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Guide for the Nintendo Fan at E3

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IGN.Cube has details on what its expected Nintendo will be showing off at E3 this year. Whether or not the Revolution gets much airtime is up in the air, but it's anticipated that new DS titles and the system itself are going to recieve the lion's share of attention. From the article: "...we predict that Nintendo will put a noticeable emphasis on its DS lineup and -- save for the new Legend of Zelda -- downplay some GameCube titles. This move seems to make sense as many of the GameCube titles sure to be on display in playable form will either have been previously shown at another event, or will be on the verge of releasing in America. In contrast, we expect several major surprises for the publisher's portable system."

76 comments

  1. Games for Adults by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It'd be nice to see some new DS games that aren't rehashes of old N64 titles or geared toward kiddies. I thought the point of the DS was to cater toward older gamers while leaving the GBA for the younger ones.

    1. Re:Games for Adults by wheany · · Score: 2, Informative

      It would be nice to see some interesting games on the DS, that have more than 10 minutes of game play.

      Waiting for Castlevania.

    2. Re:Games for Adults by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, this, more than the kiddy thing (which I don't really "get" anyway - Nintendo's real fan-base is nostalgic ex-gamers), is what I really don't like about the DS.

      I bought my DS about a week after the US launch and, to be honest, I'll wondering why. I mean, Tiger Woods Golf and Madden don't really do anything for me and even if they did, they'd be the kind of game I'd be more likely to play on a "set-top" handheld system than a hand-held anyway.

      Mario 64 DS would probably have kept me entertained if it wasn't for the fact that I'd already played the game on the N64. I mean, even if you add in the little bonus games, there just isn't enough new stuff to keep me interested. Wario Ware was a cool concept once, way back when, but these days it's feeling very tired and repetative. The driving games (NSFU2 and Asphalt) are ok, but both of them are pretty shallow by the normal standards of the genre. Plus, of course, the controls in NSFU2 feel really, really horrid.

      I've probably put in more time on my PSP in the two weeks that I've had it for than I have on the DS over several months. Lumines and Wipeout are both superb. Metal Gear Acid is... well... quirky and not quite to my tastes, but it's interesting and a decent length. Mercury is also a great concept, although it's badly in need of some kind of free-play mode. The irony is that while Nintendo get the usual props from the slash-horde for innovation, all the really innovative handheld games are on the PSP.

      I guess Nintendo could still rescue the DS, which they'll be aiming to do at E3. Ultimately, however, they're going to need to start thinking outside of the tired and predictable "new Mario Kart, new Metroid, new Zelda, nothing else of note" mode that's been setting their direction for far too long now.

    3. Re:Games for Adults by FidelCatsro · · Score: 1

      Like oh say Ridge racer DS , or Mario 64 DS . Or even Raymon 2 DS all of which are re-releases of N64 games , but they are portable forms and Mario 64 DS has alot of added content and gameplay.

      Ridge Racer DS is a fine if tricky as hell to play port that offer s a fair few hours of play , not to mention if you have any freinds with a DS the multiplayer is excelent fun.

      Raymon 2 DS , a bit of a poor port really ,but it offers a fair few hours aswell.

      I havn't played the sims breaking out for the DS , i am not a fan but i understand its a fairly lengthy title.

      Wario ware DS i really love it allows us the few seconds of gameplay , whilst still having some long term play posibility , i find myself constantly going to back to it.

      What we can expect is msot likely an inovative Castalanvia game(heres hopping)
      Advance wars DS , A new zeland game for the DS(not sure when) .
      Hopefully some inovative games ala pikimin or doshin the giant. (that game would be great with a stylus)
      And another confirmed title bound to give us a heap load of gameplay (if its your thing) is Animal crossing DS (I am really looking forward to that one).

      Thew DS already has a few very lengthy games , nothing jaw dropingly long yet but its a mobile system .I own a DS and a PSP and thing they are both great for difrent reasons , I dont expect much adult titles on the DS, for that i have my PSP (less mobile for games but alot more lengthy gaming experiances).

      But to say the DS lacks longevity in its titles is wrong , as half the current line-up have well over 10 hours play. ...
      It will be intresting to see how nintendo move forward with the DS , I do expect alot of inovative gameplay though . So heres hopping some more games get released(very small release line up unfortunatly and still only but a few games out)

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    4. Re:Games for Adults by wheany · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Like I said, there are no interesting games that have more than 10 minutes of gameplay. Ridge racer: boring, and I could get a superior version for the PSP. Rayman: boring. Wario ware: played that already on the GBA, and when I tried it at the store, it didn't feel nearly as fun as the first one felt at first.

      Advance wars sounds pretty interesting, Castlevania looks like a must-buy, as well as Metroid. Doshin the giant doesn't interest me, nor does Animal crossing.

