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20 Titles At Revolution Launch

Posted by ryuzaki0 on from the just-a-lot-of-hand-waving dept.

Next Generation reports that NOA's George Harrison expects there to be 20 titles for the system at the Revolution launch. From the article: "The other thing we recognized is that you really make your reputation in the first year ... You've got to deliver software, not just at launch, but you've got to deliver software in the first six to nine months after launch. It has to be solid software. In GameCube, we didn't have that, we had kind of a drought for six months after it launched. By that time your reputation starts to solidify and it's hard to reverse that after awhile."

78 comments

  1. That's nice by Silent+sound · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But it's quality, not quantity. The XBox 360 had about 26 titles or something, but most of them were ports and crappy generic EA sports games. That won't cut it on the Revolution, especially because I don't think Nintendo has that much of the sports games fan market. We will have to wait to see how many of these 20 titles are "for real" and how many are, shovelware.

    1. Re:That's nice by be-fan · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I hate the "quality not quantity" mantra. That's the main reason why post-SNES Nintendo game libraries have sucked so hard. It totally eliminates the variety of titles that make a system worth owning.

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    2. Re:That's nice by rehtonAesoohC · · Score: 1

      Yeah well, I don't know about you, but I'd rather have one game that blew me away than one hundred games that were all different, yet sucked.

      And besides, when has Nintendo ever been known to release titles that weren't varied? Nintendogs? Super Smash Bros? Mariokart? Super Mario 64? Katamari Damacy? I'd say that small example of games shows quite a variety of titles, wouldn't you?

    3. Re:That's nice by sm4kxd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You know that Katamari Damacy was created by Namco, and has only graced Sony platforms, and that neither of these entities is in any way Nintendo, right?

    4. Re:That's nice by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...And how many of them will be tweaked versions of old games on the Virtual Console.

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    5. Re:That's nice by MikeBabcock · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well said.

      I've said it before and I'll say it again, nobody's forcing anyone to buy those crappy games that come out alongside or in between the good ones.

      For example, I'd dare say the PS2 has more "excellent" games than the XBox. Not just more games (that's indisputable) but more "excellent" rated games (according to actual players). Besides, I love that I can find the niche games I enjoy for the PS2 and my friends can play their sports games on their PS2s and we're both happy.

      If you like the games available on another platform, enjoy them. However, a huge library with a lot of variety is an excellent goal -- especially since console makers make most of their money from the licensing, not the console itself.

      I think there's at least 20 games still on my "definately want to play" list for the PS2 that I haven't got to yet.

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    6. Re:That's nice by Headcase88 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      1. Only "one third" (seven) will by made by Nintendo. RTFA.
      2. You listed Mario RPG twice, though you're actually accurate since there are two such franchises: Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi. Both franchises have a spotless record.
      3. It's "Wario World", and there's only been one. And while it was good (for a rental), it certainly sucked compared to most Treasure developed games.
      4. Almost every (real) franchise you listed has been critically acclaimed at one point or another, and some of them (Zelda, Mario, Mario Golf/Tennis, Metriod (sic) Prime) are totally outstanding. Well apparently some people didn't like Sunshine, but I'm still listing Mario platformers as having an outstanding record.
      5. To imply that the Revo is going to be the only console that will have sequels is pretty questionable.

      My bets for the 7 launch "window" titles are: Smash, Mario 128, Pennant Chase Baseball, WarioWare (fingers crossed), Metroid Prime 3, hmmmm. Can't guess the other two. But they'll be delayed anyways ;). And I'm hoping for Mario Party 8 as one of the 20. It wouldn't be one of the 7 because Nintendo doesn't make it.
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    7. Re:That's nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorta like the only games worth buying on xbox360 are oblivion, kameo, and geometry wars? Oh wait, one of them you don't even have to buy..

    8. Re:That's nice by rehtonAesoohC · · Score: 1

      Katamari is rumored to be coming out for the Nintendo DS. Rumor isn't certain, but still, it's possible. :)

    9. Re:That's nice by Ewan · · Score: 1

      Certainly not by the original creator, he's repeatedly stated he's not touching it again. It's a shame, but it's true.

    10. Re:That's nice by Chemical · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, with the Revo's motion sensitive controller I feel it would be perfect for sports games. A baseball game where you swing the bat rather than press a button would be tremendously fun. A football game where you pass by making an overhand throwing motion towards the intended reciever would be much more interesting than pressing a button. A basketball game where you shoot by... well, you get the idea.

