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Python vs. Alligator

evil agent writes "Fox News is reporting an incident in Everglades National Park where a python tried to swallow an alligator whole, causing it to explode. A picture of the aftermath is also provided. Scientists say that these python vs. alligator battles are becoming more frequent due to pet owners who discard the nonnative pythons in the Everglades."

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  1. Don't RTFA by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wait for Dave Barry's column on it.

    1. Re:Don't RTFA by Ridcully · · Score: 1

      I think I'll just wait for them to make it into a SciFi Channel movie.

    2. Re:Don't RTFA by ikkonoishi · · Score: 4, Informative
  2. Olioliolioooooo! by kyouteki · · Score: 1

    Urrg....crab.....battle!

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  3. Methinks mayhaps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Perhaps the Alligator should stick to Perl and stay away from Python(s).

    1. Re:Methinks mayhaps by biryokumaru · · Score: 5, Funny

      I seriously thought it was a comparison between Python and some scripting language I'd never heard of called Alligator.

      I need to get out to the swamp more.

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    2. Re:Methinks mayhaps by arodland · · Score: 1

      Not quite, but there is this guy Alligator Descartes

  4. FoxNews? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Fox News? You're using that as a source?

    Oh wait, I see it's under the "It's funny. Laugh." Category.

    1. Re:FoxNews? by bobv-pillars-net · · Score: 1

      Why do you think they call it "Faux News" ?

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    2. Re:FoxNews? by falconwolf · · Score: 1

      Fox News? You're using that as a source?

      CNN has it as well. That's where I first saw it.

      Falcon
    3. Re:FoxNews? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      No, the jokes are the dickheads who continually try to discredit a Fox News because they do more Republican-fellating than their preferred news source-disguised-as-heathen speak.

      Aymen to that.

      Fox News recently argued successfully in court that they had a right to lie and distort the news.

      http://www.relfe.com/media_can_legally_lie.html

  5. Toilets by ozTravman · · Score: 3, Funny

    People by them when they are young and cute... then flush them down the toilet. Some just need to watch what they eat...

    1. Re:Toilets by Agent__Smith · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Don't forget, humans are on the food menu too. It goes for both Phyton and Alligator. It is bad when the pets want to have you for lunch."

      In Soviet Russia, animals eat you!!

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  6. snopes says yes by pipingguy · · Score: 5, Informative


    http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/snakegator. asp

    1. Re:snopes says yes by mzs · · Score: 1
      From the FAQ:
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      If you are visiting our site but are seeing pictures of Mr. Yuk in place of our graphics, the most likely causes are that you are going through a proxy server, or you are using a firewall or browser configured in such a way that it does not present valid referrer information to our web server.

      Are you using something like Privoxy so that no referrer info is sent?

    2. Re:snopes says yes by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      David is a "programmer" and the snopes site has become so popular recently that it would be stupid for them to *not* do something like this.

      Used to be that Dave would email me privately, but now, no. All that smarty-pants, TV, radio stuff made him into some bigshot bigywig. [/Moe]

  7. Pffft by droptone · · Score: 2, Informative

    We all know the ultimate battle is Bear v. Shark, anyway (a great book regardless).

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    1. Re:Pffft by xanthines-R-yummy · · Score: 1
      I thought it was Shark v Gorilla.

      Ask any scientician!

    2. Re:Pffft by Biking+Viking · · Score: 1

      Apparently, the bear won. http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Bear-Shark

  8. Now that's what you call.... by countach · · Score: 4, Funny


    biting off more than you can chew.

    1. Re:Now that's what you call.... by mikekreein · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that python's eyes were definitely bigger than it's stomach...

    2. Re:Now that's what you call.... by phxbadash · · Score: 1

      Not anymore.

  9. Coming up next on Fox... by ArmorFiend · · Score: 4, Funny

    Winner of Python versus Alligator advances to take on Giant Squid!

