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Sources of Intelligent Audio for Commute?
confusus writes "Trapped in the daily routine of commuting for 1-2 hours every day, I started to ponder different ways of recycling commute-time waste. I tried listening to the radio, but 9.9/10, it ends up being just 'duh-whatever.' Then, I tried listening to audio books: it is really hard to find audio books that are tailored toward nerds. Thus I decided to find audio of interesting/geeky/nerdy/sciency interviews, talks, lectures. What would be the websites which provide such content?" I'd really like to find more informative downloadable audio content, too. Perhaps informed commentary and self-guided tours of historical and other sites, like national parks and significant buildings in the U.S. and elsewhere, basically self-guided audio walking (or driving) tours. Can anyone recommend a source?
Here's a good source of podcasts
If you look around, you'll find plenty of what interests you available as a podcast. Should you not find what you're looking for, with any luck we'll see YOUR podcast up there soon too.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm
Then relive the glory on your way to work
Do not try to read the dupe, thats impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth
What truth?
There is no dupe
There are lots of informative and geeky lectures available at:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/audio/audio.html
http://tf2.digitaljedi.com
Perhaps Web Talk Radio might be a good answer? I'm biased 'cause I did a segment with them, tho.
Zhrodague.net - I do projects and stuff too.
I found that getting the audio files of the Wall Street Journal and listening to them on the way to work was a very good way to keep abreast of the latest developments in the world. Sure it is dry and not nerdy, but if you work in corporate America it pays to be informed.
Check out the offerings distributed by Public Radio International. The archives of many of their shows are available to listen to for free. Specifically, check out This American Life , To the Best of Our Knowledge , and Sound & Spirit . If you're able to record these shows from the archives (using some sort of scheduled stream-ripper like iRecordMusic or WireTap Pro), or purchase them (through Audible or ITMS), they can make an hour-long commute feel like mere minutes.
And for your Monday morning commute, make sure you've got the latest installment of Wait Wait -- Don't Tell Me! , the NPR news quiz.
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http://www.itconversations.com/
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A couple Christmases ago, I gave my brother the audio version of A Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson. I think it's around six hours long. At the time, he had a four hour daily commute, so he breezed through it pretty quickly, but he seemed to enjoy it. Amazon has it for under twenty bucks. Might be worth a shot.
http://mobile.wsj.com/mp3/
Seriously... I see way too many people that are doing who-knows-what behind the wheel, with visible evidence of the impact it has on the amount of attention they're paying to traffic. Weaving all over a lane, tailgating, running traffic lights, etcetera.
I want my in-car entertainment to be duh-whatever. If it's something that makes you think, then it's reducing the bandwidth you have to be putting towards the road.
Less is more.
BBC Radio 4 is pretty much my staple diet of commute audio. Most days it's the Today Programme, intelligent, topical, and responsible for breaking a lot of big stories, such as the David Kelly Iraq WMD story.
The last edition is always posted online at the above address as a 'Listen Again' stream - worth checking out.
CBC has a number of interesting shows. I particularly like "Ideas", which you can get on cassette or just record live from the internet. http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/
CBC also has "Quirks and Quarks" which covers interesting topics and has interesting guests, but the commentary is a bit juvenile.
I really like "As it happens" but I'm not sure how good that would be recorded - they phone people who are in the day's news.
Check out the content available from IT Conversations. Lots of geeky stuff from lots of geeky people (People like Cory Doctorow, Steve Wozniak, Bruce Schneier, etc.).
You may also want to try listening to podcasts. Check out ipodder.org to see a directory of them. There is more than enough content there to keep you occupied on a daily basis. Oh, I guess I'm also assuming you can listen to MP3 in your car...
If you commute 2 hours per day, 5 days
a week, 50 weeks a year (for a total of
two weeks "time off" for good behavior
each year), you pull in 500 hours/year
in a metal cage. If you do a decade of
work like this, that's about 208 days
in a car. Or, about the length of time
for a first-time non-violent felony
prison sentence, like robbery without a
real gun, grand theft auto (the real
thing, not the game), embezzlement,
and similar crimes. The difference
is that if you committed a real crime,
you'd at least have a chance of getting
away with it. But since you took this
crappy job, you're being sentenced to
a metal cage, without the benefit of
having potentially profitted from a crime.
