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Makers of MAKE

BoredStiff writes "An NPR show called The Connection inteviewed The Makers of MAKE. They discussed who's behind MAKE magazine, and why they think there are a lot of people out there with an interest in re-inventing with the gadgets that run our daily lives. MAKE magazine is a deliberate throw-back to the how-to science manuals of an earlier era -- back when technology wasn't so cheap people did more 'do it yourself.'"

133 comments

  1. Good magazine so far... by dafragsta · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've got my first two issues and at the very least, they are interesting. They straddle the line between pure MacGyver-ness and the kinds of things you'd find in 2600 magazine.

    1. Re:Good magazine so far... by Ryan.Latham · · Score: 1

      Yeah I really like the MAKE Magizine too and how you can make just about anything from anything. Still waiting on how to build a PC out of a tin can and a gum wrapper though.

    2. Re:Good magazine so far... by technoextreme · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Personally.... They need a book reviews. There are plenty of DIY books out there that need to be reviewed. There are probably more than the creator of this magazine actually realizes. Then again would I want slashdoter's to have plans to a DIY EMP device.(IM serious) Hmmmmm....

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    3. Re:Good magazine so far... by brickballs · · Score: 1

      Thats about the best descrption I'v heard yet

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      "You've never heard of slashdot?"
      "I know it makes websites not work."
    4. Re:Good magazine so far... by OglinTatas · · Score: 1

      Cool magazine, I also subscribe. But I want to know when they will publish plans for a DIY BatSuit?

  2. Pick your Poison by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 2, Funny

    Saturday night I'd like to MAKE my girl, but right now I cannot make ends meet.

    It's great to have a magazine dedicated to the people who want to build their own stuff. I remember carving my first spoon. Out of a bigger spoon.

    The problem is that you end up with all these little toy gadgets and nowhere to put them. I wish there was a magazine that explained how to build something that could be used to store those gadgets.

    1. Re:Pick your Poison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      They do, it's called "Finer Cabinetry and Amputations!" it's part of the mediocrity in execution series of books. You can Build some storage and get to know your medical professionals all in one fell swoop. After you have the storage space, you can then turn that old 286 with the sound card into an analog control system for automaing the opening and closing of your new cabinets since those new hooks are a pain in the butt when turning knobs.

      Oooh, and a mouse based wired remote control for the old TV in the den. Left button, channel up, right button channel down.

    2. Re:Pick your Poison by paranode · · Score: 3, Funny

      $ cd girl
      $ ./configure

      checking for car... yes
      checking for scheduling availability... yes
      checking if living with mother... no
      checking for cash... no

      **ERROR cash >2.01 not found. REQUIRED.

      $ make
      make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.

      Hrmm...

    3. Re:Pick your Poison by RikF · · Score: 1

      Much as I love 'em, Poison quotes rarely work. Unless, of course, you are trying to convince god to let you into Heaven so you can persuade martian scientists to help you build robot versions of yourselves to defeat you evil other selves.... ;o) RikF

      --
      In Soviet Russia you own your cat
    4. Re:Pick your Poison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poison quotes rarely work.

      I blame it on the age gap.

    5. Re:Pick your Poison by Frumious+Wombat · · Score: 1

      Woodsmith runs articles of that type. You'll learn how to make nicely inlaid, beveled, quality, furniture with tools that will only take up twice the space of your existing computer + gadget collection. Of course, they have articles on how to build cabinets to store the tools and wood as well.

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      the more accurate the calculations became, the more the concepts tended to vanish into thin air. R. S. Mulliken
    6. Re:Pick your Poison by Dogtanian · · Score: 4, Funny

      The solution is to make cash.so.2.0.1 a softlink to cash.so.0.0.1; this fools the installation into thinking you have greater 'cash' than you actually do.

      You'll run into compatibility problems when you start invoking the more advanced 'relationship' or 'marriage' functionality; the program will complain vociferously, but let's face it; most of us just want to play around with 'girl' for an evening or two, and then try something else. "cash.so.0.0.1" does fine, so long as you can pretend it's "cash.so.2.0.1".

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    7. Re:Pick your Poison by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

      Recalls the Steven Wright joke: "You can't have everything; where would you put it?"

      --
      Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
    8. Re:Pick your Poison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do, it's called "Finer Cabinetry and Amputations!"

      Working with power tools is no laughing matter. I always used to poke fun at Norm and his safety glasses, but one night I learned the importance of them. I was working late, trying to finish ripping a bunch of boards on the table saw. The blade guard was catching on the planks again, time for another adjustment... or I could just remove the guard. Guard removed, I was able to keep going at a nice, fast pace. Then it happened. My hand was in the wrong place as I pushed the last board through the saw. My fingers came flying off, the fleshy shrapnel struck my eyes, one, two, three times. Before I knew it, I had lost four fingers of my left hand and was blinded in one eye. If only I had worn my safety goggles!

    9. Re:Pick your Poison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Firstly, someone needs to have their sarcasm meter calibrated. Secondly, a colleague of mine lost between 1/3 and 1/2 of all the fingers on his right hand a few years back when he thought he didn't need a push stick while running the joiner so I know how dangerous power tools can be. That said, power tools can be hillarious, given that you take proper precautions.

    10. Re:Pick your Poison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was tongue in cheek, but I do remember the irony of being taught shop safety by my instructor in high school (missing two fingers), then right afterward, a student rips through a finger on the bandsaw. Yeesh.

    11. Re:Pick your Poison by skintigh2 · · Score: 1

      $ make love
      make: *** No rule to make target `love'. Stop.

  3. I've been using make for years.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In fact i'm using it to write this!

    make frist-post

  4. Get a subscription to MAKE... by eggoeater · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's an awesome mag. The amount of detail on how to build a project is fantastic, and there's lots of small projects in addition to the two or three large projects. The editors don't mince words about telling you how to hack stuff either. The latest copy had instructions to remove macrovision on certain DVD players.

    1. Re:Get a subscription to MAKE... by brickballs · · Score: 1

      I'v had my MAKE subscription since they launched. Definately a cool mag.

      mind if I borrow that sig? (it worked at least once)

      --
      "What does slashdotting mean?"
      "You've never heard of slashdot?"
      "I know it makes websites not work."
  5. But by Timesprout · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do the makers of MAKE really make MAKE or is it the content that will make MAKE? Enquiring minds want to make, I mean know.

