Slashdot Mirror


Apple Patents Tablet Mac (with Photos)

jkheit writes "I wrote a quick news item over at the Mac Observer that might be of interest. Apple patents a tablet Mac. The new photos confirm that this device is a touch-screen Apple tablet. You can see it here."

94 of 565 comments (clear)

  1. Photos???? Comment + mirror by winkydink · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They are very simple illustrations, not photos.

    Would a Mac tablet ever see the light of day? This is not intended as a
    troll/flame, but how big is the market for a niche product from a niche
    computer manufacturer?

    A mirror of the photos^H^H^H^H^H^Hillustrations is here.

    --

    "I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey

  2. Wait! by RatBastard · · Score: 5, Funny

    My iBook isn't going to happy when she sees that come home with me. :(

    --
    Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
    1. Re:Wait! by BandwidthHog · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, but ski lift operators in hell will all rejoice.

      --

      Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
    2. Re:Wait! by stephenisu · · Score: 2, Funny

      Then why does it frown when something is wrong?

      --
      Sigs? We don't need no stinking sigs!
  3. Its nice... by Upaut · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It looks, should they make it, to be smaller and lighter than a "current" tablet PC. Kinda like an oversized PDA. Like a Newton and a Powerbook got freeky in the back room...

    Its so pure, I think I'm going to cry...

    Seriously though, I am hoping to see something like this in the near future. Hopefully it will be 'announced' in the next Macworld Boston. Inkwell is such a nice pice of software, it would be great to see it being used in a tablet.

    --
    3 degrees of separation from Vladimir Putin
  4. Don't be fooled! by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's actually a revolutionary new transportation system which will enable people to get about without requiring gasoline. In snow you simply stand upon it and carve your way downhill or grab a fender and glide along behind traffice. In the summer attach trucks and wheels and you've got it finished.

    --

    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  5. Correction. Illustrations not photos. by jkheit · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sorry about the misleading title. (A case of fingers before brain) There are illustrations from the patent, not photos. (Perhaps this can be corrected). Anyway, my apologies on that.

  6. Re:Correction. Illustrations not photos. by winkydink · · Score: 3, Informative

    Some of us pointed that out to the editors before it was published, but they chose to ignore us (surprise, surprise, surprise)

    --

    "I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey

  7. Don't Get Too Excited by Cr0w+T.+Trollbot · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Apple patents a lot of things which never see the light of day. It may be that their tablet implamentation has a few unique features they want to patent, but they have no real intention of bringing a TabletMac to market anytime soon. Of course, that could change if they think market conditions warrent...

    Though the pictures don't indicate this, I wonder if they could also be filling in a few final functional gaps to turn the iPod into a full-blown PDA? Tantalizing as that might be, it's probably unlikely as well, seeing as how they're making bigger margins on the iPod Photo than PDA manufacturers are making on their product...

    Crow T. Trollbot

  8. I hope this line isn't true: by alex_guy_CA · · Score: 2, Informative
    From TFA "It's important to note that being granted a design patent does not necessarily mean that Apple has any intention of releasing a particular product, and Apple has filed for many design patents in recent years for products that did not make it to market."

    I hope this is a case where thry come thru with it. It looks COOL!

  9. Re:Patent? by TheHonestTruth · · Score: 5, Informative
    It's a DESIGN patent, not a utility patent. They only have ruights to someone using that design specifically. Design patents are very easy to, pardon the pun, design around. You just have to make some ornamental change. IANADesign Patent Lawyer, so I don't know the legal standard for getting around a design patent, but from what I understand, they are more used in the clothing, accessory, and toy markets to prevent counterfeitting where looks are as improtant as function.

    -truth

    --

    I had a steady B+ in my AI class until I failed the Turing test...

  10. Re:Photos???? Comment + mirror by Ty · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ummm the mp3 market used to be a niche market. Who has about an 80% market share now?

  11. They are, check Tiger, it has built in functions by nickroethemeier · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I noticed that in Apple Quartz Composer, there is mention of a TABLET pen location. I tried this with my Wacom Graphire, and no luck. At this point, I figured that apple must be making new drivers for existing tablets. Well, I guess it's an APPLE BRAND TABLET PC!!! Whoohoo!.

  12. Re:Patent? by TheHonestTruth · · Score: 2, Insightful
    gg preview button. "They only have rights to that specifc design, or against someone making a device with that specific design," is what I meant to say.

    -truth

    --

    I had a steady B+ in my AI class until I failed the Turing test...

  13. Re:Patent? by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Like no one has ever thought of making a tablet before? There has to be more to this if it is true."

    Ya, but this is exactly what people said when Apple made the iPod.
    Apple likes to swoop on good ideas that have been poorly implemented in the past. MP3 players, jukebox software, online music stores, video chat, etc etc. None of this stuff was new, but Apple found a way to make it more accessible and desirable.

    --
    "Things are more moderner than before- bigger, and yet smaller- it's computers-- San Dimas High School football RULES!"
  14. billions? by Sean+Clifford · · Score: 2, Insightful
    >>how big is the market for a niche product >>from a niche computer manufacturer

    Billions?

    When the iPod went mainstream it ate everyone's lunch, but at first it was a niche product from a niche computer manufacturer. Now white headphones are becoming as ubiquitous as cell phones.

    I'll reserve judgement until I see an iTablet, but the general idea isn't making me all gooey inside either. Who's to say whether it'll make the light of day.

    I'd be very surprised if Apple launched an iTablet. Totally shocked if they dusted off the Newton idea.

    1. Re:billions? by dave1212 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Read the studies/reviews/etc.. there's no better UI than the iPod. Have you used one? Try it. Go on, it won't affect your closed mind.