      I bought Super Mario 64 with my DS, but I had played that on the N64 before as well. After that one game 4 months ago, there has not been one single game released for the DS that I have wanted.

      On the other hand, I bought three games with my PSP, and would have bought more, but even as it is, my Visa bill will kill me next month.

    5. Re:Games for Adults by fwitness · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Good points all. I'm most with you on the "I bought my DS and I'm wondering why" point.

      I also have both a DS and PSP, and the DS was the one I eagerly awaited. Nintendo was going to bring us an entirely 'new' portable gaming experience. Well, apart from a few ridiculously short, but good, ideas (hello Yoshi's Touch and Go, Feel the Magic) the DS has not been exciting at all.

      Indeed my PSP has been the one to give me a new portable experience, albeit not a gaming one. I now really can rely on one device for a flash drive, mp3 player, video and snapshot viewer.

      This is why Nintendo had better wait until they ramp up the DS lineup before announcing anything "Revolution"ary. Even N's biggest fans are starting to wonder. Don't give us something to point at again.

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    6. Re:Games for Adults by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      New Zealand game? I *LOVED* New Zealand Story!

    7. Re:Games for Adults by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So no intresting games with more than 10 minutes game time in your opinion , Dont you mean except Mario 64 DS.. no-one said they were new??

    8. Re:Games for Adults by wheany · · Score: 1

      Well, 1 game is very close to none, and I would have preferred to buy something new. And there have been no games released that I have been interested in in the 4 months after I bought my DS.

    9. Re:Games for Adults by FidelCatsro · · Score: 1

      The 1 game is close to 0 argument is the same logic that the universe is unpopulated (See hitchikers guide to the galaxy)::That was a joke not a troll

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    10. Re:Games for Adults by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have no idea how the hell i typ'Od that , i was infact reading an old "Your sinclair" at the time .. so i guess i must of sub conciously picked it up
      Fcat

    11. Re:Games for Adults by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem is less Nintendo's than most people would like to believe. They couldn't precisely predict that nigh on EVERY SINGLE GAME to be released over a two or three month period at the beginning of this year would get pushed back. So while we've had a dearth, Japan and Europe actually have nice lineups.

      Quite a few more games have snuck in, however, likely while you weren't looking. Polarium, Yoshi Touch and Go, and Pac-Pix are a few that come to mind offhand. The real meat starts arriving in June, however. (Another Code, Kirby, etc).

      Just a pity that Elektroplankton won't be coming out in the US as far as I know.

    12. Re:Games for Adults by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like astroturf to me.

    13. Re:Games for Adults by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now I know that peopleare going to argue that Pokemon is not a game for adults, it really is. I mean, kids can play it, but it's a very interesting turn-based RPG. I've gotten awfully sick of twitch-based games of any sort and I'm a huge fan of the pokemon games. Once DS has a "real" pokemon game (not that stupid racing game, I'm talking Diamond/Jade) I'll start taking an interest. That and Animal Crossing.

    14. Re:Games for Adults by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm still in love with T'zer...

    15. Re:Games for Adults by FidelCatsro · · Score: 1

      Pokemon rules Its a realy fun strategy/RPG/colleter game , im currently playing metal gear Acid on psp and its great too and really reminds me of pokemon for some reason

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      The only things certain in war are Propaganda and Death. You can never be sure which is which though
    16. Re:Games for Adults by shadowzero313 · · Score: 1

      http://www.thenewstribune.com/ae/story/4797515p-44 14538c.html
      It's from a local news paper here, I think it's an brilliant, and perfectly fits the DS. No subscription required, either.
      Summary: a virtual dog, pet it and stuff with the touch screen, autodetects other people playing the game and wirelessly joins and the dogs interact.

    17. Re:Games for Adults by Bret540 · · Score: 0

      Indeed my PSP has been the one to give me a new portable experience, albeit not a gaming one. I now really can rely on one device for a flash drive, mp3 player, video and snapshot viewer.

      This is what I wish my phone could do for me, for free no less. (Assuming you get the phone free by signing a contract deal.)
      When my phone can do all of this (cheaply of course, I'm sure some high end models can already in Japan), the psp has outlived its purpose as a multi-functionality device.

      Note: I'm not trying to bash the PSP, I just don't think cramming a lot of features into a portable device like it is necessary unless its my phone too.

    18. Re:Games for Adults by wheany · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it looks cute, but it's not the kind of game that I'm looking for. It really doesn't seem to have any kind of goal. I'm sure I'd spend hours playing with it, but I don't think it could keep my interest for more than week.

    19. Re:Games for Adults by BTWR · · Score: 1
      Nintendo's real fan-base is nostalgic ex-gamers

      Yep. That's right. We all just pine for the days when we could play super mario brother 2 and blaster master. That's all we do all day. Yup, that's how we think: that was the only era in which games were good.

