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Apple Website Points to PowerBook G5
lewsmind writes "The Register has a scoop on the new PowerBook G5.
According to this article at the Apple website has hidden clues that suggest the coming of the PB G5 very soon.
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According to TFA, Apple replaced the 'g5' with 'g4' in these so-called clues/hints.
Apple has posted job ads in classifieds and on Monster Jobs for a "Senior Thermal Enginee r" and "Thermal Engineers". This is much more promising as far as the possibili ty of a PowerBook G5 than the article above. Oh, they've also posted ads on the ir own job site (jobs.apple.com) for a Senior Thermal Design/Engineer...
I won't believe it until Apple sues The Register ;)
"And yet they haven't posted an official statement to their website about the Mac Mini not voiding the warranty when you either A) break the clips holding the case together or B) open the case in the first place."
Maybe because they never said that it voids your warranty in the first place.
That was nothing but FUD that was been corrected by statements Apple has made to correct the misconceptions... statements which I know you've read yet you continue to repeat in an effort to spread FUD.
Update: Within an hour of posting the story, and the screenshot we took as evidence, Apple altered the HTML to replace g5 with g4. Don't hang around, do they?
Considering this has been on every tech and gadget site all morning, I think it's pretty conceited of them to think their story is what prompted Apple to make the "correction".
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I mean, c'mon! A web bug was found on a page at Apple that has PowerBookG5 in the filename? Please explain to me, using small words so I can understand, how this points to the PowerBook G5 being released "very soon."
I'd like to see how Apple is going sue The Register on this one.
So The Register gives Apple free advertising, and Slashdot gives The Register free advertising.
I'll be looking for the Slashdot links on Apple's website... you know, to complete the circle.
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What is the difference between the register stating a rumor of a product and some kid(Nick dePlume) stating a rumor for a product?0 52258&tid=123&tid=149&tid=3
see: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/12/2
Rumors have always been fodder for Slashdot. Linux, Microsoft, Sun, Transmeta, Intel, AMD, XM/Sirius, and today it's Apple.
There are a lot of articles that don't really interest me, but that doesn't mean that they don't matter to other readers.
Read the EFF's Fair Use FAQ
Look, right here:
<!-- start tracker -->
<img src="ms_office_200e.gif" width="1" height="1">
<!-- end tracker -->
We're sure this is really suggesting the release of Office 200e, and not just a typo for Office 2004! Whoops, typo, I mean Office 2003!
I mean, really. It can't possibly be a typo for "g4" and MUST forshadow the imminent release of a G5 PowerBook!
That was nothing but FUD that was been corrected by statements Apple has made to correct the misconceptions... statements which I know you've read yet you continue to repeat in an effort to spread FUD.
Where are the statements? I have asked for them multiple times and no one has shown me anything other than statements from third party sites that are quotes from supposed conversations with Apple representatives.
if you want to see what the PB g5 looks like now, go directly to the marketing site . I think the details should be self explanatory
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A 1x1 jpeg for the new iWarmer - a special USB powered heatsink for the G5 laptop that doubles as a drink warmer.
I think this probably DOES indicate something, because why change it so quickly if it's burried in the HTML and working just fine?
No, no, you've all got it wrong. They're definitely going to have Powerbooks out earlier than expected, probably as soon as next week! And the new versions will feature a magical box that turns dirt into pictures of Jennifer Love Hewitt's tits that print money -- STANDARD!!
How do I know? Well, I just bought a Powerbook.
This is the holy grail of computing
I think you mean "this is the flaming grail-shaped beacon of computing". And by "flaming" I mean "this will bake your lap from a foor away".
Apple would be nuts to go with a PB G5 before releasing one using the dual-core G4... which would be both cooler and clock-for-clock more powerful than a G5.
Shut your iHole...
It's on the server that hosts advertisements, it's a 1x1 invisible placeholder. Apple most likely did not name it that, the ad people (Avenue A, atdmt.com) did.
Once, about three years ago, I noticed one of these images on my ISP's web page with a file name something like XXXLESBIANPORNROMGAYWAREZMP3NAPSTERDOWNLOADZ.gif. I didn't assume that SBC was going to get into the internet porn or fileswapping business, I assumed that an ad agency used a few key words for one reason or another.
I am impressed by the amount of attention little ol' Apple can generate with mainstream and tech media alike. Perhaps we are at the dawn of a time when Apple begins to retake their market share, perhaps (gasp) getting back nto the double-digits in the next few years?
People are sick and tired of Windoze methinks.
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It's on a web page, so you know it's true.
taken! (by Davidleeroth) Thanks Bingo Foo!
