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UCSB Student Engineers Grade Hack

An anonymous reader writes "The UCSB Daily Nexus reports "A UCSB student is being charged with four felonies after she allegedly stole the identity of two professors and used the information to change her own and several other students' grades, police said." The article goes on to note that, though working a few tricks to get into the system, she was fairly unsophisticated, and in fact failed to conceal her IP address from authorities. With other computing snafus recently making headlines, are universities too careless with their data?"

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  1. Blowjob by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Blowjob would have done the same without all this popularity. Huh .. kids will never learn.

    1. Re:Blowjob by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Gee, no wonder women are leaving it.

      Geeks are starting to act like construction workers..."if a woman wants to get ahead, all she has to do is suck some dick."

    2. Re:Blowjob by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Professor, I will do ANYTHING to get an A. (wink wink nudge nudge"

      "Well then, why don't you try studying?"

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    3. Re:Blowjob by The+Amazing+Fish+Boy · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd think her popularity would increase with the amount of sucking.

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    4. Re:Blowjob by DarKry · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Fact of the matter is this is just going to happen more and more often. University networks are wide open, first there are computer labs where any one can sit down and pop in a knoppix std cd. then they can fire up ettercap and go to town on everything getting passed on the switch. When campuses use SSL protected systems for grades it is just asking for trouble. Its just a matter of time before Joe Blow will have eery profs passwords. Once that happens it can be tempting to change a couple grades here and there. And grades are nothing compared to the other information that can be obtained, SSN's of the entire campus for instance... Basicly ARP needs to get secure because there is really no way for a college (that has to have an open network to function) can be a safe place to send important data back and forth. Maybe the solution is a private network for profs with the important info on it. Good lesson though.

    5. Re:Blowjob by R.Caley · · Score: 5, Funny
      Gee, no wonder women are leaving it.

      What with men having the advantage because they give better blowjobs you mean?

      "if a woman wants to get ahead, all she has to do is suck some dick."

      Strange choice of example. It says that men are easily corrupted by offers of trivial sexual favours. It doesn't say anything negative about women at all.

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    6. Re:Blowjob by PGillingwater · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sorry, you're right -- you have misunderstood. Any switched network will happily deliver packets to the wrong port if the MITM has used ARP cache poisoning, by feeding fake ARP information to the client and server -- the switch won't protect you from being sniffed unless it locks MAC addresses to IP addresses (which most switches don't do.)

      As I see it, the only options are:

      1) Eliminate ARP entirely, by locking ARP caches with fixed addresses of critical devices (an administrative nightmare);
      2) Use an IDS to look for bogus ARP chatter, and respond very quickly to illegal injections.

      Naturally, my company designs software to do the latter. We scan the CAM tables of all switches constantly, and correlate with the ARP caches on routers, and alert on any discrepancies. We sell only into high-end security accounts, including Banks.

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    7. Re:Blowjob by c_g_hills · · Score: 2, Informative

      802.1x with EAP-TLS or PEAP prevents this kind of "attack", by requiring the client to present a certificate to the switch before it is permitted onto the network. Primarly used in wireless networks, it is now gaining ground in wired networks, especially in academic networks where there is the problem of having network ports accessible to all and sundry.

    8. Re:Blowjob by jez9999 · · Score: 3, Informative

      University networks are wide open, first there are computer labs where any one can sit down and pop in a knoppix std cd...

      Well, here's one solution - set the BIOS not to boot from CD. Set a sensible BIOS password. That's that problem sorted.

      Seriously, I don't know why so many people bang on about Linux-on-a-CD being dangerous; it's like ActiveX - it's only dangerous if your computer setup allows it to be.

    9. Re:Blowjob by RWerp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It says nothing about women or their behaviour, it is purely an assertion that they have an option open to them.

      You're assuming a lot. I know a lot of people who'd fire a woman offering a blowjob for a favour, if they were her employer/boss.

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    10. Re:Blowjob by locr1an · · Score: 5, Funny

      oh, men are usually so easy we don't *have* to offer a blowjob... I remember I used to manage an auto shop, and occasionally when things were slow I'd pull my car into the garage and change the oil, tune it up, etc. I kid you not, all I'd have to do is put my car on the lift and say in a tired voice "this drain plugs on really tight!" Next thing you know I'd have two guys working on my car to prove how easy it all is while I drank my coffee and listened to the radio show. please women...let them think they help us, let them think *they is* so so smart before you mess up my whole M.O.!!!

    11. Re:Blowjob by Not_Wiggins · · Score: 2, Funny

      I know a lot of people who'd fire a woman offering a blowjob for a favour, if they were her employer/boss.

      Resumes, man! I need resumes!

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  2. Shoulda used an open wireless access point! by xmas2003 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    She might have gotten away with it if she had used an open wireless access point - shoulda changed the grades at Starbucks! ;-)

    Mainstream Media could take a lesson from the UCSB guys - nice writeup with some nice details that explain things pretty well - good read.

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    1. Re:Shoulda used an open wireless access point! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      ugh. chicks are hacking their college grades now.

      Comp sci has suddenly become too common for me, I need a new career.

    2. Re:Shoulda used an open wireless access point! by jd · · Score: 5, Funny
      She might have gotten away with it if she had used an open wireless access point


      Nonono! The line is "if it hadn't been for those pesky kids and that dog!"

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    3. Re:Shoulda used an open wireless access point! by MikeFM · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, changing the account with your name on it won't give a damn thing away as long as your IP is untraceable. Who'd think to look at your name.

      A smarter hacker would infect the system with a script that would gradually, over time, boost their GPA in a difficult to trace method. Maybe figure out a minor improvement that you'd make every day to all students that had a student id number that fit a given algorithm.. where your own id just happens to be one that comes up most frequently. Say that your student number was divisable by 3 so one day you'd improve all that were divesable by 3, the next day 6, the next day 9, and back to 3, or some such pattern. (More complex is better.. just an example..)

      Gee.. in my day we actually used some imagination when hacking the schools computers. Of course I never bothered altering my grades. I was more interested on messing with the lab rats. (sysadmins, lab monitors, etc)

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    4. Re:Shoulda used an open wireless access point! by R.Caley · · Score: 4, Interesting
      A smarter hacker would infect the system with a script that would gradually, over time, boost their GPA

      Anythig which boosts your score is going to point at you.

      What you want to do is plant evidence of the professors having a bias against you. Subtle things. Enough to form the basis of an appeal. Then you drop your grades in your good subjects so a review will see that you are a victim and give you a pass.

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    5. Re:Shoulda used an open wireless access point! by jasonla · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Disclaimer: I am the author of the article.

      Thank you for the kind comments, xmas2003 and obsol33t.

      I'd like to clarify and reply to some of the comments made on Slashdot, if you would allow.