      Oh... wait... is it me, or are five of the top 10 games on gamerankings nintendo games? Oh, and none of those 5 are NES, SNES or gameboy. Your cliche "Nintendo is T3H Kiddie!" rant is so old. Why don't you whine about "Micro$oft" or make an "In Soviet Russia" or "Beowulf Cluster" joke while you're at it.

    20. Re:Games for Adults by DeadScreenSky · · Score: 1

      So Nintendo's real fanbase is a...collection of videogame critics?

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    21. Re:Games for Adults by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It'd be nice to see some new DS games that aren't rehashes of old N64 titles or geared toward kiddies.

      Yeah, it's a good thing no one let Nintendo release a mature, adult title like Metal Gear on their handheld. God only knows they would have turned it into a kiddy card collecting game or something.

    22. Re:Games for Adults by Minced · · Score: 1

      I take it you bought an N-Gage?

    23. Re:Games for Adults by Elranzer · · Score: 1

      You forgot the "I, for one, welcome our ... overlords" joke, which a lot of people seem to have forgotten came from the Simpsons.

  2. Seriously by Ailure · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How many DS games are "N64 rehashes"? Apart from SM64DS? I don't see many, and I don't see many in "production". So I don't get it why people keep complaining about the N64 remakes when there is just one? I think there was some racing game ported from N64 too, but that's about it.

    1. Re:Seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ridge Racers DS

    2. Re:Seriously by FidelCatsro · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Mario 64 DS(still a great game with a load of addition , hell the mini games i still play long after getting my 150 stars)
      Ridge racer DS(a port of Ridge racer 64 pure and simple , alot of fun though)
      Raymon 2 DS(another n64 port, the weakest of the bunch though)

      So quite a few , im not complaining though i love having some mobile n64 games with some nice additions ,Nintendo has a strong young fanbase and their is nothing wrong with that ,so they have not yet perhaps played these games and they are great games that they would have missed out on .Also it apeals to us with nostaliga , much like many of the GBA ports of old mario games(Heres hopping for mario All stars DS , with a bucket load more mario games , i mean all of them :D up to mario 64 ).

      Its great that it has some inovative titles and some old classics to both here and on the way

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      The only things certain in war are Propaganda and Death. You can never be sure which is which though
    3. Re:Seriously by Zigg · · Score: 1

      "Quite a few"? That's three, and there's a good two dozen titles... I own ten DS games, and only one of them is an N64 port. And I love all of them.

    4. Re:Seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, Urban Asphalt is an N-Gage rehash, if that makes you feel better.

      Puyo Pop Fever is at minimum a GameCube rehash, and at worst an every-system-since-the-Genesis rehash, considering how many systems Puyo variants have appeared on.

  3. Good games are there. by sycomonkey · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't know. When I get my DS (probably this summer) the two games I know I'm picking up are Meteos and Polaris. I'm 22 and this seems to be very much the sort of thing I'm looking for in portable gaming.

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    1. Re:Good games are there. by chrismcdirty · · Score: 1

      I agree with you completely. Puzzle games have the most replayability to them. I just got my DS last week after trading in a bunch of games and I got Wario Ware. And once I have some more money, I'll be getting Polarium, then Meteos. Then possibly some other action games, but I really doubt I'll play them as much as the puzzle games.

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  4. Nintendo's out of the console biz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Nintendo's big announcement this year will be that they won't make another console. They have already signed on the dotted line with Microsoft and will make games exclusively for the next XBOX.

    Nintendo's last two consoles bombed, they wouldn't get any 3rd party support on a new one and they know they gotta focus on the area's they can still dominate - making games and handheld systems. Their reputation as a home console maker is blown at this point.

    Look at what the next XBOX does, it's as much media oriented (or more so) than it is about gaming. Nintendo doesn't want to be in that business. They don't have the resources / clout / desire to do it.

    Nintendo is doing the right thing. Focusing on gaming. Focusing on keeping their threatened handheld monopoly.

    1. Re:Nintendo's out of the console biz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Part of me suspects this is a troll, particularly given the usual response that posts like this get on slashdot. However, part of me also agrees with it.

      Development costs for new consoles and games are rising all the time. I'm not talking about the cost of manufacture here; it doesn't especially matter that MS used to lose money on every X-Box sold for the first year or two. I'm talking about the R&D costs of actually developing, marketing and rolling out a new console. The pace is being set by two companies with exceedingly deep pockets, Microsoft and Sony. Nintendo are profitable for the moment, but in any kind of long-term endurance battle, they know they couldn't hold on for long. Nintendo have already voiced frustration (and, some might say, fear) with the pace at which console cycles are progressing.

      We've also seen Nintendo's game-development suffering a lot over the last two cycles, particularly during the lifespan on the Gamecube. The fanboys may like their new Zelda/Mario/Metroid games, but ultimately there just haven't been enough games selling enough copies. My personal guess is that the price of having to constantly develop new hardware has inflicted serious damage to Nintendo's game development capability, no matter what they say in their public statements.

