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Online Shoppers Aren't Impulsive

Rollie Hawk writes "When it comes to online shoppers, conventional wisdom has long been divided. Some have argued that the instant nature of shopping from home over the Internet leads to quick purchases while others have contended that easy price comparisons on the Web allow buyers to do more research first. For now, it looks like the latter camp is closer to the truth. According to a press release by ScanAlert, online shoppers are more frugal than many retailers previously thought. According to their testing, 35% take more than 12 hours to make a purchase, 21% take more than three days, and 14% take more than a week. On the average, online shoppers take 19 hours to make a purchase after the initial visit. This has some important marketing ramifications according to ScanAlert CEO Ken Leonard. "The implication to merchants is that the shopping cart is not just a convenience factor. It must be a comfort zone to shoppers. These results were not expected." In the press release, Leonard advised online sellers that "consumers abandon shopping carts with an ease that frustrates and often confuses online retailers. Retailers must understand, however, that almost half of all online purchases are from shoppers who leave a site after the first visit, and return -- even days later -- to buy.""

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  1. Where can I buy this? by Monf · · Score: 4, Funny

    Where can I buy all the press releases from ScanAlert?

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    1. Re:Where can I buy this? by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 3, Funny

      Are you sure you don't want to wait 19 hours before comitting to that?

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    2. Re:Where can I buy this? by alexhohio · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Okay, I am an anti socialite, and like to shop from home, so I think I am a qualified voice here. Define impulsive- I buy things I didn't plan on, but usually in addition to what I have been researching, for example a carrying case for what I am buying... I often abandon my shopping cart when I see exorbitant shipping charges. Other times I get put things in shopping cart just to "bookmark them" while I poke around. The important thing I think, is to have the shopping carts still full when you log back onto the site a week later. Then you can quick pull the buying trigger without refilling the cart. You must make it easy to shop- I can't count the number of times I leave a site because it is hard to navigate. (I dont want a pretty flash site, I want a quick loading easy to use site...) In order to succeed online, I thing you must have free shipping- stores can pay for the shipping with the savings from overheard of not having to have a retail outlet.

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  2. Talk about dedication by L.+VeGas · · Score: 2, Funny

    " online shoppers take 19 hours to make a purchase"

    I hope they take bathroom breaks.

  3. Duh.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you're going to wait 3-6 days to get what you ordered then you're not an impusle buyer.

    1. Re:Duh.. by kc01 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Well, not actually. If it takes that long to make a decision to buy, you're not an impulse buyer.

      The shipping of the product(s) often takes 3-6 days or more.
      In this case, a person may be an impulse buyer without a strong sense of instant gratification.

    2. Re:Duh.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      A few years ago, outpost.com (and many other sites) had free overnight shipping and no sales tax. I could get an item almost as quickly as I could by going to the store, and usually get it cheaper too. Impulse buying was pretty easy.

      Now, I usually let a bunch of items accumulate in my shopping cart at a site and then order so that I can save on shipping costs, and I don't usually bother with the fast shipping options. No more online impulse buying for me - except for songs from the iTunes store.

    3. Re:Duh.. by rkcallaghan · · Score: 3, Informative

      outpost.com also sold my email address to spammers.

      I have the paid version of Yahoo Mail which includes AddressGuard; so for every site like that I go to I can make myspamname-whatever@yahoo.com disposable addresses.

      I have about 50 active versions; I made a single purchase from outpost.com and made my email "myspamname-outpost@yahoo.com"; within a week only that one began to recieve spam. Yes, I make a concious effort as well to uncheck anything that says "we will sell you out to spammers"

      So, don't forget TINSTAAFL; that money has to come from somewhere.

      ~Rebecca

  4. Heard that before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "consumers abandon shopping carts with an ease that frustrates and often confuses online retailers"

    Given that online purchases involve a potential purchaser having to evaluate a virtual product, rather than something tangible, how can they be surprised? I'm dumbfounded that online sellers compare an eCart to a real shopping trolley. Are they off theirs?

    1. Re:Heard that before by steveg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A big factor here is that at some sites, the only way you can get a good idea of the price (and shipping charges, etc.) is to commit it to the shopping cart. I've even seen some sites that explicitly acknowlege that -- "To see the price put it in your shopping cart. You can delete it if you don't want it."

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    2. Re:Heard that before by flyingsquid · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I'm dumbfounded that online sellers compare an eCart to a real shopping trolley.

      It's less effort to fill up a virtual shopping cart, and there's no issue with just walking away from it. Nothing says I can't pull a hundred items off the shelf at Safeway and then leave my cart in the isle, but it'll get me looked at funny and I'd feel guilty about making the staff restock everything. I have no qualms with wasting the time of a computer, though. So yeah, surprise surprise, the virtual metaphor ain't like the real thing.

    3. Re:Heard that before by The+Step+Child · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Another problem is that shipping pricing isn't disclosed until you put the item into the shopping cart. Many times the rate is unexpectedly high so the customer will abandon the cart.

    4. Re:Heard that before by Smidge204 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think a good part of this is exactly that: You can't examine the object first-hand.

      Another part may be, as hinted at in TFA, easier price comparisons. I know I visit several websites looking at prices before I even put serious thought into buying it. ("Do I really need it?", etc)

      There also might be a reluctance to buy things online in general, either because they are concerned about hassles of returning items, damage during shipping, or sending their credit card info into cyberspace.

