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Hoary Hedgehog Ubuntu 5.04 Released
Simon (S2) writes "Ubuntu
Linux 5.04, code name 'Hoary Hedgehog', is now available. It offers the
following new features: Simple and fast Installation, live CD's for Intel x86, AMD64 and PPC, GNOME 2.10.1, Firefox 1.0.2, first class productivity software, and X.org 6.8.2. Read the announcement and the complete release notes. Quick download links for the i386 architecture: ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent (587MB) and ubuntu-5.04-live-i386.iso.torrent (625MB). Install CD and live CD images for AMD64 and PowerPC computers are also available." Kubuntu is out in a new release as well. Screenshots available of the Kubuntu release. Update: 04/08 14:21 GMT by Z : Made the direct ISO links torrents.
Put a link to the torrents as well.
u -5.04-install-amd64.iso.torrent u -5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent u -5.04-install-powerpc.iso.torrent
u -5.04-live-amd64.iso.torrent u -5.04-live-i386.iso.torrent u -5.04-live-powerpc.iso.torrent
Its only through lawful and fair use of the technology that its not going to be attacked as a p2p mechanism. It was created for distribution of Linux isos, sue it for that.
And it saves the Ubuntu team some bandwidth
Installs:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubunt
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubunt
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubunt
Live CD:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubunt
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubunt
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubunt
-Shepy
Download the torrent
New stuff include
Stuff people are going to bitch about
OSDir has published a lot of screenshots of Ubuntu.
Oh and if you are interested to know if your laptop or other piece of hardware is supported, some info can be found in the wiki on the Hardware support-page
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And people wonder why the corporate world is leery of linux.
Here are the Torrents on the US mirror:
Install CD:
i386 torrent
amd64 torrent
powerpc torrent
Live CD:
i386 torrent
amd64 torrent
powerpc torrent
I just don't trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die.
to base all your company's infrastructure on. Doesn't that just give you the warm fuzzies?
Here you can sign up for free CD's.
Leave your torrent clients open after you're finished.
:)
Let's not reduce Canonical's servers to smoldering piles of silicon over the next few days
"And then I visited Wikipedia
With a few friends, I restarted Nattor, the little CD vendor. We're not ready ready yet, but I had to translate de Ubuntu announcement in french, so there you go :)
Ubuntu Linux is the best distribution I have ever installed. The guy behind this (I forget his name) has invested a small fortune, and I am sure it will become one of the top distributions very soon.
I emplore all Slashdotters to at least have a brief look at Hoary. It really is the "Mutts nuts"!
Kubuntu 5.04 | Ubuntu 5.04
There are also DVD torrent links that include all of Ubuntu main.
d -amd64.iso.torrent d -i386.iso.torrent
amd64 - http://torrent.ubuntu.com/dvd/20050407.3/hoary-dv
i386 - http://torrent.ubuntu.com/dvd/20050407.3/hoary-dv
I like that the distribution originally picked one desktop (gnome) rather than burden the install media with duplicate packages for both. It's nice that they also now support the other (KDE) with a different CD. Me? I'm a gnome fan and don't want all that extra stuff to download, but it's nice that they support the KDE folks the same way now.
It's interesting that Ubuntu, a binary distro based on slow old Debian, has Gnome stable on 2.10.1, while we bleeding-edge Gentoo users are still on 2.8....
How do I upgrade my current warty install?
Thanks alot whoever posted this article. Now the ubuntu website is being slashdotted. I'm now declaring you responsible for my apt-get update moving slow as molasses. Thanks alot buddy. I really appreciate it... NOT!
OK, I'm not trying to troll here but, can someone please explain to me what the sudden infatuation with Ubuntu is? I tried Ubuntu. It was OK. Nothing stupendous but OK. It wasn't so good as to make me want to switch from any other distro.
