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Mozilla Firefox 1.02 Released

akadruid writes "Mozilla has begun rolling the Firefox 1.02 security update. It has appeared with the little fanfare and without the staggered rollout of 1.01 - have Mozilla sorted their distribution worries?"

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  1. How they solved distribution worries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's just say the bandwidth of vulnerable IE users is being put to good use.

    1. Re:How they solved distribution worries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      And it was fixed how soon exactly?

      MS bashers don't bash MS because they've got security problems, but more often because they know about an issue and sometimes wait months and months to roll a patch out.

    2. Re:How they solved distribution worries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't want to sound like a MS-hater or a OSS fanboy, but this flaw does not seem so low-impact.

  2. 0.04% Faster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Anyone else notice the speed increase?

  3. Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now if only they'd get going on Sunbird. I need a good calendar app.

    1. Re:Cool by Ki+Master+George · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm waiting for their long-awaited IM program to come out. It would be very nice to have a Mozilla-based IM program.

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    2. Re:Cool by darthpenguin · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm waiting for their long-awaited IM program to come out. It would be very nice to have a Mozilla-based IM program.

      IIRC, versions 6/7 of netscape included a built in AOL client (at least for the linux version). Of course, it was fairly unusable when compared to something such as gaim, but it was there. I'm unaware as to whether the new firefox-based version of netscape includes it, though.

    3. Re:Cool by PolyDwarf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I always have to wonder, when I see comments like this, why? I'm being serious for a minute, not sarcastic.

      Why would it be "very nice" to have a Mozilla-based IM client? What would a Mozilla-based IM client offer over any one of the other third-party IM clients (gaim, trillian, etc)?

      Last I looked, I use Mozilla for web browsing, not chatting with friends. I looked at their email client, but found myself saying "ho hum, another email client" and then going back to Outlook. Yes, sue me, I'm a windows user for my desktop.

      I take my car to the mechanic, but I sure as hell wouldn't take my heart attack to him. As old Rosie put it, a place for everything, and everything in its place. Maybe Mozilla should concentrate on finding and patching more holes... They obviously have a few.

      PS - Before I invoke the wrath of Slashdot, I do, in fact, use Firefox for web browsing, not IE.

    4. Re:Cool by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe I want one based on XUL, as part of a XUL-based desktop?

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    5. Re:Cool by xigxag · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What would a Mozilla-based IM client offer over any one of the other third-party IM clients (gaim, trillian, etc)?

      If you're trying to convince your organization to switch to open-source offerings, it's easier to bring up an integrated solution such as, "We can switch to the Mozilla Suite" than to have to sell three or four different projects like, "We can switch to K-Meleon for browsing, Trillian for IM, Thunderbird for email," etc.

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    6. Re:Cool by chrispyman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And this is exactly one of the big reasons many dislike the discontinuation of the Mozilla Suite. Until Firefox, Thunderbird, and the rest start integrating better (act more like a single app with optional components), there really isn't any other apps out there that make up a nice "Internet Suite."

    7. Re:Cool by tangent3 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Cross platform compatibility and consistency.

      Most of the 3rd party multi-protocol IM clients are cross-platform, the only exception I can think of is gaim. Gaim, however requires the use of gtk, and gtk doesn't work all that nicely with Windows, even with the gtk-wimp theme.

      A Mozilla-based IM client would solve the these problem, and I would really look forward to one.

    8. Re:Cool by starwed · · Score: 3, Informative

      For what it's worth, I managed to implement a very barebones jabber client as a 10k firefox extension... and I don't even really know what I'm doing. :) I wouldn't suggest anyone else use it, but by installing it onto portable firefox I could use AIM/MSN/Yahoo in any of the campus labs. I've found even this crappiest IM client is very nice in terms of convenience.

      And although my little extension isn't really useable by anyone else, there are people working on a jabber client in XUL called jabberzilla. It hasn't released any code that I could find. :( But regardless, a good, working jabber client will probably be released for Firefox at some point.

    9. Re:Cool by John_Booty · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Gaim, however requires the use of gtk, and gtk doesn't work all that nicely with Windows, even with the gtk-wimp theme.

      I disagree. GTK apps on Windows doen't quite feel like a native Windows application (non Windows-standard file dialogs, etc) I wouldn't say GTK "doesn't work all that nicely with Windows". It's still very nice and usable and I use GAIM all the time on WindowsXP. It's excellent.

      The only real GAIM/Windows gripe I have is a window positioning issue with my three-monitor setup. But this is a pretty nonstandard config so I'm not complaining. (I don't know if it's a GAIM or a GTK issue. I suspect GTK but I'm not sure)

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    10. Re:Cool by jp10558 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      IDK, I think Opera makes up a nice Internet Suite. Heck, that's reason #2 it get's bashed by most FF Fans.

      I recently tried Thunderbird when I was having an IMAP issue with Eudora 5.2, but I realised how much I liked having eudora keep everything in one window, kind of like tabbed browsing. Thunderbird, at least by default, started popping up new windows to compose mails. Then Eudora started working again for some reason, so there went thunderbird.