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    What truth?
    There is no dupe
    1. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't make sense out of what you're trying to say. Please make up your mind and make your sentences more coherent.

    2. Re:But by The_Wilschon · · Score: 1

      actually, they're using gmake.

      --
      SIGSEGV caught, terminating

      wait... not that kind of sig.
  6. nice introductions by moz25 · · Score: 1

    This is the first time I'm hearing of either The Connection or MAKE. It's a bit unfortunate that there isn't a readable text there. I do have to question how an internet-based magazine expects to survive these days when the tinkerers are more likely to be on the internet anyway.

    1. Re:nice introductions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you meant _non_ internet-based magazine, right? Even though they have a website it is a paper magazine subscription only.

    2. Re:nice introductions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> I do have to question how an internet-based magazine expects to survive these days when the tinkerers are more likely to be on the internet anyway.

      Grlfg nrt ot nregalw!

    3. Re:nice introductions by moz25 · · Score: 1

      Eek. You're right. Where is that edit button... ?

    4. Re:nice introductions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would be more inclined to subscribe if is was an online magazine / electronic subscription rather than paper anyway!

  7. url to the mag by Racer+X · · Score: 4, Informative
  8. make rocks! by callipygian-showsyst · · Score: 1
    I like "make."

    I never could figure out how to use "imake". Too complicated. And remember the language Prolog that Borland tried to push!? It was really "make" in disguise.

    "make" is really what's behind all the software we use. If it weren't for "make", there would be no new Linux builds.

    1. Re:make rocks! by qray · · Score: 1

      You beat me to it. When I read the headline I thought it be interesting to find out what the makers of make were doing today.

      --
      grof domru poct oft hadram

  9. MAKE the magazine? by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 1

    You mean the one that's popular at Oregon State University and the University of South Carolina?

    Yeah, I saw a copy of one at Hooters.

  10. It may be a throwback by LetterJ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It may be a throwback, but the issues so far have still had a heavy bias toward the whole casemod/ipod/gaming end of the "making stuff" spectrum despite the fact that there are TONS of other topics that still embody the DIY attitude, many of which are actually the same ones that were part of the earlier era of DIY. A lot of those have never gone away. Heck, the whole hippie/commune/energy conservation crowd has been doing-it-themselves for a long time, building practically everything they need.

    As I've been digging to find resources for my new site (listed in my sig), I've been thrilled to discover just how many projects are out there fully-documented in arenas I've never messed in myself.

    Last night, I made a batch of plastic in my kitchen to put a USB memory key back together. I found the recipe for casein plastic online, didn't have to leave the house because all of the ingredients were already there and I had never even heard of casein plastic until I stumbled across it for site research.

    Projects like that, the little laser tripwire kit I found that can be combined with mirrors to give you the security grid shown in every bad heist movie, etc. are all over the place.

    Fortunately, it looks like, via their blog and more recent web content (like their contest to start a dead car in the middle of nowhere) that their topics may become more diverse.

    1. Re:It may be a throwback by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure exactly why you criticize Make for having a bias towards "mods" when your site seems to have nothing of content to offer at all.

      I don't mean to sound negative, I just mean to suggest that maybe you should actually develop some content of your own before you promote your site, especially when your post might be misconstrued as a suggested alternative to Make.

      I clicked through hoping to find some interesting information or tutorials, but instead I found a framework with no content.

    2. Re:It may be a throwback by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      ... the whole hippie/commune/energy conservation crowd has been doing-it-themselves for a long time...


      Don't forget the whole Slashdot crowd has been doing-it-themselves for a long time as well! Maybe someday when we can get some chicks we won't have to take matters into our own hands.
    3. Re:It may be a throwback by mspohr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've you're more interested in just making interesting stuff, Nuts and Volts http://www.nutsvolts.com/ is jammed with great projects. It comes out monthly and covers a wide range of projects. Some hacking but more of a focus on building stuff.

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    4. Re:It may be a throwback by dannyrap · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Throwback may be a very good way to describe it. 20 years ago, it was erector sets and breadboards. Making a LCD digit count from 0 to 9 was fairly impressive.


      Now, the amount of old electronics that can be reused instead of trashed is amazing...LCD panels, mp3 player, interfaces between computers and motors and sensors, video and wireless transmissions. All for mostly dirt cheap. Tinkerers can always stay ahead of corporate development, and it's way more fun.

      Danny

    5. Re:It may be a throwback by LetterJ · · Score: 1

      If I'd known 3 weeks ago that there'd be an article about MAKE, maybe I would have registered the domain more than a couple of days ago and would have started my work on the site earlier.

      I'm sorry that it isn't yet ready. I stated pretty clearly in my post that it was a *new* site and, given that my aim is to have people help out in making it (part of the "making stuff" idea, you see), that not posting at all for fear of the not-yet-finished-site offending some seemed like a wasted opportunity.

      Remember, the open source mantra of release early and release often? It fits here too. If I held the site back and worked on it only by myself until it was ready for the public, it probably wouldn't be worth doing. However, I set up the framework and am working through it myself, but am opening it up for others to help out as well.

      See, rather than just criticizing MAKE (and if you read carefully, I indicated that it looks like things are improving with regard to my complaint after only 2 issues), I had already started out with what I see as part of the solution.

    6. Re:It may be a throwback by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the fuck does your iPod have anything to do with "making stuff"?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    7. Re:It may be a throwback by LetterJ · · Score: 1

      I had that site in my list to go through, but last night was getting a DNS error. Not sure if I mistyped or there geniunely was a problem, but I'll look again.

    8. Re:It may be a throwback by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You posted your own answer. The chicks are in the hippie/commune/energy conservation crowd.

    9. Re:It may be a throwback by LetterJ · · Score: 1

      "What the fuck does your iPod have anything to do with "making stuff"?"

      I'm not saying it does. However, MAKE and tons of "hacking" sites spend 25%-50% of their time on modifying iPods or making things for them.

      And, there is no "my" iPod as I don't have one.

    10. Re:It may be a throwback by ReadParse · · Score: 1

      the issues so far have still had a heavy bias toward the whole casemod/ipod/gaming end

      They're only on the second issue. I have the first one and the feature story was about making a camera rig to hang from a kite. And the second most detailed story, as I recall, was the camera stabilizer that was featured on slashdot many months ago.

