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Hoary Hedgehog Ubuntu 5.04 Released
Simon (S2) writes "Ubuntu
Linux 5.04, code name 'Hoary Hedgehog', is now available. It offers the
following new features: Simple and fast Installation, live CD's for Intel x86, AMD64 and PPC, GNOME 2.10.1, Firefox 1.0.2, first class productivity software, and X.org 6.8.2. Read the announcement and the complete release notes. Quick download links for the i386 architecture: ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent (587MB) and ubuntu-5.04-live-i386.iso.torrent (625MB). Install CD and live CD images for AMD64 and PowerPC computers are also available." Kubuntu is out in a new release as well. Screenshots available of the Kubuntu release. Update: 04/08 14:21 GMT by Z : Made the direct ISO links torrents.
Put a link to the torrents as well.
u -5.04-install-amd64.iso.torrent u -5.04-install-i386.iso.torrent u -5.04-install-powerpc.iso.torrent
u -5.04-live-amd64.iso.torrent u -5.04-live-i386.iso.torrent u -5.04-live-powerpc.iso.torrent
Its only through lawful and fair use of the technology that its not going to be attacked as a p2p mechanism. It was created for distribution of Linux isos, sue it for that.
And it saves the Ubuntu team some bandwidth
Installs:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubunt
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubunt
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubunt
Live CD:
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubunt
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubunt
http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubunt
-Shepy
Download the torrent
New stuff include
Stuff people are going to bitch about
OSDir has published a lot of screenshots of Ubuntu.
Oh and if you are interested to know if your laptop or other piece of hardware is supported, some info can be found in the wiki on the Hardware support-page
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And people wonder why the corporate world is leery of linux.
Here are the Torrents on the US mirror:
Install CD:
i386 torrent
amd64 torrent
powerpc torrent
Live CD:
i386 torrent
amd64 torrent
powerpc torrent
I just don't trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die.
to base all your company's infrastructure on. Doesn't that just give you the warm fuzzies?
Here you can sign up for free CD's.
Leave your torrent clients open after you're finished.
:)
Let's not reduce Canonical's servers to smoldering piles of silicon over the next few days
"And then I visited Wikipedia
With a few friends, I restarted Nattor, the little CD vendor. We're not ready ready yet, but I had to translate de Ubuntu announcement in french, so there you go :)
Ubuntu Linux is the best distribution I have ever installed. The guy behind this (I forget his name) has invested a small fortune, and I am sure it will become one of the top distributions very soon.
I emplore all Slashdotters to at least have a brief look at Hoary. It really is the "Mutts nuts"!
There are also DVD torrent links that include all of Ubuntu main.
d -amd64.iso.torrent d -i386.iso.torrent
amd64 - http://torrent.ubuntu.com/dvd/20050407.3/hoary-dv
i386 - http://torrent.ubuntu.com/dvd/20050407.3/hoary-dv
I like that the distribution originally picked one desktop (gnome) rather than burden the install media with duplicate packages for both. It's nice that they also now support the other (KDE) with a different CD. Me? I'm a gnome fan and don't want all that extra stuff to download, but it's nice that they support the KDE folks the same way now.
It's interesting that Ubuntu, a binary distro based on slow old Debian, has Gnome stable on 2.10.1, while we bleeding-edge Gentoo users are still on 2.8....
Seen the Distrowatch ranking?
To create the best Linux brew
We must join the very top two
To prevent any illusion
Of brand name confusion
Call it MandrivaGNU/KUbuntu
http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes
:-)
If this goes as easily as most of my past debian upgrades, I will be running Hoary in about 30 minutes
Jan
beacause it just works simple as that .. you plug in a thumb drive it mounts you put in a music cd it works yea i know this is probably easy to set up your self and also no more dependency hell lol and as i said again it just works
Life is like a bag of chips you never know whats next
Speel
it's an open (as opposed to several commercial debian derivatives) debian-based distro that isn't 3 years out of date.
:)
lots of people love debian but wish stable weren't so old and testing were more... stable.
Actually, Ubuntu was actually a scheme by the Gentoo user community to get rid of the fanboys. We figured that if we could create a distro that had an even more obscure name than Gentoo, all of the fanboys would flock to it so that they could stay l33t. It seems to have worked perfectly.
I switched to Ubuntu from Fedora Core 3 a few weeks ago. To be honest, as a desktop, Ubuntu has Fedora beat hands down for me. It runs hella faster on newer hardware. It's setup to work with Apt/Synaptic by default. The Gnome desktop is much newer than the one they're using with Fedora Core 3. I know they have the new version of Gnome in FC4 Test 1, but it has lots of problems. Ubuntu works and works well. Oh and the apt servers are alot faster than the ones for Fedora. In general, I've had alot of good luck with this distro. As a matter of fact, I installed it on a newly aquired laptop last night. Once again, it works beautifully.
Like last time, we're also sending out free pressed CDs in the mail (gratis CDs, gratis shipping). If you want them, you can sign up for them at http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org
I figured it was all total hype until I started installing it to see what it was like. When I found that it kicked the collective asses of every other distribution I have ever tried (Redhat, Slackware, Debian, Mandrake, SuSE, Turbo, Storm, Gentoo, and others) in terms of hardware detection and configuration, I figured out what the fuss was about. Otherwise it is ok, nothing particularly special, but damn can it detect and correctly configure some obscure hardware.
For that reason alone, I recommend it to newbies.
Finkployd
It's amazing that your post even ended up on slashdot.org and not website.com.
It's fairly straightforward:
/etc/apt/sources.list
:wq [enter])
1) Grab a root console (Applications->System Tools->Root Console) and type the password for the first unprivilidged account on your system.
2) vi
3) Replace the lines that are marked thusly:
deb http://ubuntu.../ warty main
and type this instead:
deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
(ignore Slashdot's anti-goatse domain display feature)
Note: this may be as simple as replacing every instance of warty with hoary - but I'm not sure.
3) Save the file (ie esc
4) type apt-get update
5) type apt-get dist-upgrade
6) Wait for everything to download, cross your fingers nothing breaks and enjoy.
disclaimer: it's late at night. I may have missed something...
"And then I visited Wikipedia
i'm a windows user (dont hurt me), and ive tried tons of linux distros over the past 10 years. ubuntu is the ONLY one that "just works".. everything of mine worked, it felt fast and clean. No spending hours trying to get it to work with my display, or trying to navigate the thousands of directories with multiple versions of applications that all do the same thing. Every distro ive tried just seemed so bloated and confusing, there was so much stuff i could never find what I wanted. But Ubuntu loaded right up, everything worked, it was super fast (i always wondered how people could use linux, it always seemed slower than a bloated windows install..but not ubuntu), i also like how theres only 1 gui to choose from. It's just fast/clean, and i may eventually switch to it
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My PC was dual booting win98 2nd edition, and winxp sp2. I have two hardrives: a 30 GB with C: (fat32) and D: (fat32), and a 120 GB with G: (fat32), H: (fat32), and I: (60GB). Win98 was installed to C:, and winxp to D:, but I had xp's apps installed also to C: and I:.
I had installed xp, from within 98, and said not to upgrade, and allow me to specifiy where, so I had a boot menu saying 1) win98 or 2) winxp.
First, I went into xp control panel, admin utilities, computer stuff, hardrives and deleted the H: partition so that it became Free Space. (very important step, if you want xp to be happy, as opposed to just letting linux delete the partition)
Then I put the Ubuntu cd in, and rebooted to my bios and told it to boot from my cd drive. It did, and I went through the install routine. It saw my disks, and the free space, and I created my required linux partitions. (1GB logical swap space at end of the free space, and a primary linux ext2 filesystem with the rest of the free space). It then finished in about 15 mins and rebooted into Ubuntu.
Everything worked perfect. I was on the net, my Pentax camera icon appeared when I hot-plugged it into USB. I had a Hercules GF3 nvidia vid card, so of course it did not do 3D yet, but it was running 2D nicely. I had to run two commands and it configured itself to do 3D. I tested it with id Software's free huge game Wolfenstien Enemy Territory 2.60, and it was better than in Winxp. The frame rate seems higher, and my ping is way better. Next I tried the Gaim messenger program, that Ubuntu installed. I typed in my ICQ number and password, and *ding* there were my buddies both on and offline. Next I tried Evolution, nice but to slow to load, so: www.google.com-->"ubunto thunderbird" and then downloaded a .deb file and installed it from the command line, and its really nice.
For me, I am done. I was lucky to be in a state where my main game was available on linux, so I went for it, and boy am I happy. Sure my 5 year old will still boot to winxp for his 50 games, and my wife for her game, but if I happen to get wine running, then that will stop.
Overall, here are my ending thoughts:
- I love it - I used Symantic Package manager to auto upgrade everything and then wolf stopped working. - I gotta learn how to back it all up so I can experiment - I'm converted. - It rox - Gnome is nice. I'll try KDE too, but I did a year ago, and not see any reason to worry, its not like the debian packages aren't smart enough to install dependant stuff if required. ie) I installed a cd burn program, and it needed KDE resourses, and they were installed automatically. - I tried debian last week, and could not get it to gui no matter what install options I picked, but am glad that forced me into Ubuntu. - Mepis and Kubuntu sound cool too... - I think people who complain about GIMP are too used to Windows. It behaves like old Unix Motif/CDE programs.
GRIN! This is so ready for the desktop. I'm doing grampa, and gushing about it to my engineering, and gaming friends and they are all like: "oh good, show me how, I can't stand trying to run pirated windows these days"
If this was truly a ploy by the Gentoo user community got rid of all the fanboys, then who's left? ;)
No, it does not. I suspect he had a problem with our first prerelease install CD, not with the Live CD that was seperate from his Live CD issues. In any case, the Live CD code is all new now and no, it will not write anything to disk or torch your MBR.
Ubuntu can do this but you should use XFCE desktop or another stripped down desktop for that little memory.
If you install Ubuntu (Hoary or Warthog), then hit 'Esc' after the reboot to choose to start up in 'safe mode' (no gnome startup). Then log in as user and run 'aptitude'. When it asks you to run as root just type in the user password, there is no root password. Type '/' and search for 'xfce' and press '+' to select, then 'g' to go and download and install. The quit aptitude and 'sudo reboot' (which may ask for the user password).
At the graphical login screen. Click on the 'Session' option and choose XFCE.
How long until we get "Wascaly Wabbit"?
Ubuntu 5.04 now provides images for installation from DVD. The DVD install image includes all supported packages, including those Not installed by default.
Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog) Install/live DVD
The combined install/live DVD allows you either to install Ubuntu permanently on a computer, or (by entering 'live' at the boot prompt) to try Ubuntu without changing your computer at all. There are three images available, each for a different type of computer:
Install/live DVD for AMD64 computers (BitTorrent download)
Install/live DVD for Intel x86 computers (BitTorrent download)
Install/live DVD for PowerPC computers (BitTorrent download)
-- Eavy (: Linux Is Not UniX
Or if a CLI scares you a bit, it can be done with the synaptic package manager (you can find it in the menu). Look for repositories in the settings menu and change all instances of "warty" with "hoary". Reload the list, hit the mark all upgrades button, then apply and watch the latest Ubuntu roll in. It worked great for me with no problems. Imagine that! Doing something big with Linux and not even having to open xterm, though it's awesome to know that it's there if you want it. Ubuntu rocks!
Yea, once sarge is finally released...
./
Anyways, in the meantime, here's xorg compiled for sarge:
deb http://www.acm.rpi.edu/~dilinger/xorg/
I tried Ubuntu's last release some 6 months ago on my aging Dell Inspiron 8200. It didn't install cleanly. Anyone know if it will now?
Other issues I had as a linux noob (I've used it at work, just never installed it) included annoyances like lack of support for mp3's and java.