    1. Re:Coming up next on Fox... by tprox · · Score: 1

      I think they both lost :)

    2. Re:Coming up next on Fox... by Alsee · · Score: 1
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  10. Oh God. by wbren · · Score: 1

    Stories about extreme animal fights are making headlines? Slashdot has turned into digg.com

    Can you say "giant octopus eats shark"? :-)

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  11. Hmm by cbrocious · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wonder what exception got thrown for that one...

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    1. Re:Hmm by gstoddart · · Score: 1
      Wonder what exception got thrown for that one...

      Dunno, but it obviously dumped core.
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  12. More pictures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  13. Looks like Python had a core dump by drgonzo59 · · Score: 5, Funny

    def eatGator(gator):
    ....try:
    ........digestGator(gator)
    ....except:
    ........dumpCore(gator)
    ........sys.exit(1)

  14. Oblig. Dilbert by Wilson_6500 · · Score: 3, Funny

    But first, why oh why is this headed with "science"?

    There's more to science than hurting animals... but, frankly, it's the part that I like best.

  15. Damn by styrotech · · Score: 5, Funny

    And there I was thinking Alligator was some sort of new programming language.

  16. Funny? I think not. by line-bundle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe it's just that most slashdotters don't read articles, but I did read the article and it seems an environmental problem of some concern.

    1. Re:Funny? I think not. by m50d · · Score: 1

      Come on, an exploding snake is hilarious no matter what the serious consequences.

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    2. Re:Funny? I think not. by Atzanteol · · Score: 1

      Are you sure you read it? A snake exploded eating a crocodile!

      Man if you don't think that's hysterical then I don't know what you'll find funny...

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    3. Re:Funny? I think not. by joeslugg · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't worry. This is the whole reason why we have Whacking Day right?

    4. Re:Funny? I think not. by blincoln · · Score: 1

      I can totally see it happening, too.

      I've been taking care of a friend's California Kingsnake for a few months. He's a little ~meter-long constrictor with a cute garter-snake face.

      One time when I was feeding him a mouse, he started eating it backwards*. So there's this little snake head, totally expanded to engulf the mouses's ass. The mouse's back legs were splayed out sideways, but he kept trying to get it down for about half an hour before he gave up and went around the other way. The mouse was dead by then from constriction, but somehow its eyes had been left WIDE OPEN, so it looked like something out of a cartoon.

      * apparently this is fairly common for snakes raised in captivity. They never have to learn the hard way that not all prey is as easy to eat as mice. I imagine a bigger snake eating a live rat ass-first would get pretty bloody.

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  17. Oh... the animals. by IorDMUX · · Score: 1

    I'm going to assume that most of us, reading the title and then clicking "Read more..." like a good slashdotter, came here expecting a showdown (or what passes for it in the comment sections) between programming languages.

    ...I know I did.

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  18. It's about the movies man.

    When the Aligator vs Python match is decided we'll segway to the Godzilla vs. Mothra match and find out which contestants will vie for the championship round!

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  19. Re:Exception by SolitaryMan · · Score: 1

    Stomach Overflow

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  20. All right... by telstar · · Score: 1

    Who gave the alligator pop rocks and coke?

    1. Re:All right... by (1+-sqrt(5))*(2**-1) · · Score: 1
      Who gave the alligator pop rocks and coke?
      Dude: that classic saw from the eighties is almost on par with onanistic cecity.
  21. Burmese python by rookworm · · Score: 1

    This is why we should not buy non-indiginous pets and the release them into the wild.

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  22. In memorial by FidelCatsro · · Score: 2, Funny

    Poor Eric Idle *Sniff* He should of realised he couldn't swallow an alligator whole

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    1. Re:In memorial by SimilarityEngine · · Score: 2, Funny
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    2. Re:In memorial by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      I should have pointed this out to you earlier, but your use of "should of" illustrates two possible situations:

      - you are 14
      - you are ignorant

      Being 14 is OK, but if you don't know the difference by the time you're 25 you need remedial reading classes.