      My point is that neither of these are computer-centric at all. They're the kind of traditional DIY projects that geeks of all sorts can sink their teeth into. I think they also got into the backyard monorail thing and, yeah, there was some computer stuff bunched together in the back, mostly OS X in nature, which I found interesting.

      RP

  11. Scientific American's Amateur Scientist by G4from128k · · Score: 3, Informative

    Scientific American's Amateur Scientist has always had interesting things to make. The older columns (from before the age of lawsuits) featured more exciting things such a a 6-foot homemade rocket, atom smasher, and 20 W CO2 laser.

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    1. Re:Scientific American's Amateur Scientist by Cyclotron_Boy · · Score: 1

      You know, you can purchase every Amateur Scientist column ever on CDROM now? And don't forget some of my favorites from the Amateur Scientist column: a homemade atom smasher (a 300keV electrostatic linear accelerator), a homebuilt cyclotron (lacking plans), all manner of cloud and bubble chambers for particle detection, a gel electrophoresis setup, a CuBr pulsed laser, a 100kW-1MW pulsed Nitrogen laser, etc. The list goes on and on. Shawn Carlson, where are you now?

    2. Re:Scientific American's Amateur Scientist by north.coaster · · Score: 1

      Anybody else remember the series of AS articles about polywater. I'm sure that a lot of people tried to make the stuff before it was found that it did not exist.

    3. Re:Scientific American's Amateur Scientist by SteveAstro · · Score: 1

      Shawn run SAS http://www.sas.org/

      Steve

  12. This reminds me by marat · · Score: 1

    Two AIXoids:
    - Know how they call 'root' in OS/400 lab?
    - How?
    - ROOT!

  13. Why pay? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I cannot justify paying for a subscription to a magazine full of information I can easily acquire on the web. Perhaps I am missing something but I just do not see the point.

    1. Re:Why pay? by KFW · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure, you probably could find the info in any of these articles if you looked on the web. But would you have looked? The topics are eclectic, many covering things I'll never build, but it's interesting to read about what others are into. And I like having a physical book. I can read it when I'm at lunch or in a waiting room. I'm looking forward to being a long-time subscriber. I hope it does well. /K

    2. Re:Why pay? by Noksagt · · Score: 1

      The same can be said of ANY magazine subscription. Why buy playboy when there is free pr0n to be had?

      Like playboy, you get editorial quality & some amount of community built up around the for-profit publication. Also like Playboy, you're also paying for a regular dose of what you like to peruse & for nicely bound dead trees which are useful to have on hand when you're actually trying to accomplish the task at hand.

    3. Re:Why pay? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also like Playboy, you're also paying for ... nicely bound dead trees which are useful to have on hand when you're actually trying to accomplish the task at hand.

      I agree. Playboy is useful "when you're actually trying to accomplish the task at hand" :)

  14. my inlaws by udderly · · Score: 4, Funny

    The inherent DIY-ness of the 'Makers of MAKE' reminds me of my in-laws. With them (in-laws), they have a genetic predisposition which makes them have to do every task themselves, no matter how ridiculously hard and non-cost-efficient.

    When he sliced open his leg, my brother-in-law was totally incensed because Walgreen's didn't sell a home suture kit (you think that I'm kidding, but I'm not). I was really scared when my wife decided that she need Lasik eye surgery and began looking at lasers on ebay and googling 'home eye surgery how to.'

    1. Re:my inlaws by trongey · · Score: 1

      Wow! That's awesome. If I weren't already married I'd be asking if your wife has a sister.

      My wife and her family are big DIYers, as is mine, but these people sound like DIY gods.

      --
      You never really know how close to the edge you can go until you fall off.
    2. Re:my inlaws by trongey · · Score: 1

      BTW: Any fabric store has darning needles and silk thread, but super glue is a lot quicker and easier.

      --
      You never really know how close to the edge you can go until you fall off.
    3. Re:my inlaws by presidentnixon · · Score: 1

      Do not look into laser with remaining good eye!!

    4. Re:my inlaws by OglinTatas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You may be joking about the home suture, but In my younger days, I had successfully sealed a few slices and gashes with superglue or regular sports tape. No major vessels were compromised, so it wasn't all that spectacular. But in fact, surgeons use a version of superglue for their non-suture sutures. It is available to the home user under the brands dermabond or liquid bandage.

      I used to be a DIY type, making homebrew beer, DIY beer coolers, DIY fish "pond" (in my dorm room) with DIY biological filter, etc. Several years after college if finally occured to me that what I made was invariably more expensive, less effective/efficient, bigger and just plain uglier than the commercially produced equivalents. And so I quit. (I still subscribed to MAKE when it was first published)

      I think the point of DIY is being creative in solving problems, to be inventive, to have a sense of accomplishment when something is made. "I did that" instead of "I bought that." It is something that any DIYer can appreciate himself, even if no one around him does.

      On a distantly related note, I fear there may be a decline in ingenuity in general, as mass produced fare is so cheap and so readily available that few people feel the urge to fiddle, to improve anything, since they can just go out and buy something else.

      I'm currently mulling over a project to convert an optical mouse into a DIY (right) foot operated computer pointer with (left) foot operated pedals instead of buttons. I know there are commercial products that do this ($130-$200+) but they aren't _exactly_ what I envision.

    5. Re:my inlaws by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      I used to be a DIY type, making homebrew beer, DIY beer coolers, DIY fish "pond" (in my dorm room) with DIY biological filter, etc. Several years after college if finally occured to me that what I made was invariably more expensive, less effective/efficient, bigger and just plain uglier than the commercially produced equivalents. And so I quit. (I still subscribed to MAKE when it was first published)

      I'm just the opposite. I used to always assume that I couldn't make things, and that people who did were somewhat above and greater than the rest of us. Then I found out that people build airplanes, something I had always wanted but had not hope of ever being able to afford. I started building, and learned something about myself and the world in general.

      People who make their own stuff have confidence and control. They look at problems from a different angle. Since I started building, "I can't" has dropped from my vocabulary (though in many cases it is replaced by "I'd rather not"). I look at a problem and don't feel overwhelmed by them. I also no longer feel 'used' by big manufacturing, probably because I don't watch much TV with it incessant advertising. I guess it can be summed up with the idea that I've gone from being a 'consumer' to a 'producer', from 'passive' to 'active'. It's a very different world on this side.