    11. Re:That's nice by Retroneous · · Score: 1

      Xbox 360 had 26? Nope! The Xbox 360 had around ten or twelve available at launch.

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    12. Re:That's nice by be-fan · · Score: 1

      I think there's at least 20 games still on my "definately want to play" list for the PS2 that I haven't got to yet.

      Exactly. I don't game much, but I just finished up Xenosaga II over the break. XSII wasn't a AAA game, but I'm a fan of the series and I enjoyed playing it quite a bit. Right now, I'm looking forward to playing some of the Shadow Hearts titles, of which I have two to catch up on before I get to the new one. Games like these don't come out for Nintendo consoles. Its as if everything is either a Kingdom Hearts II (super highly rated AAA title), or a Quest 64 (crap).

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    13. Re:That's nice by be-fan · · Score: 1

      What if that one game that's awesome is in a genre you couldn't care less about? Super Mario 64 is a great platformer, but I hate platformers. Metroid and Zelda are great action-adventure titles, and guess what, I hate action-adventure games. There is no depth in any particular genre in Nintendo's library. You've got maybe a handful of good titles in any genre. Unless you're the kind of person you can pick up any type of game and enjoy playing it, or are the type of person who can play the same game over and over again, you'll quickly run out of stuff to play on a Nintendo console.

      As for variety --- you do realize that out of the five games you mentioned, one isn't a Nintendo game, and the other three feature pretty much the same characters?

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    14. Re:That's nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...Mario 128...

      Stop saying that! None of the next gen consoles are (or need to be) 128 bit. That term was invented by crappy gaming magazines.

    15. Re:That's nice by justchris · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Mario 128 is the working title of the game, and has nothing to do with a bit count. It was a demo that was originally displayed for the gamecube with 128 Marios running & bouncing around on gamecube hardware. Nintendo has, off and on, claimed that Mario 128 was a working title for a game, but have never officially confirmed it's existence. As a result, most of the people who follow such things just refer to the next Mario Platformer as being Mario 128. That will probably not be it's final name, but that doesn't mean it has anything to do with the system being a 128 bit system.

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    16. Re:That's nice by justme8800 · · Score: 0

      And I'm hoping for Mario Party 8 as one of the 20. It wouldn't be one of the 7 because Nintendo doesn't make it.

      If Mario Party isn't made by Nintendo, than neither is Metroid Prime (Retro Studios), Mario Tennis/Golf (Camalot), Super Smash Brothers (HAL), Paper Mario/M&L (Intelligent Systems)... you get the point. I would count Mario Party as a first party game. Or, is this where the term "second party" comes into play?

      Heck, even Pokemon is developed by a seperate dev (Game Freak).

    17. Re:That's nice by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "It's "Wario World", and there's only been one."

      Unless you count "Wario's World" for the Virtual Boy.

    18. Re:That's nice by scot4875 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, Hudson develops Mario Party, but I don't think that they're a subsidiary of Nintendo, so they're sort of a 2.5th party title. I think Camalot is in this same category. HAL and Intelligent Systems are both names of internal teams within Nintendo, so they're both first party. Retro Studios is a wholly-owned subsidiary, so they're a 2nd party.

      But yes, that's where 2nd party games come into play. Technically, you'd call any game developed for Nintendo by someone else, and published by Nintendo as a 2nd party game.

      Not that any of it matters as long as the games are good -- and the overwhelming majority are.

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    19. Re:That's nice by remmy1978 · · Score: 2, Funny

      One thing I never saw mentioned, and which I am curious about... what if the controller flies out of your sweaty hands while swinging that bat? I wonder how many broken tv's, windows, or fish bowls will result from this and how long it'll be till someone sues Nintendo after being accidentally thrown a controller at their head.

    20. Re:That's nice by Chemical · · Score: 1
      I honestly can't see that happening. The controller is made of plastic. It probably weighs less than your average TV remote. You'd have to throw it pretty damn hard to break a TV. The controller would probably break first. Also if you're swinging it like a baseball bat and it slipped, it would likely fly away from the TV.

      Also, I've thrown plenty of controllers in my day out of frustration. Haven't broken anything yet, including the controller.

    21. Re:That's nice by Goose+In+Orbit · · Score: 1

      You missed out at least two Pokémon variants... ;^D

      (hmmm... when will the Mario/Pikachu crossover happen I wonder...?)