      As for Microsoft buying Nintendo... who knows. There's been speculation on this front for a long time, but nothing even approaching evidence of real intent on Microsoft's part. If MS did make an offer and the details were right, I suspect Nintendo would be mad to refuse it. Of course, Nintendo are an extremely "proud" company (which has been more of a problem than an asset over the last two console cycles), so who knows what they'd actually do in reality.

    2. Re:Nintendo's out of the console biz by IpalindromeI · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I realize this is a troll, but I wanted to comment on one thing:

      Look at what the next XBOX does, it's as much media oriented (or more so) than it is about gaming.

      Is anyone else annoyed by this trend? I don't want a game console/DVD player/Tivo/music station/carpet cleaner. How about individual components that each do their chosen function well intead of one that does them all poorly? Not only that, but with individual components, if one breaks, it has no effect on the others. With a merged setup, if it breaks, not only do you lose the ability to play games, you also can't watch movies or TV, you can't listen to music, and your carpet is a mess. Want to try getting it repaired? Good luck. No one except the manufacturer knows how that thing works, and they'll be charging you the price of a new one to repair it.

      Let's keep our media components separate. It makes almost everything much simpler.

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    3. Re:Nintendo's out of the console biz by Ericn484 · · Score: 1

      To a lot of people it does make a difference. Both Sony and Microsoft use DVD's as their media format. They already have all the physical equipment built into the system which are capable of doing so much more then just playing games. Why not add them, because all that it needs is some software. This could possibly give them a little more of an edge over the other side. Also, just because they have DVD and MP3 playing etc, doesnt mean that you need to use them. You can still use your componets for that...And because they didnt need to add any new hardware to add those features, its physically not making a different to the unit that is sitting next to your TV. Just pretend that they are not even there!

    4. Re:Nintendo's out of the console biz by SetupWeasel · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm not talking about the cost of manufacture here; it doesn't especially matter that MS used to lose money on every X-Box sold for the first year or two.

      They are still losing money on every XBOX sold.

      We've also seen Nintendo's game-development suffering a lot over the last two cycles, particularly during the lifespan on the Gamecube. The fanboys may like their new Zelda/Mario/Metroid games, but ultimately there just haven't been enough games selling enough copies.

      Nintendo is the second biggest game publisher in the world. Only EA sells more games. Quite a feat for a company that only markets to their own systems.

      Nintendo has billions of dollars in the bank for development. If you look at the launch of the PSP vs. the DS, Nintendo was the company prepared to pay the dough to bring more factories online when the demand was higher than expected while Sony gave everyone some line about how they had to focus on the PS2.

      Here is how the big three stack up financially:

      Microsoft: Company is on sound financial ground, but their games division continuously loses money. They have lost billions on the XBOX.

      Sony: Games division makes money, but the company on the whole is not doing well. They are set to eliminate 20,000 jobs by 2007 and hired a non-Japanese CEO which is a pretty desperate move for a Japanese company.

      Nintendo: Company as a whole is profitable. Gaming business is very profitable.

      Why would Nintendo allow themselves to be bought? Microsoft can't make money on games, and Sony is in serious trouble.

      Nintendo are profitable for the moment, but in any kind of long-term endurance battle, they know they couldn't hold on for long.

      Nintendo has been in the console business longer than Microsoft and Sony combined. They are always profitable. In fact, in the fifty years since Nintendo went public, they have only had one quarter loss.

      They HAVE endured.

    5. Re:Nintendo's out of the console biz by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Is anyone else annoyed by this trend? I don't want a game console/DVD player/Tivo/music station/carpet cleaner. How about individual components that each do their chosen function well intead of one that does them all poorly?"

      Right now on my entertainment center, I have a digital cable box, Replay, DVD Player, VCR, and a huge mess of cables. I'd love to consolidate.

      On the flip side, I have a PS2 in the other room that doubles as a DVD player. Frankly, I hate it. Once the DVD's going, it's fine. But the controls for it are awful and I keep dropping the controller onto the floor. Of COURSE the chapter controls are on the shoulder buttons, and gee, guess which hits the floor first?

      It's not the I disagree with you. I want a GAME machine. Spare me the cost of playing DVDs and using crappy media. (Argh I wish game discs came in caddies.) But I cannot ignore, however, that DVD playback is simply a software solution at this point. I don't mind convergence at that point.

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    6. Re:Nintendo's out of the console biz by webzombie · · Score: 1

      I absolutely agree... I think its a real stretch for MS to make the XBox2 into more of what they failed to succeed with the MediaPC.

      Games DON'T WATCH TV... they PLAY GAMES! Maybe Bill figures the XBox2 is going to be so revolutionary that every family will want two!

      We'll see but I think this could very well be Microsoft's hardware version of BOB!

