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Businesses To Be Censored on Use of Olympics

pitpe writes "The BBC reports that the proposed London 2012 Olympics Bill bans the use of words related to the Olympics by non-sponsors, including 'Olympic', '2012', 'gold', 'summer' and 'games', amongst others. The bill is aimed at ensuring corporate sponsors, who have provided £790m of the IOC's £2.25bn marketing revenue over the last four years, will not be deterred by 'ambush marketing' where rivals to the official sponsors try to take advantage, but businesses warn it could make it technically illegal for pubs to use chalkboards to flag up coverage of the Games." From the article: "The London 2012 website has already posted a warning listing a string of Olympic-related words and images that are off limits to all but official sponsors. And advertisers' representatives have criticised the new Olympics bill because they believe it will make it almost impossible for most companies to even acknowledge that the Games are happening without getting into trouble. "

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  1. UK Govt Introduces Reserved Olympic Letter Law by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 5, Funny
    LONDON (AP) - The UK government today introduced a bill into parliament that, if adopted, would allow the International Olympic Committee (IOC) to reserve use of certain letters and digits, including "O", "2", "L", and "g" through "r", to businesses who had signed official Olympic sponsorship agreements.

    Prime Minister Tony Blair passionately, though unintelligibly, defended the controversial law, saying that "t[h]e I[O]C s [h]ave [it] [q]uite cl[ea]r that [o]ur role [is] [t]o def[en]d the i[n]ve[stm]en[t]s of [l]egiti[mat]e [adve]rti[s]er[s]" who have signed on with the IOC.

    Blair also pointed to the limited timeframe of the bill, which only allows surveillance during a two-year period before and after the bill, and said that this showed that public opinion had been considered strongly during the formulation period. "[Wh]at m[or]e [d]o th[ey] wa[nt]?" he asked rhetorically

    Free Software Foundation founder and figurehead Richard M. Stallman was unavailable comment. A source close to the activist said that "he's working on renaming GCC in Cyrillic".

    1. Re:UK Govt Introduces Reserved Olympic Letter Law by ZhuLien · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Now is time to promote that Dreamcast fighting GAME Psychic Force 2012 - here's a review of this just above average Game. http://www.gaming-media.com/fighting/pf2012.htm

    2. Re:UK Govt Introduces Reserved Olympic Letter Law by ZhuLien · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think this *GAME* Psychic Force *2012* came out one *SUMMER*. I wonder if US *GOLD* had released games as good as this they would still be around? If you don't have this though, you can always play Hyper *OLYMPICS* in the arcades instead if you can find it.

    3. Re:UK Govt Introduces Reserved Olympic Letter Law by moviepig.com · · Score: 5, Funny

      J.K. Rowling has suggested referring to 'the-events-who-must-not-be-named'. Support for the proposal has come from Jane (formerly "Olympia") Dukakis...

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    4. Re:UK Govt Introduces Reserved Olympic Letter Law by Kris_J · · Score: 2, Funny

      J.K. Rowling has weighed in on an over-the-top censorship issue? I suggest we refer to that event as "the-irony-that-cannot-be-ignored".

    5. Re:UK Govt Introduces Reserved Olympic Letter Law by mattspammail · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Misspelling is the best way around this dumbass law. All you Londoners take note:

      Come to our pub and cheer for your favorite athlets during the 20012 Olypic sumer games!

      On another note, would it be illegal to say, "We're not an official sponsor of the 2012 summer Olympic games in London"?

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    6. Re:UK Govt Introduces Reserved Olympic Letter Law by famebait · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or one could take a cue from the Apple engineers who were sued by Carl Sagan for internally code-naming their project "Sagan" without paying him, and promptly changed the internal name to "Asshole Astronomer". For which they were sued a second time by Carl Sagan, presumably in an attempt to convince the world that he was in fact not an asshole, *snigger*.

      The "Asshole Games"(tm)?

      Has a certain ring^H^H^H^Hasshole to it, doesn't it?.

      Alternatively, one could solicit a bid from microsoft to buy the entire british language, so that any use outside properly licensed Microsoft products incurs extra fees, includiong from the IOC. Just think how much money the government could make!

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    7. Re:UK Govt Introduces Reserved Olympic Letter Law by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 2, Informative

      Apple's internal code name switched from Carl Sagan to BHA after he sued. He sued again because he thought BHA stood for "but-head astronomer." Get your stories strait!

      http://www.petting-zoo.net/~deadbeef/archive/582.h tml

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  2. The games formerly known as the olymipcs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...will begin sometime between 2011 and 2013.

    1. Re:The games formerly known as the olymipcs... by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've thought for a number of years that the "olympics" as they currently exist should be disbanded, and an entirely new, NON PROFIT group should be set up to run the event.

      The idea being that they only cover their own costs and don't generate any revenue. I'm getting sick of the obscene cost of the games as they currently exist, and those prices make it prohibitive for people to even get out and see events (even if they're able to).

      I mean, look at the olympics in Greece, there were lots of events with the stands half empty or more - of course there are multiple events going on simultaneously, but I figure that ticket prices contributed rather strongly too...

      N.

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    2. Re:The games formerly known as the olymipcs... by monkeydo · · Score: 2, Funny

      The IOC is non-profit.

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    3. Re:The games formerly known as the olymipcs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      The solution:

      "07YM91CS"

      And people said l33t would never catch on.

    4. Re:The games formerly known as the olymipcs... by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Heh heh, so is The Church of Scientology.

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  3. Yeah, and a band too... by garcia · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They won't allow The Olympic Hopefuls to use Olympic in their name either. It's amazing that this crap was written in to law. Now the band has to change to "The Hopefuls".

    Seriously, I love how they were given powers over a word that was around LONG before "The Games" were.

    What a bunch of shit.

    1. Re:Yeah, and a band too... by glwtta · · Score: 2, Funny
      Seriously, I love how they were given powers over a word that was around LONG before "The Games" were.

      Ok, so technically most of the words they listed are English words, and English wasn't around yet during the early 8th century BCE, when the games started.

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  4. Banning the use of the year? by hungrygrue · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That would be hard on a lot of businesses... Calendar makers, for instance :-)

    1. Re:Banning the use of the year? by El+Cubano · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No kidding.

      Other banned words include games, medals, gold, silver, bronze, 2012, sponsor, summer

      I guess a jewelry store owner would be forbidden from advertising: "Come and see our great selection of gold and silver on sale this starting this summer. No payments until 2012."

      This is positively ridiculous.