... and Steve "forgot" to mention this at that show a couple of weeks back? C'mon, that little gif means dick.
I am bitter because 4 days ago I bought a nice new shiny Powerbook. G4. Gah.
Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules.
Quote from Mac World Article:
"contrary to rumors around the Internet, Apple has told Macworld that you can even do it yourself without voiding your warranty "unless you break something when you open it.")
Uh, maybe 'cause the sources for the rumors likely knowingly and deliberately broke their personally signed NDAs? Said kid may or may not have been involved in urging NDAs to be broken?
I don't think the Register was actively involved in nudging a web site designer to put this typo or slip-up on Apple's web site. In addition, if it's indeed a precursor to the product, someone did it through negligence, not through conscious choice. Kind of like if someone had accidentally mailed me a mini the week before the keynote. (Hey, I can dream, can't I?) Plus, the Register gives full credit to their source for the info, namely, Apple's own web site.
Then again, maybe it's an elaborate scheme to prime data for someone's dissertation in social engineering.
A dual-core G4 would be cooler and clock-for-clock faster than the G5. Apple would be nuts to put a case-melting G5 in a PB before they take advantage of the new dual-core G4...
A G5 Mac Mini, or a Powerbook shuffle, now that would be news. Or a Newton OS Mac PDA phone iPod Airport Express thingy with no broadcast flag and dual processors. But aren't exactly banner headlines.
sulli
RTFJ.
I want a dual POWER5 IBM OpenPower 710! Not as portable as a PowerBook, but damn is that one sweet box.
JEESH! This was HOURS ago. Engadget had it and with in minutes the link had been changed. The Engadget users theorized that this was a COPY/PASTE error. Ie, when they were working on redesigning the pages, the copied the iMac_G5 link and edited it to say Powerbook_g5 and realized they messed up once someone looked at the referer logs to see where everyone was coming from and then read Engadget and whups! Let's Change it! :D Anyway, this is just a 1x1 Marketing tracker image and it does not mean the Powerbook G5 release is next Tuesday. Although I hope I am wrong and it IS out next Tuesday! :D
Gorkman
The advertisers site is setup, so that any request for a 1x1 image will return the same (regardless if its an incorrect request) - probably to stop important web pages screwing up if a web developer enters the url to the image incorrectly.
So guess what could have happened here...the apple web developer adds these little tracker images, most of them with the 'g5' word. He gets to the powerbook page and sticks 'g5' like the others (after all, its all fairly boring and easy to loose concentration). The developer wouldnt notice the mistake till the advertising stats came back or someone told him e.g. slashdot/theReg
Damn slashdot lameness-adding-filter.
sulli
RTFJ.
contrary to rumors around the Internet, Apple has told Macworld that you can even do it yourself without voiding your warranty "unless you break something when you open it.")
Looks like heresy to me just like every other statement out there. When I said that I want an official statement I mean OFFICIAL. From Apple on Apple.com.
at the same clock speed, what does the G5 offer over the G4? Unless Apple plans on going 100% 64bit OS in the next year (leaving all the current customers in the brink) I dont realy see the point.
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Sorry guys but I never saw the code however if you fool around with that link you can change it and get a 1x1 gif image no matter what.
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http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g4_powerbo
http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g5_powerb
http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_37337_po
All render a image.
I call shenigans
1). Putting in http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g7_powerbook also yields a 1x1 image. Thus, that it exists on atdmt's site means nothing.
, because it is currently on the g4 page (and there is no g4 tracking link, which means it was probably a typo).
2). The correct title for this should be http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g4_powerbook
3). It has been now changed to be g4, which is appropriate for the content of the page.
If apple had a g5 in the works, why would they put this link in a g4 page? It doesn't help them track anything about g5s. This register article is speculative and probably wrong.
-Dan
It would have been my fourth one! But I will wait until the G5. I'll also wait until after the bugs have been ironed out.
I have a 1st gen 17" and its a bit whiney.
apple.slashdot.org has been active for quite awhile now.
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heresy?
did he speak out against god or something?
OOOOOOH, you meant HEARSAY
ok, now I got ya
think I'm just being annoying and difficult there? Guess what, you are too.
I'm not sure that word means what you think it means ;) Just to clarify, did you mean heresy, or hearsay?
Looks like heresy to me just like every other statement out there. When I said that I want an official statement I mean OFFICIAL. From Apple on Apple.com.
And people accuse mac fans of being the religiously fanatical ones.
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I'd love it is /. were a decent Mac rumors site. But it's not. In this case, it's "News for Nerds. Typos that matter."