    7. Re:Nintendo's out of the console biz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nintendo, legendary game maker, will focus on gaming rather than make another console. This comes after two successive console generations where Nintendo has given up their position in the market and therefore weakened the sales base for their one of a kind games.

      They go XBOX exclusive cause they get a big check, they sell royalty free games, they avoid all R&D costs and they don't have to work around a console launch/sales life cycle. Not to mention, they want to strike back at Sony, cause they are leveraging the Playstation dominance to enter the handheld market.
      .
      .
      . .....that's a troll? No, that's common sense or at least better business sense than Nintendo has had (post-1993).

      Nintendo is either out of the hardware (home console) biz by design or the market will hand them the slip. The market ain't going to buy a Nintendo console that competes with PS3/XB2 this generation after how the Gamecube did. It won't happen.

      Now why join up with Microsoft? Two reasons. Cause Sony is gunning for the handheld market, threatening Nintendo's current blood line (and using the PS brand dominance to leverage it). Microsoft's bank account ultimately seals the deal.

      The fact is that Microsoft owns the gaming market, unless the PS3 is phenomenal. I hope the PS3 is phenomenal, but I look at the PS2 as a lost opportunity in many ways and don't hold all that much hope for the future. Sony makes good looking devices and can market stuff, but their hardware design is only slightly better than their software. I don't hold much hope for the cell chipped PS3.

    8. Re:Nintendo's out of the console biz by Elranzer · · Score: 1

      As for Microsoft buying Nintendo... who knows.

      You do realize that Nintendo is a richer company than Microsoft, right? Just because Bill Gates is the single richest man in the world doesn't mean Microsoft is the single richest company in the world.

    9. Re:Nintendo's out of the console biz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, duh. Why do you think Hiroshi Yamauchi left the board of directors recently?

    10. Re:Nintendo's out of the console biz by brkello · · Score: 1

      No offense...I usually agree with this sort of comment, but I think you don't realize what you are saying. I want you to look down, or maybe to the side...you see that thing your keyboard is connected to? Yeah, it's a computer. You know what a console is...yeah, it's a computer to, a bit more specialized. Now take the XBOX, it adds a hard drive, now it really is a computer, just in a smaller form factor and with specific, (generally) non-interchanagble hardware components. Adding more functionally to the device simply means adding different input and adding software.

      Seriously, that's all it is. You don't hate computers, do you? You can make your computer media oriented as well. It can be a DVR, it can be a karaoke players...pretty much anything. You are trying to tell me this is a bad thing? Is the failure rate so high on computer that you just can't stand it? I hate to break it to you, but PS2s and Gamecubes break all the time. By adding a hard drive, is the chance to fail higher? Sure...but you have to look at what benefits you get.

      Look at cars. Does adding automatic door locks, windows, air bags, computers, stereos, air conditioning, etc add to the complexity? Sure as hell does, those stuff break down too. We still want it though.

      So please, integrate my components. Make it so I don't have 12 boxes sitting on top of my tv when one can do it just fine.

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    11. Re:Nintendo's out of the console biz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Computers are do-all devices marketed towards everybody. Game systems are game systems marketed towards gamers. Integrating crap isn't necesarily a bad thing, but I'd rather pay for what I'm going to use. Think of how much cheaper(and smaller) the X-Box would be if it didn't have all that useless bullshit built onto it. Also, all the bells and whistles in the world don't make up for the fact that the x-box has about two exclusive games worth playing(JSRF and Panzer Dragoon, Halo = generic FPS).

  5. E3? Honestly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    E3's just a press lovefest. And I have to wonder how much attention it would get if their admission policy were actually enforced. There's not THAT many people in the video game industry, and definitely not that many 16 year olds from the greater Los Angeles area work in the video game industry!

  6. My Nintendo E3 Wishlist by SetupWeasel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    - I want to see something to get me interested in the new Zelda.
    - Odama confirmed for release by the end of the year.
    - Confirmation of a Golden Retriever in the US release of Nintendogs.
    - Pilotwings. Please God give me Pilotwings.
    - Alpha Centauri DS online.
    - Mario Kart DS online.
    - Animal Crossing DS in August.
    - Serious Revolution eye candy to shut the haters up. (like it would work)
    - The New Tetris DS (you remember, the one from the 64. With the gold and the silver blocks. Best Tetris ever.)

    Last E3 was huge for Nintendo fans. Nintendo had promised new ideas and new thinking for years, and they finally brought it to the conference. I can only hope this year will be as exciting.

    1. Re:My Nintendo E3 Wishlist by superpulpsicle · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      While you are at it, let me give you your wishlist for nintendo revolution.

      - Pilot wings revolution
      - Alpha Centauri revolution
      - Mario Kart revolution
      - Animal Crossing revolution
      - Tetris revolution

      Just take all the games, add revolution in the end. I am a genius. Nintendo marketing should hire me. LOL.