Pray tell, what crime did you commit to
be sentenced to this metal cage that you
call "your commute"? Or do you not value
your freedom enough to demand or expect
something better out of life? (Don't be
ashamed if this is what you want for
yourself; the world does need cogs after all.)
Put a laptop with wireless Internet access in your car, hook it to your stereo, and install some software that speaks the text of websites. Then point your browser to Slashdot commentary.
You'll be laughing so hard that you'll drive into a telephone pole, and you won't have to worry about commuting for a while.
The coolest voice ever.
I downloaded MIT's Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs (SICP) lectures from here, and converted the audio portion to MP3 so I could play it on my iPod. Outside of that suggestion, I have the same question as you. I recently cancelled an Audible subscription because I had run out of books I was interested in hearing. The local library seems to have mostly fiction in audiobook.
As a bonus, you can even get it in Ogg.
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http://radio.cbc.ca/programs/quirks/
This Canadian radio show has been running weekly since at least 1988, and covers a broad range of science news. I find they rarely dumb down their news, and often they will cover obscure and very interesting areas of research that you just won't hear about anywhere else in the news.
The website supports podcasting, realaudio, and you can download every weekly episode since 1988 right from their website. Pretty cool when you think about it.
This is definately superior news for the science nerd.
As probably the largest producer of English language spoken word material in the world, you could try looking at the BBC material.
:-)
On a factual note there is "This Sceptred Isle" series, a 2000 year history of the British Isles that is about 44 hours to start off with. They have plenty of other stuff as well.
On a SciFi note they have HitchHickers Guide to the Galaxy, Doctor Who, Earth Search and a whole pile more as radio plays. As Fantasy they have the excellant Lord of the Rings dramatization, and a complete canon of Sherlock Holmes among others.
They also do a good range of comedy, though much of this does have a U.K. slant.
Outside the BBC there is a whole series of lectures by Feynman if that takes your fancy, try Amazon. If you are into Terry Pratchett, then try ISIS audio books for unabridged audio books of his Discworld novels.
Fortunately for me I live in the U.K. and I get much of this stuff piped directly into my house via digital radio straight onto my hard disk in MP2 format via the wonders of BBC7
Democracy Now! makes its entire shows available in MP3 and OGG. It's about the most informative show out there. It's liberal-libertarian and is regrettably pro-choice, but mostly deals with issues about oppressed people from around the world. Domestic issues are generally limited to libertarian issues such as privacy, analysis of the mainstream media, etc., and to liberal issues such as race relations.
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You just got to have some priorities, know when it is time to stop paying attention and concentrate on the road ahead. There's usually plenty of dead time in the typical commute. (Unless you work odd hours).
Kjella
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
Then, I tried listening to audio books: it is really hard to find audio books that are tailored toward nerds
How hard did you look?
All of Tom Clancy, Tolkien, Douglas Adams are available on tape and CD, as well as more Star Trek and Star Wars shite that you'd ever want to know about in your life.
Maybe start with Spock vs. Q
I say check out the Feynman Lectures on cd. I only listened to the first couple, but they seemed to be worthwhile. Maybe someone who has a little better experience with them can give some more information. Defenitly high on the nerd factor though. The other thing I would recommend is language tapes. Pimsleur are the ones I have experience with and they are really good. Kind of expensive, but it's defenitly some good stuff to fill up the noodle with on your way to work.
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The Fifth HOPE conference had some great lectures. Here's a link.
IT Conversations ;)
Talking History
These two have kept my train ride going for a while
US Democracy:The best person for the job (among These pre-selected choices...)
NPR.org makes _tons_ of audio content available online.
From Grand Master Flash to Donald Knuth...
Why stick up for big business?