      I now await the inevitable vitriolic venting of the teenage mindset. Yay.

  23. Re:Why? by FidelCatsro · · Score: 1

    "This is already in the regular news sites"
    Well . because normally people on slashdot are not (Um.. how can i put this politely )"On the same level" as fox news aficionados , so we are likely to miss it out .... as much of a fine reputable unbiased news source as fox is .
    And stories about Giant animal battles are the stuff of nerd fights ..
    EG: Star destroyer Vs Enterprise

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  24. Re:Exception by Joe+Random · · Score: 1

    I think you mean:

    PyErr_SetString(PyExc_OverflowError, "Gator overflow in digestion buffer");

  25. Lesson about purple worms by lilmouse · · Score: 1

    Just remember - this contains an important lesson for adventuring in the bottom level of the dungeon:

    If you get swallowed by a purple worm, don't give up hope! Keep on hacking away!

    --LWM

  26. Re:Why? by jonadab · · Score: 1

    > Star destroyer Vs Enterprise

    Now, that's an interesting one. On the one hand, the star destroyer is MUCH larger (even than the Galaxy-class Enterprise D). On the other hand, the Enterprise has a competent crew of protagonists onboard.

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  27. Some folks have a wierd "static" idea of nature by Julian+Morrison · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's as if there weren't such thing as invasive species before humans came along to transplant them.

    Seriously, what you have there is an example of evolution in action. The snakey equivalent of a Darwin award. At some point over the next half-milennium, a new ecological balance will stabilize between indigenous gators and feral snakes. Either one will be the top predator, or they'll stay mutual predators, but with a better appreciation of "don't bite off more than you can chew". Meanwhile all the other beasties will match their habits to the new predator's methods - or die out, as it always has been and always shall.

    What's so special about eg: "endangered woodstorks" that makes their species worthy to get a free pass on evolution?

    1. Re:Some folks have a wierd "static" idea of nature by derdesh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While you have a good point, it is important to remember that since the rise of human civilization and the spread of our species across the planet the number and rate of invasive species introductions have increased by orders of magnitude. Over geologic time ecosystems get invaded by a new species and reach a new equilibrium. Today systems are invaded by dozens of new species in the space of decades.

      As to why we should care about a particular species... different people have diverse reasons. But at the very least our own species is dependent upon functioning ecosystems, and we don't yet completely understand how they work. Large predators (like alligators) are often "keystone species" which have effects throughout the entire system, and removing them might have chaotic results we can't imagine.

      Or it might not. But one of my favorite epigrams on the subject is from Aldo Leopold: "The first rule of intelligent tinkering is to save all the pieces."

  28. how embarrassing by kwoff · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just imagine, you're an alligator, and you got owned by a snake. It's not bad enough that it ate you, but now you're hanging out there on display for the whole swamp to see.

  29. Would you like an after-dinner mint? by kenl999 · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's wafer thin...

  30. Sounds llike a SCI Fi channel movie by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

    1. Alien
    2. Predator
    3. Alien v. Predator
    4. Crocodile
    5. Python
    6. Crocodile v. Python

    PROFIT!!!!!

  31. Obligatory by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

    Gator
    Gator
    Gator
    SNAKE
    Its a snake

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  32. whitespace by tepples · · Score: 1

    Truth is, Slashdot editors were probably just trolling for jokes about a python exploding from eating too much whitespace.

  33. Python vs. alligator in swamp by falconwolf · · Score: 1

    Yea, CNN has it as well.

    Falcon
  34. Some just need to watch what they eat... by falconwolf · · Score: 1

    Yea, more people need to eat gator tail. It's about the best meat I've had. That and wild hog.

    I can see it now, instead of people complaining about how a gator ate their dog they'll be complaining that a python ate it.

    Falcon
  35. Don't forget, humans are on the food menu too. by falconwolf · · Score: 1

    Gator tail is on human's menu also.