    2. Re:My Nintendo E3 Wishlist by __aailob1448 · · Score: 1

      Just out of boredom, here's my take on your list: -Zelda is zelda. I'll buy any console just to play the game, no reviews/screenshots needed. -Odama sounds like it could be a fun weird little game but hardly something i'd lose sleep over if it gets delayed. -I don't care about Nintendogs or golden retrievers. -Ah, Pilotwings, I'd definitely like a cube Pilotwings. -Alpha Centauri ain't my kinda game so meh. Mario Kart DS online. Hell yeah! That'll get me to buy a DS. -Animal Crossing ain't my kinda game at all. double meh. -I'd like to know how the revolution is revolutionary. I don't care what haters think, I know it'll sport good enough graphics to compete. -Tetris DS? Nah, plenty of tetrises available already.

  7. Goods and Services? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Nintendo is so 1998. What have they made that was actually worth paying for since then?

    1. Re:Goods and Services? by Minced · · Score: 1

      What have they made? Well...a profit to be frank.

    2. Re:Goods and Services? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What have they made that was actually worth paying for since then?

      GBC, N64, GBA, N64, GCN, and DS.

  8. Yoshi Touch and Go by Spankophile · · Score: 1

    I bought my DS for this game. It is innovative - unique, and has a good challenge curve. It doesn't have a traditional story-mode type level progression - but the replay value is good, and hell, my wife plays it as much as I do.

    I also got Polarium, which is fun, and challenging, although a little bland.

    I can't wait for Kirby.

    I'm going to rent PacPix this week and see if it's worth picking up, since the reviews were only lukewarm.

    1. Re:Yoshi Touch and Go by neonstz · · Score: 1
      I can't wait for Kirby.
      Why wait? I got it last week. It's awesome!
    2. Re:Yoshi Touch and Go by Zigg · · Score: 1

      $35 and pick it up in a store vs. $50-$60 and wait for the shipping... I'll wait a month, thanks :-)

      Besides, I did get Pac-Pix and it's a lot of fun... plus I did also import Daigasso! Band Brothers (because the song list is gonna get changed radically, or it won't be released at all) and Electroplankton (because it won't be released here, I have no doubt)... I have plenty to keep me busy till then.

    3. Re:Yoshi Touch and Go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bought my DS for this game. It is innovative - unique, and has a good challenge curve.

      Yoshi's Touch and Go is, by far, the biggest disappointment on the DS. It game *should* have been one level or one minigame in bigger game, but instead Nintendo cranked out another lame, single-level tech demo and we all ate it up because it featured Mario characters and everyone knows that Nintendo is "innovative".

      The game sucked, it was a waste of $30. I've been consistently dismayed at the games released on the DS - not one of which is worth buying the system for (Ping Pals? Sprung?). So far, its been ports (Mario 64, Ridge Racer, Urban Asphalt, Rayman), EA sports titles (Madden, Tiger Woods), puzzle games (Polarium, Mr Driller) and mini-game titles that use the touch screen (Feel the Magic (best original DS game in my opinion), Wario Ware). Oh yeah, and crap, like Yoshi's Touch and Go.

      Seriously, Nintendo is killing us DS owners - we get what, two games a month? I mean, I'm going to get Puyo Pop Fever when it shows up in stores, but even thats a port. And whatever happened to it being for older gamers? Is that the excuse for Sprung? And if it really is for older gamers, the please explain the existence of Pokemon Dash.

      Anyway, the DS is dead already - killed not by the PSP, but by the Game Boy Evolution. Neither the DS nor the PSP are worth buying (yes, I have both) - for my money, the best games are still on the GBA.

    4. Re:Yoshi Touch and Go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot of people don't like it but I love Yoshi's Touch and Go.

    5. Re:Yoshi Touch and Go by SetupWeasel · · Score: 1

      STOP COPYING ME!

      Except for the Pac-Pix part. I rented that. But still...

      GET OUT OF MY BRAIN!

    6. Re:Yoshi Touch and Go by SetupWeasel · · Score: 1

      I have put more time into Yoshi's Touch and Go than any other title this year.

      Some people can accept something for what it is. Others are disappointed it didn't fit into the little box they made for it.

