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CEOs Who Invite Email From All Employees

Carl Bialik from the WSJ writes "Cinergy Corp. CEO James E. Rogers, who at 11 one evening was reading email from employees at home while nursing a vodka, is the norm, not the exception at major U.S. companies, the Wall Street Journal reports. 'Advocates say such a policy is a powerful leadership tool that can nip crises in the bud, boost morale, uncover new ideas, and cut through corporate red tape. In the post-Enron era of CEO accountability, reading employee email helps the boss appear hands-on and accessible. But reading and replying to dozens of employee messages each day takes time that could be spent doing something else. Skeptics say the practice distracts CEOs from more-pressing work -- and extends already long workdays.' Of course, portable email devices have made it easier to sift through dozens or hundreds of employee messages each day. While being driven to meetings, Pfizer's CEO says, 'I don't look out the window. I use my BlackBerry and answer my email.'"

226 comments

  1. D'oh! by rovingeyes · · Score: 5, Funny
    Pfizer's CEO says, 'I don't look out the window. I use my BlackBerry and answer my email.'"

    Uh oh, he is screwed

    1. Re:D'oh! by DigiShaman · · Score: 1, Funny

      Pfizer has a little pill for that...

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    2. Re:D'oh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work for a telecom company where the boss and his boss never respond to emails. It does not matter what it is all about they are claiming 1) "that they have not had time to read the email", 2)"have not seen it" or 3)"have received it but not have time to respond". When they are not around they 1) usually bounce the calls and never get back to you or 2) they answer the call and tell you that they are busy and hungs up on. You can imagine how things are run. Sometimes when I get the "have not received it" answer. I inform them about the tracking features and the recall feature. That shuts them up.

  2. Only Eleven? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If he's only 11 why is he sitting at home drinking vodka????

    1. Re:Only Eleven? by MirrororriM · · Score: 1
      If he's only 11 why is he sitting at home drinking vodka????

      More importantly, what is he doing acting as a CEO for a decent sized corporation? Hmm...maybe that wouldn't be so bad for corporations. Then the CEO couldn't be personally sued for the company going down the tubes a'la Enron because they would be too young to be tried as an adult.

      Crap...maybe I shouldn't give them any more ideas. I'll shut up now.

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    2. Re:Only Eleven? by digitalgimpus · · Score: 2, Funny

      good, so I'm not the only one who read that twice. /never good at inglish //spells like a unedumucated person

    3. Re:Only Eleven? by geeber · · Score: 1

      If he's only 11 why is he sitting at home drinking vodka????

      Clearly it is the employees who are drinking vodka!

      But an 11 year old CEO is worrysome, no doubt.

    4. Re:Only Eleven? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Duh! He didn't want to get caught. This is why he's a CEO. Some people just don't get it....

    5. Re:Only Eleven? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is like Canary M. Burns being the owner of the nuclear power plant in Springfield.

    6. Re:Only Eleven? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And at 11 years old, shouldn't he be done nursing? Another example of irresponsible parents!

  3. it's more self-aggrandizing egotistical behavior by yagu · · Score: 5, Interesting

    it's more self-aggrandizing egotistical behavior... than anything else.

    You know what? I worked for a company, one of the telcoms that went through the upheaval of crooked leadership during the Enron days. One of our CEO's walked away with $500M, and they're still chasing him down -- I predict they'll NEVER get him. Our stock went from over $50 to under $2.

    Then our shining knight on a white horse rode into town. He had a reputation for coming in and slashing jobs, but he had genuine likability and charisma about him. He also had an open e-mail policy, claimed he read and answered his e-mail. Guess what? He did!

    I exchanged a few e-mails with him, and he always responded. Cool... two administrations before I'd always had pretty direct access at that level (I was pretty senior), and now it appeared the company was back to bidnez. His responses were short and non-expansive, but, hey, he IS the CEO.

    Then, 9a.m. one morning about a year ago I got marched into a little room and set free. For a previous post with more info, look here.

    Yeah, he read and answered his e-mail... but he always signed it (and I'm not making this up), "dick".

  4. Listen to employees? Yeah right! by RubberDogBone · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's why they have flunkies to do: listen to the employees, put their comments in the circular file, and make sure to record a bad mark for the next annual review.

    "Too ambitious. Emailed C*O about a new process that would cut costs and save the company."

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  5. Irony by gowen · · Score: 5, Funny
    Pfizer's CEO says, 'I don't look out the window. I use my BlackBerry and answer my email.'"
    Most of the time his replies read: "Funnily enough, I can get actual Viagra for the price you're selling fake C1AL1S. I'm the CEO of f**king Pfizer, you morons."
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    1. Re:Irony by omgpotatoes · · Score: 2, Informative

      That made me laugh out loud. Nice! :-)

    2. Re:Irony by Surt · · Score: 4, Informative

      Since I'm banned from moderation, a round of applause. Funniest comment I've read in a month.

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    3. Re:Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Note to mods: exactly how is the parent comment "informative"???

    4. Re:Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      It informed us that it was the funniest comment he's seen in a while, and judging by the moderation, people agree.

    5. Re:Irony by Surt · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Worse, I got moderated both informative and insightful.

      But then someone got irritated and moderated me overrated.

      All in all, some interesting moderation for a praise post.

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  6. is there anything Alcohol can't help? by toupsie · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Cinergy Corp. CEO James E. Rogers, who at 11 one evening was reading email from employees at home while nursing a vodka, is the norm, not the exception at major U.S. companies, the Wall Street Journal reports. 'Advocates say such a policy is a powerful leadership tool that can nip crises in the bud, boost morale, uncover new ideas, and cut through corporate red tape.

    Who knew that drinking vodka could nip crises in the bud, boost morale, uncover new ideas and cut through corporate red tape. I always thought Bourbon was a better choice for that. Guess its Bloody Marys for me!

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    1. Re:is there anything Alcohol can't help? by dswan69 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Would it be OK if he was nursing a joint? Just wondering if only addictive, toxic drugs are acceptable for CEOs.

    2. Re:is there anything Alcohol can't help? by moro_666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I dont know about you but i would like my CEO to be sober while he reads my genuine ideas ... otherwise he will end up thinking that these ideas are good (because i was drunk while i wrote the e-mail to him too :p) and i will have to make these ideas into projects and make profits ... from ideas like a flying coffee cup and freezing microwave ... (this means i would have to get the clients drunk to make them buy this stuff...)

      On the other hand, i know dudes who would answer to e-mails politely 24/7 if they get free vodka, a driver with a car and a blackberry for it :)

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    3. Re:is there anything Alcohol can't help? by Svartalf · · Score: 1

      I always thought that Rumple Mintz or a fine Single Malt Scotch was the fix for those sorts of problems- but then, what do I know, I'm just a CTO... I guess CEO's know more about those sorts of things, eh? :-)

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    4. Re:is there anything Alcohol can't help? by toupsie · · Score: 1

      Only if he sprained his ankle...

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    5. Re:is there anything Alcohol can't help? by vsprintf · · Score: 1

      I dont know about you but i would like my CEO to be sober while he reads my genuine ideas

      I would prefer my CEO dead drunk and passed out so he has less time to come up with his wonderful ideas that waste the company's resources and screw the company's employees. I'll even make a donation to the CEO's vodka fund and another for the board of directors.

    6. Re:is there anything Alcohol can't help? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, I'm a CEO. And as it happens I'm sitting here, smoking a fat one. Boy, do I feel guilty... reading Slashdot when I could be working!

    7. Re:is there anything Alcohol can't help? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The CEO of Progressive Insurance is a stoner, a very successful stone.

    8. Re:is there anything Alcohol can't help? by elemental23 · · Score: 1

      Alcohol: the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.

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    9. Re:is there anything Alcohol can't help? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhm, marijuana smoke is pretty toxic. All smoke is toxic. Don't let that stop you from enjoying a toke every now and again though. :-)

  7. Maybe he should lay off the Vodka... by MikeDataLink · · Score: 5, Funny

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CIN&d=t based on the Stock Reports he should drink a little less (or maybe more!!!). ;) He's down .69 today already.

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    1. Re:Maybe he should lay off the Vodka... by Brushfireb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Good CEO's dont care about day to day, or even quarter to quarter fluctuations in their stock price, provided its not ridiculously drastic.

      Good CEO's look long term. So should you.

    2. Re:Maybe he should lay off the Vodka... by BewireNomali · · Score: 2, Interesting

      not anymore. CEO terms are becoming shorter than political terms in many instances. there is no vested interest in CEOs thinking long term, especially when long term interests often conflict with short term interests, i.e. return on investment. This is especially true for publically traded companies.

      i guess my point is, the idea of what a good CEO is... is a very relative term.

      For example, Steve Jobs has become a wall street darling because he has evolved from being a good private company CEO to a good public company CEO. I contend that the two are distinctly different breeds.

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    3. Re:Maybe he should lay off the Vodka... by Duhavid · · Score: 1

      He did say "good" CEO's. Not everyday, average, run of the mill CEO's.
      You know. The kind that is extremely rare. :-)

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    4. Re:Maybe he should lay off the Vodka... by Duhavid · · Score: 2, Funny

      You need to find out when the interview was conducted. Maybe last night
      was a no vodka night for him, and that is why the stock is down. Maybe
      he needs more, not less.

      I propose a full study. Grouped by types of alcohol and amounts, measured
      against the company stock price.

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    5. Re:Maybe he should lay off the Vodka... by BewireNomali · · Score: 1

      My point is this: good to whom? A good CEO to investors is not necessarily considered a good CEO by employees. That "good" CEO might significantly downsize the R&D department to reduces costs and increase ROI, which would make him a bad CEO by many employees, but a coveted employee by stockholders. This same CEO is not vested in the company's long term survival, but short term health. In that regard, what is meant by a "good" CEO?

      This is my point. The market's idea of a good CEO can be different from an employee's idea of a good CEO in many instances.

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    6. Re:Maybe he should lay off the Vodka... by Duhavid · · Score: 1

      Point understood.

      Answer to question: "Good" = Good to the companies long term survival.

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    7. Re:Maybe he should lay off the Vodka... by wfberg · · Score: 1

      Going down, 69 style? Sound like a good day at the office to me.

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    8. Re:Maybe he should lay off the Vodka... by w9ofa · · Score: 1

      You are right about CEO's being treated like they had baseball cards.

      I wonder if the investors would sell their future in exchange for money today?
      If they ain't, then who IS doing the long term thinking?

