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Mandrakesoft Changes Name to Mandriva

joestar writes "Following its recent merger with Conectiva, Mandrakesoft has decided to change its name to 'Mandriva' for two reasons: "1. The recent Mandrakesoft - Conectiva merger calls for a new identity that better represents the combination of two key companies and their global presence. 2. The long-winding trademark lawsuit with Hearst Corporation has reached a point where we decided it is more reasonable for us to move forward.". Mandrake is dead, long life to Mandriva!"

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  1. Well by paranode · · Score: 5, Funny

    I preferred Conedrakesoft, but... whatever...

    1. Re:Well by ImaLamer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Cone drakesoft?

      Well, it is from France!

    2. Re:Well by eln · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Company names should be fairly nonsensical like this. Naming the company something Linux-ish ties them to exclusively Linux-based products. This is a bad idea not because it's Linux, but because it ties the company to a particular type of product, which limits their ability to spread the brand to other products. Note that most of the "Linux only" companies of the dot-com era (the ones that actually survived) changed their names to something more generic.

    3. Re:Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      ...gentoo is a penguin, just thought you should know.

    4. Re:Well by B'Trey · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It was bad enough when your company was named after a duck instead of a penguin.

      A duck? A drake is a male duck, but a mandrake is a poisonous plant that is supposed to have magical powers, probably because it's root looks like a human figure. Didn't you ever play King's Quest?

      Is there something I'm missing or is this duck thing just confusion because of the word "drake" being in the name?

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    5. Re:Well by Agrippa · · Score: 4, Funny

      Cheer up. It could of been renamed to "Manspire".

      .agrippa.

    6. Re:Well by Otter · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I think the distribution's name is actually a reference to Mandrake the Magician, not to the plant. Hence the magic-related imagery that used to surround Mandrake Linux, and is still present in the star logo.

      (I can't believe that strip is still around! Do comic strips ever stop? Does anyone still read Barney Google or Rex Morgan?)

      BTW, a somewhat more timeless mandrake reference is Genesis 30:14.

    7. Re:Well by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That is the dumbest goddamn name I've ever heard. The distro's pretty good, but the name... the name... Why that blood name?

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    8. Re:Well by MissTuxie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      wish I had mod points. Why do most people think naming their company "websomething" or "something something net" is gonna make them sound edgy? Most good sticky names derive from the silliest things. And do not tie you to anything in particular. Look at google and Yahoo, for instance.

    9. Re:Well by MikeMacK · · Score: 3, Funny

      It sounds too much like this and I know that can't be good for business!

    10. Re:Well by kyojin+the+clown · · Score: 2, Informative

      or worse still; 'Mandrill' ahref=http://yahooligans.yahoo.com/content/animals /species/9803.htmlhttp://yahooligans.yahoo.com/con tent/animals/species/9803.html> urgly.

    11. Re:Well by woobieman29 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Movie?

      How about the long-running SNL skit that was actually quite funny? Never saw the movie, as SNL spinoff movies have a pretty low rate of success these days. For every decent one (Wayne's World, Night at the Roxbury) You have loads of crap (Ladies Man, SuperStar, etc) that have "diluted the brand" pretty badly.

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    12. Re:Well by Garg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not to mention the Google factor... a made-up name ensures anyone looking for you will find you without a bunch of irrelevant hits.

      Garg

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    13. Re:Well by sharkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      urpmi --update mass-quantities

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    14. Re:Well by LarsWestergren · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Damn, they actually went ahead and did it. If they had to have a compound name, couldn't they at least have picked Mantiva? On the Mandrake mailing lists, most people seemed to be in favour of that one.

      The only Google reference to Mantiva is an Italian family name. If I associate it with anything in English, its "mantis".

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    15. Re:Well by badmammajamma · · Score: 3, Funny

      Apparently Mangina was taken.

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    16. Re:Well by dgatwood · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I can't help but think of Dilbert's merger of Pathway Electronics with E-Technology Co. to form the Path-E-Tech Cormpany....

      Maybe it's just me.

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    17. Re:Well by kdpickett · · Score: 2, Funny

      Mandriva has kind of a prison rape overtone to it for some reason... Not the best combo of words to lay down...