    Falcon
  36. python+alligator = explosion! by Darius+Jedburgh · · Score: 1

    Homeland security had better outlaw either pythons or alligators on planes otherwise terrorists might use them to make binary weapons that can't be detected by traditional explosive sniffing devices.

  37. environmental problems by falconwolf · · Score: 1

    Maybe it's just that most slashdotters don't read articles, but I did read the article and it seems an environmental problem of some concern.

    Invasive species are a big problem. Those who deal with kudzu in the Southeastern US or zebra mussels in the Great Lakes know this.

    Falcon
  38. enterprise by falconwolf · · Score: 1

    A star destroyer would below the crap out of the enterprise, A, B, C, D or E. Any enterprise is completely outclassed by something the size of a star destroyer.

    I don't know given enough Star class Enterprises, they can destroy a Gates, er Borg, Cube.

    Falcon
    1. Re:enterprise by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 1

      Depends on the Star Destroyers shields. If they can prevent the beaming over of photon torpedos all over the damn place, then they'll most likely win. If not, well... we do know that a Star Destroyer will crash once its bridge is destroyed. I mean if a single A-Wing can take one out, then a couple few photon torpedo suppositorys out to do the trick.

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  39. re: Python vs. Alligator by triso · · Score: 1

    Well "Python vs. Alligator" doesn't mean much on Slashdot. How about: "Python vs. Cup of Coffee," "Python vs. Red Gemstone" or "Python vs. Oyster Secretion."

  40. Re:Why? by jonadab · · Score: 1

    > A star destroyer would below the crap out of the enterprise, A, B, C, D or E. Any enterprise
    > is completely outclassed by something the size of a star destroyer.

    Sure, in terms of hardware. The size ratio is something like a thousand to one, and the firepower ratio is pretty unballanced too. But the star destroyer (unless it happens to be Vader's flagship, and even then to a large extent) is run pretty much entirely by bumbling dolts who don't understand the first thing about running a starship, much less a military exercise.

    They couldn't even handle the Millennium Falcon when it pulled simple tricks like hiding in an asteroid field or behind the backside of the star destroyer's own control deck, and that's *with* Vader's guidance. What makes you think they're going to be able to handle a ship (any ship) run by intelligent protagonists who know how to recalibrate deflector relays and reverse tachyon fields? Heck, Spock and Scotty could probably take on the average star destroyer (sans Vader) in a shuttlecraft, with a tricorder, a pair of hand phasers, and some spare superconductor wire. It would seem impossible, sure, but then the Empire's bumbling admirals would stand around looking puzzled and giving stupid orders like "Track them!" and making inane comments like "No ship that small has a cloaking device!", and meanwhile the protagonists would be crawling through ductwork, hacking into the central computer, mapping out a path to the bridge, and improvising weapons out of parts stolen from access panels during the process of patching into the ship's power, weapons, and life support systems.

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  41. Care for some chili? by falconwolf · · Score: 1

    Quetzlzacatenango

    I don't recall having heard of Quetzlzacatenango peppers and being a chilihead, the hotter the better, I googled "Quetzlzacatenango" but didn't get any results so I tried Alta Vista. It returned more than a thousand results and looking at some of them I saw they all mentioned "simpson". So I included "NOT simpson" and it returned 42, then when I included "NOT homer" it didn't return any. I tried it on Lycos and supprised I come across "WARNING! Do not try Dave's total insanity hot sauce." Now that's the HOTTEST sauce I've ever had, and I LOVE it!

    This brings up something I find weird, I like to go into shops that sell peppers and hot sauce, and I'll ask what's the hottest sauce they sale. Not one tyme have I been told Dave's is the hottest even though they'll have it on a shelf. So I'll ask to try what they say is hottest and not one is as hot. I wonder if Quetzlzacatenango peppers are what is used, and if so if I can get ahold of some seeds. I'd love to grow some.