    22. Re:That's nice by some+guy+on+slashdot · · Score: 1

      They call it "Mario 128" because it's the next one after Mario 64 (ha ha). So really, Super Mario Sunshine was Mario 128. Some people don't believe that Sunshine was a "true" successor to Mario 64, and so they call the next upcoming game "Mario 128." There was also a "Mario 128" challenge level in Super Smash Brothers: Melee where you fight 128 tiny Marios, which may have been how this term got into general use.

      I also heard a rumor that "Mario 128" was the original codename for Pikmin, the original game being built with tiny Marios in place of the Pikmin (well, they do sound a bit like Mario). The justification for this was that you could have 100 Pikmin on the field at once, which was "close" to 128. Dumbest rumor ever.

      On the other hand, I've never heard Nintendo actually refer to "Mario 128" as a working title for anything. All I remember Shiggy saying was that "the next Mario game" was pivotal to the Revolution. Seems like slang to me.

    23. Re:That's nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You definitely have to learn to spell 'definitely'.

    24. Re:That's nice by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 1

      The controller would probably break first.
      One piece of information was missed. This controller, like N's previous ones, is made out of Nintanium. It's like titanium but a bit harder. It won't break :)

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    25. Re:That's nice by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      I'd strongly disagree.

      It'd be nice to always spell correctly when tossing my ideas out on Slashdot, but 'need'? I don't need to be able to spell any specific word correctly in a Slashdot reply, even though I do try.

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  2. summary by Dance_Dance_Karnov · · Score: 0, Troll

    what, no snarky flamebait in the summary? Thats why I come to /. for 3 day old news with editorializing in the article summaries.

  3. 20? phff by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 1

    Give me Super Smash Brothers Revolution at launch and between that and a Twilight Princess that uses the Revremote, I'll be satisfied till March!

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    1. Re:20? phff by Psiven · · Score: 1

      Actually, I'd prefer to wait for a properly implemented Smash Bros. They just started the game last May. I'd hate for it to be imbalanced or broken in some way.

  4. Mario Golf? by corychristison · · Score: 1

    I don't know about anyone else here, but Mario Golf is by far my fave. Nintendo game... hopefully we will see a new version pop out after the Revolution release? :-)

    1. Re:Mario Golf? by realityfighter · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Supposedly, Albatross 18 is going to be a launch title for the Revolution. I don't know how well this game compares with Mario Golf, but I can say that it's taken its fair share of gaming hours from my roommate. Honestly, I came in once and saw him playing Albatross on one box and Oblivion on another. It's an addiction.

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  5. Swords. by Greggen · · Score: 5, Funny

    This means about 20 developers thought "Hmm... that's a cool controller. Wouldn't it be cool if you could use it to swing a sword... or something."

    The games are:

    • Sword Fight
    • Sword Fight 2
    • Flying Swords
    • Zelda: Sword Fight
    • Mario: Sword Jump Super Sword!!!
    • ...
    1. Re:Swords. by radiotyler · · Score: 1

      Sean Connery: Uh.. I'll take "Swords" for $400.

      Alex Trebek: It's actually not "Swords".. these are words that begin with "S". The answer is: "Popeye is this sort of man". [ Reynolds buzzes in ] Burt Reynolds.

      Burt Reynolds: What is.. Popeye?

      Alex Trebek: [ sighs ] No. [ Connery buzzes in ] Sean Connery. And, remember, these are words that begin with the letter "S", not "Swords".

      Sean Connery: [ bangs podium, thinking ] Saber!

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    2. Re:Swords. by PeelBoy · · Score: 1

      That would be pretty sad if so.

      Don't people have imaginations anymore?

      I mean seriously.. Programmers and Gamers thinking there is nothing more to games than what we're doing now or have done in the past?

      Why don't we just give up on the space program, science and math and just concentrate on what we have now?

      sigh

    3. Re:Swords. by miscz · · Score: 1

      don't forget Happy Swords Dance Go Go Go! ...sadly, never released outside Japan :(

    4. Re:Swords. by earthbound+kid · · Score: 1

      It began with the bloody letter S!

  6. Variety by Silent+sound · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Quantity doesn't mean variety, though. For example, let's say a system gets five Madden NFL Football games. This is definitely at least some quantity. But it isn't any variety at all.

