185 and 230 grain varieties.)

      Did you mean three shots, max?

      -Peter

    2. Re:w0rd to your mother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's too bad all the "real" music fans hate Slipknot. I tinkered with Unreal Tournament 2004 a little, so that in deathmatches it now plays a mix of Slipknot tracks, and it was quite possibly the most violent experience I've ever had. Then there was the round I played listening to Slayer, but I actually made myself sick playing so fast... Now that I think about it, I think I'll try some White Zombie next.

      Video games are diverse. Some genres of video games are better suited to certain genres of music than others. But in my experience, metal captures the essence of FPS deathmatches so perfectly that a deathmatch just isn't a deathmatch without a metal soundtrack. Digital violence meeting aural violence...

  12. Insulting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spike seems to think game players are all 14 year old gangsta wanna-be desperate virgins.

    How sad. How sad for the game industry. How sad for all the developers who work hard to create classy sophisticated entertainment products, only to have shit like this taint their image.

    I've got news for you Spike! The average gamer is is 26-28. A good portion are married and have families. And guess what? Females play games too. Why must you cater to the minority??

  13. I could only watch the first 15 minutes, by Other+Than+That... · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...and I was in the kitchen for most of it.

    I realized that Spike TV didn't really care what they were talking about when they announced the best "human female" category, and Brooke Burke won. Now, the clips they showed of every other nominee had gameplay and voiceovers, while Brook was only shown as a sylized photograph on an menu screen - did she actually do anything but pose for the game? They had been hyping her as a guest for about a week though, which is why I'm guessing she won.

    Yeah, that and all the rappers. Everyone is trying so hard to nail down the gaming demographic, but I still don't feel included. My guess is that they've decided that since the group of people that play games is so diverse, they'll just stick to the people they've been able to so successfully trick into buying crap in the past: MTV mooks and midrifs.

    The Grimwell Online article is the best of the three by the way.

  14. Actually the results werent that bad. by AzraelKans · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Contrary to last years (madden game of the year, matrix goty, yuck!), the results were almost spot on. HL2 as best pc game, and GTA:SA as GOTY (instead of madden or def jaf vendetta) makes sense from a players perspective. It was a good idea to let actual viewers vote.

    A couple of surprises though, is curious and sad that Doom 3 and MGS3 didnt won a single award and is kind of cool to know that MK:deception was voted as best fighting game, halo 2 as best fps over doom 3 and hl2 (Well... if you mean by the multiplayer game I think I can agree on that) although hl2 won best pc game and best graphics (to keep balance), burnout 3 beat everyone else as a racing game (is a game about spectacular crashing cars at 200mph you have to admit is tempting). Im kind of unsure about fable but considering it wasnt competing against kotor 2 (which was delivered later in the year) its a lot better than the other nominees.

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    1. Re:Actually the results werent that bad. by UranusReallyHertz · · Score: 1

      Half-Life 2 should NOT have won best graphics. It does have pretty people but it's environments are prettly lackluster. DOOM 3 or Farcry should have won best graphics, with Farcry getting my vote. Seeing the water and beaches at 1600*1200 you just want to lick the screen.

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    2. Re:Actually the results werent that bad. by AuMatar · · Score: 1

      BAsicly, anyone who advertised on Spike won an award. All of these games have been blowing millions on Spike airtime.

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  15. A few seconds of torture... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I tuned in for a few seconds, when they were giving the award for best racing game. Only it was something more like: "Now for the Pontiac GTO Best Game with Vehicles award, brought to you by the fun to drive Pontiac GTO, best vehicle game Pontiac GTO award goes to... / ...Thanks to Pontiac... ...GTO." Blah, Pontiac GTO, Blah!

    That wasn't an exact quote, but i'm sure you get the picture. The entire show(the few seconds I watched, anyway) was nothing but advertising, and name-dropping of people that have nothing to fuckin' do with making videogames. Even the name-dropping was just advertising for upcoming crap, like Tara Reid(sp?) and the Alone in the Dark movie(IIRC).

    Funkmaster Flex seemed to be ashamed of being there, and Snoop is nothing but a "Corporate-ChumpA$$-Bitch"(TM).

  16. Not suprising... by Grayskies · · Score: 1

    I whole heartedly expected GTA: SA and Halo 2 to sweep the categories. Best shooter: Halo 2? Wow, I'm glad it wasn't in the same category as HL2 or Doom 3 or Far Cry... It was simply commercialized hype for the well funded console games.

  17. Penny Arcade were also there by drxray · · Score: 1

    You can check out Tycho's version of events at Penny Arcade, though it's an usually weak cartoon today so maybe you shouldn't bother...

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  18. Big EA Ad by Blackwulf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It looked to me like it was an ad for a company that creates games out of 100% Human Misery. Just about all of the "segments" had to deal with EA games or people who perform on EA Trax, and even the categories were dominated by EA. (The ones that weren't were thrown into 60 second "and other games receiving awards..." commercial bumpers.) Hell, the Best Racing Game category were three EA games, and that's it.

    Sure, other games won some of the categories, but just about all of the "segments" used EA properties or talent that appears in EA games.

    Katamari Damacy was way more addictive than the other games in that category, but since it wasn't by EA and didn't have any rap music in it, it didn't stand a chance. (Also, the "Best Soundtrack" category was won by a game that used all licensed tracks from the early 90's...It beat out games that had original soundtracks that were amazing...Great message to send to publishers!)

    1. Re:Big EA Ad by realityfighter · · Score: 1

      Well, that might also have to do with the fact that only 3 genres were mentioned: racing games, FPSs and RPGs. What about puzzle, strategy, sim, platformer, shooter? Heck, we should add card-based games in there too, since they're becoming so popular now.