This is the lamest rumor I've ever seen on the web. And I used to read macosrumors.com daily. (I'm not hyperlinking them because their website isn't worth your ten second speed read. macrumors.com is a little better.)
There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
it's possibly a double typo, or an act of sillyness.... but who knows. it was written that way in two places. i don't think a G5 powerbook is coming anytime soon, and who knows if Avenue A would even have access to such information if it was. obviously somebody that does the Apple site saw it and let it go...
maybe it's just a funny prank so see if anyone is crazy enough to read the source code. the article has some speculation.
You could always simply READ the warranty.
But since you're not going to, I'll tell you that it says it doesn't cover damage that is CAUSED by faulty user installation or problems caused by non-Apple products. It has no provision that voids the warranty for a case removal.
Big deal... I mean, to paraphrase Dave Barry, did they convene a focus group to find out what number comes after 4?
What I want to know is, in these days when a CPU chip puts out more heat than a vacuum tube used to... how are they going to prevent it from toasting ones' manhood, in the case of male customers?
Is there a way to make an extremely thin, flat, rectangular Dewar flask?
Will the thing be packed full of chemical gel that is an insulator with a big latent heat of fusion, and you'll pop in in the freezer to chill the gel whenever the battery is charging?
Will there be a Peltier cooler on the bottom face, and a backpack for a big lead-acid cell to power it?
"How to Do Nothing," kids activities, back in print!
I am a Mac user, and I look around at Mac rumor sites sometimes, so what I'm about to say shouldn't be taken as holding anti-Mac sentiments.
I agree that I'm bothered by this degree of Mac-rumor-mongering on the /. front page. I don't mind that it's a Mac rumor, but that it's a silly and unsubstantiated Mac rumor. Every indication is that a G5 Powerbook is a ways off still. Some 1x1 gif inserted by an advertiser titled "powerbook_g5.gif" is quite a little thing to inspire such wild speculation.
The Mac rumor mill is known for it's wild speculation, and it's known be to wrong pretty much all the time. For the past year and a half, every 2 weeks someone else comes up with some sort of "conclusive evidence" that the Powerbook G5 release is imminent. And we're still waiting, and they still aren't coming anytime soon. Ok, I expect that from the Mac rumor mill, but I expect more Slashdot.
"which would be both cooler and clock-for-clock more powerful than a G5"
And more expensive. And would eat more precious space in the chassis.
On 105% of keyboards, the 4 is next to the 5, so I would imagine it was a typo. Why be monitoring Xserve traffic and PowerMac traffic, then have a completely unrelated product name on the PowerBook G4's site? Logically, since the other GIFs were named properly, shouldnt this one be too?
Also at the Register this week.. "Is Microsoft preparing a flying car?
"and clock-for-clock more powerful than a G5."
No. The G4's limited FSB limits its power significantly.
Why do you think the current PB's are so slow? They would raise the clock to 10mega-bejebers, and it wouldn't help the G4 significantly. The G4 Apple uses in the powerbooks is a very limited chip.
[and to the idiots who say "I use one, and its fast enough for me, so therefore that's good enough for you", I said to swallow a steak knife and shut up]
I still think they Powerbook G5 will be released along Tiger. It only makes sense to release your shiny new 64bit OS with a shiny new 64bit laptop. The big software introduction (which has been proceeding in public) deserves a big hardware introduction to complement it.
[Let me first say I cannot believe this 1x1px Gif is getting the press it has all over the Internet]
WIth talk of Mac mini's, iPod Shuffles, and G5 PowerBooks, I cannot get any pulse on Imac G5 upgrades.
My laptop went out on me last week and I want to replace it with an iMac G5 (yeah, I know it isn't a laptop) but don't want to be one of those people who buys the computer and then two weeks later news of significant improvements emerge.
Any buying advice on iMac G5 timing? While you're at it, thoughts on the $400 permium for the 20" over the 17"? (also doubles the HD to 160 GB I believe).
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
The PPC-970FX is a 46% power improvement on the original PPC-970 design and it still is a thermal nightmare for tight spaces. Not to mention still uses too much power for a laptop.
When IBM delivers a new PPC 970 version I'd start getting excited about a PowerBook G5.
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http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g6_powerbook
http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g7_powerbook
http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_hotsex_power
http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g5_newton
http://switch.atdmt.com/action/microsoft_windows_
http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_cheesegrater
Nothing to see here.
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Rack mounted equipment, such as servers and storage, can also be troublesome to keep within temperature spec.