      I did not think this incidient could be considered "hacking." Notice that we didn't use the terms "hacker," "hacked," "exploited" or "compromised" in the headlines or article when describing what happened. Like the article says, there were technically not exploits in the system -- no SQL injection, buffer overflow, XSS, etc.

      Not every person could repeat what Ramirez allegedly did. Her job gave her a specific access to personal information. It's really a case of identity theft, a felony offense. The police are responsible for charging Ramirez, not the university.

      When reading the story, you have to remember that it's a general newspaper, not 2600 or the like. The three (3) paragraphs, out of roughly 30, about the knowledge required to enter eGrades was included to give readers a perspective on the difficulty level needed to do what the perpetrator did. "Was this person a 'true hacker' or was it something simpler than that?"

      The phrase, "required some technical savvy," was meant to indicate a small amount, not emphasize, of technical knowledge was needed.

      Also, the lede -- the first sentence in a news article -- states, the grades of several students, not just Ramirez's and her roommate's, were changed. Police would not release further specific details about others' changes because of the ongoing investigation, as the article stated.

      Schmidt, as far as I know, is a very competent network programmer/sysadmin/computer geek. He's also pleasant on the phone. =) I'm guessing he simplified his statements because he was talking to the press and did not know if I had any technical knowledge. For the record, I know enough. =)

  3. Can't Hack It by Teknobob · · Score: 5, Funny

    I guess it brings a new meaning to not being able to hack it in college.
    *ducks*

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  4. Pfft... this is nothing by Raul654 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can beat this by a mile. A friend-of-a-friend of mine got busted for changing 3 of her failing grades to A's. How? All the grades are filed electronically. She guessed one professor's password; two other times, she called up campus IT services, claimed to be a professor so-and-so, claimed she should log in, and could they change the password for her? And IT services happily went along. She was busted for (among other things) federal identity theft, which always struck me as odd since it never crossed state lines.

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  5. Who needs programmatic security... by kwoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... when the policy enforced by the program is broken to begin with?

    From TFA:

    The university's grading system, eGrades, is an in-house program that professors can access via the Internet to submit and alter students' grades. eGrades uses UCSB NetID, a campuswide authentication system, to check a user's identity. If a user forgets their password, they can reset it by entering their Social Security number and date of birth, Schmidt said.

    This is evil. SSNs and DoBs are far too easy to find. The suspect worked for an insurance agency, but it would not be difficult to find this information through other means.

    For more examples of such problems in systems, check out Risks Digest.

    1. Re:Who needs programmatic security... by stewby18 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But on the other hand:

      When a grade is altered, a feedback system is automatically triggered to inform professors and the Registrar's Office of the changes.

      "There's basically a feedback mechanism, and ultimately, it comes back to the feedback mechanism and the individual department trying to reconcile grades and saying 'It doesn't look like this is correct and how can this happen?'"

      So while the access point security is awful, there are processes in place to flag potential problems. At least they are practicing security in depth, even if one of their layers is paper-thin.

    2. Re:Who needs programmatic security... by jschottm · · Score: 2, Interesting

      SSNs and DoBs are far too easy to find.

      My $CREDITCARDCOMPANY just got gobbled up by a bigger one. One of their "innovations" is that you can't have an arbitrary ID - it has to be all numbers and defaults to your SSN. I had a little talk with one of their managers who said "that's the way it is and we have no intention of changing it" who suggested that I could use my phone number instead of my SSN if I wanted an easy to remember but "more" secure ID.

      On top of that, their passwords are currently alphanumeric only, which makes me guess that they aren't hashing the passwords and are storing the password in plaintext in the the database (yes, you'd have to be really stupid to do that, but these guys give every indication of being that dumb), which means anyone that does penetrate their db system has all kinds of good stuff at his/her fingertips.

      They're my soon to be ex-$CREDITCARDCOMPANY...

    3. Re:Who needs programmatic security... by ethank · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, I'm a teacher at UCSB, so I've used eGrade before.

      eGrades security is far worse than that. It doesn't require a social security number and date of birth, rather it uses the "university id" that at student uses to login to some campus wireless networks, campus e-mail and the uweb/ustorage accounts.

      Here's the login interface:

      http://www.egrades.sa.ucsb.edu/

      Resetting the password requires:

      Last Name, Perm Number (id number), last four of social and birthdate.

      Obtaining these, albeit not easy is not that hard at all.

    4. Re:Who needs programmatic security... by mrchaotica · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If they're really that bad you should tell us what credit card company it is!

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  6. Tor and Privoxy by dolo666 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The least she could have done was use Tor and Privoxy. Oh well. So much for changing her grade. Now that she's going to be a bonified convict, she can pull down the six figures like Mitnick.

  7. From TFA by ImaLamer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "It's not like 300 grades were changed or anything like that," he said. "It's not even close."

    Like one person getting credit for something they didn't do isn't enough... its got to be mass fraud to care?

    "It's believed at this time that [Ramirez] accessed the computer system from her house," Signa said. "There is also a second indication that the computer was accessed at one point from the office where she worked, so its believed [she used eGrades at] both locations."

    Idiot!

  8. Professor mistakes by suso · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Back in 1997 I saw my computer science professor log into his sun box, which was being projected onto a screen for everyone to see. He started to login, but didn't realize that he was typing his password into the username field, thus making it visible. I looked around the room to see if anyone was hurriedly writing down his password. Amazingly, nobody was. Or they were being conspicuous about it.

    1. Re:Professor mistakes by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Back in 1997 I saw my computer science professor log into his sun box, which was being projected onto a screen for everyone to see.

      I had an instructor who did the same thing. Except his password was 26 characters long. He did denied that it started with the letter 'a' and ended with the letter 'z'. Go figure.

    2. Re:Professor mistakes by Ours · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well I remember during database class, the teacher was making a demo with a e-commerce form on the projector. He was filling out a payment form with his name, address and all. He was almost done when most of the class realised that he didn't type random numbers for his credit card number: he was holding his card in his hand! The teacher must have suddently realised what risk his was exposing himself and quickly finished with his demo making sure he closed the form that contained all his info. 30 seconds more his credit would have been in trouble. Or at least he would have gotten some very interresting mail orders delivered.

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    3. Re:Professor mistakes by Alioth · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh, in the days of vt320 terminals, you could just write a little shell script that would look like the terminal server, then look like the login: prompt of whatever machine the student was going to. Much fun was had with that one.

      These days, it's a bit more complex (Microsoft would like you believe that it's impossible because of the ctrl-alt-del secure attention sequence, but if you have physical access to the hardware, well, you can just replace the GINA with your evil version), but still very possible so I do have to be a little paranoid of public terminals!

  9. Is this really 'hacking'? by Prophetic_Truth · · Score: 4, Informative

    I know the term has been bastardized and now encompasses a wide range of activities. However, this seems more like fraud than hacking to me. The term social engineering should be applied to obtaining information that deals with technology, not having someone change a grade. You could 'social engineer' clearing out your school by calling in a bomb threat, but that's hardly hacking...