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    11. Re:Cool by Dolda2000 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      If you're trying to convince your organization to switch to open-source offerings, it's easier to bring up an integrated solution such as, "We can switch to the Mozilla Suite" than to have to sell three or four different projects like, "We can switch to K-Meleon for browsing, Trillian for IM, Thunderbird for email," etc.
      In the same way that Microsoft would (in a more ideal world ;-) ) try to convince Linux desktop users to "switch to Internet Explorer for browsing, Windows Messenger for IM, Outlook for email," etc.?

      I see nothing wrong in offering three or four different projects -- especially since that's how it all works anyway. A GNU/Linux system is composed of thousands of little projects. Windows, too, is based on lots of smaller programs. Normally, of course, these are all included simultaneously in the same O/S "package" (by that I mean the installation CD, not an individual RPM or whatever package), but if that's the problem, I'd suggest checking out the Open CD.

      For that matter, I would be more cautious about switching to one mega-program that replaces five or six of my current programs simultaneously, since that affects a larger part of my desktop in a shorter amount of time. Better to switch out one component at a time and get used to one at a time instead, if you ask me.

    12. Re:Cool by bunratty · · Score: 2, Informative
      And this is exactly one of the big reasons many dislike the discontinuation of the Mozilla Suite.
      It hasn't been discontinued. In the interview with Mitchell Baker she mentioned that the Mozilla Foundation will provide Mozilla 1.7.x maintenance and security releases for the next two years, and possibly longer depending on how many users it has then. The Mozilla Foundation handed off the task of testing and building releases beyond Mozilla 1.7.x to the Seamonkey group.
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    13. Re:Cool by JPelorat · · Score: 2, Informative

      Your organization doesn't have to know that unrelated programs X, Y, and Z aren't part of a unified package. Call it the Open Source Suite and set up a single-point installer for everything.

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    14. Re:Cool by aaronl · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I was thinking they should spend more time making the browser not crash all the time, take less than 10 seconds to start on a 2.6GHz machine w/ 512MB RAM, perhaps not screw up horribly and stay resident after exiting the GUI.

      After that, work can get done to fix the installer, and then make the installation customizable so that you can have corporate rollouts and silent installs. Maybe they can learn to use the standard installation formats that some OS' offer (like MSI on Windows).

      Then work can start on making the GUI not ass slow, and perhaps the occassional native UI element. After that they can look into how to stop independantly themeing the app, and use the OS built in theme functionality.

      And just in case anyone insists it's just me and this is the best piece of software ever: This is very common. Most people have this problem. Everyone I've met that uses Firefox has these problems.

    15. Re:Cool by Oopsz · · Score: 3, Funny

      There is no desktop-- only XUL!

  4. 1.2.. by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 4, Informative

    But does it stop the bloody pop ups I've had to turn off Javascript to cure?

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    1. Re:1.2.. by darthpenguin · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you want to block the javascript popups, just use the Adblock extension. Not only can it block images, but also scripts and flash and just about everything else. Combined with wildcards, you can block out everything from most major web advertising places, including most of those nasty js popup scripts.

    2. Re:1.2.. by Tarqwak · · Score: 4, Informative

      Perfect config for me, works on 1.8b suite at least:

      browser.link.open_external 3
      1: Open in current window (default)
      2: Open in new window
      3: Open in new tab

      browser.link.open_newwindow 1
      1: Open in current window
      2: Open in new window (default)
      3: Open in new tab

      browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction 2
      0: Divert everything (default)
      1: Divert target="_blank" etc. but not window.open
      2: Divert everything expect window.open with three parameters

      privacy.popups.disable_from_plugins 2
      0: open allowed (default)
      1: limits their number to dom.popup_maximum (even with popup blocker disabled)
      2: the window is a popup, block it
      3: blocks them even on whitelisted sites

      dom.disable_open_during_load true
      True (default): Block popup windows created while the page is loading
      False: Allow popup windows

    3. Re:1.2.. by jcupitt65 · · Score: 4, Informative

      bugzilla explains how to fix it ... see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17607 9

      - go to about:config
      - right-click and select New/Integer preference
      - make a pref called "privacy.popups.disable_from_plugins"
      - set the value 2

      now plugins are not allowed to make popups. This hasn't been made a public preference, since it is a bit crude and may break some sites. It does fix the flash-popups though.

    4. Re:1.2.. by Spoing · · Score: 2, Informative
      1. But does it stop the bloody pop ups I've had to turn off Javascript to cure?

      By default, popups aren't disabled for plugins (like Flash). Here's how to disable them for plugins;

      1. Open a new browser window.

      2. Type about:config for the URL and press enter.

      3. You should see a long list of settings. Ignore them.

      4. Right click on the background and select "New...integer".

      5. Enter in the following;

      privacy.popups.disable_from_plugins (press OK)

      2 (press OK)

      For reference, here's are the settings for the
      privacy.popups.disable_from_plugins option;

      * 0: open allowed
      * 1: the opened windows are treated as popups, but they're allowed to
      open (we limit the number of these types of popups)
      * 2: the window is a popup, block it
      * 3: block all, even the whitelisted ones.

      reference link

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  5. Best way to upgrade? by jfruhlinger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Can anyone explain to me the best way to upgrade Firefox? Updating from 1.0 to 1.0.1 seemed to leave two instances of Mozilla on my desktop. Should I uninstall the old before installing the new? I don't want to lose all my settings/bookmarks/etc.

    jf

    1. Re:Best way to upgrade? by Owndapan · · Score: 2, Informative
      In my experience I have been able to uninstall from Win2K and reinstall a new version without wiping the user profile (bookmarks, settings etc.) I don't know about nightly builds etc, but the major releases seem fine.