Why the hell is everyone so totally infatuated with Ubuntu. It seems to have eclipsed Gentoo, so far as fan boys and that just seems ridiculous.
I will be doing my eveluation too, but I will go with a somewhat biased mind I have to admit. If the Kubuntu folks have not trimmed down: for KDE - sane defaults and for GNOME - making it easier to do common desktop stuff, this will be just another distro.
I wonder whether they will be considering autopackage ahref=http://www.autopackage.org/http://www.autopa ckage.org/>. Anyone know about this?
Seen the Distrowatch ranking?
Hey, here are 2 Kubuntu torrents too... Kubuntu-i386 Install: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/kubuntu-5 .04-install-i386.iso.torrent
Kubuntu-Amd64 Install: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/kubuntu-5 .04-install-amd64.iso.torrent
I'm getting to old for all this. I can even grok the names anymore. What happened to the days of "Visi-Calc" (a visual calculator) or "Draw" or "Write" or... I'm sorry. I'm approaching 40. :(
I have been using X.org on Fedora for what seems like half a year now. I haven't noticed any difference in performance. The only thing that i have noticed is that it is less buggy, has a few more features, and the names of various configuration files and directories are different, though the formats of these files and directories are the same.
Considering that it started out as a simple fork of XFree86, you shouldn't expect a big difference between the two.
To create the best Linux brew
We must join the very top two
To prevent any illusion
Of brand name confusion
Call it MandrivaGNU/KUbuntu
http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes
:-)
If this goes as easily as most of my past debian upgrades, I will be running Hoary in about 30 minutes
Jan
it's an open (as opposed to several commercial debian derivatives) debian-based distro that isn't 3 years out of date.
:)
lots of people love debian but wish stable weren't so old and testing were more... stable.
How is that last one pronounced?
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
It was created for distribution of Linux isos, sue it for that.
Only SCO would sue it for that :-)
I switched to Ubuntu from Fedora Core 3 a few weeks ago. To be honest, as a desktop, Ubuntu has Fedora beat hands down for me. It runs hella faster on newer hardware. It's setup to work with Apt/Synaptic by default. The Gnome desktop is much newer than the one they're using with Fedora Core 3. I know they have the new version of Gnome in FC4 Test 1, but it has lots of problems. Ubuntu works and works well. Oh and the apt servers are alot faster than the ones for Fedora. In general, I've had alot of good luck with this distro. As a matter of fact, I installed it on a newly aquired laptop last night. Once again, it works beautifully.
Like last time, we're also sending out free pressed CDs in the mail (gratis CDs, gratis shipping). If you want them, you can sign up for them at http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org
The other posters are correct in changing the apt sources. There are a few post-install steps http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes504
My upgrade didn't include ubuntu-desktop, so I had to add it via apt manually (synaptic was acting weird). When I was done with that, I rebooted & nautilus wouldn't show me my homedir, and I lost all my icons (1 document) on the desktop. One more reboot and everything looks good.
If anyone wants to tell me that best python IDE in GNOME I'd be grateful.
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Don't you just *love* Ubuntu's codenames?
Last release: Warty Warthog
This release: Hoary Hedgehog
Next release: Breezy Badger
hahaha, they're just so... different!
Enjoy an e-piphany
A few months ago my psu went out.. it caused my hard drives to keep shutting off.. and for a few days i needed an OS to use while i waited for my new psu to ship. I used Ubuntu Live.. what a life saver, best distro ive ever used
But anyway, my drives were disconnected and it didnt give any errors so i assume it doesnt write anything
I also tried like hell to crash it since it was all in memory, i tried loading everything i could think of, did tons of complex tasks, etc, i couldnt crash the damn thing! =P
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There is a server installation option. It will not install any services in any default install. But then again, when I build a server, I want to start with a blank slate and install what I want anyway. :)
I've heard that VectorLinux is good for older hardare, and DamnSmallLinux (which fits on one of those miniature "business card" CDs) comes with Firefox now - might want to give those a try :)
While there have been many LiveCD distros over the past 2 years spring to life Ubuntu is ok, and it does work, but then so does slax, Knoppix, MDK Move and on and on. My personal fave is Mepis but nobody here talks about it. It works, always has, gives you the run-from-cd option along with a gui based install (hint hint ubuntu). I prefer KDE over gnome, it stems from a problem with DeadRat 5, gnome crashed way too often. I have a long memory... :)
Cobind is nice too and is DeadRat/Fedora based.