      How about the amount of hassle required to get your music on one of those other players? MusicMatch Jukebox? WMP? RealPlayer? WinAMP? I don't think so, they all have cruddy interfaces that have not been thought out very well. Dragging music from one folder into another in Explorer has got to be the worst way to have to think about your music. You mean you can't make a playlist in your music prgram and then drag it over to your mp3 player? What's that, you need to go through folders on your hard drive until you've assembled the songs from that playlist and then drag them over in the right order that you want them to play? How sad.

      Do they play .mp4 or .aif? All my exports from the music studio are in .aif, and I rip most of my CDs to .mp4 because it sounds a bit better at the same bit rate, and takes up less space on my HD.

      We sell those other devices at the store I work at. We have sold 3 since January. We sell over 30 iPods a day. Tell me that all these people are just following a trend, that not one of them has done their homework and research to see which mp3 player is the best overall.

      Acessories? Let's see now.. what can you get for those other players? mmm.. not much, if anything. We have over 200 accessories for different models of iPod.. cases, FM stuff, camera crap, custom-designed speakers, all sorts of items that just won't work with those other players.

      Those poor other players.

    2. Re:billions? by winkydink · · Score: 3, Informative

      Now white headphones are becoming as ubiquitous as cell phones.

      In Steve Jobs' dreams perhaps. There were almost 700 million cell phones sold last year and an estimated 800-900 million this year.

      How many ipods?

      --

      "I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey

    3. Re:billions? by cosmic_0x526179 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      In Steve Jobs' dreams perhaps. There were almost 700 million cell phones sold last year and an estimated 800-900 million this year.

      The grandparent post is more correct than you give it credit for. A cellphone is used for how many minutes per hour on average... maybe 5 ? An average iPod owner probably exceeds 30 mins per hour average usage. So, if you multiply the number of iPods sold by the visibility factor the iPod is becoming ubiquitous.

      --
      This msg is brought to you by the letter 'W'.. for Worthless Wuss
    4. Re:billions? by quantaman · · Score: 2, Funny

      By your calculations, Calvin Klein thong underwear for men will soon be more popular than cell phones because its users probably wear the underwear for upwards of 14 hours a day continuous!

      The parent was referring to visibility, if you're looking at men's thong underwear 14 hours a day I think you need professional help.

      --
      I stole this Sig
    5. Re:billions? by jaydonnell · · Score: 2, Interesting

      features and an intuitive easy to use interface are two very different things.

      My grandmother (honestly) uses itunes, she could never figure out wmp and believe me I tried. Then I bought her a mac and things have been great since. She has no clue about files and folders, but she can use itunes and iphoto and she loves it.

  15. Haha... by Mac+Degger · · Score: 3, Funny

    Very funny, Jobs. And this is different from my palmpilot how, exactly? Oh, yours is bigger, you say?

    --
    -- Waht? Tehr's a preveiw buottn?
    1. Re:Haha... by passion · · Score: 2, Insightful

      umm... cuz it runs OSX?

      --
      - passion
  16. it will work this time by fermion · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Apple has some experience in this. The newton was the tablet PC that technology would allow. It was a full powered computer, with expandability and full network connections. I remember transfering files over my ethernet. I did not have to connect my Newton to my computer, only my network.

    What killed the Newton was syncronization. All the stuff I wrote on the newton was difficult to transfer to the Mac. All my contacts on the Mac was difficult to reliably syncronize to the newton. Don't tell me how to do it. I have used a newton from the day it came out until they day they kiled it. I have all the tools, cards, utilities, whatever. I still ahve 2000 sitting in it's leather case in my house.

    So, as soon as palm V came out, small, sync, everything, I was all over it. It was could not be a writing machine, but I could live with that. My Newton became more trouble than it was worth.

    But Apple now has sync, at least for what can fit on the .Mac drive. It does not sync macs, and I have found nothing that will do so quickly over 802.11b, but you can do calendars, contacts, mail, and good number of documents, which is has made my life so much easier.

    So, this tablet PC, which will have bluetooth and airport, can do what the newton never could. Be an effective remote terminal. You can carry it around for an hour or a day, and, within a few minutes, all relevent changes can be transfered. You can take it to the coffee house, sync to .Mac, and by the time you get back home, your big machine can be updated.

    Am I sorely afraid I will buy this thing. Yes. I don't really know what I would use it for, which is the rub. If it is like an iTablet, consumer priced, it would be fun to have. If it was PowerTablet, the investment would be difficult.

    --
    "She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
    1. Re:it will work this time by BTWR · · Score: 2, Insightful
      What killed the Newton was syncronization.

      Nope. what really killed Newton was 3 simple words:

      Eat... up... martha.

    2. Re:it will work this time by Khelder · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I used a Newton for years (first the original MessagePad and then the MP100). For me, the fatal flaw was that it was both too big and too small:

      * Too big to fit in my pocket so I could carry it with me everywhere
      * Too small to be able to see very much data at once

      On the plus side, the interface was amazing. It was actually designed to be used with a pen, not just a modified desktop UI.

      So now I use a Palm, because it lets me have my calendar and contact info with me all the time (as well as other stuff, of course, but the main thing I use it for is calendar and contacts). And its interface is ok.

      But I still miss my Newton. I'd love to have a Newtonesque tablet. Even one with a display the size of a steno pad would be excellent.

  17. Hush, child! by The+Amazing+Fish+Boy · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's ok, it's only a computer, and it doesn't have a personality.

    Quiet, you'll hurt it's feelings!

  18. Single mousebutton! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now I understand why they have been so stuck on 1 button!!!

    A touchpad!

    Oooohh.. Jobs was ahead of the curve all along... :-)

    1. Re:Single mousebutton! by michaeldot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Slightly sarcastic? But indeed you're right. My Tablet PC works much better with software designed with just one button in mind.