      DISCLAIMER: Use at your own risk. It is always best to backup the profile directory if you can not afford to lose it!

    2. Re:Best way to upgrade? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's easy! Uninstall Firefox 1.0. Restart your computer. Install 1.0.1. Restart your computer. Launch Firefox to find that all the extensions you've installed don't work anymore. Install the few that have been updated to work with the new Firefox one at a time restarting Firefox after each. Reimport your bookmarks--you did back them up didn't you?--and open up Options to reset everything manually. Don't forget to restart Firefox after each setting change! Quick and easy! Me personally, I've pencilled in upgrading next week when I've got the day off from work!

    3. Re:Best way to upgrade? by kinema · · Score: 2, Insightful
      apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
    4. Re:Best way to upgrade? by joeljkp · · Score: 4, Informative

      Uninstalling the old before you install the new won't get rid of your settings. Those are saved in your home dir (on Win2000/XP).

      You're asking for trouble if you update without installing. I ended up with both 1.0 and 1.0.1 in my Add/Remove Programs (win98), and removing the former broke the latter (and broke its uninstall function). The only way to get rid of 1.0.1 was to reinstall it to restore the uninstaller, then try again.

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    5. Re:Best way to upgrade? by The-Perl-CD-Bookshel · · Score: 4, Informative

      Click the Orange or Blue orb next to the flower in the top right part of your window. I just did it and it auto-updates Firefox to 1.02.

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    6. Re:Best way to upgrade? by CuratorTom · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Support Forum advises uninstalling earlier versions before installing 1.0.2. (Although I can't now find the post. It was there 10 minutes ago.)

      FWIW I had problems with the auto-update and did have to uninstall and reinstall and reconfigure my firewall.

    7. Re:Best way to upgrade? by phalanx · · Score: 2, Informative

      Or just use Myuninstaller http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/myuninst.html to delete items in from the Add/Remove Programs list in Windows without uninstalling the software.

    8. Re:Best way to upgrade? by carpe_noctem · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think the parent is looking to update to the CURRENT latest version, not last year's latest version...

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    9. Re:Best way to upgrade? by Dwonis · · Score: 2, Informative
      I think the parent is looking to update to the CURRENT latest version, not last year's latest version...

      Oh, quit trolling... I get this on my Debian box:

      $ apt-cache show mozilla-firefox | grep ^Version | sort | tail -1
      Version: 1.0.1-3

      Not to mention that apt hasn't been a Debian-only tool for quite a while...

    10. Re:Best way to upgrade? by Ben+Hutchings · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It would be preferable for Windows to have real package management, but given that it doesn't the Firefox installer should be able to deal with an in-place upgrade itself. The fact that it doesn't is a bug in the installer, not in Windows. It's not that difficult to get right.

  6. Auto-update success by Owndapan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I got my auto-update notification in FireFox, ran the "wizard" to update, and am now posting from 1.0.2. Update completed before the /. story was posted! (/. is my normal update notifier) Nice work Mozilla!

    1. Re:Auto-update success by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wah, wah, wha. They've said for a long time that 1.1 would be used to finish the Mac version, which include auto-update functionality. 1.0.1 and 1.0.2 are security releases, not functionality improvements.

    2. Re:Auto-update success by pHatidic · · Score: 2, Informative

      Auto-update doesn't work on Mac though unfortunately. I love firefox, but the bugs on firefox take some getting used to. It still pisses me off to no end that there is no scrollbar so you can't see what percentage of the page you are viewing.

    3. Re:Auto-update success by asa · · Score: 2, Informative

      That sounds like you got an extension update and not a Firefox update.

      - A

    4. Re:Auto-update success by PurpleBob · · Score: 4, Informative

      You lose the scrollbar if you've installed a funky theme that doesn't work with OS X. (It doesn't matter if you're using the theme, unfortunately, just that it's installed.) So try uninstalling your themes.

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    5. Re:Auto-update success by TopShelf · · Score: 2, Informative

      As Gilda Radner used to say on SNL... Never mind.

      Turned out my Zone Alarm was blocking the new version by default, but for some reason didn't pop up a message box saying so. Once I checked the program controls the new FireFox worked fine...

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  7. No need to panic... by mistersooreams · · Score: 5, Informative

    As the version number suggests, this is a pretty minor update. That's not to say that these security fixes aren't important; they are, and they proove once again that open source software can react far faster to new threats than any closed source development model. Nevertheless, it means that the Mozilla Foundation aren't expecting a major download rush. Of course, with Slashdot's intervention, maybe we can take them by surprise.

    Now, how long to the first "Firefox 1.02 ate my boot sector" post?

    1. Re:No need to panic... by Pyro226 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Firefox didn't eat my boot sector, but after upgrading from 1.0.1 to 1.0.2 firefox crashed with an error telling me to restart the computer every time I started it (it being firefox). I uninstalled and reinstalled and, and not only did it work fine, but I still had all of my extensions and bookmarks.

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    2. Re:No need to panic... by bogie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Considering how long it was till 1.01 came out and how long 1.0 was out there with plently of know security holes I wouldn't exactly point to Firefox as the pinnacle for OSS security response.

      And as much as a fanboy as I am for OSS I don't possibly see how you can say that OSS "can react faster to new threats than any closed source development model". OSS does indeed usually act faster than commercial software expecially when you bring something like IE into the picture. But whether something is open or closed has absolutely nothing to do with how fast the owner of the code responds to a security threat. That's on them and has zero to due with whether its open or closed. A commercial provider could have reacted just as quickly.

      Again I'm all for pro-OSS statements, but let's keep it to the facts.

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    3. Re:No need to panic... by Cl1mh4224rd · · Score: 2, Insightful
      ... they proove once again that open source software can react far faster to new threats than any closed source development model.
      I agree, but open source reaction vs. closed source reaction is really only half of the issue. The other other half is the end-user's reaction (how quickly they upgrade).
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    4. Re:No need to panic... by brogdon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "a definite majority of people never see the source to most programs they use."

      God knows I sure don't. But that isn't the point, is it? The issue is whether enough white-hat hackers see it that a critical mass of voices is reached when security issues are found. That chorus of community concern is what informs and motivates the developers of open source software to correct security inadequacies in a timely fashion. In a closed source environment, the amount of people who know the code well enough to comment on vulnerabilities is much, much smaller. There are the people who work for the company that made the software, a very few white hats, and a bunch of black hats. When a security issue comes up in a closed source program, there aren't enough positive voices speaking on behalf of the users to alert the authors and demand change.

      That is why the open source model is better for security. Not because the developers are necessarily better coders, but because they've chosen to allow their work to be reviewed by any consumer who chooses to do so.

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    5. Re:No need to panic... by Koiu+Lpoi · · Score: 2, Informative

      Now, this post it too late to get modded up or noticed.

      However!

      There is a bug that's very annoying to me in Mozilla Firefox. If I click the middle mouse button on a link to make a new tab, until it has actually loaded the page, the adress for the page will not show up in the adress bar. In fact, if the page doesn't load properly (this happens often due to my connection) I will get told the document contains no data, and the adress will never appear. If it did appear, I could just go and hit 'enter' to reload the page. But, because it's not there, I have to go back to the original page and find the link again - and the original tab is most likely closed already.

      So, has this been fixed yet, or is it a 'feature not a bug'. Perhaps they're waiting for version 1.1.

  8. Disappointed by gnarled · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was really hoping this patch fixed those pop-unders I started getting lately.

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    1. Re:Disappointed by momerath2003 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Use adblock, and block all of the admedia/adwhoever javascript includes; most pop-anythings will go away because the commands to activate them aren't there.

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    2. Re:Disappointed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Why do people expect feature changes from a security update? The point of these updates is that they ONLY fix the critical problems. They don't screw with anything else to minimize the chance of breaking something.

      If you're looking for new features or enhancements, you'll get that with 1.1. Or you can try the nightly builds. But don't expect any noticable changes in a security/stability update (unless you are suffering from stability problems).

      As for your pop-ups, the latest trend is supposedly to generate them from a Flash embed. You can either not install Flash, or use the Flashblock extension (recommended), or try adblock, or try the hidden preference that is supposed to prevent plugin-generated pop-ups. In the past, a major cause of failure for the pop-up blocker has been the Tabbrowser Extensions (TBE) extension. I don't know whether it still suffers from this problem.

  9. Mozilla 1.7.6 out, too by invisik · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't forget the suite is updated as well...

    -m

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  10. Update? by Transcendent · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How it is an update when it acts as a total re-install?

    I love how firefox/thunderbird keep filling up my Add/Remove Programs list in XP everytime there is an "update".

    Not trying to flame, but shouldn't there be a better way?

    1. Re:Update? by SeaFox · · Score: 2, Informative

      You should be uninstalling the old version before you install the new one.

      All you bookmarks and extensions will still be there after you install the new version. Those are saved in your profile directory, which is not deleted when you uninstall the old Firefox.

    2. Re:Update? by ip_vjl · · Score: 2, Interesting
      You should be uninstalling the old version before you install the new one.


      Wasn't that the mantra when it was in its pre-1.0 days. I remember people complaining then, but the response was "it's not yet 1.0, what do you expect".

      Now that it is an official release, I don't think expecting users to uninstall before installing an 'update' is the best way to go.

      BTW. It does seem to operate without doing an uninstall first. I went from 1.0 to 1.0.1, then to 1.0.2 without uninstalling first. Though the entires are all listed in Add/Remove (not that I much care).