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing. Emo Philips
No, it does not. I suspect he had a problem with our first prerelease install CD, not with the Live CD that was seperate from his Live CD issues. In any case, the Live CD code is all new now and no, it will not write anything to disk or torch your MBR.
Ubuntu can do this but you should use XFCE desktop or another stripped down desktop for that little memory.
If you install Ubuntu (Hoary or Warthog), then hit 'Esc' after the reboot to choose to start up in 'safe mode' (no gnome startup). Then log in as user and run 'aptitude'. When it asks you to run as root just type in the user password, there is no root password. Type '/' and search for 'xfce' and press '+' to select, then 'g' to go and download and install. The quit aptitude and 'sudo reboot' (which may ask for the user password).
At the graphical login screen. Click on the 'Session' option and choose XFCE.
Dude, Ubuntu first appeared just slightly over 6 months ago, think you're a little confused there.
fucking dumb name.
I love how this was modded as "Insightful".
I persoanally think Hoary Hedgehog is a good name. One of the problems Linux faces in getting Joe Public to start using it is that the public needs to really engage with the product. Distos with constantly incrimenting version numbers must come across as cold and "tech-oriented". Hoary Hedgehog, however, shows Linux's more familiar side.
Roll on the Breezy Badger!
Ubuntu 5.04 now provides images for installation from DVD. The DVD install image includes all supported packages, including those Not installed by default.
Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog) Install/live DVD
The combined install/live DVD allows you either to install Ubuntu permanently on a computer, or (by entering 'live' at the boot prompt) to try Ubuntu without changing your computer at all. There are three images available, each for a different type of computer:
Install/live DVD for AMD64 computers (BitTorrent download)
Install/live DVD for Intel x86 computers (BitTorrent download)
Install/live DVD for PowerPC computers (BitTorrent download)
-- Eavy (: Linux Is Not UniX
I ordered ten knoppix CD sets the first time around. Tried it on three machines that knoppix works fine on, and it failed on all three of them. In fact the openstep livecd boots on more machines I've tried it on than knoppix has. I had to throw out the CD sets because as the local computer nerd, if I give them to people, they will come and ask me why their computer isn't working, and I don't want to get stuck supporting some Linux I can't even run! It didn't even run in a vmware virtual machine, how hard is that?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Yea, once sarge is finally released...
./
Anyways, in the meantime, here's xorg compiled for sarge:
deb http://www.acm.rpi.edu/~dilinger/xorg/
I tried Ubuntu's last release some 6 months ago on my aging Dell Inspiron 8200. It didn't install cleanly. Anyone know if it will now?
Other issues I had as a linux noob (I've used it at work, just never installed it) included annoyances like lack of support for mp3's and java.
Excuse me, but if you want a distro to become mainstream and you ship it with a music player, it shouldn't just vomit out "mp3 is not a recognized format" - it should tell you exactly how to make it work and where to find out the background on why it doesn't work out of the box.
Making mp3s was simple compared to getting java and Eclipse installed, but I'd rather buy a Mac than have to go through that again.
I still have that partition free though...
Information: "I want to be anthropomorphized"
It's not that it's trying to do anything "better" -- it does everything well, and doesn't screw anything up. It "just works", and because it's debian under the hood, it's easy to add or change anything to be the way you want it.
If you're looking for something cutting-edge, whiz-bang -- something you'll have fun playing with and then install something over in a month or two, look elsewhere.
