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Jack Thompson Tossed Out Of Court

dmouritsendk writes "According to a story at IGN, Jack Thompson has been removed from the lawsuit filed by the families of two murdered police officers vs. Rockstar, Sony and game retailers. While previously he stated that he had withdrawn, details have now come out that the judge actually pulled his temporary license to practice law in Alabama. The reason for all this? Thompson's behavior." From the article: "The removal of Thompson from the case does not necessarily represent the end of the trial as his long-time associate Ray Reiser will assume the role of lead counsel for the case's plaintiffs. Not one to take such things lying down, Thompson fired back at Judge Moore by claiming the the judge has 'has violated... The Alabama Canons of Judicial Ethics by his unfortunate, improper, and prejudicial acts in this case, at the expense of three bereaved Alabama families.'"

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  1. Who is Jack Thompson? by colin_n · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can anyone explain who this guy is?

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    1. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Braino420 · · Score: 3, Funny

      yup

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    2. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by pat_trick · · Score: 4, Informative
    3. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Jerry+Coffin · · Score: 4, Informative
      Can anyone explain who this guy is?

      The short version is that he's a guy on a crusade against video games. One longer version can be found Here.

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    4. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Dante+Shamest · · Score: 3, Funny
      Can anyone explain who this guy is?

      Couldn't Google or Wikipedia for his name, could you???

      The only person who's dumb enough not to do that is...OMG IT'S YOU, JACK THOMPSON!

    5. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by merlin_jim · · Score: 4, Informative

      An asshole Christian fundemental lawyer who acts as if he believes that violence in videogames is solely responsible for violence in America. Because he states these facts so loudly, he is commonly interviewed on sunday morning talk shows and the like whenever some violent act occurs.

      The funny part being that the things he claims happens in these games, many times is false; whether lie by ignorance or intent I'll leave an excercise to the reader.

      He also appears to believe that his internal thought process is the one most likely for the US government to follow, and displays genuine surprise (and shock) when this is not the case, as in recently when he tried to get Gabe and Tycho of Penny Arcade locked up. Because they posted a blog indicating what a dick he was being to them and their loyal readers took affront to this mistreatment and wrote to tell him so; some of them not so politely, as I understand it.

      One may also speculate that the massive traffic from Penny Arcade shut down his web server. But you can hardly blame that on PA can you? ;)

      The funny part is, it was all because Jack promised $10,000 to the charity of choice of the first game development team that made a video game with a certain (particularly twisted) plotline, I guess to prove some sort of point (its my understanding that Jack is given to hyperbole)... when someone came through and made a (pretty extensive) mod to GTA putting Jack in the gunman's shoes raiding and shooting the employees of game stores, he refused to pay up.

      So Penny Arcade went ahead and paid up. That, apparently, is what started all of this.

      I recommend going through Penny Arcade's recent news archive for more details...

      Oh and thinkgeek DOES sell an "I hate Jack Thompson" T-shirt if you're interested...

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    6. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Because he states these facts so loudly

      You misspelled "misguided opinions" in your post.

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    7. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 5, Funny

      An asshole Christian fundemental lawyer

      Please don't use the term "Christian" to refer to Jack Thompson, for the same reason that you shouldn't use the term "monkey" to refer to George W. Bush.

    8. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by merlin_jim · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The great part is... I don't need to take the moral high ground!

      Morality in the context of Jack Thompson must refer specfically to religious morality. As a Zen Buddhist I care nothing for his Christian morality. Neither, incidentally, does the justice system of the United States of America.

      Yes, I truly hate the man; both for purposefully deceiving America about what is involved in my favorite hobby with the intent of attaching a social stigma to the practice of such, for striving to make the practice of this hobby impossible for me and many others through barring and outlawing the content, and for trying to hold responsible the makers of videogames for acts which should be laid firmly at the foot of the persons doing these heinous deeds, or in some cases, partially at the feet of their parents.

      Yes. I can hate a man that does those things. And I don't feel any need to pander to some so called moral high ground... I'm not trying to convince anyone I'm right. I know I'm right. If other people want to believe me, great. If not, well that's their choice. I'm pretty sure that if you stood me and Jack Thompson in a room together for five minutes on national television, and I said the most inflammatory hateful things that is in my soul to say, that I would STILL come out of the debate looking far more credible.

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    9. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by ToasterofDOOM · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Even so, it is wrong to ridicule Christianity. Most Christians simply laugh off this guy, myself included, even down here in the 'Bible Belt'. Trust me, he is all politics and this has nothing to do with his Christianity.