    3. Re:Update? by Ogerman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Firefox/Thunderbird auto-update is currently worth crap. Just download the new version and use the silent install option: ie.) Firefox_Setup_1.0.2.exe -ms

      The same thing works for Thunderbird. Usually I think it deletes the old Add/Remove options. (or at least one of them..) This is the most convenient quick-and-dirty way to update a bunch of machines in a small Windows domain.. put that command in everyone's login script the night before.

    4. Re:Update? by jackbird · · Score: 2, Insightful
      *BZZZT*

      Sorry.

      When was the last time you talked to an end user?

    5. Re:Update? by Bauguss · · Score: 5, Insightful

      to all those saying how to change your registry or those saying uninstall first.

      This is moronic. We are talking about a program that is getting a lot of attention from a lot of people. Hell, my grandparents even use it.

      That said, my grandparents SHOULD NOT have to uninstall and then reinstall. It won't make sense to them because it is retarded. An update function should be just that. It shouldn't ask all the same questions it did back when you first installed it. It shouldn't ask if you want firefox as your home page. Those things have already been done. I think when you click update it should just do it. It should download, install, and then pop up a window saying it needs to restart the browser. It should then close the browser, and reopen it. (preferably back to the same url you were at when you got the update message)

      Now that I've said that, thanks for the registry edit info. I needed to know that. (the update for Google's Picasa did the same thing)

  11. Just in time... by ShineyMcShine · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Firefox was crashing when the address bar received focus. After the upgrade, problem resolved...

  12. Adblock definitions site... by Golgafrinchan · · Score: 5, Informative
    Speaking of which...

    At this site, you can find updated Adblock definitions that you can easily import. Just scroll down to the most recent update, download, and install.

    Ever since I installed these, I've had to manually block something only a couple of times. They work great!

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    1. Re:Adblock definitions site... by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Geocities never lasts long...

      Here is a mirror to the latest updates 2005-03-20a.txt

  13. Re:help me mozilla! by hitman200ca · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Those smily popup windows are an spyware thing not a popup thing. They are generated from within windows usually. Download and run a spyware app.

  14. Proactive release by rminsk · · Score: 3, Informative

    This release is to fix a buffer overflow bug in the GIF handling code. The flaw was discovered by Internet Security Systems and patched before the public learned of the issue. When was the last time you heard of other browsers fixing problems proactively instead of reactively?

  15. Easiest way to update by woobieman29 · · Score: 4, Funny
    On my Wintel laptop was to go to Tools>Options>Advanced>SoftwareUpdate and press the 'Check Now' button. It automatically d/l's the patch and starts the install.

    Hopefully there is a Debian build when I get home so that I can update my MEPIS/Debian box. (Or is that GNU/MEPIS/DEBIAN/Linux?? :-) )

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  16. Re:Uninstall first please by tajmorton · · Score: 5, Informative

    Really? Mine worked fine with just installing right over 1.0.1 with Windows XP. Under Linux...no go (of course).
    However, Autopackage works great (if you've have FF installed from Autopackage): http://www.wildgardenseed.com/Taj/autopackage/fire fox-1.0.2.x86.package
    (BTW, if you do try this Autopackage, we'd love some feedback on how it works--taj at wildgardenseed dot com).

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  17. It's Easy by repetty · · Score: 3, Informative

    Download the new version and OS X then mount it as a disk image.

    Drag the Firefox icon from the image folder to your Applications folder and click the OK button to approve the overwrite.

    Then, you are done!

    Easy.

  18. Re:1.0x browser crashes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's not CTRL, you're hitting ALT.

    And it looks like you're overshooting W and hitting F4.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that.

  19. what would be very cool ... by bizitch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If Firefox incorporated a bittorrent agent inside the browser for updates. Simple click and launch a bittorrent download - then install followed by some minimal upload time - say 5 minutes of bandwidth

    that would be cool ... heh heh

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  20. When are they gonna fix this? by pherthyl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ever going fix this?

    Its not so bad on my work comp, but downright embarrasing on my girlfriend's laptop when there's 5 Firefox entries in the Add/Remove Programs dialog.

    1. Re:When are they gonna fix this? by Carlos+Laviola · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you're gonna lie, at least don't post on your blog about you changing Apache settings to disable indexing.

  21. Autoupdate just sitting there? by fembots · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Anyone else having problem with the autoupdate not doing anything? I "Check Update" and was given an option to install 1.0.2, so obviously it knew 1.0.2 is out.

    However after clicking on "Install Now" it just shows "downloading and installing updates" but there is no internet connection at all, so it's not really doing anything.

    Otherwise can I please have a link to download the patch? Last time I went mozilla.org but couldn't find the patch, and had to download the whole 4.3MB 1.0.1

  22. missing information by Fry-kun · · Score: 2, Informative

    Umm.. Firefox 1.01 has come out already. I was running it until today. It's Thunderbird that has skipped a number. The article blatantly ignores the fact that Thunderbird 1.02 has ALSO been released, along with Firefox 1.02.

    That ignorance, of course, is nothing compared to Microsoft, which hasn't released ANY updates for my version of IE (not that I use it ;) for a month or so. Guess they're too busy patenting the Internet.

