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Apple Website Points to PowerBook G5
lewsmind writes "The Register has a scoop on the new PowerBook G5.
According to this article at the Apple website has hidden clues that suggest the coming of the PB G5 very soon.
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According to TFA, Apple replaced the 'g5' with 'g4' in these so-called clues/hints.
Apple has posted job ads in classifieds and on Monster Jobs for a "Senior Thermal Enginee r" and "Thermal Engineers". This is much more promising as far as the possibili ty of a PowerBook G5 than the article above. Oh, they've also posted ads on the ir own job site (jobs.apple.com) for a Senior Thermal Design/Engineer...
I won't believe it until Apple sues The Register ;)
"And yet they haven't posted an official statement to their website about the Mac Mini not voiding the warranty when you either A) break the clips holding the case together or B) open the case in the first place."
Maybe because they never said that it voids your warranty in the first place.
That was nothing but FUD that was been corrected by statements Apple has made to correct the misconceptions... statements which I know you've read yet you continue to repeat in an effort to spread FUD.
Update: Within an hour of posting the story, and the screenshot we took as evidence, Apple altered the HTML to replace g5 with g4. Don't hang around, do they?
Considering this has been on every tech and gadget site all morning, I think it's pretty conceited of them to think their story is what prompted Apple to make the "correction".
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I mean, c'mon! A web bug was found on a page at Apple that has PowerBookG5 in the filename? Please explain to me, using small words so I can understand, how this points to the PowerBook G5 being released "very soon."
So The Register gives Apple free advertising, and Slashdot gives The Register free advertising.
I'll be looking for the Slashdot links on Apple's website... you know, to complete the circle.
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Rumors have always been fodder for Slashdot. Linux, Microsoft, Sun, Transmeta, Intel, AMD, XM/Sirius, and today it's Apple.
There are a lot of articles that don't really interest me, but that doesn't mean that they don't matter to other readers.
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That was nothing but FUD that was been corrected by statements Apple has made to correct the misconceptions... statements which I know you've read yet you continue to repeat in an effort to spread FUD.
Where are the statements? I have asked for them multiple times and no one has shown me anything other than statements from third party sites that are quotes from supposed conversations with Apple representatives.
if you want to see what the PB g5 looks like now, go directly to the marketing site . I think the details should be self explanatory
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A 1x1 jpeg for the new iWarmer - a special USB powered heatsink for the G5 laptop that doubles as a drink warmer.
No, no, you've all got it wrong. They're definitely going to have Powerbooks out earlier than expected, probably as soon as next week! And the new versions will feature a magical box that turns dirt into pictures of Jennifer Love Hewitt's tits that print money -- STANDARD!!
How do I know? Well, I just bought a Powerbook.
This is the holy grail of computing
I think you mean "this is the flaming grail-shaped beacon of computing". And by "flaming" I mean "this will bake your lap from a foor away".
Apple would be nuts to go with a PB G5 before releasing one using the dual-core G4... which would be both cooler and clock-for-clock more powerful than a G5.
Shut your iHole...
It's on the server that hosts advertisements, it's a 1x1 invisible placeholder. Apple most likely did not name it that, the ad people (Avenue A, atdmt.com) did.
Once, about three years ago, I noticed one of these images on my ISP's web page with a file name something like XXXLESBIANPORNROMGAYWAREZMP3NAPSTERDOWNLOADZ.gif. I didn't assume that SBC was going to get into the internet porn or fileswapping business, I assumed that an ad agency used a few key words for one reason or another.
I am impressed by the amount of attention little ol' Apple can generate with mainstream and tech media alike. Perhaps we are at the dawn of a time when Apple begins to retake their market share, perhaps (gasp) getting back nto the double-digits in the next few years?
People are sick and tired of Windoze methinks.
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It's on a web page, so you know it's true.
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Quote from Mac World Article:
"contrary to rumors around the Internet, Apple has told Macworld that you can even do it yourself without voiding your warranty "unless you break something when you open it.")
A dual-core G4 would be cooler and clock-for-clock faster than the G5. Apple would be nuts to put a case-melting G5 in a PB before they take advantage of the new dual-core G4...
A G5 Mac Mini, or a Powerbook shuffle, now that would be news. Or a Newton OS Mac PDA phone iPod Airport Express thingy with no broadcast flag and dual processors. But aren't exactly banner headlines.
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RTFJ.
I want a dual POWER5 IBM OpenPower 710! Not as portable as a PowerBook, but damn is that one sweet box.
contrary to rumors around the Internet, Apple has told Macworld that you can even do it yourself without voiding your warranty "unless you break something when you open it.")
Looks like heresy to me just like every other statement out there. When I said that I want an official statement I mean OFFICIAL. From Apple on Apple.com.
at the same clock speed, what does the G5 offer over the G4? Unless Apple plans on going 100% 64bit OS in the next year (leaving all the current customers in the brink) I dont realy see the point.
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Sorry guys but I never saw the code however if you fool around with that link you can change it and get a 1x1 gif image no matter what.
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http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g4_powerbo
http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g5_powerb
http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_37337_po
All render a image.
I call shenigans
1). Putting in http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g7_powerbook also yields a 1x1 image. Thus, that it exists on atdmt's site means nothing.
, because it is currently on the g4 page (and there is no g4 tracking link, which means it was probably a typo).
2). The correct title for this should be http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g4_powerbook
3). It has been now changed to be g4, which is appropriate for the content of the page.
If apple had a g5 in the works, why would they put this link in a g4 page? It doesn't help them track anything about g5s. This register article is speculative and probably wrong.
-Dan
apple.slashdot.org has been active for quite awhile now.
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heresy?
did he speak out against god or something?
OOOOOOH, you meant HEARSAY
ok, now I got ya
think I'm just being annoying and difficult there? Guess what, you are too.
I'm not sure that word means what you think it means ;) Just to clarify, did you mean heresy, or hearsay?
Looks like heresy to me just like every other statement out there. When I said that I want an official statement I mean OFFICIAL. From Apple on Apple.com.
And people accuse mac fans of being the religiously fanatical ones.
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I still think they Powerbook G5 will be released along Tiger. It only makes sense to release your shiny new 64bit OS with a shiny new 64bit laptop. The big software introduction (which has been proceeding in public) deserves a big hardware introduction to complement it.
The PPC-970FX is a 46% power improvement on the original PPC-970 design and it still is a thermal nightmare for tight spaces. Not to mention still uses too much power for a laptop.
When IBM delivers a new PPC 970 version I'd start getting excited about a PowerBook G5.
"contrary to rumors around the Internet, Apple has told Macworld that you can even do it yourself without voiding your warranty "unless you break something when you open it.")
So contrary to rumors on the Internet, rumors on the Internet state that the rumors on the Internet are not true?
^^
Also when you open the mac mini you don't actually break the clips, it's just like in the ipods, the clips will make cracking noises but they don't actually break. (they do ware down a little if you repeat this too many times though)
Now considering the platform's target audience and apple being a business not a charity, there is nothing wrong with them asking consumers to not attempt to crack open their hardware and add ram etc. The reality is, if you can add it, then you can remove it should you need to give it to an authorised apple repair centre. The majority of hardware sold does not ever need to go to a repair centre anyway, so i don't see why this is such a huge issue.
As for the g4/g5 crisis that seems to exist in the press, I can assure you that not that many people actually care, people with any memory will remember that 'the g4 is too hot to be put in a powerbook' .. that was until it was put in an enclosure that was not only incredibly thin, but thinner than the g3 powerbooks.
Doing a little bit of research shows that the G5 doesn't have monster heat and power requirements when you run them below that 1.8ghz threshold, and that was before IBM did a transistor shrink on the architecture. The delay is really getting enough supply of g5 chips and enough of the models built so apple don't have a depressing wait time, like they manage to get for every new product they release, like with the g4 powerbook, they know this will be another monster release.
Because the possible mis-spelling was picked up by several major technology news-sites as an indication that the PowerBook G5 is just around the corner. Apple reiterated the statement that the PBG5 is still way off at MacWorld (the quarterly report). It is obviously not in their interest that the public is expecting a PBG5 any day now, since the PBG4 sales will suffer. With the damage already done, the best they could do was to remove the error/hint from their page.
Given The Register didn't ask anyone to break and NDA and the source of their information is rather clearly posted on the page, I don't think they have anything to worry about.
Remember, the Think Secret case is primarilly about compelling Think Secret to reveal the source of their information so that Apple can enforce their NDA with that person.
Others have mentioned it before, and I'm inclined to agree with them. Since you're already paying money for the LCD component of the iMac, investing that much plus $400 more into a 20" LCD that you cannot keep and use with another computer (easily -- Mac surgeons need not jump in) may not be wise.
Of course they are adorable, and I'd love to have one of either screen size.
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There's also a rumor that General Motors will be coming out with new models later this year.
http://www.apple.com/itpro/resources.html
Seems pretty clear to me. You're free to upgrade the memory, but you're doing so at your own risk.
"Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion." - Democritus
Some 1x1 gif inserted by an advertiser titled "powerbook_g5.gif" is quite a little thing to inspire such wild speculation.
Indeed, a transparent 1x1 GIF gives another shade to the meaning of the term "thin evidence".
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Once back in the office we have several dual 1.25 Ghz G4 towers and a couple dual 2Ghz powermac g5's for final rendering. These machines were each between 6k and 12k.
One the road, battery life means more than horsepower and the powerbook strikes a reasonable balance over the G3 iBooks that were available when we purchased the PB's. From what I've read, the G5 chip (unless apple will pull the classic: different chip, same name game) sucks down juice like mad.