      While most tablet styluses come with a right-button in the lower half of the pen, they're often easy to accidentally press and many users like myself instead disable it and set the tablet settings to treat a TAP-AND-HOLD as a right-click.

      When you're not holding a mouse, "right-clicking" a tablet is a slower means of interacting. Software designed with one button in mind works much more efficiently and naturally.

      This is quite important, as until Tablet PC "takes off" (it hasn't by any means), most software that runs on is mainstream, non-tablet-aware software. An OS which encourages one-mouse development could have a distinct advantage.

  19. Patent RSS Feeds by stikij · · Score: 5, Informative

    Courtesy of PatentMojo.com
  20. Prior art? by Locke2005 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Doesn't this violate the Etch-a-Sketch design patent?

    --
    I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
  21. Re:Photos???? Comment + mirror by kimota · · Score: 2, Insightful

    >how big is the market for a niche product from a niche computer manufacturer?

    You mean like the iPod? Pretty big, I'd say, depending on the application.

    Steve Jobs has made comments about the iPod not lending itself to being a decent video player due to its tiny display. A tablet, on the other hand....

    --
    Who moderates the meta-moderators?
  22. Using Tiger by CypherXero · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Tiger (10.4) has a built-in feature that allows you to rotate the screen.

    Go the the System Preferences and then hold down the option key while you click the Displays button. You will see a pulldown thats labeled "Rotate". Select it and you will see your screen rotate.

    1. Re:Using Tiger by MBCook · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Don't forget this has other uses. For example you could mount your LCD on a swivel stand or on your wall in portrait mode, then use function to make the screen "right side up".

      If Apple did this, I would expect the screen to automatically rotate what is "up" based on how you hold the tablet. The little gyro in the latest PowerBooks should be enough to allow them to do that.

      --
      Comment forecast: Bits of genius surrounded by a sea of mediocrity.
    2. Re:Using Tiger by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 2, Informative

      This helps with some rotatable monitors as well as for handhelds.
      You can flip some widescreen monitors around and have a super long visible page.

      It sure is better on your eyes.

      --
      liqbase :: faster than paper
    3. Re:Using Tiger by rootofevil · · Score: 2, Informative

      definitely works on my powerbook, and is QUITE difficult to fix once youve changed it, as the option disappears and you have to quit/relaunch system preferences to get it to come back, as the mouse is now rotated and i think inverted too.

      --
      turn up the jukebox and tell me a lie
    4. Re:Using Tiger by ljaguar · · Score: 4, Informative

      it screws up the subpixel rendering though. because subpixel rendering (LCD anti-aliasing) depends on horizontal layout of red/green/blue pixels. he anti-aliasing of the font expects the red/green/blue pixel to be aligned in a certain way so draws the font in a certain way. This works fine when it's really aligned that way as expected. But if the screen is rotated 90 degrees, the algorithm screws up.

      I tried it. Other people are freaking out because they can't figure out how to revert the screen... You just restart the system preference panel and do it again. I did it and got it back fine.

      But like I said, the subpixel rendering problem is there.

    5. Re:Using Tiger by dave1212 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The option only appears on machines with a certain type of Radeon video card or higher. Your machine does not have a compatible card.

    6. Re:Using Tiger by FauxPasIII · · Score: 3, Interesting

      > it screws up the subpixel rendering though.

      Hmmm... that's rather surprising and non-Apple-like. FWIW, freetype can handle vertical subpixel AA as
      well as several different subpixel orders. Rather unusual for Apple to bork something like that up.

      --
      25% Funny, 25% Insightful, 25% Informative, 25% Troll
  23. Don't jump to any conclusions by As+Seen+On+TV · · Score: 4, Funny

    All I have to say about this is: 20030076303.

    1. Re:Don't jump to any conclusions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wow. That's a clever post. Hint: plug the number into Google.

      I feel like we're playing that "I love bees" game, and ASOTV is the AI handing out clues.

    2. Re:Don't jump to any conclusions by NickV · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yea... I see what you're saying. It seems WAAAAY to obvious (and un-Apple like) to just give something that big away in a patent without obfuscating it to hell and back (and a picture of a guy using a tablet is pretty much the opposite of obfusication.)

      That patent you refer to was clearly for the iPod clickwheel, but by phrasing all the language and diagrams as a "mouse" with a "rotary dial" you guys totally hid the real nature of the patent until it was released. Mind you, after the iPod mini's release it was pretty obvious that the patent applied to that item.

      So what you're saying is the patent is for something unrelated to a tablet... something that , once it comes out, will obviously fit that patent.

      You know what I think it is (based on your hints and other things I've read.) A remote for the Airport Express Video (the one with an integrated hardware h.263 encoder and digital video outputs for a TV) that gives you a mini iTunes-y type interface to select tv shows/episodes you bought.

      Yea... that sounds like it! It'd be very cool! (and surprising for a company run by a man who I've read hates the TV.)

    3. Re:Don't jump to any conclusions by As+Seen+On+TV · · Score: 3, Funny

      No. You should buy a PowerBook right now. Today, if possible. In fact, you should buy two. They're that good.

      Do you have any friends who might be interested in buying PowerBooks? Bring them to the store with you. You should all buy as many PowerBooks as possible.

      And while you're at it, don't forget to pick up an iPod. And one for the car!

  24. Not a sure thing by Kesh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Figures. I get to moderate for the first time in weeks, and it's a topic I really need to comment on. ;)

    That said, just because Apple has a patent doesn't mean they're going to ever build the thing. Personally, though, I hope this turns out to be the announcement at WWDC. I'd love to have a tablet Mac, just for reading places like here on the couch. My laptop is nice, but not too comfortable... though the keyboard is more useful for chat or long replies.

    It's certainly a niche design, so I could see Apple patenting a decent design that their engineers came up with even if they never build the product. That way, they can always change their mind later if the market really wants an Apple tablet.

  25. Um, no. by MadMacSkillz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Words per minute I can type: about 80 Words per minute I can handwrite: about 15 Why do I need a tablet again?

    --
    Music - www.richardmac.com
    1. Re:Um, no. by LionKimbro · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you create diagrams and explanations, tablets make a huge difference.

      When we solve the problem of incorporating images online, and when we have cheap tablets, you're going to see Wikipedia (and the rest of the web) light up with diagrammed explanations of things.

      Visual Language is going to be big and near-ubiquitous. It'll be a lot easier to learn about stuff.

      But, the pressure will be on you to make visual explanations. People will have much higher visual literacy. The knowledge in "Understanding Comics" will be near-ubiquitous- common sense. Text-only will be fogey-style.

      So, after a while, the pressure will be on to use a Tablet, or whatever the future equivalent is. Perhaps you'll just write with a stylus on a table, and the camera next to you infer where you're drawing, and use a laser to print it down for you, or something. Who knows.

    2. Re:Um, no. by Myopic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...for doing all the things that a computer can do besides typing? (don't you think this potential device would have a usb port for your keyboard?)

      wait, wait, i have an even better answer: if it has finger-touch screen technology, why couldn't you type right on the screen on a displayed keyboard? (i use one of those Fingerworks keyboards which is not so dissimilar.)

      in short, your question is myopic.

  26. i got apple tablet photos by sxtxixtxcxh · · Score: 2, Funny

    i got one right here...

    granted, it's not a high-res display, and the redraw rate really sucks, but it does come in a nice pink.

    --
    for a minute there, i lost myself...
  27. You missed the most obvious one! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    iPad.

  28. Re:Patent? by croddy · · Score: 2, Informative
    accessible... desirable? yes. patentable? no.

    this is rather like apple's patent on the itunes interface. problematic by itself, and depressing if it becomes a precedent for future patent maneuvering.

  29. Re:Photos???? Comment + mirror by JHromadka · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is obviously the PowerBook G5. Not shown is the processor, which will be incorporated into the power supply. :)

    --
    "The objective of securing the safety of Americans from crime and terror has been achieved." -- John Ashcroft
  30. Re:Patent? by themoodykid · · Score: 4, Funny

    I heard there was some guy who wrote a top ten list of his favourite activities on a pair of tablets. That's gotta be prior art!

  31. Here is what I think by MBCook · · Score: 2, Interesting
    OK. I bought a Mac in January, so here is what I think.

    First and formost, cool. I would have given it consideration, without a doubt. If Apple turned the 12" PB or iBook into a table, that would rock. Now the "doodles" (I find it hard to call them photos, and as drawings they look like basically every other tablet) don't seem to show a keyboard. I've seen pics of PC tablets that the screen can be "reversed" making it a tablet, or used like a normal laptop and I think that's a great idea.

    Now what would be REALLY cool would be to make the iBook: Touch (like the name? Come on Apple, use it!) have a touch screen (simple on/off with high resolution), but make the PowerBook: Touch even better. Whether they develop it themselves or partner with Wacom or something like that, that would rule. It would have pressure sensitivity (256 levels?) and angle sensing like the Wacom tablets. Think how great that would be for graphic artists.

    Now that might not be cheap. Mass production may help, but Wacom sells the Cintiq montitor/tablet that is 17" and 1280x1024 with 512 levels of pressure for $1799 MSRP. Maybe they'd have to make it an option. So even at 1024x768 if they cut down the resoltuion of touch (64, maybe 32 levels? And the size would be smaller, only 12") they could make it cheaper.

    It would be awesome. If anyone could make a tablet that would be great and really cause tablets to take off (instead of being the failure I've heard them called), it would be Apple.

    --
    Comment forecast: Bits of genius surrounded by a sea of mediocrity.
    1. Re:Here is what I think by totoanihilation · · Score: 4, Funny

      If Apple turned the 12" PB or iBook into a table, that would rock.

      They already have. They call it a 17" PowerBook.

    2. Re:Here is what I think by -Harlequin- · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It sounds like you're not aware that tablet PCs already use none other than wacom's pressure sensitive pen system for their screens. So the price is not as bad as you're thinking. They're already mass-produced, and official (ie optimistic) figures are that the total cost of all specialised hardware additions of a tablet PC (not just the wacom systems) add only a $200 premium to the price. (I call BS, but that's another story)

      Often however, even though the wacom digitizer in a tablet PC supports various bells and whistles, the pen supplied is low-end, and you have to buy a better pen from wacom to get some of the things that would come standard in a stand-alone wacom setup, like the pressure-sensitive eraser on other end of the pen.

      I'm an artist. Tablet PCs are already great for art, they're just not marketed at artists (plenty of scope for apple to swoop in here - no significant changes needed, just the right advertising campaign, and BAM, much like the ipod), but when it comes to art, a CRT beats LCD any day. Apple can't change that any more than MS can. However, despite the better CRT display on my wacom-equipped desktop, I find myself now prefering to use my tablet for art, because of the ability to draw onto the screen. I didn't think it would make a significant difference, but after a while, I just discovered I do prefer it.

      Actually, I do know that there were a very small number of tablet PC models that tried using a non-wacom, non-pressure sensitive digitizer, but I get the impression they died the ignoble death they deserved.

  32. You mean... by Repton · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...no one apart from Apple will be allowed to make a tablet Macintosh?

    TIHS ILLEGAL MONOPOLY MUST STOP!!!

    --
    Repton.
    They say that only an experienced wizard can do the tengu shuffle.
  33. Re:Aren't tablets expensive enough? by MBCook · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Well, tablets don't sell to well from what I've heard. If they really took off (and Apple knows how to make break-away products) the cost wouldn't be so bad. Tablets already sell at a premium (IIRC), so the "Apple Tax" may be the same so the costs would be about equal.

    Also, while Apple only has like 4% of the PC market, they have a MUCH bigger chunk of the laptop market.

    But let's face it. If Apple wants to release a niche product at a premium, the are free too. If it stays niche, then no problem. If the market explodes, it would get cheaper (economies of scale and all that).

    --
    Comment forecast: Bits of genius surrounded by a sea of mediocrity.
  34. Re:Tablet by mesach · · Score: 2, Funny

    Labtop

    I do not think that word means what you think it means.

    --
    moo.
  35. Design patents 101 by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 2, Informative
    There are basically two kinds of patent:

    Regular "new idea" patent: You have to prove that this is a new way of doing something.

    Design patent: registers a shape/style/whatever. I expect the Apple patent is one of these.

    FTFUSPTO: Definition of a Design A design consists of the visual ornamental characteristics embodied in, or applied to, an article of manufacture. Since a design is manifested in appearance, the subject matter of a design patent application may relate to the configuration or shape of an article, to the surface ornamentation applied to an article, or to the combination of configuration and surface ornamentation. A design for surface ornamentation is inseparable from the article to which it is applied and cannot exist alone. It must be a definite pattern of surface ornamentation, applied to an article of manufacture. The Patent Law provides for the granting of design patents to any person who has invented any new, original and ornamental design for an article of manufacture. A design patent protects only the appearance of the article and not its structural or utilitarian features. The principal statutes (United States Code) governing design patents are: 35 U.S.C. 171 35 U.S.C. 173 35 U.S.C. 102 35 U.S.C. 103 35 U.S.C. 112 35 U.S.C. 132 The rules (Code of Federal Regulations) pertaining to the drawing disclosure of a design patent application are: 37 CFR 1.84 37 CFR 1.152 37 CFR 1.121 The following additional rules have been referred to in this guide: 37 CFR 1.3 37 CFR 1.63 37 CFR 1.153 A copy of these laws and rules are included in the Appendix of this guide. The practice and procedures relating to design patent applications are set forth in chapter 1500 of the Manual of Examining Procedure (MPEP). Inquiries relating to the sale of the MPEP should be directed to the Superintendent of Documents, United States Government Printing Office, Washington, D.C. 20402. Telephone: 202-512-1800. Types of Designs and Modified Forms An ornamental design may be embodied in an entire article or only a portion of an article, or may be ornamentation applied to an article. If a design is directed to just surface ornamentation, it must be shown applied to an article in the drawings, and the article must be shown in broken lines, as it forms no part of the claimed design. A design patent application may only have a single claim. 37 CFR 1.153. Designs that are independent and distinct must be filed in separate applications since they cannot be supported by a single claim. Designs are independent if there is no apparent relationship between two or more articles. For example, a pair of eyeglasses and a door handle are independent articles and must be claimed in separate applications. Designs are considered distinct if they have different shapes and appearances even though they are related articles. For example, two vases having different surface ornamentation creating distinct appearances must be claimed in separate applications. However, modified forms, or embodiments of a single design concept may be filed in one application. For example, vases with only minimal configuration differences may be considered a single design concept and both embodiments may be included in a single application. An example of modified forms appears in Appendix II. The Difference Between Design and Utility Patents In general terms, a "utility patent" protects the way an article is used and works (35 U.S.C. 101), while a "design patent" protects the way an article looks (35 U.S.C. 171). Both design and utility patents may be obtained on an article if invention resides both in its utility and ornamental appearance. While utility and design patents afford legally separate protection, the utility and ornamentality of an article are not easily separable. Articles of manufacture may possess both functional and ornamental characteristics.

    --
    Engineering is the art of compromise.
  36. Re:Not even close... by mu-sly · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How about the "iPad"...?

  37. Re:Patent? by mesach · · Score: 5, Funny

    With the speed of the patent office being what it is, maybe this is a patent for the Newton, finally being granted.

    --
    moo.
  38. Re:Patent? by dave1212 · · Score: 2, Informative

    ..iPod interface, not iTunes. Get your facts straight before whining. It's a design patent. Don't make me have to explain what that is. Please.

  39. Thanks for the Newsflash a year later. by TheZ · · Score: 2, Informative
    --
    -FweE-
  40. It's a remote, damn it. by sockit2me9000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've posted this a couple of times before, but it works here as well.
    This is a remote. Or Apple's version of one. Look, apple's already said that they veiw thier media in a modular way. That's because they are a weird amalgamation of a software and hardware. This model really affects thier design in a fundamental way. They view both as feeding the other. Unlike Microsoft. Or Sony. Both of those companies don't have the (ability) (balls) (forsight) to realize that you really do benefit from doing both. That's because the new tech market is turning towards usability as it's prime selling point. Witness the iPod. But you know this.
    Now, think about the home media center. What is the primary user interface element? The remote. For all intents and purposes, the equipment has acheived a level of abstraction in our heads. What do the butttons on a TV do? Who cares? The remote can do it. My AV receiver doesn't even have all the bottons on the face. Only on the remote. And this abstraction yeilds some interesting results.
    One, that you handle your remote more times in the average day than a book or your keyes. We don't even realize how much time we spend with these damn things. They are integral. And they almost uniformly suck. How many remotes do you use? How much fumbling? Your universal remote does most things. But what about when you need to schedule and rank your DVR? The remote falls apart. The fuction is mapped to some button that is not intuitive. It's a giant mess. Sort like the MP3 market ummm.... four years ago.
    While the remote is bad at it's primary function, it falls apart completely when it comes to digital media. Enter microsoft with their assinine "Media Center PC" Why God, why? Why do you need a whole new computer in your living room? You already have a computer somewhere in your house. But Microsoft is a software company. They need to sell the software. They're trying to break out of this with the Xbox. And they will haves success. But it's a lackluster implimentation of the central problem: the remoteis the media center, see. How are people going to interact with the Xbox? With the controller and a TV monitor. This is crummy, in my mind, because if thier view of media is to add another box to the den that just happens to deal with my digital media as a second fuction, I call bullshit. Let each componant do what it is primarily good at. The Xbox controller , even if it includes that rollerball thing, still is a poor way to interact with media. It'll be good for gamers, sure. But that will color the rest of it functionality. It already has, really. See, there's no big, legible display to speak of on the damn thing. So you abstract the abstract. The Xbox took over your media and the controller takes over your Xbox, which makes you look at the tv screen as the navigation aid. I'm not sure if I can exactly explain why.... but this feels icky to me.
    So, this is where Apple steps in. The Airport express is an important clue. The idea is make a centeral computer and stream over the air the media to a router near the media center. But make the router "magic" Using, I don't know, Rendevou...err... Bonjour. Which just got released for the PC, yes? Pieces are starting to fall into place. So, what's misssing is a remote that doesn't suck for your media that can interact wirelessly with your media. Something like a big lcd touchscreen. And only like an LCD screen. Nothing else. It's the display and the input. Simple. Elegant. Getting cheap. This is a thin client, really. But it won't be marketed as such. No, it'll be the iPod for the rest of your life. It'll be your remote. It'll be your newspaper. It'll be your media manipulator (edit movies, work on garage band tracks, retouch photos). It will be your morning newspaper. It will be the thing you pick up when you put your iPod down. Think about it. All the technology is there. But it's maddening to use, especially for average consumers. They are maing a remote. They just have to be.