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  23. Ugh, no zip builds by thegrommit · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It seems there are no official zip builds for formal releases. Asa's blog explains why and suggests that those looking for them "look at the build ID in the final release, and get the same nightly build from the same branch".

    Only problem? The release notes don't specify the build ID, so you have to run the installer first. When you do that, you discover the build ID is 20050317. Only there don't (currently) appear to be any 1.02 zip builds in any of the aviary directories for 20050317.

    Am I missing something?

  24. Solution by Adam9 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Go this address: about:config
    Right click anywhere
    Select new, integer
    Name: privacy.popups.disable_from_plugins
    Value: 2

    -- Taken from another /. user

  25. Re:Mirrors by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Informative

    automatic update worked for me.

    options->advanced->software update->check now.

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  26. Autodebug by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With Bugzilla and the community, their backend that addresses security bugs is pretty tight. But why is the desktop end limited by the archaic announcement/download/install scenario? I'd prefer to accept subscription to the security bugfix channel, RSS polled every few hours or hundred pages. If it authenticated the patches, I'd get a nonmodal notification message, with "More Info" and "Always Autoapply" buttons in the window. That would make their rapid responses worthwhile. If they could upgrade in the background without slowing down my surfing, with on-demand rollbacks, I'd probably just autoupdate, looking for upgrade notices in my email.

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    1. Re:Autodebug by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Funny

      OK - anyone else who wants to help, now that I've got the project to classic SourceForge "pre-Alpha" stage, let me know :).

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  27. Re:Uninstall first please by Ark42 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Add/Remove programs is hardly a list of installed programs. Its just a list generated from HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Uninstall
    Nothing really magical going on there. Two entries for firefox doesn't mean you have two copies of firefox installed. Delete the registry key if you really care that much? Most people are too busy USING their computer to worry about what little glitches are in a dialog in control panel that they never use.

  28. Re:1.0x browser crashes. by bubkus_jones · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can't say I've experienced this error. I just logged in and out of my 4 yahoo accounts and no problems. I don't have the abovementioned mplayer-plugin problem either.

    Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8b2) Gecko/20050303 Firefox/1.0+

    Downloaded binary from mozilla.org on a Debian Testing system.

  29. Re:Auto-Updates? by tobiasly · · Score: 3, Informative

    It already does. Be sure automatic updates are turned on under Tools, Options, Advanced, Software Updates.

    There were some problems with auto update in 1.0 that were fixed in 1.0.1. You should now see a message box in the bottom right corner (like when downloads finish) when there are critical updates.

    Also, another easily-overlooked item is the up-pointing arrow that sometimes appears in the top right corner. This means updates are available. Red for critical updates, blue or green for non-critical updates.

  30. Will we lose extensions at every minor update? by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    After the install I was informed that my extensions were disabled until new ones come out to ensure compatability. I can understand why that could be important for major updates but will I have to lose my gmail notifier every time a minor bug fix comes out?

    1. Re:Will we lose extensions at every minor update? by tobiasly · · Score: 2, Informative

      It depends on the extension author. Whoever wrote the extension must have coded it specifically to one version instead of a range. I have a dozen extensions installed and none of them complained from 1.0 to 1.0.1 to 1.0.2.

      Note that .xpi files are really .jar files that you can unpack and edit the "allowed versions" tag to make them more lenient. I forget the exact details but a little Googling should turn it up if you're interested.

  31. Re:Mirrors by wdd1040 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Although the ebuild has propagated to the rsync rotation, the distfile won't go out until a server does its sync once every 2 hours.

    So.... chill.

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  32. Slackers... by LokieLizzy · · Score: 2, Interesting
    This has been out for almost a week. I've been running 1.0.2 since word leaked out about a beta available on the mozilla blog.

    However, this was where I found out, so I can't take all the credit :^)

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  33. Re:Uninstall first please by thegrommit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > Most people are too busy USING their computer to worry about what little glitches are in a dialog in control panel that they never use.

    Many people still think using "the internet" means clicking on the Explorer icon. A minor item like this doesn't help convince them to switch.

  34. then why bother with autoupdate at all ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful


    You should be uninstalling the old version before you install the new one.

    which bit of autoupdate don't they get ?

    i shouldnt be doing anything other than clicking an update icon,everything should be taken care of
    does Microsoft say "to install SP2 you must uninstall SP1" ? so why do i have to in mozilla ?

    never mind me having to disappear into advanced settings to check updates manually when in IE its on the tools menu, easy to get at if i want to check

    at the moment the word to describe their update process is rubbish

  35. Re:1.0x browser crashes. by nametaken · · Score: 2, Informative

    BTW: I heard that Yahoo will be giving out 1GB accounts starting April.

    Yes, we can verify that. :)

  36. Re:no data message by derEikopf · · Score: 3, Informative
    I had the same problem and the following worked like a charm:
    1. type about:config in the URL box
    2. change browser.xul.error_pages.enabled to "True"
  37. Memory leak by Wolfier · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Have they fixed the memory leaks in 1.0 yet?
    Having an idle browser leaking 300 MB of memory per day is like a self-inflicted DOS attack.

