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Piracy Setup Discovered in WV Capitol Building

arakis writes "Someone in West Virginia has apparently spent tens of thousands in state funds to acquire computers and video gear to copy movies and music. From the article: 'Ferguson confirmed Tuesday that his staff found the makeshift audio-video studio amid his widening probe into spending and other abuses at the state General Services Division.' Looks like some employees are getting the axe for everything from purchasing abuse to time fraud."

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  1. Time Fraud? by GuruBuckaroo · · Score: 5, Funny

    What a great phrase! Makes me nostalgic for Doctor Who...

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    1. Re:Time Fraud? by rbochan · · Score: 2, Funny

      After I RTFA, I was very sad.

      I was soooooooo hoping that this was in Orrin Hatch's office or something...

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    2. Re:Time Fraud? by rwven · · Score: 3, Funny

      I was thinking something like:

      And they found movies that were rated AAARRRRRHHHHH!!!

    3. Re:Time Fraud? by joincamp · · Score: 4, Funny

      Time Fraud is a real thing. It isn't a joke. It's when you're paid to do one job but you do something else. Like when you hire a lawyer to work a case for you, and they are charging you hours while they are actually doing something else.

      you mean like we are all doing right now at work? oh crap!

    4. Re:Time Fraud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why would a US Senator from Utah have an office in the West Virginia state capitol?

  2. Oh, no! by PornMaster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    14GB of MP3s? I'd bet that one in three Slashdotters has at least that much. Anyone know what the "crack the headers" bit refers to for CDs?

    1. Re:Oh, no! by tulmad · · Score: 5, Informative

      Anyone know what the "crack the headers" bit refers to for CDs?

      It means "I'm a journalist and really have no clue what I'm talking about, so I'll make up words that sound dramatic".

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    2. Re:Oh, no! by rylin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sharpies.
      Lots of them.

    3. Re:Oh, no! by omeomi · · Score: 4, Informative

      Anyone know what the "crack the headers" bit refers to for CDs?

      It means "I'm a journalist and really have no clue what I'm talking about, so I'll make up words that sound dramatic".


      Actually, the author of the article never refers to "cracking" the headers of CDs. The article states "software 'commonly used to crack header codes on copyrighted materials such as movies and music to allow duplication,' Schafer's memo said.". Regular redbook audio CDs don't have any sort of DRM to crack, but many DVDs do, and so do DRM'd music tracks downloaded from services such as iTunes or Napster. So, while it may certainly be true that many journalists don't know what they're talking about, this journalist has said nothing incorrect with respect to cracking.

    4. Re:Oh, no! by Stan+Vassilev · · Score: 4, Funny

      "14GB of MP3s? I'd bet that one in three Slashdotters has at least that much."

      When translated from DontSueMe to English this goes like: "14GB of MP3s? I have at least as much." ;)

    5. Re:Oh, no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So you can make perfect digital copy, if you so choose. But the MPAA has decided to prohibit you from making a degraded digital -> analog copy.

      Is it just me, or is that ass-backwards?

    6. Re: Oh, no! by Baricom · · Score: 2, Informative

      Additionally, the reporter was quoting a memo written by a third party verbatim. In that context, the statement seems perfectly reasonable to me.

    7. Re:Oh, no! by Mad+Marlin · · Score: 2, Funny

      I most certainly don't have a 300GB hard drive full of nothing but music and movies ... not at all ...

  3. MPAA/RIAA vs Feds by pvt_medic · · Score: 2, Funny

    so the question is will the MPAA and RIAA go after the state government? Will the state turn the individuals responsible over to these private companies.

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  4. Obviously, they were fighting terrorism by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 5, Funny

    We know that the MPAA has claimed that buying pirated movies supports terrorism.

    Therefore, these proud patroits in West Virginia (death to all tyrants!) were simply providing a means for Americans to purchase pirated movies without supporting Al Queada (or however they spell thier name). After all, we've learned that breaking the law is perfectly legal as long as you put the words "fighting the war on terrorism" in front of it.

    Now, if we can just get them to take care of that whole "get money from oil revenues to finance terrorism" thing, and we've got it licked!