  41. a Mac tablet by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A MacOSX tablet would rock. Tablets may not be that exciting by themselves but with OSX? UNIX wherever you are, turn the thing into a terminal and watch videos on it streamed off your mac mini in the other room; instant on feature lets you use it to take notes at lectures; capture video with built in videocam; use your soon to be released ipod/motorola phone combo thingy as a remote control to change the channel, etc. Sure, it's all stuff you can do with a mini laptop and a TV set now but when Apple does this it will be much snappier, trust me ;)

    1. Re:a Mac tablet by mabhatter654 · · Score: 2, Informative
      part of making a Mac Tablet successful will be Apple's "stubbornness" in insisting that everything works with just a 1-button mouse. The real drawback with windows tablets is that too many programs have become hooked on using odd 2nd, 3rd, and scroll buttons with poor downward support.

      a tablet necessitates a "1-button" interface because generally it's similar to a "pointy finger" of the user. The main drawback to windows tablet right now is that key programs like office 2003 are still a terible usage kludge for "pure" tablet users... The key to the design so far looks to be the LACK of any keyboard attached...you gotta force the software developers to give up that crutch.

  42. Re:They are, check Tiger, it has built in function by drdink · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I imagine that is referring to an interface to Inkwell. Inkwell is primarily useful for users of Wacom tablets. You know, those things that let you draw with a pen? Well, Inkwell will let you use it for handwriting recognition and as a mouse as well. Inkwall has existed in OS X since Jaguar (Mac OS X 10.2). To sum it all up, this is nothing new and is no golden arrow pointing towards the amazing future of Apple tablets. Please be careful not to throw misguided bread crumbs out that the Mac rumor sites will try to build nests out of.

    --
    Beware, Nugget is watching... See?
  43. Heh by shpoffo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yea - who woudl ever buy a "niche" audio player from a "niche" computer company.

    Oh, btw, I think I heard in some recent news that Apple is going out of business

    .
    -shpoffo

  44. Re:BE CAREFUL by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny
    You're selling your mini because you don't know how to change a system preference? How about reinstalling from scratch?

    Never mind, scratch that. Can I buy your new iMac after you mess up some of the settings on that one too? It can fund your new G5 ;)

  45. Re:Okay, somebody's got to say it . . . by Beebos · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You could make a good arguement that the Newton was the original implementation of the tablet computer.

  46. The touchscreen is different from tablets by -Harlequin- · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Note that this patent is for a finger touchscreen tablet like a PDA, and my tablet has a wacom pressure-sensitive pen digitizer in the screen.

    This is interesting. A year ago, I was predicting that Apple would get on the tablet bandwagon (and possibly pull off another ipod), because tablets are so suited to art, which is ostensibly one of apples big markets. (I have a normal wacom digitizer on my desktop, but I find I prefer to use the screen digitiser of may tablet for photoshop, etc, - even though the CRT of the desktop beats any LCD on a portable).

    Yet their design is for a finger touch screen. This would make for perhaps a better interface than pen for something simple like an ebook or portable video player (a video ipod allowing you rent DRMed movies from apple :-), but not so useful as an art / design machine (my understanding is that to have both pressure-sensitive pen and finger, you would need two seperate, difference hardware systems on the screen, which would be expensive).

    I have a convertable tablet (it operates in slate and laptop mode), and my experience is that it is a vast improvement over laptops when in laptop mode, but slate mode, while kind of cool, it typically limited to low-input tasks like watching DVDs, because I type at twice the speed I write.

    So I doubt this tablet is going to be marketed as a mac. It may contain a mac, but it's going to take aim at more specialised tasks.

    Unless they stick one of those laser keyboards on it that convert any flat surface into a keyboard. It's about time someone built one of those into a slate computer.

    And now that epaper is becoming possible, ebook readers that failed to suck might be another ipod waiting to happen.

    1. Re:The touchscreen is different from tablets by HishamMuhammad · · Score: 4, Funny

      How much longer do you think we'll all be pressing a seperate button for every single letter in every word we want to express? I say rot in hell qwerty - apple give me a blue tooth headset and some new software.

      I assume you're not a programmer, huh?

      "Uh... if, open parentheses, current address... I mean, all run together with a lower-case c and upper-case a... equals equals null, all uppercase... close parentheses..."

  47. Re:Patent? by dr.badass · · Score: 3, Insightful

    this is rather like apple's patent on the itunes interface. problematic by itself, and depressing if it becomes a precedent for future patent maneuvering.

    A design patent is not quite the same as what one normally thinks of when talking about patents. Basically all this move indicates is that nobody can release a tablet that looks like what Apple would design. It's meant to prevent rip-offs, not stifle innovation. Of course, I fully expect someone to claim that rip-offs are innovative.

    --
    Don't become a regular here -- you will become retarded.
  48. Re:Photos???? Comment + mirror by dave1212 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    no, the mp3 player market faltered for a while before Apple picked up the slack.

    The tablet market has faltered for a while too, let's see what comes of it.

  49. Re:Photos???? Comment + mirror by AvantLegion · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I'd buy an Apple tablet, but only if M-m-m-m-m... m-m-m-m.... m-m-m-m-m-m-Miiicrosoft (whew that was hard to say) ported a version of OneNote to OS X.

    Damn MS and OneNote. I live by OneNote on my laptop (not even a tablet) PC, and am desperately trying to find a way to run it in Linux short of a full-blown VMWare environment...

  50. Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I wonder how long it will take Microsoft to copy this great idea...

  51. Re:They are, check Tiger, it has built in function by drdink · · Score: 4, Informative
    From Quartz Composer:
    Tablet This patch returns the current state of the tablet pointing device. The pen position is expressed in units in the Quartz Composer coordinates system. The pen tilt on the X and Y axes is normalized to the [-1.0,1.0] range and the pen pressure is normalized to the [0,1] range. Note that this patch does not read the tablet state directly but is dependent on the proper information being passed to the composition. This information may not always be available, depending on the environment in which Quartz Composer is running.
    From the ADC Reference Library:
    A tablet with a stylus is an input device that generates more accurate and detailed data than does a mouse. It enables a user to draw, write, or make selections on a touch-sensitive surface (the tablet); an application can then capture and process those movements, reflecting them in its user interface. The tablet is generally a USB device connected to a computer system and the stylus is a wireless transducer. The stylus actually can be any pointing device, such as a pen, an airbrush, or even a puck. In addition to the stylus location at any given moment, tablet devices can report many other pieces of data, such as the tilt of a pen, the rotation of a puck, and the pressure applied to the stylus. Pressure is particularly important because, with just this small piece of data, a user can tell an application to vary the thickness of a line being drawn, or its opacity, or its color. Some stylus devices also have buttons that can furnish an application with additional information. Mac OS X supports tablet devices from several manufacturers. Some of these tablets can respond to multiple pointing devices on their surfaces at the same time.
    Now, the output parameters that the Tablet patch provides in Quartz Composer are:
    • X
    • Y
    • Tilt X
    • Tilt Y
    • Pressure
    • Tip Button
    • Lower Button
    • Upper Button
    Also worth noting from the ADC Library documentation (for Cocoa) above:

    Important: Tablet events are available in Mac OS X v10.4 and later versions of the operating system.

    On a similar note, Quartz Composer showed up in Mac OS X 10.4 as well. Note the pictures in the ADC document as well. They depict a tablet connected to an iMac or Apple display. It seems to me that none of this is talking about a tablet PC. If it is, they sure went through a great deal to hide it.
    --
    Beware, Nugget is watching... See?
  52. Re:Photos???? Comment + mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Whoops! Research please!

    Apple Computer is a huge computer manufacturer. In fact, they are the 5th biggest in terms of recent US sales figures, and sales are increasing more rapidly than any other manufacturer. [Source: IDC, 4Q2004 report]

    So even though Apple only holds 3.8% of the market:

    1. Dell @ 17% of market
    2. HP, @ 16% of market
    3. IBM, @ 5% of market
    4. Gateway, @ 4% of market
    5. Apple @ 3.8% of market

    And there you have it. They may be small compared to Microsoft's 95% OS penetration, but they are large in terms of being a product manufacturer, neatly falling in the "2nd tier by volume" along with IBM and Gateway.

  53. Re:Patent? by croddy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    actually, I'm referring to their dubious patent on the iTunes software interface. and no, I don't require your explanation of design patents. they are harmful, and must be neutralized.

  54. Re:700 million ? by winkydink · · Score: 3, Informative

    I sure can.
    here

    --

    "I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey

  55. Re:Tablet by cosmo7 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Labtop

    It's the top of a labrador. Apple is going to release the top of a labrador retriever.

    Don't get the first version; it's full of bugs.

  56. Good question by putaro · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Apple actually built a prototype Mac (System 7) tablet back in the mid-90's. They got as far as the "prototype" plastics being made and did a small run for internal testing (maybe a couple of dozen?). I saw some in use in the Tokyo office in '96 where they were being used to test the (Japanese language) handwriting recognition software. They were sturdy enough for day to day use and were left in the lunchroom for employees to use (the idea was to get lots of input with different people's handwriting styles). I don't recall why the project was killed then.

  57. Re:Photos???? Comment + mirror by drsmithy · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Ummm the mp3 market used to be a niche market. Who has about an 80% market share now?

    An MP3 player is just a modern Walkman. The "Walkman market" hasn't been "niche" for about twenty years.

    "Niche" != "immature".

    The tablet PC market is niche. It's niche because its practical applications - advantageously over existing alternatives - are very small.

    MP3 players have never been a niche market. They've been am *immature and growing* market, but the idea of a "pocket music player" hasn't been a niche market since the late 70s/early 80s.

  58. let's call it... by bmeteor · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...iPad. Like a pad of paper, to draw on, to write on, read notes, and present art or view video. the name would converge with the Pages software metaphor, and of course fit in the i* naming convention.