If you need a stable desktop that you can transition smoothly, Ubuntu is for you.
I've been using Ubuntu/x86_64 with the Kubuntu KDE distribution for the past four weeks. It's nice to have a decent installer and a system that works almost out of the box (past configuring the system for small personal preferences).
/boot on a raid1 device. On every bootup. Perhaps Ubuntu could support grub+raid1+root+boot in the future; see here for details. I was unsuccessful at getting LILO to boot, too. Maybe it's a hardware thing [1].
As much as I like this, there are other things that make it difficult for me to use it:
1. Wacom is not supported out of the box, and the Wacom driver module packages are incomplete (the build rules don't copy anything but wacom.ko). It'd be great to be able to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu and have the Wacom tablet work as advertised on the Linux-Wacom Driver Project page.
2. I got errors booting Grub with / and
3. On Ubuntu/x86-64 win32 video codecs run only under a chroot'd 32-bit environment. Ubuntu could make this task easier/more seamless (for example, I want to see videos with Kaffeine or Xine, but AIUI they have to be run in a chroot environment.. that's not very seamless..)
4. It'd be great to have the installer automatically install the commercial NVidia drivers. They're currently an optional package.
5. Also great would be the inclusion of Jeff Garzik's SATA thermal sensor patches for libATA, available here.
With this patch, hddtemp works on SATA drives.
6. Ubuntu doesn't seem to have installation-time setup of the "sensors" package (i.e., run sensors-detect and install the modules as needed automatically).
7. Missing packages. Kubuntu was missing (last I checked a few days ago) the Python bindings for KDE. For that matter, there are packages that don't exist for x86_64 systems, like Psyco, Flash and the Adobe Reader.
I've since switched to Alioth's Debian/x86_64, but would happily switch back when Kubuntu-x86_64 matures, as Alioth does not seem to have 64-bit KDE 3.4.0 packages (could be wrong though).
references:
1. My motherboard is a MSI NEO K8T FIS2R with an Athlon64/3200+.
- Roey
As a MEPIS user, I'm wondering if anyone has any factual reasons why I should look at Ubuntu?
It seems to me that MEPIS has all the same advantages as Ubuntu--bootable live CD, ten minute install, Debian based, stuff just works, up to date.
The main reason I like MEPIS is that everything from vanilla debian-unstable just works, because MEPIS is really debian-unstable with a custom kernel and better hardware detection. I've read that Ubuntu isn't quite the same--it's further from Debian, hence you can't just add the Debian repositories and expect everything to work. True/False?
GCHQ Quantum Insert installed. If only our tongues were made of glass, how much more careful we would be when we speak
>>If you need a stable desktop that you can transition smoothly, Ubuntu is for you.
What other desktop oriented distributions have you tried? -- I tried Mandrake, Ark, Mepis, Xandros, Lycoris, SuSE, Fedora, Libranet and about 3-4 or so others and I have to say while I would rank Ubuntu higher than Fedora as a distribution that "just works", I would rank it lower than all the ones mentioned above.
As for it being easy to add or change anything, deb offers no real advantages to rpm ever since apt4rpm and there are more than a few debian based distributions I prefer to Ubuntu, like Mepis, Libranet or Xandros.
My favorite at the moment is ArkLinux - it is several light years ahead of Ubuntu if you're looking for something that "just works".
I'm running Hoary RC2 right now, finally got it all installed and working properly last night. Unlike what some people have said, it doesn't properly configure and install everything first boot EVERY time. The audigy drivers were installed correctly, yet no sound was coming out of my speakers. It took some hunting, but I later found out that my Analog/Digital out jack was turned off in alsamixer. Turning that on fixed the problem. Secondly, while the nvidia drivers are available, at least with my GeForce 6800, they aren't loaded and configured properly on initial boot. You only find out when you try to log into Gnome only to find your system freezes up. Nothing an apt-get install nvidia-glx wouldn't fix, though. Ohter thank those two problems Ubuntu seems to be a fairly stable distro. I came over to it from Fedora and must say that I like it a lot more. Using synaptic to manage packages beats downloading rpms and solving dependency problems with Fedora. Though, yum wasn't too bad.