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  10. The Irony is by therealfitzman · · Score: 5, Funny

    the only grade that was changed was an F in "Ethics 101".

  11. War Games by bonch · · Score: 3, Funny

    Changing your grade is as simple as looking for the password taped under the desk!

  12. SSN by The+Amazing+Fish+Boy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    . If a user forgets their password, they can reset it by entering their Social Security number and date of birth, Schmidt said.

    Signa said Ramirez worked for the Goleta branch of Allstate Insurance, where she had access to the personal information of two UCSB professors who were insured with the company. Ramirez reset their passwords using private information she obtained from her job, Signa said.


    SSN stored by University and Insurance company and God knows where else. Yet it is supposed to be a secret between you and the Government.

  13. i wouldn't worry about the people that got caught by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    i would worry about the people that didn't

    [*_-]

  14. From TFA by Suhas · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "An important distinction in this case, compared to some other instances you've seen reported on around the country, the integrity and security of our grading system is intact and was not compromised," said Paul Desruisseaux, UCSB assistant vice chancellor of public affairs.

    If a user forgets their password, they can reset it by entering their Social Security number and date of birth, Schmidt said.

    The Security of the grading system is INTACT? Hell yeah!

  15. The smart cheater... by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ... doesn't try to hacks into the system after the exam to fix his grades (which will be spotted as soon as teacher compares computerized results with her own records.

    No, the smart cheater hacks into the system before the exam, in order to lift the subject (and possibly answers...) from the teacher's homedirectory ;-) Much harder to detect, unless culprits boast about it on Slashdot twelve years after...

  16. Cheaters by softparade · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ah cheating how it has evolved.
    I remember reading awhile ago when a middle school student changed his grade by creating I believe a macro that increased his grade by 10% by every time the class grades were pulled up. Eventually he was caught when he had a percentage far above 100.

    another cheating example that comes to mind. Is when a professor decided to check how many papers turned in were plagiarized with http://www.turnitin.com/ and found that a sizable number of students were cheating.

    As a university student at a large university, I have noticed that some classes prevent cheating more than others. For example, in my chem class which has over a thousand students four forms are given, empty seats all around you. It is nearly impossible to cheat. My physics class I am taken now there are 2 forms and students are placed directly next to each other. Needless to say after the second midterm a student went from a perfect score to only one out of fifteen correct. But when classes only have 3 exams that make your exam cheating must be delt with extremely harshly. These mild security flaws with technology that keep appearing are usually due to weak passwords anyways. This case a social security number was the lone culprit. I think a levelheaded IT department and some well planned passwords and password recovery processes are what should be focused on now. I feel that cheating is a most urgent program in colleges

    1. Re:Cheaters by void* · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Needless to say after the second midterm a student went from a perfect score to only one out of fifteen correct.

      I never went to college.

      However, in high school, my history teacher noticed that a good proportion of the answers given on tests were highly correlated - not exact, per se, but suspiciously close to the exact same answers.

      He made up seven different versions of the test, and ensured that the answer key for any version was different enough from the others to cause dramatic test failures in the case of copying. (multiple choice, 5 options, 30 questions - plenty of combinations).

      That test, about six to ten people, people, all in a rough blob behind and to the right of me, failed.

      I was oblivious to the fact that they were copying me, but it was pretty funny - he'd given me one version of the test and every one else a different version. After that I got rather paranoid about making sure my answers weren't visible to others.

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    2. Re:Cheaters by kbielefe · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I thought you were in my high school history class for a minute there. My teacher suspected that some students were receiving the answers from the class before. Just before Christmas break, word got around to our entire class (not just the usual cheaters) that the answers to the matching test spelled "MERRY CHRISTMAS" down the side. The teacher said as a Christmas gift he made an easy test and anyone who finished early could leave for lunch early. I did the first few problems just to be sure. "M", check. "E", check. Wait, whats a B doing where the R shoud be? About that time around half the class is walking out with smug looks on their faces and the other half is just as smug because they actually did problem 3.

      In Junior High we had to memorize the preamble to the United States constitution and I was having trouble. I had looked a little bit at one of my Dad's old shorthand books, and so I painstakingly wrote out key phrases in shorthand so it would just look like doodles sticking out of the edge of my book. Well it turned out at the test that I couldn't remember how to read the shorthand notes I had written, but that I knew it perfectly because of the long time I had spent trying to do it the "easy" way.

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  17. Mack Daddy says "NO!" by John+Seminal · · Score: 2, Interesting
    She might have gotten away with it if she had used an open wireless access point - shoulda changed the grades at Starbucks! ;-)

    Believe it or not, they keep mac address databases, any self respecting router will. Who is to say the police can't trace the IP to an wireless access point and check Mac addresses? Who is to say that free is really free, that it's not one big honey pot? They have camera's? They know the time it happened??

    It ain't that easy...

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    1. Re:Mack Daddy says "NO!" by wooley-one · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not that I'd condone this, but it actually is that easy. You change the reported MAC address. Not a big deal at all. They'll have a really hard time tracking down who bought the card with the MAC of "FEEDDEADBEEF".

      The reported MAC can be changed at the OS level, and there is no need to alter the card in any way.

    2. Re:Mack Daddy says "NO!" by Yokaze · · Score: 3, Informative
      > Believe it or not, they keep mac address databases, any self respecting router will.
      ifconfig wlan0 down
      wlanctl-ng wlan0 dot11req_reset setdefaultmib=true macaddress=$RANDOMMAC
      ifconfig wlan0 hw ether $RANDOMMAC
      ifconfig wlan0 up
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    3. Re:Mack Daddy says "NO!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      we're talking about a command on your machine, to change your MAC address, so as to make you unidentifiable (not that a MAC does identify anyone anyways). Do you know anything about this? better check the back of your computer, it might have a serial connection to a machine off the web! fuckwit....

    4. Re:Mack Daddy says "NO!" by petecarlson · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Since when is a MAC address any useful identifier?

      Alone it means little, but along with other information, it can sometimes tell you something. Yesterday I put up a new AP and left it open as a loss leader of sorts as there are other free conections in the area. (The first hit is free) Going through my access logs I came accros a user that used quite a bit of upstream but little downstream bandwidth. I cross checked the MAC with my dhcp server log and came up with 'client-hostname "your-2r8c4odfb2"'. That's an odd thing to name your computer. Thinking that 2r8c4odfb2 might me some wierd 1337 speak, I googled it and found: your-2r8c4odfb2.cpe.ozrk.al.charter.com listed as the hostname for a computer which had sent quite a bit of email (read SPAM). Now I could be way off base here, but the wierd traffic coupled, with the hostname listed as having a high probibility of being a spam server, was enough for me to ban the mac till the AP is added to the authentication and billing system.