    On the other hand, a game library with 20 titles but no variety... well, I don't know what we can say about how much quantity it has, but regardless of the quality of the individual games, that isn't what I'd call a quality launch library. Variety effects quality directly, because most people get bored if they wind up having to play the exact same kind of game over and over.

    And you can't possibly say quality over quantity "[made] the post-SNES game libraries suck so hard", because quality over quantity is absolutely not something that describes the Playstation 2 game library at all...

    1. Re:Variety by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For example, let's say a system gets five Madden NFL Football games.

      Yeah, or 20 Twisted Metal Gear games that are all the same as the last, but with numbers in the title's so you can call them "Sequels"

    2. Re:Variety by be-fan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My point was to compare the PS* libraries to the N64 and Gamecube libraries. With the N64 and beyond, Nintendo's mantra "was quality not quantity". For me, that meant a bunch of highly rated games (the Zelda series, the Mario series and its spin-offs, the Metroid series), that I had zero interest in playing. The PS*'s library is like the SNES's. You like arcade flight simulators? You've got a dozen to choose from. You like Japanese-style RPG? You have several dozen. You like first person shooters? Line them up. Sure, a lot of them are mediocre, and some are just bad, but there are a lot of good ones too, and I'd rather play a mediocre game in a genre I like then a steller game in a genre I don't.

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    3. Re:Variety by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With the N64 and beyond, Nintendo's mantra "was quality not quantity".

      Nintendo's mantra is a code, though. It is code for "Holy crap, we have no third party support! We hope you overlook this if our sporadic output of first-party games is at least really really good! Please don't kill us!"

      Quantity isn't something one single company can create. Quantity requires lots and lots of developers working in tandem. Right now, on consoles, the developers are all on the Playstation. You want Nintendo and quantity at the same time? Get a GBA, its shovelware library rivals even the PS2.

  7. Off by an order of magnitude... by Spaceman40 · · Score: 1

    Actually, the Rev (and the PS3, for that matter) will start with the full library of GameCube games and whatever NES/SNES/N64/Sega/etc. games Nintendo wants to add backwards compatibility for.

    It's an exciting time :)

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    1. Re:Off by an order of magnitude... by Buddy_DoQ · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's just me, but when the rev comes home with me, the first thing I play will not be Mario 3 from the NES. I want the new games that use the new controller! They can keep the classics, well, for the first month or two anyway. 20 titles sound good, better than the Game Cube launch anyway. Especially if they keep the promise of new releases often during the first year.

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    2. Re:Off by an order of magnitude... by Spaceman40 · · Score: 1

      Absolutely! I'm definitely excited about the new controller, but I'm also excited about bringing home four systems (NES/SNES/N64/Rev, don't count the Cube because I already have one) instead of one.

      For the person who's getting the Revolution as their first system, they have loads of games that they might choose from to buy. That's what I was talking about.

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    3. Re:Off by an order of magnitude... by IntergalacticWalrus · · Score: 1

      Absolutely! I'm definitely excited about the new controller, but I'm also excited about bringing home four systems (NES/SNES/N64/Rev, don't count the Cube because I already have one) instead of one.

      Hey you forgot the Genesis and TG16! (no wait, OK maybe you can forget the TG16)

    4. Re:Off by an order of magnitude... by GeekyMike · · Score: 1

      I'm also excited about bringing home SIX systems (NES/SNES/N64/Rev/Sega Genesis/TurboGrafx 16

      fixed that for you, its getting bigger and bigger! I cant wait! WHEE! ***Disclaimer, The last nintendo device I bought was a GameBoy Color and before that SNES, but the Revolution looks so awesome I can't wait*** I also have had WAAAY to much coffee, I can't feel my arm

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    5. Re:Off by an order of magnitude... by oneils · · Score: 1

      I'm not flaming or anything, just actually curious. Where will all those games be saved to? In the game's RAM? Then the save game data is written a usb drive or flash card? Will we have to download the game to the systeme RAM everytime we want to play it? Or, will those be saved to a flash card as well?

    6. Re:Off by an order of magnitude... by oneils · · Score: 1

      Sorry, meant to say "in the system's RAM" and not "in the game's RAM." Also, system is spelled "system" not "systeme."