    1. Re:Obviously, they were fighting terrorism by luguvalium2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      get your mottos straight:

      West Virginia: Montani semper liberi - Mountaineers are always free
      Virginia: Sic semper tyrannis - Thus always to tyrants (meaning death from the slain king in the state seal)

    2. Re:Obviously, they were fighting terrorism by Sanat · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The Clawson family who lives in that area have brothers and sisters who were born in Pennsyvania, Virginia, and West Virginia and all were born in the same house.

      The state lines just kept shifting for a time back then so although the house did not move the residing state at the time did. I imagine it was kind of a tricky situation keeping track of those changes come census time with a house full of kids being born in different states from each other and their parents.

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    3. Re:Obviously, they were fighting terrorism by anothy · · Score: 2, Funny

      True story:
      I lived in London for a little over a year. Towards the beginning of my stay, I was the butt of quite a few "dumb american" jokes. That's okay, I was a good sport; besides, most of what they were saying was both true and funny, so whatever. But the following, about two months into my stay, is when i realized the British are the only people on the planet more blissfully, ignorantly parochial than Americans.

      On a whim, a co-worker asked me in front of about a half dozen or so others, how many states there are in the US. I laughed, responded 50, and turned to go back to work. And then the fun started.
      "Ah! He doesn't even know how many states there are!"
      Beg your pardon? We had to look it up online to convince them that there were, in fact, 50 states, not 52 as half those in attendance were claiming (the other half abstained from the discussion).

      Once that was settled, the conversation moved on to defense and justification: "Well, you don't know how many counties there are in England!" That's right, I don't. But if you were to tell me there were, say, 17, I'd believe you. 'Cause it's your friggin' country! Never mind the fact that counties are much smaller than states, about the size and power of counties in most US states. But my favorite was the ending of the argument:

      "Okay, so which two don't you consider states?"

      For a good time, try to get a brit to explain to you the relationship between Great Britain, the United Kingdom, and England, or ask them which one issues their passport. Good times all around.

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  5. Obviously not the brightest bulbs in the pack. by AltGrendel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You think they would have figured out how to get the equipment off-site.

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    1. Re:Obviously not the brightest bulbs in the pack. by Rifter13 · · Score: 3, Funny

      They problably just assumed no one else knew what to do with a PC, so it was safe. :-)

  6. Heh by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    "Capitol Records"

    Thank you, I'll be here all week.

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  7. INCOMING by heauxmeaux · · Score: 2, Funny

    27585 27585 17199 17199 88345 88345 80753 80753 34404 34404
    58442 58442 71825 71825 43587 43587 07411 07411 66063 66063
    60332 60332 55898 55898 32544 32544 14840 14840 01840 01840
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    Line 3 needs more cowbell.


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  8. "Studio"? I think not. by Kayamon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pff... That's not a audio/video studio... that's just a guy downloading and burning some DivX movies.

    I think "tens of thousands in state funds" is possibly a bit of an exaggeration.

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  9. doesn't help the image of public employees by Brigadier · · Score: 2, Interesting


    This suffice it to say reinforces the image of public sector workers abusing their state privaliges. I remember an interview with Wanda Sykes where she talked about her other job at her job while working at the state. I am a very strong supporter of teh privitization of many Government agencies. I'm sick and tired of seeing my tax dollars being wasted by over payed gum chewing counter people who have no clue.

    1. Re:doesn't help the image of public employees by Eightyford · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This suffice it to say reinforces the image of public sector workers abusing their state privaliges. I remember an interview with Wanda Sykes where she talked about her other job at her job while working at the state. I am a very strong supporter of teh privitization of many Government agencies. I'm sick and tired of seeing my tax dollars being wasted by over payed gum chewing counter people who have no clue.

      Yeah, like private sector employees any more competent; and the CEOs are obviously less corrupt than the heads of these organizations. Lets just have Haliburton run the Armed Forces, and Citibank run the US Mint.

    2. Re:doesn't help the image of public employees by teece · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I am a very strong supporter of teh privitization of many Government agencies. I'm sick and tired of seeing my tax dollars being wasted by over payed gum chewing counter people who have no clue.

      What a brilliant idea! Then you'll have all of the waste, fraud and corruption, and none of the oversight!

      Simply brilliant!