    2. Re:Banning the use of the year? by Skevin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Many sources believe that the fact that the Mayan Calendar ends in December 2012(tm)(c) will signal the end of the world.

      Perhaps the IOC(tm)(c), armed with its cadre of lawyers and time travel technology, decided to sue them for actually using this year. Ancient Mayan astronomers, upon marking December 21st, 2012(tm)(c), on their calendars may have been assaulted by futuristic IOC(tm)(c) lawyers, possessing knowledge of the future(tm)(c), which would allow them to sue based on laws that did not yet exist(United States Patent #836,236,582,353,873,122). These impeccably dressed lawyers would be conceived as demons, as they rampaged mercilessly through the Mayan empire, bringing suit to every individual who had the audacity to own a Mayan Calendar that included the year 2012(tm)(c). Like SCO(tm), the IOC(tm)(c) Lawyers selected a time period when every Mayan citizen had a calendar that included 2012(tm)(c), so as to maximize the targets they could bring suit against (i.e. everyone in the Empire).
      It is well known that the Mayan Empire died out almost overnight. In order to conduct a full scale invasion of this magnitude, one would require two time-travelling lawyers for every man, woman, and child in the Mayan Empire. The IOC(tm)(c) does indeed have this kind of manpower, with plenty to spare. It is suspected that the IOC(tm)(c) has conducted such temporal legal blitzkriegs against other peoples, such as Aztec Empire, the American Colonial town of Roanoke, and the crew of the fishing ship High Aim 6, for court rulings not mentioned here, because they will not exist until 2036(tm).

      Solomon Kevin Chang

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  5. news reporting by paper_boats · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Does this extend to mean that only the sponsoring news organizations can report on olympic news. Sounds tricky.

    1. Re:news reporting by hungrygrue · · Score: 3, Informative

      That already happened in the last ******* games. The BBC World Service had to block out their feed for anyone in the US if there was any mention of the games which cannot be named because they would have been infringing on the exclusive broadcast rights of NBC.

    2. Re:news reporting by InvalidError · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, yes actually.

      Some athletes ran into pretty big troubles from blogging and posting their own videos during the last olympic "games". The big media went pretty far out of their way to clamp down on everything and it really sucks. Almost every event is locked down with regional exclusivity deals.

      If you go to the games, any written, photographic, audio and video content you may acquire must be for your own exclusive use only or you risk having the media lawyers on your back.

      My guess is that this will only get much worse before some sense is knocked back in this messy circus act.

    3. Re:news reporting by zippthorne · · Score: 3, Funny

      How often do you get to watch the greatest sport man ever invented, Olympic Curling. It combines the best parts of Hockey and err. shuffleboard and street cleaning.

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  6. Right by PunkOfLinux · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And the word summer NEVER comes up in normal conversation. Nor does the word 2012 come up either...

    I can see it now
    Tom: "Hey, I can't wait till the summer of 2012 becau--"
    Trademark Police: "Stop right there, infringer!"
    Tom: "I didn't do anything wrong!"
    Trademark Police: "According to this law you did. Those words are trademarked."
    Tom: "How the hell did they trademark a year and a season?!"
    Pitiful

    1. Re:Right by kie · · Score: 2, Interesting

      double plus bad.

      (maybe the book should have been titled 2012 rather than 1984)

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  7. 1st Amendment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Thank heavens the 1st Amendment prohibits this type of corporate welfare in the USA.

  8. unreasonable gits... by Travelsonic · · Score: 5, Interesting
    From the "London 2012" website:
    You can support the 2012 Games by not engaging in the unauthorised use of the Olympic Marks

    Yeah? If by "engaging in the unauthorised use of the Olympic Marks" you mean by using them at all, how about you respect the people, and not make such fuchking unreasoanble demands in the first place?

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  9. This is nothing new by winkydink · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The IOC has always been very vigorous in defending the branding rights to the games. They even tried to get the Special Olympics to change before the public backlash made them decide to change their minds.

    Think about it. If you're Coca-Cola (or some other huge multinational) that's spending 8-9 figures to be the "official whatever of the Olympics", you're going to want to be pretty sure that your competitor isn't going to just say the same thing unofficially. Pretty sure in this case means contractual language with teeth. Hence, the IOC turning around and doing the same thing.

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    1. Re:This is nothing new by geekoid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And the government should not pass laws like this.
      They are only doing it becasue they know Olympic is pretty damn generic, older then the IOC, and a total perversion of copyright law.

      Put the word 'Official' in your advertising. If someone else claimes to be an 'official olympic whatever' sue them. But pubs should be able to play anything on TV and advertising they are doing so.

      This is like banning any company from using the word marathon for christ sake.

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    2. Re:This is nothing new by Maestro4k · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Think about it. If you're Coca-Cola (or some other huge multinational) that's spending 8-9 figures to be the "official whatever of the Olympics", you're going to want to be pretty sure that your competitor isn't going to just say the same thing unofficially. Pretty sure in this case means contractual language with teeth. Hence, the IOC turning around and doing the same thing. Sure, and it's reasonable to expect that your competitors can't imply they're official sponsors. But this is going way beyond that, a quote from the article:

      But the new bill will make it illegal to combine words like "games", "medals", "gold", "2012", "sponsor" or "summer" in any form of advertising.

      Heaven help you if you're having a conference of some kind in London in the summer of 2012, you might get heavily fined when you try to promote it, even if it has _nothing_ to do with the Olympics, occurs at a different time (well it'd kind of have to since the city will likely be packed because of the Olympics) or date.

      If you make games for children better make sure you don't inadvertantly advertise any as summer games, you'll break this law. Again, you could be advertising a glorified lawn sprinkler for kids to play games under in the summer heat but since you "combined" summer and games in your ad the law applies and you're screwed.

      I'm sure you'll say "but they'll be reasonable and won't pursue those types of cases" but we already know how well that type of stuff works. You can find many cases of the RIAA & MPAA sending out Cease & Desist letters because they found files containing words that also are used in songs/movies they own but had nothing to do with them. I seem to remember one where the C&D referred to a file that was around 500kb in size, but the MPAA thought it was one of their movies. Rationality won't enter into the enforcement of this law, it'll get the same treatment, anything that looks like it applies will get slapped with at least a lawyergram and likely charges levied. Even if they company ends up off the hook they'll have paid a penalty for defending themselves for doing nothing wrong.