      Even if you covered all the genres, where would Katamari Damacy fit in? I don't think there's really a place for it (except for best soundtrack). If you wanted to honor it, you'd have to give it game of the year. And it has a rainbow on the cover.

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  19. GOTY: Grand Theft Auto 2 by andman42 · · Score: 1

    I only caught a few minutes, but the highlight for me was when Samuel L. Jackson accepted the Game of the Year award for Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, but kept referring to it as "Grand Theft Auto 2." He accepted an award for a game whose title he didn't even know. It was a joke.

  20. lack of japanese made games by chronos2266 · · Score: 1

    I think an interesting trend is the lack of games that were made in japan winning awards. Looking through the list the only one I see is metroid: zero mission.

    This really is the epitome of 'mainstream' gaming in America. I guess I finally know what it feels like to be in on something before it 'sold out'. Expect more of this.

    1. Re:lack of japanese made games by DigitalDemon617 · · Score: 1

      It seems to me that they all wanted nothing to do with these awards. Good choice in my opinion. This awards show is a travesty to the industry, and "gamers" in general. Just look at some of the winners. The RPG winner isn't even an RPG. Mortal Kombat won for best fighting game! The whole show was product placement for whatever game a publisher paid for. Gamers everywhere died a little inside.

  21. Shocked, shocked I tell you! by Pluvius · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't believe that this year's Spike TV Video Game Awards show was so bad; it came as a complete surprise to me. That's all I have time to say since I'm cooking something; I have to go into the kitchen and touch my stove to make sure it's still hot.

    Rob

  22. It's still young by dmachine · · Score: 1

    I didn't actually watch it, but I like the idea of having a video game award show. Even if it's MTV in style, I think an opportunity to recognize people making games that normally wouldn't get recognized (I suppose like the technical awards in the oscars) can be a good thing. I also think it's still too "young" an awards show to take it seriously yet. But give it a few years, and it might become a "real" awards show. I remember the first MTV movie awards show, I don't think they had any celebrities even there. But the MTV movie awards are genuinely entertaining now, and while still not "real" as in oscars caliber, the celebs show their faces, and it's a fun awards show. I'm hoping someday, maybe this video games award show can be sorta like that. Although, once again, I didn't see the show (nor RTFA since I don't install flash player).

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  23. Maybe I don't get out much but... by laard · · Score: 1

    ...after reading a lot of the above comments am I the only one who had to google to find out who Brooke Burke was?

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  24. I guess I am glad I missed it by djeddiej · · Score: 1

    Judging from all the comments, I guess I am glad I missed the show. However I was instead abused by involuntarily/accidentally attending what turned out to be an "Interbiz/Amway" type meeting. God help me. I grew up in the age of the Atari 2600, Intellivision and even Odyssey 2...(yikes). They should have a legacy award to honour the forebearers of today's games. Ever see the developers of Activision's "River Raid" being awarded? or how about "M.U.L.E" for the Commodore 64? Now there was an intensive game. On the other front, I am currently playing Halo 2. Good game. I think better than GTA.

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  25. whazza? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How did Fable did best RPG??

  26. A question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Was Shadow Hearts: Covenant on the list of RPG nominees? I haven't played it, but from what I hear it would beat Fable by a long shot.

  27. What is not understood... by vegasbright · · Score: 0

    is that like the movie industry everything you saw at the video game awards was an act! Thinking that they were actual awards is like saying that the pepsi challenge was going to show coke as the overall winner. Like any indstry that is vying for YOUR HARD EARNED CASH the control over the information in the industry is severely limited. Until we see a larger market for indie games, like indie films, this will not be a respected industry. To think differently is ludicrous.

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  28. Just as I predicted by Omniscientist · · Score: 1
    I knew that Halo 2 was going to grab first place in best FPS, beating Half-Life 2.

    For anyone who has played both games, it shouldn't have been to hard to tell which one was better. Even if you didn't think HL2 lived up to the hype, the havok physics engine had alot more uses and was much better put to use in HL2 than in Halo 2. The gameplay and AI was much better, the design was much better. And and top of that it was alot more fun. Even all the Halo 2 fans over here dropped their jaw and were quite content even in just watching me play Half-Life 2. The only thing Halo 2 has over HL2 is its multiplayer system.

    Not necesarrily complaining, of course Halo 2 was going to win because it was better known and more people were able to play it (and the whole $$$ factor), but its just another example of how this award show is like every other award show on TV.

  29. There's a great award show already by DaFlusha · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's the Game Developers Choice Awards. That's where you DO get to see the industry's best and brightest honor the games, and it's an awesome event. I've been to two; they're every year at the Game Developers Conference.

  30. In terms of gameplay... by MMaestro · · Score: 1

    HL2 simply hasn't delieved yet. Oh wow gravity gun and physics? Goodie, now how about something besides deathmatch on 2 maps that aren't designed for less than 8 players? Unless you played on a private server, messing around by stacking things to block doorways or to make towers was just a waste of time since people would just tear it down. Guns? Nothing new either. The AI in HL2 is awful, I don't know where you get the idea that the HL2 AI is better considering they don't even try to get out of the way when an airboat is speeding at them at 90 miles per hour. In comparison, Halo 2's AI will hijack your ride if you're careless (I've seen them do it on Normal so your not looking very hard if you don't see them do it on Heroic or Legendary.)

  31. I TRIED TO VOTE FOR HALF-LIFE 2 by Agret · · Score: 1

    I tried to vote for half-life 2 but I couldn't understand where the fuck I was supposed to go. That flash voting site is a mess and I don't even know where the links are. Terrible layout. 0/10 See: Neopets.com, google.com for examples of clean layouts.

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