  9. Real guide for Nintendo fans for E3. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    don't bother.

  10. Just a small conspiracy theory. by AzraelKans · · Score: -1, Redundant

    Of course you have noticed that 360 and revolution means the same, what you probably havent noticed is OTHER coincidences between revolution and xbox 2. They both have an ati based graphics card They both support wi-fi They both have an interest in online gaming, (there are rumors a lot of nintendo games will be now online.) However the most interesting detail comes from an image in the site colony.org this image http://www.ourcolony.net/images/gallery/Chicago5.j pg The xbox is on top of the playstation (yeah right MS!) but why is Nintendo on another window? they dont consider it a competitor... or is it something else? AND.... How come all next gen consoles are going to be presented in may 12 and e3 except revolution (or maybe they are showing revolution?) why MTV mentioned in its original comercial "a new event, a revolution... " Some points to freak you out: Nintendo has been extremely quiet about their console. (more quiet than usual actually) MS Main intention with x2 is to capture the japanese market. which they are _certain_ to do this time. (why?) MS refused to create a handheld, even though they could have (an agreement?) N and MS had been rumored to joint forces for a project to beat sony for years. Lots of economists have mentioned it would be equally beneficial for both. Weird conspiracy theory of the year: Xbox 360 is... Revolution (or Nintendo is involved in it somehow). We will find out may 12 you may freak out now.

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    1. Re:Just a small conspiracy theory. by Minced · · Score: 1

      Actually...I really...really...am starting to like Microsoft in the gaming market and I don't know why. Generally I only smile when I play a Nintendo game but as of late I have started looking at the X-box as something I might actually BUY. The games are fairly good and although I dislike the controller, there is the S-type to use. Now, I would like to see the big N and Microsoft join forces actually. However, I don't want Nintendo becoming part of Microsoft, I would rather just see...a partnership so to speak. It would be something that could bully Sony around a wee bit I would like to think. You have Nintendo's innovation and major franchises and then you get Microsoft's enormous wallet and charisma. I can't help but smile at the thought of this happening...it just seems...good.

    2. Re:Just a small conspiracy theory. by Elranzer · · Score: 1

      Don't forget, both companies are next-door neighbors in Redmond, Washington. Just a little fuel for the conspiracy fire (which I brought up in another thread)>

      BTW I realize only Nintendo OF AMERICA is located in Redmond. Sheesh.

  11. Small Conspiracy theory by AzraelKans · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Of course you have noticed that 360 and revolution means the same, what you probably havent noticed is OTHER coincidences between revolution and xbox 2.

    They both have an ATI based graphics card
    They both support wi-fi
    They both have an interest in online gaming, (there are rumors a lot of nintendo games will be now online.)

    However the most interesting detail comes from an image in the site colony.org this image

    http://www.ourcolony.net/images/gallery/Chicago5.j pg

    The xbox is on top of the playstation (yeah right MS!) but why is Nintendo on another window? they dont consider it a competitor... or is it something else?

    AND....

    How come all next gen consoles are going to be presented in may 12 and e3 except revolution (or maybe they are showing revolution?) why MTV mentioned in its original comercial "a new event, a revolution... "

    Some extra points :

    Nintendo has been extremely quiet about their console. (more quiet than usual actually) isnt weird we know nothing about revolution a few weeks before e3?

    MS Main intention with x2 is to capture the japanese market. which they are _certain_ to do this time. (why? what makes them so sure)

    MS refused to create a handheld, even though they could have (an agreement?)

    N and MS had been rumored to joint forces for a project to beat Sony for years. Lots of economists have mentioned it would be equally beneficial for both.

    Weird conspiracy theory of the year:

    Xbox 360 is... Revolution
    (or Nintendo is involved in it somehow).

    We will find out may 12

    you may freak out now.

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    1. Re:Small Conspiracy theory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      If that happens I might have to kill someone. probably myself.

    2. Re:Small Conspiracy theory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually we know so little about Nintendo next console that anything might be true. But your conspiracy theory is simple not possible. Everybody would know by now. Lay down the crack pipe.

    3. Re:Small Conspiracy theory by Mattintosh · · Score: 1

      The dev kits for Revolution have been around since GDC. Find someone online that has access to one, and they'll likely tell you what a buddy of mine in that situation told me.

      "Revolution is a handheld. It uses disks like the Gamecube's. It might even be Gamecube compatible."

      He wouldn't elaborate any further, since he's under NDA about it (as well as everyone else at the company he works for), and he had only had about 10 minutes with the dev kit at that point (it was the day after GDC). He did say that Nintendo has no plans to release another set-top system until 2006 at the earliest. He wouldn't elaborate on how he knew that one either.

      Revolution will supposedly be released in November, just in time for the end-of-year-capitalist-orgy celebration (according to this same guy, so take it with the same salt you've been taking the rest of this).

      His first impression of the Revolution included the absolute assurance (in his mind) that the PSP had a snowball's chance in hell of competing against it, and the DS is just a decoy to bump up short term profit numbers.

    4. Re:Small Conspiracy theory by xerxesVII · · Score: 1

      See, I'm seeing something totally different in that image. Look at the neon signs.

      1. Playstation is blue.
      2. Nintendo is red.
      3. The shop is called Game One. In blue and red. No green in that sign.
      4. The open sign on the door? A blue "halo" absorbing the red lettering.
      5. That car parked in front of the store is blue, with just a little bit of red on the gas door.