    18. Re:Well by slimak · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Right, like Motorola:

      Galvin Manufacturing Corporation founder Paul V. Galvin creates the brand name "Motorola" for the company's new car radio, linking "motor" (motorcar, motion) with the suffix "ola" (sound). (source)

      After changing the company name to Motorola in the 1940's, Motorola has only been able to make car radios.

      What about Microsoft? They make hardware and large software products.

      American Airlines flies internationally (but I guess I wouldn't rent a car from them)

      Dunkin Donuts sells coffee

    19. Re:Well by Stevis · · Score: 3, Funny

      Not to mention when they randomly generate a company name by combining astronomical and electrical engineering terms, and get "Uranus-Hertz."

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    20. Re:Well by kai.chan · · Score: 2, Funny

      Any ideas for what the logo should look like?

  2. April Fools? by BJZQ8 · · Score: 3, Funny

    April Fools Day was the 1st...Oh wait, they're serious.

    1. Re:April Fools? by xanthines-R-yummy · · Score: 3, Funny
      It's April 1st there. They're in a different time zone!

      Oh, wait...

  3. Harddriva? by brontus3927 · · Score: 5, Funny

    So will all their *Drake tools now be *Driva tools? It just doesn't have the same ring to it.

    1. Re:Harddriva? by paranode · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't forget to compile the kernel modules for your SoundDriva too.

    2. Re:Harddriva? by rbochan · · Score: 4, Funny

      But they can now refer to their mailing lists as Mandrivel ;o)

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    3. Re:Harddriva? by Amoeba · · Score: 4, Funny
      Don't forget to compile the kernel modules for your SoundDriva too.

      And do you pronounce Mandriva as "Man-drive-ah" or as "Man-dree-vah"? I'm thinking the first one would be best cause, Snap G! I gots my Soundriva up n running in dis mofo.

      Uh.. nevermind.

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    4. Re:Harddriva? by 2old2rockNroll · · Score: 5, Funny

      They have been renamed to the equally girly "Duck Tools"

      So the backup program is now called Duck Tape? Sorry.

  4. Stupidest. Name. Evar. by criscooil · · Score: 2, Funny

    They should have called it "Firebird Linux".

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  5. Great name! by waynegoode · · Score: 5, Funny
    Mandriva

    I'm sure glad they didn't pick some wimpy combination of Mandrake and Conectiva. Now the three top distros at Distrowatch (choose last 3 months) will all have great-sounding, easy-to-pronounce names:

    1. Ubuntu
    2. Mandriva
    3. Mepis
    1. Re:Great name! by Stevyn · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ubuntu, sounds like a baseball strategy.

      Mandriva, sounds like a bunch of guys driving down the road

      Mepis, Me piss?

      At least I can say, "well Gentoo is a species of penguins you ignorant pisser."

    2. Re:Great name! by UrgleHoth · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, on the topic of great sounding distros, How about naming one "Cthulhu" (barring any existing copyright issues). Bonus would be the slogan, "Cthulhu Linux, it'll suck your face off."

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    3. Re:Great name! by ScoLgo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Say what you will. I'm just glad they kept the 'r' in there. Otherwise, their mascot might've been John Madden dressed like Mariah Carey.

      Yipes!!

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  6. Man-driva! by nightsweat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Man...driva, wider than a mile
    I'm crossing you in style, someday

    This is a belated April Fool's joke, right? That's the dumbest name since International Harvester became Navistar.

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  7. Sigh by wigle · · Score: 2

    Another awkwardly named software company.. when will they learn to at least pronounce it first?

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  8. Is that the best they could do? by Moby+Cock · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Mandriva!?!

    That name sucks. Is this the best they could come up with. Conetidrake would've been better.

    When two companies merge and they change the name, that is an opportunity to come up with a really good name. Mandrake was a good name. Connectiva was a bad name. Mandriva is worse.

    *sigh*

    1. Re:Is that the best they could do? by Erwos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While I don't think Connectiva was a _bad_ name, I agree with your sentiment that they really dropped the ball on this one. Mandriva only makes sense in the context of a single, little-known corporate merger. In a couple years, it'll be just a bad name.

      Dragonux, for example, would have been a better choice. It conjures thoughts of both UNIX/Linux and the dragon - fearsome in some cultures, a harbringer of good luck in others. It also plays on Mandrake's old name.