      *rolls eyes"

      Having worked in corporate America for many years, let me assure you that such spending abuses are quite common there, too. Probably much, much more common, given that the process is generally very opaque in corporate America. If the boss doesn't care, there will be no audit. When the boss is *in on it,* mention of an audit will get you fired. Such problems, while still existent, are less pronounced in the public sector. And the public sector is subject to a form of scrutiny that is generally impossible in the private sector.

      At *best* such privatization would add overhead and gain you nothing. At worst (and most likely) it'd turn government into a craven mess of bribery and kickbacks, reduce services, and give you a less effective government at a higher price, to boot.

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  10. I bet the CIO/IS Director is a MBA by Kylere · · Score: 5, Funny

    1. Take one college educated idiot (Usually a MBA)
    2. Place in charge of a group of geeks who actually know their jobs
    3. Pay Fines!

    1. Re:I bet the CIO/IS Director is a MBA by m93 · · Score: 2, Funny

      As one of those geeks under him; I say you are correct!

    2. Re:I bet the CIO/IS Director is a MBA by Kylere · · Score: 2, Insightful

      WRONG! The difference is that I do not think my degree makes me a genius.

    3. Re:I bet the CIO/IS Director is a MBA by Kylere · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I fought it, because the people issuing the fines will be the government, and the people paying the fines will be the government, and erm umm, doh! 4. THE LAWYERS PROFIT

  11. Look on the bright side by thaerin · · Score: 2, Funny

    his staff found the makeshift audio-video studio amid his widening probe into spending and other abuses at the state General Services Division.

    Look on the bright side, maybe the person(s) behind the purchases were filming some amateur porn and the state can sue their earnings to recoup some extra cash.

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  12. Did Anyone Check The Content? by Black-Man · · Score: 5, Funny

    Was it gigabytes of "Take Me Home Country Roads" on mp3 and the movie "Deliverence"?

  13. 21st Century underground by digitaldc · · Score: 3, Funny

    "As we continue to peel back the onion, every time we turn a corner we find something else that doesn't look right," Ferguson said.

    And I remember when covertly distilling Moonshine was a problem!

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    1. Re:21st Century underground by Elvis+Parsley · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm just wondering where they're finding onions with corners.

  14. "Motion video?" by nathan+s · · Score: 2, Funny

    From the article: "...one hard drive contained approximately 40 full-length motion videos..."

    As opposed to what? Videos of still images? Someone sitting there with a photo album and a camcorder, I guess...goes to show you what people will do when they don't have a scanner...

  15. Fired for overtime! by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ferguson recently fired two division staffers, Gary McClanahan and Gary Bryant, after they claimed they had worked 18-hour days 119 times over the course of 2 1/2 years. Ferguson said a $466, 24-inch flat-screen computer monitor was found in Bryant's office but that no evidence suggests either man orchestrated the computer purchases.

    Sometimes, an 18hour work day is exactly that.
    Some places allow practically all the overtime you can log - simply because its cheaper to let you work greater hours than to hire/train somebody up to your role.

    Firing them because they were hard workers is wrong.
    Firing them because they made fraudulant claims is right.

    (they do sound like the BOFH and PFY though don't they)

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    1. Re:Fired for overtime! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I once met a group of government IT workers who, by applying the union rules, were able to stretch their hours considerably. It had something to do with the fact that the minimum claimable overtime period was 4 hours, but they were permitted to claim overtime even if they only worked 15 minutes. So by staying 15 minutes past the end of the day, they were able (were required to, in fact) to claim an additional 4 hours of overtime.

      This group was actually working hard, and doing legitimate 12 hour days, but by doing strategic 15 minute increments they were all able to charge 24 hours a day. This lasted for about a 2 week period.

      They appeared to be quite proud of themselves.

  16. Square onions by SchrodingersRoot · · Score: 2, Funny

    "As we continue to peel back the onion, every time we turn a corner we find something else that doesn't look right," Ferguson said.

    I didn't know onions had corners. But you can bet that onions with corners wouldn't look right.

    On another note, hahahahahahaha. Awesome.^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H--I mean...how awful.

    Only 40 movies and 3,500 mp3s?
    Whatcha wanna bet that the gear that hasn't been located yet has a lot more? And a nice CD and DVD archive nearby?

  17. Could be done cheaper.... by slashname3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The government always over spends. The whole operation could be done much cheaper. Most readers on /. probably have the equipment to rip and burn cd/DVDs and have not spent as much as they claim to have spent.