      What I would like to see is how many people do shopping on the internet, then try visiting local stores looking for the same product or comparable, and how many buy from a local store versus how many come back to the website to buy.
      =Smidge=

    5. Re:Heard that before by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Agreed, this is why I abandon a lot of shopping carts online. I really hate it when a site tries to make me jump through all the hoops of buying a product before telling me the price of the product. If you can't be up front with your price, you aren't worth my time. I've seen sites go so far as to try to get me to put in all of my shipping and payment information, before telling me a price. Forget it, I'll put up with having it in my shopping cart, but unless I'm actually going to buy the item, I'm keeping the rest of that info to myself. The same goes for registering for a site to see prices. Either let me see the prices, or piss off.

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    6. Re:Heard that before by silentbozo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "consumers abandon shopping carts with an ease that frustrates and often confuses online retailers"

      Consumers abandon shopping carts? What about when I spend an hour shopping, have to go away for a day or so, and when I come back, my shopping cart has been deleted on the server-side? Now THAT's frustrating!

    7. Re:Heard that before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      More often than not, it's not the store's fault. Manufacturers often place restrictions on how sellers can advertise their products. It's called the Minimum Advertised Price (MAP), and is used by the manufacturers to ward off down-pressure on their prices. Honestly, I'm sure the sellers would love for everyone to know that their price is way below everyone else's.

      The policy sucks, but blame the manufacturers, not the sellers.

    8. Re:Heard that before by brontus3927 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      That's why I buy computer hardware/software almost exclusively from newegg & eWiz. They have basic shipping (Express Saver for NewEgg, & Ground for eWiz) rates right on the product pages. Special items with free basic shipping are even advertised as such in search lists for NewEgg. And adding the shipping price into the amount automatically is what makes pricewatch so great.

      I think a lot of sellers are discovering that price and professionalism are two of the biggest reasons a buyer buys from them as opposed to somebody else. If your operation looks like it's a fly-by-night thing, you might get a few brave/stupid customers, but most will avoid you like the plague.

    9. Re:Heard that before by coreymetrics · · Score: 2, Funny

      The reason that ecommerce sites make you add something to your cart before you see the actual price is usually to appease the manufacturers and to get around the Minimum Advertised Price that some manufacturers impose.
      While it's nice to get shoppers to put things in their carts, it's not the main reason this tactic is employed.

    10. Re:Heard that before by dougmc · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I really hate it when a site tries to make me jump through all the hoops of buying a product before telling me the price of the product.
      Agreed, though it's a minor inconvenience, so I don't really care too much.

      What really annoys me is sites that make it impossible to determine the shipping costs. Many require that you go almost all of the way through the ordering process, often even going past the point where I enter my credit card, before I'm given any clue what the shipping will be.

      Here's a free clue for you, online retailers -- when I run into a site that doesn't tell me what shipping will be without making an order, I usually go somewhere else. If you won't tell me the shipping cost up front, my reasoning is that it probably sucks anyways. In reality, it may not, but it's not worth my time, and I'm certainly not going to enter my credit card number before I know how much I'm going to spend.

      As for complaining that people abandon shopping carts, well, we do that because we don't think of them as shopping carts. Because they're not. It's a list of items we might want to buy, stuff we're interested in. Not a list of things we are going to buy, at least not until we start checking out. And really, if a real brick and mortar store did some of the annoying tricks that online stores do to `trap' me into buying from them, I'd abandon my real shopping cart there too, though in that case somebody would have to put the stuff back so I might feel a tad guilty about it.

      Probably the best thing that an online retailer can do to encourage people to not forget about what they had in their `shopping cart' before is to make sure it persists. If we come back tomorrow or two weeks or two months later, remind us that we'd left some stuff in our `shopping cart'. Since we're not impulse buyers, if we really want something, we'll probably come back later. Don't make us find the stuff again.

    11. Re:Heard that before by noidentity · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh sure, ignore all the work the little bit people have to do when you abandon a virtual shopping cart.

    12. Re:Heard that before by wcdw · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Speaking as an on-line store player, MAPs are a tremendous pain. We http://theboyz.biz/ don't sell much Garmin, for example, even though we can often beat others prices on it.

      The reason? We're not allowed to _advertise_ that our prices are lower. That's means the Froogle feed, as well as any robots, must also see the MAP price. Even if you could get your site to display "$20 or less", all the robots would simply spot $20, and ignore the rest.

      And much on-line shopping is search-engine driven.

      It would not be *nearly* as frustrating if it wasn't trivial to go Froogle prices that are higher than ours - but lower than what we can advertise.

      We also show the real price after you add the product to your shopping cart (blocked via robots.txt for crawlers). But then again, we have a shipping cost preview from the shopping cart, too -- I *hate* having to fill out all kinds of stuff just to find out that shipping is a ripoff.

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  5. Obviously... by ajiva · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The reason shoppers take their time buying items online is because they know that a better deal is just a click away! It takes no effort to hop onto a competitor's site or a deal site to see if the same item can be found cheaper. On the other hand buying at a real shop has a lower pain threshold. It becomes very easy to say "why waste gas, time, etc I'll just buy this". Not to mention that its much harder to comparision shop, or read up on what other people think, etc.

    1. Re:Obviously... by Phisbut · · Score: 2, Insightful
      True, but 19 hours is a bit of a surprise.

      I think that 19 hours is pretty much on the spot for me. I usually browse late in the evening, looking at stuff, what I want, what I need, what I really want but don't need, etc.

      But somehow, I don't like spending money late. There might be some strange psychological explanation, or it's just the moonlight, but I don't trust myself when I'm tired and sleepy. Instead, I just sleep on it, and the next day, early afternoon, I might be more inclined to spend the money.

      Even if it's at home (or at the office during the break), it feels more "natural" to buy something during the day than during the night. I just don't have as much time to browse and compare during the day.

