Hoary Hedgehog Ubuntu 5.04 Released

Simon (S2) writes "Ubuntu Linux 5.04, code name 'Hoary Hedgehog', is now available. It offers the following new features: Simple and fast Installation, live CD's for Intel x86, AMD64 and PPC, GNOME 2.10.1, Firefox 1.0.2, first class productivity software, and X.org 6.8.2. Read the announcement and the complete release notes. Quick download links for the i386 architecture: ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent (587MB) and ubuntu-5.04-live-i386.iso.torrent (625MB). Install CD and live CD images for AMD64 and PowerPC computers are also available." Kubuntu is out in a new release as well. Screenshots available of the Kubuntu release. Update: 04/08 14:21 GMT by Z : Made the direct ISO links torrents.

Comments

Torrents man

[ShepyNCL]

Put a link to the torrents as well.

Its only through lawful and fair use of the technology that its not going to be attacked as a p2p mechanism. It was created for distribution of Linux isos, sue it for that.

And it saves the Ubuntu team some bandwidth

Installs:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-amd64.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-install-powerpc.iso.torrent

Live CD:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-amd64.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-i386.iso.torrent
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu -5.04-live-powerpc.iso.torrent

-Shepy

Ubuntu rocks

[koody]

Download the torrent

New stuff include

• Gnome 2.10.1, which makes the desktop a lot faster than before
• X.org
• Simplified update- and package management
• Much faster boot process
• Better laptop support (ie suspending, hibernating, processor frequency scaling)
• Kickstart support for automated largescale installations
• Live CD and Install CD both use the new debian installer infrastructure
• UTF-8 by default
• A program for collecting information about what hardware works and what doesn't
• Kubuntu - complete KDE 3.4 based version of Ubuntu

Stuff people are going to bitch about

• No graphical installer. The current installer is extremely simple and has been streamlined even further in this release. A graphical installer is planned for the next version (Breezy Badger).
• No menu editor installed. One can always edit the files by hand, or install kmenu or something similar for gnome. The official gnome menu editor just didn't finish in time.
• No DivX or MP3 support. These are simple to add though and anyone coming from debian will probably already know of the Marillat repositories. Just look at the instructions in the wiki or use Hoary After-Install helper or another script to do the dirty work for you.

OSDir has published a lot of screenshots of Ubuntu.

Oh and if you are interested to know if your laptop or other piece of hardware is supported, some info can be found in the wiki on the Hardware support-page

Primary mirrors

• United States
• United Kingdom
• Europe

Other mirrors

Australia Canada Croatia Czech Republic France Germany Germany Ireland Italy Lithuania Namibia Netherlands Norway Portugal Portugal South Africa Spain Switzerland United Kingdom United Kingdom United Kingdom United States United States United States

Re:Ubuntu rocks

[idn]

About the media support you can just get VLC from the Ubuntu repositories and that plays pretty much everything.

Graphical installer has been moved to the next release as has some other nice hci improvments like a boot splash

Whacked names

[Anonymous Coward]

"Hoary Hedgehog Ubuntu"

And people wonder why the corporate world is leery of linux.

Re:Whacked names

[Anonymous Coward]

Hoary Hedgehogs are common in South Africa and businesspeople relate very well to them. As well as the elephants and lions on the street corners and the aardvarks and jakkalse. Of course, if it was called Sprinkbok, life would be much better....

Re:Whacked names

[makohill]

If you'd prefer, there's a version number as well. It's 5.04. They are important so other people can take us seriously.

Fun codes names are so that we don't take ourselves too seriously. Much more dangerous IMHO. ;)

Re:Whacked names

[snorklewacker]

> I've got to agree. I've got no idea what it is, and with a name like that, I'm not inclined to investigate.

Hey, I just grabbed a kernel off kernel.org and copied some packages off a redhat box. Got a few from the suse box as well, and I think the same libc works with both, might get a segfault or two. I'm still working on some manpages. I'm calling it "Global Enterprise Management Linux", GEM for short. Pretty slick, eh? That just exudes stable and corporate, no?

The name is whimsy. The distribution is solid. If you can't look past whimsy, you have no understanding of Linux, and should not be planning a Linux strategy.

Re:Whacked names

[radoni]

"Apple Macintosh"

"Microsoft Windows"

now, please tell me if you think those names somehow indicate that the respective products are desktop computer operating systems.