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    10. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by merlin_jim · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I do apologize to all the Christians out there. Calling Jack Thompson Christian is a lot like calling Osama Bin Ladin Muslim... Many (in fact most) Christians are calm level headed people who would never knowingly lie about a videogame simply to prove a point, would not start a one-man crusade against immorality in the (supposedly) free United States, and would certainly not try to lay responsibility for hundreds of murders at the doorstep of videogame publishers, and not the people who, you know, pulled triggers to make bullets fly through the air at other people...

      Most Christians would also not associate what is obivously a simple (and asinine) teenaged prank on a plaintiff in a multi-million dollar lawsuit...

      (from wiki's jack article)

      Upon returning home Jack Thompson discovered a tube of vaginal lubricant left at his front door. Thompson said he believes Rockstar may have been responsible for leaving it there.

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    11. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by RoadDoggFL · · Score: 5, Funny
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    12. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by merlin_jim · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're right and I do want to make clear that when I talk about Jack Thompson, his brand of Christianity has as much to do with what they practice at the church down the street as McDonald's McFish sandwich does with the ocean...

      To a man like this, his religion is a tool. It's one he brandies about and waves to get what he wants. Sure he likes to wave his Bible around and pretend that God is personally on his side. But if you were to show him some Biblical passages about freedom of choice and the ability of lawyers to turn darkness into light and so on... well I'm pretty sure he'd just rip those pages out and burn them on the courthouse steps...

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    13. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by LithiumX · · Score: 4, Funny

      I still don't fully comprehend this whole Karma Whore concept.

      What is the advantage to trying to rack up a whole lot of karma, when from what I understand it's already capped? My karma read "excellent" quite some time back, and since then I've gotten high karma on most of my points (it must be my trim Buddha-ish physique)... but other than having two initial points instead of one when my posts are submitted, I don't see how things are any different, nor have I seen anything change since then.

      If we rack up massive karma points, do we cross some threshhold? Do we suddenly start seeing articles before they're actually written, or do women start showing up at our door? I'd whore my karma all over the place if the chicks dig it.

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    14. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by RoadDoggFL · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes. Yes to all of that.

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    15. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by susano_otter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not disputing anything you say, except that "violent" is a relative term. Humans are no more violent than hawks, or bears, or rhinoceroses, or elephants, or even dolphins.

      What is different about humans, apparently, is our sense of shame about our violence. Humans seem to be alone among all creatures in believing they are out of place in the evolved order. Humans alone seem to regret doing what all other animals do instinctively, without remorse.

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    16. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by carlos_benj · · Score: 3, Funny

      I admittedly don't know much about Zen Buddhism, but hatred and enlightenment don't sound like compatible concepts to me.

      I think he's a fundamentalist Buddhist.... See, there's the difference.

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    17. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 4, Funny

      A: He's the guy who's going to sue you for not having heard of him, thereby damaging his reputation by implying that he isn't famous.

      A: He's the guy who's going to sue the judge who threw him out of court for damaging his reputation and hurting his chances of winning his case.

      A: He's the guy who's going to sue Slashdot for mentioning his name in a forum that is strongly biasted against stupidity.

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    18. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I still don't fully comprehend this whole Karma Whore concept.

      Posting as AC to avoid Karma Whoring....

      The problem with KW is that it takes about 5 seconds to cut & paste an article or provide a really obvious link. This action may be very useful (esp. in /.'d sites), but you don't want to give the poster Karma. The harmless reason is that one shouldn't get the credit for someone else's content. The cynical reason is that it helps trolls rack up enough Karma to get the +1 credit, which in turn makes it much easier for them to add troll comments and/or noise to future threads.

      Thus, if you see a non-AC posting posting of an article's text or a useful link, the correct mode is "Funny" so they won't receive any karma.

    19. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Irish_Samurai · · Score: 4, Insightful
      A possible alternate translation (and the one I choose to believe) is that unfulfilled desire is the root of all evil.

      Have you even read any buddhist writings? It's called the center path - and is the only path to enlightenment. You say that you prefer a different translation to the Siddhuartha and believe that ignoring desire is the root of all evil. That's called being selfish and self centered. That is not enlightenment, that is a cop out.

      Can you actually say you are a better person because you do whatever you want to do? Because that means you know nothing of restraint or sacrifice.

      I don't believe that hatred and enlightenment are incompatible.