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[why] LCD that you cannot keep and use with another computer
Excellent point!
I am troubled with this too, but I also find myself askinging, if this iMac G5 will be relevant and useful 5, 6, 8 years from now, would I really be happy investing in a monitor that will last me that long, plus the life span of another computer? In other words, if conservatively, a Mac is relevant for five years, and I want to get two lifespans out of a monitor, I will be selecting a monitor for the next ten years. And in that ten year lifetime, will the monitor not get damaged (scratched), have a hardware failure, or become so outdated as to be irrelevant before the 10 years is up?
Such a touch decision.
I think of the iMac sort of like a Laptop - buy it the way you want it to be because you won't be able to upgrade latter. Laptops run their useful life and then nothing can be harvested but the data they held.
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Written in mold on the inside of an english muffin.
Surely this is a sign.
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Actually I was curious about what reader reactions would be. I sometimes read stories in Slashdot primarily to read other people's opinions, rather than to absorb the information from the quoted story.
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I'm teaching probability this quarter, and am also in the market for a new PowerBook (my Wallstreet sucks at OSX, and I can no longer check my email with Eudora for OS9 - SSL in 6.1 not compatible with NWU's email server).
Please indulge me in my pompous professerism for a moment:
Conditional probability of two events is written as P(A|B).
This is spoke as "The probability of A given B." B is what you know, A is something you're interested in.
So define A as "a new powerbook introduced in the next 30 days".
In this case, B is what we know - if we define B as this web-bug gif, well, that that doesn't tell us much about P(A), though it might allow you to update your beliefs about the quality of journalism at the Register.
So what sort of B would tell us something about P(A)?
Look to past events that occured before previous Apple product introductions:
- scant supply of current models in the supply chain
- 'end of life' designation in retailers' stocking computers
- ThinkSecret or other site posting pics, or 'reliable' rumors
- Press conference scheduled
- I'm sure that there are many other pieces of relevant info, a web-bug not being very high on the ranking list.
So here I am - waiting for a dual core G4 PB. I will not buy one of the current models, as they are somewhat long in the tooth, getting only speed bumps for over a year.
I see no indication of scant supply.
I see no indication that current models are EOL'd on retailers' stocking systems.
I see no 'reliable' rumors, and I would expect some if there was a plant in Asia making new PB's to build up inventory before introduction.
Given the above evidence, I conclude that it is highly unlikely that a PB will be introduced during the next 30 days.
Dammit. I do hope my conclusion is wrong.
And I fear that P(A|B) = 1 if we define the event B: "I buy a current PowerBook".
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Could you buy a G5 powermac instead? I want to get my hands on a G6 next week.
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First, the parent to your complaint was incorrect, brewing coffee hotter doe snot let you get more coffee per pound of bean.
Second, its not an issue that somebody spilled their coffee, its that McDonalds sold a product that could not be consumed and was in fact dangerous in its sold form.
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ok, according to Apple's warranty (this is there basic 1 year warranty):
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(d) to damage caused by service (including upgrades and expansions) performed by anyone who is not a representative of Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider;
This is for ALL their products under the 1 year warranty as ahacop listed in his link above.
link spelled out is:
http://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/hardware
If you notice, it's not a special warranty for the Mac Mini...it's their normal 1 year warranty.
So why am I beating everyone over the head with this? Well, it's saying even their high-end, easy to open Dual G5 machines have to be upgraded at Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider! Yet no one seems to be harping about this...ever. So why is everyone pointing it out about the Mini? The original iMacs were hard to open also, yet opening them and upgrading the memory didn't void the warranty.
As long as you don't ruin something on the inside from being stupid, you don't void the warranty. But this is true for ANY of their computers.
Usually there is a big sticker on the outside of a case saying "no servicable parts inside, opening will void your warranty". Does the Mac Mini have some type of warning on it's case?
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"I'm not sure that word means what you think it means ;) Just to clarify, did you mean heresy, or hearsay?"
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I thought he said Hershey.
Now I really am hungry.
I have a friend who works for Avenue A and he informed me that it is simply a typo.
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I see no indication of scant supply.
I see no indication that current models are EOL'd on retailers' stocking systems.
Like this from mac rumors
PowerBook shortages are being reported by resellers worldwide, with Apple's own online store putting shipping dates now at 7 - 10 days out. Delays like these usually signify a product change is about to occur, and the G4 PowerBook is expected to have a minor speed bump revision according to Think Secret. G5 PowerBooks have been in the rumor news recently, but aren't expected to show for some time to come.
Or perhaps this
Macbidouille posts that FNAC (largest multimedia shop in France) has declared the Powerbooks "End of Life". FNAC is also present in other European countries such as Spain.
There will be no new shipments of the old revisions once the stock is sold.