It is a perfect setting - lots of free time, a CD player, and nobody else around. (You feel pretty stupid repeating words over and over again in a foreign language if you are around other people). All of the Pimsleur lessons are 30 minutes each.
I've seen people read while they drive.
They scare me.
Also, Canadian Broadcasting is good if you can get it. You'll recognize a few programs as "oh, *that's* what PBS was ripping off when they did this program...".
Back when I was doing an occasional 1.5-hour-each-way commute from NJ to Long Island, I found it was just about right to listen to a bit of traffic radio plus tapes of the Grateful Dead Hour. These days I usually work from home, with an occasional 1-hour commute into San Francisco by train, but since I don't have to drive I can use my laptop.
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Podcasting is made up of two parts. Part one is the show itself. This show is recorded in MP3 format and then posted on a site. This site then has an RSS feed that points to the MP3 file and has details about the current show. The second part is the client app. Some of the current apps are ipodder, ipodderX, doppler, jpodder, etc.
The client users makes the app subscribe to the RSS feed. The client app then checks the subscribed feeds on a regular basis and then if the RSS changes it will automatically download the new show. The client user can then setup the app to create a playlist and then import it into iTunes or onto your iPod (or any MP3 player).
Because the show is just an MP3 you don't have to get the client, you can just download the MP3 from the podcast site and listen to it or burn it if you want to.
Since this post does seem like a opp to pimp podcasting, I have to pimp mine...
http://www.fakescience.com/labreport.htm
The Lab Report covers the new digital music industry and highlights new underground and unsigned music. This week we have Rick Carr, formely of NPR, and he is talking about his new show TechnoPop and also about Sandy Pearlman's $0.05 song economy. Check it out!
-halon-
If you are into space related science you may wish to listen to MP3s of the SETI Radio Network broadcasts. The topics are generally much broader than just SETI and the interviews with scientists and researchers are actually pretty good. They only produce an hour a week, but it will at least cover one of your commutes to work.
It's going to sound lame, but you can get some reasonably good audio from 2600.
2600
Or Sun has their Java evangelists create real audio lectures.
Also, I purchased Verbal Advantage
Verbal Advantage
When going through DC I listen to C-SPAN Radio, or whenever available.
C-SPAN Radio
When available, I listen to NPR.
NPR
If it's the wee hours, I listen to Coast to Coast AM
Coast to Coast AM
I also like Neil Boortz.
I also purchased "Word Smart" and "Grammar Smart" on Amazon.com, which are published by the Princeton Review.
The Pimsleur language tapes are great for commutes.. sure you get stared at for talking to yourself... but they are really awsome.
I always thought German was too much for me, but I did make it through 60 lessons before other things came into my life
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Listen to off the hook, they have archives and hourly long episodes of many years, should keep you entertained for awhile. http://www.2600.com/offthehook/archive_ra.html
- Lord of the Rings (the unabridged Rob Inglis reading, 49.5 hours)
- The Hobbit (unabridged Rob Inglis again, 11 hours)
- The Entire Harry Potter series (read by Jim Dale, works REALLY well in audio format, 8.5 hours up to 26.5 hours)
- Foundation (didn't realize how conversation oriented these books were until I heard them)
- Ender's Game (pretty clear that OSC is a playwright)
The following are worth listening to at least once:- Dumas (The Three Muskateers, Count of Monte Cristo)
- LeGuin (The Earth Sea Trilogy)
I got a one year membership at a "Books on Tape" rental store, currently I'm going through the classics. The old heroic novels (The Three Muskateers) are amazing on tape.One thing that's interesting -- I find books I've already read to be especially good; there's a whole different feel to the story when read by a good character actor.
Westerns, detective stories, science fiction, comedy, you-name-it. Back before TV existed, radio was it, and a huge amount of quality drama was made for radio broadcast.
There are many binary newsgroups where oldtime radio is posted and it won't take you many days to download enough material to keep you listening for several years.
A lot of old time radio is amazingly good.