"Ubuntu hoary hedgehog" makes just as much sense as "Apple OSX Tiger" or even "Microsoft Windows Longhorn".

Acutally, I take the names to mean:

Tiger - endangered species in (some) parts of the world
Longhorn - the bull(y) of the market
Hedgehog - secure from predators and perhaps fond of cheese chili dogs and/or blue in colour

Yes, Mr. CEO, we're going with Hoary Hedgehog

[Anonymous Coward]

to base all your company's infrastructure on. Doesn't that just give you the warm fuzzies?

They will even send you FREE CD's

[mathmatt]

Here you can sign up for free CD's.

Remember guys...

[_Hellfire_]

Leave your torrent clients open after you're finished.

Let's not reduce Canonical's servers to smoldering piles of silicon over the next few days :)

Re:Remember guys...

[Minna Kirai]

What if your ISP prohibits you from acting as a server?

Then you are not allowed to install Ubuntu at all.

By default, Ubuntu installs a program called an "X11 server" to start up automatically when the computer boots. This server cannot be removed or deactivated without making the computer almost totally unusable.

Please install!

[Alibloke]

Ubuntu Linux is the best distribution I have ever installed. The guy behind this (I forget his name) has invested a small fortune, and I am sure it will become one of the top distributions very soon.

I emplore all Slashdotters to at least have a brief look at Hoary. It really is the "Mutts nuts"!

DVD Torrent Links

[calc]

There are also DVD torrent links that include all of Ubuntu main.

amd64 - http://torrent.ubuntu.com/dvd/20050407.3/hoary-dvd -amd64.iso.torrent
i386 - http://torrent.ubuntu.com/dvd/20050407.3/hoary-dvd -i386.iso.torrent

KDE and Gnome

[gr8_phk]

I like that the distribution originally picked one desktop (gnome) rather than burden the install media with duplicate packages for both. It's nice that they also now support the other (KDE) with a different CD. Me? I'm a gnome fan and don't want all that extra stuff to download, but it's nice that they support the KDE folks the same way now.

Re:KDE and Gnome

[digidave]

Or just download Ubuntu and 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and you now have a system running KDE identical to the Kubuntu CD. Or install the Kubuntu CD and 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and you get the same results.

the ubuntu and kubuntu packages are meta-packages that install whichever desktop you want.

Gnome 2.10?

[Futaba-chan]

It's interesting that Ubuntu, a binary distro based on slow old Debian, has Gnome stable on 2.10.1, while we bleeding-edge Gentoo users are still on 2.8....

Re:Gnome 2.10?

[Drooling Iguana]

It's harder to make sure that a package is stable when everyone's compiling it from source with different compiler settings.

Distrowatch

[grokster]

I am sure it will become one of the top distributions very soon.

Seen the Distrowatch ranking?

Re:Distrowatch

[Slack3r78]

Not only that, but try changing the dataset to the past 3 months or past month, and you'll see that Ubuntu has been averaging nearly 30% more hits per day than the next closest distribution.

It'd make sense that the 6 month number would be a bit off as Ubuntu is on a twice-a-year release schedule, with the first release having been 6 months ago now. (The version numbering scheme is Ubuntu Year.Month, hence Ubuntu 5.04).

So while Distrowatch may not be the best indicator of a distribution's popularity, it certainly seems to indicate that Canonical and crew are onto to something here.

The Reverend Cleo Says....

[mehaiku]

To create the best Linux brew
We must join the very top two
To prevent any illusion
Of brand name confusion
Call it MandrivaGNU/KUbuntu

Instructions to upgrade warty to hoary

[jhdevos]

http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes

If this goes as easily as most of my past debian upgrades, I will be running Hoary in about 30 minutes :-)

Jan

Re:WTF?

[speel3k]

beacause it just works simple as that .. you plug in a thumb drive it mounts you put in a music cd it works yea i know this is probably easy to set up your self and also no more dependency hell lol and as i said again it just works

the big deal is

[jbellis]

it's an open (as opposed to several commercial debian derivatives) debian-based distro that isn't 3 years out of date.

lots of people love debian but wish stable weren't so old and testing were more... stable. :)

Re:WTF?

[dont_think_twice]

Actually, Ubuntu was actually a scheme by the Gentoo user community to get rid of the fanboys. We figured that if we could create a distro that had an even more obscure name than Gentoo, all of the fanboys would flock to it so that they could stay l33t. It seems to have worked perfectly.