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  6. 19 hours? by ShaniaTwain · · Score: 2, Funny

    According to their testing, 35% take more than 12 hours to make a purchase, 21% take more than three days, and 14% take more than a week. On the average, online shoppers take 19 hours to make a purchase after the initial visit.

    WOW! they must have really slow connections. maybe they should upgrade the 300 baud modem while they're at it.

  7. eBay by kronak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The exception here is definetly eBay. By placing time restrictions on when people are able to buy items, particularly hard to find items, sellers are able to trick many buyers into believing they have to buy something.

    With other vendors however, there are so many options for where you can buy things that often you have to spend weeks just comparing prices.

    1. Re:eBay by drooling-dog · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's odd that we refer to "winning" an auction, when what we've really done is to prove that we're willing to pay more for an item than anyone else. How is that winning? Yet the psychic prize of having "won" something keeps many an auction going, I'm sure...

    2. Re:eBay by maxpublic · · Score: 3, Informative

      Crowd psychology. Despite the timers on auctions and the last-minute blitzes, you can induce people interested in the item to bid on it by doing so yourself. If you time things right and place the bid 'just so', other people who were initially waiting to bid close to the end of the auction will instead feel compelled to jump in and make a counter-bid of their own. A little social engineering and you can start a (completely nonsensical) bidding war over something that would never have reached it's ridiculous end price otherwise.

      I've done this before, just to see if it would work. It isn't at all logical, but many of the folks who frequent ebay often get excited when something like this happens and will get in on the action. I've managed to drive the price up on a selection of random items on several occasions using these tactics, and although at first I was concerned that I'd end up 'winning' something I most certainly didn't want I quickly realized the odds of that were small. If done correctly it's almost certain an over-eager easily excited bidder will hop in to claim the prize even if you drive the price up far beyond what the item would otherwise sell for.

      As far as I can tell, the 'rush' of the action seems to encourage people to bid on things they normally wouldn't, and to bid higher on things they might be interested in. Logic tells them to do one thing, but adrenaline short-circuits logic. Not unlike gambling in Vegas, I'd guess.

      Caveat: I haven't done this in a couple of years and have no idea if ebay has changed it's bidding system to discourage this sort of price jacking. If not, it's an amusing way to waste a lazy afternoon. "There's one born every minute...."

      Max

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  8. They're just too worried about the bottom line... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    to admit that all those online shopping carts aren't being cashed out because they're being used by online hoboes.

  9. Absolute rubbish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny


    my friend in Nigeria, Dr NMBAGO DSUSU assures me i should always proceed quickly with any transactions i make online, the more money the quicker i should proceed.

    this article is just FUD to put me off collecting my 25 MILLION DOLLARS

  10. Its true! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm still trying to decide which 3dfx card to get.

  11. shopping carts by Quasar1999 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I must say, I use the shopping cart at thinkgeek to make it from paycheck to paycheck... I don't have enough money to buy anything, but I pile all sorts of stuff in my shopping cart... then come payday, I purchase everything that I've accumulated over the month, then am flat broke again until next payday... but I made sure to get everything I wanted... now if only they sold food...

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  12. Makes sense by LiENUS · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This makes sense. When I worked at a phone answering job where I took orders, a lot of people would call up ask for information then hang up to order it on line. People use the Internet to order at their convenience rather than at the convenience of the seller.

  13. retailers confused? by rovingeyes · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "consumers abandon shopping carts with an ease that frustrates and often confuses online retailers"

    The reson the shoppers abandon easily is probably because of some popular techniques the online retailers use:

    • They force you to add item to cart to see the price.
    • After you add item to the cart, they tell you that you have to pay sales tax
    • After you add item to cart, you are told that there is a $20 shipping and handling fee, and finally...
    • The item is back oredered.
    Duh!
    1. Re:retailers confused? by Stevyn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Exactly. They took the simple concept of a shopping cart and couldn't even get it right. Think about when you go to a store that has shopping carts like a grocery store. You see an item on the shelves, you can look at it, examine it, compare it easily with competing products, know the exact price, and then you can decide to place it in the shopping cart.

      Now lots of online stores that use this concept of a shopping cart get it all wrong. I've found myself adding products to the cart and going 5 steps into the order process just to see what the shipping was or to see if state tax was applicable.

      The reason people are taking so long is lack of confidence. Good descriptions, large detailed pictures of the product, comparisons, and finally, exactly what it will cost. Customers don't want to get something from UPS in a week that is different from what they thought they were getting. That's why people essentially pay the risk insurance and order from places that do offer such information but at a higher price.

      Sometimes I wonder if the people running these shops have ever purchased anything online. If they have, you'd think they'd have realized this by now.

    2. Re:retailers confused? by DougInthezoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You have captured the truth perfectly.

      So, since you have this figured out so well, I've got a question for you. How do we get online sellers to see this kind of information and improve the whole online shopping experience?

      I remember what I thought was the best virtual cart... remember homegrocer.com? The cart was a live, updatable frame that was always visible and continually changed and updated, including tax (shipping and handling were NA) and easy to add/remove with a simple button click on each item. Not only that, but the items were sorted in a logical order, not just in the order you added them.

      The whole point is that the cart is not an order until you hit check out. Then it becomes a purchase order to be filled. If online stores were to only give all this information up front, they would find it easy to see how many people were just 'browsing' and how many ran away at the last minute.