If you're a zombie and you know it, bite your friend!
all are available on the web:
http://www.chomsky.info/audionvideo.htm
http://www.zmag.org/chomskyaudio.htm
zmag has further links to similiar audio files.
enjoy!
--- blackironprison, where ignorance is bliss....
Richard Feynman, prominent physicist, Nobel laureate, and general renaissance man, was also a prolific and entertaining author, and many of his books are available as unabridged audio books. I find it hard to imagine that any geek would not find these interesting, insightful, and humorous (+5 on all scales, of course!)
Audible.com has them.
"The Pleasure of Finding Things Out"
"Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!"
"What Do You Care What Other People Think?"
http://www.oyez.org/oyez/resource/nitf/273/
They provide a basis for our legal system, and reflect some pretty important times in our history. Plus, there are inevitably arguments for and against that I had never considered, (Can I mod justices +1 insightful?)
I already asked this sort of question, albeit I wanted something to listen to while i'm AT work.. Lots of good replies though, a lot of good conversations to get into and pass the time.
Slartibartfast:"Is that your robot?"
Marvin:"No, I'm mine."
Traffic stationary ahead... Big grin...
Filter
Filter
Filter
Filter
Careful, gap on the right
Filter
Filter
Oh. Indicators ahead.
Filter
Road on the right.
Filter
Traffic turbulence ahead, joining road on the left
Filter up to the lights beside front vehicles.
Lights green, empty road ahead, check for jumpers and give it some welly, front goes light. Blip to second.
Intersection on the left, car waiting to pull out, seen me? Aye, right... Go wide anyway.
Favourite bend coming up, nothing close, pull it over, peg scrapes, a bit more throttle to keep it steady, rear squirms. Mwhahahaha - Halleluyah Shellgrip!
There's *NO* dead time on my commute. The concentration required is actually quite tiring, as well as exhilarating. But then, I don't sit in a cage for several hours a day.
Government of the people, by corporate executives, for corporate profits.
It's interesting how it is with listening and driving. They seem to use totally separate and non-dependant "processing power" in the brain, or at least in my brain. I have noticed that attempting to communicate in any way (speaking to a passenger, a cell phone, whatever) is detrimental to my attention to traffic and the road, but having tunes or talk radio on does not.
I really do not see an issue with the poster's request. Having something to listen to does not, in my own experience, reduce the "bandwidth" that goes to the road.
In fact, I'll even go further: when fatigue starts to set in, having silence in the car is far worse than listening to anything that keeps your brain occupied. Nothing seems to induce sleep better than a quiet, monotonous drive.
Look at the tomato! Isn't it sad? He can't dance! Poor tomato!
Actually, your objection seems to stem from ignorance regarding that to which you object. Podcasting is more than just "downloading sound files." Podcasts are recorded audio content syndicated via the enclosure properties of RSS feeds. So, while it could be simplified to just downloading sound files, it's really much better than that. It's using RSS feeds to "broadcast" audio to Podcast clients who can subscribe and then schedule these downloads.
Put simply, it's waking up every morning to find that my Powerbook has loaded my iPod with new audio while I was sleeping. And what did I do? I just subscribed to the Podcast. It's highly-specialized content offered with the ease of TiVo, combined with the distribution capabilities of RSS feeds and the Internet, while sticking up a big middle finger to Clear Channel and the like.
A slashdot poster with any pride would play a reading of their own posts and congratulatory resonses. Each one twice.
What keeps me going is my inertia.