    But maybe they are using numbers provided by RIAA or MPAA. Those always seem to be inflated.

  18. Gotta love that headline. by plasmacutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are we back into the days of yellow journalism here?

    tens of thousands in "piracy equipment"? "computers and video gear"?!

    last time i checked my 3 towers and 9 hard disks didn't cost tens of thousands (and two of them are macs!)

    piracy setup? come on now! a tower with dvd decryptor and a couple hundred gigs of avis and mp3's is now a vast piracy setup. that's funny. If this is the headline for such a pitifully small collection, i wander if the headline for the arrest of someone on my res hall would read "international organized piracy syndicate taken down".

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    1. Re:Gotta love that headline. by kimvette · · Score: 5, Informative

      {
      last time i checked my 3 towers and 9 hard disks didn't cost tens of thousands (and two of them are macs!)
      }

      You didn't buy them from state-approved vendors who are on the official bidding lists.

      State bidding lists work like this: when the contract is about to end, the state invites vendors to bid (more actually they obfuscate the process to make it more difficult to newcomers to get in on the process, so the system is weighted toward favored vendors), in a superficial effort to meet state law in controlling budgets.

      In reality, the bidding process is made as difficult as humanly possible. The regulatiosn are hard to find, each responsible person tells you to call someone else, and the folks who succeed in getting in on it invariably are the ones who wine and dine the officials.

      ANYWAY the bidding process usually gives you two optios:

        - bid cost + percentage (which practically no one does because it would reveal the markup)
        - bid MSRP/List Price minus a percentage (and as you know on most products list price may be as low as 30% over cost, or as much as 300% to 400% over cost on average for different products and brands)

      Once you win the contract, you now have the "right" to sell directly to state and municipal agencies, completely bypassing any further bidding processes. This is intended to reduce the budget by being able to plan cost of operations up front, and to eliminate paperwork and delays introduced by conventional bidding processes. Unfortunately it's all to common for vendors to get in on the list bidding a PITTANCE of a discount (example: Dell, 2% off of list price, which is an inflated work of fiction) knowing that the process to get IN on the bidding is painful at best.

      Even worse, the lowest bid does NOT always win on the bid lists (this goes for both state and GSA lists) and in fact the officials/agencies overseeing the bidding process can choose to ignore the bids and pick whomever the heck they want to win. They can cite support reasons (Yeah. Dell support is just WONDERFUL compared to local Dell vendors), size of the company, or any other contrived reason that sounds remotely plausible.

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    2. Re:Gotta love that headline. by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > ...i wander if the headline for the arrest of someone on my res
      > hall would read "international organized piracy syndicate taken
      > down".

      Yes, of course it would, and if anyone in the building is from the Middle East there would be allegations that the operation was "financing terrorism".

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  19. The Hand in the Face by Jim+in+Buffalo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think that this case underscores how little government bureaucrats understand about the technology being used in their own buildings right under their very noses. Far too often when someone tries to bring a technical matter to the attention of someone with the authority to do something about it, they get The Hand in the Face... 'uhp, uhp, uhp, I don't want to hear about it... if it's not about a massive campaign contribution I don't want to know.' Well, when the suits from the media companies come knocking, well, The Hand in the Face tactic isn't going to work.

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  20. The RIAA Could Sue by Saint37 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The RIAA's argument is that a computer owner should know what their children or other users are doing with their computers and are thus responsible for any piracy that occurs using said computer. By this same logic the RIAA could sue the State of West Virginaia, but of course, the RIAA wouldn't do that. They only go after individuals.

    http://www.stockmarketgarden.com/

    1. Re:The RIAA Could Sue by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Informative

      The state has sovereign immunity.

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  21. Piracy in the workplace is common by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ask anyone in tech support who has had to work in a bloated bureaucratic building overpopulated with secretaries. My favorite encounter was cleaning a couple thousand pieces of spyware off some secretary's computer. While I was doing that, she and another secretary were copying DVD movies on their computers, as well as their boss's computer. Apparently the boss was gone for the day. So basically, I was helping her burn DVDs faster.

    Thank you Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine.

  22. They did by Daath · · Score: 2, Informative

    From TFA: "Not all the purchased computers and gear can be located, Ferguson said."

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  23. Overstated? by rnelsonee · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The review found that someone in General Services sidestepped state purchasing rules to buy more than $88,000 worth of computers and related equipment over the last three years, including the items discovered in the basement office. Not all the purchased computers and gear can be located, Ferguson said.

    Is it possible that most of that $88K went to legit computer purchases? 40 movies, 3,500 MP3s, and oh-so-common DeCSS software is all easily fit into one normal PC. And hundreds of blank DVDs/CDs isn't all that much - it's $100 worth of merchandise found on newegg. Sure, this guy was copying movies, but wouldn't bet that this is one of those "zero patient" cases.

    1. Re:Overstated? by Unordained · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Waste, fraud, corruption -- they don't always happen in lump sums. So admittedly, we can't expect every find (nor very many of them) to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars. But considering how much it probably cost them to just run the audit, and compared to the general budget, I'd have to guess this wasn't that great of a find (in terms of ROI and/or % originally wasted.) Yes, it's naughty, yes, it's great to find it ... but ... just considering I've watched local government workers use grants for bio-terrorism to purchase themselves PDA's and laptops because they wanted them (not really bothering to justify the purchases) ... or how often they just sit up there and play games and rip music in the sheriff's department (they're bored!) ... *sigh* ... or the time wasted by employees reading/writing slashdot while at work ... $88k? bah.

  24. some employees are getting the axe by timster121 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, what are they getting axed?

  25. The $25,000 question by Guppy06 · · Score: 2

    How many Slashdotters actually know what the capital of West Virginia is without having to look it up?

    1. Re:The $25,000 question by mopslik · · Score: 5, Funny

      There are two capitals in West Virginia: "W" and "V".

    2. Re:The $25,000 question by ares284 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I do. Charleston. I happen to live there, you insensitive clod! :-P

      And my old man happens to work at the Capitol building as well. And yeah, from what I hear, everyone involved was definitely axed.

      -Ares

  26. Best use of government funds by bobcat7677 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...I have heard in a long time!

  27. Misleading headlines... by happyfish · · Score: 5, Informative

    The real issue here is not that someone had 14GB of mp3s or 40 movies; that simply makes for a better headline. The real issue is that someone in the capital was abusing the purchasing system and bilking the state for all they could. Buying barebones PCs on one purchase and then purchasing the remaining components on a separate order is a big no-no. It means that the PCs appear to be far less expensive, and exempts them from inventory control systems. The purchases basically fly under the radar, and the goods could be anywhere now; some other office, somebody's house, or sold on eBay.

  28. Go for a drive sometime. by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    a tower with dvd decryptor and a couple hundred gigs of avis and mp3's is now a vast piracy setup. that's funny.

    You've never actually been on a drive through West Virginia, have you? Mind you, it's beautiful (the part that isn't up on blocks). For a state that's got a lot of territory just a short drive from the nation's capital, it's a funny mix of demographics. But yes, a rig set up (however modestly) to crank out physical copies of pirated media probably is a big deal to a lot of the locals.

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  29. OT: Sig reply by Kiaser+Zohsay · · Score: 2, Funny

    If big boobed women work at Hooters do one legged women work at IHOP?

    There is an IHOP in Gastonia, NC that is located on Cox Road. Urban legend has is that they used to answer the phone "IHOP on Cox". Say it out loud for the full effect.

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  30. "Piracy" by Bobke · · Score: 2, Interesting

    /. should know better than to use the word "piracy". It is a demonisation term.

  31. My will is too weak to avoid the obvious joke... by Nephilium · · Score: 2, Funny

    The capital of West Virigina? Probably about $25...

    Nephilium

  32. Ask Slashdot by mjpaci · · Score: 5, Funny

    {jesting}"I have access to almost unlimited funds through a closed-source purchasing system. I have identified a number of holes in the system that would allow me to syphon off funds to purchase a "pirate studio" and install it in the basement of the capitol building. Since I'd rather not pay the Microsoft tax, could you recommend a "free" (as in beer) solution for my embezzlement?"