      I think this picture clearly illustrates that Sony (the color blue) is going to be buying out Nintendo (the color red) and forming One Game company.

      Or maybe I'm just looking at pictures and reading way the hell too much into them.

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    5. Re:Small Conspiracy theory by SuperPunch · · Score: 1

      I noticed the blue car with red gas cover as well... you're fucking on to something.

  12. Mario 128 by DavidLeblond · · Score: 1

    I thought they were suppose to give us a teaser for Mario 128. I'm starting to wonder if that game actually exists.

    1. Re:Mario 128 by Minced · · Score: 1

      God knows Nintendo wouldn't throw millions on a Mario game and not release it. I am starting to think that they may release it on the revolution at this rate rather than on the Gamecube...unless...they release it next summer, although that seems highly unlikely.

    2. Re:Mario 128 by DavidLeblond · · Score: 1

      But then they'd have to update it to use the Revolution's nifty whatever-is-revoluationary-about-it. And by the time they finish that, the next generation machine is out...

      Next time we'll see Mario is in a holodeck! That would be nice, I could punch him whenever he said "Itsa meeee.. Marrrrio!"

  13. Nintendo & Apple? by El+Icaro · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I can't stop thinking about what would happen if apple bought nintendo...

    I am not an apple fanboy (more like a nintendo one) but when I look at the two companies I keep seeing the same features and defects. They center their software only on *their* hardware, they focus on simplicity and ease of use, and be it cheap (Gamecube, Mac Mini) or expensive (Nintendo 64 [long time ago], Power Mac) they make high quality products.

    Wouldn't it be cool playing iTunes on your stilish Revolution while you wirelessly download the game saves onto it?

    1. Re:Nintendo & Apple? by Elranzer · · Score: 1

      Interesting how the same people counting down the days to Apple's funeral are counting down the days to Nintendo's funeral. Face it everyone, neither Apple nor Nintendo are dying anytime soon.

    2. Re:Nintendo & Apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is this post a Troll? A merger is not necessarily the DEATH of a company. Many times a merger lets a company grow.

      The people marking this thread a troll must feel so strongly for these companies that it bothers them to imagine the merger? Come on.

      Apple and Nintendo would be an interesting combination. They are both brands of the highest quality, both competing against behemoths, both very niche, very original, in their own respective markets. Markets which for everyone else is cut throat, and not at all niche.

      The only way I could see this working strategically is if they were both going after the living room OS. The true convergence device - a mini-mac-gamebox (dvr/movie music download/tv-internet/hd-enabled/etc) that links to the iPod-Gameboy, sold based on the content Nintendo provides.

      The big reason this merger would NOT work is the respective companies source of vision and management is integral to what they are. Jobs couldn't work with Nintendo managment and vice-versa. Still, it's not to much to dream what these two could do together, and if you feel 'Trolled' cause someone writes this stuff, don't worry cause it won't happen.

    3. Re:Nintendo & Apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I modded it a troll because I was in a bad mood.

  14. A better idea... by LordZardoz · · Score: 1

    How about individual components that do their chosen functions well and are able to interact usefully with one another?

    I want a video player that will play videos on my TV, and that can be accessed from my computer, and that can, in turn, be accessed by my computer.

    I want a video game system that can be configured to play music other then that provided by the game (as the X-Box allows), and to be able to access music from whatever device is acting as a music server.

    Convergence in functionality is good, if it means good interoperability. Convergence in hardware is OK if the features make sense. Some overlap is not too bad either. A DVD + Digital Cable box makes sense to me (both play encoded video). A DVD + Videogame system sort of makes sense (both use the same physical media). But a Videogame + Cable box does not make much sense to me.

    Give me inteligent convergence, and I will be happy. Try to sell me a digital swiss army knife that does many things poorly, and I will just keep my money.

    END COMMUNICATION

  15. History Repeating (ie: mistakes) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like Nintendo is repeating its mistakes of the past...

    I can remember E3 (or CES?) before the N64 was unveiled, where all Nintendo had to show was Virtual Boy as it's next big thing, and a smaller form factor for the GameBoy with limited LCD color. There were no big anticipated games either, just sequels for the SNES. Meanwhile Sony was showing the Playstation and Sega showed the Saturn. Nintendo didn't unveil N64 until a year later.

    Then for the next generation, it was the same mistake. Sony showed their PS2, Sega had the Dreamcast, Nintendo had nothing (except maybe the Game Boy Advance?). I think the XBOX was shown that year as well. It wasn't until a year or two later that Nintendo finally unveiled the GameCube. It's a great system, but everybody was ready for a new console a year earlier, so alot of people made the switch to PS2. The GameCube came too late, and with too few blockbuster and mature titles.

    It's a shame to hear they will be repeating this pattern of entering the arena when the window's almost shut. I can understand being tight-lipped about innovations, but really, the tighter you hold on to something, the less people will care once you let it go.