  18. Perfect crime? by cgenman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I read the article I kept thinking "Someone had to own her machine." It's the perfect crime. You take control of another student's machine, and you change a lot of people's grades including your own. Now if you're really good, at this point you've changed the backup grades, so that when they find out and knock you back down from the A the "Criminal" gave you in Hyperdimensional Fold Mathematics for Painters to the B they thought you really got, you will be in the clear with their stamp of approval. And someone else takes the fall, case closed.

    Sadly, she admitted to the crime. One good theory ruined by bumbling criminals not really being criminal masterminds in disguise.

    1. Re:Perfect crime? by cgenman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not impossible, but probably more effort than just passing the class through legit means.

      True. I always thought there was nobility in failing a few classes in college. If you didn't fail a few, you weren't really pushing yourself hard enough. My transcript represented this worldview pretty well.

      But the social aspect of the hack is interesting, even if it isn't useful. The best hack is not one that is never resolved, but one that is resolved neatly, definitively, and completely wrong.

      I knew someone in High School who was a master keygrabber. He would arrange intricate dances around all of the teachers so that he could grab their key ring for an hour and make copies of everything. This ranged from "intimate talks" about problems that didn't exist, to mundane copier issues, to larger things like students getting "caught" doing things they weren't supposed to be doing.

      It was the plausable misdirection that made him a master. Somehow the instructions to change the sprinkler times to 10:30 would be communicated to the gardener as 6:30, and due to this oversite two weeks later all of the people at the homecoming game would freak out and go running for the gardener's shed, where they would cut off the lock, and turn off the sprinklers. There, the typo would be discovered in the instructions, and the case would be closed. Bad typing was to blame. In their rush, nobody noticed that the lock they cut off of the gardener's shed wasn't keyed the same as the lock that originally was on the shed. Nor did they notice that the full set of maintenence keys that were in the gardener's shed was now slightly warm to the touch.

      Never try to "get away with it" by being untracable. "Get away with it" by giving people a plausable explanation for the inconsistincies they see... something believeable, easy, and invisibly incorrect. Never leave a case open.

    2. Re:Perfect crime? by Suhas · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Interesting. I have always held the theory that poor hackers (crackers for the pedantic) sometimes get caught. Good hackers rarely get caught and the best ones are never discovered as they do their deed and disappear into the void.

      However, there is a class who is above all. They do what they want to do, and intricately weave a web so convincing, that there is never, ever a chance that anything can be traced back to them. Like in the case you described, the guy did not have to cover his tracks of having replaced the lock, but made other people do it. This is the key, what can be simply attributed to someone, can never be held against someone else.

  19. Seems a little over the top... by dtjohnson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It wasn't very smart of the UCSB admins to let the grading system access password be reset using common personal information such as ssn and birthdate. Better would have been to send a new password to the users email address or to have him stop by or telephone.

    Also, charging the girl with four felonies seems a little over the top, given the nature of the crime. What she did doesn't seem any different than cheating on a final exam but cheating usually calls for expulsion rather than a felony criminal charge. It isn't as if the girl vandalized the system, sold grades to others, or used the professor's info to open credit card accounts or something. Do they really want to send people like this girl to prison for several years? For what reason?

    1. Re:Seems a little over the top... by ssand · · Score: 2

      Keep in mind two of the felonies are for identity theft. She used confidential information accessed at work to get the passwords.

  20. Re:Carelessness ? by utlemming · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At my University there is a strict honor code. Every Winter semester students must be endorsed, meaning that they have met with an advisor and have committed to abide by the rules of the honor code. There are only about 70 people that can do the endorsements on campus. A failure to get endorsed means that you are no longer a student and you are blocked from registering. For some of my volunteer work, I am the clerk for one of these advisors. One of the things the advisor asked me to do was to enter in endorsements into the computer. We were given a six digit number to sign in, with a ten digit, alpha-numeric, randomly assigned password. The letter with the password did not come with the sign in. Further, the letter stated that the University doesn't even know the password, so it should be kept safe. Advisors were asked to keep the password in strict confidence, and not to disclose them to anyone, under any circumstances. To top it off, the University set it so that there was a narrow time period for the endorsements to be done. So assuming that you managed to find out the user name for you advisor, you would have to brute force the password within time.
    Needless to say, I would argue, at least at my school, they are not careless. In fact, I would argue that they are erring on the side that someone will try to hack the system. But the school also takes computer issues seriously. The computer use policy is very strict, and makes it clear that abuse of a computer, on or off campus is grounds for getting expelled.

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  21. Signature fun by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 5, Funny

    A friend of mine at university used to have "Tempus Fugit" in his email signature file. This pretentiousness could not go unpunished so we changed it to "I wank daily"

    He was sending out emails with it on for a week before a professor wrote to him telling him to change it to something more appropriate.

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  22. Re:Zen by Poeir · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd rather get a degree in Zan, be able to take water forms.

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  23. I feel real sorry for her by t0qer · · Score: 2, Insightful
    With other computing snafus recently making headlines, are universities too careless with their data?"

    Yes i'm careless for having windows made of regular glass instead of tempered. While we're on that note, lets fault me for having a wooden door instead of a steel one, and dirt in my crawlspace someone can tunnel into.

    I think the university did the best it could here. No matter how high/tall/hard you build it, folks are always gonna try and break it. It's just a fact of life.

    I think the only person careless in this whole shebang is the girl that did the grade changing. I doubt this is the most morally devoid thing that has ever happened in this professors class

    I can't recall how many times I had girls that liked me offering to do my homework in school, or how many times I saw someone blatenly fuck another persons report up by checking all the books pertaining to their subject from all the local libraries. I think the worse i've seen is the prefferential treatment some students get, weather it's because of being on the football team, or some other popular school group.

    There's a lot worse that goes on in schools, it's just she got caught.

  24. Re:"Hack"? by Anubis350 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    true.
    You can reset your passwd at my college with SSN and DOB too, the extra securfity being that you have to go to a lab (like the one where I work) and use a specific comp that is always at the admin desk and cannot be used without supervision. When you log in with said info to change your password a big picture of you comes on the screen, if the you on the screen doesnt match the you changing the passwd we boot your sorry ass out of the center.

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  25. I don't think it would have worked. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    She was caught because the university had a feedback system. The professors whose grades were changed were notified when the grades were changed. It didn't matter where she changed the grades from, the change would still have been noticed. Given the way she did it, she would still have been the prime suspect.

    So, she wouldn't have got to keep the forged grades but she might have avoided a criminal record. Maybe.

  26. Re:Carelessness ? by nomadic · · Score: 2

    So if someone wants to stay in school but disobey the honor code, they can either spend a great deal of effort to hack the system...

    Or just lie and say they'll follow the honor code? Why go through all that trouble to safeguard a system that can be circumvented verbally?

  27. Not a Hack ! by Mr+Europe · · Score: 2, Informative

    That is not a Hack but a fraud, felony, break-in ! /. moderators should know the meaning a of a hack.