    3. Re:retailers confused? by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You missed a few less common reasons:

      • You discover the enter credit card info page is not SSL.
      • The shopping cart system is broken and does not work.
      • The purchasing system uses Active X or another IE only feature and does not work in my browser.
      • The color/feature/size you want is not available or cannot be specified because that option is not presented.
  14. Why the surprise? by Lugor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The impulse buy is this thought process:
    "Wow, look at that great deal! Hmm.. I'm here and its a great price, just buy it, save a trip." or "Hmm.. I'm at the store.. what else can I buy that will save me a trip?"

    While online, its more like this:
    "Wow, look at that great deal! Hmm.. Let me think about it, I can always come back with little effort." <Bookmark URL> <Check deal every 30-60 minutes> "Hmm.. ok I'll buy it."

    Online there is no barrier of inconvience to return back to the store, therefore less of an urge to get it NOW!

  15. makes sense by drewfuss · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think it makes sense that web shoppers aren't implusive because there is no immediate satisfaction. It takes days to actually get your order. If you are impulsive you will probably want the item immediately and will probably go buy it in a real store.

  16. A fatal flaw in the study by October_30th · · Score: 5, Funny

    The study does not seem to address drunken online shopping...

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  17. Research by borgasm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I find that buying online is less impulsive because you have mountains of research to rely on.

    Lets say I see (hmmm we're on Slashdot so I'll use the computer hardware example) a new component for my rig that I absolutely must have. I'll go through many reviews first to make sure it functions, is compatible, is priced correctly, and will be a good buy.

    Now lets say I'm at the supermarket deciding between the S&S brand and a gourmet brand of food. No external input for consumption, so its more likely I'll buy the gourmet on the spot.

    I'd say from initial liking to final purchase takes me nearly 36 hours.

  18. Impulse Shopping by micromuncher · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I know that whenever I hit Amazon, I have something very specific in mind that I'm looking for that I couldn't find at a brick-and-morter. In fact, any time a BM tells me they have to special order it, I hit Amazon. I think a lot of people shop this way.

    Its the same for other web. People who search for products on the web are usually looking for something specific. This is, in my opinion, one reason why click through ads don't work. Most clicks I find totally irrelevant. Actually, in 10 years I've never voluntarily followed a banner ad.

    Seems I turn to the web more and more these days to find specialty items I know the warehouse BMs won't carry. I buy classical musically exclusively through Amazon because most of the smaller specialty retailers in my city have been put out of business by the WalMart/Costco style mega stores.

    A few years back, there were 3 classical music CD shops around. A big megachain opened, and they dedicated an entire floor to classical and lowballed all prices trying to get the volume sale. These 3 independants went under, and shortly after that, the megachain closed down/vented their classical section.

    Prolly off topic but it still bugs me.

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  19. Amazon.com is the closest to impulse by Control-Z · · Score: 3, Interesting


    Amazon.com makes it so easy to order stuff that it's dangerous to your credit card. Every once in a while I'll get on there and splurge. No filling out name, address, or credit card details. No logging in at all. They have a nice system.

    I did 90% of my Christmas shopping there last year. Take that, parking lots! Take that, crowds of shoppers!

  20. No cart retention = no business by GPLDAN · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've abandoned tech book sellers and other smaller online retilers for this very reason. I will put things in my cart on Amazon, and leave them there for weeks or months. I don't always have the discretionary cash to buy all the books and videos that I want, but I like keeping my cart around.

    Amazon does this well. If you put a used book in your cart, if that allotment of books goes away, it comes out of your cart. If an item is sold out or discontinued, it comes out of your cart. I would like even more customization, such as email notifications when things get removed from my cart, but it doesn't have that.

    This type of E-commerce sophistication should be called the Ebayzinization of the world. We want auctions, we want resale markets, and we want them organized. Companies like Amazon who do this well can create monopolization effects, such as the resale book market. A lot of book sellers hate Amazon, hate the way that they get a bite of a book transaction, on damaged or used books, and don't give them (the sellers) any concession for postage, etc. When you buy a used book from somebody on Amazon, they have nothing to do with it, except to perform a middleman and something of an indemification of the transaction. i.e. if the reseller takes your money and runs, Amazon will work with you to help you get your book.

    The key to all of this, is shopping cart power. I want to make wish lists on things I see - and rank them according to what things I would rather have. I can't remember all the things I see that I might like, my brain is not going to remember this, and I don't want to write it down. I want to walk up to a kiosk at a store at Christmas and pull my, and any of my trusted friends shopping carts up, much like wedding registries work. I want to buy a pal something he wants for Christmas, keep who it was anonymous, and be assured that it gets checked off and nobody else gets him the same thing.

    This study should serve as a catalyst for even more customization options for major E-retailers. Places like Amazon can market capture places like Crate & Barrel (just picking one from thin air), as the cost and complexity of maintaining that kind of system begins to spiral upward, these type s of places don't want to do it for themselves anymore.

  21. impulsive at first, not now. by yagu · · Score: 4, Informative

    I started out impulsive. Over time I learned more and more, found more resources, found more ways to compare and for me ultimately shopping on-line has become anything BUT impulsive.

    There are too many things to consider to allow impulsive buying to dominate:

    • cost (compared to others, but not the ultimate deciding factor)
    • reliability of product (brand names vs brand names)
    • reliability of vendor (what are the ratings?, how many ratings?)
    • genuine need (vs impulse... I've found the readily available research tools salve the impulsive beast in addition to providing useful purchasing information)

    I suspect the frustration for vendors is akin to the neurosis around "closing the deal", much like a car dealer: "Ken!, That's a Great name....! What do I gotta do to get you to drive off the lot in this car today?" But, that's just not the way it works, or should work for informed buyers. And vendors who get that, win.