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Search google using ---> site:www.apple.com "powerbook g5" --. You can see that there have been other powerbook G5 typos on their sites. Make sure you translate the pages. But either way, they are old pages and clearly someone accidently typed 5 instead of 4. Where were you on that one Register?
So if they're really cranking out the G5 PBs now, then there's gotta be a bunch of photographers and models running around offices and parks, probably in California, posing for those action shots.
In California kids learn how to say "NDA" before they learn how to say "momma". Seriously, when powerbook 12" and 17" were shown for the first time, Apple already has had prepared a TV ad starring two celebrities - Yao Ming of NBA fame and Verne Troyer, "Mini Me" from the Austin Powers series (that's how 12" got its nickname). Yet these powerbooks took everyone by surprise. Apple could right now be developing iBeam, portable teleportation device, with Paris Hilton starring in commercials being shot right now on Rodeo Drive, and everyone would keep mum, because their Non Disclosure Agreements would basically say that their balls will be teleported if a word comes out about it.
Fact" #2 is obviously false. (while immersing your skin in a large tank of 180 degree coffee might do it, merely spilling it on yourself would not)
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Well, two experts in thermodynamics - including one professor and McDonalds own expert - concluded at trial that 2 seconds of contact is more than sufficent to cause 3rd degree burns on the contacted skin. 180-190 degrees is clearly sufficent - as proven by the photos jurors were shown - to cause significant burning. 6% of the womans body was burned to 3rd degree level. Are you disputing that the harm was done to the woman by coffee?
Fact" #6 is misleading. They had 700 _complaints_ about burns.... in several billion cups of coffee sold.
No. They settled 700 cases regarding burns in the US, in 10 years. Those are actual people who filed suits and recieved settlements. The number of actual burns stands to be much, much higher.
The one link I provided was probably insufficent. There are many. McDonalds was clearly callous in its actions.
http://www.accidentline.com/McDonalds.htm http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:30657179&dq=
The bottom line is that (1) McDonalds was well aware that they served coffee to hot to consume - you can't drink coffee at that temperature. (2) McDonalds was well aware that people were being burned reguarly and severly by the coffee. (3) McDonalds considered dropping the temperature of the coffee, but decided that it would decrease yield from coffee beans and therefore declined to drop the temperature. (4) Decision in #3 was made at the highest levels of McDonalds management. (5) The woman in question asked only for McDonalds to cover medical expenses including skin grafting. McDonalds offered the cost of the ambulance ride and emergency room visit only, $800.
But when it comes down to it, people deal with similar amounts of even hotter impure water all the time, without routinely getting third degree burns from it.
The evidence seems to contradict your findings. If you could provide evidence of someone not being burned seriously by direct contact with 190 degree coffee or impure water for 2 seconds, then I'll happily retract.
As _xeno_ and others have said, the Avenue A site will take any query for the file name ("apple_g4_powerbook," "apple_g5_powerbook," "mango_juice" etc.) and dump a transparent GIF. So it's impossible to tell whether Avenue A had it configured specially for the apple_g5_powerbook keyword, or the other one, or it's just set up to track all queries it's asked for. According to ThinkSecret Apple is soon upgrading its Pbook G4 model, which would explain why they're adding stuff about it. Probably the Apple employee who added that code was lusting after the G5 and couldn't control his fingertips ;)
I think it will invalidate your warranty, I read the article you refer to, but check the small print on the Apple tech spec for the mini, it states:
5. Memory upgrade must be performed by an Apple Authorized Service provider.
Interestingly, on the US site it says even more:
5. Memory, AirPort Extreme and internal Bluetooth upgrades must be performed by an Apple Authorized Service provider; fees may apply.
Since you're already paying money for the LCD component of the iMac, investing that much plus $400 more into a 20" LCD that you cannot keep and use with another computer may not be wise.
That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If you don't like the idea of not being able to reuse the monitor then you shouldn't buy an iMac. Once you're on the path of buying an iMac, you should get the monitor that will make you happy. Why save $400 and put up with a dinky monitor for several years?
Well, I reason that way because IMHO the monitor difference is a luxury and not an essential component to at least my enjoyment of an iMac. A 17" screen is plenty big enough for me. Since it's certainly not "dinky" then I do not see how it is unreasonable not to regard a significant upgrade to it (both in size and price) as a luxury and thus something I might want to be able to keep, since it's not an integral part of the enjoyment I get from the base unit.
I do see your general point, as the original poster pointed out to me himself, that the iMac market is very similar to the laptop market where one simply has no expectation of taking components with them after the lifetime of the base unit expires. So, perhaps this limitation is something everyone can just expect and live with. However, I disagree with your implication near the end of your post that the upgrade is almost necessary. Rest assured that many folks out there can have that "dinky" 17" monitor (_especially_ those in the iMac market) and be perfectly happy.
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