      No matter how you look at it this is a very bad law, and very bad precedent. Why should the IOC be given sole ownership of common words beyond Olympic/Olympics? Most of those words are used a lot, and in non-olympic references. Even if you think the words are defensible, including the damn year is insane. I suppose everyone in London will have to be sure to avoid mentioning the year in advertising in 2012 just to be on the safe side.

    3. Re:This is nothing new by KarmaMB84 · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Our 2012 line-up is the gold-standard in auto-mobiles and we're giving you these GREAT deals for this Summer only!" *men with machine guns jump through the windows to detain the anti-Olympic "terrorists"*

  10. Commercialization blows by phoenix.bam! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wish i had the funds to start a true olympic games. A nice non-profit event. Maybe even center ed around the athletes. What we have currently just hurts my head. Spectators aren't allowed to drink the wrong drink or wear a shirt with a non-sponser on it. I feel kinda sick.

    1. Re:Commercialization blows by spike2131 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Meanwhile, people who actually consume the sponsor's products - by eating at McDonald's and drinking a lot of Coke - are way too fat to even consider competing in the games.

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  11. Already in the US by interiot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    See 36 USC 220506... the US has had the same law for a long time. The Olympic commitee has even tried to be quite heavy-handed about it, on more than one occasion.

  12. Advertise this by DeadBugs · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So established businesses in London, who have contributed tax dollars for years to the city do not get to benefit from the event being there. The whole reason to have the games in London is so that the IOC can profit? Are businesses that do not sponsor the Olympics banned from doing business with people who show up for the games?

    It won't be long until athletes are winning bronze, silver and gold coke cans.

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    1. Re:Advertise this by Ithika · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't think any businesses in London have been contributing tax dollars.

    2. Re:Advertise this by RedWizzard · · Score: 2, Insightful
      So established businesses in London, who have contributed tax dollars for years to the city do not get to benefit from the event being there.
      Of course they do. The increase in tourism will benefit a large proportion of London businesses. What they don't get to do is associate themselves with the Olympics without permission. There's nothing unreasonable about that. What's unreasonable is enacting a law to cover the situation (it should already be covered by existing trademark legislation).
    3. Re:Advertise this by nzkbuk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The as of next year the council tax (similar to property tax or rates in most countries) will include a component for the olympics.
      As business (like indivuals) are required by law to pay the council tax, they WILL have contributed money to the games. Admitteditly £'s (pounds) not $'s (dollars).

      From many sites "The government has said that, initially, £1.5 billion will come from the National Lottery and up to £550 million from London council tax."

  13. Atlanta1996 by 1000101 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When the Olympics were in Atlanta back in 1996, the press (much of it foreign) lambasted the U.S. and ACOG (Atlanta Committee for the Olympic Games) for all of the corporate advertising. London will be no different as far as the omnipresent billboards, electronic displays, banners, etc.

  14. Nothing new in the US either by ceenvee703 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Official sponsors of the Super Bowl get to actually use the words "Super Bowl" in their ads or on their packaging. Everyone else who wants to sell TVs or potato chips or beer for the game usually use the phrase "the big game" since they can't use the SB word...

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    1. Re:Nothing new in the US either by Taladar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But they probably ban neither "super" nor "bowl" but only the combination. Nobody would have a problem with the exclusive use of "Sponsor of the Olympic Summer Games 2012" but banning each separate word is ridiculous.

  15. So, what else is new? by alexo · · Score: 2, Insightful


    An ungodly heap of money trumps your rights.
    An ungodly heap of money trumps common sense.

    Come to thing of it,
    an ungodly heap of money trumps everything.

    Why are you so surprised?

    1. Re:So, what else is new? by geekoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      becasue I expected to have an ungodly heap of money by now.

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  16. Queen to Rook 1 by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Funny

    'But the new bill will make it illegal to combine words like "games", "medals", "gold", "2012", "sponsor" or "summer" in any form of advertising.'

    Where the hell do they get off selling "Summer 2012" to some multinational corporation like the IOC? Those are English words, and this is England. Isn't this kind of thing the reason the English keep the Queen around? Isn't it "the Queen's English"? Is she getting some kind of kickback, which requires her to sell out her subjects? Get Elizabeth in here, Slashdot wants to talk with her.

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  17. I have an idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about we just cut the crap and stop trying to stop people from simply living. This is common sense; why are we letting corporate sponsors yet again judge where we can use common words in every day life because they're deemed competitive or inapprpriate? I don't even mean the words like "summer" or "games". If I want to throw up a sign that celebrates the Olympics, I should be able to for whatever reason.

    Maybe we can start a new trend of just selling our human rights for profit! Because right now they're just being stolen.

    1. Re:I have an idea... by uncoveror · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Common sense? That's a misnomer. Sense is not a common thing at all, at least in these times. Now that a business can't even say trademarked words if they aren't official sponsors, how long will it be until we are all so censored? "Intellectual Property", whether trademark or copyright, has become even more valuable than things that actually exist and can be held in your hand. This is stupid!

      The saddest part of this is that the modern Olympics were supposed to be a showcase for amateur athletics, and a global moment of peace and understanding, not something for greedy businessmen to get rich off of.

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    2. Re:I have an idea... by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I so wish I lived in London so I could flagrantly violate these laws and send the authorities a big fuck you.

      Will you all stop dealing with those big corporations? Become self-employed, cheat on your taxes, steal your media, buy your goods locally and stop helping those motherfuckers! Goddammit, please, please stop! It's not that hard!

      I'm going to go hit something now...

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    3. Re:I have an idea... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I so wish I lived in London so I could flagrantly violate these laws and send the authorities a big fuck you.

      Well, maybe the correct strategy would be the opposite: Obey that law to the letter and don't even mention the olympic games. Simply ignore them. TV magazines don't write the olympic game time tables (you know, they are not sponsors, so how could they mention the olympic games?), the journalists (not being sponsors either) don't report about the games (they aren't sponsors, and how could you report without using those words anyway?), ... I guess the sponsors would not like that.

      Of course the problem of this approach is that it will not really work.
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    4. Re:I have an idea... by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is just more evidence in favour of my own proposal for litigation reform in the US (and increasingly, the UK too). I call for the immediate introduction of the popular-vote plaintiff slap-test.

      The procedure is simple - before any civil court case is allowed to proceed, the first stage is a meeting between the judge, plaintiff and defendant. During this meeting all three go out onto the street and randomly pick three passers-by, who are then taken back to the judge's chamber.

      Each party then has three minutes to make their case to this "jury" (plaintiff goes first). If, at the end of the three minutes, the majority of the three don't want to slap the living shit out of the plaintiff, the case is allowed to proceed.

      Otherwise, and optionally, the jury-members would then be allowed to actually slap the shit out of the plaintiff for a five-minute period.

      I think this simple reform would do a great deal to alleviate the massive overload on our judicial system, slow or stem the flow of money from everyone else into the legal industry, promote personal responsibility, discourage frivolous lawsuits and make (some types of) jury duty actually fun.

      "I went to McDonalds and thre hot coffee in my lap, and it was hot!". Slap!
      "I want to sue this guy's company because he used the word 'Olympics', in an Olympic year, in the city where the Olympics were taking place! What a bastard!" Slap!

      Who's with me? Write your congressman.

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    5. Re:I have an idea... by bhiestand · · Score: 2, Informative

      The jurors thought the same thing, and one even remarked "I can't believe I'm here to settle a coffee spill.". They changed their minds very quickly once the evidence came out. Most people do.

      Although I agree with your entire idea, you are very much wrong about the McDonalds "hot coffee" lawsuit.

      I'll quote one of the articles about this. I'll try to sum it up so the lazy don't have to read the article, but I highly encourage doing some research.

      Some observers wonder why McDonald's, after years of settling coffee-burn cases, chose to take this one to trial. After all, the plaintiff was a sympathetic figure - an articulate, 81-year-old former department store clerk who said under oath that she had never filed suit before. In fact, she said, she never would have filed this one if McDonald's hadn't dismissed her requests for compensation for pain and medical bills with an offer of $800.
      This wasn't your typical frivilous suit. McDonalds refused to compensate her for 7 days in the hospital, third degree burns, and skin grafts. They refused to settle for her medical bills. So she decided to take a case to court. For the first time ever.

      When the panel reached the jury room, it swiftly arrived at the conclusion that McDonald's was liable. "The facts were so overwhelmingly against the company," says Ms. Farnham. "They were not taking care of their consumers."

      Then the six men and six women decided on compensatory damages of $200,000, which they reduced to $160,000 after determining that 20% of the fault belonged with Mrs. Liebeck for spilling the coffee.

      The jury then found that McDonald's had engaged in willful, reckless, malicious or wanton conduct, the basis for punitive damages. Mr. Morgan had suggested penalizing McDonald's the equivalent of one to two days of companywide coffee sales, which he estimated at $1.35 million a day. During the four-hour deliberation, a few jurors unsuccessfully argued for as much as $9.6 million in punitive damages. But in the end, the jury settled on $2.7 million.


      POSTSCRIPT - Following the trial of Ms. Liebeck's case, the judge who presided over it reduced the punitive damages award to $480,000, even though the judge called McDonald's conduct reckless, callous and willful. This reduction is a corrective feature built into our legal system. Furthermore, after that, both parties agreed to a settlement of the claim for a sum reported to be much less than the judge's reduced award. Another corrective feature.

      McDonalds had filed over 700 settlements relating to coffee burns in the years prior to this 1994 suit. They served their coffee over 20 degrees hotter than other restaurants. The difference between 180 degrees F and 160 degrees F is rather large. We're talking about whether you'll get a third degree burn in 2 seconds or whether it'll take 20 seconds. Consider how quickly you can react, and how quickly the coffee can cool off, you're fairly likely to stave off severe third degree burns with the slightly cooler coffee. McDonalds said they did this on the advice of their coffee experts, but it seems more likely that they merely wanted to keep the same crappy coffee good longer.

      I can't find all my links, but if memory serves right they had already been warned by governmental agencies, burn centers, and lawsuits from previous incidents. McDonald's executive Mr. Appleton even testified that they knew the coffee sometimes caused serious burns, but had never consulted a burn specialist nor did they have any plans to decrease the temperature of the coffee in the future.

      Basically, McDonalds was serving their coffee much hotter than the safe temperatures to serve coffee at. Third degree burns like this are extremely painful, require hospitalization, skin grafts, and lead to permanent disfigurement and sometimes disability. Add to that the percentage of these burns being to the groin and buttocks, and I'm sure you'll see why

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    6. Re:I have an idea... by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think there's a fundamental divide in approach here between the pro- and anti- camps. You've explained the pro- camp's position much more persuasively than anyone I've spoken to before. However, as an counterpoint, here's my (still anti-) take:

      When I make tea or coffee, it's hot. In fact, when I make coffee (generally instant), I use boiling water.

      Boiling water hurts, so I treat my coffee with respect, and if I accidentally spill it on myself I accept the consequences. Basically, I accept that it's potentially dangerous as the price of enjoying a hot, caffeinated pick-me-up.

      In fact, I'd prefer to get a cup of the hottest coffee I can hold, since then it'll last longer and I can drink it at my leisure. (Aside: If you'd ever been trapped on a commuter-train first thing in the morning, half-way to london enjoying one of the old British Rail's room-temperature cups of tea, you'll learn to appreciate really hot beverages ;-).

      Basically, coffee should be hot. I'd always assume coffee is going to be around boiling point, so I'm very careful. Irrespective of precisely how bad the outcome is, if I drop coffee in my lap I'm the sole person to blame.

      I can understand your point of view that if you assume the coffee is only going to be "warm" then you might not be as careful (and might get a nasty shock), but coffee is traditionally served hot, and fundamentally it's still your choice to be careless with a hot beverage. Frankly I doubt people are going to go "this coffee will cause third-degree burns so I'll stick it in a cup-holder on the other seat, while this coffee will only cause first-degree burns, so I'll stick it on my lap".

      To my mind, hot is hot, and injury is injury. If you deliberately and knowingly put yourself at risk of injury, you only have yourself to blame. I'd consider it dishonest to then sue the person who gave you the coffee because the injury you willingly risked turns out a bit worse than you'd expected. It's not like it dissolved her legs or exploded or killed her or anything - the injury was qualitatively the same, just a bit more serious than she'd (erroneously, carelessly) assumed.

      That's basically my position - you do something, you accept the consequences. You take a risk, you don't whinge if the negative outcome was worse than you assumed. Particularly if it's only worse because of a decision that's intended to improve the experience for every other customer.

      Wildly generalising, the two sides in the debate seem to break down into "do what you want, and accept all responsibility" and "people must be protected, even from themselves". Although in the US I'd probably be considered a liberal, I'm also great believer in personal responsibility, so I tend to fall on the "your fault, grow up and stop whining" side of the debate :-)

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    7. Re:I have an idea... by bhiestand · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You seem rather intelligent, and I generally agree with you. This case I just feel is a rather different story. Temperatures above 180 degrees... may as well be molten lava. If it touches you, you're screwed.

      I'm also rather biased because I don't have a cup holder in my vehicle :(. I've never done the coffee thing, but I've most certainly spilled other drinks on myself. If I drank more coffee simple probabilities would say that I should've had a coffee burn right now. If I drank McDs coffee daily, I would've had a McDs coffee burn by now.

      A mistake on her part, sure. The jury even said it was about 20% her fault. It wouldn't have happened if she didn't spill the coffee. But it wouldn't have been nearly as bad if she had gotten coffee from ANY other restaurant in the area, or from the standard home coffee-brewing machines.

      I know they're overused on slashdot, but let me make a little analogy. This is like making a car that is known to be significantly more dangerous. So much so that a 20kph accident can result in serious injury or even death to the occupants. You then stick a warning label on the car saying "This car is dangerous", and sell it. Somebody comes along, says "yeah, all cars are dangerous. More legal mumbo-jumbo", and proceeds to get in a 20kph accident. She is then disfigured for life because the car was designed to perform this way. Her fault entirely? The accident, yes. The results, no.

      This is coming from a non-lawyer who really hates lawyers, and thinks the american legal system needs a lot of reform, but I do believe that in safety situations any manufacturer has a responsibility to the general population to attempt to make things somewhat safe whenever possible. This is way things such as occupant restraint devices have become requirements in vehicles. If a person chooses not to wear it, fine, but don't set people up for this kind of failure.

      I've had 3rd degree burns before, and they are more than just a little injury. Maybe I'd understand if I could taste the difference between scorching hot coffee and really really hot coffee.

      One little aside:
      If you deliberately and knowingly put yourself at risk of injury, you only have yourself to blame.
      Try telling that to someone who does risk analysis for a living. I assure you you put yourself at risk for injury simply by typing this article.

      I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, though I at least see your viewpoint on it and it seems intelligent. I just get annoyed by people using it as an example of a frivilous lawsuit, because it really isn't. There are plenty of examples of real ones, this is just more famous and sounds even worse when you summarize it as "some woman spilled hot coffee on herself then sued McDonalds!"

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  18. In Vancouver [2010] as Well by blueadept1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    About a year back there was something like this going on in Vancouver, with alot of controversy. There was a man who owned a restaurant called "The Olympic" or something along those lines. The restaurant was around for 30+ years, and yet he still had to change the name of it. Although I understand the basis for these sorts of laws, sometimes it is a bit extreme. It should be restricted to some LOGICAL extent.

  19. Suggested Ad Terminology by DoctorMabuse · · Score: 5, Funny

    The international athletic event that takes place where city officials are willing to provide the biggest bribes to the committee is now in London.

    or

    The international athletic event where people from all countries use performance-enhancing drugs is now in London (and no it's not the Tour de France).

  20. I, for on, am all in favor of this. by Rahga · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "And advertisers' representatives have criticised the new Olympics bill because they believe it will make it almost impossible for most companies to even acknowledge that the Games are happening without getting into trouble."

    Good. It's time to kill of the olympics.

    A event like this only means something when the organization running it isn't corrupt from top to bottom. They have the nerve to tell ticket holders that "You can't drink Dr. Pepper here, but you can buy a $20 can of Coke! Coke is it!". The "Olympic Village" is now corporate-sponsored Sodom and Gomorrah. Home improvement companies spend millions on advertisements to say that they are proud to support their olympians ("You've got no marketable skills outside of athletics, so as long as you work 9-to-5 for minimum wage, we've got your back!").... I'm absolutley not surprised to see London sell themselves out by grabbing the Olympic bid.

    Now, if nobody CAN mention the Olympics, perhaps they'll just go away. We'll all be better off for it.

    1. Re:I, for on, am all in favor of this. by Kris_J · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Hear, hear.

      The Olympics has turned into just another way to turn public money into private money. Quite frankly, I can't think of a single legitimate reason for anyone to bid to be the host anymore.

  21. Not so easy in the UK by Potor · · Score: 3, Informative

    A large number of the pubs are owned by breweries in the UK. Only the pubs owned by the sponsor, or free houses not beholden to a chain, could use this approach.

  22. Re:Powerwalking-finals.torrent by Maestro4k · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Coming soon to your bittorrent sites. I wonder how the Olympics will handle torrents of their events. DMCA? Given the direction they seem to be taking they'll not have any problems because everyone will be so fed up with the restrictions that the stands will be near empty and everyone will find something else to watch on TV. I seem to remember stories from the Athens games where spectators weren't allowed to carry in even bottles of water if they weren't the brand of the official sponsor that provided the Olympics bottled water, now they're trying to get laws passed so they can restrict things even further.

    I've always loved the Olympics, I remember looking forward to them even as a child, but this type of crap is quickly making me lose all interest in them. I used to tape what aired while I was at work (or school in the past) so I could watch all the coverage, last Olympics I didn't tape a thing. I didn't watch as much either and the whole Death Grip on Advertising (tm) wasn't quite as bad as this sounds.

    So congrats to the IOC and their over-zealous "official" sponsors. It's not just anyone that can completely destroy something as special as the Olympics once were. Oh and just a tip for those official sponsors -- I don't tend to buy products from companies who encourage this type of behaivor, even if you are supporting the Olympics, so you might want to rethink your marketing strategies.

  23. There won't be olympics in 2012 anyways... by ModernGeek · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... our time traveling friend John Titor said there won't be Olympics after 2004 (dunno if this counts for the '06 winter olympics or not) due to too much conflict over the entire thing. It isn't until 2036 until they try and start it all back up again. I can't wait for this civil war to start, I'm gonna quit my job and head to the hills. I've learned to embrace his prophecy and understand the true meaning of life thanks to Titor.

    For those who don't know about John Titor


    P.S. Anyone know where I can find that video of him traveling time in his car when he goes BACK TO THE FUTURE?

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  24. Canadian Businesses by phorm · · Score: 2, Informative

    Canada is doing the same think. A local business in Vancouver, around for a decade (and long before the games were coming near here) was attacked by the olympic committee over having the olympic rings logo over the"Olympic Pizza" restaurant.

    It's big-business greed at it's very best, especially since the coming of the olympics will ensure that the Whistler skihill will be inaccessible to anybody but the rich, as the cost of attending the olympics is beyond many average folk, and the rates in the area are already skyrocketing in anticipation of the games.