      Let me appeal to your "Zen" more than the "Buddhism" with this quote:

      Those who are good at fighting do not become angry.
      Those who are good at knighthood do not become overly militaristic.
      Those who are accustomed to defeating their enemies do not get involved.
      - Sun Tzu.


      If hatred and enlightenment are not incompatable to you, that is because you are not enlightened.

      Perhaps you meant violence and enlightenment are not incompatable.
    20. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Talinom · · Score: 4, Funny

      To a man like this, his religion is a tool.

      Whoa. Question: I thought that Jack Thompson was the tool.

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    21. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by StarKruzr · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course, for some people, even Jack Thompson is going to hell.

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    22. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by merlin_jim · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well I never claimed enlightenment.

      And I never said that I do whatever I want to do and call it religion.

      Nor did I say that I believe that knowledge of restraint and sacrifice are required to be spiritual.

      I merely said that unfulfilled desire is the root of all evil. That's just one sentence. I don't believe that means I should have my every desire fulfilled; only that I don't believe it's wrong to have desires and passions that are fulfilled.

      Nor do I believe one must purge oneself of all desire to attain enlightenment; only that one must learn to fulfill all desire, even the ones that cannot be fulfilled. And to answer your indirect question, yes I do believe that I am a much better person because of this.

      Are my thoughts different from those of most Buddhists? Sure are.

      That doesn't change the fact that I have them and that I believe they are in accordance with the group of teachings and writings that most people would identify as Zen Buddhist.

      And you, my friend, I think need to examine your inclinations here. Are you a Zen Buddhist to prove to other people that you can masterbate in a temple with an Eastern interior decorator better than anyone else? Or to achieve enlightenment?

      I'm not here to argue over my beliefs. Nor do I find such argument particularly productive. I didn't form my beliefs in a day reading some box of cereal. These are firmly held and well thought out convictions that I've held (and evolved) since I vowed to be completely nonviolent for the rest of my life nearly fifteen years ago. I appreciate your thoughts, I really do, but have to question the validity of advice on being a Zen Buddhist from a man whose primary purpose seems to be not to enlighten me, but to convince me I'm wrong.

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    23. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by anotherzeb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Mate, as a 'Friends of the Wetern Buddhist Order' Buddhist, I'd like to suggest that you modify your meditation. Through correct meditation procedure, you can learn to maximise positive desires - I guess that the wish to achieve enlightenment for the benefit of all sentient beings would be the big one, but there are plenty of others. You can also minimise negative desires - the ones that lead you off the eightfold path would be the main ones, but if you are thinking of killing or maiming someone, then a meditation technique called the Metta Bhavna sounds like the one for you. This can be used to eradicate your negative deires - the main format allows a person not to feel hatred to an individual and it can be modified to promote positive feelings towards all others. I'm not at the stage where I'd be nice to Saddam Hussein and I've never planned on killing someone, but it does help me to act towards others in a way that I consider positive

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    24. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by slavemowgli · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, there's no further effect - the karma bonus for comments is pretty much the only goodie you get. You might still try to get as many +5 comments as possible, for example, but that's sportiness rather than anything else. (Slashdot golf?)

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    25. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by compro01 · · Score: 2, Informative

      facts are not facts if they are false

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    26. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Aeiri · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ... but that's sportiness rather than anything else. (Slashdot golf?)

      GOLF IS NOT A SPORT!!!

      Luckily, since my karma has been topped off at Excellent for a good year or two, I think I have enough slack to handle the -1 Trolls and -1 Flamebait moderations that are sure to follow :).

    27. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by Irish_Samurai · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Are you a Zen Buddhist to prove to other people that you can masterbate in a temple with an Eastern interior decorator better than anyone else? Or to achieve enlightenment?


      Where did I ever claim I was a buddhist? I claim that you sir are not a buddhist, and if you are - you're a really shitty one.

      You claim to be a Zen Buddhist, yet you warp the teachings to coincide with what you believe them to be, that's not how it works my friend. If you want to go and behave in any way you want and then claim you subscribe to a well defined doctrine, you are no better than Jack claiming he's a christian.

      Your interpretation is all well and good, you can create any splinter faction you want, but don't tarnish the reputation of those who truly strive for enlightenment by claiming your one of them. Your beliefs are in now way, shape, or form congruent with Zen Buddhist teachings. You have stated youu are a hedonist, that you hate, and have berated me for having an opposing opinion. That's real enlightened of you.

      I see guys like you all day, variable definitions of things so they can never be wrong. Everything is up to interpretation because you actually understand nothing. You can't handle even the most simple of truths because it means you would have to change your approach to the world. Your complete lack of understanding of anything I have said proves that you know nothing of Zen or Buddhism. You may have cultivated your beliefs, but that lends them no credibility. You associate them with a an easily recognizable title so that others can marvel at your superiority. That fact is, you are not what you claim you are.

    28. Re:Who is Jack Thompson? by pclminion · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Even so, it is wrong to ridicule Christianity. Most Christians simply laugh off this guy, myself included, even down here in the 'Bible Belt'.

      You need to do more than just laugh him off. Jack Thompson and his ilk associate themselves with your religion. You need to proactively fight against the influences of such people. Otherwise people like myself and the OP will continue to associate them with Christianity.

      Just look at how Islam has been progressively villainized in the past 50 years. Why is this? It is because of the lack of large-scale Muslim demonstrations against terroristic violence.

      What are we supposed to think when a lunatic like this spews ridiculous garbage and there is no massive Christian outcry? To us, it looks an awful lot like you agree with him.

  2. What can I say but... by Psychor · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hit the road, Jack.

    1. Re:What can I say but... by colmore · · Score: 5, Funny

      and don't you come back, no. -- Moore.

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  3. Hmm by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 2, Funny

    Any chance we can, as Red from The Shawshank Redemption so eloquently put "have him do the airdance before the first May flowers push up out the ground?"

  4. Maybe the judge saw his book on Amazon by ishmalius · · Score: 2, Funny

    That would inspire the typical "Who the hell IS this guy?" response.

  5. Grinning from ear to ear. by sc0ttyb · · Score: 4, Funny

    This isn't the same as him being barred from practicing law PERIOD, but I just couldn't help myself...

    *plays Final Fantasy IV victory fanfare and dances*

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    1. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by ptomblin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just wait. A lawyer friend of mine says that this order will be submitted to the Florida Bar, which is currently investigating his behaviour, and it WILL be used as evidence against him. Especially the bits about him violating the judge's order, and his spamming the judge and the opposing counsel with press releases and long paranoid diatribes.

      I've read some of the emails that he's sent out. Did you know that his wife got some sample packet of vaginal lubricant in the mail, and he uses that as evidence that Blank Rome (the opposing law firm), the judge, and the Republican Party are all out to get him? Fascinating stuff.

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    2. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by sc0ttyb · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wait, he thinks the Republican Party is out to get him? I thought he pandered to the neo-con Republicans with his Marguerite Perrin-style nonsensical raving.

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    3. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by ptomblin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Don't look for consistency in the ravings of Jack. He also blames a lot of stuff on Clinton.

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    4. Re:Grinning from ear to ear. by sc0ttyb · · Score: 4, Funny

      In a sick way, I'll miss Jack when he's gone. I mean, reading all those E-mails of him just flying off the deep end, his verbal diarrhea on TV, and getting one-up'd by 14-year-olds filled my days with a great deal of amusement.

      If Jack Thompson has done one thing for gamers it's made them laugh. He truly is the Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf of the videogame world.

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  6. Jack needs to... by Chickenofbristol55 · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...chill out- dude try playing some violent video games, gets all that anger out of you. I like the part in San Andreas were you screw your girlfriend, ever hear about that?

    Oh, crap...

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    1. Re:Jack needs to... by Kazzahdrane · · Score: 2, Funny

      You must have been a really bad date, I got coffee too.

  7. Judge Moore FTW by jlavarj · · Score: 5, Funny

    GM Judge Moore banned Jack Thompson from the Alabama realm of the controversial MMORPG "Reality" today. The game "Reality" allows players to engage in such controversial activities as genocide, murder, theft, and mis-representation.

    1. Re:Judge Moore FTW by PunkOfLinux · · Score: 2, Funny

      however, it also allows (and encourages, to an extent) being nice!

  8. Don'cha come back no more... by Hobbes897 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Leave it to Jack Thompson to get kicked out of Alabama for improper behavior.

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  9. Advertisement. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I love how while reading about this on the main page, there was a giant GTA banner beside this story.

  10. Judge Moore by alienmole · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article mentions Judge Moore, and this is Alabama. Is this the same Judge Moore that was removed from office for refusing to get rid of his statue of the ten commandments? If so, I say his sanction of Jack Thompson is obviously correct. It takes one (wacko) to know one.

    1. Re:Judge Moore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm afraid not - This one is James Moore, and the other wacko is Roy Moore.

    2. Re:Judge Moore by Otter · · Score: 5, Informative

      That was my first thought, but, no -- this is Fayette County Circuit Judge James Moore, not Supreme Court Chief justice Roy Moore.

    3. Re:Judge Moore by lelitsch · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, Jack got tossed by Fayette County Circuit Judge James Moore. The Ten Commandment case centered around Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore. Roy got removed from office in November 2003 Alabama's judicial ethics panel for his conduct in that case, by the way.

    4. Re:Judge Moore by ProZachar · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's former Chief Justice of Alabama, thank you very much. They threw his ass out a while ago.

  11. Asshattery by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Thompson was effectively thrown off the case for actions "before this Court [that] suggest that he is unable to conduct himself in a manner befitting practice in this state." Furthermore, Moore has referred Thompson's conduct to Disciplinary Commission of the Alabama Bar for "appropriate action."
    That's from the article, but the rest of the Court's statememnt goes on to blast Jack for being an asshat and making wild claims.

    In a prime example of karma, the defense submitted some of Thompson's own press releases to the Court as evidence of why he was unfit.
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    1. Re:Asshattery by southpolesammy · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I'm actually worried about Jack Thompson's mental fitness. As I mentioned in a previous posting a few weeks ago, I think he may very well be a psychopath (not joking here...this is a very big problem). Look at the DSM-IV-TR criteria:

      1. Failure to conform to social norms
      2. Deceitfulness
      3. Impulsivity
      4. Irritability or aggressiveness
      5. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others
      6. Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain steady work or honor financial obligations
      7. Lack of remorse

      Satisfying three or more of these criteria warrants a diagnosis of psychopathy or sociopathy. Jack's in trouble, but until he's looked at, so are we.
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    2. Re:Asshattery by PaganRitual · · Score: 2, Funny

      I visibily out loud sang to a cranked Jump by Van Halen in my car on the way to work this morning, so guess you can mark me down for number 1.

      I'm going to lie and say that I don't fit number 7, so I guess that means you can mark me down for number 2.

      3 is definitely a concern - "ooh, cheap game, *purchase'd*"

      hmm that ALSO affects no. 6 ... "now I have no money to pay off my internet bill"

      My job as an accounting software programmer is slowly killing me, so number 5 looks to be a good one. I may very well drag myself into work when I'm nearly dead and shoot up the place, so that has to further my cause for number 5.

      I don't fit number 7.

      So yeah, I think I've got them all covered. But I'm not a fucking psychopath, and I you even suggest it again, I WILL KILL YOU.

    3. Re:Asshattery by ldspartan · · Score: 3, Informative

      Aww, why you gotta go and do that? Look how many people you've confused with your DSM quoting.

      Look folks, there's a reason psychologists go to school for many, many years and get to prescribe drugs and such. Reading the DSM-IV-TR (or the IV, or the III-R, or the III, etc.) doesn't equip you to make meaningful decisions about anyone's mental health, much less your own.

      Remember kids, undergraduate psych exists for one reason: to give the undergrads something to talk about after class.

      And yes, I have an undergraduate psychology degree :)

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  12. A Judge has revoked your license to practice law.. by Spad · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do you:

    a) Accept their judgement with good grace
    b) Grudgingly accept the judgement but state that you believe it to be in error
    c) Accuse the judge of breaking the law, of being biased against your clients and of generally being incompetant

    If you're Jack Thompson you probably also do d) File a lawsuit against the judge for dismissing you.

  13. He really needs..... by 8127972 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..... a cup of hot coffee to help him calm down.

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  14. Re:for (x=0 xx+1;x++) by Chickenofbristol55 · · Score: 4, Funny

    System.out.print ("and don't you come back... no more... no more... no more... no more.");

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  15. Jack Thompson is a lawyer by typical · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can anyone explain who this guy is?

    I don't think that the parent post is necessarily a troll. If you haven't been following the gaming press or reading Slashdot every day, he's not that hard to be unaware of. My mother certainly doesn't know who he is.

    Jack Thompson is a lawyer who, for one reason or another, has attempted to attack violent games in the media.

    It's actually getting to be very hard to obtain any accurate, netural information on him at all -- so many of the people online play video games and are scared of what they think that he might push through that almost all information is biased -- the Wikipedia article on him is definitely not particularly neutral, and the gaming press dislikes him for obvious reasons.

    Combine that with the fact that the man is a political conservative and a Christian (pretty obvious from his website) and given to rather inaccurate rhetoric, and you basically wind up with every article or online writing about him becoming a flamefest.

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    1. Re:Jack Thompson is a lawyer by Tuross · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Combine that with the fact that the man is a ... Christian (pretty obvious from his website)

      Strange, I didn't realise the definition of a Christian was based solely on the appearance of one's website. But of course, you read it on the internet so it must be true!

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  16. Karma? Stupidity? by WhiteWolf666 · · Score: 2

    Either way: Just desserts.

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  17. As much as we hate Jack-o, I'm surprised... by Cl1mh4224rd · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...that Slashdot didn't jump on this when GameSpot covered it... 4 days ago.

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    1. Re:As much as we hate Jack-o, I'm surprised... by robogymnast · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm surprised that Slashdot didn't jump on this when GameSpot covered it... 4 days ago.

      Yeah, but we are gonna see it twice!

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  18. Jack Thompson replaced by Hunter Thompson by hosecoat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Jack Thompsons incorrigible behavior, his mumbling incoherence, his fishing hats, aviator frames and cigarette holders have cause him to be tossed out of court only to be replaced by Hunter S. Thompson

  19. Re:Woah by wk633 · · Score: 3, Informative
  20. Next up... by SlashAmpersand · · Score: 5, Funny

    Jack Thompson will soon issue a "prize" of $10,000 for somebody to code a game in which Judge Moore is flogged then killed violently. Then he'll tell Judge Moore it was meant as satire.

  21. Can we... by fallen1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    get a link that DOESN'T include frigging flash ads as part of the deal? My system as set up will not continue on to the article itself and, yeah, some of us actually RTFA ;-)

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  22. Re:In related news... what about the CSI episode? by hublan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Was it good, bad?

    Dude. It was CSI. It was bad.

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  23. He ain't one of us by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny
    Combine that with the fact that the man is a political conservative and a Christian

    <baptist class="southern" politics="conservative">
    Just so we're all clear on this, please do not infer that his chosen affiliation with various political or religious groups means those groups want anything to do with him.

    I look forward to the upcoming religious holiday, visiting the church of my youth, and logging some serious GTA:SA time. And while we're at it, the Kansas School Board can kiss my evolved butt.
    </baptist>

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    Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
    1. Re:He ain't one of us by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Here's what your people seem to think

      Who are "my people"? Interestingly, I'd never heard of Agape Press until you mentioned them.

      Again, you have the unwarranted presumption that the words of one group speak for another group only tangentially related. Marilyn Manson is a professed atheist. He's said a lot of goofy things over the years, but I don't feel the need to use his song lyrics to "prove" that all atheists are drug-obsessed nihilists.

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      Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
    2. Re:He ain't one of us by AzureLunatic · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Don't mistake the opinions of the loud members of the group as shown in media for the opinions of the average member of the group.

      Seems that the grandparent poster there thinks he's the mode and the loud assholes waving the Conservative Southern Baptist flag are outliers. Very loud, mediagenic, and obnoxious outliers gaining a lot of attention. This would skew the mean opinion of others about conservative Southern Baptists when the quiet, polite, fun-to-be-around and sane ones don't get media attention because they're just folks and the loud assholes are news.

    3. Re:He ain't one of us by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Membership is by definition subscribing to a particular set of beliefs and values; different beliefs and you become part of another group.

      The core Southern Baptist belief is that asking praying to God in the name of Jesus Christ and asking him to forgive you for the bad things you've done means that you get to spend eternity in his presence after you die. That is one of the main, unarguable tenets - if you don't believe that, then you can't be a member of a Southern Baptist church.

      The Southern Baptist Convention publishes lists of position statements and their basic beliefs. Although they explicitly declare positions in other areas of theological debate, they conspicuously offer no opinion on creation versus evolution.

      Many churchmembers share my opinion: God created the Universe and all life in it, with scientific evidence currently supporting the theories (in the scientific sense) of the Big Bang and evolution, respectively. He made a complex and beautiful world for us, and gave us the intelligence and curiosity to learn how he did it.

      Although certain individual churches or leaders may have expressed opinions on these subjects, it's important to know that the Southern Baptist Convention is more of a coalition than a hierarchy (as opposed to, say, the Roman Catholic Church). To the best of my knowledge, no broadly recognized authority requires adhering to belief in a 6000-year-old planet or "intelligent design".

      I really didn't mean to be so long-winded. In summary, you can be a Southern Baptist in good standing without agreeing with every other Southern Baptist on every single issue. Some shared beliefs are very important to us, but I don't believe that this is one of them.

      As far as violent video games, my personal belief is that they're probably not "solid nourishment" for your mind. A mental diet of GTA:SA is probably no better for your inner self than a physical diet of Pixie Stix would be good for your body. On the other hand, the occasional Pixie Stix is yummy and not likely to hurt you, unless you're genetically predisposed to react poorly to that trigger.

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  24. Re:I think there needs to be a CSI:Miami Episode.. by arkanes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And it was probably the most contrived, ridiculous CSI episode I've ever seen, and thats saying a bit. The guy who "makes the game" - CEO of the company and apparently also the game designer - won't tell them the games storyline, because "it's proprietary"? There's no gamefaqs.com in whatever planet CSI is set on? And the "twist" that the game designer is actually the secret "Wizard" that all the "players" turn their "points" into? Please. And the justification is that it somehow drives sales of his game? Right.

  25. Anybody have a link to the actual decision? by Kelmenson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Been searching all around and all I can find are the one-line summaries. I'd much prefer to hear the judge slapping Thompson around. Anybody have a link?

  26. Re:Let that be a lesson to you by sc0ttyb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Normally I don't reply to AC's, but I'll bite.

    You're right. I don't like him at all, but did you notice I said "neo-con"? Surely you've noticed the theocratic tilt the Republican party has taken. Jack just fits in with this Bible-thumping, alarmist majority, and yes, that angers me. And no, I'm not a Democrat, either, though now even they are starting to pander to religious groups.

    Lesson my ass.

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  27. Re:In related news... what about the CSI episode? by tomstdenis · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was really bad. One line in it [paraphrasing from memory]

    "I'm not like that type [talking about murdering others], I'm not a gamer!"

    It basically played on all the latest buzzwords and press. I know it's supposed to be fictional but they're clearly playing off recent events in the news and the least they could do is not show something as ridiculous as that.

    They might as well have a story line [or a thousand] where some robe wearing muslim is planning to blow up an office complex or something :-)

    Tom

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  28. GO JUDGE! by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You know, while every day we hear more and more reasons why our legal system is broken, its nice to see that this time it is working exactly as it should. I commend this judge for fulfilling his obligation to the State and to the law. Personally, this is just like a friggin soap opera for me.

    Seriously, its like a contest between Jack Thompson, Sony, and the RIAA to see who can bury themselves the fastest while at the same time sustaining the most bullet wounds to their feet.

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  29. Re:I think there needs to be a CSI:Miami Episode.. by Is0m0rph · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Don't forget the CEO also was an arms smuggler for the kids. They jacked a shipment of Mac-10s to supply the kids with weapons. It really was a ridiculous storyline, even for CSI: Miami.

  30. Re:Let that be a lesson to you by Zordak · · Score: 2, Informative
    even they are starting to pander to religious groups.
    Funny thing, that. You are a politician in a country where the vast majority of the people at least casually believe in some kind of God, and you find that you have to pretend that you represent their views if you want them to keep electing you. It's representative government, and it's the worst form of government on Earth, except all the others.
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  31. Re:I think there needs to be a CSI:Miami Episode.. by ceoyoyo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Notice that they didn't blame the game for causing the violence though. It was the scummy game publisher who put the kids up to it as a publicity stunt.

  32. Damn... by david.given · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...given the story title I was hoping for something a little bit more, well, ballistic.

  33. Filet-O-Fish by adisakp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Jack Thompson, his brand of Christianity has as much to do with what they practice at the church down the street as McDonald's McFish sandwich does with the ocean

    I resent that remark! The Filet-O-Fish is my favorite sandwich at McDonalds and is made from real fish. If you buy one, it probably comes out of the a little factory in Gloucester, Ma that also processes Gorton's premium fishsticks. It's a real fish product made here in the USA.

    Besides, you never know what the "church down the street" might be saying. There are quite a few churches which have sermons against violence in video game. One of the biggest churches here in the Chicago burbs had a televised sermon against violence in movies and TV. Ironically, a couple months later they organized a group ticket sale for kids to see "The Passion" which is arguably the bloodiest most violent "snuff" flick I've ever seen (even if it was done in the style of a beautiful Italian art film).

    Anyhow, the funniest thing about this whole Jack Thompson affair from my viewpoint (I work in video games and read TRST reports) is that usually when a game gets a lot of bad press for "ultra-realistic violence", the sales of the game actually go up.

  34. Aha! One mystery solved.. by schon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And even if nothing happens to hiim, at least we now know where another litigious lunatic gets his inspiration from.

  35. I can't help but jump in on this one by AutopsyReport · · Score: 2, Funny
    What's the difference between a Catfish and a Jack Thompson?
    One is a scum-sucking bottom-dweller, and the other is a fish.

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  36. Maybe... by jcr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe the judge bounced his ass out of there so that the trial would be about the plaintiff's case, rather than Jack's agenda?

    Just a thought...

    -jcr

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  37. Re:I think there needs to be a CSI:Miami Episode.. by pclminion · · Score: 3, Informative
    And it was probably the most contrived, ridiculous CSI episode I've ever seen, and thats saying a bit.

    To be fair, last night's episode wasn't any more contrived or ridiculous than any other episode they've made.

    And the "twist" that the game designer is actually the secret "Wizard" that all the "players" turn their "points" into? Please.

    No, the "Wizard" was a college kid who played himself to death. The game designer hired another goon to sell the weapons to the kids. Did you actually pay any attention to the episode?

    Did you notice that the episode was NOT full of moralizing, "These kinds of games are ruining America," etc? The closest it got was one of the characters saying "This is why I stopped playing this game at home." It was just another plot device. The writers of CSI are not out to "get" the video game industry. They are doing what they always do, which is to take current events and spin them into a crappy story line.

    In fact, I think the episode did a slight service to the cause, by portraying the kids as junked-out psychos who took something too far, instead of poor innocents who were corrupted by evil video games. Geez, people get so worked up.

  38. Bible Misread Error. by hackwrench · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The tree is "The tree of the knowlege of Good and Evil", not just the tree of knowlege. Eating from that tree gave a "knowing" that certain things were good and bad. Suicide is not necessarily bad, but we got that knowledge from eating from that tree. Same with nudity, sex outside of marriage, and homosexuality. Fundamentalists keep eating from that tree.

  39. Re:"HOWTO: get a clue" won't help the likes of him by dbIII · · Score: 2, Insightful
    It won't work against invincible hypocracy. Recall that this guy is part of a group called "The Freedom Alliance" - which probably should be called the treason alliance becuase it is led by a guy who used his US government position to sell weapons to a declared enemy of the US to give money to a major drug dealer that was later arrested by US military action.

    He's part of the "no rules for us but strict rules for you" culture that in increasingly spreading - he thinks he should have a right to say anything but others shouldn't.

  40. DSM is not for kids by Fex303 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Look folks, there's a reason psychologists go to school for many, many years and get to prescribe drugs and such. Reading the DSM-IV-TR (or the IV, or the III-R, or the III, etc.) doesn't equip you to make meaningful decisions about anyone's mental health, much less your own.

    As another undergraduate psych major, I'd like to agree with the above post. Cut and pasting bits and pieces from DSM is a bad idea unless people understand what DSM is and how it works.

    From the Wikipedia article: The DSM provides diagnostic categories and criteria for their diagnoses. The proper use of these requires clinical training, knowledge and skills to apply them. Their use by people without this background is likely to lead to an inappropriate application of diagnoses.

    That about sums it up. It's not a layman's document.

    Jack Thompson might well be completely batshit insane, but you can't make a diagnosis based on seeing him on the news and reading a couple of articles.

  41. OT: Golf by 920714 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The point of golf is to acheive the lowest score possible on each hole. +5 would mean that it took 5 more strokes to put the ball in the whole than par which is terrible. In slashdot golf we should also aim for the lowest score like me, I'm quite positive I'll get modded -1, offtopic or not at all which would give me a large stroke advantage over your score.

    You can call me the Jack Nicklaus of Slashdot.

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  42. oh come on by Scudsucker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Remember those lists floated around after Columbine, warning parents and teachers what to look out for in potential school shooters? Things like depression, trouble with authority, stops hanging out with friends they had in grade school...things that every fucking teenager goes through at one point or another. This list is just like that.

  43. Re:godhatesfags.com by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 2

    I remember reading about the good folk at god hates fags. Seems at their core they are a fun loving family who consider it okay to hold noisy protests at the funerals of gays. Seems they believe that gays will burn in hell and they want to make sure that the grieving friends & relatives are aware of this. Lovely bunch.

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