    Like the article points out, I've many times shelved an item in a shopping cart to come back to it later after more research and a self-confidence in my final decision to buy (Circuit City, et. al., take note: don't cut me off on some arbitrary limit of shopping cart items... it hurts your chances (actually cost you one sale) of the final sale).

    Additionally, I've found the on-line info has made me a less impulsive Brick and Mortar shopper. There are some items I refuse (still) to purchase on-line, but that doesn't stop me from using the internet to find out as much as I can about a product before going to the store. And, I've found myself now seeing an interesting item in a Brick and Mortar, and making note of the product name/manufacture and waiting until I've researched it on the internet before buying.

    I think in some ways multiple factors are in force. One, shoppers just plain old want to be more informed about their purchase (I know, not ALL shoppers, but more and more). Two, vendors have done little to earn trust (ever try purchasing a tv lately? I couldn't believe the definitions I got from sales people when trying to explain to me: hdtv vs edtv; hdtv 720 vs 1080; hdtv i vs p; sacd vs cd; et. al.). So customers now armed with research capabilities hedge their bets and verify info from multiple sources before entering CC information.

  22. Reason I abandon MY shopping cart by Free_Trial_Thinking · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. Website is broken
    2. They just won't tell me shipping costs until it's too late
    3. Website hangs, freezes, or something doesn't work with Firefox, or my privacy/security settings.
    4. I change my mind.
    5. I get scared
    6. I lose interest
    7. The checkout process just takes way too long
    8. They want to "verify" my credit card by calling me.
    9. I have to sign an agreement.
    10. They need too much personal information.

    1. Re:Reason I abandon MY shopping cart by Anita+Coney · · Score: 4, Informative

      "They just won't tell me shipping costs until it's too late"

      That kills me every time too. But what I especially hate is those rare sites that tack on a "handling" charge at the very last minute. Before I click "buy" I want to know exactly what I'm paying.

      That's one of the great things about Newegg. They tell you what you're paying for shipping beforehand. It makes the decision so much easier.

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  23. Save for later? by Dachannien · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is where sites like Amazon that have a "save for later" feature for shopping carts are trumping other sites that only have minimal e-commerce functionality. If a customer isn't ready to buy, but can save an interesting item for easy access later, they will be more likely to come back to that merchant and make the purchase if the price is reasonable. In addition, the convenience of not having to root through the site to find the item again will improve the standing of the site in the eyes of the consumer, causing them to come back the next time they're interested in buying something.

    Honestly, it surprises me that online merchants are surprised with how consumers ditch their shopping cart contents so often, in light of the fact that Amazon has had "save for later" functionality for years now, a feature that was probably added when they realized that their customers didn't always place an order right away.

    On a side note, I like to keep one or two paperback books in my saved cart on Amazon so that when I order a DVD that's under $25, I can add the book and get free shipping.

  24. I abandond shopping carts all the time. by TheAwfulTruth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why?

    Because frequently, it's the only way to find out how much something costs! A lot of sites are pretty idiotic about their placement (or not)of their prices, though that's not new or limited to web sites :(

    A second reason is becuse you frequently have to go 90% of the way through the ordering process befiore you can find out what shipping options the company has and what they charge. That'll make or break a lot of deals.

    So as long as sites purposely or ignorantly hide the details of their pricing and shipping, I'm sure there will be thousands of people like me that abandon their shopping carts for that particular reason.

    I guess a lot of people might think twice when they see the total after shipping and (tax) and decide not to buy as well, It's nice to see a total before you are committed to buying :)

    But for me it's always because of a necessary and annoying fact finding mission that I am forced to go on on a large number of sites.

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  25. Why I abadon shopping carts by davidwr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1) I am just window shopping
    2) I'm trying the site out for convenience
    3) I'm trying the site out on behalf of someone else, and will give them a recommendation
    4) I'm using the shopping-cart to get information I can't get any other way, such as shipping costs, or to generate a total bill

    For big items, I rarely buy the first time I go to an online shop.
    If I've never heard of the store before, I typically won't shop there until I get comfortable with it, that includes trying out the shopping cart, reading all the terms, and searching the net for comments good or bad. Exceptions include hard to find items, I won't research the store as much for those, since it's unlikely I'll find a plethora of other stores to shop at if the store doesn't meet my normal standards.

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  26. Not all that surprising.. by Sandbox+Conspiracy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Given the immediate convenience online shopping provides, there is also no sense of urgency in actually purchasing the items. It's one thing to get dressed, gas up the car/truck/tank, drive to a store after which I almost feel compelled to justify having going to all that trouble by buying something. Whereas with online stores I simply don't feel the need to buy anything on a whim since if one store sells out I'm sure another will have whatever I may be looking for. There's also the amount of time taken to price compare on-the-fly which isn't nearly as convenient in actual brick and mortar stores.

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  27. Frustration by slashdot.org · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can understand that on-line sellers may get frustrated from people abandoning shopping carts, but I can think of many reasons, not just price shopping.

    First of all, I think an on-line shopping cart is more analogue to simply shopping; picking something up and putting it back down. Most real stores don't have shopping carts. But if they did, and especially if it wasn't considered rude, I think you'd see much more people putting stuff in their car and abandoning their shopping cart when they left the store.

    Then there's the issue of availability of other products. For example, I start of at Jameco and find most of the stuff I need, but then my luck runs out. So I go to DigiKey. They turn out to have everything. If there's a few dollars price difference I don't care, I'd rather order from one shop.

    Then there's the payment method. If a site supports PayPal, then I favor them, because I don't have to provide them with my CC details. I like that. Or if none of the candidates supports PayPal, I'd look which one is more reputable. Here's a hint for on-line store owners: provide goddam address information and telephone numbers. If you are trying to hide behind the anonimity of the intarweb, then why the hell would I give you my CC number?