The XFCE developers keep their own Debian package repository for the latest version (4.2). Instructions for XFCE and Debian on their website.
I'm flabbergasted. You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Look, I'm not going to argue about source-based vs. binary-based distros or Ubuntu vs. MEPIS or whatever. I have no idea what you are talking about, man!
Maybe you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how Debian-based distros works. They have this cool concept of "Package Management." It's been around for a while, you should ask Google about it (or maybe you prefer AltaVista or Hotspot). The general idea is that you ask the package manager to get a package, and the package manager gets the package and all its dependencies! WOW!
Maybe you tried a Debian-based distro once, and hadn't taken time to understand how to use it. You were in the pre-apt RPM mindset of looking around for a
You want to argue about source-based vs. package-based, or crazy optimizer flags for SUP3R-1337 FAST binaries (that load
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Ubuntu, in an attempt to be totally free, can't do things like play DVDs right "out of the box," or isn't configured to list or mount Windows partitions in Gnome. Even if you are a total beginner, spending half an hour at the Unofficial Ubuntu Startup Guiide will get you up and running and totally happy with your new distro.
The Unoffical Startup Guide should be required reading for any Ubuntu user. Heck, EVERY Distro should have a site just like it -- the Linux world would be a better place for it. And no, I have nothing to do with it other than being a grateful reader...
I always thought it was one cd a la knoppix. What is the hurdle of not being able to have both on the same cd?
And I checked the cd's they mail to you are the install cds. I thought the bonus of handing these out would be to be able to tell people 'don't worry, won't install anything, just try it out!' And then if they wanted to do so there would be an install option after checking it out.
Any plans to unify the live and install cd?
I'm going to upgrade my Sarge server to Hoary this weekend. I love Debian but testing breaks too much and stable is too old. The basic idea of Ubuntu is that they support the most popular / important packages from Debian, but still let you install almost all of the other Debian packages (via universe). For me, the packages I needed from universe were stuff like Gallery and SpamAssassin which I don't consider critical for security updates.
The advantage is that the software is recent but reasonably well-tested, will have security updates for the core (non-universe) packages, and can be upgraded in six months to the next version. It solves the Debian problem of choosing between old stable or broken testing / unstable. It's also completely free and has a good social contract along the lines of Debian. The development process seems reasonably open and the community is pretty strong, especially considering the young age of the distro.
I used Gentoo for a year after debian, and have now switched to Ubuntu.
/etc/portage/package.keywords )
/usr/sbin/dispatch-conf
I got bored. I could no longer be bothered to keep recompiling. It is just too much effort. And the worst thing is keeping up if you just wait a few things from ~x86. ( constantly messing with adding deps to
sudo emerge sync
sudo emerge --update --deep --verbose --ask world
sudo emerge --verbose --ask depclean
sudo revdep-rebuild --verbose --ask
sudo
Does get fucking nightmarish after a while. Sorry.
I hope things have progressed since then.
Also, AFAIK, you can only install multiple library versions if the ebuild is designed for that (slots and all that). The vast majority aren't. Guess what, you can do the same with debian - you just include the version number in the name of the package. eg see libdb in ubuntu or debian which has multiple versions.
I will grant you that making an ebuild is easier than making a deb. But the average quality *is* lower - don't try telling me you've never been faced with an utterly broken ebuild in x86.
And no, the issue you have is not "dependency hell "- this was common parlance for having to go round manually picking up rpms. I'd call it apt breakage - where the archive is in an inconstent state. This does happen with Gentoo as well - please don't pretend that emerge update has worked flawlessly for you every single time. And to be honest, I expect you were using an external apt-source.