  28. "Tech savvy?" by raistphrk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The article makes a big deal about how "savvy" this girl is, but seriously - how much knowledge does it require? When you click on the "forgot your password" link, it gives you a prompt with the information it needs to let you change your password. If presented with a website that says "Please enter your SSN and DOB to change your password", it doesn't take a genius to figure out what information to get.

    She did demonstrate some creativity by using her work DB to look up her prof's personal info. However, considering that she did NOTHING to conceal her identity (steal wi-fi, use a proxy, etc), she clearly wasn't a savvy hacker. Smarter than the average user, perhaps, but definitely not a crafty blackhat.

  29. RTFA by blackcoot · · Score: 4, Informative

    i suppose i shouldn't be too surprised that a slashdot editor didn't bother to read the article they're posting, but i'd like to point out that in this case the problem was *not* a university being careless about data. the problem is that a student, by abusing her access to confidential data, was able to gain access to the same shared secrets that were used to authenticate network users. to the university's credit, they had an audit system in place which caught the problem.

    1. Re:RTFA by Adam9 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Being able to reset anyone's password with a birth date and SSN is careless. University passwords typically give you access to e-mail, class registration, bursar statements, private storage space, and many other things. My school requires a photo ID or notarized form to reset a password. UCSB can [and probably will] do more for security. This wasn't some super 1337 cracking going on.

  30. No, SSN isn't supposed to be a secret by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's an ID number. The problem is, your name and DOB don't necessiarly uniquely identify you, there are many documented cases of two people being born with the same name on the same day. Also, names are a very easy thing to confuse, you say one thing, they hear another.

    So SSNs are a good identifier. Their primary, and orignal, purpose is to track earnings for social security purposes. However congress later authorized its use for lots of other identification things (like tax ID).

    Now the problem is that for some reason many instutions treat it as a password or the like, rather than ID. They assume names and birthdates are public knowledge, but for some reason an SSN is secret. No, not really. It's just another identifier, and should be treated as such.

    What needs to happen is places like banks, universities, etc need to stop treating it like it's secret. It should be given no more or less weight than information like address, DOB, full name, etc. It's all just tidbits to uniquely identify you.

    Now part of the problem is, short of DNA, how do you really go about verifying your identity? I mean most proofs of identity rely on other proofs of identity. My passport proves my identity, but to prove I should have it I used things like my driver license, birth certificate, and personal details.

    So you can understand why things like SSNs are used for identity purposes, the problem is too much weight is put in them. It's assumed that they are like some kind of secret password that only the person can know, when really they are just like a DOB, not hard to find out.

    1. Re:No, SSN isn't supposed to be a secret by theonetruekeebler · · Score: 4, Insightful
      SSNs are a good identifier.

      SSNs are a terrible identifier:

      1. They are not universal: They only work for US Citizens and resident aliens who have had lawful employment in the United States.
      2. They are not unique: After somebody dies their number can be recycled. Sometimes they get recycled by accident.
      3. They are still not unique: A person can obtain a new SSN.
      4. There is no referential integrity: A person can write down any nine-digit number they please and claim that it refers to them.
      5. There is no authentication: A person can use your SSN and claim to be you.
      6. They are used outside its scope: SSNs are designed solely to identify the relationship a taxpayer has with the U.S. government.

      Congress later authorized its use for lots of other identification things (like tax ID).

      Congress later authorized its use for one other identification thing (tax ID).

      What needs to happen is places like banks, universities, etc need to stop treating it like it's secret.

      Until SSNs cannot be used in violation of rule 6 and in spite of rule 5, they must treat it as a secret as important as the combination to your safe.

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  31. And where have you been? by fizbin · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Geeks are starting to act like construction workers.
    (Emphasis mine)

    I don't know where you've been, but (no matter what ESR's jargon file says) there's always been a consistent streak of fairly crude sexism in the computer geek world. I'm sure some sociologist has written about it extensively, but it's the kind of thing I see in any large group of (mostly younger) men who are all in competition for alpha male status. (I've watched the sales guys at work, and it's there too)

    Here on slashdot, there's intense competition among the first posts to get something modded up to "funny". I don't know if that's the driver - I'm not a sociologist - but it might have something to do with eliciting this behavior.

    Had this student been male, would there have been a gay sex joke made? Probably, given slashdot, eventually (if nothing else, some GNAA troll would show up), but not in the first 100 posts. (Though actually, the original post's text would work just as well if the student were male...)
    1. Re:And where have you been? by fizbin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "nowadays"? You say that as though you remember a time when it was perfectly acceptable to publically suggest that a woman just go down on a prof if she wants better grades.

      Look, I'm not trying to make you change all occurrences of "he" to "he/she" or some worse neologism, I'm not trying to make sure that all your example sentences have an equal balance of male and female names, and I'm not trying to make sure you hire unqualified employees so that your organization fits some desired overall demographics. I'm just saying - this is crude, and cheap, and symptomatic of a long-standing sexist tradition which exists inside computer geekdom. (and, as others have pointed out, exists elsewhere too)

      To venture into an overstretched analogy, I'm not asking you to wash your hands several dozen times a day and scrub your skin till it bleeds to get the dirt off - I'm just requesting that people not piss on the carpet.

      Also, "dogs" vs "whores"? Do you really believe that these are even vaguely equivalent terms?

    2. Re:And where have you been? by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why is it offensive for a man to make a sexist remark, when women get applauded for calling men dogs?

      Women are whores, plain and simple.


      So you say all women are whores, and then you're surprised when you get called a dog. (Or whatever.)

      Here's a radical idea: how about both sexes lay off the name-calling. You can call this PC if you like; I see it as a matter of simple politeness.

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  32. Some comments by vectorian798 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    First, yes this does show that something is wrong with the security of campuses...I am at UCB and I recall that sometime last year we got an email through an instructional (class) account saying that our Student ID Numbers might have been compromised and that they are looking into it. While there isn't much one can do with SID's, it still kinda got me worried - I mean what if they got our passwords or something, and what if it was the same password as say the registration system (where someone could actually unregister you from Berkeley...).

    I understand that since universities are prominent institutions, they may be the target of many different attacks but on the flip side, since so many students and faculty members are part of the university community, there should be that much more done in terms of security. I sure as hell don't want anything about me compromised (boy am I glad only the grad students' ssn were stolen the other day).

    And also, to those who talk about how easy it is to cheat, it isn't. Almost all CS classes (for example) have a hardcore system that checks your code against everyone else's. Yes, it does take care of changing variable names and whatnot, it checks logic - and if you get caught (which many do) you will get an email telling you who you stole from, how much you stole, how much is deducted, etc. So in short, cheating is not easy.

    There are comparable systems for say papers in humanities' courses, although checking natural language is a lot harder of course - but I believe those systems DO check against a massive database of published papers to see if you plagiarized from outside sources (in addition to checks with other students). And as for exams, it is rare for people to cheat - usually TA's are walking all over - if it was so easy to cheat as some people here say it is, then I am sure many bright college students would figure it out (and the bright TA's and professors would probably respond to it quickly too).