  38. RTFA by geekee · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is a patch for a major security flaw in Firefox. I hope Firefox users are putting the bandwidth to good use or they will face the same problems as IE users.

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    1. Re:RTFA by It'sYerMam · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Ahem.

      Isn't bashing OSS supporters for a minority of people who believe that it's invulnerable, godsent and sacrosanct a little childish and immature? However humorous and/or karma whoreish it may appear, I think it's slightly unfair to imply that anyone who believes that F/OSS has benefits over other business practices is so over-zealous.
      Before you whack me back for not recognising a joke, yes I did notice the intended humour, but it's so goddamn old that it really doesn't count.

      [/rant]

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  39. Big bucks, no whammies, no Slashdot bias.. Beeowww by Proc6 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Let's see those true colors...

    "When ever I access my mail account at https://mail.yahoo.com, [with Firefox 1.0x] the browser crashes when I log out."
    Score: 0 Offtopic

    "I hate those smilie popups which seems to be unblockable, please make them go away. [which is to say Firefox still isn't blocking all popups]
    Score: 0 Offtopic

    "I hope this fixes the problems with this document contains no data."
    Score: 0 Troll

    "Open source software can react far faster to new threats than any closed source development model."
    Score: +5 Informative

    Mmmm gotta love that pure Slashdot fanboi machine. Work in a plug for Linux or Open Source, instant +5. Mention a valid and existing bug with the open source software the post is about, you're an offtopic troll, probably a NAMBLA member or Nazi too. Die!

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  40. Dealing with the two add / remove entries by Jeff85 · · Score: 4, Informative

    A quick Google search revealed that you can also remove an entry from the registry manually with details found at here. I did this myself, installed the 1.02 version, and all seems to be running smoothly.

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  41. Filterset.G instructions - important! by Mitchell+Mebane · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't forget the proper settings you need to get the most out of Filterset.G:

    Recommended Adblock settings for Filterset.G

    [To modify: Tools > Adblock > Preferences]

    Hide Ads x Remove Ads

    Ablock Options:
    Obj-Tabs
    x Collapse Blocked Elements
    x Check Parent Links
    x Site Blocking
    x Keep List Sorted

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  42. Re:Mirrors by psi42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And if you're not running firefox with root/administrator privileges, how is that thing supposed to work?

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  43. Re:Big bucks, no whammies, no Slashdot bias.. Beeo by lachlan76 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Open source software can react far faster to new threats than any closed source development model."

    Well the story IS about an update.

    Those other comments you show that were modded offtopic are *bug reports*. This isn't where you go to file bug reports.

  44. Re:home page reset by skadus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You have to be really careful when installing. The very last page (Your install finished successfully, blahblahblah) has two checkmarks: one resets your homepage to Firefox's default, the other launches Firefox after hitting the Finish/Done button. It's only been like that the last few releases. Hard to catch if you're click-happy during installs.

  45. Re:MTN. DEW, GABE, EARLY POST by ShagratTheTitleless · · Score: 2, Funny
    PHP is for fucking children

    I thought that was what Michael Jackson was for.

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  46. Fixed in 1.1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I can't find the Bugzilla entry at the moment, but this bug HAS BEEN FIXED in the trunk. It will be incorporated into the next branch, Firefox 1.1, which comes out in two to three months.

  47. Firefox update feature fails by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Firefox didn't let me know about the new version, I had to read it on Slashdot or I wouldn't even know.

    I told it to "Check now" for updates, and got this error:

    "Firefox was not able to find any available updates"

    Umm, there is an available update, a whole new version.

    Maybe the Firefox team should have Firefox check the Slashdot RSS feed to see if it needs updates.

    Sigh.

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  48. Bad auto-update in Firefox by storem · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When do they start pushing this security updates to me? Or manage to inform me when I first open my browser, not when I browse to the /. website??

  49. Problems - homepage hijacked? by djsable · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So, I updated on my work comp, and it now has some really odd issues.

    It hijacked my homepage to put mozilla homepage on it, even though I unchecked that option.

    when I change it back to my homepage, it loads with my homepage just fine on boot, but when I click the home button in the toolbar, I get sent to the moz homepage. WTF?!

    Any one else seeing that? any idea how to fix this?

    badger

  50. Trillian isn't OSS by kurtmckee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While I understand your point, I'd like to point out that Trillian isn't open source.

    On a side note, K-Meleon and Trillian aren't cross-platform. I consistently put my friends and family on Firefox, Thunderbird, and Gaim, so that when they eventually move to Linux (an inevitability, I think, barring an Apple-based purchase), they'll be well-acquainted with the applications they'll use most.

  51. Re:Gaim crashes by jp10558 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Really? Mmmm, I've found Trillian 3 to be very slick looking, and incredibly stable. Well, 0.74 was stable too. Never crashed for me. I mean, never in 3 years of use.

    I've also noticed on my crappy campus connection that I'm keeping a connection to AIM via Trillian when everyone using AIM/Dead AIM is getting disconnected every 20 minutes or so.