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"contrary to rumors around the Internet, Apple has told Macworld that you can even do it yourself without voiding your warranty "unless you break something when you open it.")
So contrary to rumors on the Internet, rumors on the Internet state that the rumors on the Internet are not true?
^^
You can set your preferences if you don't want to see certain articles. This falls under the realm of acceptable Slashdot articles -- if it's not something you're interested in, don't look at it.
I mod down pyramid schemes in sigs.
Also when you open the mac mini you don't actually break the clips, it's just like in the ipods, the clips will make cracking noises but they don't actually break. (they do ware down a little if you repeat this too many times though)
Now considering the platform's target audience and apple being a business not a charity, there is nothing wrong with them asking consumers to not attempt to crack open their hardware and add ram etc. The reality is, if you can add it, then you can remove it should you need to give it to an authorised apple repair centre. The majority of hardware sold does not ever need to go to a repair centre anyway, so i don't see why this is such a huge issue.
As for the g4/g5 crisis that seems to exist in the press, I can assure you that not that many people actually care, people with any memory will remember that 'the g4 is too hot to be put in a powerbook' .. that was until it was put in an enclosure that was not only incredibly thin, but thinner than the g3 powerbooks.
Doing a little bit of research shows that the G5 doesn't have monster heat and power requirements when you run them below that 1.8ghz threshold, and that was before IBM did a transistor shrink on the architecture. The delay is really getting enough supply of g5 chips and enough of the models built so apple don't have a depressing wait time, like they manage to get for every new product they release, like with the g4 powerbook, they know this will be another monster release.
Look! There is even an image of the NEXT powerbook, the G6!!
WOW!
http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g6_powerbook
What make a statement on their web site to correct themselves for something they didn't say? No, a comment to several news sites including the one I supplied is plenty.
The G4 in the PB is a significantly limited chip because its FSB architecture is so archaic; it literally is a 5 year old design.
The clock speed, as you apple guys should know, is irrelevant. But memory access speed is very significant, and the G4 used by the PB is very very slow.
Lets face it; the PB hit the wall last year. It doesn't deserve the moniker "POWER" in Powerbook any more. Its about the slowest computer apple makes these days.
There's also a rumor that General Motors will be coming out with new models later this year.
And more expensive. And would eat more precious space in the chassis.
Are you sure we're both talking about the new dual-core G4 *chip* from Freescale? The MPC8641D is in the same package as the single-core MPC8641, and I doubt it's more expensive or larger than a G5 and the cooling system THAT bad boy would need to avoid melting the Powerbook's guts...
I can see it now, it would be the size of a pack of gum, but it would project it's screen into your retina and have visual sensors to provide a virtual keyboard. Also it would run 12 hours on a charge and cost under $200. Brilliant.
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(had to be done)
and sell the Extreme Express mini photo shuffle Special Edition. What would that be, I wonder?
sulli
RTFJ.
Hmmm, the 4 is next to the 5 on the keyboard. Could that have anything to do with it?
It's good to use your head, but not as a battering ram.
http://www.apple.com/itpro/resources.html
Whoa i never saw this coming, a g3, then a g4...i figured the next logical step would be Gtanium or geon. This is some top secret stuff you found.
Remember when TiBooks came out they've made all other notebooks look old and tired? Well all the other notebooks still look old and tired compared to TiBook, but Apple will have to release something that's better by leaps and bounds. Something that blows TiBook G4 out of the water completely. I'm curious as to what it will be. :0)
Wow! That's Great!
So that means that if I open it up, and three weeks later something goes wrong, it's my fault
...of Apple releasing a G5 PowerBook...
IMG HEIGHT="1" WIDTH="1" = Slim to None.
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OK...does Apple have an official statement on their website about any of their Macs not voiding the warranty when you open them up? Any official statement about putting in 3rd party RAM in their G5 machines? How about an offical statement stating that the warranty won't be voided if you put in a second HD on any of their machines?
I guess you can't. Everyone with a Mac that upgraded their RAM by themselves have been busted!
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You must be an Apple insider! http://switch.atdmt.com/action/Newton_OS_Mac_PDA_P hone_iPod_Airport_Express_Thingy
Obviously anything after "/action/" is being redirected to the same image, with the last part of the URL probably being used as a dynamic key for tracking hits.
Hmm. Okay. Opening the link... http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g5_powerbook. Okay. The link works. It must be true then. Wait... http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g6_powerbook works as well! That must mean that they're releasing the G6 at the same time as the G5! Yay! Let's go post an article on The Register about it!
My Systems
... bad, that it is only 1x1 pixel and kind of transparent.
I would guess the PowerBook G% should have shown up at MacWorld and the site was prepper for it, but they just couldn't get it done. We'll be lucky to see a PowerBook G5 in 2H of 2005.
I already have one of those.
Round down makes the G4 666.66666 tibook sound sooooooo much cooler.
Seems pretty clear to me. You're free to upgrade the memory, but you're doing so at your own risk.
"Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion." - Democritus
Some 1x1 gif inserted by an advertiser titled "powerbook_g5.gif" is quite a little thing to inspire such wild speculation.
Indeed, a transparent 1x1 GIF gives another shade to the meaning of the term "thin evidence".
Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
Once back in the office we have several dual 1.25 Ghz G4 towers and a couple dual 2Ghz powermac g5's for final rendering. These machines were each between 6k and 12k.
One the road, battery life means more than horsepower and the powerbook strikes a reasonable balance over the G3 iBooks that were available when we purchased the PB's. From what I've read, the G5 chip (unless apple will pull the classic: different chip, same name game) sucks down juice like mad.
"The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money" - Thatcher.
i'm getting all giddy like a virgin geek about to be deflowered by jenna jameson. w00t!
seriously, a G5 powerbook is inevitable. it'll be interesting to see how apple's marketing department spins it when it debuts.
I'm sitting here typing on my Powerbook G$, oopps G4... and I have to say that my genital region is quite hot as of right now. If there flopping a G5 in there, it WILL be catching fire without some new sort of cooling method. Maybe they would go the route of the huge PCs: Huge Noisy Fans?
Think about when the iPod Shuffle was announced...Apple had their website ready to go with quicktime vr movies, product shots, as well as "action" shots of real people with the device. Clearly, a *lot* of people knew about it by that time because it was a. already built so that b. it could be photographed (even if it were a non-working unit, they wouldn't take pictures of something that would change drastically before launch).
So if they're really cranking out the G5 PBs now, then there's gotta be a bunch of photographers and models running around offices and parks, probably in California, posing for those action shots.
Now the trick is to find them. I wonder when they're getting the people to pose, if they ask them if they're Mac users/fanatics, so that they don't get someone who, 5 seconds after wrapping up the shoot, goes online and says "OMG! You will *NOT* believe what I was just using an hour ago!!!!!!!"
For those who were apparently "paranoid" and followed those atdmt.com's links -- woopsie; because you should of known better
To combat this, Firefox has a handy setting under Web Features - [X] Load Images - [X] for the originating web site only -- otherwise use Lynx/Links.
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/. is good for you.
the warranty passage you quote explicitly qualifies the memory as "customer-installable" when the mac mini page clearly states that the memory is NOT "customer-installable".
MORTAR COMBAT!
Written in mold on the inside of an english muffin.
Surely this is a sign.
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Oh my God! Apple makes a cheesegrater now? When is it coming out? For the love of God, man, don't leave me hanging like this!
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Better be careful or Microsofts attorneys will come looking for you for spoiling the surprise. Did I say Microsoft? I meant Apple. Well they're interchangeable at this point, at least when it comes to the way they deal with their customers.
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Bring out the comfy chair!
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You know, their tracking system is probably now very, very confused with all these Slashdotters spamming it with random keywords. "Why are we getting all this traffic on our site for our cheese grater product? Since when does Microsoft sell Windows for Macintosh, and why would we advertise it on our site if they did?"
Actually I was curious about what reader reactions would be. I sometimes read stories in Slashdot primarily to read other people's opinions, rather than to absorb the information from the quoted story.
Read the EFF's Fair Use FAQ
You are accused of heresey on three counts: ....FOUR counts!
heresy by words!
heresy by deeds!
heresy by thought!
heresy by apple!
perl -e '$_="\007/4`\cp%2,".chr(127);s/./"\"\\c$&\""/gees
This definitely doesn't belong on Slashdot's front page. It barely belongs on Mac Rumors sites. Heck, this sort of typo doesn't even belong on low-level personal blogs like mine: Adam Piontek
Yeah, and we'll only get excited about the new models when the one we've got actually dies or when someone comes out with something as fundamentally pleasing and necessary as intermittent wipers or antilock brakes. Until then, I like what I'm driving.
Looks like the "commodity" thing is really coming true.
(Actually I would get excited about GM's 'skateboard' concept cars with the electronic controls. About as likely to erally come out in 2006 as the aforementioned Longhorn, though. And a new Msoft OS? Shrug...)
"Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
other customer-installable parts
The Mac Mini page states that on the Mini memory is not considered customer installable.
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Why would they? It would be a violation of US federal law (the Magnuson-Moss Act). You might as well demand that they conspicuously post notices that they don't sell illegal drugs or engage in racketeering; most businesses don't list on their web sites all the illegal things they don't do.
So the gif got named "apple_g5_powerbook," despite the fact that the filename doesn't matter (as already pointed out ad naseum).
The fact that the other product pages use "apple_g5_powermac" and "apple_g5_xserve" don't reinforce the idea these are "real products," they make it more obvious that the powerbook was a typo. And this isn't even Apple's work, but a outside design company.
Even more puzzling is the logical leap The Register takes to suggest that this is some kind of before and after study. WTF? IT'S BEFORE RIGHT NOW! So they are measuring interest in a G5 Powerbook, pre announcement, by placing it invisibly in a page pertaining to currently available non-G5 Powerbooks, and measuring interest? In G4s or G5s? Please enlighten!
Or is it they are simply counting clicks before and after the product is announced, but it is somehow important that the link refer to the processor installed in the next product to non-differentiate the before and after clicks?
I used to like reading theReg a lot, but I've lost a tremendous amount of respect for The Register lately. Between this and the iTunes DRM pipe rattling and the boo-hoo-hooing over some Harvard kid getting sued for soliciting trade secrets to display next to his ads, those brits over there are becoming just another "sensationalist crap with ads" site.
Otherwise knows as "Interactive Fiction".
Cause when you hunt through a website hoping to find a clue to the hidden agenda in an ALT tag, thats what you have.
http://www.argn.com/
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I'm teaching probability this quarter, and am also in the market for a new PowerBook (my Wallstreet sucks at OSX, and I can no longer check my email with Eudora for OS9 - SSL in 6.1 not compatible with NWU's email server).
Please indulge me in my pompous professerism for a moment:
Conditional probability of two events is written as P(A|B).
This is spoke as "The probability of A given B." B is what you know, A is something you're interested in.
So define A as "a new powerbook introduced in the next 30 days".
In this case, B is what we know - if we define B as this web-bug gif, well, that that doesn't tell us much about P(A), though it might allow you to update your beliefs about the quality of journalism at the Register.
So what sort of B would tell us something about P(A)?
Look to past events that occured before previous Apple product introductions:
- scant supply of current models in the supply chain
- 'end of life' designation in retailers' stocking computers
- ThinkSecret or other site posting pics, or 'reliable' rumors
- Press conference scheduled
- I'm sure that there are many other pieces of relevant info, a web-bug not being very high on the ranking list.
So here I am - waiting for a dual core G4 PB. I will not buy one of the current models, as they are somewhat long in the tooth, getting only speed bumps for over a year.
I see no indication of scant supply.
I see no indication that current models are EOL'd on retailers' stocking systems.
I see no 'reliable' rumors, and I would expect some if there was a plant in Asia making new PB's to build up inventory before introduction.
Given the above evidence, I conclude that it is highly unlikely that a PB will be introduced during the next 30 days.
Dammit. I do hope my conclusion is wrong.
And I fear that P(A|B) = 1 if we define the event B: "I buy a current PowerBook".
__ Someday, but not this morning, I'll finally learn to use the preview button.
OK...does Apple have an official statement on their website about any of their Macs not voiding the warranty when you open them up?
How about the warranty?
Sell it on eBay and your journey will be complete.
You know, it wasn't FUD for people to read "Memory upgrade must be performed by an Apple Authorized Service provider" at http://www.apple.com/macmini/specs.html and assume some things. A misunderstanding, perhaps, and props to Apple for pulling the text, and presumably updating their warranty policy. But why does every Mac user have this persecution complex? You know what the acronym "FUD" means, right? You realize that this misunderstanding was completely Apple's fault, right? Right?
Well, of course not. You're a Mac user.
Now before I get modded down, I be to remind whoever might read this that what I am saying is FACT. - bogaboga
Where Steve Jobs=God
Heresy=true
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After all the fuss over ThinkSecret it might be a smart strategy for Apple to deliberately seed untrue yet alluring readers to distract journalists and others.
Mind you hiding product names in HTML this was is more like something from The DaVinci Code that the Regis McKenna Playbook.
Who has the time to just go around browsing the apple site's HTML Code? Like, c'mon read a damn book.
That's it. I'm done with The Register.
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They can't tell a typo from an actual story.
http://switch.atdmt.com/action/anti_gravity_fusio
Look! Apple is going to come out with an Anti-Gravity Fusion device!
The URL doesn't give a 404, so it MUST be true!
"Live Free or Die." Don't like it? Then keep out of the USA
http://switch.atdmt.com/action/anti_gravity_fusion
Not only is it real, but Apple must be getting ready to market it.
They have a place holder graphic up now, so they must be getting ready to release it REAL SOON!
Sure the graphic is only a 1x1 pixel, but it's there!!!!
Wahoo!!!
"Live Free or Die." Don't like it? Then keep out of the USA
Are these journalists so desperate and bored they dig through source code in hopes of one day stating the inevitable?
Who gives a rats ass about such right now. Whatever gets released as a major change for the Powerbook will always be chastised as not enough.
Hell find something else to shoot your wad about already.
All things being equal, I agree.
However, in the land of FreeScale, all things are not equal.
You see, in the PowerPC 7455, they moved the memory controller on-die, and finally did away with the aged MaxBus controller that has kept the G4 strapped to a 167Mhz FSB.
That's right, champ; the G4 will actually scale as originally promised! You can thank AMD for that trick.
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
What if the guy adding that little bit of HTML to make the counters on each page work (presumably from the marketing company) dosent know squat about apple computers and simply put "_G5_ " on ALL the pages, not realizing (or caring) that the powerbook was a G4 and not a G5. Seems more likley than Apple playing spooky head games with people desperate enough to dig through the HTML for leads.
ok, according to Apple's warranty (this is there basic 1 year warranty):
. html
(d) to damage caused by service (including upgrades and expansions) performed by anyone who is not a representative of Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider;
This is for ALL their products under the 1 year warranty as ahacop listed in his link above.
link spelled out is:
http://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/hardware
If you notice, it's not a special warranty for the Mac Mini...it's their normal 1 year warranty.
So why am I beating everyone over the head with this? Well, it's saying even their high-end, easy to open Dual G5 machines have to be upgraded at Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider! Yet no one seems to be harping about this...ever. So why is everyone pointing it out about the Mini? The original iMacs were hard to open also, yet opening them and upgrading the memory didn't void the warranty.
As long as you don't ruin something on the inside from being stupid, you don't void the warranty. But this is true for ANY of their computers.
Usually there is a big sticker on the outside of a case saying "no servicable parts inside, opening will void your warranty". Does the Mac Mini have some type of warning on it's case?
"Leo Fender was in a 'state of grace' when he designed the Stratocaster." -- Paul Reed Smith
"I'm not sure that word means what you think it means ;) Just to clarify, did you mean heresy, or hearsay?"
:(
I thought he said Hershey.
Now I really am hungry.
Please, people. How dumb are you? How many times does this have to be pointed out?
Whoa, get over yourself!
This is a geek website for people who think k00! is a word. It isn't a submission for a writing exam.
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
I have a friend who works for Avenue A and he informed me that it is simply a typo.
Pooty tweet
I see no indication of scant supply.
I see no indication that current models are EOL'd on retailers' stocking systems.
Like this from mac rumors
PowerBook shortages are being reported by resellers worldwide, with Apple's own online store putting shipping dates now at 7 - 10 days out. Delays like these usually signify a product change is about to occur, and the G4 PowerBook is expected to have a minor speed bump revision according to Think Secret. G5 PowerBooks have been in the rumor news recently, but aren't expected to show for some time to come.
Or perhaps this
Macbidouille posts that FNAC (largest multimedia shop in France) has declared the Powerbooks "End of Life". FNAC is also present in other European countries such as Spain.
There will be no new shipments of the old revisions once the stock is sold.
-- john
No. The G4's limited FSB limits its power significantly.
Old news. According to this, the dual-core processors have moved the memory controller to the CPU, so there is no longer artificial restrictions on FSB speed. These things have a FSB speed of 667mhz.
They also use 15W of power, and have a clock speed of 1.5ghz. Not too shabby, no?
The old ones that are used, have a 200mhz memory bus, but both the new single-core and dual-core support 667mhz buses.
God save our Queen, and Heaven bless The Maple Leaf Forever!
Eeeeevil....
Introducing the new apple_g666_powerbook!
Buy it now, before time runs out... The end of the world is nigh!
So why am I beating everyone over the head with this? Well, it's saying even their high-end, easy to open Dual G5 machines have to be upgraded at Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider! Yet no one seems to be harping about this...ever. So why is everyone pointing it out about the Mini? The original iMacs were hard to open also, yet opening them and upgrading the memory didn't void the warranty.
cough, cough
Karma: Chevy Kavalierma.
Every time they resurrect that infamous "G5 PowerBooks next Tuesday" rumor hundreds of geeks start having wet dreams, just to get their hopes dashed when it never comes true.
The way I heard the rumor was "G5 PowerBooks on Tuesday", and when Tuesday came and went, my source of the rumor said, "I didn't say which Tuesday."
So, I'm convinced he's right.
It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
Search google using ---> site:www.apple.com "powerbook g5" --. You can see that there have been other powerbook G5 typos on their sites. Make sure you translate the pages. But either way, they are old pages and clearly someone accidently typed 5 instead of 4. Where were you on that one Register?
i wonder if you can get these iBook G5's unbadged.
or the Quanta Powerbook G5... hmm, apples or oranges.
Apple still hasn't removed the fifteen (!) references to G5 in the page. If you use the "binhex" decryption program on the HTML code, you will find many references to G5. Here are the most tantalizing ones:
3 L2M`K, 5d0$5mU)&P[G5"
" KFQ8X) (P[G5"MB@iJBQ8
j N)(P[G 5"SBACP)'&Z)'9
Line 124:
+BACK8f0bDA"d)L"dHA"P25*dCAKd,fTKGQ&cBh*TF(
Note the word "back" near the beginning.
Line 287:
b)(P[GA)JEQpdC@*[EfXJEQ9PC(-JEh)JC'9cDA*PFb
See how the same string 'P[G5"' occurs. Clearly an intentional consistency. There are over ten occurrences of this.
Line 400:
`CA*NFQPfC5jSG'eX)Mj6GA"PFN4bDACP2#pK2L`JB@
Could the "SBACP" be part of the model number???
I haven't yet found what the decryption protocol "base64" reveals when run on the HTML. I'll let someone else be the first to reveal what that finds.
As _xeno_ and others have said, the Avenue A site will take any query for the file name ("apple_g4_powerbook," "apple_g5_powerbook," "mango_juice" etc.) and dump a transparent GIF. So it's impossible to tell whether Avenue A had it configured specially for the apple_g5_powerbook keyword, or the other one, or it's just set up to track all queries it's asked for. According to ThinkSecret Apple is soon upgrading its Pbook G4 model, which would explain why they're adding stuff about it. Probably the Apple employee who added that code was lusting after the G5 and couldn't control his fingertips ;)
I wonder how many slashdot users it takes to take down a site by only download 1x1 blank space images... Nah, we can do it!
I think it will invalidate your warranty, I read the article you refer to, but check the small print on the Apple tech spec for the mini, it states:
5. Memory upgrade must be performed by an Apple Authorized Service provider.
Interestingly, on the US site it says even more:
5. Memory, AirPort Extreme and internal Bluetooth upgrades must be performed by an Apple Authorized Service provider; fees may apply.
Maybe you should sign up for one of those Chocolate Mac Minis.
It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
The Jonathon Ives designed liquid cooled iCheesgrater has been part of the Apple line up for quite some time now. It can even play MP3s.
It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
We can just count the number of posts to Usenet mentioning Steve Jobs.
If the powerbook g5 was just around the corner, the imac g5 would've been a *lot* thinner.
Unless, of course, it's going to be called the "PowerTome G5"
well, there you go...the "smoking gun" if you will. There is the official Apple stance on installing memory into your Mac Mini.
Thanks.
"Leo Fender was in a 'state of grace' when he designed the Stratocaster." -- Paul Reed Smith
A G5 laptop will:
... And I am still going to buy one the day it is released...
*Bake a mans little soldiers to the point that a male birth-control pill is no longer needed...
* Be able to increase a nerds Charisma by +20
* Act as a hot plate for food or drink
* And so much more...
3 degrees of separation from Vladimir Putin
Well if it's anything to go by, the Stanford Bookstore cut the pricing on the full Apple laptop range rediculously (we're talking $100+ under standard _Academic_ pricing). The sale's valid "until Apple updates their product range."
...
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So I'd say that we're seeing the start of the EOL cycle for the current lineup, which bodes well for a new release.
That said, I don't think we're going to see a G5 right away.
Read that as you want. One more speed bump perhaps before they EOL the Al-book design? Maybe the G5s are just ahead of most predictions
My guess: Look for a final revision of the G4 based AlBooks in early Feb. G5 released with Tiger later this year.
Just my $.02
-S
**AA: a bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes
The dual-core MPC8641D will apparently use 15 watts (probably for the slowest one). Assuming that number is running flat out (the information site is for the embedded version so I assume it is flat out), it's about as much fully loaded as the slowest G5 uses idle. More suitable for a laptop.
Even the single core one would be better, as the bus speed isn't quite so hilarious.
Also, I think the G5s are already cheaper for Apple to buy...
I rarely criticize things I don't care about.