  8. New E-mail Buttons Needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only thing the CEO's will need to make this more efficent is a button to fire the employees who complain too much.

  9. Long Workdays by Chuckstar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "and extends already long workdays"

    Oh, cry me a river. So a guy making hundreds of millions has to extend his workday. Isn't that the price you pay for having that job? You want an easier job, just be some other senior executive, make 20-25% as much money, and have an easier life.

    1. Re:Long Workdays by iluvcapra · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Skeptics say the practice distracts CEOs from more-pressing work -- and extends already long workdays

      For 420 times the employee base salary (for reals, not hyperbole), he might be able to reply to a few dozen emails every night.

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    2. Re:Long Workdays by Chuckstar · · Score: 1

      I didn't say "he" made hundreds of millions. The comment that reading all of those e-mails meant longer working hours was directed at CEOs in general, many of whom do make hundreds of millions.

      BTW, he made over $40 million in the last five years. I still have no sympathy for his work schedule.

    3. Re:Long Workdays by bladernr · · Score: 1
      Oh, cry me a river. So a guy making hundreds of millions has to extend his workday. Isn't that the price you pay for having that job?

      Envy. The ugliest of the seven deadly sins. Do yourself a favour and go with Sloth and Lust.

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    4. Re:Long Workdays by Chuckstar · · Score: 1

      I'm not envious. I wouldn't want that job. I just think you make tradeoffs in life, and if you want to make millions a year, maybe you have to answer some e-mails from home.

  10. I don't see an issue by Wireless+Joe · · Score: 5, Insightful
    But reading and replying to dozens of employee messages each day takes time that could be spent doing something else.

    Yes, and I'd be glad to hear that my CEO was returning email instead of (or at least while) taking place in the latest pro-am or attending other "promotional" company-paid vacations.
    Skeptics say the practice distracts CEOs from more-pressing work -- and extends already long workdays.'

    Again, I would expect nothing less from a competent CEO. I work 10-12 hour days, and at 50-100 times my salary, I would expect the same from them.
    1. Re:I don't see an issue by Sky+Cry · · Score: 1

      One doesn't become a CEO with 50-100 times your salary magically.
      There's a world of difference between you and him.
      You can expect something, when (and if) you make your way to the position.
      Of course it's easier to think you deserve something (like CEO answering your mails at 11 in the evening) just because you work 10-12 hour days.

    2. Re:I don't see an issue by autophile · · Score: 1
      I work 10-12 hour days, and at 50-100 times my salary, I would expect the same from them.

      It only goes to show that life isn't fair. Otherwise, at 50-100 times your salary, they should be working 500-1200 hour days.

      --Rob

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    3. Re:I don't see an issue by pilgrim23 · · Score: 1

      The rest of that section of the article says:

      "I can't fathom how investors would accept that as a [good] way to spend your time," says David D'Alessandro, who ran John Hancock Financial Services Inc. until shortly after its 2004 acquisition by Manulife Financial Corp.
      Mr. D'Alessandro, who is 54 years old, limited email access to the executives who reported to him. Soliciting email from all employees can "turn into a huge complaint line to the CEO, and you can't get out of it," he warns. And if a CEO promises to answer every email and then fails to do so, he adds, "you have lost credibility."

      -Or... if he fails to keep track of what is going on by only listening to his apointed yes men..., like Mr D"alessandro, he looses the company it would seem..

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  11. Uhm... did anybody read that last line.... by HerculesMO · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While being driven to meetings, Pfizer's CEO says, 'I don't look out the window. I use my BlackBerry and answer my email.'"

    And that reason alone, is why I will never feel sorry for CEOs long work days. Besides, everybody knows that CEOs are figureheads and the real work is done by the managers looking for promotions into more cushy jobs and getting the little guys to work their asses off to deliver the given product/service on a deadline that means THEIR job.

    Yea.. fuck CEOs. Until I am one -- and then I will look back at this post and think how delusional I was while I bathe myself in hundred dollar bills while telling my driver to take me to my job where I do little work and -- oh wait, I am still a peon. Long way to go yet :)

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    1. Re:Uhm... did anybody read that last line.... by lowe0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No offense, but if someone's attention is costing a business millions of dollars a year, it seems like a good idea to hire someone to handle the more mundane stuff so they don't have to take their mind off of what they're working on.

      What's a half-hour of a CEO's time worth? If it's more than the cost of a driver's, then someone else had better be behind the wheel.

    2. Re:Uhm... did anybody read that last line.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Bugger that.

      I don't know if you're trying to be funny here. My dad is the CEO of a medium-sized, recently listed manufacturing company (not in the States). I may be biased, but I don't know anyone who works harder.

      He gets up at 7 every morning, and if he isn't out entertaining clients (all right, it's an Asian country) til 2-3am, he's back at 8pm. That's Monday to Saturday, Sunday the office is closed but he usually ends up checking up on the factory anyway.

      He handles everything, from finding new markets, making sure the factories will hit the quantity/date, dodgy suppliers, and things like making sure the right wheels are greased, all the way down to things like escalated problems with discrimination in the cafeteria. There's constant pressure to keep competitive - for example, China has been causing them problems these last couple of years. Who had to choose to build factories in China to keep up? Do you know how monumentally complex a task like that is? Where do you even begin? I haven't the slightest clue - it's not like there's a form you fill out, and magically well-trained Chinese labour pops out of the air, English speaking, ready to work, equipment and all... And also, who takes the blame if it doesn't work out?

      Remember that mental work is as hard, if not harder, than physical work. I took a job in the company factory for a stint - eight hour shifts just whiz by when you're hard at work, the endorphins kick in. Henry Ford once said something along the lines of 'I give them the parts of my work that the many can do, so I can do the work that only I can do'. It's not the easy stuff that gets stuck at the top.

      My dad has a driver too, but that doesn't fix his high blood pressure or other health problems - or the half-life he's led outside work for the last few decades spent (also as CEO) building the company up from nothing.

      YMMV in the States - I know Asian businesses tend to stack work at the top - but I suspect it's not completely unlike this.

      Anyway, nice semi-troll. :-) Worth feeding you to answer. It's not like dad would ever read this here, but it would shame me to read this, knowing what my dad's life is like, and not respond. After watching him secure our family's lives this way, even if bathing in hundred-dollar-bills might actually be possible I'd never dream of it - it'd be too much like bathing in dad's blood.

      -D

    3. Re:Uhm... did anybody read that last line.... by Takumi2501 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I agree entirely. Let me add one more point.

      If, as people seem to think, a CEO does nothing in a public company. There's a board of directors who would boot him/her out. Major companies don't make money by paying people obscene salaries to sit on their butts all day.

      True, if you want to run a successful company, you have to delegate a lot of tasks to other people. This should be done, however, so that you can handle more imporant issues.

      Bearing this in mind, I think that an open-inbox policy is a double-edged sword. Yes, it keeps the CEOs informed as to what's going on in the company, but I think it would be a wiser idea to have someone employed for the sole purpose of reading these e-mails, and forwarding the relevant ones to the appropriate recipients (including the CEO, if necessary).

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    4. Re:Uhm... did anybody read that last line.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Everybody knows", huh? Well, you've convinced me.

    5. Re:Uhm... did anybody read that last line.... by drsmithy · · Score: 1
      If, as people seem to think, a CEO does nothing in a public company. There's a board of directors who would boot him/her out. Major companies don't make money by paying people obscene salaries to sit on their butts all day.

      Comments like this would carry more weight if the typical board of directors wasn't a great, big, happy, incestuous, old-boys club of CEOs.

    6. Re:Uhm... did anybody read that last line.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If, as people seem to think, a CEO does nothing in a public company. There's a board of directors who would boot him/her out. Major companies don't make money by paying people obscene salaries to sit on their butts all day.


      Oh, you mean like this?
  12. Good idea by twiddlingbits · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I always thought a CEO should know as much as possible about what is going on in his/her firm. Sounds like this guy thinks that way too. And he does it HIMSELF, not via his admin assistant. Some CEOs couldn't even turn on a Blackberry, and others don't give a rat's ass what is going on as long as they get thier way and thier bonuses.

    The downside of actually reading his email is that he can't say "I didn't know" if the Feds come asking questions about his company's actions or financial statements.

    Employees shouldn't be dropping him emails when the towels are out in the restroom. Only really imporant issues/crises should be sent to him.

    1. Re:Good idea by moviepig.com · · Score: 5, Funny
      ...Only really imporant issues/crises should be sent to him.

      Maybe the other employees should be able to mod each other's eMails up and down. Hey, wait...

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    2. Re:Good idea by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1

      CEOmail is the modern equivalent of Managment By Walking Around.

    3. Re:Good idea by austad · · Score: 1

      Traditionally, most managers are of the mindset that they need to make the people under them fix problems, and sugarcoat everything to the people above them. A lot of problems get filtered out on the way up the chain, nothing gets done because there's no funding or poor planning, morale suffers, etc.

      This is a good way to bypass that whole problem. I would suspect that companies where the C*O has open email policies, managers and directors will be less likely to leave out pertinent info and to just tell it like it is.

      I'm well known among my peers for not sugarcoating anything. If there's a problem or an issue, I'll speak up about it. I'm not going to lie or "stretch the truth." On a couple of occasions, I've been pulled into my bosses office and yelled at, but then immediately after had HIS boss tell me "great job." The only way to fix your problems is to be open about them and confront them, hopefully with backing all the way up to the executive level. Everyone in between has the attitude that execs need to be kept in the dark and they will deal with any issues "internally." Dishonest people have no place in management, but sadly, that's probably how they got there.

      Anyway, my point is, an open email policy to Execs is a good tool for keeping your management team honest, and it also tends to weed out the people that are hacks. Additionally, it allows employee ideas which otherwise might not have seen the light of day to be evaluated by someone with (hopefully) more experience than a regular manager type person. Execs are supposed to see the big picture and "get it."

      When I end up at the executive level, I will surely encourage my employees to feel free to email me. It's the only way to get a no-nonsense view of the way your company is running internally.

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    4. Re:Good idea by twiddlingbits · · Score: 1

      I'm much like you are, however IMNSHO "... end up at the executive level..." is not likely to happen to either of us. I've spent 22+ yrs in Software/Systems and also have an MBA from a top school, but I've been told I need to be less assertive about right/wrong to make it further up the food chain. Those who rise to the top are the ones who will 1)suck up in the most politically correct way or 2) have horrible ethics but always seem to win the business (means justify the ends) or 3) Will use/abuse anyone to get ahead. Most CEO's I have met are NOT outstanding people, but there are a few who are such as the CEO of Interstate Batteries.