    Not to mention the nice easy encrypted IM's (I know, not perfect, but combined with direct connections, likely good enough for most. Hey, if anyone want's to do a plugin that implements a GPG
    interface, I'll be the first to use it. I won't switch IM clients though, I cannot stand the interface of any other one I've tried. This included GAIM (Huge, Ugly, One network feel), Miranda (Small, Unstable, unpolished), AIM(Ads.))

    YMMV of course.

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  52. Much more critical known holes in IE ! by free2 · · Score: 2, Informative

    let's keep it to the facts.
    I'm a big fan of Secunia, the only site i know that offers a page of unpatched known holes for each software.
    And i can tell you that IE has always more Highly Critical unpatched known holes than Firefox:
    IE holes
    Firefox holes

  53. Re:Mirrors by karstux · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Firefox update process really sucks from an ease-of-use point of view. Since it's a complete new install, I wouldn't even call it an "update"...

    For a proper update procedure, it seems you have to download the new version, uninstall the old one, and then re-install the new one - hoping that all plugins survive the procedure.

    That's not user friendly, and will drive people away from Firefox, perhaps back to IE, which is definitely easier to keep up to date. I do hope that Firefox will get a true "patch" mechanism yet...

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  54. Re:Mirrors by hey · · Score: 3, Informative

    I did that in Windows but then in the Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel I got entries for Mozila Fire for 1.0, Mozilla Firefox 1.0.1, Mozilla Firefox 1.0.2. So if you install Firefox on top of a previous install it doesn't remove the old one. It should warn you about this or remove the old guy.

  55. Re:Bugs by Phil+John · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's fixed in the aviary branch, slated for the next proper point release. In the meantime do what I did, install the SlashFix extension which forces a reflow after any slashdot page has loaded (and only slashdot pages).

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  56. Re:Keeping it private by bunratty · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, when you submit a bug to Bugzilla you can mark it as a security bug. If you do that, only you and the security group will be able to see it. If it's a new legitimate security bug, you can then expect a check for $500.

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  57. Mess with the bull U get the horns! by CaymanIslandCarpedie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is /. If you say anything which may in anyway be taken as a negitive commentary (true or not) about FF, Linux, or any F/OSS then you are a troll.

    Sorry, thats just the way it is. If you don't like it, go find another community where open free discussion of all ideas is encouraged. We don't do that here!

    Two types of posts will be accepted here. 1) Flowing praise for any/all F/OSS projects or 2) Spewing hatred toward MS$. Any other ideas or discussions are strictly prohibited!

    ;-)

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  58. Six, count 'em six.... by lukateake · · Score: 2
    Mozilla Firefox entries in the "Add/Remove Programs" dialog: 0.8, 0.9, 0.9.3, 1.0, 1.0.1 and 1.0.2.

    <sigh>

    Don't give me that "edit the registry" b.s. either. I know how to do it but I choose not to. I want another dozen entries first before I take a screen shot and send it back to them.

    1. Re:Six, count 'em six.... by bradleyland · · Score: 2

      I've got the same crap, and I've used the built in "update" feature every time. This needs some priority. An update function should be a lot more tidy, even if it does run the full installer. Most refined products that are available in version releases check for previous installs and ask you how to handle the upgrade.

      The current update feature is a misnomer. All it does is download the latest installer and run it for you. And it doesn't even do a very good job at that. E.g. doesn't kill existing firefox process, dumps installer in your default download location and leaves in there, etc.

  59. Re:1.0x browser crashes. -- mod original poster up by Travis+Fisher · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Someone really should mod this original poster up -- it isn't offtopic at all! The story is about an upgrade to Firefox to cure some security-related crash issues. The poster is experiencing other crash issues. (And remember that any crash has a good chance of being a security issue).

  60. Re:Mirrors by me+at+werk · · Score: 2, Informative

    This bug is still being worked on. It's Bug 247884 (I can't direct link, they block links from slashdot.)

    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=247 88 4

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  61. Using Camino instead of Firefox in OS X by espek · · Score: 2, Informative
    Personally, I prefer Safari in OS X, but on my work computer I can't use Safari because of some f'up Proxy reason. So I have to use non-Safari browsers to get through the proxy and firewall.

    I was using Firefox, but recently switched to Camino after seeing a post on Slash. I think Camino uses a lot / most of the stuff developed for Firefox. Not really sure what the difference is, but if anybody knows the finer points between Camino and Firefox, please educate me.

    Camino is REALLY fast, and uses a lot less system resources on OS X than Firefox. But the best way I can describe Camino is that it's Firefox optimized for OS X. Camino has a better look and feel in OS X than Firefox. Don't be put of by 0.8 release, it's solid. I encourage all OS X people using Firefox to try Camino.

    One thing I don't like is the name....I can't get the ugly station wagon with the rally wheels out of my head.

  62. Huh by antizeus · · Score: 2, Informative
    That's funny, Firefox crashes so inrequently on me that I don't remember the last time it happened. Also, it just took three seconds to load (not ten) on a machine that has half the memory and clock speed as what you describe.

    Of course, I'm using it with an OS that's not a total piece of shit, so your mileage may vary.

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