    I can see it as a good product for kids, students,\ artists and business people having to make a presentation of any sort. The apple cool factor really appeals to all those markets, and could help the iPad over other tablet designs.

    It seems like it's a 5.5 x 8.5 design, which is exactly the same size as my note books in college, and my sketchbooks in art school. that size format is perfect for college because of the desk size in most lecture halls, and is really great for rough sketching. That's also about the size of Vintage International's novels.

    It's bigger than most PDA's but I could really see this as a huge revitalization for that market, as well as the subnotebook/tablet market. I always thought the biggest deficiency of the PDA was the lack of natural handwriting input, the small form factor, and the lack of backward software compatibility. The Subnotebook/tablet really didn't appeal to me because of the keyboards were too small (and i have small hands!), no handwriting recognition, too many hardware features and they seemed too thick for me.

    Convergence between these two categories could be a real money winner if apple tries to keep the feature set down following the success of the mini. leave out the modem, Ethernet, maybe video out, non-upgradable memory, USB, Firewire, and instead go with wifi, bluetooth, Dock connector, stereo minijack, and combo drive.

    I could see something like this come in at $749 and really start where newton left off. Newton was folded, largely because it was way before its time and it was introduced at a point in Apple's development where everything was based on creating more margin. now that they are more consumer oriented, something like this could really fly.

  59. Please sign the petition! by bhima · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Really!

    It's doubtful that Apple currently has any real intention to follow through with this.

    So Please! Encourage them a bit http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/tablet_mac/.

    --
    Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
  60. Re:Patent? by dr.badass · · Score: 4, Informative

    That is why we have trademarks.

    No, actually, it isn't. A trademark is entirely different. For example, a trademark prevents someone from putting your logo on their product, whether it looks like your product or not. A design patent prevents someone from copying the design of your product, no matter what logo they put on it.

    It is a dangerous precedent for design elements to be patentable.

    Except it isn't a precedent at all -- design patents aren't a recent thing. They were incorporated into patent law in 1842. It seems like they are among the least dangerous parts of current patent law.

    --
    Don't become a regular here -- you will become retarded.
  61. what i heard by admactanium · · Score: 2, Interesting
    from a photographer i once worked with was that the tablet was the original form factor for the newton messagepad. but the costs associated with making it in that size were prohibitive (recall the newton was already extremely expensive at he time). so they opted to go with a smaller form factor that became the newton.

    i tend to believe him because he was actually shooting a photo documentary about the invention of the newton at the time.

    1. Re:what i heard by putaro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He's correct, vis-a-vis Newton. This was not a Newton, though - this was a Mac Powerbook in tablet form. It would have been sold at the Mac pricepoint, not the Newton pricepoint. Probably the hand writing recognition never worked well enough and it wasn't feasible at the time to make a keyboard that you could stow out of the way in tablet mode.

  62. It could be by sita · · Score: 2, Interesting

    (Or, I'd wish it to be.)

    A wireless screen for the Mac mini (or other desktop). Imagine that you have a Mac with screen, keyboard and mouse on your desk. You pick up the screen, which nicely slides out of the stand that charges it, and walk away, around the office or your flat or whatever, now using the same computer as a tablet Mac. You sit down in the couch, and it is a remote control to your Airport Express.

    The screen itself has no real processing power or storage. Not more than is required to run some remote desktop client. Maybe it can serve as a remote BT hub for other peripherals (let's say a headset and a webcam, and suddenly it is a videophone).

    Maybe it can be used on its own without an owning computer, like a screen for a iPod photo or iPod video.

    Now, if they did this, a natural next would be a battery pack for the Mac mini, allowing me to have a "computer brick" in my backpack, and a really sleek tablet mac in my hand that'd punch a whole lot more power than those PC tablets.

    And no, that's not the same as a PowerBook -- anyone tried typing standing up away from a desk?

    Of course, this is all just wishful thinking, but some parts of it just might come true. Please?

  63. Re:So, in the UK this would .. Er, no. by kogs · · Score: 2, Informative
    UK Design Law 101
    1. Copyright

      Copyright can provide protection for patterns on products, e.g. the rounded white square with the central silver Apple logo on the top face of a Mac Mini.

    2. Unregistered Design Right

      This operates similar to copyright but with a much, much shorter term - up to 15 years depending on circumstances. Apple generally will not be able to protect products using unregistered design right because it is a US corporation - they may be saved if the designer is a "qualifying person", e.g. an EU citizen. US corporations do not benefit from unregistered design right because the US does not provided an equivalent right.

      There is an EU-wide version that have a term of only 3 years from first publication.

    3. Registered Designs

      These are available in UK and EU flavours and are granted by the UK Designs Registry and OHIM respectively on application. Both have a term of up to 25 years and are equivalent to US Design Patents.

      Registered designs can protect patterns and shapes but the registration may be revoked if the design fails to meet certain novelty and individuality requirements.

    The unregistered rights, namely copyright and unregistered design right, differ from registered designs in that copying must be proved in order to enforce them. For registered designs, infringement is simply a matter of whether the alleged infringing design looks sufficiently like the pictures in the registered design.

  64. Tablet Mac by skinfitz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Next up, the suppository Mac...

  65. Apple, always the innovator... err... by Aaron+England · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why innovate when you can just rip off Microsoft?

  66. The Hancock by Tipa · · Score: 2, Informative

    I worked on the O/S and some utilities for this. It was announced at an WWDC as the Hancock and was canned in favor of the Newton. It was based on a Powerbook Duo, and like the Duo, would dock into a desktop setup. I google'd someone's essay about Apple's previous tablet computers (including Hancock).

  67. Re:Photos???? Comment + mirror by trentblase · · Score: 2, Informative

    As I recall, portable CD players that would play MP3 CDs were considered the player of choice for geeks in the know. (Burned the to cd as as filesystem)