      Mandriva plays on Mandrake's old name, but makes no sense otherwise.

      -Erwos

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    2. Re:Is that the best they could do? by Dun+Malg · · Score: 2, Funny
      I think you found the one worse name they could have gone with.

      Conetidrake?

      Nah there are plenty worse:
      Comandrake (they manage gardeners, right?)
      Manconnect (gay dating service?)
      Condrake (AKA conservative linux)
      Mandiva (Drag queen lounge singer?)
      Mancondrakectiva (some sort of respiratory infection?)

      Not to say they couldn'y have done better than they did...

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  9. They can't be serious! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    What's more ridiculous than this name?

    Maybe Linspire...

    1. Re:They can't be serious! by mikael · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There was a sofa store that was sued for putting up a poster claiming themselves to be "sofa-king-good".

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  10. Sounds like... by mikefoley · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...the name of a tranny stripper..

    Eeesh...

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    1. Re:Sounds like... by Mr+Guy · · Score: 5, Funny

      I read it as "Man dree vuh" and thought it sounded like a small Eastern bloc country occupied by the Soviets after World War II.

      Do you haf za news from Mandreevah!

      Dah! Vee haf crushed da reseestance in Mandreevah! Long live mother Russia!

    2. Re:Sounds like... by Mad_Rain · · Score: 2, Funny

      I read it as "Man dree vuh" and thought it sounded like a small Eastern bloc country occupied by the Soviets after World War II.

      I can't believe no one has said this yet:

      In Soviet Russia, Mandriva renames YOU!

      ew, now I feel all... dirty. Blech.

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  11. Represents WHAT??? by hesiod · · Score: 3, Funny

    > the recent Mandrakesoft - Conectiva merger calls for a new identity that better represents the combination of two key companies and their global presence.

    How does "Mandriva" "represent their Global Presence?" If I had no idea what they made and was asked to guess, it would be some sort of male driving school... Or a singing fruit (mandarin, Diva)... But in no way does Mandriva make me think "Linux, of course!"

    1. Re:Represents WHAT??? by 0racle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, its a terrible name that one does not associate with Linux. They should have chosen a name like Maya, Excel, Trivoli, Firefox, Bryce or Java. You know names that don't just set a product apart but immediatly discribe what it does.

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    2. Re:Represents WHAT??? by 0racle · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Mandrake is supposedly big in France. Conectiva is big in Brazil. Both are at least known of around the world. They combined the two to have a name that has parts of well known names but is not currently tied to any main geographic location then they told the world, or at least the parts that cared. Seems pretty global to me.

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  12. No self-respecting man would install "mandriva" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I mean, come on. This is a name just asking to be picked on. I wonder if I'll someday be able to install mandriva on my performa. That would be awesomea.

    Unless this is a method for hardening its security-- y'know, everyone picks on mandriva, so it has to toughen itself up. Like naming your son Sue or something.

  13. this is totally stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "mandriva" just sounds ridiculous. Nobody is going to remember it. They may as well have called it:

    236176911b0bc7fca6bae20804ba08d9

    which is what I get from

    echo mandriva |md5sum

    and is about as easy to remember.

  14. Re:Names by baudilus · · Score: 5, Funny
    A rose by any other name......
    .....could still not be as stupid sounding as "Mandriva."
  15. Next up.... by cprincipe · · Score: 5, Funny

    Noveluse

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  16. Microsoft is right.... by gmuslera · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... Linux MUST be hard to use, see how difficult will be to pronounce the name of most of their main distributions (SuSE with mixed case? Ubuntu? And now... Mandriva? even is hard to pronounce linux), then installing/using them should be even harder.

  17. Thinking that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny


    Mangina might've been a better name.

  18. It's curable by George+Tirebuyer · · Score: 3, Funny

    I swear I caught this once and a shot of Trobicin fixed it.

  19. Has anyone else noticed ... ? by Chromodromic · · Score: 5, Funny

    That if, say, you're an English speaker unfamiliar with the "i's" long "e" sound, you'll be likely to pronounce it "Man-dreyeva", which sounds like New York slang for "Mandriver", which sounds like gay porn?

    Not that there's anything wrong with that ...

    Well, actually, for a product name, yes there is. That's awful. God. A name only an engineer could love.