    Now, what I get frustrated with is how little you still _can_ buy online. I have needed to order a wild variety of things lately, and as soon as you step out of the blatently obvious products, you sometimes hit a brick wall. I mean, if you don't have the infrastructure to deal with on-line sales, let someone else handle it. There's plenty of companies that are more than happy to do it for you.

    I wonder if they have any idea how much business they lose by having the 'call to talk with sales' statement. /rant

  28. They don't quite get it by RealProgrammer · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Retailers must understand, however, that almost half of all online purchases are from shoppers who leave a site after the first visit, and return -- even days later -- to buy

    First, note that this says of those who do make a purchase, almost half have gone away and come back to finish the transaction. It doesn't say that half of all people who go away will come back.

    Second, they're leaving out the fact that for many sites, putting something in your shopping cart is required in order to shop. You can't check a price at many sites without using their shopping cart.

    Contrary to what ScanAlert says ("Digital window-shopping is very popular among online shoppers..."), I think most people don't "window shop" in the traditional sense of taking inventory of what's out there.

    A lot of the time online shoppers (Ok, I) do initial investigation, get ready to buy something, and then go check elsewhere. Since many online prices are in a similar range, it's often easier to simply complete the first transaction rather than wade through another online store.

    Plus, we all have our favorite, habitual, or default online retailers.

    It may be a distinction without a difference, but I think there is a sharp contrast in purchase behavior between someone hunting down a better deal (comparison shopping) and someone seeing what is out there (window shopping).

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  29. Stupid Press Releases by mizhi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How do these numbers compare to in store purchasing habits?

    Setting aside the difficulty of measuring these kinds of things, this study doesn't say anything about whether or not online purchasers are more impulsive than brick-mortar purchasers unless there's some sort of actual, quantitative comparison.

    That said, anecdotally, I don't doubt that people are less impulsive online. When I go shopping in a physical store, I generally know what I want already and I've already done my research, but I'm much more tempted to buy something on display on a whim. Worse, because of the physical labor involved, I generally don't walk around the mall comparing prices. Online, on the other hand, I'll take weeks making a purchase in order to get the best deal and even though it's really easy to put other things in my basket, I don't find it to be nearly as tempting.

    The exception to this is iTunes. There, I'm much more impulsive. "OOoh, 80's song I haven't heard in 20 years... (click)"

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    1. Re:Stupid Press Releases by Cobralisk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The difference here is instant gratification. When you buy iTunes, you get the reward as soon as you spend the money, that's the advantage of downloadable goods (is there such a thing? lets assume an mp3 is a real object). Indeed, when I buy something at a store, I usually have it out of its packaging before I leave the store or the mall, and certainly by the time I get to the car. If I buy something online, it takes days to get here. So I better make damn well sure I want it and for the price I'm spending, otherwise its more convenient to go to the store. Its hard to be impulsive and plan to get something next week.

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  30. Shipping time by slackmaster2000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For me it's the shipping that keeps me from being impulsive online. I can't just buy something and have it in my hands instantly...I have to wait a few days to actually see it, and I know that during this time I'm pretty likely that the thrill could wear off, so I resist pretty easily. At the store it's completely different... being impulsive means instant gratification.

    Price comparison and research is definately a factor as well, but it can also be a real pain. I know there have been many times where I've spent several hours searching around just to save a couple bucks. Or I'll waste hours reading contradicting reviews. Sometimes by the time I've found the right product I just don't give a rip anymore :)

  31. Tell Me What I Want To Hear by aarmenaa · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I freqently dump my virtual carts or put them on hold and come back to them later. Often, I dump a cart because, surprise surprise, I have to put in my credit card info before seeing the total to be charged. Not on my watch.

    I understand many places calculate shipping in the cart because of combined shipping rates, and that's fine. A bit annoying, but fine. But asking me to commit before I know what I've committed to doesn't sit well.

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  32. Re:No, it's more comparible for me by ZosX · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If I pulled a hundred things off the shelf, but get too frustrated with the lines, I'm going to abandon the cart.

    Do you really do this? How much more time do you waste to go back and try again? Seriously if you have already invested even 15 minutes and the wait is 20 minutes (a long wait) and your drive was say 10 minutes, you have already wasted 35-40 minutes and accomplished nothing, only to leave and come back. So, you have wasted at least 80 minutes out of the two trips where if you stayed you could have only wasted 55 minutes and saved yourself nearly a half an hour of frustration.

    Which makes more sense?

  33. News flash folks.... by rainman_bc · · Score: 3, Informative
    Online shopping is a function of two things:
    1. Price
    2. Reputation

    We decide based on the reputation of the seller and look for the lowest price. for example, when I purchased my digital rebel last year, there was some for a really good price at Broadway Photo in New York, but they have they have a Poor rating and I walked away.

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  34. Poor Responce Form Retailers by jfmiller · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Having read all the way to the bottom of The Article, I found something interesting:
    John Halliburton, e-commerce marketing manager for Martel Brothers Performance: We're also tweaking our pay-per-click landing pages in an effort to close the sale on the initial visit.

    Kevin Beresford, president and CEO of Shari's Berries: I have to dig deeper. I want more data on how many people are buying on first visit. I need to understand why they come back and why they didn't buy the first time.
    Both these retailers were more concerned about closing the initial sale. I really think that is a wrong message to take away from these numbers. Consumers are going to shop arround. the question these retailers ought to be asking is how can we make it easier to find out we are the best offer.

    We are already seeing this type of behavior at places like priceline.com and LendingTree.com. As well as the numerous shopping engins already in on the web.