    5. Re:Good idea by Svartalf · · Score: 1
      "The downside of actually reading his email is that he can't say "I didn't know" if the Feds come asking questions about his company's actions or financial statements."


      Considering that the Feds typically only get involved with true malfesance on the part of a company, being able to say "I didn't know" shouldn't be an issue, right? I know if I were a CEO, I'd not be a party to any of the funny-business goings on that went on to bring about Sarbanes-Oxley in the first place. Never mind that in the line of business that the company I'm the CTO for would probably never be allowed to work in that field in the first place if that sort of stuff was going on.
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    6. Re:Good idea by Johnny5000 · · Score: 1

      The downside of actually reading his email is that he can't say "I didn't know" if the Feds come asking questions about his company's actions or financial statements.

      That's a downside?

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    7. Re:Good idea by twiddlingbits · · Score: 1

      Yea, for the CEO :) It's great for me as a stockholder. If something stinks, he was aware of it as not everyone can be unethical or corrupt at the same time [SCO is an exception I suppose]. With an open-email policy and the fact he publically states that he personally reads his email then he can't plead he was ignorant and his reports were corrupt w/o his knowledge.

    8. Re:Good idea by 4of12 · · Score: 1
      always thought a CEO should know as much as possible about what is going on in his/her firm.

      Yes. And reading emails from underlings that are 6 layers beneath him should be done from time to time.

      But, even better would be to appoint honest brokers as direct underlings who know how to place a finger on the pulse of the company, filter out the unessential information and present you with the most important bald facts, be they good, bad, or whatever.

      It's nice, too, if these VP's are able to execute in the reality-based world as well as spout off jargon picked up from the latests issue of Harvard Business Review to forums of peers.

      For counterexamples to these principles, see any of the numerous failing companies and governments.

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  13. Sifted by oconnorcjo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think that if I was in a CEO position, I would have my email sifted through by a secretary and then only the real meat forwarded to me; giving me more time to do other things. A CEO who spends large amounts of time reading email feels like a micromanager and would give me less confidence in the leadership of the company.

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    1. Re:Sifted by angelo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As opposed to the 'sifter' micro-managing and reducing morale. It speaks better to the CEO's commitment if they read/reply personally instead of pushing it off to someone else. That's the whole point of this.

    2. Re:Sifted by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      Yay, then only issues that are important to the Seceretary get forwarded along. It'd be just like the US Government!

    3. Re:Sifted by BewireNomali · · Score: 1

      I agreee with you on several points.

      Micro-managing bosses don't inspire confidence. I also agree that sifting through countless emails would be time consuming, especially in large companies with very strong hiring practices (which would mean fielding a good number of seemingly pertinent and thought provoking emails on a regular basis; imagine what Eric Schmidt's inbox looks like at the end of the day). I agree with an email filter. I don't think it should be the secretary though. Not to denigrate secretaries, but even good secretaries inspire way less confidence than the most micro-managingest CEO.

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    4. Re:Sifted by oogoliegoogolie · · Score: 1

      Yeah that's what I want in a company: a CEO who completely distances himself from the workers near the bottom of the ladder. That's the problem with corporations, there is a class structure near the top that rarely interacts with the majority of workers, making those workers feel like they don't matter. I'd pick a company where the top brass is visible and accessible to the workers over one where the CEO is some guy you hear about but never see and can never reach.

      Besides, if reading email is taking too much time from the CEO's other duties, he'll notice and adjust his schedule accordingly. Those guys may seem stupid, but they are not.

    5. Re:Sifted by Itchy+Rich · · Score: 1

      A CEO who spends large amounts of time reading email feels like a micromanager...

      I think there's a subtle but important difference. A micromanager interferes with your work in an uninvited fashion, you have to encourange them let you get on with your job yourself. This guy only reads the email that employees have chosen to send him. Since sensible employees would only send him something really important he can't really be accused of micromanagement for simply allowing employees to email him.

    6. Re:Sifted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would just ask HR to sift through them, find out which ones are from hot chicks, then delete the rest.

    7. Re:Sifted by oconnorcjo · · Score: 1
      As opposed to the 'sifter' micro-managing and reducing morale. It speaks better to the CEO's commitment if they read/reply personally instead of pushing it off to someone else. That's the whole point of this.

      That is the point. The person who is sifting through the CEO's mail does not have the job of running a company but of saving time of the person who is running the company. The person running the company should spend his/her time running a company and not reading tons of email. As for moral- the key is for the sifter to not tell anyone that they exist and to have the CEO read only the emails that have any real importance or info. Moral should not come from how easy it is to talk to the top boss, but in knowing you are working for a company that is treating its employees and customers right. If an email complaining about such conditions, then a sifter should certainly pass that on to a CEO. Of course this is for any really large company. Any small company should have direct access to the top brass because the number of emails by employees of smaller companies should be reasonable. However, I know many managers that spend a large number of thier time reading and replying to email and I would say that it gets in thier way of being more effective.

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    8. Re:Sifted by elemental23 · · Score: 1

      The person running the company should spend his/her time running a company and not reading tons of email.

      Perhaps he's of the opinion that listening to his employees and actually knowing what's going on is an important part of running the company? That sheltering himself behind a secretary does not to much for the morale of the people he depends on to keep his company running?

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  14. Technology makes middle-management obsolete by nharmon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Half of me thinks that if the middle-managers can't be trusted to take employee e-mails concerning business-related things, they should be replaced. The other half of me thinks that if technology gives the CEO greater span-of-control, then perhaps the middle-managers should be eliminated.

    1. Re:Technology makes middle-management obsolete by shawb · · Score: 1

      There would be times when it makes sense to go over the head of your manager in communications.

      1)Is of course when the idea that you have is not in the field of expertise of your manager. It could be an idea for a different department, or??? Specialization is such that you can NOT expect every manager to have a firm grasp on every task.

      2)Your direct manager may simply be too busy to deal with the problem, and knowing that adding this task to his load may result in unacceptable short term reductions in productivity. Passing it on to a higher level of management instead means that your direct manager simply does not have to deal with the problem. The CEO or whoever can then simply delegate the problem to someone who does have time/resources to properly address it.

      3)Is when your manager is incompetent, lazy or outright malevolent. Your manager will do anything in his power to prevent the higher-ups from finding that out, so direct communication with your boss's boss is necesary to get your boss straightened up or shipped out. Most people will not be comfortable ratting out their own boss, and having a pre-existing line of direct candid communication may help bring these concerns forward.

      I'm sure there are many other equally valid reasons for direct communication up the chain of command. It does rely on trusting the individual employees to have a sense of proportion on what to bring up directly to the CEO, and where to find answers to find if the problem is important enough. Empowerment always comes with responsibilities.

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      I'll never make that mistake again, reading the experts' opinions. - Feynman
    2. Re:Technology makes middle-management obsolete by BewireNomali · · Score: 1

      CEOs should think in very broad strokes - industry wide paradigms.

      lower level employees are pointillists, they are paid to think in detail, painstakingly small and acute dimensions.

      these are inherently different languages; few people speak both. It's why most engineers make less than successful CEOs and why most CEOs were mediocre students/entry level workers/etc. That is the benefit and the bane of the middle manager. The good middle manager understands the engineer and can explain his perspective to the broad stroke upper management guy who makes decisions but cannot understand the engineer's perspective. The downside is that there is little opportunity for advancement for the middle manager - as his benefit to the machine is perpetually in the middle.

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    3. Re:Technology makes middle-management obsolete by VoidEngineer · · Score: 1

      The solution, of sorts, is that the president shouldn't be micromanaging, although should be 1. aware of all the goings-on in the company, and 2. able to excersize veto power. It's the middle managers responsibility to both make business decisions as per their standing within the company and their authority, and to forward a carbon copy of said decisions to the boss so that the boss is kept in the loop and can excersize veto power as necessary.

      That's my two cents, anyhow.

    4. Re:Technology makes middle-management obsolete by pasti · · Score: 1

      There's a whole lot more to managing than giving oneliner answers to e-mails.

  15. Re:it's more self-aggrandizing egotistical behavio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sometimes CEOs have to fire people. And yeah, it's pretty unfortunate. But would you rather he hadn't answered your emails?

  16. CEO is the norm ? by star_aas · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Cinergy Corp. CEO James E. Rogers, who at 11 one evening was reading email from employees at home while nursing a vodka, is the norm,

    So, this guy is the norm ? What the hell does that even mean ?

    Maybe you meant "For Cinergy Corp. CEO James E. Rogers, reading email from employees at home while nursing a vodka at 11 in the evening is the norm.

    Sorry, couldn't help it

    1. Re:CEO is the norm ? by vlad_grigorescu · · Score: 1

      Uhh... no, actually that's exactly what they meant. The whole idea of the article is that more and more CEOs are taking the time to read e-mails from all employees. Thus, it has become the norm for them to sit up late replying to e-mails.

    2. Re:CEO is the norm ? by jd · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, the headline is correct. The norm is for CEOs to behave like 11 year olds and to drink while on the clock.

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    3. Re:CEO is the norm ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On what planet?

    4. Re:CEO is the norm ? by ajwitte · · Score: 1

      First of all, I assume that as a CEO, he's salaried. Second, if you were "on the clock" at 23:00, assuming a 8:00 to 10:00 start time, wouldn't you be drinking too?

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    5. Re:CEO is the norm ? by star_aas · · Score: 1

      I meant the Grammar doesn't make sense

    6. Re:CEO is the norm ? by vlad_grigorescu · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I got that. The Grammar makes sense, and if you are going to nit-pick other people's Grammar, don't spell random Nouns with Capital Letters.

    7. Re:CEO is the norm ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pot. Kettle. Black.

  17. Appearances? by Franklinstein · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "reading employee email helps the boss appear hands-on and accessible"

    And here's what it comes down to...appearances. Yes, I understand that it can have some effect, but how useful is putting on the appearance of being hands-on and accessible when they're really not?

    1. Re:Appearances? by rhetoric · · Score: 5, Insightful
      here's another gem from TA:

      Last year, an hourly worker at a manufacturing plant sent Mr. Parkinson an email asking about Baxter's policy for supplementing the pay of employees called up to active military duty. The CEO discovered the subsidy ended after 24 weeks, even though some Baxter employees were serving on longer assignments. He ordered the differential extended to 50 weeks and made the change retroactive to January 2003. A company spokeswoman says the move affected relatively few employees but boosted overall morale. [emphasis obviously added]


      I'd say that about sums it up...
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      "where words meet intent, lies rhetoric's lament"
    2. Re:Appearances? by XorNand · · Score: 1

      What a bastard! He found a way to help employees in the service AND boost overall morale without it costing the company a lot of extra money.

      The blind, anti-corporate cynicism onSlashdot is sometimes stupefying.

      --
      Entrepreneur : (noun), French for "unemployed"
    3. Re:Appearances? by jratcliffe · · Score: 1

      So, because it didn't affect a whole lot of people, it wasn't the right thing to do? Come on now.

    4. Re:Appearances? by rhetoric · · Score: 1

      So, because it didn't affect a whole lot of people, it wasn't the right thing to do? Come on now.

      no, because it didn't effect a large number of people (cost the company any real amount of money) they were willing to do it :D as the GP said, it's all about appearances

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      "where words meet intent, lies rhetoric's lament"
  18. You have no idea how business really works by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Funny

    First you tell your driver to take you to your mistresses' apartment, then when you're good and ready you tell him to take you to the office.

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    1. Re:You have no idea how business really works by HerculesMO · · Score: 1

      I have much to learn Obi Wan.

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  19. Re:it's more self-aggrandizing egotistical behavio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    actually?, yes.

    -yagu

  20. Re:it's more self-aggrandizing egotistical behavio by cnelzie · · Score: 5, Funny

    That sucks.

        Hopefully, you poorly documented some of that application so that when/if they ever need to make changes to it, they will have no choice, but to hunt you down.

        Then you can stick it to them by charging them 6 times your previous salary to "fix" the program or make the needed updates to it and while you are there, if that CEO is still there, you can send him an email advising him of the "savings" the cost-cutting of letting you go has done for the company he is running...

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  21. I wonder why... by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 2, Funny
    ... while nursing a vodka...

    Why? Was it sick?

    No! It was just a down in the mouth!

    Thank you folks! I'll be here all week! Try the veal!

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    That is all.
  22. Filtering could do wonders by Gallvs · · Score: 5, Funny

    But reading and replying to dozens of employee messages each day takes time that could be spent doing something else. Skeptics say the practice distracts CEOs from more-pressing work

    Well, just use this procmail recipe to filter 90% of messages out:

    :0
    * ^From.*mycompany.com
    * ^Subject.*raise
    /dev/null

    1. Re:Filtering could do wonders by theblueprint · · Score: 1
      Yeah, I think my CEO filtered this one out:

      You got no business? Fuck you, pay me. You had a fire? Fuck you, pay me. The place got hit by lightning? Fuck you, pay me.

      Maybe I should ask for a raise a little nicer?

      --
      "from the bricks to the booth...I predict the future like Cleo the psychic..."
    2. Re:Filtering could do wonders by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aww. Then my email "Praise for your management" wouldn't get through.

  23. Our CEO? by lewp · · Score: 1

    There's probably a dozen pay grades between me and the company's CEO. I didn't even remember his name until I looked it up, and I'm sure he doesn't know mine since we've never met. We don't work in the same state, we've never been in the same room, and in 3 years working here I have, in fact, never seen him in person once.

    Who cares if he reads his email?

    --
    Game... blouses.
    1. Re:Our CEO? by CokeBear · · Score: 1

      I met my CEO once at the company Christmas party. I had just stolen a centerpiece off a table at the party, which was a nice floral arrangement, and was going to take it up to my room in the hotel where the party was, as a surprise for my girlfriend. I was a bit nervous from having stolen the centerpiece, so I got into the elevator quickly. Before I realized who else was in there, the doors closed. It was the CEO and his secretary (or maybe his mistress? definitely not his wife). We shook hands and made small talk for the ride up, and I doubt he remembered me 5 minutes later, but it was one of the most surreal experiences of my life. (Probably didn't help that I was a bit stoned, had a few drinks, and was somewhat sleep deprived.) But got to love a company that flies 3000 employees (+ guest) to one city for a party every year.

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    2. Re:Our CEO? by oneiros27 · · Score: 1
      It's good to know the name of the head of the company.

      It keeps you from replying to a message that says:
      Memo from (someone)
      (yes, that was the entire ASCII body of the email, although with a real name in it), with an MS Word document attached)

      So, when you get one of those messages, you don't reply back with a snotty comment about how you don't know who the sender is, you don't know who the person who the memo's from, and you don't read MS Word attachments.

      Of course, I quickly found out that the sender was the executive assistant to the president of the company, and the memo was from the president.

      oops.
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      Build it, and they will come^Hplain.
    3. Re:Our CEO? by BewireNomali · · Score: 2, Funny

      lol, I temped once at this company, and a lot of the entry level/temp/freelance guys went outside to work on a freshly rolled fattie. This was also at a Christmas party.

      The CEO stepped outside for a breath of fresh air. He inhaled deeply, closed his eyes for a moment, and looked at us. By this time, the joint was hidden out of sight.

      He looked at me and said, "so are you going to pass that or what?" I sheepishly passed it, and he hogged it while shooting the shit with us. It was never discussed; but we were appalled.

      About a week later, he sent me an email asking me if I could get him more of that stuff. It was weird.

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    4. Re:Our CEO? by DaveJay · · Score: 1

      Hey, everyone's situation is different. The last company I worked for, the CEO said something in an office-wide meeting during a visit, and afterwards I sent him an email and said "If you really have that personnel information [about performance vs pay scale], I want to see where I fall." It took a few months to coordinate, but HE kept following up with ME, and eventually sat down with me for an hour or so. Keep in mind I was sub-director, sub-architect, sub-manager.

      He gave me the information I asked for, and illustrated that (due to a recent transition I had made within the company that wasn't going well) I was performing very poorly according to the information he had. Turns out he found out about my performance -after- I had sent him that email, and he judged that my interest in my performance (that I showed by asking him for the info) made him think twice about simply throwing my name up as a likely-to-let-go.

      In fact, by the time we sat down that day, he had talked to one of my higher-ups and said "did you know that [my name] is performing really low for his salary?" and the higher-up said "yep, but I'm not worried, because he just transitioned into the role, and he performed really well in the previous role." Once he had assured me he wasn't going to fire me, we talked about various project-related hoohah, and experimented with some alternative project performance (as opposed to personnel performance) metrics. All in all, a very nice and useful meeting, seemingly for both of us.

      And to think, if he hadn't read that email from me, I probably wouldn't have been kept on as personnel. Mind you, it might -also- be the fact that he had been CEO since the company started, financed it all with his and his partner's own capital, and had frozen their salaries at around $51,000 yearly (don't cry for him, of course; the company performs, and he has long since made a fortune on the stock).

      Postscript: I have since left the company, but only because the amount of travel didn't jibe with my personal life plans, and were it not for that, I wouldn't have left.

  24. Justify the $$ by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Funny

    ""Cinergy Corp. CEO James E. Rogers, who at 11 one evening was reading email from employees at home while nursing a vodka, is the norm, not the exception at major U.S. companies, the Wall Street Journal reports."

    Well, first, it's about time someone makes a big stink about all the long hours that justify the ever-growing disparity between executives' and workers' salaries. I was beginning to feel like the Joe Sixpacks at the plant were beginning to resent my Rolls Royce. Thanks for sticking up for us, Rogers!

    OTOH, why is Rogers allowed to drink while managing employee relations? Last time I tried that, I got slapped with a lawsuit for breach of due diligence, among other things. I mean, sure, I wasn't exactly nursing the vodka so much as slamming it, and the employee relations were more in the nature of physical contact, not email, but really... Some shareholder should call his lawyer.

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    "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
    1. Re:Justify the $$ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wasn't exactly nursing the vodka so much as slamming it, and the employee relations were more in the nature of physical contact

      Whether this is true or not, reading it on Slashdot makes me cringe. It's like those 12 year old kids on CS that talk about their girlfriend or tell everyone how stoned they are. It's not a matter of jealousy, more smacking of an attempt to sound cooler than everyone else on the game/forum/geek news site.

    2. Re:Justify the $$ by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      Dude, satire. Sarcasm. Sorry I forgot to enclose it within tags so that any moron or AC could grok it.

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      "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
  25. A healthy way to do email as a CEO by davidwr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1) have a whitelist of senders you always read
    2) have a spam-filter to filter out non-humans
    3) everything else goes to the "let my assistants handle it."

    Of #3, read:
    a) everything your assistants mark for your attention
    b) a RANDOM selection of everything else, so you can get a feel for what people are sending you. Don't spend too much time on these, maybe 15-60 minutes a day. Since your assistants are already doing the replies you don't even need to compose replies.

    3b is very important in the life of a CEO - it helps keep you informed of what your suborninates - at least those who are bold enough to email you - are thinking.

    If the George W. Bush did this, he'd have a better idea of what people are thinking. Damn thing is he probably IS reading a sample of letters/faxes/emails but not a RANDOM sample.

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    1. Re:A healthy way to do email as a CEO by glesga_kiss · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Damn thing is he probably IS reading a sample of letters/faxes/emails but not a RANDOM sample.

      This is a common problem when you have peons filtering for you, in fact it happens whenever you let anyone filter your information, be it commercial television, unethical staff, or simply those who spend way too much time watching their own asses!

      The problem is worse when you select people based on their filters. Environmental policy for one; the guy at the head of the US office used to work for asbestos and power industry! That's like hiring Dogbert to action the employee morale suggestion box...

    2. Re:A healthy way to do email as a CEO by elgatozorbas · · Score: 1
      If the George W. Bush did this, he'd have a better idea of what people are thinking. Damn thing is he probably IS reading a sample of letters/faxes/emails but not a RANDOM sample.

      Indeed, he only reads the ones with drawings and pictures, written in large letters (avoiding the dificult ones like 'x' and 'q').

  26. so it's okay to drink on the job??? by woodsrunner · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'd like to see those emails... they were probably like most late night alcoholic inspirations -- really great until the booze wore off.

  27. ceo pay by gizmo_mathboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Unless you're management that number is closer to 400 times your salary. At least it's the righr order of magnitude.

    1. Re:ceo pay by gcauthon · · Score: 1

      400 times? If you earn minimum wage and your ceo makes 4.5 million then that would be 400 times. Are you sure about that figure? Is it really typical for a top performer's and CEO's salaries to be that disproportionate?

    2. Re:ceo pay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      431 times, yes, and yes. A CEO at a major corporation making $4.5M is the laughingstock of his fellow CEOs, whose median pay is somewhere around $10-14M.

      http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management /2005-03-30-ceo-pay-2004-cover_x.htm
      http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/news/economy/ceo_p ay/
      http://www.aflcio.org/corporatewatch/paywatch/

      Google for lots, lots more sources.

  28. MOD parent UP... by advocate_one · · Score: 2, Insightful

    whoever modded him offtopic didn't see the joke...

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    1. Re:MOD parent UP... by failedlogic · · Score: 1

      Not to mention I think a bit young to be CEO of a major energy company!

    2. Re:MOD parent UP... by CrankyOG · · Score: 1

      Well, seeing the joke and thinking it's funny are two different things, eh?

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  29. Be careful if you email while drinking... by bytesmythe · · Score: 5, Funny
    Cinergy Corp. CEO James E. Rogers, who at 11 one evening was reading email from employees at home while nursing a vodka...

    After drinking for a solid hour, he started sending pathetic messages to former employees about how sorry he is they couldn't stay together and how he hopes they aren't bitter and if so then too bad because, hey, *HE'S* the one who dumped *THEM* and if they can't handle that then f*ck off, but maybe he can get together with them some weekend for a little "fun" sometime.

    He then passed out at the keyboard in a puddle of drool.

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    bytesmythe
    Hypocrisy is the resin that holds the plywood of society together.
    -- Scott Meyer
    1. Re:Be careful if you email while drinking... by pete-classic · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.
      -Patton


      It's sweet and fitting to go home after.

      -Peter
    2. Re:Be careful if you email while drinking... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow! Little did I know I am qualified to be a CEO. THANKS!

  30. BAD MODERATION!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The post above is a joke, not an offtopic comment. At least "+2 Funny"!!!!

    1. Re:BAD MODERATION!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but what if it wasn't funny?

      since there is no +1 lame humor mod on /. I think off-topic suits it just fine..

  31. Wait... by AugstWest · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's post-Enron CEO accountability?

    In what alternate universe?

    1. Re:Wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
      Sarbanes-Oxley is dead. The administrative overhead has been installed, but CEOs are invulnerable as ever. Google for Scrushy, the ex-CEO of Healthsouth and the first CEO to be prosecuted under SO. He walked away scoff-free, thanks to a catfight between an incompetent prosecutor and a corrupt judge (who befriended the culprit's daughter and rode horses in his stables), a lawyer doing the chewbacca defense and a late conversion to a black church, with sizeable donations and all. Stuff of a book and a movie.

      Sorry, posting anon because RS is no saint.

    2. Re:Wait... by AugstWest · · Score: 1

      What I'd most love to see is a new punishment for these types of crimes.

      They don't get a couple of years in country-club prison, they get 4 years living on minimum wage. They have to find and pay for their own housing, health care and food for 4 years on a minimum-wage job.

  32. Red Dot / Green Dot by exi1ed0ne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For some reason, everytime I email a C*O it turns out to be a "Resume Generating Event" - Nobody likes being upstaged, especially clueless "Leadership". If it is a good idea, those above you will torpedo you because they are threatened. If it's a bad idea, you just broadcasted it to the top dog.

    Let the retards drive the company into a mess, or do the right thing? It's all about the ethics though. I've always used the "Nuclear Bomb" theory myself when dealing with these situations. Sure, you can only do it once. However, take as many of the bastards with you as you can.

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    Pessimists.net - as if life wasn't depressing enough.
    1. Re:Red Dot / Green Dot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      For some reason, everytime I email a C*O it turns out to be a "Resume Generating Event"

      Here's a tip: Next time, try starting your e-mail with something other than "Dear Dumbfuck".

    2. Re:Red Dot / Green Dot by StopSayingYouSir · · Score: 5, Insightful
      For some reason, everytime I email a C*O it turns out to be a "Resume Generating Event"

      I wonder why...

      • clueless "Leadership"
      • retards
      • bastards
      Couldn't possibly have anything to do with your attitude, could it?
    3. Re:Red Dot / Green Dot by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      However, take as many of the bastards with you as you can.

      It's so nice to see the core American business traditions echoed here. We all must live up to expectations, after all.

    4. Re:Red Dot / Green Dot by exi1ed0ne · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Could be, but I really don't think so. Believe me, I wish it was that simple! I interact with lots of management (up to the board level) and in many cases the only job that many of these folks see is to keep theirs at any cost. I'm a little more PC than to address these individuals as "Hey, fuctard" no matter how well deserved! Favoratism, nepotism, and many other "isms" win out over the right thing every time.

      I've been the whipping boy in many scenerios, and the one thing it has taught me is to document everything. If a Leader is jockeying for political favor by offering up a sacrificial lamb, you'd better believe that I'll hang 'em out to dry.

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      Pessimists.net - as if life wasn't depressing enough.
    5. Re:Red Dot / Green Dot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi, Carly! Still looking for a new gig?

    6. Re:Red Dot / Green Dot by indiechild · · Score: 1

      Cause and effect? Or effect and cause?

  33. If you're the CEO... by Irish_Samurai · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...Isn't it your job to make the company run smoother and more efficiently? SO if you have to work longer hours to do that, you're getting screwed?

    "I can't fathom how investors would accept that as a [good] way to spend your time," says David D'Alessandro, who ran John Hancock Financial Services Inc. until shortly after its 2004 acquisition by Manulife Financial Corp.

    Notice he doesn't run that company anymore. He writes books instead. He may be a little out of the loop on what C-level culture has turned into.

    I work with C-levels in my business, so emailing them and getting a response is not that big a deal. I can see how it would really boost morale, and keep everyone on their toes, if the drones feel they could skip the middle man and go to the top with an idea or complaint. They will get direct credit for an idea, and won't have complaint's filtered by "buddy system" middle management.

  34. PM? by lbmouse · · Score: 0, Redundant

    "Rogers, who at 11 one evening was reading email from employees at home while nursing a vodka"

    Hope that is 'PM' and not 'Age'.

  35. Re:it's more self-aggrandizing egotistical behavio by yiantsbro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hey, we have a policy (quite and off the record) of reading employee email where I work as well--of course in our case I guess they didn't REALLY intend for us to read it.

  36. CEO mail mania allows real work to be done (maybe) by ngr8 · · Score: 1
    Kurt Vonnegut's Diana Moon Glampers had nothing on the email/phonemail/driveby management team I worked with.

    The problem: small company and attention needy management.

    When working on something complicated, the jefe would phone or email with a "let's pull up the carrots and see how they're doing".

    Not good to bother the watchmakers, even if its for "just a quick question".

    PTSD favorite moment: Phone call asking me if I got the email he'd just sent. Poppin' Paxil like Pez after two years there.

    To net it out: email obsession might healthy for the larger company's ceo. If they're spending all of their time on bs, it at least keeps 'em away from the workers. I say, get 'em a game console too. Maybe a coffee can in the lounge to pay for ceo's adult site subscriptions.

    --
    Verizon: Latin for "poor rural service".
  37. Uhuumm by dorkygeek · · Score: 2, Funny
    reading employee email helps the boss appear hands-on and accessible

    Which proves: we should all give the mailserver passwords to our bosses. Uh oh, wait a minute, he only reads the mails sent to him explicitely?! Sorry, misread that article again...

    --
    Windows is like decaf - it tastes like the real thing, but it won't get you through the day.
  38. How do they find time to read Slashdot? by ewg · · Score: 1

    Wow, with all those employee messages flooding in, when do they find time to read Slashdot?!

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    org.slashdot.post.SignatureNotFoundException: ewg
  39. An honest question... by DeusExMalex · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What exactly is it that CEOs do that they /shouldn't/ be reading email from their employees? Maybe I'm just uninformed, but don't CEOs merely preside over the company, while setting a direction and tone? It's not as if they spend all day coding or conducting experiments. What mission-critical function does the CEO serve such that reading employee email is a waste of time?

    I guess I'm asking what, exactly, a CEO should be doing instead of reading employee email?

    1. Re:An honest question... by ScentCone · · Score: 2, Informative

      I guess I'm asking what, exactly, a CEO should be doing instead of reading employee email?

      Spending hundreds of hours with accounting and legal teams dealing with mergers and acquisitions. Spending hundreds of hours making sure the right regional/departmental people are plugged into the right management jobs. Spending hundreds of hours being a face to investors (including institutional investors that can end up owning large portions of the company, and impact the stock price dramatically if they get the wrong idea about where the company's headed). That sort of thing. Doesn't mean there's no value is reading (wisely written/sent) employee e-mail, but thre are other duties - some of which actually are important to the future (and current) health of a thriving/growing company.

      --
      Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
    2. Re:An honest question... by shawb · · Score: 1

      Schmoozing. And I honestly don't mean that in a bad way. It's important for a company to keep contacts with the other companies they work with, or are considering entering into business with. When a CEO makes a deal, that deal is made with the other CEO, not the entire business (at least psychologically.) The CEO therefore wants to be someone that the other can relate to socially.

      Woah, that leads to another odd thought. Most people have a very hard time sociallizing with someone much lower than themselves economically. (I have heard that for most people 80 percent of their social acquaintances have less than 20% discrepancy in annual income. Can't find any sources though, so could be just urban legend, but seems to hold true for people I know.) So for one company to do business with another, it makes reasonable sense for their CEO to make about as much money as the CEO of the other company. A company whos CEO makes less money will be put at a competitive disadvantage in inter-organizational dealings, so paying more for that salary might actually end up making more money for the corporation. I'm not saying this is actually true, but it is a possibility of the way things work.

      --
      I'll never make that mistake again, reading the experts' opinions. - Feynman
    3. Re:An honest question... by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      Spending hundreds of hours being a face to investors

      Well, crap, I could do that, although my face might scare them away. Maybe I could hire myself out as a poison pill for companies fighting hostile takeovers.

    4. Re:An honest question... by BewireNomali · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I recently freelanced for a financial services firm on wall street that's on the downslope. The CEO (and namesake) of that company, is the laughing stock of the industry. His CEO "friends" no longer return his calls, and previously friendly requests for meetings and luncheons are now seen as acts of desperation by the beleaguered head of a floundering firm. As a consequence of his misfortunes, this CEO (not a bad guy in my estimation) has not taken a salary for two years, diverted some of his own wealth to the company, and actually exposed his personal credit in order to offset the decreasing value of the company's corporate credit rating.

      It's awful to see a guy who accomplished a lot in his time start to fall off. It's even more awful to see his former "friends" and associates look down on him and now exclude him from the same circles he traveled frequently in recent memory. I've learned so much from watching this guy and from watching social interactions amongst fierce predators on national geographic. There is no such thing as friendship or comraderie. Strength is respected and accepted. Weakness is pounced upon mercilessly.

      All of which to say, I think you have a point. A CEO's salary and prominence is his "big swinging dick" - and not having one can be a detriment. It's a good point.

      --
      un burrito me trampeó.
  40. How about some equity... by faloi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Skeptics say the practice distracts CEOs from more-pressing work -- and extends already long workdays

    But it's ok for the employees that get stuff out the door to be required to stay up until the wee hours of the morning to participate in a conference call with some people across the globe? Or for employees to spend all day answering emails and then start actually working round about 5? Don't expect me to cry a river for CEO's any time soon.

    --
    "It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education." -Albert Einstein
  41. ING DIRECT by Yodzilla · · Score: 0

    I can say from experience that ING DIRECT's CEO Arkadi Kuhlman is one of the nicest, most open guys I've ever met. I was an intern and they guy still took time to talk to me and answer my questions. The informality and social atmosphere of ING DIRECT really made me want to stay on full time.

  42. Re:it's more self-aggrandizing egotistical behavio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, except for the CEO running away with 500M and the "dick" sig, this sounds a lot like Earthlink...

  43. CEOs work? by tjstork · · Score: 1

    "already adds to their long workdays..."

    Geez, I feel real sorry for someone making 1,000 times as much as I do.

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    This is my sig.
  44. Sounds like a confession by hey! · · Score: 1

    that nobody who's trustworthy would work directly for them.

    Either that, or that nobody who reports to one of these CEOs should trust them.

    These are the only reasons why a CEO should be unable to trust his direct subordinates to handle these matters.

    Kaoru Ishikawa once said something to the effect that when quality becomes the overriding concern in a company, then falsehood disappears. The reason is when you strip out the machismo and self-aggrandizement, bad news can betreated as important management information.

    --
    Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
  45. Takes too long by cybaea · · Score: 1

    Email takes way too much valuable time. See this post from Marc Eisenstadt who collected 8 years of personal email data.

    http://www.corante.com/getreal/archives/2005/02/11 /eight_years_of_email_stats_pass_1.php

    He doesn't get much mail, but it still adds up to 2.5 hours per day, assuming you are very disciplined about it. And we all know that we are not.

    --
    Hi!
  46. at home while nursing a vodka, is the norm by digitaldc · · Score: 1

    'I don't look out the window. I use my BlackBerry and answer my email.'"
    'utility-industry veteran keeps his BlackBerry by his bed. Before going to sleep, he says, "you don't say your prayers. You check your email."'
    When he has trouble sleeping on a business trip, he adds, "I get up at 5 in the morning. I do the BlackBerry."

    The question then becomes what happens when you have no Blackberry due to service interruption or copyright infringement suits?

    Rather than nurse, I prefer to down my vodka in a fast, hurried frenzy of repeating chugs.

    --
    He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
  47. I call shenanagans... by js290 · · Score: 1

    Sounds like the pointy-haired types are on a PR blitz to mend the perceptions of them. The reality is emailing any management about what you really think is just an easier way for them to find out that *you* are the problem.

    --
    "Tempers are wearing thin. Let's just hope some robot doesn't kill everybody." --Bender
    1. Re:I call shenanagans... by bmetzler · · Score: 0
      The reality is emailing any management about what you really think is just an easier way for them to find out that *you* are the problem.

      Are you *the* problem?

      -Brent
    2. Re:I call shenanagans... by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      If you really are the problem, then a rational manager would act to correct that (by making you less problematic, or by making you go away). If what you mean is that management would take your message out of context and assume you're a whiner or the source of the problem being discussed, then that just comes down to poor rhetorical/communications skills.

      --
      Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
  48. GMs Bob Lutz - bubble of management by acomj · · Score: 1

    Bob Lutz, while not the CEO of GM is pretty high up and is pretty much there last hope as a company. He started keeping a blog and reads responses (similar to email). During an interview he likes it because it puts him in touch with people he'd never hear from. Gets him out of his management world view bubble so he says. He sees from product announcement 1) some people hate GMs products alway 2) somepeople alway like the products 3) some people give generally great insight into things. Lots of auto journalist read his thing looking for hints and clues about future products.

    Of course he didn't comment on this thread at all, but I find it interesting.

    http://fastlane.gmblogs.com/archives/2005/09/first _podcast_w_2.html

  49. Unbelievable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously? They're bragging about reading email from employees? Who the fuck are these idiots?

  50. employees should be a given by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what about a CEO that will answer emails or phone calls from customers?

  51. I regularly email my company's CEO... by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1

    Of course, there are only 10 people in the entire company.

    1. Re:I regularly email my company's CEO... by spacefight · · Score: 1

      10 in binary or in decimal? :P

    2. Re:I regularly email my company's CEO... by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1

      A in Hex.

    3. Re:I regularly email my company's CEO... by spacefight · · Score: 1

      Nice one!

  52. This is a lousy idea. by Overzeetop · · Score: 0

    I hate to say it, but CEOs of large corporations shouldn't be fielding emails from employees several levels down. The whole corporate structure is a pyramid, where each successive level filters and condenses the information to the next. Its sad, but true.

    In fact, instead of reading and replying to emails on his pim of choice, he should be checking reports, preparing for meetings, or gaining other data which will allow him to run the company more effectively. Staring out the window while being driven is a waste of corporate money. If he's got nothing better to do he can drive his own lazy self to the airport.

    As for long work days, a good CEO will probably spend 65-80 hours a week doing business related tasks. Although we expect them to be heartless, mechanical beings with no private life, they are, in fact human. At a certain point, there just isn't much more effort to give, and productivity will go down. Adding an hour a day - even for a worthwile cause - can result in other areas suffering. You won't find me arguing against the statement that CEOs get paid too much for the work that they do. Compensation aside, though, they work hard, long hours. If they have the right people below them, they shouldn't need to devote significant chunks of daily time to answering employee emails.

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    Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
    1. Re:This is a lousy idea. by Forbman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If the hours spent on getting the job done were the only metric, then just about everyone at a corporation these days should get CxO salaries.

      CEOs probably need to worry if morale is going in the shitters.

      In the military, good leaders have a feel for how their E-2s and E-3's are doing. They don't go "into the trenches" every day, but they also realize that they sometimes need to see the world with their own eyes, instead of through the beer glasses of the people below them. These are the same leaders that seem to engender a sense of wanting to go the extra mile in their subordinates, instead of needing to do it out of basic fear and survival.

      Some leaders you will willingly eat glass for. Others you do it for simply out of fear, if you cannot avoid having to do it.

    2. Re:This is a lousy idea. by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      On the contrary, CxO people should get managers salaries, not movie star salaries...but we digress.

      Good leaders - military and civilian - are generally good with people. They take time to work the trenches as part of their duties in an active role. Reading a hundred emails from the trenches everyday - getting a "push" feed from squeaky wheels - is probably not the best use of their time. Getting one-on-one, while less efficient, is probably more effective. Also, I'm sad to admit, an email pre-sreener is probably a better, more cost effective system.

      I hate the reality as much as the next guy, but we're no longer in a world where everybody has a say in all parts of their life.

      --
      Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
  53. Uses a Blackberry? by gsfprez · · Score: 1

    Hey, I own the intellectual property to Blackberry's you insensitive clod!
    - useless US IP whore

    --
    guns kill people like spoons make Rosie O'Donnell fat.
  54. Virtual Open Door Policy by ickypick · · Score: 1
    This is not unlike "open door" policies. Email has become as prominent a form of communication as speaking face-to-face, or more so to be more precise. Just with open door policies, it would not be appropriate for employees to be lined up all day outside the CEO's office. Only issues that -

    - have been escalated through appropriate channels with not success - are of a business critical nature

    should be brought to this level. Anything regarding discrimination, harrasment, etc. should be channeled through HR. If HR is unresponsive, then perhaps this channel could be used. If all of these rules are being followed, I can not see how a CEO, even in a very large company, would get more than a dozen emails per day. I would be intersted in seeing just how many of these emails were forwards of "Fight Gas Prices", "Save Your Manhood", and other Spam of the Day mails.

    ~ With great power, comes.....hot women, fancy cars, and a fat bank account...Oh, and some responsibility too!

  55. ceo who cant delagte tasks.... by bxbaser · · Score: 1, Troll

    thats what assistants are for.

    1. Re:ceo who cant delagte tasks.... by SmurfButcher+Bob · · Score: 1

      Eh, not exactly.

      The concept is simple - the messages are processed by someone with the authority to do something about them. Assistants have no such authority - they merely filter, and act as "middle management" - they only possess the authority to say "No", never "Yes". Like middle management, they are worthless in that regard.

      Delegation is a key role as you suggest, especially as the sender-base scales up - but the key is that the delegates must be *full* delegates. Anything less can be replaced by a 2-line pearl script.

      --

      help me i've cloned myself and can't remember which one I am

  56. Because..... by mctaylor82 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    That's just how we roll in Cincinnati.

  57. So... by idlake · · Score: 2, Funny

    who at 11 one evening was reading email from employees at home while nursing a vodka

    So, one wonders: had those E-mails actually been sent to him, or was he just spying on their mailboxes?

  58. Corporate counterinsurgency strategy? by Brunellus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A similar program was used to great success in the Philippines during the communist insurgency of the Hukbalahap between 1945 and 1952. Then-Secretary of Defense Ramon Magsaysay made it known that anyone could send a telegram to his office, free of charge, for almost any reason--to report military misconduct, corruption, rebel activity, etc.

    Thousands of telegrams came flooding in from rural stations. In one way, the program served as an extension of his famous random inspections of military units in the field--a move that increased effectiveness and readiness among those units. More importantly, it was a tremendous propaganda tool, giving even the most lowly peasant the chance to appeal to the very highest levels of the government--undercutting the mass base of the insurgents.

    This sort of policy, then, would be a great way of keeping a lid on corporate unhappiness, if combined with enlightened & effective management. Well we can dream, right?

  59. Driven to Meetings by vjmurphy · · Score: 1

    "While being driven to meetings, Pfizer's CEO says, 'I don't look out the window. I use my BlackBerry and answer my email.'"

    I do that too! Unfortunately, since I'm the one driving myself to meetings, the cops aren't particularly nice. Hmm, maybe I should email our CEO and ask for a personal driver, too, so that I can email while being driven to meetings.

    --
    Vincent J. Murphy
    Spandex Justice
  60. GET HIM! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get him with a stick,
    Get him with a whore.

    Yum dum didi dum.

    Burn him up,
    Send him to hell.

    Yum dum didi dum.

    Rip his skin off,
    Poke him dead.

    Yum dum didi dum.

    Digiterlize him,
    Then slashdot him a few times a week for a few months.

    muwhahaha

  61. GWB's mailbox by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 5, Funny

    God - Cease and Desist notice
    Amazon.com - Your order ("The Baby-sitters Club") has been shipped
    FCC - Revised naughty word list for your approval (added "bottom")
    New Orleans - HELP!
    CIA - Update: Still looking for WMDs
    Disney Corp. - Re: Extending copyrights to "end of time"
    Tom DeLay - Master, why have you forsaken me?
    Osama Bin Laden - Nyaah Nyaah!
    Southern Baptists - Correction, Earth is only 500 years old (not 5000)
    Satan - As per our agreement
    Iraq - LAST NOTICE: You still owe $50,000,000,000
    God - I did NOT tell you to bomb ANYONE!
    RNC - Shuttle trips for doners? What do you think?

    --
    It is by the juice of the coffee bean that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains. The stains become a warning
    1. Re:GWB's mailbox by cojerk · · Score: 1

      Michael Brown - Can you hook me up with another job? How 'bout one of them fancy Justice positions?

    2. Re:GWB's mailbox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      RNC - Shuttle trips for doners? What do you think?
      Mmm! Döners are delicious, but I don't know if it is good currency for shuttle trips.
    3. Re:GWB's mailbox by mph · · Score: 1
      Amazon.com - Your order ("The Baby-sitters Club") has been shipped
      Well, at least he's reading at a higher level than The Pet Goat .
    4. Re:GWB's mailbox by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

      I guess it would be for Turkish DONORS.

      --
      It is by the juice of the coffee bean that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains. The stains become a warning
  62. What do CEOs actually DO? by bitslinger_42 · · Score: 1

    I've long wondered this. What is it about a CEO's job that makes them worth 400 times what I make? No one yet has been able to even explain to me what a CEO does, yet alone be able to justify the grandiose pay scale beyond the banal company-prestige argument (you're not a Fortune 500 company unless your CEO makes X million dollars).

    1. Re:What do CEOs actually DO? by generic-man · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's supply and demand -- the same market factors that make A-Rod worth 400 times what you make. The CEO is often the most publicly-visible representative for your corporation, and his ability to make decisions about the operations of a company is just as important as his ability to go on CNBC and say something that makes people buy your stock. Someone needs an ideal mix of education, connections, public-relations acumen, and management experience to be a good CEO. After all, when you're the most public figure of a company, people from snarky bloggers to snarky software engineers all have better ideas than you do.

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    2. Re:What do CEOs actually DO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if my former CEO is anything to go by, a distinct lack of moral fiber.

      I emailed him once. I didn't get a reply.

      I read later that he was also co-chairman of the board that agreed to entend his employment as CEO by a further two years, at which point he immediately resigned, but exercised the clause that stated he still got paid a huge salary+benefits for those two years. And remained on the board.

      Wish I'd thought of that.

    3. Re:What do CEOs actually DO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is such a thing as "a good CEO." Yours obviously wasn't.

    4. Re:What do CEOs actually DO? by dbcad7 · · Score: 1
      Although you are probably right, that a certain amount of "hollywood" charisma will help sell shares of stock. I beleive this is more for companies trying to sell "promises" than actual product.

      A CEO with a "track record" obviously helps build cofidence, and raises money for the company he comes to save. So really he is selling himself and the possibility that he will make share holders money.

      There is a serious problem with this "hollywood" buiseness mentality, in that putting a high paid "star" in the role of a bad movie, may make it more interesting to watch, but it will still be a bad movie. Putting an overpriced "star" into an already decent movie, is also a waste of money.

      A good company, with a good product, making decent profits, does not need to pay their CEO millions of dollars a year. PERIOD. why ? for what ?

      regards

      dbcad7

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      waiting for ad.doubleclick.net
    5. Re:What do CEOs actually DO? by djp928 · · Score: 1

      It's supply and demand -- the same market factors that make A-Rod worth 400 times what you make

      Yeah, but at least I have tangible evidence of what A-Rod is doing to earn his money. I see my CEO four times a year at the quarterly meetings (and now they're making those three-times-a-year meetings, even!) at which he blows smoke up my ass about how good/bad the company is doing and how disirregardless of company performance, good or bad or status quo, he can't afford to give me a raise. And inbetween those times, I have no idea what he's doing.

      A-Rod, meanwhile, is hitting a little white ball and running around the bases, and the Yankees are in the playoffs.

      -- Dave

    6. Re:What do CEOs actually DO? by Zevon+2000 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Generic-Man is right on. At most really large corporations, a CEO will spend 70-90% of his time in meetings. Often his presence is primarily to do with appearances. It's like having the King present--everyone is on their best behavior, does their best work, and considers the project that much more important. The CEO showing up at an employee's event gives that event credibility in the mind of the employees, and it validates his work.

      The CEO is generally one smart dude, but he by no means has to be the smartest. In a large corporation it's just physically impossible for him (or her) to know everything that's going on. He just needs to be able to guide the ship, motivate employees, inspire confidence in clients and investors, and make the occassional high level decision with input from his staff.

      --
      "Someone somewhere had to wear pants for the first time. The meek and indecisive do not change our world." -Montville
    7. Re:What do CEOs actually DO? by Dan-DAFC · · Score: 1

      disirregardless

      That's just disirresponsible.
      --
      Suck figs.
    8. Re:What do CEOs actually DO? by djp928 · · Score: 1

      Well, people insist on using "irregardless" as if it's an actual word. I figured I'd just go with the flow, and add another negation prefix. At least this way the three negatives make the word negative again.

      -- Dave

    9. Re:What do CEOs actually DO? by drsmithy · · Score: 1
      disirregardless

      Ô.õ

      Words like this make me think of that "don't cross the streams" line in Ghostbusters.

    10. Re:What do CEOs actually DO? by Matje · · Score: 1

      It's supply and demand

      If that were the case, the high salaries should be explainable by a lack of supply right?

      But that doesn't make sense. Why would the supply of people willing to be CEO be so tight? Hell, wouldn't everyone be willing to be CEO?

      Since CEO salaries have risen relative to 'normal' salaries in recent years, you would even have to explain why the supply of CEOs has apparently become even more tight in recent years.

      What I think happened is that the rise in CEO salaries sparked a 'me-too' spiral in the corporate boardrooms. Somehow, at some point a link was established between high-performance and high-pay. In other words, the amount of pay the CEO received was supposedly linked to his performance. All fair, you probably think.

      But what this means is that if the CEO of a comparative company earns more than you do, you by definition are not a good CEO. That reflects bad on the company, since the shareholders demand that your company is run by the best CEO in the world. In other words, as soon as the pay of a comparative CEO rises, your salary must rise as well just to signal to the outer world that you are still a top-notch CEO. A never ending spiral is born.

    11. Re:What do CEOs actually DO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think "everyone wants to be CEO." Everyone wants to second-guess the CEO, whether by talking about him behind is back, criticizing him to his face, chatting about him on (Slashdot, a personal web site, an anonymous forum), etc. Not so many people want to live in meetings, travel constantly, and be responsible for a whole company, even if the pay is good. (Hint: not every CEO makes $200 zillion a year.)

    12. Re:What do CEOs actually DO? by Chuckstar · · Score: 1

      Its not the supply of people willing to be CEO that's important. Its the supply of people able to be a top quality CEO. That's a much smaller number.

    13. Re:What do CEOs actually DO? by Matje · · Score: 1

      That is an obvious reply. But think about it. How does that explain the sudden rise in CEO salaries, relative to the 'normal' salary? Do you really believe that the supply of Top Quality CEO's has been steadily dropping for the past (say) 10 years? Why would it?

      Besides, the fact that the amount of qualified CEO candidates is less than the amount of candidates does _not_ imply that the supply of qualified CEO's is tight.

    14. Re:What do CEOs actually DO? by Chuckstar · · Score: 1

      If there are so many good CEO candidates running around, how come so many companies have bad CEOs?

    15. Re:What do CEOs actually DO? by Matje · · Score: 1

      Interesting question indeed. Could it be that the current hiring process for CEOs favors bad CEOs over good CEOs?

  63. What's more fun is when you do it accidentally. by FooAtWFU · · Score: 1
    Okay, so I had this internship at IBM. One of my fellow interns went to email the lab's administative assistant, who's called "Sam", over some trivial matter.

    As it turns out, Lotus Notes knows about everyone at IBM, and so if you want to send an email to Sam, it really does send an email straight to Sam, who also has an 'open inbox' policy.

    Fortunately, his personal secretary intercepted the message. :)

    --
    The World Wide Web is dying. Soon, we shall have only the Internet.
  64. Good Idea by pipingguy · · Score: 1


    - Paul

    BTW I can see you from the plane, get back to work, slacker, or you're fired.

  65. Riiight.... by Svartalf · · Score: 1

    And unless you get lucky, you're going to stay a peon with that attitude...

    If you think that it's all easy work, you'd be mistaken. Some executive management does in fact work like demons so you can have a job to work at. They're not all like the Enron, Worldcom, or Tyco bunch...

    --
    I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
  66. Hah! -- Fired for talking to VP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    Once upon a time, while working for a large government contractor at certain aerospace-related agency, one of the contractor's VP's showed up and said "If you have any problem, please come and talk to me this afternoon".

    So I did.

    My problem was that the group I had been newly attached to had been physically fragmented by the general installation manager. Members were on different floors even though contiguous office space was available. I had talked to the manager about this, and he has just grunted at me.

    So it seemed reasonable to take up the VP's invitation. Since I'd solved several problems that others had attempted and failed, and was generally liked and respected by the people I worked with, I didn't think this would cause a problem.

    As I walked out of the VP's office (I was later told) he said to his assistant "fire that guy".

    When the manager requested my fellow employees to provide complaints about my work, me, or anything else to form grounds for my dismissal he got nothing. (He eventually solved this problem by falsifying entries in my employee folder).

    My advice: don't email the CEO if you like your job.

    You can always be downsized.

    ps: don't waste you time telling me what I could have done -- this was long ago and far away.

  67. On an entertaining note... by HerculesMO · · Score: 4, Funny

    And please excuuuuuuse me for being a bit sardonic in my wit, I was just joking around.

    The Tyco CEO (Dennis Kozlowski) went to where I graduated, Seton Hall University. He donated millions there and has a building named after him (at least I think he still does). He came to my school about 3 weeks before charges were brought up against him to give a speech, one I was required to attend by my Business Law class.

    The topic? "Business Ethics on a Global Scale"

    And even more entertaining? That's the THIRD building our school has named after a convicted criminal. I think we have a record or something...

    --
    The price is always right if someone else is paying.
  68. I bet it's rather amusing to read that INBOX by kingsqueak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think it's a good idea to have an open channel to the top, and I've worked with many principals that really do listen. However from what I've seen, most employees should think long and hard before clicking on 'send'.

    From what I've seen in quite small companies with principals open to direct communication, the majority of the employees do themselves more harm than good simply because they have no real perspective as to where they fit in the business.

    An example. Recently at a company 'meet and greet' dinner so that the local engineers can meet each other and find out what skillsets are there, a co-worker completely confused his place and what was to be gained with the meeting. The CEO, COO, and CTO were present along with a bunch of co-workers from local client sites.

    The co-worker babbled on and on about petty nonsense that was specific to our one particular site. Nothing to do with the other engineers' situations. Nothing having to do with company business at all, just petty political issues and generally self-serving complaints. Basically the co-worker saw what he did as "I showed them, I'm nobody's fool and they will see how powerful and valuable I am". The net result was that the CEO referred to the co-worker as 'a cancer on the company that should be removed at all costs'. The co-worker just doesn't have a clue about what it means to own and run a business and what his place is as an asset to the company.

    This isn't uncommon from what I've seen. People have this weird utopian view of how things should be, without any reality in the mix. Though ultimately it is only the fault of the employee, a direct channel to the top is only the express to unemployment for many confused people.

    If you can't clearly see the role of your CEO, you'd better think carefully before you click 'send'.

    1. Re:I bet it's rather amusing to read that INBOX by dubl-u · · Score: 1

      Basically the co-worker saw what he did as "I showed them, I'm nobody's fool and they will see how powerful and valuable I am". The net result was that the CEO referred to the co-worker as 'a cancer on the company that should be removed at all costs'.

      Heh. Maybe that's why the CEOs read employee mail: so they can root out the complete retards. Of course, the positive spin is that by inviting everybody to email him, he gets a lot of people thinking about the big picture, which is valuable on its own.

      Really, I think it's a positive trend. Either the CEO listens only to the people directly under him, and so lives in a mediated-reality bubble, or he casts a wider net. Email from random people with a bee in their bonnet isn't an unbiased sample, but it's better than listening only to a bunch of people who do no actual work and all got their MBAs at the same 5 schools.

  69. The mandatory: by Rodong · · Score: 1

    In soviet russia, vodka nurses CEO.

  70. CEO-Dot (aka Slashdot for CEO's) by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Instead of direct email, they need to have a board pretty much like slashdot.
    New employees would start off with little Karma but could be modded up if they make a good suggestion.

    The CEO could choose to read "3" or "5" posts depending on their free time.
    I'd keep everything- even meta moderating.

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    1. Re:CEO-Dot (aka Slashdot for CEO's) by rcastro0 · · Score: 1

      Well, the article does mention that the practice
      may prevent another Enron. Can you imagine someone
      saying at a public company board: "I caught my boss
      manipulating numers!" ?

      Then again, emails to the CEO couldnt have helped Enron:
      The CEO was involved...

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  71. nursing a vodka? by Nonesuch · · Score: 1
    I can just imagine the replies I would get if the CEO were "reading email from employees at home while nursing a vodka".

    From: The Pointy-hairiest of the PHBs
    To: IT Engineering-ALL
    Subject: 2006 Budget
    i lovesh yous guys. u r the bestest engineeers n e where.

    hey, check out this websit i found petty god piracy.
    we need this!!!111 how sun cn u turn it on?

    ceo

    Which immediately leads me to thinking that somebody doesn't know the meaning of "non-repudiation".

  72. Distracted eyes. by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    While being driven to meetings, Pfizer's CEO says, 'I don't look out the window. I use my BlackBerry and answer my email.'

    Wow, for once I'm glad some rich executive has his own driver.

  73. Typical of D'Allesandro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I can't fathom how investors would accept that as a [good] way to spend your time," says David D'Alessandro, who ran John Hancock Financial Services Inc. until shortly after its 2004 acquisition by Manulife Financial Corp.

    Mr. D'Alessandro, who is 54 years old, limited email access to the executives who reported to him. Soliciting email from all employees can "turn into a huge complaint line to the CEO, and you can't get out of it," he warns.
    ---

    This is so typical of D'Alessandro, the imperial CEO. His admin did everything but wipe his butt for him.

    God forbid he should be spoken to by the unwashed (aka, anyone who does not have VP before his name).

    As is expected for the breed, D'Alessandro got lazy and bored, so he sold off the company to boost his final payday (to the tune of 8 figures) and retired to a co-op in New York City. Who cares about all the unwashed who lost their jobs and the reduced committment to Boston? Certainly not D'Alessandro...

  74. Bah! That is nothing. by dwalsh · · Score: 1

    The CEO of an unnamed company I knew used to read all the empolyees emails as well. All of them. Every one. Whether they were addressed to him or not. :-)

    It was funny, the guy who worked there was sent an email with a read-notification flag set on it. The sender then recieved two notifications that the email has been read - one from the CEO. Then the jig was up.

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  75. Re:it's more self-aggrandizing egotistical behavio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, you worked for EDS too?

  76. Re:it's more self-aggrandizing egotistical behavio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, he read and answered his e-mail... but he always signed it (and I'm not making this up), "dick".

    Ummm... I expect that was his name. It's actually quite common to sign emails with your name.

  77. "Nursing a vodka" by latifpaws · · Score: 1

    He was nursing a vodka? his nipple must have become quite soggy.


    Thanks, Emo P.

  78. Re:Hah! -- Fired for talking to VP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does the parent message and this one refer to the same incident?

  79. 400 times average pay. Not tech pay. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1
    I've made more then my manager.

    So should every geek.

    It's closer to 100 times top perfoming tech pay (or you should change jobs).

    --
    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  80. Nursing a Vodka? by slickwillie · · Score: 1
    Vodka is not to be nursed. It is meant to be drunk the way Russians do it - by pounding shots.

    Try nursing this.

    Nurse a cold, a kid, or even a gin and tonic, but never a vodka.

  81. foo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    testing

  82. MY Dot Com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I met the VP of developemt at the merger interview. He told my boss, I was the only one worth keeping, and I had more enthusism than the rest of the company. ( within 1 year, only 1 was left, and he is VP of marketing. ).

    I had lunch with the CEO, with 10 others, and within about 5 minutes, of talking about who WE as a company were in the market place. the CEO said "Come and sit around here." He listened, and said a few things when I got to place I didnt know . I can still hear him say: "Well, thats because...", and "if you look at it this way..." He said to me after we were walking back to the company, "If you have any more questions, email me or call me." I remember emailing him how the marketing meeting went on packaging, and "your boss Freddy yelled so loud the windows shook." I asked him if Freddy had a point. he said "Yea, after that... we all listened, and although it wasnt settled, we were headed in the right direction."

    What was important to my CEO was that he was approachable. Still is I hear. Has a cube, just like everybody else. Made a hell of a lot of money when they got bought out. I should find out if he is sitting on the BOD of .....

  83. Nobody mentioned so far - In Soviet Russia by slickwillie · · Score: 1

    your vodka nurses you.

  84. Did your dad screw his corp. AND take home $113m? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    you know, like Philip Purcell of Morgan Stanley did this year?:

    Purcell's golden parachute contains a cornucopia of goodies.

    Despite the fall in earnings in the second quarter of the year, Purcell gets a departure bonus worth $42.7 million. The cash payment, which was not in his original contract, is based on a formula that adjusts the bonus up or down depending on the difference between Morgan Stanley's fiscal 2005 and 2004 pre-tax profit. Morgan Stanley's pre-tax profit is down about 6 percent this year.

    Purcell gets $34.7 million of restricted stock and an estimated $20.1 million in stock options, based on Thursday's closing share price of $53.34 and he gets retirement benefits with a lump-sum value around $11 million.

    In addition to medical benefits, $250,000 in lieu of other benefits and an office and administrative and secretarial expenses every year for the rest of his life, Morgan Stanley will make $250,000 in charitable donations a year in his name. Purcell will be spared writing his own charity cheques.

    your dad is probably a very hard-working person indeed.

    but the thing you must keep in mind is that the hard part of running a corporate empire is starting it from the ground-up -- as it sounds like your father did. once it is up-and-running, as a CEO, you are merely continuing the policies and procedures of your predecessor. or, if they screwed-up, making logical modifications to shift in a direction away from that of your predecessor.

    that's the case of Philip Purcell, the CEO of Wall Street's arguably most-respected financial firm who sent its stock and profits in the toilet, and who walked away with about 100 times what my lifetime compensation will amount to. For failing to do his job!

    I know libertarians (normally the ideological political defenders of such massive wealth-transfer distortions) who are angry at this payout. imagine what other, less fervently pro-business folks are like!
  85. Re:it's more self-aggrandizing egotistical behavio by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 1

    As much as a CEO who reads his email sounds like a good thing, emailing the CEO (or upper management in general) usually results in you getting "noticed" in one way or another. Now, it's entirely possible that things will turn-out OK, but personally, I prefer the "keep a low profile" routine. You're less-likely to be "let go" if they don't know about you...

    I tend to agree with another poster here that mentioned the sad fact of management/employee relations these days - if your idea is good, someone higher-up will feel threatened (result: you're under the spotlight and first against the wall), and if your idea is bad, you get the same treatment.

    Fortunately, I currently have both a good manager and good boss (and I'm under a union contract, so I feel reasonably safe), but I still try and keep out of the line of fire whenever possible...

    N.

    --
    "Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence." - Charles de Gaulle
  86. Re:it's more self-aggrandizing egotistical behavio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    chuckle.

    I never worked for them, but I worked for a company that did work for them, so I get it.

  87. or use /. style ranking by majid_aldo · · Score: 1

    ..for communications that can be public. have all the company be able to read it.

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