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  20. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    RedHat and Astaro Security Linux have merged to become Red Ass Linux

    All welcome our Red Ass overlords!

  21. Avirdnam by Swamii · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know that when your company's sounds better pronounced backwards, you've picked a lousy name.

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  22. Good they renamed it, but will QA follow? by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 3, Funny
    The name change was needed. Indeed, in Luxembourgish, Mandrake litterally means "my trash". And given Mandrake's low reliability the name stuck...

    Just let's hope, that with the new name, they'll also improve their QA...

  23. They're just trying to filter out the females... by 0siris · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can imagine it now.

    Mandriva? Man driva? Woman can drive just as well as men! Sexist company, I'll not be using their distro!

  24. It's better than a few other alternatives, though. by jd · · Score: 4, Funny
    Here are other names they might have used...


    • ConMan (well, depending on the quality of the merge)
    • Drake Connect (useful if anyone wants to set up a Romanized dragon dating servce)
    • IvaSoft (Adult themes get searched more than anything else)
    • Floccinaucinihilipilihication would seem to be appropriate, as would Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis. These would seem to be much more memorable.

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  25. At the risk of redundancy... by CDarklock · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...what a stupid name.

    "Condrake" would have been easy to pronounce. Unfortunately, it has the word "Con" in it, which doesn't sound like a good thing to buy.

    Why didn't they use something completely new like "Foxglove"? It's herbal and has earthy, pagan overtones like Mandrake. It's also got some interesting connotations about being a comfortable covering for Firefox.

    I *like* Foxglove. Somebody should start a Foxglove Linux project. I can immediately picture the logo, the website, and a half dozen decent marketing campaigns. You could talk about it being "foxy", make a pun on the Dr. Seuss classic "Fox in Socks", make "fox guarding the henhouse" references, say it "fits like a glove", run a "Poison your PC" campaign, or (my personal favorite) call it "digital digitalis". It's a *damn* fine name for a Linux distro.

    Too bad nobody ever listens to me. ;)

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  26. Man-drivel? by kpharmer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just don't get this - what kind of a brainstorming session did these guys have?

    mansnivel?
    mansnot?
    manmucus?
    manbile?
    manslurry?
    mandribble?

    mandriven?
    mandriver?
    mandriveme?
    man-drivin' female?

    Just like my old scout, I'll probably just go on calling it what I've always called it- Mandingo.

  27. Hearst lawsuit by bcrowell · · Score: 2, Funny
    More info about the Hearst lawsuit here. Wow, looks to me like a pretty clear case where a big, powerful corporation is using a lawsuit that's utterly without merit in order to screw a small, weak corporation.

    BTW, mandrake is also a natural laxative.

    1. Re:Hearst lawsuit by schon · · Score: 5, Funny

      mandrake is also a natural laxative.

      Maybe, but it's a bitch swallowing all eight CDs.

  28. A Weird Name (was Re:Avirdnam) by manastungare · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now, ain't that "a weird name" really ...

  29. Re:In other news... by Yankel · · Score: 5, Funny
    RedHat and Astaro Security Linux have merged to become Red Ass Linux

    I thought they were going with AssHat Linux.
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  30. Mandriva by PeDRoRist · · Score: 4, Funny

    Womanshouta

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  31. Condrake would've been better by I_Human · · Score: 2, Interesting

    or Drakecon, or something - Mandriva sounds like a cartoon witch harassing Bugs Bunny.

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  32. Re:Organization of the papal conclave by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 2, Insightful
    And another gem, from further down in the same article:

    The reasons for the change are practical: There was no running water in the makeshift rooms the cardinals used in the Apostolic Palace, and there was only one bathroom for every five or six electors, he said.
    ... but there were plenty of servants with brooms and shovels!
  33. Really? by hey! · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I always thought it was a crappy pun on John Donne:


    Go and catch a falling star,
    Get with child a mandrake root,
    Tell me where all past years are,
    Or who cleft the devil's foot,
    Teach me to hear mermaids singing,
    Or to keep off envy's stinging,
    And find
    What wind
    Serves to advance an honest mind.


    Mandrake - root -- unix? Get it? Blech.
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    1. Re:Really? by h4rm0ny · · Score: 4, Funny


      MOD PARENT: +5 Metaphysical.