  33. Reminds me of a call to Infocus by QuantumRiff · · Score: 4, Informative

    I am a government employee. (work at a small college). Had a broken Digital Projector. Called them up, described the problem, was told that $PART was broken, and it would be $2400 to fix. I kind of went silent for a few minutes, and pointed out that their new projectors of the same Lumens cost $1500. Do customers really do this? His response was that sometimes, especially with government accounts, there is no budget for new equipment, but money in the repair budget. I remember saying, "So instead of spending $1500 on a new projector with a warranty, they spend $2400 on repairing a 3 year old projector? Don't you feel good about where your tax dollars are going?" I have seen this far too many times in government. Rules are so strict and rigid (often because of abuses) that it is easier to spend twice as much money than to get approval to move the amount from one budget account to another..

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    1. Re:Reminds me of a call to Infocus by jedidiah · · Score: 2

      Take that righteous indignation. Now spread it around about.

      These sorts of beaurocratic shenanigans aren't merely limited to governments. They occur WHEN EVER any organization becomes large enough that a single leader can't just walk around and get a handle on everything.

      Your description of the small college could easily have been the last retailer I worked for.

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  34. Legal advice by yEvb0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    My boss bought himself a 30-inch monitor (for way more than $466), but he's salaried. Should I tell him to be careful? ;)

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  35. Almost a WHOLE iPod Video!!! by valhallaprime · · Score: 3, Insightful

    40 Movies and 14 Gigs of Mp3s? You would almost need a WHOLE ipod Video just to hold all that stuff! And what IT worker has 14 gigs at his disposal?

    Sheesh, next he'll want more than 640KB of RAM.

    Hundreds of blank DVD's? Oh wow, that's absolutely insane, considering they only sell them in spools of 50-100. I mean, i wouldn't even know where to put 2 or 3 WHOLE spools of DVD'rs, let alone hide them from satellite imagery.

  36. Arrgghh! Pirates in W.VA? WTF? by rts008 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Being landlocked, I doubt W.VA has a pirate problem to speak of.
    Now, here is some info on REAL pirates and piracy:
    "Modern Pirates Thrive on Global Trade" (http://globalization.about.com/library/weekly/aa0 31203a.htm)
    "Pirate attacks against ships increase, ICC report finds" (http://globalization.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite .htm?site=http://www.iccwbo.org/home/news_archives /2002/stories/piracy%2520report%2520Oct2002.asp)
    and last but not least:
    "Weekly Piracy Report" (http://globalization.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite .htm?site=http://www.iccwbo.org/ccs/imb_piracy/wee kly_piracy_report.asp)

    Now, enough FUD about piracy!

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  37. Re:I seriously doubt it by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Carrot and the Stick.

    RIAA: "See the nice juicy carrot, you know you want the carrot"
    Congress: "Mmmmmm, carrot"
    RIAA: "Now we want you to pass a law making it legal for our representatives to hunt iPod users, because piracy supports terrorism, and all iPod users are pirates."
    Congress: "Welll, I don't know...there are a lot of iPods out there..."
    RIAA: "This is a stick. This is what you get when you don't get the carrot. Wouldn't you rather have the carrot?"
    Congress: "Well, yea, but we can't just..."
    RIAA: "BAD CONGRESS! *WHACK* *WHACK* *WHACK* BAD LEGISLATORS MAKE THE BABY JESUS CRY! *WHACK* *WHACK*"
    Congress: "Owwwww...okay, okay"

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    ad logicam Claiming a proposition is false because it was presented as the conclusion of a fallacious argument.
  38. Re:Even if one assumes no corruption... by Corvaith · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And the license bureaus are a model of business efficiency? They're not. Government contractors? Known for fleecing the government whenever possible. As long as they're only semi-private and therefore not open-market profit-driven, they're going to be like that. It's the profit drive that makes business efficient and tends to weed out corruption and waste. Not all of it, even then, but yes, it does better than government. It can't do that if there's no money in doing what they're doing.

  39. Small operation by fatboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Specifically, one hard drive contained approximately 40 full-length motion videos," state Chief Technology Officer Kyle Schafer said in the Jan. 5 memo to Administration Secretary Robert Ferguson. "Two other hard drives contained over 3,500 MP3 music files consuming more than 14 [gigabytes] of hard drive space."

    That sounds more like my iPod than a big time piracy operation.

    Still, I hope they fire them all.

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    --fatboy
  40. Insults by ThurstonMoore · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why do so many of you feel the need to insult West Virginia? The majority of you have never even been here. You know nothing about us.