  33. UCSB by Jmechy · · Score: 2, Funny

    University of Computer Skills and Bowhunting.

    1. Re:UCSB by Jmechy · · Score: 2, Funny

      or rather, instead of the typical "University of Casual Sex and Booze" that we are always labeled as, now we can have something to really look up to! "University of Computer Skills and Bullshit"

  34. Re:"Hack"? by blake213 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    So who's the supervisor? And what makes you think he/she will not log in when no one is looking and change a password for someone else?

    Nothing is really secure.

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  35. Re:More than meets the eye... by John+Seminal · · Score: 2, Interesting
    A student cheats by hacking into the school computer system, changes her grade, gets caught, and you're saying it's society's fault?

    What was the reason for cheating? What was the consequence of failing the class? What was the risk of getting caught cheating?

    I don't think we will kill people for cheating, or sentance them to some lifelong hell. But if someone fails, and gets pushed into the lower class, it is hell. Like George Bush said "Congrats, you have two jobs, something uniquely American"

    If society realizes all people are valuable, and can contribute, and does not push a person beyond their means, then being in the "lower" class will not be a punishment.

    There is the second side of the equation. We could just make the punishment so great for cheating to discourage people. That seems to be the trend with all crimes.

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  36. HTTPS == "protection" by Cramer · · Score: 2, Interesting
    • "You have to use an encrypted web browser connection, so if you know that as the geeky https, you have to use an https connection, so that provides the real protection to it," Schmidt said.
    I certainly hope those aren't his exact words. Otherwise, I'd have to say, he's complete f'ing idiot. SSL is not "real protection". At it's very best, it stops people from snooping. And having seen, first hand, how a number of universities manage SSL web servers, I would not be surprised in the least if they were using/allowing 48 bit SSL (which any modern computer can crack in less than a day.) HTTPS vs. HTTP didn't have a damned thing to do with this "hack".

    Maybe the university would like to explain why they are using a person's SSN as a form of identification in explicit violation of the Socal Security Act of 1970. Btw, that's a serious felony that trumps the student's 4 (lame) felonies... just saying my name is [something other than my name] is a felony now? What. The. Fuck.
  37. Public Shares at a MAJOR University by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm not going to say where, but it's a major school. I know that most of the professors do not realize that the network drives they are using like local drives are public by default. Some professors like to use them since they can access those drives anywhere on campus. Any somewhat knowledgeable student, even with a guest login, can browse through them and see everything that the professors think is private. Tests, answer keys, quizzes, family pictures, and yes, even porn. Anything they save on the drive.

    Also note, student shares are also public by default, so you can browse other student's homework if you get stuck on a problem ;)

    It's been like that for YEARS.

  38. Female? by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I have to say, I'm not normally one to make a sexist comment, but was anybody else here just the LEAST bit surprised that this was done by a female? I know I sure was. I mean, kudos to her, but I certainly wasn't expecting a girl to ever do this.

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    1. Re:Female? by mark-t · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Kudos?

      A person breaks the law and you offer kudos?

    2. Re:Female? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      "[W]as anybody else here just the LEAST bit surprised that this was done by a female?"

      No, actually. I've seen women sink to far lower depths in order to compete with other women, than men normally will. Women fight dirty, the ones that fight.

  39. Re:Is SSL breakable? by DarKry · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Go here, SSL is insecure if the key exchange is sniffed. Ettercap does this and ssh1 in real time as it sniffs. Its a fun program to play with. There is an option to just leave it on and let it log all passwords to a file. I was amazed when I first found it and have spent a ton of time in the source figuring out how it works. Cool stuff.

  40. Two idiots... HTTPS and Computers for Idiots.... by Mechcozmo · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "You have to use an encrypted web browser connection, so if you know that as the geeky https, you have to use an https connection, so that provides the real protection to it," Schmidt said.

    So... uh.... wha???

    If she captured packets, then yeah, this idiot might have a valid point but what the hell is this guy talking about otherwise?

    And this isn't hacking. It isn't even cracking. It's "I guessed a freaking password! But didn't know jack crap about anything else so I got busted. Oh well. At least that Schmidt guy will give me 'Computers for Idiots" when he is done with it."

  41. The professors' password, of course... by mrjb · · Score: 4, Funny

    was 'pencil'. That week. Written down on a piece of paper carefully kept in the drawer.

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  42. Re:From a former Uni employee by Xuranova · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ok I was sorta right:
    "How can a school use my Social Security number?

    Publicly-funded schools and those that receive federal funding must comply with the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act in order to retain their funding (FERPA, also known as the "Buckley Amendment," enacted in 1974, 20 USC 1232g). One of FERPA's provisions requires written consent for the release of educational records or personally identifiable information, with some exceptions. The courts have stated that Social Security numbers fall within this provision.

    FERPA applies to state colleges, universities and technical schools that receive federal funding. An argument can be made that if such a school displays students' SSNs on identification cards or distributes class rosters or grades listings containing SSNs, it would be a release of personally identifiable information, violating FERPA. However, many schools and universities have not interpreted the law this way and continue to use SSNs as a student identifier. To succeed in obtaining an alternate number to the SSN, you will probably need to be persistent and cite the law. Social Security numbers may be obtained by colleges and universities for students who have university jobs and/or receive federal financial aid. In Krebs v. Rutgers, the court ruled that SSNs are "educational records" under FERPA (Krebs v. Rutgers, 797 F. Supp. 1246 (D.N.J. 1992)).

    The FERPA text can be found at the web, www.cpsr.org/cpsr/privacy/ssn/ferpa.buckley.html. For the U.S. Department of Education's web site on FERPA, see www.ed.gov/offices/OM/fpco/ferpa/index.html.

    Public schools, colleges and universities that ask for your SSN fall within the provisions of another federal law, the Privacy Act of 1974. This act requires such schools to provide a disclosure statement telling students how the Social Security number is used. If you are required to provide your SSN, be sure to look for the school's disclosure statement. If one is not offered, you may want to file a complaint with the school, citing the Privacy Act.

    When the school is a private institution, your only recourse is to work with the administration to change the policy or at least to let you use an alternate identification number as your student ID."

    You can find other info at :
    http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs10-ssn.htm

    Hope this helps. :)

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  43. Re:Is SSL breakable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    SSL is insecure if the key exchange is sniffed.

    Huh?

    There are two SSL key exchange methods which are mostly used: (1) RSA and (2) ephemeral Diffie Hellman.

    With (1), the client (browser) picks a random 48-byte key k, PKCS1 pads this, then raises it to the server's public exponent (e) mod N and sends that.

    With (2), the client and server do a diffie hellman key exchange with the addition of the server signing his (so that the client can be sure he's talking to the server) with his RSA private key.