    I think that retails thought of the web as the "Home shopping network on steriods" and are having trouble swallowing the idea of the internet as the "Global Mall."

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  35. A few more thoughts for on-line vendors: by frovingslosh · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Significant and even over priced shipping shipping costs often cause buyers to wait to "put together" orders.

    Personally, if I can't determine the exact shipping cost before I give my name and address (and maybe even my credit card number), then I go elsewhere.

    If the site sets an over priced shipping cost for each item and just adds the shipping costs together if multiple items are bought (greatly inflating prices from the actual shipping cost), I'm inclined to not buy from them at all, but certainly I will not be buying a lot.

    Because buyers do shop, it is extremely helpful for both buyer and seller to have real time inventory information posted on the website and actually show the buyer how many of an item are available. More than once a vendor has lost a complete sale when I saw an item I wanted but waited until I could order some other items also, had put several items in my "cart", and then gone to add the item that I really wanted and that had induced me to buy from them, only to find that it was no longer in stock. Had I been able to see inventory numbers I might have known it was selling out and bought faster, instead I just dropped my entire combined order. Even worse are vendors who you can't tell if the item is in stock or not from an on-line website in this computer age.

    The seller who charges actual shipping costs, or even actual shipping costs plus a buck or two for costs like the box, if far more likely to gey my business and repeat business than the seller who looks at shipping as a profit center.

    Sellers who play games with shipping costs by greatly varying them for very similar size and weight items (you know who you are, Newegg) actually discourage a lot of sales. Why it costs $2.99 to ship some pcmcia cards, even $1.00 to ship some, but $5 to ship others that are on the same size box and of the same weight makes no sense at all (and even less sense if I want to buy 4 and the shipping jumps to %20).

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    1. Re:A few more thoughts for on-line vendors: by galgon · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Because buyers do shop, it is extremely helpful for both buyer and seller to have real time inventory information posted on the website and actually show the buyer how many of an item are available.

      I completely agree with you on the shipping cost problems. There is no reason for them not to tell you their shipping costs besides wanting to get more money off you at the last minute.

      Inventory information, while useful to the buyer, is something that few firms would post online. If this info was posted online then competitors could take advantage of it and use it against the company. For example, by watching a website for a few months Company A could deduce the reorder point and lead time for shipments of Company B. Then Company A could order a large amount right before the Company B would normally order screwing up the lead-time of the Company B and possibly leading to stock outs.

      Furthermore, some companies, like Amazon, dont want to tell you how many they have in stock because they use their inventory to fill the orders of their best customers first. Ever wonder why free shipping says it takes 5-9 days? They use this time to order more of a product they are running low on before they ship you your copy. They do this incase they have an overnight order come in before the stock is replenished. This allows them to keep their inventory on hand down and save the company money.

  36. ..."Sooner" doesn't always help by rhandir · · Score: 2
    The other reason is that timing when to buy is as important as what to buy.

    In the article, the president of the chocolate covered strawberry company [0]couldn't figure out why the "average waiting time for customers to return for a purchase is 15 hours"

    Well doi! Like I'm going to order chocolate covered anything in mid-June and not wonder if it's going to be a puddle of goo by the time I pick it up. What he's probably seeing is people waiting to place orders so the delivery lands on a different day (or time) of the week.

    I can't count the times I've dropped the shopping cart because the final shipping estimate put delivery while I was on vacation/at a conference/at work.

    If I could pick "deliver it after the 17th, but before the 20th" or "next available weekend", that would be great. Especially since I don't want to pay for the privelege of getting it sooner. [1] Sometimes sooner doesn't help. Sometimes expedited shipping is a bug not a feature.

    As another poster noted, Amazon recovers gracefully from that kind of thing: you don't lose your stuff. (Remember how Newegg used to have the cart on some kind of wacky timer? It's fixed now.)

    R.

    [0]"The report certainly piqued my curiosity as it was not what I expected," Beresford told the E-Commerce Times. "I have to dig deeper. I want more data on how many people are buying on first visit. I need to understand why they come back and why they didn't buy the first time." (president and CEO of Shari's Berries) from http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/ebiz/42761.htm l

    [1]Nobody really wants to pay extra for any of this. That's why Amazon's "free shipping if you order over n$" thing works so well. And why I hate the stores that use Amazon as a reseller, since those discounts don't seem to apply.

  37. Actually often not their fault by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Informative

    Many manufacturers put a Minimum Advertised Price (MAP) into effect. They tell you that you cannot advertise their product below a certian point, if you do, they'll quit selling to you. Well online stores can get around that by not advertising a price, and just having you add it to your cart. After all, they have to give you a price when it's in your cart. Others have a little thing to "get a quote".

    Sometimes it's just the stores being stupid, but often they have no choice.

    1. Re:Actually often not their fault by xenocide2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm pretty sure a MAP constitutes a fair and free trade rule of law. In fact, I seem to recall a price fixing lawsuit wherein the record industry was setting an advertised price floor, which was enforced by tying the rule to an advertising fee which offsets the retailer costs of printing circulars. In the end, the industry settled, promised not to do so again, and admitted no wrongdoing. In other words, the DA got a win, some buerocrat gets a job distributing the wealth to libraries (and subsequently get in trouble for refusing to distribute copkiller albums), the record company has to find a new way to accomplish the same goal, while the average consumer gets MAYBE a five dollar coupon off their next purchase.

      A Minimum Advertised Price is stupid, anticompetitive and hurts both the retailers selling products and the consumers buying them.

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  38. Shipping costs only available from shopping cart by stankulp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In the press release, Leonard advised online sellers that "consumers abandon shopping carts with an ease that frustrates and often confuses online retailers."

    Placing a product in the shopping cart is the only way you can find out how much the retailer is going to charge you for shipping.

    Some retailers have low product prices that they make up for with outrageously high shipping costs.

    I add shipping costs into the final cost of the product to decide where I make my purchase.

    Are these "frustrated and confused online retailers" frustrated and confused because online shoppers are wise to their scam?

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  39. Re:No, it's more comparible for me by MyLongNickName · · Score: 2, Informative

    As an individual decision, you are correct. However, if as an aggregate, a significant proportion of us behave this way, we affect change in corporate behavior. I would also say that this behavior will only have an impact if management sees that they are losing sales by understaffing checkout lines. Talk to a manager and kvetch.

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  40. make shipping costs transparent by samuel4242 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I abandoned two shopping carts yesterday. Why? Because the losers designing the websites forced me to click all the way through to the last confirmation page before telling me the shipping costs. And one of those sites was Amazon , a site that supposedly offers free shipping if you spend more than $25. But there are so many loopholes in their offer that the only way to find out the shipping cost is to click through and then abandoning the shopping cart.
    I bet 80% of the abandoned carts would never appear if the sites didn't jerk you around and force you to "check out" to check out the shipping prices.

  41. My online shopping by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The ability to compare prices and do research quickly is the big thing that stops me from impulse buying. Plus the fact that I don't feel any emotional prodding of the "Well I drove all the way out here so I might as well buy it" sort.

    My usual process is this:

    1. Check major sites' descriptions and prices (i.e. REI, Amazon, etc)

    2. Look up product reviews via Google and review sites (Toms Hardware, etc)

    3. Check similar items, if any

    4. Check prices via Froogle and Pricewatch

    5. Pick some sellers and check shipping costs on their sites

    6. Actually buy something

    Obviously this is a lot more fussing than I'd do in a brick/mortar store. I might spend weeks or months before I actually buy something.

    Pricewise shipping costs are the real killer for many online purchases. When you add in the cost of shipping the savings vs. buying it in a store frequently disappear, especially for something heavy like a monitor.

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  42. Re:about those ratings by yagu · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here's what I've noticed, and some recommendations therein....

    There are a lot of fly-by-night on-line vendors.... while there is no surefire way to pick them out, here are some of the red flags I've found:

    • company lists prices way below the rest of the competition (this falls into the category "If it seems to good to be true, it probably is...")
    • company is based in New York, especially City (as in, NYC).... (and this is only a red flag -- I've dealt with numerous NYC on-lines that were great to do business with but on the other hand the ones I've had the worst experiences with were ALL in NYC)
    • company gets 5-star rating, but only has a couple of reviews (this is really just an indicator of not enough data....)
    • company gets 4 or 5-star rating out of 5.... upon closer examination the reviews CONSISTENTLY are either all five stars or all one star.
    • high ratings in reviews consistently sound of same "voice" of author -- usually a tell tale sign they're being written by shills, usually people running the company...
    • site does not provide e-mail notification after sale is transacted (by now, you're in too deep anyway, but it's at least a sign to start doing some aggressive investigation).

    I've had a couple of near disastrous experiences and those more than anything put me in "due diligence" mode. Since then I've found that by doing reasonable research I always get good results.

    Bottom line recommendations... when you find a vendor that has done good by you... stick with them, you're likely to continue to get good results and they'll reward you for your loyalty (sometimes)... Pick well known reputable go-betweens.... they carry a big stick and set high standards for their partners -- amazon is one that comes to mind -- you're not going to find the best dollar prices through amazon, but I guarantee you amazon will followup and ensure all goes smoothly, from finalization of the transaction, to shipping and receiving the purchase on time and in good condition and reasonable return policies.

  43. Well, ...duh by beforewisdom · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Common sense reasons why online shopping would inspire fewer impulsive purchases:

    1. Even with a high speed connection buying anything online is a very deliberate act. You have to be determined. You have to look up a url and go through multiple screens. If you are in this frame of mind you have pretty much decided what you want ( & don't ) want to buy.

    2. You have to take trouble to physically go to a brick-n-mortar store. Hence the mentality to load up while you are there. Your PC/Mac is always there so if you are unsure about a purchase you always bag it and come back later.

    3. Impulse buys happen in checkout lines where you are forced to wait and stare at the impulse item they want you to buy. Not so on the web, and if they tried the customer would perceive an enforced wait or redirect as an intrusion and bag the purchase.

  44. Re:You assume all goods have same point of origin? by frovingslosh · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Its probably cheaper to ship over shorter distances, which would explain the discrepency.

    Hardly. Take the case of Newegg. The same type of item (pcmcia cards) can range in shipping cost from free to $5 per item, and if you buy several they just multiply the cost times the number you buy. But you can see the shipping cost based on which item you buy before you ever give them a destination address! In other words, the person in California pays the same shipping cost as the person in New York or North Carolina or any other state (at least of the 48 connected ones). So in this case where the item is being shipped to has no impact at all on the shipping cost, since they don't know where it is being shipped to when they quote you a fixed shipping price.

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  45. Re:No, it's more comparible for me by hawk · · Score: 3, Funny

    So you're going to spend an hour filling your cart, and abandon it because you have to wait 10 minutes,

    I've abandonded carts even after checkout. In one case, after I wrote the check to get about $10 back, and the clerk snipped, "Writing over is a privilege we reserve for our regular customers." (regular meant having their check cashing card.)

    I replied, as I tore up the check, "Selling groceries is a privilege I reserve for stores that let me write over." She didn't quite know how to react . . ./.

    hawk