    Olympics were around long before trademarks, and used to be for the people... now they're only for big-business and rich people, go figure.

  25. Me too. by Overzeetop · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I haven't been interested in the games since about 1984. I can't imagine a reason for wanting to attend in person. Overpriced tickets, hotels, food, everything. It would take two or three years of normal "vacation" budget to go to just part of an olymic games. They have become the "Jurassic Park" of enntertainment - they can charge anything they want, and do. And they don't even have a coupon day.

    I'd like to see everyone just ignore them. Unless I hear that the Swedish platform diver loses her bathing suit top and its caught on the underwater film camera, I doubt I'll even be interested much in the results, much less the actual telecast. (btw - that happened in 1984, and the vcr happened to be running. For a lad at the tender age of 15, it was a good reason to watch the olympics.)

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    1. Re:Me too. by caranha · · Score: 3, Funny

      Torrent?

  26. Europe?! by Wooky_linuxer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wake up. It's England.

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  27. Re:Ahh, Europe! by kindbud · · Score: 4, Informative
    Heck, even this "bill/law" would be too much for us in the USA.

    The USA has had similar laws with respect to the Olympics for some time now.

    The Olympic trademarks protected by statute (36 U.S.C. 220506(c)) include: the name "UNITED STATES OLYMPIC COMMITTEE"; the symbol of the International Olympic Committee, consisting of five interlocking rings; the words "Olympic, " "Olympiad" and "Citius Altius Fortius," and also the words "Paralympic," "Paralympiad," "Pan-American" and "America Espirito Sport Fraternite," or any combination of these words; the emblem of the United States Olympic Committee, consisting of an escutcheon having a blue chief and vertically extending red and white bars on the base with five interlocking rings displayed on the chief; and the symbols of the International Paralympic Committee and the Pan-American Sports Organization, consisting of a torch surrounded by concentric rings.


    Not just trademark law, but a special statute protects the Olympic trademarks.

    See INTA for more info about this, and of course, the text of 36 USC 220506 itself.

    By statute, the USOC may file a civil action against any person if that person, without consent of the USOC, uses the Olympic trademarks for the purpose of trade, to induce the sale of any goods or services, or to promote any theatrical exhibition, athletic performance, or competition. A showing of actual consumer confusion, or even a likelihood of such confusion, is not necessary for the USOC to prevail. ... The USOC is also not required to show that an unauthorized use of the Olympic trademarks is occurring in connection with goods or services similar to those on which the USOC has previously authorized use.


    Basically, the USOC owns these words and symbols exclusively, by Act of Congress. The UK is merely "harmonizing" with the USA.
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  28. Actually, it's a great opportunity. by jd · · Score: 4, Funny

    Think about it. Stores all over the country will have signs saying things like: "Get The Goods on a Barely Legal Date!", "Banned Substances at Discount Prices!" and "We Can't Say What We're Selling, but Come In And Get Some!"

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  29. meh by medelliadegray · · Score: 2, Interesting

    seriously,
    with the olympics becoming more and more like a professional sport with the advertising, lucrative contracts and shit, i am getting more and more turned off to it.

    If a country wants to host the olympics, the requirement should be that it have ZERO corporate logo's anywhere on the properties of the stadiums. and that news stations can get equal coverage of the games.

    Or better yet, LOTTERY off coverage of games. So that i dont have to flip through 12 channles of figure skating or gymnastics. I would like to check out some of the other sports--outside of what the news feeds think will get the best coverage.

    grrrr

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  30. England?! by Bogtha · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wake up. It's the UK.

    England's merely a region within the country known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It used to be a country in its own right, but that was hundreds of years ago.

    This bill is being proposed in Parliament, which makes law that applies to the whole of the UK, not just England.

    Oh, and the UK is part of Europe, just in case there's any misconception there. Us Brits have got into the habit of referring to continental Europe as "Europe", so sometimes it sounds like we aren't part of Europe, but that isn't the case.

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  31. Re:Ahh, Europe! by Bogtha · · Score: 3, Funny

    I cannot help but think you Europeans have surpassed the USA in 'slim-ness'.

    Let's be honest - that's not difficult, is it? :)

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  32. Happened in 2004 in Australia... by CaptainPotato · · Score: 3, Informative
    The Australian Olympic Committee (AOC) threatened non-sponsors in 2004 (ie - Athens Olympics, not Sydney Olympics). I know of one case in which a student union (I worked there at the time) produced posters to advertise that it was showing telecasts in one of its catering outlets.

    The posters were only on campus, but the AOC threatened legal action over them.

    Stupid thing is that the official advertisers would have only benefitted as by having more people watching the telecasts, more people would have been exposed to the advertising...

    Somewhat over the top, IMO.

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  33. Same in Australia by coldcup · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Australia did the same thing for the 2000 Olympics. Existing businesses were not forced to change their name though. (Or perhaps the only place I knew of that had 'olympic' in it was too small to worry about.)

  34. Re:Ahh, Europe! by geoffspear · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ooh, will you pay my legal bills when I release Microsoft Windows Longhorns and claim that trademark law is unconstitutional?

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  35. Well, Im screwed twice today then by AnotherEscobar · · Score: 4, Funny

    My plans for www.2012olympicgold.xxx are now officially on hold

    http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/16/15 38243&tid=153&tid=95&tid=103&tid=219

  36. What about the other 1.46b? by bezuwork's+friend · · Score: 2, Interesting
    ensuring corporate sponsors, who have provided £790m of the IOC's £2.25bn marketing revenue over the last four years

    So where did the other 2.25bn - 790m = 1.46b come from? I'm guessing from country contributions which came from their taxpayers.

    So do the taxpayors of these countries get to use all of these words too?

  37. Re:Ahh, Europe! by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 2, Funny

    What will European kids call what they play?

    XBOX.

  38. Re:hehe by surprise_audit · · Score: 2, Funny
    Ahhhh, irony...

    Blackadder: "Baldrick, have you no idea what irony is?"
    Baldrick: "Yeah! It's like goldy and bronzy, only it's made of iron."

  39. It's called the golden rule.. by MAdMaxOr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He who has the gold, makes the rules.

    BTW, At current exchange rates, this rule was bought at a price of 108 standard tons of gold. I was hoping to see how many Libraries of Congress that would fill, but that's only 181 cu. ft. Kinda disappointing really.