    In neither case can the pre-master secret be obtained by a sniffer. In case (1), obtaining the pre-master secret from C = PKCS1( k )^e mod N implies being able to find e'th roots mod N (good luck with that). With the latter, the sniffer has: g^a mod p and g^b mod p, finding g^ab mod p is exactly the diffie hellman problem, good luck with that, too.

  44. Is it only me? by jetmarc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is it only me, or did you as well notice that a hacked computer login is now called "identity theft" as in "credit card fraud" and all the other stuff we use to associate with it?

    1. Re:Is it only me? by R.Caley · · Score: 2
      id you as well notice that a hacked computer login is now called "identity theft"

      She didn't hack the login, she used ID information to impersonate the professors and get the passwords changed.

      Given the level of security, it's perhaps better called ``identity casually picked up off the floor where it was just lying around'', but it's clearly a subclass of identity theft.

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  45. Re:"Hack"? by ameoba · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...and they some how manage to get computer lab monitors that aren't clueless stoners that only have the job because they're workstudy qualified?

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  46. Re:Just for comparison.... by hazem · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Compromising the grade-system destroy's the common-people's faith in "the system", so it has to be punished more.

    Beating up old ladies only destorys faith in the person who did it.

    It's one reason petty counterfeiters are hit so harder than a petty theft. It's not like the few $100's they make will actually lead to inflation. But if enough people get away with it then it leads to a general lack of faith and confidence in the dollar. That's a bad thing, since the whole economy works on the idea that we all pretty much believe a dollar is worth the same thing.

  47. Re:Is SSL breakable? by PGillingwater · · Score: 5, Informative

    The problem is not breaking SSL. The problem is that tools like ettercap and CAIN (for Windows) can perform a Man In the Middle attack, where they use ARP cache poisoning to interpose themselves between the SSL client and SSL server BEFORE the session is established. Then, when the client tries to connect to the server, the MITM will fetch the client information, and use it to establish its own session to the server -- then quickly fake a certificate which it feedback back to the client.

    Admittedly, most browsers will detect this, and throw up a dialogue box -- but due to poor training or understanding of security, 99% of users will simply click away the warning to get their application, and will happily login and access information, while the MITM steals all packets without having to attack the encryption.

    SSL and SSHv1 are both vulnerable to this type of attack. SSHv2 and IPSEC will resist it, and fail the connection, which is correct behaviour.

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  48. Take off the tinfoil... by digitalchinky · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There are a significant number of reasons why electronic fingerprinting of the underlying modulation methods will not work - the same NRZI (or whatever encoding) stream will be modified every single time it passes through another 'box' Basically you will not (necessarily) be getting the actual electrons sent from the target machine, so any analysis is somewhat futile.

    The manufacturer will list common tolerances for each NIC, but it makes no financial sense to database pulse characteristics for the 'millions upon millions' of cards currently in the world.

    RADAR can be fingerprinted very accurately, the key difference is you receive the radiated energy directly from the emitter itself.

    Not to disagree with you fully, there are other methods people are trying, but they are mostly borderline snake oil. Traffic analysis is the only viable solution, think of it like sifting through someones garbage, their friends garbage, and their friends friends garbage, and.... up to three or four association levels, any more and you begin to have issues with storage capacity.

    Fingerprinting is indeed possible, but it will require very close access to the targets machine. Rarely possible without being noticed. Impossible unless you already know where the source is located.

    I can expertly tell you there is no such technology in consumer network cards that will fire off information to 'them' - this can be confirmed with an off the shelf o-scope and some knowledge of coding schemes. Any other method can be detected with software. Protocol analysis.

    No conspiracy.

  49. Felony by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I find it bad, that changing your grade counted as 4 counts felony.

    3 Strikes and you can goto prison for life, its no longer just 3 dangerous felonies see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony

    http://www.facts1.com has some good info on how the law is abused. Then put mandatory sentencing on top, you really get ground up in the system...

    She can loose her right to vote, her DNA kept on file as a criminal, she is now considered a dangerous criminal in the eyes of the law.

    Hey, she could get busted for smoking a joint, or filling out a DMV record incorrect and serve 25 years in prison. Thanks to 3 strike laws.

    But hey, you feel safe now, right?

    1. Re:Felony by tomstdenis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Granted this can be abused let's not forget that tampering with a university computer isn't a "minor" event. It can potentially affect many peoples lives.

      Suppose you decide you really should have that engineering degree but just don't want to study... Now you're in the middle of building a 90-storey office complex and you have about 40% of the knowledge you need ....

      And besides, I had to drudge through college without cheating [which included repeating some classes] why shouldn't she?

      Tom

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    2. Re:Felony by parliboy · · Score: 2, Informative

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_strikes_law

      "Three strikes laws are a category of statutes enacted by state governments in the United States, beginning in the 1990s, to mandate long periods of imprisonment for persons convicted of a felony on three (or more) separate occasions."

      If you're going to use Wikipedia as a source on Three Strikes laws, you could, at least, read the Wikipedia entry on Three Strikes laws.

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    3. Re:Felony by DigitalCrackPipe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Personally, I think the penalties should be pretty harsh for stealing sensetive information from a bank, and using it to gain illegal entry to state-owned systems.

      Social security numbers are so easy to abuse, that society needs to appropriately punish those who are abuse their access to that sensetive information.

    4. Re:Felony by evilviper · · Score: 2, Insightful
      This post is the bigest load of nonsense I've seen in a while.

      I find it bad, that changing your grade counted as 4 counts felony.

      I don't. Walking your dog without obeying the leash law counts as a felony in some places. If you're doing this with 4 dogs, that would be 4 felony counts. I've never heard of someone getting a life sentence for leash-law violations, or any other trivial thing (except drug posessions).

      The flack over the 3-strikes law is pretty ridiculous. It was widely reported that a man got a life sentence due to the 3-strikes law for stealing a slice of pizza. The minor detail that was omitted was that he brutally beat the pizza delivery guy to get that slice of pizza.

      3 Strikes and you can goto prison for life,

      Yes, SEPERATE felonies, not related ones. She's not getting a life sentence, and it's ridiculous to suggest it.

      She can loose her right to vote, her DNA kept on file as a criminal, she is now considered a dangerous criminal in the eyes of the law.

      But she IS a criminal. This is not a mistake or misunderstanding. I don't imagine any rational people having a problem with the fact that she can't vote or own a gun anymore. She can live without those things, as she has shown herself to make very poor (illegal) decisions.

      http://www.facts1.com has some good info on how the law is abused.

      No, they don't. They list the one trivial crime that finally got someone a mandatory sentence, for shock value, and barely mention that the two previous crimes were actually rather serious. I think a Simpsons quote is in order:

      Snake: [raises his hands, and flicks away cigarette] Yo, chill out dude, I'll pay the fine.
      Wiggum: Not this time, you won't; this is your third strike. First you torched that orphanage, then you blew up that bus full of nuns...