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  34. what a lousy name by felipe.ledesma · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is the bad thing about inventing company names when you are drunk. I bet they were celebrating the merger, they all got drunk and then "mindstormed" this jewel.

  35. Re:Changing name over and over.. by Wudbaer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Oh, that's nothing. I have a really impressing resume with work experience at four different biotech companies - just that they always were one and the same that kept changing names for some stupid reasons. So it's not just open source.

  36. No no no! by erroneus · · Score: 3, Funny

    That doesn't roll off the tongue.

    MANDIVA! Now that's a better name... or is it?

  37. And furthermore... by PCM2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ol' Man-driva
    Dat Ol' Man-driva
    He mus' know sumpin'
    But don' say nuthin'
    He jes' keeps rollin'
    He keeps on rollin' along

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  38. Connectiva, Mandrake by wowbagger · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Connectiva and Mandrake merge.

    How about Con-Man?

    No, wait, crap. There's already a Con-Man Linux distro.

  39. Should have chosen AndSoft by HalliS · · Score: 2, Interesting

    2 years ago, two telecommunication companies merged here in Iceland.
    The people that were to come up with a new name, wrote the two names up on a blackboard,

    Íslandssími
    og
    Tal
    (which means Íslandssími and Tal )

    ... knowing that they could use neither one as a name for the new company, and that that they had just partnered up with Vodafone.

    So what did they do? They erased the names and were left with og (which means and).
    The new company: Og Vodafone, which basically means And Vodafone



    So let's take Mandrake and Connectiva, take out the two names and let the new company be called: AndSoft!


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  40. Quickly browsing the dictionary... by emil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A little too close for comfort.

    drivel - To slobber; drool. To flow like spittle or saliva. To talk stupidly or childishly.

    trivia - Something of small importance.

  41. How's it spoken (probably) by springMute · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Conectiva" was spoken in portuguese as in "conecteevah" so I think it's probably spoken as "Man-dreevah".

  42. Re:Mandriva? by nickos · · Score: 2, Informative

    It should have been "Mandrake is dead, long live Mandriva!" rather than "Mandrake is dead, long life to Mandriva!". It's a reference to the phrase "The king is dead, long live the king"

  43. No, it's a recursive acronym by marciot · · Score: 4, Funny

    > Distro Renamed to Irritate Various Americans

    Good idea, but you got it slightly wrong. It's a recursive acronym:

    Driva Really Irrates Various Americans.

    -- Marcio

  44. Con is French slang for cunt. by crovira · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I suspect that the joke was a little more low-brow than what you thought.

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  45. Now we know why Mandrake has seemed so lost... by adrenaline_junky · · Score: 4, Funny

    like any Mandriva, they won't stop to ask for directions.

    (sorry)

  46. Cthulhu Linux by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >Bonus would be the slogan, "Cthulhu Linux, it'll suck your face off."

    I like it. I can think of several other excellent marketing themes:
    • Cthulhu Linux - Use it or else.
    • Cthulhu Linux vs. Microsoft - Why settle for the lesser evil?
    • Cthulhu Linux - Bringing the fear of computers back into your life.
    • Cthulhu Linux - Wait 'til you experience our Blue Screen of Death.
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  47. Pronounciation by hyfe · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Sometimes, tt's fun to notice how english centric slashdot is. Given how many Europeans without english as native language there are here, it is kinda surprising at times.

    Mandriva; good pronounication in the scandivian languages, spanish, german, french and spanish.

    Mandrake; good pronounication in english. >p> Majority of posters complain about pronounication :)

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  48. No doubt! by ImaLamer · · Score: 2, Informative

    Really!

    I would have swapped that for The Ladies Man (which wasn't the best). By far the worst is Stuart Smalley, even though I love Al Franken (remember, it's the Al Franken millenium!).

    In reality, Austin Powers is the best disguised SNL spin-off ever. All of the characters that Myers does is from SNL (or tested on SNL) and Dr. Evil is Loren Micheals.

  49. Some names I suggested to Mandrakesoft by Anand_S · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mandrakesoft was obviously intent on combining "Mandrake" with "Connectiva" for the new name, so I came up with the following:

    1. Condrakula
    2. ConMan
    3. MaC OS 10.2