    Falcon
    1. Re:Care for some chili? by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 1
      Alas, they do not truly exist:-( It is from an episode of the Simpsons in which Chief Wiggums makes a chili so hot that not even Homer can handle it. I grew 19 pepper plants this season but, with Oregon weather being rather fickle, the harvest will be pretty modest. I have not tried Dave's Insanity yet. The hottest commercial sauce I've had is Scorned Women (very good, good stuff). Since I've been growing peppers the last few years, though I mostly use homemade Hot Sauce.

      I don't know if you've grown them, but chile peppers are actually fairly easy to grow. As long as they get lots of sun, warm temperatures, and moderate watering they do great;-)

      And, in case you'd like a little more context for the quote:

      Surrounded by speared skulls and other various occult items, Wiggum puts on welding mask and gloves, and proceeds to stir a boiling mixture. Homer steps in front of him, on the theme from "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly".

      Wiggum: Afternoon, Homer. Care for some chili? I've added an extra ingredient just for you. [dramatic] The merciless peppers of Quetzlzacatenango! [exhibits a glowing pepper] [crowd gasps] Grown deep in the jungle primeval by the inmates of a Guatemalan insane asylum. [drops the pepper back in the pot] [crowds observes in silence]

      Homer: Uh, Wiggy? My chili's getting cold.

      PS- Hopefully this renders, the preview is overlaying my reply on top of your post *fingers crossed*

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  42. Pwnd by zivr · · Score: 1

    Let me be the first to say...Pwnd!

  43. Python eats alligator??? by Landshark17 · · Score: 1

    What was John Cleese doing in the Everglades? Oh, wait...

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  44. Some folks have a weird (spelled right) idea of.. by jonskerr · · Score: 1

    ..of everything. Why is this idiot modified insightful? It's the OPPOSITE of insightful. It's ignoring fundamental differences between invasive species in nature and invasive species killing off things due to human idiocy.
    >"What's so special about eg: "endangered woodstorks" that makes their species worthy to get a free pass on evolution?" I'll tell you: they were fine before WE came along, and as the top species on the planet, it is OUR job to steward all our fellows and not kill them through idiocy and greed. "It's evolution in action," is the same Might-Makes-Right bullshit that wise people have been fighting since the development of language. It'd be evolution in action if I cut your fucking gonads off and fed them to you, right? Let's do that too!
    And the same arrogance that you display above is what's the greatest single threat to OUR species right now. Your same idiotic bullshit is currently melting the ice caps, flooding New Orleans, and building suburbs in clearcut forests that are full of deer ticks.

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  45. Re:Some folks have a weird (spelled right) idea of by Julian+Morrison · · Score: 1

    I've noticed that the more nutty and passionate ideologies usually contain people railing against their own opposite belief. So socialism contains patrician elitists, and ecology contains people who refuse to consider human action as natural.

    "As the top species on the planet, it is OUR job to steward all our fellows" - said the Victorian zookeper! Your human-chauvinism amuses me. Other species are their own selves. They aren't anthropomorphisms with "rights", anymore than they grant each other rights, and they aren't wards of humanity. We use them, they use us, everybody uses what or whomever is convenient and goes about their own business. Evolution eventually fits these uses together into an ecosystem of mutual utility. This is the natural way of interactions between species!

  46. Alas, they do not truly exist: by falconwolf · · Score: 1

    I though it might be something like that.

    I don't know if you've grown them, but chile peppers are actually fairly easy to grow. As long as they get lots of sun, warm temperatures, and moderate watering they do great;-)

    Yea, I know. I love gardening and other than herbs my favorite things to grow are peppers, and tomatoes. I've grown peppers from bell peppers, black, chocolate, green, red, and yellow; to habaneros, to Thai Hot peppers. I eat them raw, stuff them, and use them for sauces. Anahiem chili peppers are really good for stuffing like Mexican Relleno, besides gardening I love cooking especially what I grow in my garden.

    Falcon
  47. let that be a lesson by spepper · · Score: 1

    let that be a lesson to you pythons out there-- BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR!