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Hitchhiker's Guide Reviewed

me at werk writes "The Register has posted it's review of h2g2. 'The radio series, that became a book, that became a TV series, has finally made it to the silver screen. The film version of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is faithful to author Douglas Adams' legacy. The trouble is it's simply not especially funny.'"

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  1. My review by a3217055 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I watched it, it was pretty funny. But then I watched it by myself, and I remember laughing so hard to the show on radio and smiling after reading the boook. But I did not laugh as much.
    Don't know why...

    1. Re:My review by AlXtreme · · Score: 5, Funny

      That is just so... depressing

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    2. Re:My review by gaijin99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I thought the movie was actually pretty good. What many people keep forgetting is that the book itself falls flat in the last half. Seriously, how long has it been since you read the book? Go back and read it again and you'll discover that once they get to Megrathea it really isn't that funny, amusing yes, but hardly *funny* the way some of the earlier bits are.

      As for the movie itself, it really is quite good. The casting is wonderful, especially the man they got to play Zaphod. And the bits where the Guide is used are truly great.

      The movie wasn't really all that funny towards the end, but neither was the book so I can't complain on that note.

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    3. Re:My review by crs3210 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I made the mistake of comparing mediums when I first saw the tv series, and I was thoroughly disappointed. I had heard a lot of bad stuff about this movie, so when I went to see it, I had somewhat low expectations, and they were very much surpassed. No, this isn't the book...this is the movie. It's supposed to be different; Douglas Adams even intended it to be so when he wrote the screenplay. Sure they cut out a few jokes, or executed them somewhat poorly, however, there are quite a few extra stuff they put in that wasn't in the book or the series, and this more than makes up for it in my opinion. Highly recommended, for newcomers and (open minded) hardcore fans alike.

    4. Re:My review by sirket · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What movie did you see? I walked out halfway through. I have _never_ done that before- not even Battlefield Earth!

      Zaphod was not supposed to be stupid- a "frood" sure. Hip definitely. Zany ok. But not stupid.

      Where was the remotely funny dialog? It was not funny in the slightest. It was just- dumb. The humour was Disney-eque slapstick of the type I would expect from Will Ferrel- i.e. the kind of humour that makes me nauseous.

      The movie had only a couple of redeeming points- Marvin was funny. The guide was pretty good although the voice-over just sounded... wrong I guess. The heart or gold externally looked cool. Internally it was mind bogglingly boring.

      What the hell was with John Malkovich? Why was that scene there at all? It did nothing to advance the plot and was not in the book that I remember reading.

      Douglas Adams was all about dialog and this movie had none of it. How did cutting out "Beware of the Leopard" make the movie better? Did saving those three seconds of dialog make the movie short enough to include some other joke? What was with the damned Dolphins at the beginning? Was I watching Monty Python or Douglas Adams? Just because it is British does not mean it has to be Monty Python. And the scene with Mr. Prosser and the bulldozers- Why change it? It was _hysterical_ in the book. It set the entire tone for the story. In the movie- it's just- stupid- boring- pointless...

      The book is ecclectic. It seems almost random but at least it is funny. The movie is so far beyond random as to be senseless. More importantly it is not funny.

      I rated this on IMDB and actually gave it a 1. And I LOVED the books. I own several copies and have read all 5 books and the short story. I've also read his other books and I just do not think he would have thought this movie was good.

      -sirket

    5. Re:My review by shawb · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Considering that we are friend of a friend and friend of a foe, no idea how to take this one. :)

      Yes, the movie is different from the book. The book was different from the radio series. The infocom game was different from all of these. The only things that Douglas Adams wanted to remain True is that The Guide itself is there for narration and asides, and that Arthur is the quintissential british anti-hero. Aside from those, he couldn't care less as long as it made a decent story.

      So if you are going in demanding that they make a retelling of the book, then yes, you are better off staying at home. If you want to see a different look on this amazing world that Adams has created (with help from Jim Henson's Creature Shop and it does indeed show if you look) and maybe get a couple of chuckles, then it may be worth seeing the movie. Oh... and if you actually enjoy enjoying movies, do not, I repeat DO NOT read reviews before going to see the movie. Most reviews seem to be done by people who are just bitter that they couldn't actually make it into the business themselves. Having read those reviews the feeling carries with you into the viewing.

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    6. Re:My review by Golias · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When I think of all the good jokes they cut, and all the scenes which felt rushed, that they made those unwise edits to make room for us to hear that idiotic song at the beginning and end of the film, I find myself in Marvin's camp.

      "So-LONG-so-LONG-so-LONG and thanks... for all the fiiiiiiish!"

      Dear God I'm so depressed.

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  2. Reviews don't matter here by TheoGB · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well I don't think they do. It's got so much crap to carry round to live up to that you just can't begin to know if you'll like it.

    I hope to see it this weekend and, as long as it's about as good as the TV version (which I wasn't a fan of), I'll be happy I guess.

    Of course, if it's slapstick city I may have real trouble taking it and will feel cheated of my tenner!

  3. contradiction by FidelCatsro · · Score: 5, Insightful
    he film version of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is faithful to author Douglas Adams' legacy. The trouble is it's simply not especially funny.'"
    Is it just me .. or does that statment sort of contradict itself.
    One of the main things I enjoy about Douglas Adams works is the humor .
    To be faithfull to his legacy i would say that you need to capture the "Funny" parts aswell as the other aspects , and the humor is pretty much one of the main aspects .
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    1. Re:contradiction by Monkelectric · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I just got out of a screening about an hour ago. Let me advance another theory. The books simply aren't that good. Most of the books humor is based on long and winding asides, and almost no story telling. I'm not saying the douglas books are bad, just that people idolize them as some example of perfection and they're not. People do the same thing with Star Wars and it drives me nuts :)

      Story telling is exactly what movies are supposed to be about, and long winding asides is exactly what movies aren't supposed to be about.

      My point is, the books are funny in a way that movies can't be funny, and the books are only marginally funny at that. Douglas usually gets 5 or 6 REALLY good jokes in per book and the rest is pretty marginal -- it works becuase the book gets you on a roll which lightents your expectations -- which the movie never did.

      I think the movie did an excellent job of bringing material not suitable for film -- to film. That being said, the delivery of the jokes was simply off, as you say. They spoke much too deliberately -- you can't deliver quick witted comments slowly.

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    2. Re:contradiction by Harker · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It is very possible that the timing or rhythm was off for the jokes. I just figured that the lack of humor I perceived was due to the fact that none of it was new to me.

      I've read the books enough times that I don't get the same experience as I did the first time around. That happens. The jokes stop being as funny as before, the more times you hear/see/read them.

      I saw this at this past Monday's preview, and thought it was great. Much better than the BBC production, but not as good as the books.

      It was much better than I expected it to be.

      Given the responses from the audience, including the group that sat directly behind us, who didn't realize there was a book, I think it went over well enough. However, I doubt it will do well enough for us to see a sequel. Time will tell though, I suppose.

      If you are a fan of the books, it's worth a viewing, in my opinion.

      H.

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    3. Re:contradiction by Mike1024 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Is it just me .. or does that statment sort of contradict itself.
      One of the main things I enjoy about Douglas Adams works is the humor.


      Well, the 'not all that funny' criticism falls into two categories:

      1) Removed jokes, for instance the planning permission on the bottom of a filing cabinet in a locked underground toilet with a sign saying 'beware of the leopard' on the door. This is justifiable in a way; it simply wouldn't be practical to put everything from the books into the film.

      2) Dry humour delivered in silence. For instance, 'do you know how much damage would be caused to this bulldozer if I let it run over you? / No / None at all'. It's funny. But no-one is laughing. I don't know how to fix that; it might be a problem with the film medium for this type of humour. A laughter track, for instance, would be shite.

      Soooooooo.... what's my opinion? Well, it's a competently made movie. It's well cast, it has decent graphics, it has it's amusing moments. I would classify it as 'ok to good'. I would have classified the book as 'good to very good, tending towards the latter'. So no, I didn't think it was as good as the book, but it was ok. Nothing like as bad as that first review on slashdot made out.

      7 out of 10 from me.

      Michael

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    4. Re:contradiction by LordLucless · · Score: 4, Informative

      Which is exactly why I like Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency more than Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, and recommend it to all me DNA-less friends before HHGTTG.

      Dirk Gently is still funny, has less of the absurdist asides, has a plot, and one that is funny in its own right, has a bit of character development, and even inspires the occasional emotion apart from humour in the reader. And I like some Coleridge's poetry too :)

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    5. Re:contradiction by LordLucless · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I didnt say it didnt have any asides, I said it didnt have any absurdist insides. Half of the humour rom HHG is from asides that have only tangential relevance to the rest of the story. "Beware of the Tiger" sign. Babelfish and God. The army of battleships eaten by a small dog. The quantum physics aside in Dirk Gently was used because the book later discusses it in other areas, and the characters are used to discuss it to give the reader a basic foundation.

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  4. Hope for the best, but... by houstonbofh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This has the potential to be either one of the best, or one of the most disappointing movies of the year. I am trying not to hope too much for the former, and keep my expectations low. Too often lately it seems that low expectations are the key to good movies.

  5. Reviews Mostly Positive by gad_zuki! · · Score: 4, Informative

    over at rotten tomatoes

    Currently 62% positive

    1. Re:Reviews Mostly Positive by LuxFX · · Score: 2, Funny

      Currently 62% positive

      So, in other words, the reviews are Mostly Harmless?

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  6. Better with the books by Wrexs0ul · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Pretty sure I enjoyed it more because of the books. The Register had it right about plot development: you'll need to have read the books to make sense of some parts - like the dolphins - but otherwise it's a pretty funny film.

    I love the sound effect tie-ins too, watch for the bread knife and it's upcoming George Lucas prequel.

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    1. Re:Better with the books by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They left out the Guide entry on towels, AND the entry for Earth, which was only the damn title of the fifth book.

      As I saw it put elsewhere, "Hey, Peter! I've got a great idea! Let's leave the Balrog out of the movie!"

      Fuck Disney. Everyone involved in taking this marvelous quirky story and turning it into a fucking Galaxy Quest clone needs to be skullfucked to death.

    2. Re:Better with the books by Bozzio · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Personally, I thought it was very well adapted.

      As expected, I didn't see ALL the gags from the book, but I'm happy to say at least they cut the less funny ones instead of the good ones. You can't really expect everything from the book to be in the movie. As you know, I'm sure, a great deal of the book's charm is in the wording of the narration. Converting the narration's humour to movie format without over narrating is definitely hard, and I for one think they did a great job.

      I will agree, however, that I didn't expect Marvin to look that way. I also didn't expect Zaphod to look that way either, but his character was great!

      Also, in the credits, the BBC is thanked for providing the original Marvin suit from the TV series. I haven't watched the series yet, but is that how Marvin looked? That could be a good explanation.

      Anyway.. there were differences from the book, but they were well done. For example, Ford showing up at the beginning with a cart full of beer. At first I was worried the pub scene would be cut, but it wasn't, and it tied in well! I actually preferred how this scene played out.

      Sadly, they DID cut out the Narrator's explanation of how Ford picked his name.. BUT they still managed to fit in how Ford thought cars were the dominant species of earth. Precious!

      Overall, the movie is pretty damn close to the book. The changes are warranted, and still pretty damn funny. On the down side, I can see how a lot of the plot and humour would be harder to catch if you hadn't read the book(s).

      I still give it 3 thumbs up.

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    3. Re:Better with the books by ikkonoishi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The original Marvin was a prop in one of the scenes.

      Also a huge scanned image of Douglas Adam's head was one of the planets they were making.

    4. Re:Better with the books by shawb · · Score: 2, Informative

      Also, in the credits, the BBC is thanked for providing the original Marvin suit from the TV series. I haven't watched the series yet, but is that how Marvin looked?

      It's the robot standing in line on Vogosphere.

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    5. Re:Better with the books by JoshNorton · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Given how much of Starship Titanic WASN'T Adams and was instead the other parts of the team at TDV... Eh, I think it's fair. Besides, it's not like they had to pay royalties - just acknowledgement. It's being polite.

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    6. Re:Better with the books by __aahlyu4518 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Including Mr Adams himself who wrote the script for this ? People seem to forget that it was him who said that every instance of this story should be a little different from the others.

      With every film made after a comic, a book ,a bbc radio series, there are some people that nomatter how good the movie is, will bash it just because they think it is not completely accurate or the writer must have had a different view blah blah blah...

      I just ignore these people, and go see it for myself... I usually end up liking it.

      I also ignore people that hype a movie to the stars, because a movie usually cannot live upto it. People that told me that I just HAD to see 'Independance Day' I never took seriously again. That was for me one of the worst movies ever.

      But then again.. now people will ignore ME hopefully for saying that ;-)

  7. book to movie by timmarhy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the problem i think is so many people have read the book and have their own idea of how things will look, everyones will be different, which is why it's so hard to please everyone when you adapt a popular book to tv/movie

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  8. Re:Well... by FidelCatsro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I really don't like the new Marvin , he looks kind of Mangaled(sorry for the pun) , and dosn't look entierly crap as he did in the TV-show which really added to the charichter.. Actualy come ot think of it , most of the new costumes are rather odd and make the charichters look like Jedi knights
    http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://ww w.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/gallery_photos/hitchhike rs_cast_gal.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.scifi.com/sci fiwire2005/index.php%3Fcategory%3D10%26id%3D122&h= 250&w=380&sz=22&tbnid=Wyl4kgno2gMJ:&tbnh=78&tbnw=1 19&hl=en&start=3&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmarvin%2Bhitch hikers%2B%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN
    for example

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  9. Re:Well... by shawb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    First off, I was there with towel on shoulder...

    Watching the previews, Marvin was my biggest concern. That concern ended up not panning out,,, he fit in pretty well. I'd say just put aside your preconceptions and go watch a movie. There are enough of the little things added that only a Hitchiker's afficiondo would appreciate to make it worth your time. Just don't get stuck up in the "Well, they did it different in the book" trap. This is alot easier to do if you realize that Douglas Adams never intended for previous works to be Canon. He's just telling a story. It has to be altered a bit here and there to allow for different mediums, so while some of the old gems are lost, new things show up.

    Synopsis sans spoiler: while I didn't bust a gut laughing, I did laugh out loud in the theatre. That's alot more than I can say for just about any other "comedy" I've seen in a while.

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  10. Saw it Friday by FuturePastNow · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've read the books, and I watched it with someone who has memorized most of the jokes, and we both enjoyed it. It's different, and if you want to see the books (the first one, in this case) translated exactly to film, you'll be disappointed. The movie exists as its own entity, just like the radio show and the TV show and everything else. The British humor is extremely toned down, but it's still pretty funny. That poor whale...

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    1. Re:Saw it Friday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think you need to be careful if you've memorized a lot of the original jokes. There's a fair few times where the feedlines have been worked into the dialog, but the punchlines dropped - if you're new to H2G then you won't notice. But, at least to begin with, if you know the jokes then this drives you crazy. Adams' humour can work much like Python humour - you know the joke, you're waiting for the joke, you enjoy the buildup to the joke, and - bam - you get the satisfaction of the punchline. In this film, at times, you feel cheated out of your punchline.

      But - once you're past all that - it's a damn funny film. There are new jokes, and they're funny; and the new plot device (through which the day is saved at the film's climax) is pure Adams.

  11. Re:It is another example... by Trent05 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Didn't Adams himself help write the screenplay? He's credited.

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  12. I love the movie! by Buster+Chan · · Score: 5, Informative

    The early eighties TV version is a great three-and-a-half hour videotape, the radio version is a great nine hours ... soon to be thirteen hours. The books are a great couple of weeks. The old DC comics version was apt. And the movie is a wonderful way to spend the afternoon. Having experienced the other versions, the new film was a welcome addition to the Douglas Adams canon, in my opinion. I loved the new episode with regards to the Church of the Arkelseisure, because that Perspective Gun was a wonderful literary tool which allowed screenwriter Douglas Adams to have his characters learn things which they otherwise would have learned through bulky dialogue. As for dialogue, the movie had a good mix of "novel dialogue" and "movie dialogue". "Novel dialogue" is bulky, wheras "movie dialogue" is short and to the point, and the film had a good mix indeed.

    I've enjoyed the other versions, and so I found it very simple to enjoy the new version.

    They must make four sequels.

    P.S. Bring a pair of "red and blue" 3D glasses. As the starship Heart of Gold arrives at the planet Magrathea, the crew is greeted by a holographic recording. That recording is only a minute long; however, it's in 3D. You need a pair of "red and blue" 3D glasses in order to properly enjoy that minute of film. This is not a spoiler; it's an enhancer.

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  13. Cameos by GSVNoFixedAbode · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Personal favourite bits: seeing the original Marvin in the queue on Vogsphere, as well as the cameo played by Simon Jones (the original Arthur). And the gun, don't forget the gun.

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  14. Re:This movie is bad by mangus_angus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Under NO circumstances can you compaire this to Battlefield earth. You were either smoking, drinking, or just went in with your judgement already made. While I will admit it wasn't as funny as it COULD have been, saying it's like BFE is like saying Linux is like Windows.

  15. Moderate: Unfunny by rufusdufus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    People with good memories for the book might find the movie funny because their minds fill in the missing dialogue. But as Ebert says, to someone who doesn't already know the book, its not funny.
    Whats interesting is that the movie does have some of the funniest scenes from the book, but those scenes just don't work. Partly because the persectives are different. Being inside the head of a newly born whale as it plummets to earth is funny, but watching a graphic of it hit the ground isn't funny.

    Other things were just poorly done, for example, the babble fish. They actually do cut to the Guide to explain what a babblefish does, but totally skip the part about God disappearing in a puff of logic. So the scene is not funny at all save maybe a little slapstick about putting a fish in Authur's ear.

    Sadly, this movie is exactly what you expect from Hollywood doing a foriegn movie, dumbed down to the point of irrelevance.

    1. Re:Moderate: Unfunny by cipher+uk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Being inside the head of a newly born whale as it plummets to earth is funny, but watching a graphic of it hit the ground isn't funny." I'm not so sure. I laughed out loud when the graphic of the whale hit the ground came up. The whole scene of the whale talking about the ground and wondering if it would be its friend made it funny. You knew what was going to happen but the whale did not. I have never read the books and have seen only one episode of the TV series. I wasn't the only person laughing when there was a thud.

    2. Re:Moderate: Unfunny by porcupine8 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      There's a IRC chat in bash.org, where a guy got fired for accidently putting Bibles in the fiction section.

      Hm. The only thing I could find was this:

      i got kicked out of barnes and noble once for moving all the bibles into the fiction section

      I'd be pissed and kick him out too. Do you know how much extra work that makes for the employees, who have better shit to do than clean up after someone trying to be "clever"?

      I had to go and search for myself, because your version sounded highly unlikely. In most bookstores, Bibles get their very own (rather large) section - there's no way an employee could accidentally put them in fiction any more than they could accidentally put a dictionary in fiction.

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    3. Re:Moderate: Unfunny by vincent404 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Personal I thought it was great, but one of my friends who had not read the book or had any other interaction with H2G2 had said it was funny at parts but dragged at others. Looking back, I can see where she got that. I think if they had cut out the whole romantic element, they could have done it. Loved everyone in the movie, even Mos Def. Sam Rockwell was great at Zaphod.. he just acted so vain, which would be Zaphod :). But in the end, the friend liked it. I think that one must remeber that it is an adaptation and things will be left out. Even in movies like Lord of the Rings things were left out. I think what it boils down to is that if you're a real stickler for accuracy, you'll find anything wrong.

    4. Re:Moderate: Unfunny by ArsSineArtificio · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Do you know how much extra work that makes for the employees, who have better shit to do than clean up after someone trying to be "clever"?



      Oddly enough, people trying to make an Important Social Statement never seem to actually think about the people they're supposed to be sticking up for. Kind of like all those anti-trade protestors who trash McDonald's restaurants, not considering that they mainly just screwed over the employees, who wouldn't be working there if they didn't really need the money.

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    5. Re:Moderate: Unfunny by Bitsy+Boffin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      even though I love that monologue, I agree with its deletion

      So because some people who wouldn't know funny if it hit them over the head think that the film is thrusting Aethism down thier throat with a 30 second bit of humor then we should remove one of the most intellectually amusing parts of the story?

      Sigh. Why can't people just grow the fuck up and learn to laugh at themselves sometimes.

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  16. I've just seen it last night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And to be honest its not to bad at all. Yes some of the British comedy tone was toned down, but it was still rather funny. It managed to get a good couple of belly laughs from the audiance, including me.

    Good points, marvin was spectacular and outdid the original TV series' version. Zaphod Beeblebrox was outstanding and the true extent of his ego bleeds off the screen (flamebait comment, to be honest I think only an American could pull off the cheesy grin and un-abashed ego... sorry :P). The extended usage of the vogons was quite amusing and they made great bad guys. There are some bits that will make the geek in you go "ooh ooh ooh!" and point excitedly although I wont go into detail as to spoil it.

    Bad points are I'm a bit hmmmm about Ford, Trillian and Arthur though. Ford really didnt create any sort of major screen prescence and as such became a rather minor character with a penchant for towels. Trillian, whilst great at the start of the film, seamed to get relegeted to damsel in distress/love interest (standard hollywood crap). And Arthur... well hes was quite good for most of the film but I suppose I miss the orginal TV version which sticks in my mind as the definative Arthur Dent.

    I suppose the worst aspect of the film is that yes, some of the great witty dialogue is missing. Its not all gone but a lot of the classic lines are trimmed. I quite missed the original lines regarding the babel fish proveing that god did not exist and the very funny bit about the plans being on display (the shortend "I had to go downstairs", made no sense on screen).

    In all I would recommend people go see it, it gets a bit shakey before the middle but still provides a good homage to Adams' legacy.

  17. I always knew... by tekrat · · Score: 4, Funny

    I always knew there was something fundamentally wrong with the universe. -- Arthur Dent.

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  18. Re:This movie is bad by Buster+Chan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I saw the movie this afternoon, and I can't understand your mindset. The mindset of anyone who'd post a negative review puzzles me. I've seen, heard, and read, the other versions of H2G2, and this new film was legitimately the best non-novel draft of that story. They MUST make sequels galore.

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  19. Angst does not go well with Hitchhiker's by tehanu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The major problem I had with the movie is that it adds angst and sentimentality to the plot. Note, this is very stereotypical *Hollywood* angst and sentimentality and you can practically predict the lines so it's not particularly good angst and sentimentality either. Note I am a girl and I devour trashy romance novels and love chick flicks. However, there are situations where putting this sort of stuff in just simply doesn't really work (esp. when it is so badly written). Basically you sit through the movie. Funny scene. Laugh. Angst, romance, talking (all badly done) get bored. Funny scene - laugh. Angst, romance, talking - bored. Oh let me predict what lines they are going to say next. Wow, I got it right. How amazing (sarcasm). Funny scene - laugh. Etc. etc. Though I suspect the funny scenes were funny because I already read the book as they do seem to cut a lot of stuff out...

    The other problem is Ford Prefect, Mr. Sarcasm in the originals is practically a non-entity and not especially funny when he does exist.

    I loved Zaphod though :)

  20. Do I belong on this planet myself? by NewtonEatPalm! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Spoiler alert... I guess.

    Why does it seem like I'm the only one that thought the playing up of Arthur and Trillian's romance was ridiculous? Why does Trillian have an American accent? Why... why... why...

    Yes, I probably sound like just another rabid Adams fanboy who expected the movie to be a direct copy of the book. That isn't the case. I thought the film was awful. The acting was not very good, some of the revised dialog was really awkward, and... many other things simply related to the filmmaking itself and not just the script. My girlfriend and I were incredibly tempted to walk out many times, especially when Arthur made his incredibly awkward (I cannot use that word enough... that is my official review of the whole film... AWKWARD...) attempt at a sweet soliloquy at Trillian while about to have his brain removed by mice...

    I think I'm just incredibly sore at the fact that they even attempted to make the film accessible to the general public. Am I being elitist? Probably... I mean, I can see the value in attempting to bring Adams' work to a broader venue, but when they cannot be done justice, some things are probably left unsaid. Or un-filmed in this case.

    The film attempts to "have it's cake and eat it too" (to indulge in a trite cliche); make broad swaths of generic American love-story candy-coated filmmaking and sneak in the funny dialogue and faithful-to-the-series bits when the "normals" in the audience are distracted by something shiny. The hardcore fans will deride it for its creative license, and the great unwashed will view it as a quirky little film that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to them and is only "kinda" funny.

    After getting in my car afterward and popping in Radiohead's "OK Computer", especially "Subterranean Homesick Alien", all I could think of were the smiling faces of the proleteriat in the audience, laughing their heads off every time Ford, Zaphod or Arthur were hit in the face with while walking on Vogsphere. The same scene that made me groan loudly. I wondered quietly as I took occasional peeks at the moon while driving: am I right on the money about this, or am I completely wrong? If the latter is true, then perhaps, like Ford, I've been trapped on this planet for far too long.

    *sigh*... tommorrow's another day, I suppose...

    1. Re:Do I belong on this planet myself? by Psycizo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      According to DNA, only Arthur is *supposed* to have an English accent, and he actually wanted to get some Americans to do the other characters in probably at least one instance.

      Another point is DNA was also the one who added the idea to have a Trillian/Arthur romance.

      That info was all from the answers from Robbie Stamp, posted a few days ago on /.

      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/26/195224 8&tid=97&tid=133&tid=214

    2. Re:Do I belong on this planet myself? by shawb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I actually thought that was clever. The largest slapstick scene in the movie was them getting hit with, well, slapsticks. Very DNA.

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      I'll never make that mistake again, reading the experts' opinions. - Feynman
  21. Funny book - dull film per se. by Circlotron · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I saw it 46 hours ago (I missed the opportunity to say 42 hours) and I must admit I have never read the book, only heard my son relating the highlights as he read it. It seems to me that the film mainly serves to remind you of the funny bits you read in the book rather than being amusing in itself. If you read and like the book then the film will probably be ok, but if you go and see the film cold like me then you might just be glancing at your watch and waiting till you can get back home and read /.

  22. Re:Well... by betelgeuse-4 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you're a fan of the TV version of Marvin, watch the queueing scene carefully. I saw the film last night and thought the new Marvin was really good. You can't see it in the stills but his movement and posture fits his personality perfectly. The film is quite different from the radio/TV/book versions, but the bits that have changed work well.

  23. Re:Why the need for a movie? by vistic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Agreed. The magic of this story was always in the dialogue... using great special effects to add a sense of wonder (like the Magrathean construction floor) doesn't do much for the story. Looks cool... but zooming by planets just makes the audience go "oooh" and "ahhh" and that time should have been spent making them laugh their butts off.

  24. Re:Why the need for a movie? by torpor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    its as if you have no awareness whatsoever of this concept called 'a generation'.

    believe it or not, but there are some people who did not grow up reading books. there are a generation or two, or three, of people who do not read books.

    these people go to movies.

    should the story be inaccessible to them?

    making a movie about a book, might prompt people to read the book. believe it or not, but this does actually happen. people see movies, they hear that it was based on a book, and then .. if they liked the movie enough, they feel compelled to read the book.

    translating one form of literary culture into another form, is usually a good way to spread that culture. don't you agree?

    oh, wait. you're one of those self-ism types, for whom the idealization of the self is all there is. your self, having read the book, can't possibly think of why there is any reason whatsoever to contribute to another cultural form.

    next time you see a 9 year old, ask them if they know the answer to life, the universe, and everything.. you might get a kick out of the answer.

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  25. Re:Why the need for a movie? by vistic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So we're letting all the people who don't like to think very hard while enjoying a good book or radio program, ruin the film version of a story we all love? Why do we want people like that to see the movie anyway... they *still* won't like it if it's dumbed down for them... all that does is ruin the movie for everyone.

    This movie should have been made for FANS only.

  26. Re:Why the need for a movie? by bokane · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So does the movie actually lessen your enjoyment? Did Garth Jennings, or whoever it was who directed it, somehow go back in time and steal your delight in the original books? Geez -- if it's not as good as the books - and I don't see how it could be - then it's not as good as the books. It's not going to make me throw away my copy, or decide that I didn't actually like it after all.

  27. STAY AFTER CREDITS!!!! by madaxe42 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Stay and watch the credits - about 3 or 4 minutes into them there are some bonus scenes from the guide!

  28. I'm glad things are different by fireboy1919 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'll go even further. If you have any idea what the thing your aunt gave you that you don't know what it is" is, then you'll know that Douglas Adams intended each version of things to be different from the others. He even went so far as to say that he was upset how similar (and therefore boring to the fans) the miniseries was to the books, and it was only that way because he didn't have as much creative control as he would have liked.

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  29. Loved the movie, though I never read the books by ranson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Although I've been a techie my whole life, i was raised by religiously fanatical parents, so none of this talk of space exploration and evolution would be tolerated in our home. So that excluded enjoying HGG on the radio, television, or bookshelf.

    I bring this up because it seems most everyone else here has gotten intimate with HGG in some form or another, so I thought I would provide some insight into the reaction of someone who saw the movie with no previous knowledge of what this thing was all about.

    I was so eager to see HGG, I got to the theatre 45 minutes early last night to ensure good seating. I will say it simplye: the movie did NOT disappoint. Funny? Absolutely! There is a lot of silly humor, mainly in the forms of irony and cynicism. Many, many times throughout the movie, the entire theatre was laughing out loud together. I'm not sure who all in the theatre was familiar with the HGG story, everyone there from the 8-year-old kid to the 80-year-old grandparent gave it a unanimous thumbs up. I am actually thinking of going to see this thing again today, it was such a joy to watch the first time! I also just picked the literature from half.com.

  30. Generation? by Jonathan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    believe it or not, but there are some people who did not grow up reading books.

    As there has always been.

    there are a generation or two, or three, of people who do not read books.

    No. If anything, books seem to be on a rebound. Twenty years ago outside of big cities the only bookstore one would likely find would be a Waldenbooks mostly selling Garfield comics. Now you can hardly throw a stone and not hit a Borders or a Barnes and Noble. And they really sell some stuff for literati -- stuff like the Loeb and I Tatti Libraries can actually be found in the sticks these days. And of course there's the bookseller Amazon.com. practically the only dot-com that didn't go belly up...

  31. Re:Why the need for a movie? by h4rm0ny · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Yes, actually. A movie can spoil a book you've previously read. A movie presents powerful images that are difficult to un-see. If I re-read Hitchhiker's and I find that I'm hearing Douglas Adams' writing in Stephen Fry's voice, then that is definitely a negative. Worst voice of guide, ever (mainly if you're British).

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  32. Re:Well... by FidelCatsro · · Score: 2, Funny

    Never one to miss an opertunity for a pun..
    This is what i get being home-sick a large ammount of TaypOs,
    Dee'ing things i DONt normaly do , Goodness there are alot i can work into one paragraph .

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  33. Re:h2g2? by slim-t · · Score: 2, Informative
    Why is it called h2g2?

    HitchHiker's Guide to the Galaxy

    HHGG -> H2G2

  34. Re:Why the need for a movie? by pla · · Score: 2, Insightful

    there are a generation or two, or three, of people who do not read books. these people go to movies. should the story be inaccessible to them?

    Put simply - Yes. Fuck 'em. If they won't take the time to pick up a book and read the story, why should they have access to it?

    And I don't mean this as a troll... The biggest complaint I see in this thread involves how poorly DA's British, intellectual, subtle style of humor, translates to the big screen. This very consistently happens with productions of decent literature (as opposed to productions of hacks who basically write screenplays in novel form), because the two mediums do NOT have totally equivalent expressive power.


    translating one form of literary culture into another form, is usually a good way to spread that culture. don't you agree?

    No, I do not.

    Movies convey information as though the viewer exists as a disembodied viewer floating through the story, observing the events that unfold. Great for action, great for "physical" comedy, great for slasher flicks and some forms of more physical horror, great for porn. Okay for drama, barely passable for "psychological" thrillers (only by making offensively frequent use of information the viewer should not fairly have, such as showing scenes of the unidentifiable bad guy torturing the little girl, when the other 99% of the movie has the observer follow Detective BadAss).

    Books, OTOH, make use of the reader's imagination. They let you inside the heads of the charaters without the need for annoying voiceovers - For that matter, a book could get away with not having a single spoken word (referring only to fiction here, of course, since nonfiction would make this a moot point).


    your self, having read the book, can't possibly think of why there is any reason whatsoever to contribute to another cultural form.

    Hello? Come back down here, friend, you've floated a bit too far out there.

    This doesn't involve cultural anthropology, it involves two mediums that most people in the modern Western world have basically equal access to (or if not, they do not by choice). Both mediums have their uses. But both do not work for every story.

    In this case, the moving-pictures-with-sound format doesn't work well to fully express the story. I would even say that about the original BBC episodes - Not bad, but not nearly as stop-reading-so-I-can-stop-laughing-and-catch-my-b reath funny as the book.


    next time you see a 9 year old, ask them if they know the answer to life, the universe, and everything.

    And after going to see this movie, they might "know" the right answer, but they won't "get" why so many of us "geeks who read" find that answer hilarious. That 9YO will roll his or her eyes, and say "what-EVER" in that dismissive tone that only 5-15YOs seem able to master.


    This has nothing to do with elitism, or with some noble idea of "making culture accessible". It involves placing something in the wrong context. The crocodile doesn't live in trees, the monkey doesn't live in the desert, and the cat doesn't live in a swamp. "format C:\" doesn't work in Linux. And HHG doesn't work on film.

  35. Making movies enjoyable again by shawb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I had heard a lot of bad stuff about this movie, so when I went to see it, I had somewhat low expectations, and they were very much surpassed.

    I don't know how many times this has happened to me. People that love the book/comic book/whatever that a movie is based on slam the movie so much that I start to believe them a little. If I do end up going to see it, I usually end up loving it. But if a movie is hyped and hyped and hyped (I'm talking grassroots hyping here... I've pretty much learned to ignore advertising) when I go to see it I'm usually underwhelmed.

    And if I go to a movie that I had heard absolutely nothing about besides "it's kinda funny, actually" or something I often end up entranced. Even if the movie isn't all that good. So I've learned to A)go on opening night B)watch a lot more "art house" style movies (except the ones trumped as "a magestic triumph of the human spirit" or something. Those are just plain boring to me. Or finally C)watch a B or C rated "horror" flick for the sheer mind-numbing entertainment.

    Not hanging around movie sites when I want to see a movie helps me enjoy movies much more. So does (Uh oh... have I just become that guy?) not really watching TV on a regular basis.

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    I'll never make that mistake again, reading the experts' opinions. - Feynman
  36. Hope I'm spoiling anything by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Funny

    Of course, if it's slapstick city I may have real trouble

    It's SlapStick Planet, actually, and literally so!
    Just a thought...ooow! ;-)

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  37. Re:I love the movie! IN 3D!! by Absentminded-Artist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I couldn't tell by your post whether you verified that part was in 3D or not. I just saw the movie last night as well and planned on bringing 3D glasses along just to test that part out. Being a 3D aficionado I suspected the hologram was because of the obvious blue and red outlines (Nice to see Simon Jones made it to the big screen (that's the TV series 'Arthur Dent' for those not steeped in HG2G lore). Would be cool if it really was in 3D. Adds to the cheese. :)

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  38. Yes, Zaphod is supposed to seem Stupid by drivers · · Score: 4, Informative
    from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Chapter 12:

    One of the major difficulties Trillian experience in her relationship with Zaphod was learning to distinguish between him pretending to be stupid just to get people off their guard, pretending to be stupid because he couldn't be bothered to think and wanted someone else to do it for him, pretending to be outrageously stupid to hide the fact that he actually didn't understand what was going on, and really being genuinely stupid.


    What the hell was with John Malkovich? Why was that scene there at all? It did nothing to advance the plot and was not in the book that I remember reading.

    He was a Jatravartid. The narrator pretty much read the first chapter of The Restaurant at the End of the Universe including the whole "in the beginning the Universe was created" bit. (I thought the Ah-choo; Bless You line was hilarious.) They obviously wanted to draw on that background matierial to create a new location and background to create an alternate plot. (Every version of H2G2 has a slightly different plot.) Of course you don't know that the whole gun thing does come into the plot in a very funny moment involving Marvin, but you wouldn't know that because you walked out of the #$@!%@ movie.

    I've heard stories about people walking out of movies. I really have to question their ability to enjoy life.
    1. Re:Yes, Zaphod is supposed to seem Stupid by fishbot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He was a Jatravartid. The narrator pretty much read the first chapter of The Restaurant at the End of the Universe including the whole "in the beginning the Universe was created" bit.

      I know _WHO_ he was supposed to be. a) It was not funny. b) It did not fit into the plot of the first book. c) It was a fucking brief and off handed reference even when it did come in to play in Restaurant.


      Hehe, I love reading these anti-reviews. I thought the movie was great. I have no idea why ANYONE thought it was remotely faithful to the books. Earth blows up; check. Arthur saved by Ford; check. Babelfish, Vogons, other periphery; check. The entire rest of the storyline... um, no. Not in any version of the book, tv series, radio show, game or towel that I've ever known.

      Anyway, onto my point and what I found amusing in your rants about Humma Kavula:

      "John Malkovich's character, a religious leader, was created especially for the movie by Douglas Adams."

      Source: http://imdb.com/title/tt0371724/trivia

      All this agro over a bit that DNA actually wrote! In fact, if you look deeper, Douglas wrote pretty much all of it. All that was left to do was the screenplay.

      I dunno. Maybe you were expecting a glorious deep story. Maybe you were expecting a visual representation of the books, verbatim, like even LOTR failed to do. Whatever, you were never gonna get it. What we did get was an amusing, madcap comedy in the Hitchhikers universe, and a load of nay-sayers who would never have been happy unless they had made it themselves. Seeing as none of you would, the point really is moot.

    2. Re:Yes, Zaphod is supposed to seem Stupid by sirket · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I know Adams wrote the damned character- the problem is that it fit so poorly into the story- it was not funny in the slightest- he looked rather stupid, etc.

      Most important of all, however, is that just because Adams wrote it does not make it funny or a good idea. Adams had a lot of bad ideas- most were discarded before being thrown in an audiences face. Unfortunately I believe Adams died before he could cull that scene or before he could rewrite it to make it interesting.

      The radio series was brilliant. The books were brilliant. The TV show was pretty good. But this? This movie was awful. Period.

      As for LOTR- I loved it. I've read just about everything Tolkien wrote and consider myself to be a fan. When I saw the movie my only complaint was that when Frodo had the ring on and was invisible it looked like a bad Photoshop effect. That was my only real complaint. I recognized the difficulty in bringing such a work to the screen. I understood just how much story there was to tell and how little time Jackson had to tell it.

      The problem with H2G2 is that it is not funny and it felt like I was watching any number of stupid Disney comedies. All it needed was Will Ferrell playing Zaphod. (Holy shit- I just read the rest of the IMDB trivia and found out that he was considered for Zaphod. Christ if that isn't damning enough I do not know what else is.)

      -sirket

  39. That behaviour is unacceptable by Scrameustache · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I walked out halfway through. [...] I rated this on IMDB and actually gave it a 1.

    What are you, a Vogon?
    You DO NOT RATE SOMETHING YOU HAVE NOT ACTUALLY SEEN!
    Sheesh.

    And BTW, there is a wonderfully hilarious moment near the end that had the Douglas Adams feel to it to an incredible degree, and you MISSED it! Don't call yourself a fan: you aren't. You're a curmudgeon, and you need to take a drink, relax, and be less callous and bad tempered.

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  40. Re:IMDB by Golias · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Meh. There are a lot of funny movies out there. "Office Space" probably being the funniest of the last ten years of so.

    If you are going to make a movie called "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy", you damn well better at least capture the spirit of the original work.

    It would have been nice if the movie could have slowed down to explain why a space traveller should keep his towel handy, rather then just make it seem like a strange fettish of Ford's, and later justify its presence by using it as a sort of weapon.

    (IIRC, the point of keeping a towel handy, among other things, is that it creates the impression that it makes it easier to borrow things like soap or a comb, because if you travel with a towel, you are obviously the sort of person who takes care of himself, but simply finds himself short a personal hygiene item or two.)

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