Re:Ubuntu on Distrowatch Hit List

[elasticwings]

I switched to Ubuntu from Fedora Core 3 a few weeks ago. To be honest, as a desktop, Ubuntu has Fedora beat hands down for me. It runs hella faster on newer hardware. It's setup to work with Apt/Synaptic by default. The Gnome desktop is much newer than the one they're using with Fedora Core 3. I know they have the new version of Gnome in FC4 Test 1, but it has lots of problems. Ubuntu works and works well. Oh and the apt servers are alot faster than the ones for Fedora. In general, I've had alot of good luck with this distro. As a matter of fact, I installed it on a newly aquired laptop last night. Once again, it works beautifully.

Gratis Shipped CDs

[makohill]

Like last time, we're also sending out free pressed CDs in the mail (gratis CDs, gratis shipping). If you want them, you can sign up for them at http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org

Re:WTF?

[finkployd]

I figured it was all total hype until I started installing it to see what it was like. When I found that it kicked the collective asses of every other distribution I have ever tried (Redhat, Slackware, Debian, Mandrake, SuSE, Turbo, Storm, Gentoo, and others) in terms of hardware detection and configuration, I figured out what the fuss was about. Otherwise it is ok, nothing particularly special, but damn can it detect and correctly configure some obscure hardware.

For that reason alone, I recommend it to newbies.

Finkployd

Re:Hoary Hedgewhat Ubun-who?

[iGN97]

It's amazing that your post even ended up on slashdot.org and not website.com.

Re:Real question

[_Hellfire_]

It's fairly straightforward:

1) Grab a root console (Applications->System Tools->Root Console) and type the password for the first unprivilidged account on your system.

2) vi /etc/apt/sources.list

3) Replace the lines that are marked thusly:

deb http://ubuntu.../ warty main

and type this instead:

deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted

deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted

(ignore Slashdot's anti-goatse domain display feature)

Note: this may be as simple as replacing every instance of warty with hoary - but I'm not sure.

3) Save the file (ie esc :wq [enter])

4) type apt-get update

5) type apt-get dist-upgrade

6) Wait for everything to download, cross your fingers nothing breaks and enjoy.

disclaimer: it's late at night. I may have missed something...

Re:WTF?

[MrP-(at work)]

i'm a windows user (dont hurt me), and ive tried tons of linux distros over the past 10 years. ubuntu is the ONLY one that "just works".. everything of mine worked, it felt fast and clean. No spending hours trying to get it to work with my display, or trying to navigate the thousands of directories with multiple versions of applications that all do the same thing. Every distro ive tried just seemed so bloated and confusing, there was so much stuff i could never find what I wanted. But Ubuntu loaded right up, everything worked, it was super fast (i always wondered how people could use linux, it always seemed slower than a bloated windows install..but not ubuntu), i also like how theres only 1 gui to choose from. It's just fast/clean, and i may eventually switch to it

Re:A desktop candidate?

[pizpot]

I installed Ubuntu (Hoary) on my main computer this weekend. It is my first attempt at linux in over a year. BTW, I was a HPUX sys admin for an engineering office for 5 years and so have lots of unix know how...

My PC was dual booting win98 2nd edition, and winxp sp2. I have two hardrives: a 30 GB with C: (fat32) and D: (fat32), and a 120 GB with G: (fat32), H: (fat32), and I: (60GB). Win98 was installed to C:, and winxp to D:, but I had xp's apps installed also to C: and I:.

I had installed xp, from within 98, and said not to upgrade, and allow me to specifiy where, so I had a boot menu saying 1) win98 or 2) winxp.

First, I went into xp control panel, admin utilities, computer stuff, hardrives and deleted the H: partition so that it became Free Space. (very important step, if you want xp to be happy, as opposed to just letting linux delete the partition)

Then I put the Ubuntu cd in, and rebooted to my bios and told it to boot from my cd drive. It did, and I went through the install routine. It saw my disks, and the free space, and I created my required linux partitions. (1GB logical swap space at end of the free space, and a primary linux ext2 filesystem with the rest of the free space). It then finished in about 15 mins and rebooted into Ubuntu.