    7. Re:Off by an order of magnitude... by GeekyMike · · Score: 1

      The Games will be saved to system's flash memory most likely. A half GB sould hold a good many NES games, as with the roms I had were at most 256K. Genesis games are pretty tiny too. I think the roms with the old games would fit nicely. If more space is needed, you could probably hook an external storage device using the Revoulution's USB ports. I would like to end this with a disclaimer that the details for the Revolution will not be released until E3 and likely will be leaked past then. Nintendo is really good at showing just enough to tempt you into paying for the show.

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    8. Re:Off by an order of magnitude... by chrnb · · Score: 0

      The revolution will come with 1 or 2 SD card slots, and usb ports for connection external storage.

      A way better solution than sony and MS's i think.

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  8. OFFICIAL List of the 20 games by MBraynard · · Score: 4, Funny
    Hey,

    I snaked this list off a power point presentation given at a recent conference to investors of the Big N. For just a few seconds we got a look at the long list but they flipped to the next slide to discuss all of the different colors the Revolution would be released in and spent about thirty minutes discussing that. Really odd, I thought.

    Anyway, after the presentation I went up to the machine hosting the presentation and move it onto my USB jump drive. Here is the list of the 20 awesome release games for the REvolution that will surely make it the greatest launch EVER:

    Mario Kart: Revolution!
    Mario Baseball: Revolution!
    Mario Tennis: Revolution!
    Mario Soccer: Revolution!
    Mario Golf: Revolution!
    Super Mario Strikers: Revolution!
    Mario Golf: Revolution!
    Mario Party 7: Revolution!
    Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix 2: Revolution!
    Mario Beach Volleyball: Revolution!
    Mario Versus Capcom Versus SNK: Revolution!
    Paper Mario: Revolution!
    Sunshine Mario: Revolution!
    Paper Sunshine Mario: Revolution!
    Mario Classic Arcade: Revolution!
    Wario Wrestling: Revolution!
    Mario En Espana: Revolutiones!
    Mario Bowling: Revolution!
    Mario World: Revolution!

    I cannot wait for revolution to come out. With a launch lineup like this they are going to annihilate the competition!

    1. Re:OFFICIAL List of the 20 games by Meagermanx · · Score: 1

      Man, I'd buy Wario Wrestling!

    2. Re:OFFICIAL List of the 20 games by twoallbeefpatties · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If every incarnation of Mario Kart, Zelda, and Metroid wasn't worth playing, then I would be offended by that. But if that really was the launch list, then who's to say it wouldn't be worth it?

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    3. Re:OFFICIAL List of the 20 games by Christopher+Rogers · · Score: 1

      Dance Dance Revolution Revolution. Awesome.

    4. Re:OFFICIAL List of the 20 games by sehryan · · Score: 1

      I know you were being sarcastic, but if you RTFA, you would see that it says only one-third of the titles would be Nintendo games, with the rest being third party.

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    5. Re:OFFICIAL List of the 20 games by MBraynard · · Score: 1
      I know you were being sarcastic, but if you RTFA, you would see that it says only one-third of the titles would be Nintendo games, with the rest being third party

      You mean Mario 'Third' Party? I think I have that on the list.

    6. Re:OFFICIAL List of the 20 games by Traxton1 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Man, I cannot wait to play Mario Versus Capcom Versus SNK: Revolution! It'll be a lot nicer throwing fireballs with A instead of quarter-circle forward and punch.

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    7. Re:OFFICIAL List of the 20 games by GeekyMike · · Score: 1

      The sad thing, I would actually play that just to nail Toad with a steel chair

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    8. Re:OFFICIAL List of the 20 games by Rod+Beauvex · · Score: 0

      He said Wario Wrestling not Ballmer wrestling.

    9. Re:OFFICIAL List of the 20 games by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "only one-third of the titles would be Nintendo games, with the rest being third party."

      I've seen 3 or 4 Zelda games so far with Capcom's name on it.

    10. Re:OFFICIAL List of the 20 games by Ailure · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't surprise me if Revolution would be used as game title.

      I mean, how many SNES games have super in it's title and how many N64 games have the suffix 64? ;)

    11. Re:OFFICIAL List of the 20 games by ImaNumber · · Score: 1

      Reading through the list, I could only hope that this would be the linup...I'd buy at least half of these titles (if they existed).