  40. Re:Ahh, Europe! by glwtta · · Score: 2, Funny
    the period of the year where it is warmer and the Earth is farther from the Sun

    Note that the OP seems to be a follower of the new theory of Intelligent Climate Control, which has been gaining ground in replacing the obsolete and largely discredited hypothesis that seasonal climate changes are caused by the tilt of the Earth's axis of rotation, which causes one of the two hemispheres to be exposed to more sunlight, depending on the Earth's position in its orbit around the Sun.

    Intelligent Climate Control states that the movement of celestial bodies is too complicated to understand through the laws of physics, and therefore climate changes must be the result of arbitrary control by a higher being.

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  41. The Brits have a well established solution.... by kiwi_damo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's called Cockney Rhyming Slang. eg. Tea-Leaf = Thief Dog-And-Bone = Phone Stuffy-Pricks = Olympics (I made that one up...can you tell?)

  42. (somewhere deep in the Ministry of Truth) by Wilson_6500 · · Score: 2, Funny

    parent doubleletter ungood indic possible twitch possible crimethink, reread antecomment.

    (Remember: Any deviation, no matter how slight, may indicate a thought criminal. I'm not a petty grammar Nazi, I'm watching your back!)

  43. Related bash.org by addictedavi · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Coke"®, "Coca-Cola"®, "The Real Thing"©, "Always"©, "It"©, "Christmas"©, "Summer"©, "The Olympics"© and most other words are owned by the Coca-Cola® Corporation. #246624

  44. A few years back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    About a decade ago, when the Olypics were in the US, there was a pizza delivery business in the same city as the games. It was named "Olypic Pizza".

    The olypic games' sponsorship branch sued the pants off the small-business owner, to get him to change the name of his business. Eventually he had to relent, after the legal fees nearly bankrupted him.

    Why did he fight it? Simple. The store was NAMED AFTER HIM, and he had been in business WITH A TRADEMARK ON "OLYPIC PIZZA" FOR OVER 10 YEARS!

    So because the olypic sponsors didn't to eal with the "ambush advertising" this guy represented, he had to give up the business name he had in the area FIRST, his trademark, and couldn't even use his full name during local interviews.

    Screw the olympics, and boycott every single damn company that sponsors them!

  45. Advertising template for non sponsors by fireman+sam · · Score: 5, Funny

    The London 2012 Olympic organisation has released this template for all companies that have not obtained a sponsorship deal.

    Example only:

    (Black screen)

    (each line of text fades in to white while the line is being read)

    Voiceover: "You know why you are here,
                            We know why you are here,
                            We cannot say why you are here,
                            While you are here,
                            Eat at Hungry Jacks."

    (fade in corporate logo)

    (fade to black)

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  46. Sponsors to demand Olympic Letter Management (OLM) by xixax · · Score: 5, Funny

    LOMDON (AP) - A consortium of corporate sponsors today announced the Olympic Letter Management (OLM) initiative to enact mandatory technological measures to prevent uncontrolled use of alphabetic characters to steal valueable Intellectual Property.

    "It's outrageuous!" exclaimed OLM spokesperson Bert Kneecapper, "After TrendySportingShoe(TM) spends billions buying Olympic (TM) naming rights, some thieving punk can steal our trademarks using a 20c crayon bought from any corner store!"

    Under the OLM initiative, and device capable of reproducing alphabetic characters must implement a mechanism to honour the OLM Tradkemark flag, thereby preventing the device from reproducing trademarked sequences unless a valid licence exists. With time, they intend the service to extend to the enforcement of other text controls, such as micro-payments for use of famous quotes, and retrospective editing of history books.

    Bert Kneecapper went on reject crayon manufacturer representations that the scheme was impractical, "Our members lose billions of dollars in un-earned revenue, how can they justify 20c crayons in the face of such flagerant theft?".

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  47. Oh come on by MochaMan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where's your Olympic* spirit my friend?

    * (c), (R), Patent Pending, void where prohibited by law. "Olympic" is a registered trademark of the International Olympic Comittee. All materials and content related to the Olympic Games, including, but not limited to, images, illustrations, text, audio clips, and video clips, are protected by or consist of copyrights, trademarks, service marks, and/or other intellectual property rights ("Intellectual Property"). The Intellectual Property is governed and protected by United States and worldwide copyright, trademark, and/or other intellectual property laws and treaty provisions, privacy and publicity laws, and communications regulations and statutes. The Intellectual Property is owned or controlled by us or other parties that have licensed to us the right to use their Intellectual Property or the right to market their products and/or services (collectively the "IP Providers").

    You agree to abide by all additional copyright notices, information, or restrictions contained in any material or content on the Site. Other than as may be expressly permitted by us, in writing, (i) the Intellectual Property is provided solely for your personal, non-commercial use; and you may download any Intellectual Property solely for your personal, non-commercial use, consistent with these Terms, provided that you maintain all copyright and other notices contained in such Intellectual Property. You may not copy, reproduce, republish, upload, post, transmit, distribute, and/or exploit any Intellectual Property in any way (including by e-mail or other electronic means) without our prior written consent or that of the IP Providers - particularly the words 'Olympic', 'games', 'gold', 'silver', 'bronze', 'doping scandal', 'bribery', and other words that are implicit in the Olympic Games. Modification of any Intellectual Property or use of any Intellectual Property for any other purpose is a violation of the copyrights, trademark rights, and other proprietary rights; that includes photoshopped naughty images of Jacques Rogge. The use of any Intellectual Property on any other site or networked computer environment, or maintaining unauthorized links to the Site, is prohibited by these Terms.

  48. Has it been four years already? by B747SP · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This stuff is all standard when the Five Ringed Circus comes to town. Back when Sydney, Australia had its turn in 2000, all the same stuff went on.

    When you consider that Australia (the city of Melbourne, Australia strictly speaking), has the highest population of Greek folks of any city in the world outside of Greece (and Sydney isn't too far behind) then you can bet your bottom dollar that there's going to be a fair swag of small "Mom-and-Pop" businesses, corner stores, etc with some form of 'Olypic' in the name.

    Our newspapers regularly carried stories of small businesses being steamrollered by IOC Corporation and its hired thugs (by hired thugs, I mean the government of the host country).

    Another common story was the officials and security being briefed to look out for spectators and general public wearing promotional gear (hats, t-shirts, etc) from companies that competed with official sponsors. A coca cola t-shirt for example would leave you being offered the choice of handing it over, covering up, or going home.

    Despite all the talk of leaving town for the duration, etc, etc, I did end up sticking around (but I didn't get involved in any of the events organised by IOC Corporation). Strangely, Sydney was a really really nice place to be for those two weeks. Many people dreaded the five ringed circus coming to town, but by the time they packed up their tents and their wagons and rolled out of town again, many of the same were sad to see them go.

    That ain't no excuse for steam rollering thousands of little people in the name of corporate greed though. IOC Corporation has NOTHING to do with sport, excellence, peace, tradition or ANY of that nice stuff - it's about corporations and hired governments pumping the people for money.

    Me, I make careful note of the companies that sponsor IOC Corporation, and put them on my personal do not buy list for life.

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    1. Re:Has it been four years already? by gfreeman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Me, I make careful note of the companies that sponsor IOC Corporation, and put them on my personal do not buy list for life.

      More difficult that you may imagine. The 2008 games has three levels of corporate support. Will you be shunning the partners, the sponsors, or the exclusive suppliers? What about previous games - will you be boycotting them for life?

      It will affect your TV viewing:
      GE - so no NBC for you
      Disney - so no ABC for you (or ESPN)
      Sony - so no CBS for you

      Also your movie/dvd watching habits will change:
      GE - so no Universal for you
      Disney - so no Miramax for you (or Touchstone)
      Sony - so no Columbia for you

      The list goes on and on. No Blockbuster, no Paramount, no BMG, no MGM, no Playstation. Philips sponsored the Olympics - so will you be buying CDs?

      You've opened a can of worms for yourself by announcing a personal boycott of a few large mega-giga-omni-corporations: they really do run the way of life in our society now. Luckily, not in the world, just yet, but you can bet that they are working on that.

      Sad, isn't it?

      (*)Actually, not sure Disney ever sponsored a summer games ... but you get the gist. They did sponsor a special olympics though.

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  49. Re:Ah, the Olympics by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No doubt. The way the Olympics have been run in recent memory is sad. They guard anything that has to do with the olympics so closely, any spirit of friendly compitition has been lost.

    I remember a few years ago, atheletes weren't able to keep and publish an online journal about their experiences, so fans could get an unspoiled perspective of what the atheletes saw. That's bordering on insane.

    To make matters worse, television coverage of the games is miserable. In an hour of coverage, you'll get 15 minutes of commericals, 25 minutes of sappy "human interest" stories (This is young Nadia's first olympic games *cue heart strings music* she had to face a lot of challenges to get here, because just two years before the games, her belowed cat Mittens died from old age), 10 minutes of "what you'll see later on" and mindless chatter of the comentators ("You know, Bob, the sun that comes out over Athens during the day is the exact same sun that shines over America." "No, I didn't know that. That's so fascinating, especially since America is so far away", and a whopping 10 minutes of actual coverage of atheletic compitition.

    I'm not kidding.

    Essentially, the commericalism of the games have robbed it of its soul, and America's TV coverage has made it unwatchable. And forget about trying to enjoy the opening ceremonies; the commentators must be paid by the word, because they don't know when the shut up.

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  50. It hasn't been written into law by EnglishTim · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's a proposed law. There's lots of opportunities for it to be thoroughly mauled before it gets into the statute books.

    1. Re:It hasn't been written into law by garcia · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wrong, in the US it's established law:

      From this Star Tribune article:

      The band's lawyer, Dennis Pelowski, said it considered fighting the committee after receiving the initial letter this spring but backed down when he read up on the matter.

      "The law is pretty clearly written," he said.

  51. Re:Ah, the Olympics by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The olympics are supposed to be not-for-profit. I've been sitting here trying to think of an orginization, for-profit or otherwise that's worse then the Olympics, and am comming up blank.

    Even the RIAA (the orginization we all love to hate) isn't as bad. If IOC members ran the RIAA, they'd file injunctinos against financial institutions for using "CD" as an acronym for certificates of deposit.

    As I said elsewhere on this discussion, the only single group I can point at as being worse is the Church of Scientology. When being measured in things like lack of ethics and greed, and you end up somewhere between the RIAA and the CoS, that doesn't say a good thing.

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  52. In other news... by born_to_live_forever · · Score: 2, Funny

    LONDON (Reuters) - In a press release, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) today announced its intention to pursue legal action against Robert Louis Stevenson, over his poem Summer Sun, for two "illicit" uses of the word "golden", and one of the word "summer".

    Stevenson, being long dead, declined to respond. However, visitors to his grave on Mount Vaea on Upolu, Samoa, have reported hearing a grinding sound from underground, as of something rotating in the dirt.

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  53. I've been against this from the beginning by Builder · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was cheering for Paris all the way through the selection process.

    As a result of London winning the olympics, my council tax is going to go up. I have to pay more each month for the next several years, to make the IOC richer. What did I do wrong ? I simply picked the wrong place to live.

    Apparantly about 300 businesses are being forced off their land for this circus as well, and the potential job losses look to number around 20,000 at the moment. This is 20,000 local people who will be out of work so that some people can run around in circles.

  54. Re:"Queen's English" - US expression? by born_to_live_forever · · Score: 2, Informative

    Is the "Queen's English" an American expression? Can anybody give me the root of where this phrase came from? In the UK I'm more aware of people talking about "BBC English" (but this is as much to do with pronunciation).

    Oh, for shame...

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  55. Re:Summer 2012 by CitizenJohnJohn · · Score: 2, Funny

    "I guess we won't be having a Summer in 2012" No different from any other year in the UK then.

  56. Olympics(tm) suck my balls(tm)! by t_allardyce · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is exactly what happened in the last Olympics and the one before that, this is basically what the Olympics is about. As a Londoner I say go with it - Im not going to bother watching any of that bullshit, but if it means we can fleece stupid tourists out of their money and can all get something out of this for free (more transport systems etc) then go for it! You just have to remember that the Olympics is a bastardised version of some ancient Greek custom and its sole purpose is to make wonga. As far as im concerned, sponsors can have their advertising and businesses can make their profit as long as the general population is not going to be hampered by this, the locals are the most important people here.

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  57. Re:How can it be trademarked? by N+Monkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    How can the olympics be trademarked when the term was originated a couple thousand years ago in Greece? Sure, they can trademark the interlocking circle glyph, but the word?

    And in news just in, Mount Olympus has been summonsed to appear in court in London for breach of the 2012 Olympic Corporation's trademark.

  58. Now we know why we eat snickers by tod_miller · · Score: 2, Funny

    And not Marathon as I still miss.

    Damn you Mars!

    I hope Heineken make an 'illegal' NOT THE OLYMPICS can of lager.

    Like they did with the Pint can of Lager 'contravenes some daft euro law!!'

    Great, more British than British!

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