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Steve Nixon writes "Free-flowing beer, live music, karaoke and arcade games kept the party raging at the Googleplex the other night, but the real action was unfolding inside a sterile conference room at Google's headquarters. That's where the cunning internet entrepreneurs who constantly try to manipulate Google's search engine results for a competitive edge were trying to make the most of a rare opportunity to match wits face-to-face with the company's top engineers."
Another google story?
.07 just came out - http://nutch.org/ - i'm loading it up on mozdex through next week :)
Cool as it is, it just aint that cool.
Mod me down if you want, call me biased but there is tons of other "news for nerds" besides some corporation who is after your dollar.
For some cool search news, Nutch
Site was slow when i tried to load it, here's the copy:
MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. -- Free-flowing beer, live music, karaoke and arcade games kept the party raging at the Googleplex the other night, but the real action was unfolding inside a sterile conference room at Google's headquarters.
That's where the cunning internet entrepreneurs who constantly try to manipulate Google's search engine results for a competitive edge were trying to make the most of a rare opportunity to match wits face-to-face with the company's top engineers.
Google's code-talking experts, despite putting on a show of being helpful, weren't about to reveal their "secret sauce" -- Google's tightly guarded formula for ranking websites.
But that didn't zap the energy from the "Google Dance" -- an annual summer party that's become a metaphor for the behind-the-scenes twists and turns that can cause websites to rise and fall in Google's search results. For the millions of websites without a well-known domain name, those rankings can mean the difference between success or failure because Google's search engine drives so much of the internet's traffic.
"Being on the first page of Google's results is like gold," said website consultant Gordon Liametz, one of the roughly 2,000 guests at this year's party, held earlier this month at Google's colorful corporate campus.
The webmasters and their consultants paid particularly close attention to Google engineer Matt Cutts, the company's main liaison with the webmaster community and this party's star attraction.
"That's the Mick Jagger of search!" exclaimed e-marketing strategist Seth Wilde as he strolled by Cutts and his audience of webmasters.
Cutts, who has worked at Google for five years, sees it differently. "I feel more like the Rick Moranis of search because I end up dealing with so many quirky and weird cases," he said.
With so much at stake, low-ranked websites spend much time and money trying to elevate their standing, even if they must resort to deception. The tactics include "keyword stuffing" -- peppering a web page with phrases associated with a specific topic such as "laptop computers" in hopes of duping the software "spiders" that troll the internet to feed Google's growing search index.
It's a risky strategy because Google and other search engines penalize websites that get caught gratuitously repeating the same word. In the worst cases, the offending websites are deleted from the index so they don't show up in search results at all.
Sometimes webmasters collude to populate their sites with a large number of incoming links from other sites. This approach makes a site appear more authoritative and popular than it really is and thus rise in rankings.
Such dirty tricks pollute the search results with websites that have little to do with a user's request, frustrating consumers, diminishing Google's credibility and threatening to undermine the company's profits by driving users to its rivals.
Not surprisingly, Google works hard to thwart the mischief makers, sometimes branded as "Black Hats" because of their subterfuge. Engineers frequently tweak the algorithms that determine the rankings, sometimes causing websites perched at the top to fall a few notches or, worse, even plunge to the back pages of the results.
Google's reshuffling raised so many anxieties that webmasters in 2002 began to name the changes after hurricanes and infamous events. One particularly unpopular change Google rolled out in 2003 was dubbed "Florida" after the muddled ballot count in the 2000 presidential election.
Hoping to ease the tensions with webmasters, Google hatched the idea of its "dance" party during an annual search engine convention held in Silicon Valley, just a few miles from Google's headquarters. The company invited some of the Black Hats, effectively welcoming the foxes into the hen house.
"Google realized it was never going to get rid of these (Black Hats), so it decided it may as well work with them," Chris Winfield, a Google Dance party veteran who runs 1
tourettes
If your friends have space on servers, have them post lots of links to your site. If possible, put up a few splopgs with links. Even pay money for people to put up a few links. The google engine works by numbers of links, so... yah... thats how to googlebomb.
mmm, and fr15t p05t.