Harry Shearer, of Spinal Tap, Simpsons, and A Mighty Wind fame has a great a hour long radio show that is part sketch comedy, part social commentary, and part eclectic music. Harry does hilarious parodies of the usual suspects, O.J., political figures, journalists, etc. He has also introduced me to a lot of great music I wouldn't have heard otherwise. Some of the show can be an aquired taste, e.g, reading from trade magazines or the L.A. real estate transactions. Do your self a favor and go through the archives and lsiten to anything about O.J. Simpson phone calls. For more info check out;
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That's a no brainer. Download your topics of interest and record the dialup audio. Any real nerd knows that. Naturally, that requires learning binary -- at least the printable ascii characters. You shouldn't have any problem removing the parity bits, ACK/NAKs, and other overhead data from the audio stream by hand, or with a custom algorithm of your design. Since you're a beginner, you'll probably just want to start out at the oldschool 75bps. As you improve, you can step up to faster bitrates. Since modem speeds generally double, you might want to set the playback speed variably to give yourself more of a natural progression. Once you get up to 28.8kbps, you can listen to War and Peace in under 20 minutes. I would highly suggest you don't go beyond 33.3kbps though. One fellow tried to make it to 56k, and now he's locked away. Poor guy thinks he's a tangerine. Anytime someone opens their mouth to speak to him, he tries to flee in terror to avoid being eaten. It's even worse when he gets hungry himself. Naturally they have to keep him away from mirrors.
But I digress. Good listening to you!
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You could do all that manually, but I would recommend getting Sirius instead. You get NPR Talk, NPR Now, PRI, BBC, etc... etc... etc... Really great unbiased intelligent talk.
For all those just returning to the program, Howard Stern was proclaimed King of All Media.
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Then there are two excellent "audio lectures" companies that basically record college freshman-level lecture courses on CD. (One of them is called the Teaching Company, and the other, I forget.) Most of these are decent, and some are quite excellent. There are lots of titles available, and if you're like me and have an interest for almost everything academic, you won't run out of stuff.
Now, I hate to say this, but it has come to my attention that many of these recordings are available illegaly through newsgroups and some p2p sources like eMule. I leave it to your conscience what to do with this information (keeping in mind just how many immoral acts are legal and illegal acts moral). If you asked me whether I prefered motorists who enrich their minds with bootleg lectures about the Aneid, Roman history, or Feynman's excellent lectures on Relativity to motorists who adhere religiously to federal IP laws, I must say that I'd choose the former. But don't ask me. I teach ethics at a major university.
http://freeaudio.org/
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Don't piss off The Angry Economist
Are the original Hitch Hiker's Guide episodes available from bbc.co.uk? I haven't been able to find them there.
o n=Browse&dir=%2Fpub%2F.arch-download%2Fhhgttg&sort =type anyway, in case anyone wants them.
They're available from http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-browse?sh=1&butt
You know, Microsoft's street address also says a lot about their mentality.
I like to take project guttenburg books then feed them through festival. The voice is slow and awkward, but it is still very clear, and you can listen to just about anything for free.
When Argumentum ad Hominem falls short, try Argumentum ad Matrem
One expensive route is going to the local book store and just getting your items on tape. you've probably gone you yor local books store and have been frustrated by either the selection or price.
I've found that my local public library has a great selection of fiction, and it's virtually free. Recently I listened to a Clive Cussler book. It's just a little geeky with some action, adventure and women thrown in. Dune audio books will get you all the way across the country. I just enjoyed Dune House Atreides (which was 6 tapes)! I had much fun with the very large selection of Star Wars audio books (not the real episodes, but all of the in-between stories). If you ever fdo buy an audio book, don't let it sit in a box somewhere. Donate it to your local library so that others can enjoy it!
A good source for digital content may be Audible.com. For example, I just noticed they have all of the books from my favorite Ender Wiggins series by Orson Scott Card. If they have all of those books on MP3, I can imagine what else they'd have. For a tech geek, try a one-year subscription to "Technology Review"! You'd download them to your PC and then transfer them to your MP3 player or iPod or whatever and broadcast to your stereo as long as the batteries last (buy rechargable batteries!).
Some (like me) haven't made the bold leap into the 21st century and still have a stereo/tape player as their primary audio device in their car. I recently found a PC-to-tape device being advertised and reviewed. It looks great, but I don't have such a disposable income that'd warrant such luxury. I'll probably jury-rig some software to connect a cheap wireless Linux PC around my house to my stereo and record that way.
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I think it would be best, rather than look for ways to occupy your mind on your 1-2 hour commute, to get a job closer to home.