Excuse me, but if you want a distro to become mainstream and you ship it with a music player, it shouldn't just vomit out "mp3 is not a recognized format" - it should tell you exactly how to make it work and where to find out the background on why it doesn't work out of the box.
Making mp3s was simple compared to getting java and Eclipse installed, but I'd rather buy a Mac than have to go through that again.
I still have that partition free though...
Information: "I want to be anthropomorphized"
I've been using Ubuntu/x86_64 with the Kubuntu KDE distribution for the past four weeks. It's nice to have a decent installer and a system that works almost out of the box (past configuring the system for small personal preferences).
/boot on a raid1 device. On every bootup. Perhaps Ubuntu could support grub+raid1+root+boot in the future; see here for details. I was unsuccessful at getting LILO to boot, too. Maybe it's a hardware thing [1].
As much as I like this, there are other things that make it difficult for me to use it:
1. Wacom is not supported out of the box, and the Wacom driver module packages are incomplete (the build rules don't copy anything but wacom.ko). It'd be great to be able to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu and have the Wacom tablet work as advertised on the Linux-Wacom Driver Project page.
2. I got errors booting Grub with / and
3. On Ubuntu/x86-64 win32 video codecs run only under a chroot'd 32-bit environment. Ubuntu could make this task easier/more seamless (for example, I want to see videos with Kaffeine or Xine, but AIUI they have to be run in a chroot environment.. that's not very seamless..)
4. It'd be great to have the installer automatically install the commercial NVidia drivers. They're currently an optional package.
5. Also great would be the inclusion of Jeff Garzik's SATA thermal sensor patches for libATA, available here.
With this patch, hddtemp works on SATA drives.
6. Ubuntu doesn't seem to have installation-time setup of the "sensors" package (i.e., run sensors-detect and install the modules as needed automatically).
7. Missing packages. Kubuntu was missing (last I checked a few days ago) the Python bindings for KDE. For that matter, there are packages that don't exist for x86_64 systems, like Psyco, Flash and the Adobe Reader.
I've since switched to Alioth's Debian/x86_64, but would happily switch back when Kubuntu-x86_64 matures, as Alioth does not seem to have 64-bit KDE 3.4.0 packages (could be wrong though).
references:
1. My motherboard is a MSI NEO K8T FIS2R with an Athlon64/3200+.
- Roey
> can someone please explain to me what the sudden infatuation with Ubuntu is?
Yeah. It's like this, see: There are five major classes of distributions using the Linux kernel: Debian-based, rpm-based, tarball-based, source-based, and specialty distributions. Specialty distros, such as Coyote, are just aimed at a particular use, so they don't show up much on the desktop. The tarball-based distros and to some extent the rpm-based distros are what most people use, it seems, but they have some problems, especially in terms of dependency resolution. urpmi and similar tools help, but there are still some, err, issues. I've been using Mandrake as my primary desktop for some good while now, and I mostly like it, but there are issues. I experimented with Gentoo, but that was a little *too* bleeding-edge for me, and it works your hardware pretty hard if you update often.
One of the chief selling points for Debian-based distros has always been apt-get, which supposedly handles dependencies very nicely, but doesn't have the compilation overhead of Gentoo. However, installing Debian itself (the stable release, that is) is like stepping back in time to the late paleolithic. I tried Sid, but couldn't get it to install to an actual bootable state, much less get a desktop running. The stable realease I got bootable, but getting a desktop running promised a fair amount of old-school pain -- hand-tweaking mode lines in XF86Config and stuff. C'mon, RedHat conquered that in 6.0, during the late bronze age, when most of us still had ISA expansion slots and an ethernet card was considered an optional extra on many new PCs.