Everything worked perfect. I was on the net, my Pentax camera icon appeared when I hot-plugged it into USB. I had a Hercules GF3 nvidia vid card, so of course it did not do 3D yet, but it was running 2D nicely. I had to run two commands and it configured itself to do 3D. I tested it with id Software's free huge game Wolfenstien Enemy Territory 2.60, and it was better than in Winxp. The frame rate seems higher, and my ping is way better. Next I tried the Gaim messenger program, that Ubuntu installed. I typed in my ICQ number and password, and *ding* there were my buddies both on and offline. Next I tried Evolution, nice but to slow to load, so: www.google.com-->"ubunto thunderbird" and then downloaded a .deb file and installed it from the command line, and its really nice.

For me, I am done. I was lucky to be in a state where my main game was available on linux, so I went for it, and boy am I happy. Sure my 5 year old will still boot to winxp for his 50 games, and my wife for her game, but if I happen to get wine running, then that will stop.

Overall, here are my ending thoughts:

- I love it - I used Symantic Package manager to auto upgrade everything and then wolf stopped working. - I gotta learn how to back it all up so I can experiment - I'm converted. - It rox - Gnome is nice. I'll try KDE too, but I did a year ago, and not see any reason to worry, its not like the debian packages aren't smart enough to install dependant stuff if required. ie) I installed a cd burn program, and it needed KDE resourses, and they were installed automatically. - I tried debian last week, and could not get it to gui no matter what install options I picked, but am glad that forced me into Ubuntu. - Mepis and Kubuntu sound cool too... - I think people who complain about GIMP are too used to Windows. It behaves like old Unix Motif/CDE programs.

GRIN! This is so ready for the desktop. I'm doing grampa, and gushing about it to my engineering, and gaming friends and they are all like: "oh good, show me how, I can't stand trying to run pirated windows these days"

:-)

Re:WTF?

[Oliver Aaltonen]

If this was truly a ploy by the Gentoo user community got rid of all the fanboys, then who's left? ;)

Re:Minimum requirements?

[jrasmussen0]

Ubuntu can do this but you should use XFCE desktop or another stripped down desktop for that little memory.

If you install Ubuntu (Hoary or Warthog), then hit 'Esc' after the reboot to choose to start up in 'safe mode' (no gnome startup). Then log in as user and run 'aptitude'. When it asks you to run as root just type in the user password, there is no root password. Type '/' and search for 'xfce' and press '+' to select, then 'g' to go and download and install. The quit aptitude and 'sudo reboot' (which may ask for the user password).

At the graphical login screen. Click on the 'Session' option and choose XFCE.

Re:their codenames are the best!

[beattie]

How long until we get "Wascaly Wabbit"?

DVD Install Images

[EAVY]

Ubuntu 5.04 now provides images for installation from DVD. The DVD install image includes all supported packages, including those Not installed by default.

Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog) Install/live DVD

The combined install/live DVD allows you either to install Ubuntu permanently on a computer, or (by entering 'live' at the boot prompt) to try Ubuntu without changing your computer at all. There are three images available, each for a different type of computer:

Install/live DVD for AMD64 computers (BitTorrent download)

Install/live DVD for Intel x86 computers (BitTorrent download)

Install/live DVD for PowerPC computers (BitTorrent download)

Re:I may switch from Gentoo

[JerkBoB]

Ubuntu is debian and uses apt. You'll be right back in dependency hell.

... Guh?

I'm flabbergasted. You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Look, I'm not going to argue about source-based vs. binary-based distros or Ubuntu vs. MEPIS or whatever. I have no idea what you are talking about, man!

Maybe you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how Debian-based distros works. They have this cool concept of "Package Management." It's been around for a while, you should ask Google about it (or maybe you prefer AltaVista or Hotspot). The general idea is that you ask the package manager to get a package, and the package manager gets the package and all its dependencies! WOW!

Maybe you tried a Debian-based distro once, and hadn't taken time to understand how to use it. You were in the pre-apt RPM mindset of looking around for a .rpm, downloading it, and finding that you had to go find that RPM's dependencies by hand. I dunno... I'm trying to give you some credit here for not being a total idiot/troll.

You want to argue about source-based vs. package-based, or crazy optimizer flags for SUP3R-1337 FAST binaries (that load .10ms faster), fine. But saying that using Ubuntu will put you in dependency hell is just silly and stupid.

Re:They will even send you FREE CD's

[bcrowell]

And here you can donate to help offset the cost of shipping you the free CD's.