Long commutes are very irrational and do extreme amounts of damage to the enviroment at your own expense.
Wouldn't it be better to consider getting a job closer to home or moving to live closer to the place you visit (and currently waist 1-2 hours getting to) almost everyday of the year?
This and a number of other tips can be found on my blog.
Linux at home
I'm not sure why, but fundamentially I find it far less distracting to talk to someone physically present. I know that personally I am not as good a driver on the cellphone, and so I slow down accordingly when I have to use it on the move at all.
I think partly this is because other people in the car are, in part, also paying attanetion to things around you and so you react to subtle signals from them that something is going on you might not be aware of. Also, they will stop talking when something tricky is going on whereas a person on the other end of a cellphone might just keep going and you fell compelled to tell them they need to stop which takes time.
It is a tool but also a distraction, and though I am sure that people are are bad drivers on cellphones are also not that great normally as I said I know it impares me, and I am pretty sure it impares everyone to some extent - and I know that something like an audiobook simply has no effect on my driving at all that I can detect.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Did you think of going to http://coasttocoastam.com andbecoming a streamLink member. You could then download the latest program (mp3) anddump them on your iPod. I do as it is good for trips, or your daily commute. They have some excellent scientists. Including my favorite Michio Kaku. Worth a try....
or, say, jazz. just get some CDs and listen on your way. You can read about the composer/performer/particular piece beforehand. I've been doing it for quite a while. Even if you are familiar with either, there is always something new to learn. Like I've spent a couple of years listening (and learning) jazz of 60-70s, and now I'm focusing on pre-Bach time (early Baroque and Renaissance).
Note that if you get these audio books from audible.com, you will be lumbered with yet another pathetic DRM system. Derrick Story on O'Reilly already found out how restrictive it was
http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/wlg/2522
I've always hated every moment spent in the car - I see it as completely wasted time and energy. Recently I started listening to audio books and it completely changed my attitude. Now I actually look forward to getting into the car, much as I look forward to resuming reading whatever paper books I am reading.
There is plenty of great stuff on audio cd, but my two main sources have been Simply Audio Books (a sort of netflix for audio books) and Great Courses.
Simplyaudiobooks has a lot of fiction (including the first volume of Stephenson's Baroque Cycle, if you can believe that) as well as semi-pop science books like Hawking's the Universe in a Nutshell. You can also get this stuff on Amazon if you prefer to buy.
The Great Courses are basically a bunch of recorded colledge lectures, but (unlike my actual colledge experience) they are mostly pretty interesting. Topics include science, history, math, economics, biographies, and philosophy.
In Our Time is a show presented by Melvyn Bragg, who discusses a different subject each week, with expert guests. In general they apply a historical context to some scientific, technological, religious, philosophical or political movement.
Interesting recent subjects have been:
Quality of guests is high: for example, Simon Sing was on the crypto program, Roger Penrose and John Gribbin are regulars, etc.
As well as being broadcast on Radio 4 on old fashioned analogue radio, In Our Time has the honour of being chosen as the BBC's experiment in podcasting.
Faced with frequent flights down from Glasgow to London, I've been listening to BBC radio (In Our Time PodCast) and audio books (so far Dirk Gently). Certainly beats looking out the window and sternly avoiding making eye contact with my adjacent passengers.
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One podcast that I enjoy is Dr Karl on JJJ in Australia. It's a segment where people ring up and ask science questions and Dr Karl tries to answer them. He also takes answers from other listeners on the web. Normally quite interesting.
Find out how to listen at http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/stn/podcast.htm
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GREAT! Now I can listen to that debate between Stephen Hawking and a Speak'n'Spell! I've been wanted to sit through that one for YEARS.
The Teaching Company [http://www.teach12.com] offers a wide variety of college lectures on CD. They are expensive but worth every penny... I just got through listening to a 48 CD lecture and was left wanting more.
If I seem short sighted, it is because I stand on the shoulders of midgets
Just fresh out of the NASA news: NASA science podcasts: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/21mar_podc ast.htm?list68870
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