    12. Re:OFFICIAL List of the 20 games by GeekyMike · · Score: 1

      you just think there's a difference, Wario is Ballmer in disquise *Just a theory I'm working out*

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    13. Re:OFFICIAL List of the 20 games by championselector · · Score: 1

      as twoallbeefpatties points out, it's "ha-ha" funny but i'd still be stoked for most of them, too...

      the mario series is still the best platformer grouping of any system so far, and i'll buy a revolution the first day if mario 128 is a launch title. miyamoto's puzzles are genius.

      metroid, zelda, and yes, even the golf series have been well-balanced and consistently fun.

      and mario kart? i enjoyed double dash much more than i expected to (picked it up in a bundled set) and still like playing it.

      games for nintendo systems in general are cartoony, lack "real" physics engines, are colorful to the point of eye-popping, often very silly, and simple to play (when done right). all of these qualities are megaton level ingredients for a fun console, imho.

      roll on revolution...

    14. Re:OFFICIAL List of the 20 games by steveo777 · · Score: 1

      Dude, I'll tag team with you if Toad's partner can be Yoshi. We can body slam that green bastard through a table. (And you think Kirby is hard to knock off in Smash Brothers, this guy can just peddle his legs and jump 5x his hieght? I don't think so..)

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  9. Come on, if you're going to flame do it right..... by Premo_Maggot · · Score: 1

    Super Mario Strikers is a soccer game :P

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  10. About 1/3 of the games will be First Party Titles by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nintendo seems to put out a high ratio of high-quality fun games. If they are putting out a third of the games it wouldn't surprise me if they make as many great games as all the third party developers combined...maybe 4 great Nintendo-made games and 4 great third party games. If it comes out that way, I'd consider it a great signal-to-noise ratio compared to others systems. I don't think most people would spend money for more games than that at launch if they really are great games that don't get dull fast. Then if you add in all the old favorites that are downloadable and you've really got staying power.

  11. After you're dead by tepples · · Score: 1

    Katamari is rumored to be coming out for the Nintendo DS.

    It's been cancelled as a commercial project, and you will die before the elements of the three existing games, all of which are copyrighted, become available for use by homebrew developers.

    1. Re:After you're dead by Crizp · · Score: 1

      You can't copyright the idea of a ball rolling around getting things attached to it. You can trademark the name and copyright the execution - the graphical design, sounds etc, but not the idea itself.

      You can copyright the sequence of words used in a book to tell a story, but not the story itself.

      I believe that's how it works. Perhaps all this is debunked by someone here who knows better than me.

    2. Re:After you're dead by tepples · · Score: 1

      You can trademark the name and copyright the execution - the graphical design, sounds etc, but not the idea itself.

      Sure, homebrew developers could make their own takeoff on Midway's Bubbles, but then it wouldn't be a KATAMARI(tm) brand game, as rehtonAesoohC speculated. And how do you know that there aren't patents involved, in which case it's not after you're dead but still after the DS is dead?

      You can copyright the sequence of words used in a book to tell a story, but not the story itself.

      But you can patent the story itself.

    3. Re:After you're dead by Rydia · · Score: 2, Informative

      As long as it doesn't rely on or copy the other work so much as to be considered a derivative work. Or if the changes that were made were only superficial, purposefully to work around the copyright.

    4. Re:After you're dead by rehtonAesoohC · · Score: 1

      Yes, I did speculate about Katamari specific, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's the name of the game that matters. I was merely pointing out the variability in games for the Nintendo Revolution... Of course, I made a mistake in posting Katamari, but we can dream, can't we? :-)

  12. Mario Party 3 by tepples · · Score: 1

    only one-third of the titles would be Nintendo games, with the rest being third party.

    Third party will likely be available through Virtual Console.

  13. You forgot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ubisoft FPS featuring swordfight duels

  14. Oh, come ON... by meringuoid · · Score: 1
    It'll be a lot nicer throwing fireballs with A instead of quarter-circle forward and punch.

    Yeah. You could probably use a simpler control system, come to think of it...

    (Hint: fireball was B. Press A and you jump.)

    --
    Real Daleks don't climb stairs - they level the building.
  15. Best Proposed Game Ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mario Vs Capcom Vs SNK Revolution would be awesome! Take the streetfighter controls and characters (including SNK), add in all characters from Super Smash Bros.

    So Kool!

  16. Re:About 1/3 of the games will be First Party Titl by Derkec · · Score: 1

    True, but if the estimates of the revolution price are compared to the 360 price, you could get a nice chunk of the crappy games too and still spend less money :)