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Nintendo DS Homebrew and Hacking
wraggster writes "Natrium 42 has updated his site with many more pictures of his Passthrough Device for the Nintendo DS, called the PassMe. In other DS News, Desktopman has updated His Tetris Game with a 2 player mode on one DS. Also for those interested in DS Hacking you have the DS Homebrew Reference Site and finally Darkfader the original DS Hacker."
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here are other sites with pictures of the device
http://www.dsgaming.co.uk/html/modules/news/art
http://www.darkain.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7
Interesting. No wait, the other thing - tedious.
DS + Computer + WiFi + Skills = Homebrew game - (funky hardware * distribution hurdles)
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At the moment I have no interest in buying a DS.
Though I do have an interest playing DS Rom on a PC if there is such a hack or emulator?
Watch out when trying to build a passme, I've tried to build one myself, and after I soldered it up it did not work no matter what I did. I think it might have been because I held the soldering iron on the pads too long. Just don't be too pissed off if you try to build it and it doesn't work, mine was a dud.
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The author forgot another great website http://www.darkain.com which has a lot of DS info involving WiFi hacking.
.. but can it run Linux?
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can someone put together a nice program to turn the DS into a high end universal remote? that way I can watch tv and play video games while I cry cause my girlfriend is the Princess from mario
I just want to know who did the work on 50 Cent's DS's custom skin/paint job. I'd leave the "G-Unit" script off, but the camo is sweet as hell.
What I always loved best about certain consoles, is that you could develop your own games for them. Made me feel like a real-life console developer.
That's why I loved the N64 and GBA.
Don't copy games illigally folks, etc.
There is more information online at www.maxconsole.com .
I love the DS, and I'd love to dev for it. But one thing that confuses me is Nintendo's vague stance about its future. Apparently, they plan a new Gameboy successor later this year and probably revealed at E3. However, most people don't consider the DS a "third-tier" and see it as the Gameboy successor. Not only will people get confused and upset after having already bought this system only to see new Gameboy come out, but developers will hold off on developing for the DS to wait and see what the new Gameboy will be like. Chance are they will program for the new Gameboy over the DS based on name recognition alone.
Does anyone have any info or links that better explain Nintendo's position on the future of the DS? Was it a one-shot deal? That's unfortunate if so, because it means there won't be a large library of games for this things. Already, it's pretty meager.
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Boycott http://nintendo-ds.dcemu.co.uk (the site in the newspost). It's run by an idiot (wraggster (if you're from the Dreamcast scene you'll know him)) who tries to be the whore of every scene there is. He throws up sites for every scene just to spam them all over and make money from the banner ads the sites are loaded with. Atleast if you're going to go there, block the ads.
Darn I was just getting ready to make my first homebrew GBA game...
Nice to see on the touchscreen. With the president being some sort of dan-player, I wonder if it will come out officially.
Transcend Humanity. Please.
Anyone heard what was going on with developing the Gameboy DS gateways? IE, the gateway would let you use the 802.11 interface to play someone other the internet.
You say things that offend me and I can deal with it. Can you?
If the copyright owner fails to make the works available in a desirable format, then they are failing their responsibilites under copyright. Consumers are then free to acquire copies in any way they see fit. This applies to SW for abandonded titles as well as music for MP3.
Can we get an executive summary about what PassMe is supposed to do, for those of us who have no idea what this is really all about?
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Now, the DS has been out for a little over 3 months. And this device basically allows anyone with a soldering iron, a somewhat steady hand and the right software to run DS code in DS mode from the GBA slot (at least as I understand it -- please correct me if I'm wrong).
And since both the DS and the PSP happen to be WiFi-capable, I'd assume that using proprietary media (cartriges and UMD discs, respectively) will only delay but not stop pirates in the long run. Looks like Nintendo has a problem.
On the other hand, I have to admit that I find this sort of exciting. Look at what happened with the XBox in just a little over a year: people are turning their $150 XBoxes into media players, thin clients, cluster nodes and full fledged Linux PCs. There's people out there who create homebrew XBox games from scratch. There's a whole community of people who actively develop for the XBox (my point being, there's cool stuff out there -- it goes way beyong being a software piracy thing). I'd love to see what the DS and the PSP can really do.
Bravo! Fantastique! We can run the DS code in DS mode from the GBA slot.
But we still have a problem, no?
How does one acquire the DS code?
I don't know the whole story but Darkfader went a all melodramatic a week or so ago. If you would have looked for his DS page then you wouldn't have found it at all. He took it down and directed everything towards a NDS emulator, stating that it played commercial games (probably only to have emu kids email the guy bugging him about it) but it was some pretty lame drama on both sides. The emu author claiming Darkfader released it to the public and wasn't supposed to, posting pictures of him, trash talk, etc. It might have something to do with the age group that is doing this type of stuff but I hope, for everyone, that this isn't the same way all homebrew development scenes work. I'm pretty sure Darkfader is a slashdot poster. Maybe he could clear up some of what happened. Probably off topic but I like reality TV so this seems interesting to me.
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It's cool that one of the linked sites (NDSWiki) is implemented as a Wiki. But at least one of the pages (here) requires a password, even though it seems to be a normal Wiki page. This is a fundamentally anti-wiki thing.
Yeah, I admit I'm being a bit curmudgeonly about this, but dammit, the Wiki philosophy means something! I'd like to at least know why they're doing this.
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What's a "passthrough device"?
What I very very much would like is some kind of DS flash cart that I can load Linux or ciLinux or whatever onto from my mac, and Linux once running would be able to just treat the flash cart like a hard drive, writing to it freely. I don't really care about homebrew games, I bought the thing because I wanted to play Nintendo's games. But I would very much love to be able to run Linux and a web browser of some sort, maybe a TI-89 emulator since my real TI-89 is a little too large for my pocket and I keep accidentally leaving it home. How far away is this, in whatever form, does anyone know?
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I've been batting this idea around some. What's the feasibility of porting the J2ME api to the Nintendo DS platform? I realize getting the wireless protocols will be a long shot at best, but it would be a real boon to homebrew developers if they could have a more forgiving environment than straight C.
Preliminarily, I know the DS uses an Arm9 microprocessor which J2ME does work with on several devices. Also, 4mb of ram is sufficient for J2ME development if it is a little low. I believe it is designed to run with as little as 512kb with a non-trivial program. And the J2ME source is available off Sun's website. Although redistribution of source is prohibited, binaries are allowed.
That's great, except opera sucks major ass.
It's like saying that you'd rather have 10 gallons of donkey piss instead of 20 ounces of fine imported German beer.
The maintainer of the wiki has passworded the ability to edit pages, as he says he wants the information put in to be accurate and verified; only after it's been checked against different batches of hardware should the info go in. And of course, since some of the pages don't exist yet, they'll come up as passworded.
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All this time trying to get the wifi (nifi?) to talk to a standard 802.11b AP still hasn't produced anything useful for the end user.
I don't know about the rest of you, but that's really what I want. Not a passthrough. It would probably make uploading software to the DS a whole lot easier too, considering you could use an existing interface instead of hacking a new one together.
BeauHD. Worst editor since kdawson.
DarkFader is hardly the original DS hacker. Please stop hanging onto him like this; his passthrough was the implementation of two other people's designs, and four people had an implementation up before he did. Darkfader leaks emulators against the emulator authors' wishes, gives passthrough code to game pirates and maintains a nasty efNet channel.
You would do well to look into Firefly, sgstair, darkain, or joat if you want to see real DS people. DarkFader has been an also-ran for some time now.
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