Please note, I'm not trying to say Debian is bad. A lot of people really like it, and I suspect I might too, if I could get it set up and working. It does have frustrations, though. One of the servers I have an account on has Debian Stable, and getting recent Perl modules installed off the CPAN is far more problematic than on newer systems, for instance. I suppose that's a minor quibble, but for somebody coming from Mandrake, which is a bit more on the cutting edge side of things (though not to the same extent as Gentoo), it's a little annoying to go through the entire OS install, with eight disks, and discover that after all that you don't even have GTK2 installed. Gah. Some of us find that frustrating in 2005. I think some parts of the installation routine (most notably dselect) are older than my graphics card, which is a Matrox Mystique that I got in January 1998. In 1998, using dselect felt like a reasonable option -- I mean, installing Windows95 was a real pain too, and I was accustomed to using DOS, which you usually installed by manually copying the files. (I think DOS 5 and 6 theoretically came with an INSTALL.EXE, but it was primitive enough that nobody used it. DOS 3 didn't come with one at all. But DOS is no longer a major contender for desktop systems in 2005, either.)
So this is where Ubuntu comes in: it's based on Debian, but it's modern. Other distros have come along before that were Debian-based but more modern and desktop-oriented. There was Lindo^H^Hspire, for instance, but Ubuntu is more open and closer to the Debian way of doing things, except for the fact that it's more modern than Debian stable. Yet, while it's not as stable (in the "hasn't changed since Grandpappy used it" sense), as Debian stable, it is nevertheless fairly stabilized in the sense of mostly working, not having so many bugs as to render it useless, and so on -- it's cutting edge, but it's not *bleeding*-edge like Gentoo can be at times. For some of us, that just feels like the right balance.
Right now, I'm still using Mandrake for my main system -- I don't like to migrate often or prematurely -- but I'm evaluating Ubuntu on the side, in VMWare, and may switch to it if it's good to me. It shows promise. It's got my attention. I'm interested.
I hope that explains why people are interested in Ubuntu. It's why *I* am interested in it, at any rate.
Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
I'm running Hoary RC2 right now, finally got it all installed and working properly last night. Unlike what some people have said, it doesn't properly configure and install everything first boot EVERY time. The audigy drivers were installed correctly, yet no sound was coming out of my speakers. It took some hunting, but I later found out that my Analog/Digital out jack was turned off in alsamixer. Turning that on fixed the problem. Secondly, while the nvidia drivers are available, at least with my GeForce 6800, they aren't loaded and configured properly on initial boot. You only find out when you try to log into Gnome only to find your system freezes up. Nothing an apt-get install nvidia-glx wouldn't fix, though. Ohter thank those two problems Ubuntu seems to be a fairly stable distro. I came over to it from Fedora and must say that I like it a lot more. Using synaptic to manage packages beats downloading rpms and solving dependency problems with Fedora. Though, yum wasn't too bad.
I'm flabbergasted. You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Look, I'm not going to argue about source-based vs. binary-based distros or Ubuntu vs. MEPIS or whatever. I have no idea what you are talking about, man!
Maybe you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how Debian-based distros works. They have this cool concept of "Package Management." It's been around for a while, you should ask Google about it (or maybe you prefer AltaVista or Hotspot). The general idea is that you ask the package manager to get a package, and the package manager gets the package and all its dependencies! WOW!
Maybe you tried a Debian-based distro once, and hadn't taken time to understand how to use it. You were in the pre-apt RPM mindset of looking around for a
You want to argue about source-based vs. package-based, or crazy optimizer flags for SUP3R-1337 FAST binaries (that load
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I'm going to upgrade my Sarge server to Hoary this weekend. I love Debian but testing breaks too much and stable is too old. The basic idea of Ubuntu is that they support the most popular / important packages from Debian, but still let you install almost all of the other Debian packages (via universe). For me, the packages I needed from universe were stuff like Gallery and SpamAssassin which I don't consider critical for security updates.
The advantage is that the software is recent but reasonably well-tested, will have security updates for the core (non-universe) packages, and can be upgraded in six months to the next version. It solves the Debian problem of choosing between old stable or broken testing / unstable. It's also completely free and has a good social contract along the lines of Debian. The development process seems reasonably open and the community is pretty strong, especially considering the young age of the distro.