Didn't many people request to restrict G news to just 4 a day.
1. Identify search engine manipulators
2. Invite them to a party
3. Poison their drinks
4. optional - Cut them open, staple their guts to their forheads, take pictures and send to their moms.
5. Profit.
That's why I like www.clusty.com. Everyone is concerned about elevating their website so that they are the first page/topranking of Google's results. For example the word "RAM", is memory, animal and technically sex related.
Clusty would have split into 3 separate cluster trees. In google it would just be out of balance.
As seen here:
http://news.yahoo.com/i/528
a fairly good percentage of these go on to appear as slashdot stories.
http://www.welton.it/davidw/
What were the actual results of them going face to face? I mean, it's great to talk about all of that free beer and arcade games, but I think at the very least people here on slashdot would like to know how Google vs. Exploiters turned out.
Derive Politics
So apparently "don't be evil" doesn't explicitly prohibit consorting with evil, inviting evil over for cocktails, having a few drinks with evil and in a moment of passion revealing heretofore unknown details of PageRank... If Google's livelihood is contingent on destroying these people, I hope they put something in the fruit punch...
What exactly is this article about?
I mean, it reads like a random collection of thoughts about Google.
IMO, not one iota of useful information.
News for nerds? Very debatable.
Stuff that matters? Certainly not.
--
hawkeye
...does google's popularity start to wane? There's a growing sense of frustration with them, and I've found that many other search engines yield better results, so it is a matter of time before internet users at large start using something else?
Granted, I think the reasons that their results are not good is that there are SO many of these black hats trying to pollute their index, so in a sense, they are falling victim to their own success.
Jerry
http://www.cyvin.org/
What is the point of the article? What is new in the article? Why is this on slashdot? What the hell?
Nethack is no longer the king
Of course this news post mattered, and you liked reading it. If you logged in this morning and there was no new news story, you would be upset. If there was a slew of interesting news that happened between last night and this morning, then this story would not have been posted. Because nothing happened, we get this. And I thank /. for giving me something to read with my morning coffee.
If this story was so stupid, pointless, and a waste of time, then how would you describe your comments to it? When I get to articles that don't interest me, and I think are wasting my time, I sure as hell don't waste more of my life telling others how much I didn't like reading it.
"Free-flowing beer, live music, karaoke and arcade games kept the party raging at the Googleplex the other night..."
is that why gmail has been down for the last two days?
Maybe with all the partying, that is why my adsense questions haven't been answered.
Free-flowing beer
So I guess Google really is free as in beer.
Wired doesn't have "stories" of their own any more, since they laid off all their reporters. This story is from the Associated Press. So don't link to Tired.
Even the mighty slashdot can't take on wired.com
Nutch is very cool. Ironically (considering your argument), parts of Nutch (the NFS, MapReduce) appear to be based on well-known Google papers (GFS, MapReduce).
Some blogger found pictures of the party hosted on google's own servers. looks like they haven't come around to releaseing them yet...
http://obli.net/item/168
http://google.com/googledance2005
"a fairly good percentage of these go on to appear as slashdot stories"
That's not true, a fairly good percentage of these go on to appear as TWO slashdot stories.
Google Mechs, Webmasters Tingle
Here's a better story from "Jensense", one of THE contextual advertising bloggers.
Thank you for saying what I was about to.
Nobody forces them to read this.
How many fulltime jobs can one man have?
And here are the pictures of the Google Dance 2005: http://www.google.com/googledance2005/
If you don't like Google go to another website, but sooner or later you will realise that Google is god when it comes to internet search, despite Yahoo! claiming to be bigger.
Why hate Google?
Too Slow (unlikely),
No results (people are constantly looking for a 1 resulted search GoogleWhack),
Bad GUI (it's clean and simple),
No custom page layouts (check Google IG).
Come on people, Google has everything you need and more, why hate it?
But in the top right corner there's still a "search this site with google" (http://lucene.apache.org/nutch/).
How cute!
well hey. thank you there /. editors for another article that really doesn't tell us anything. i'm enticed by the link you threw in there as well.
I find Dial doesn't dry my skin like Ivory soap...
someone asked didn't they?
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