      Their allegation that one of those cases was fabricated by the police is a very serious claim, and they provide no evidence to support that. Quality journalism, really...

      But hey, you feel safe now, right?

      I would have voted for Prop 66 myself, if not for the serious crimes it excluded from 3-strikes penalties (like cases of arson, even when someone is injured, or armed burglary). The 3-strikes law may be a bit excessive in some cases, but these are career criminals who continue to comit felonies, and get away with their crimes many times more than they are actually charged with.

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  50. Re:she didn't compromise the system by trick-knee · · Score: 4, Informative
  51. Re:Don't sweat it by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 2, Funny

    Huh? It's emasculating to call someone a person?

    "Chairperson" is worse because it dehumanises the position

    Because we all know that people aren't human.

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  52. Re:"Hack"? by Frogbert · · Score: 5, Funny

    This reminds me of a little experiment I did with my universities ID card system. When you first enrol they ask you to supply, electronically, an image of your face so they can make you an ID card. I thought it was odd that they would ask for an image and not even check to see if it was of you.

    Now I'm white, small and not very built at all so naturally the only real option was for me to submit an image of Mr T. A fortnight passed with anticipation and soon my new ID was ready to be picked up. I had this whole bogus "There must have been some mistake here! This isn't me" speech ready or if I felt funny on the day I had the "This is so me, I pitty the foo who be discriminating against my people" speech. I go to pick up the ID, the lady asks for my student number, name, dob etc. Takes a look at the ID to see the details match and hands it over...

    nothing.

    She didn't even question the fact that there was a huge black man with bulk bling on my ID and it was clearly not me.

    I went home with my new souveneer, resubmitted my real photo and got a replacement ID two weeks later. I still bring the thing out for laughs.

  53. Re:she didn't compromise the system by R.Caley · · Score: 2, Insightful
    there's nothing that the UCSB staff could have done about this

    Er, set up a system where you couldn't change someone's password just by knowing their SSN?

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  54. Re:she didn't compromise the system by DenDave · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Duh.. and a system where you use social security numbers and birth dates as password hints??? c'mon.. this is silly.. But what a dumb chick eh? As if the professors wouldn't notice the change in passwords let alone a grade from F to B+!!! Unless the original exam material is in the same system it serves no purpose to change grades because they always have the original paperwork and class notes. And in addition to all this stupidity she didn;t even consider concealing the IP address..
    This is not a "hack"!!!! She didn't exploit any technological weakness, only stole data giving access to a system.

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  55. Re:she didn't compromise the system by mattspammail · · Score: 5, Funny

    I didn't have any mod points here, so I just logged in to the UCSB grading system and gave you a 100.

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  56. And That's Good? by LighthouseJ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anyone else but me immediately think of the phrase "guilty until proven innocent"?

    It's nice your school is trying to perform steps to prevent cheaters but that's just way too much. A university should be a place where you can live the life you want and the free exchange of ideas with many different types of people from all around the world, not worried if you've sufficiently proven you aren't a cheater to the satisfaction of one of the 70 select individuals.

    1. Re:And That's Good? by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Heh. I was thinking of the hypocrasy of it all. Does making you promise again and again to obey the honor code make you more likely to obey it, or more likely to view your word as something only given a semester at a time?

      Does having a person attest to having witnessed you swear to obey the honor code every semester have any more effect than signing a piece of paper at the beginning of enrollment?

      Does the massive amount of security focused on making sure that you swore the oath to obey the honor code help anything? Seems foolish. Just say, "We have an honor code. this is what it is. Before you enroll for the first time, swear to uphold it. If we ever find out you've broken it, it's your ass. Until then, however, we're going to treat you like you are honorable, and like your word means something, because that's what an honor code is about."

      Just my opinion.

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  57. Not a hack at all, a blantant criminal act by Anthony+Liguori · · Score: 2, Informative

    You have a girl who worked at a company on the side where she had access to sensitive information about professors (and many other individuals). She steals that sensitive information and uses it to reset the password of the professors.

    She then logs in to the grading system and changes her grades.

    And the computer system worked like a charm. Any grade change resulted in a departmental notification. The professor, realizing that he did not make the change and could not log into the account any more, notified the appropriate authorities.

    An investigation occurred and this criminal was discovered. Sounds like an open and shut case to me.

  58. Re:Carelessness ? by telstar · · Score: 2, Insightful
    "Advisors were asked to keep the password in strict confidence, and not to disclose them to anyone, under any circumstances."

    "For some of my volunteer work, I am the clerk for one of these advisors. One of the things the advisor asked me to do was to enter in endorsements into the computer."
    • Yeah, looks like the security system is functioning flawlessly.

    • They don't, by chance, ask advisors to sign the same affirmation to abide by all the rules, do they?

  59. Re:Mr. Schmidt rulz by wk633 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Keep in mind, Schmidt was talking to the media. Ever try to explain something technical, knowing the other person probably doesn't have a clue what you're talking about, but will re-word it anyways to tell thousands of more people?

    That's why that dumb 'geeky https' comment came out.

  60. The beauty of triggers by wandazulu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Without getting into a big discussion of database design, referential integrety, etc., this is the sort of thing I've always used triggers for: updating a row writes another record to another table indicating that it was inserted/updated/deleted.

    I wrote a couple of trading-ish systems that used this when a person placed a trade. Came in very handy when a user called to say that he had lost some major $$$ because we screwed up his order, only to show him in the log that he had in fact placed his order at this time, and then tried to cancel it not a minute later, but a full two hours later, long after the close.

    Yes it can be done in a procedure, write to another table, etc., but what I've always liked about triggers is that they're automatic, somewhat hidden, and easy to forget...

  61. Re:Just for comparison.... by jacquesm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    hehe, that means politicians are pretty much equal to counterfeiters, they are very adept at producing 'a general lack of faith and confidence in the dollar'.

    In fact counterfeiting doesn't even come close to the kind of effect a good elected official can achieve in this respect :)

  62. Re:she didn't compromise the system by Some_Llama · · Score: 2, Funny

    Didn't we learn anything from Wargames when it comes to changing grades?!?!

    The password is kept under the desk on a sheet of paper, look for the one right below the crossed out password.

    And don't change anything more than 1 or 2 grade levels... sheesh.

  63. Re:Is SSL breakable? by generationxyu · · Score: 2, Informative

    SSL and SSHv1 are both vulnerable to this type of attack. SSHv2 and IPSEC will resist it, and fail the connection, which is correct behaviour.

    Ettercap can also detect an SSH connection going out and respond to the client saying that the server only allows SSHv1. The default client behavior is to initiate the connection over SSHv1 (this is wrong). Ettercap then sniffs the key exchange and forwards the connection (over SSHv2 this time) to the remote server. The server thinks you're connecting through SSHv2, from your machine. The only real workaround is to ABSOLUTELY disable client support for SSHv1.

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