      --
      Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
      Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
    6. Re:my inlaws by khrtt · · Score: 1

      The basic rule of DIY for me is, when I want an object, I only build it if I can't buy it. For some reason - "obscenely expensive", "not exactly what I want", etc.

      Then, sometimes you are not interested in owning the object as much as in actually owning the experience of having built the object.

    7. Re:my inlaws by ErikZ · · Score: 1

      Heh. I've got a pile of "Kit Plane" magazines too.

      My first big financial investment will be a condo though. Ah well.

      --
      Democrats or Republicans. They are both taking us to the same place and they are not afraid of us anymore.
    8. Re:my inlaws by -Harlequin- · · Score: 1

      People who make their own stuff have confidence and control.

      Yes. You hesitate for fear of making a problem worse, but with time and experience, you reach a point where you find that you're more than capable of fixing any mistakes you make. Once you're operating beyond that point, the fears and risks evaporate, you can do anything (almost). Any problems you create, you can fix, so you don't need to worry any more, you can create on making/changing/fixing.

      What's REALLY cool, is seeing a surgeon or a vetrinarian operating beyond that point in surgery.

    9. Re:my inlaws by -Harlequin- · · Score: 1

      and just plain uglier than the commercially produced equivalents

      I have a different view - most commerical stuff is crap, and I can do better. Either it's crap because it's cheap and badly designed, or, (more likely) it's crap because modern mass-production technology is very limited in what it can do. Seriously, surprisingly limited. That's why so much crap is hand-made in cheap-labour countries - because for so many things, hand-made is the ONLY way that's possible to make it.

      Now, flip that around.

      Nothing, NOTHING can make objects that are a patch on what a highly qualified individual can make, if they have the time and tools to do so.

      In some industries, such as bespoke suit tailoring, people will pay $4000 for a one-off masterpiece tailored to their body, while most people buy off-the-shelf. But in a lot of industries (particularly gadgets), mass-produced is the only offering, because the cost of hiring an engineering team to do a one-off masterpiece for you simply precludes it being commerically viable. Custom-made furniture likewise.

      But if YOU are the engineer (or designer, or capenter, or whatever), and it's your hobby, you just wiped $10000 off the bill, so you can afford to produce products the way they should be - not the closest approximation to the ideal that mass-production is capable of reaching. Or you can customise exisitng things into something better.

      It's especially apparent in toys. Look at the difference between a top of the line barbie playset, and the kind of doll house created by adult enthusiests. The adult one is some ways less durable to play, in other ways more durable to play, but it's infinitely better, but costs orders of magnitude more.

      DIY offers a way to get things that almost don't exist any more - objects that are at the pinnicle of human technological and artistic achievement.

      Plus, you know, your cellphone looks better covered in rhinestoms with "I [heart] Sam!" written on it while the LEDs flash :-)
      (Personalisation of products is not in the same category, but I support it on general principle that off-the-shelf sucks. Custom is better, even if everyone thinks it's ugly, except you :-)

  15. Some other DIY/tinkering stuff by Mille+Mots · · Score: 5, Informative
    I can't listen to the interview (at work), but I think I get the idea behind MAKE (a DIY project magazine that makes use of broken, obsolete, or unused gadgets around the house, eh?). It sounds like a great addition to my collection of Nuts & Volts magazine, QST, and Circuit Cellar.

    Other great DIY 'tinkering' sites I like are AX84.com, 18watt.com, and Byonics.

    I'd post a link to my site with pictures/notes on my own hand-built tube amp project or my mini-GPS/APRS project (not yet out of planning), but I'm afraid of the /.-ing I'd take. :)

  16. Great mag for hobbyists by FerretFrottage · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you've ever built a Heathkit something or another, or a old analog signal cable descrammbler from radio shack parts (or for the newer generation, if you've ever modded your xbox I guess), you owe it to yourself to check out the Make magazine. It has lots of great projects and it proves to my wife that I am not a crazy as some other people.

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  17. Not impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I saw this magazine while shopping for a USB reference book. What I saw was a re-hash of twenty year's worth of Popular Electronics, Radio Electronics and Elektor, with a new-style layout. Perhaps I'm past all this stuff at my point in life. Maybe it's for a younger generation.

    But for 20$ canadian, it's too fluffy.

  18. In the first issue of MAKE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MAKE mag shows you how to MAKE an advertisement and how to MAKE some editor post it to the front page and how to MAKE a bunch of idiots MAKE snide comments on this thinly-veiled ad.

  19. make magazine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    make: *** No rule to make target `magazine'. Stop.

  20. I prefer... by Fallingcow · · Score: 4, Funny

    ./configure magazine.

    1. Re:I prefer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah. But remember, when ordering, be sure to specify the options:

      --with-pr0n

      --without-advertising

      --without-fee

  21. And now a word from our content provider. by Willeh · · Score: 2, Funny

    In other news, the makers of MAKE magazine sue the makers of the popular command "make", forcing hunders of thousands of l{u,i}n{i,u}x users to type "eckyeckyeckySHAZAM" instead. Man pages proved to be inconclusive and no help to confused sysadmins.

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    1. Re:And now a word from our content provider. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Thats awesome! I think I'm going to alias make to eckyeckyeckySHAZAM in anticipation.

      Made my day, thanks! :D

    2. Re:And now a word from our content provider. by rthille · · Score: 1


      Your regex is broken. It matches
      linix
      lunix
      linux
      lunux

      You want
      {linu,uni}x

      I don't think there's a 'better' accurate regex, except maybe {linux,unix} which might match more efficiently.

      Man I'm a geek...and it's worse that this is a Saturday night...

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  22. Care to share? by lupinstel · · Score: 0

    Could you share the link to the casein plastic recipe? I am curious. Thanks.

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    Don't blame me, I voted for Cthulhu.
    1. Re:Care to share? by Soybean47 · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is from a site for children (and on the first page of a google search for "casein plastic"). If you're really hardcore, you may be able to deviate from the recipe and get by without an adult to help you. ;)

      http://www.suzy.co.nz/suzysworld/Factpage.asp?Fact Sheet=114

      Make Casein Plastic
      Casein is a plastic that is made from milk. It was one of the first plastics ever made and was used for making things like buttons.

      What you need:
      An adult to help you
      2/3 of a cup of milk
      8 teaspoons of vinegar
      a pot
      a plate
      a stirring spoon

      What you do:Pour the milk into the pot and get an adult to help you bring it gently to the boil. When the milk begins to steam and bubble, dribble in the vinegar, stirring the milk all the time. You will see lumps begin to form. When the little lumps clump together to make a big solid lump get the adult to pour off the liquid and then tip your casein plastic lump onto a plate. When it cools a little bit mould it into a shape, like a button then leave it to harden over night. You'll end up with hard casein plastic. The first plastic that was ever invented - it's a bit different from the plastic we're used to!

    2. Re:Care to share? by UrgleHoth · · Score: 1

      This is amazingly similiar to a cheesemaking recipe for Queso Blanco.

      This is by far the easiest cheese to make. Called Queso Blanco in the Spanish speaking (it means "white cheese") world it is used throughout the world by different names. It can be eaten strait or mixed in with various dishes. Try it in your lasagna recipes instead of Ricotta or in addition to it. Yum!

      INGREDIENTS
      .
      1 Gallon Whole Milk
      1/4 Cup White Vinegar**
      .

      1. Heat milk to 180 F (82 C) stirring constantly. Be careful not to burn the milk.
      2. While mixing with a whisk, slowly add the white vinegar. You will notice the milk begins to curdle.
      3. Keep stirring for 10-15 minutes.
      4. Line a colander with a fine cheesecloth.
      5. Pour the curdled milk through the colander.
      6. Allow the curds to cool for about 20 minutes.
      7. Tie the four corners of the cheese cloth together and hang it to drain for about 5 - 7 hours (until it stops dripping).
      8. The solidified cheese can be broken apart and salted to taste or kept unsalted.

      ** The juice of 3-5 lemons may also be used in substitute or addition to the vinegar. The resulting cheese will have a much more tangy flavor.

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    3. Re:Care to share? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      freaky~!

  23. make(1) by xbytor · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought everybody knew that Stu Feldman wrote make(1)?

    Oh, wait...

  24. Techie, but lots of areas by airship · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I've written two articles for MAKE so far, one on hacking the C64 DTV game joystick, and one on setting up a dual-boot XP/Linux system using an installable single-CD Linux distro. So both of my articles have been 'standard' techie stuff. But there have been articles on a guy who set up a monorail in his backyard, a guy who modded his SUV to look like an 'official' vehicle so he could park anywhere, and other fun and semi-dangerous stuff. So it's covering a lot of ground.

    As a former computer magazine editor myself, I kind of wondered about the viability of a dead-tree magazine for hackers in the age of the URL myself, especially one that costs fifteen bucks an issue. But MAKE has been very well-received, and they're supporting it with an active daily blog. I've enjoyed both issues so far, and am eagerly anticipating the next. It probably helps that it's from the O'Reilly book people, who really grok hackers, since they come from the same gene pool. Plus their production values are incredible. Full color on every page, high-quality paper, etc. Copies of MAKE will be around at least as long as those old National Geographics in your grandfather's attic.

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    1. Re:Techie, but lots of areas by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Heh cool...

      I've only done one mod for my DTV... after the batteries going dead deep into the dungeon of the sword of fargoal, I added a coax jack for a wall wart. It was one with a bypass pin so I can leave the batteries in and it won't try to charge them.

      If you are quick, you can also pull out the wall wart and it will switch to batteries before the DTV resets, and you can take your game with you. I imagine a capacitor to hold up the voltage would make the transistion much easier, it would be more like a laptop then, plug and unplug the wall power whenever you want.

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    2. Re:Techie, but lots of areas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Copies of MAKE will be around at least as long as those old National Geographics in your grandfather's attic.

      Only if they include pictures of topless African women masquerading as sociology/anthropology...

    3. Re:Techie, but lots of areas by -Harlequin- · · Score: 1

      I kind of wondered about the viability of a dead-tree magazine for hackers in the age of the URL

      When you're hacking around with tools, tech-trash, and consumer products, instead of on a computer, it's usually necessary (or least highly desirable) to have your reference on paper, with you as you work.

      I have a computer monitor on my workbench, as well as a wireless tablet-pc, and yet even when working from URL reference material, I often find it's quicker and easier to print the material out - a sheet of paper is a formidable tool on a workbench.

      So I think dead-tree is still central to hacking. :)

  25. Seems another case of retro-mania by suitepotato · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sort of. And probably a good one.

    I grew up reading do-it-yourself books, encyclopedias, magazines (especially Popular Science and Popular Mechanics of the 50s, 60s, and 70s saved by family). Casting aluminum myself was childs play given I went to school with kids who built calculators out of discrete components in elementary school. Do-it-yourself was just what we did. It wasn't different than catching carp yourself instead of pestering mom and dad to buy them for the tank, or sometimes pond you made with a shovel and hose.

    Looking this over, I'll probably eventually get around to subscribing. If only American schools of today put more emphasis on the basics that allow us to build more complicated technology. Wood shop, metal shop, auto, electronics, so many are now cut to nothing no matter the administration being right (the basics are reading, writing, math, history) or left (the basics are sociopolitics, emotions, and safety which precludes hands-on anything). People should know how to build the machines they use in case they ever do need to make them.

    Maybe I'll buy a couple subscriptions for my local schools.

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  26. uh.... try this: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
  27. subscription by faldore · · Score: 2, Interesting

    LAME!! As soon as I read this article, I tried to subscribe to Make Magazine, but they're charging SALES TAX!! I have never and will never pay sales tax on a magazine subscription!

    Bad move!

    1. Re:subscription by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      Yeah, how dare a national publisher follow the law! I too only subscribe to magazines that openly flaunt our country's tax code. Fuck 'em all!

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    2. Re:subscription by faldore · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not "the law" that magazine subscriptions are subject to the recipient's local sales tax. Mail order companies only have to charge sales tax if they have a physical presence in the recipient's state. Apparently O'Reilly has a physical presence in Washington, which sucks for me.

    3. Re:subscription by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 0
      It's not "the law" that magazine subscriptions are subject to the recipient's local sales tax.

      Just as well, seeing as it isn't flaunt, it's flout.
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    4. Re:subscription by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, how dare a national publisher follow the law! I too only subscribe to magazines that openly flaunt our country's tax code. Fuck 'em all!

      The country's tax code doesn't include a sales tax.

    5. Re:subscription by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      There is no National law that dictates sales tax.

  28. MAKE is cool... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    because it reminds me a great deal of being a 13-year old boy in 1981 fascinated with Commodore 62/128 and my old TRS-80. FOr those of us who were at my age during the "pioneering days" of the late 70's and early 80's well remember the emotional ride of discovery. Kids these days have it easy. I don't know of any kid these days who would be interested in making their own radios, burgler alarms, etc. I used to subscribe to magazines like MAKE back in the day and build all kinds of crap. It was fun and it kept me out of trouble.

  29. But... by connah0047 · · Score: 1

    But who makes the makers?

    1. Re:But... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      me.

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  30. When I was a little boy... by TomorrowPlusX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I was about 8 or 10, my father ( a machinist, and DIY type, though of a mechanical nature, not techy ) bought me four volumes of _The Boy Mechanic_ -- a *beautiful* set of books by Popular Mechanics, from the 1920's.

    These books had *everything* from simple things like making your own arc-lamp to radios, to steam engines, to stirling-cycle engines, to lightweight gasoline airplane engines ( for free flight ) to chassis for a go-kart, to simple transmissions, to making your own lathe, and so on. Plus, a *lot* of pyrotechnics. A LOT of pyrotechnics.

    All gorgeously illustrated in the clean slightly-post-art-nouveau style of the 20's, with little boys and teenagers doing things that would get you arrested today.

    What broke my heart were paragraphs that would say "Just go to your local chemist's and buy 12 pounds of insert-highly-toxic-explosive-compound". I'd ask my dad and say, "where can I get insert-highly-toxic-explosive-compound". He'd say, "Son, we live in a pussy age where you'd get arrested for just asking about that stuff."

    I guess this is how we grow up today. Sterile, hairless wimps.

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    1. Re:When I was a little boy... by Dogtanian · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd ask my dad and say, "where can I get insert-highly-toxic-explosive-compound". He'd say, "Son, we live in a pussy age where you'd get arrested for just asking about that stuff." I guess this is how we grow up today. Sterile, hairless wimps.

      No, the reason you grew up as a sterile, hairless wimp is because all those highly-toxic-explosive-compounds your father and grandfather played around with had horrible effects on their genes and reproductive systems.

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    2. Re:When I was a little boy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      volume 1 is available for download, from ibiblio.
      http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/12655

    3. Re:When I was a little boy... by TomorrowPlusX · · Score: 1

      You have made my day. I haven't read those books in ten years, and seeing it -- in OCR PDF no less -- has brought a tear to my eye. Some things shouldn't be forgotten.

      Plus, check out the editor's note:

      Another class of projects illustrate the caviler attitude toward environment and health in 1913. These projects involve items such as gunpowder, acetylene, hydrogen, lead, mercury, sulfuric acid, nitric acid, cadmium, potassium sulfate, potassium cyanide, potassium ferrocyanide, copper sulfate, and hydrochloric acid. Several involve the construction of hazardous electrical devices. Please view these as snapshots of culture and attitude, not as suggestions for contemporary activity.
      Gold.
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      lorem ipsum, dolor sit amet
    4. Re:When I was a little boy... by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 1

      Another problem that comes up is that these old books rely on some obsolete stuff. For example, I had a book when I was a kid that instructed me to get a hard rubber comb for a static electricity experiment.

      Hard rubber comb? I've never seen one, since plastic is used universally in cheap combs.

      Another one that gets me is instructions for building AM radios that tell you to buy a ferrite core AM tuner coil. You can't buy such a beast! At least not easily. Perhaps they were common in years past, but the only way to get one now is to take apart another AM radio. Even better would be some instructions on how to wind your own. It's not hard, but if you don't know about radios you'll need someone to describe how to do it. Once, I saw instructions on how to wind your own coil, but they called for a ferrite core. WTF? Where are you supposed to get a ferrite core with the right properties? Air core is easier for beginners, even if the coil is bigger. Everyone knows what air is.

      And now I have the same problem with schematic diagrams. Quite a lot of the stuff more than 30 years old is unbuildable because parts aren't available. Substitutions are possible, but for a newbie, it's not obvious. Even for an expert it can be hard, depending on what the circuit does. How do you know for sure that the modern transistor is going to substitute correctly in a particular circuit?

      So, we're not done breaking the hearts of young inventors. The solution to this is to keep updating those books, publish information about how to acquire materials (i.e. a little note saying that potassium nitrate is the same as stump remover, which you can get at a Home Depot store is damn useful), and to describe as much as possible how to build things rather than acquire them. (wind your own AM coils rather than buy them.)

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    5. Re:When I was a little boy... by dutky · · Score: 1
      Dogtanian wrote:
      I'd ask my dad and say, "where can I get insert-highly-toxic-explosive-compound". He'd say, "Son, we live in a pussy age where you'd get arrested for just asking about that stuff." I guess this is how we grow up today. Sterile, hairless wimps.
      No, the reason you grew up as a sterile, hairless wimp is because all those highly-toxic-explosive-compounds your father and grandfather played around with had horrible effects on their genes and reproductive systems.

      Funny, I thought that the reason we grew up as sterile, hairless wimps was because we didn't get poisoned or blown to smithereens in childhood whilst playing with insert-highly-toxic-explosive-compound.
    6. Re:When I was a little boy... by LordNimon · · Score: 1
      Once, I saw instructions on how to wind your own coil, but they called for a ferrite core. WTF? Where are you supposed to get a ferrite core with the right properties?

      I don't know a whole lot about ferrite cores, but what about this place: http://www.adamsmagnetic.com/cores.htm?

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    7. Re:When I was a little boy... by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 1

      Case in point: you have to call to discuss your needs with the salesman. I suppose that you're going to have to know your properties ahead of time...

      And, they appear to sell to large customers, and in big lots. They do custom ferrite core design and manufacturing.

      Finally, I don't see a shopping cart on their website. What if I just want one? What if I'm 10 years old and all I want to do is build a radio during summer vacation?

      This is not the solution for an individual hobbyist who might be 10 years old, but for an engineering team working for a large company.

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      Fascism trolls keeping me up every night. When I starts a preachin', he HITS ME WITH HIS REICH!
    8. Re:When I was a little boy... by rdmiller3 · · Score: 1
      There were FOUR VOLUMES?

      Awww, I only found one at a local GoodWill store. It had some "Schwartz" kid's name scribbled inside the front cover.

      Great book for the most part, but like many Popular Mechanics publications of its day, somewhat short on verification.

      For example, the "How to build a one-man glider" article had a wingspan too short for a 20-pound toddler and the illustration suggested a flight path which began from the edge of a cliff and proceded over a road and a railway.

      I'm guessing that the author was a "hopeful Darwinist".

  31. Free Issue Promo code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you subscribe to O'Reilly's Make magazine, use promotional code M5ZXML to get a free bonus issue (5 for $35 instead of 4).

    1. Re:Free Issue Promo code by The_Wilschon · · Score: 1

      Ok, that just made the decision for me... I was on the verge of subscribing, or waiting until my birthday to find out that noone had gotten me a subscription. (I would tell someone I wanted it of course) But, a free issue I would not get with a birthday subscription.

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    2. Re:Free Issue Promo code by darkstar2a · · Score: 1
      The following code: G5R2DY

      Not only gets you a copy of the premier issue as a bonus, it's also a DISCOUNTED subscription of $29.95. [this is the only discount I've seen, the rest of the codes are just for a free issue]

      Enjoy!

    3. Re:Free Issue Promo code by KUHurdler · · Score: 1

      no, you'd get 4 free issues... Unless your friends/family charge you for gifts.

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  32. Philip Torrone Rocks by brickballs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I pay attention to what Philip Torrone is up to.

    He started the engadget Podcast, hackaday, and now MAKE.

    it seems like he's really good at getting cool stuff off the ground and then he leaves it to other people once its up and running

    http://flashenabled.com/ is his site

    --
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    "You've never heard of slashdot?"
    "I know it makes websites not work."
  33. make yourself magazine! by matt+me · · Score: 1

    why subscribe to the magazine when you can compile it yourself? ./configure
    make
    make magazine

    you need to get the binding right, or it'll fall apart! and don't link to mobile libraries!

  34. Coupon, Amazon back-issues by Noksagt · · Score: 1

    I agree that it is a great magazine. Unless you have amazon cash to burn, the cheapest way to get it is direct. Use coupon code M5ZXML to get 5 issues for the price of 4 (~$35).

    If you want back issues, amazon is your best bet (you can sometimes find them on half or ebay, but most people hang on to them. Issue 1 and Issue 2 are available. If you do want to use them for a subscription, subscription, you can get 4 issues for $35 and $5 off a future amazon order.

    All of the amazon links have a short video & a 10 page excerpt from the magazine.

  35. QSECOFR actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but what did that have to do with anything?

  36. There's really ROOT there sometimes because ofPASE by marat · · Score: 1

    but the joke only works with unix people, /400 ones have nothing to see here (MOVALONG)

  37. Even better deal: free issue AND $5 off by Noksagt · · Score: 1

    Use the links in parent post, but coupon code G5R2DY for 5 issues for only $30. Wish I knew that one when I subscribed!

  38. Coming soon - Home Pile Surgery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eye Surgery sounds possible, as does lower abdomen and thigh work.

    But slipped disks?

    Anyone for a home vasectomy? Would you trust your balls in anyone else's hands?

  39. MAKE has some goods but a lot of junk by eh2o · · Score: 1

    Its _loaded_ with annoying ads, and aside from the 3-4 articles that actually tell you how to do something, the rest of the mag looks like reruns of content I've already seen on Wired News, Slashdot, etc -- in many cases stuff that is 6+ months old.

    The how-to articles are decent though. I just wish they would drop the rest of the crap and stick to the goods.

  40. And, many think DIY'ers are stupid... by awfar · · Score: 1

    ...like many Ph.D.s, administrators, bureucrats, lawyers - you know, those people in charge of things that you get jobs, raises and stuff. Either envious or unappreciative, they find these things trivial, unless of course, it is *their* hobby like collecting old iron horse shoes or old bits of cloth, etc. High-performance computing people that pooh-pooh the embedded systems people, or the engineer that disdains micropower problems.

    I myself learned to design a radio receiver, weld, turn a spindle in wood or an end mill a gear blank, and fluid power, but that was quickly thrashed from me to do higher-value stuff like XML and Java. Note the sarcasm.

  41. Re:in your sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Call me a dumbass, but .... where is this sig that contains this website? I see no sig below your post, and none in your profile area ...???

  42. Is that a big button? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does 2/3 cup of milk only produce enough to make one button?

  43. I was a contributor to issue one &... by sdedeo · · Score: 1

    I have to say when I saw the final product, I was rather disappointed. There was really a huge amount of filler ("how to blog! here is how to get your blog... sign on to a free blog service... don't forget passwords are case sensitive...") and what was interesting was duplicated on the web -- where the material belongs in the first place, IMO.

    Make could be really good if they went beyond just replicating the kind of stuff that appears -- for free -- on the web. So far, however, they just seem to be paying (well, I might add!) hobbyists for the rights to reprint their webpages.

    For example, they have a long article on how to build a kite camera to do ariel photography. Pretty neat -- but I think anybody who wanted to do that would be far better served by going onto the web and googling (or going to rec.kites.) Then you can compare different rigs, get a diversity of opinions, learn your options -- and, in the end, contribute your own experiences -- all for, well, free.

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    1. Re:I was a contributor to issue one &... by Chyeld · · Score: 1

      Part of the problem is there is a limit to how much effort even a DIY'er is realisticly going to put forth to work on a project.

      MAKE is aimed at the sort that enjoy DIY but don't want to spend all day on the web looking for things to do and trying to weigh the appearent quality of the information they do find.

      I've seen numerous DIY sites online, hundreds of 'once off' DIY project sites, and the one constant all them have is their inconsistancy.

      MAKE takes the information and puts it together into a coherent, reliable package.

      For many, that's well worth 15$ compaired the the amount of time it would take to be a DIY researcher on top of actually doing the project.

  44. So far I'm not that impressed by ecloud · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's definitely a geekier magazine than most, but none of the stuff seems that unique. Many of the projects are stuff I already read about here on Slashdot or elsewhere on the net; many are oversimplified; many are not explained well enough. It was also funny that they had that article about yak-shaving, but the proposed solutions weren't that inspiring, and then the rest of the magazine is devoted to many ways of yak-shaving that they hoped would be as diverting as possible.

    Of course it tries to be many things to many people. There are so many varieties of geekery, so their coverage of any one variety is cursory. Maybe for the type of geeks that have never done anything outside the software area, it's something to get their feet wet.

    Popular Science sometimes finds some real, inspiring news that I didn't already read on the net. That is nice. I used to like Electronics Now back in the late 80's and early 90's; they had some really unique projects. EE Times is also an excellent industry news source, but I quit subscribing to the paper version now that it's 100% online and free. With Make, I hope that it just hasn't found its stride yet, not that it's going to be permanently just fluff.

  45. What wives think by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

    Make magazine, the bane of wives everywhere that want their husbands to throw that old crap away! Just ask my wife about it... she can tell you.

  46. Re:in your sig by LetterJ · · Score: 1

    It's right there under every post of mine:

    Tinker, hack, DIY...you know, making stuff. [makingstuff.net]

    Don't know if they're visible to Anonymous Cowards or not, as I haven't visited the site that way in years.

  47. make? hardware news? by zenneth · · Score: 1

    I thought make was hardware-independent. heheh.

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  48. caesin is protein, you just made dried cheese by Jim+McCoy · · Score: 2, Informative

    FYI, caesin is one of the predominant proteins in milk. It is not plastic. What you are making is a coagulate, using the acid to unfold the proteins and get them to clump together.

    Another description of this "plastic" is acid-precipitated cheese.

    You have made a lump of mozzarella and dried it out.

    1. Re:caesin is protein, you just made dried cheese by snorklewacker · · Score: 1

      I can see the next slashdot headline: PC Case Made of Cheese

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  49. DIYParts.org interview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which reminds me, they did a good audio interview with the founder of DIYParts.org, Christian Einfeldt. Funny thing is he credits Adam Doxtater (the "Mouth of Mad Penguin") as being one of the top four people we'll be talking about in years to come. Did I fall of the train somewhere and bump my head?

  50. Definitely check out MAKE by PhatKat · · Score: 1

    My brother got me a subscription for my birthday after hearing about it on NPR. There are so many bizarre uses of technology and clearly organized instructions for DIY goodness to boot. Everything from disposable camera aerial kite photography (using silly putty as the timer element!) to a DIY railgun with nothing but a few ball bearings, magnets, and a ruler as construction materials. The reaction produced with this bad boy happens so fast it can't be seen by the naked eye, and you can make it as long as you want, speeding up the reaction to the point that the ball bearings start shattering the magnets used to propel them! Sweet Sassy Molassey this magazine blows my mind!

    Phatkat

    "Be someone. Help someone.

  51. Re:in your sig by Lost+Race · · Score: 1

    With sigs turned off in the Slashdot preferences there's basically no way to see sigs. You'd think they'd show each user's sig somewhere in one of the user's info pages, but no. So don't just say "see sig for details" -- actually include the relevant details in the comment text, because lots of readers can't see your sig.

  52. Use formaldehyde? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So I too was interested in this retro plastic, and was under the same impression. It's cheese. (I make my own cheese, so the "recipe" I found online was a bit too familiar...) However, further investigation shows that it can be hardened into more of a plastic-like substance by using formaldehyde. How exactly, I have no idea. I've googled high and low, and can only find commentaries of the late 1890's casein plastic that used formaldehyde to harden it. Anyone got a link, or any information, as to how this may be re-produced in the kitchen? Curiousity killed the cat, but I've done things requiring much, much more harmful chemicals in the past, so why not. ;-)

    1. Re:Use formaldehyde? by LetterJ · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Here's a quote:

      9.4.5 Make plastic from milk casein
      Casein is a phosphoprotein thermoplastic polymer that may be used to make insulators, buttons, handles, adhesives and artist's priming paint. We can make casein from the reaction of skimmed milk with ethanoic acid (acetic acid).
      Calcium caseinate + 2H+ ---> casein + Ca2+
      (i) To prepare an approximately 10% ethanoic acid (acetic acid) solution, add 1 mL of glacial acetic acid to 10 mL of water. Separate cream from milk or directly use skimmed milk.
      Pour 200 mL of skimmed milk into a 500 mL beaker.
      Heat the milk to 50oC and then maintain the temperature at 40 to 50oC.
      Add drops of the prepared acetic acid solution to the warmed milk with constant stirring.
      After all the acetic acid solution is added, continue stirring for five minutes and then leave the mixture standing until the liquid becomes clear and the separation of the casein curd from the whey is complete.
      Filter the lump of casein by suction, squeeze it with a teaspoon, wash it with water, wipe it dry with a piece of filter paper, mould it into shapes and then expose it to the air for 1-2 days.
      Harden the plastic by immersing the dried casein in formalin (formaldehyde solution, methanal solution.) for one day.
      Finally, polish the hard casein plastic with sandpaper.
      Addition of aqueous ammonia solution to the casein can make glue.

  53. Re:in your sig by LetterJ · · Score: 1

    Given that it didn't always work like that (note my user number), and I haven't visited the site under anything other than this account since 1998 or so, there's no reason I should have known that setting existed.

  54. btw, here's the maker of make (the program) by HishamMuhammad · · Score: 1
    The post got me thinking about who would be the maker (creator) of "make", the program. Once again, Wikipedia comes to the rescue:
    Make was originally created by Dr. Stuart I. Feldman in 1977. Dr. Feldman was working at Bell Labs at the time. Since it is old, many derived tools have appeared that work better. Among these are BSD make, GNU make and A-A-P. In 2003 Dr. Feldman received (http://campus.acm.org/public/membernet/storypage. May.2004.cfm?story=4&CFID=23207696&CFTOKEN=2889574 4) the ACM Software System Award (http://www.acm.org/awards/ssaward.html) for the invention of this important tool.
    Yay, make is older than me. Here's to Dr. Feldman! Make rules!