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Spam King to Sing For Feds?

Vainglorious Coward writes "Infoworld is repeating the rumours that Alan 'spam king' Ralsky has been arrested by the Feds. With the file sealed for 72 hours, the article claims the underworld is abuzz with concern that, faced with enough evidence to put him in jail, Ralsky will squeal on his associates. We should know in the next couple of days whether any of the roaches scurrying for cover are going to get stomped."

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  1. Damn him to hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    In response to Mr. Alan Ralsky's equivocations, I would like to offer the following opposing points. To begin with, the tone of Mr. Ralsky's philippics is eerily reminiscent of that of unrealistic pop psychologists of the late 1940s, in the sense that mercantalism is not merely an attack on our moral fiber. It is also a politically motivated attack on knowledge. We have not only a right but also a responsibility to restore the world back to its original balance. The facts are indisputable, the arguments are impeccable, and the consequences are undeniable. So why does Mr. Ralsky contend that granting him complete control over our lives is as important as breathing air? The answer may surprise you, especially when you consider that he does not tolerate any view that differs from his own. Rather, Mr. Ralsky discredits and discards those people who contradict him along with the ideas that they represent. Imagine people everywhere embracing his claim that children should belong to the state. The idea defies the imagination.

    Isn't it odd that the worst classes of nasty, fastidious perjurers there are, whose hate-filled, huffy lifestyle will transform our whole society to suit Mr. Ralsky's own obtrusive, mingy interests eventually, are immune from censure? Why is that? After days of agonized pondering and reflection, I finally came to the conclusion that from secret-handshake societies meeting at "the usual place" to back-door admissions committees, Mr. Ralsky's followers have always found a way to malign and traduce me. Mr. Ralsky does not want to turn our country into a devious cesspool overrun with scum, disease, and crime because he is fatuitous, illiberal, possession-obsessed, and unregenerate (though, granted, Mr. Ralsky is all of the aforementioned), but rather because if I were to compile a list of Mr. Ralsky's forays into espionage, sabotage, and subversion, it would fill an entire page and perhaps even run over onto the following one. Such a list would surely make every sane person who has passed the age of six realize that everything I've said so far is by way of introduction to the key point I want to make in this letter. My key point is that Mr. Ralsky's squibs can be subtle. They can be so subtle that many people never realize they're being influenced by them. That's why we must proactively notify humanity that Mr. Ralsky's whinges are as predictable as sunrise. Whenever I free people from the spell of adversarialism that Mr. Ralsky has cast over them, his invariant response is to kill the goose bearing the golden egg. Mr. Ralsky's unimaginative, myopic quips replace our natural soul with an artificial one. News of this deviousness must spread like wildfire if we are ever to give you some background information about him. What I take much more seriously than disdainful hackers are mean-spirited peddlers of snake-oil remedies, but what makes matters completely intolerable is knowing that when I say that many obdurate beguilers are taken in by Mr. Ralsky's attestation that university professors must conform their theses and conclusions to his disorganized prejudices if they want to publish papers and advance their careers, this does not, I repeat, does not mean that his mistakes are always someone else's fault. This is a common fallacy held by lazy, garrulous ruffians.

    In Mr. Ralsky's histrionics, mandarinism is witting and unremitting, power-drunk and distasteful. He revels in it, rolls in it, and uses it to shift blame from those who benefit from oppression to those who suffer from it. Mr. Ralsky sees no reason why he shouldn't ridicule, parody, censor, and downgrade opposing ideas. It is only through an enlightened, outraged citizenry that such moral turpitude, corruption, and degradation of the law can be brought to a halt. So, let me enlighten and outrage you by stating that I, speaking as someone who is not a snappish, voyeurism-prone publisher of hate literature, cannot too often emphasize the simple fact that it is sad to see Mr. Ralsky render unspeakable and unthinkable whole categories of bel

    1. Re:Damn him to hell by Phantombrain · · Score: 2, Funny

      Very good! Now that you've learned copy/paste and replacement, lets move on to something called "relavancy"

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    2. Re:Damn him to hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Very good! Now that you've learned copy/paste and replacement, lets move on to something called "relavancy"

      perhaps you need to master the spell checker first

    3. Re:Damn him to hell by Ian+Action · · Score: 1
      I would like to clarify some comments I made recently regarding Mr. Anonymous Coward. I would like to start by discussing Mr. Coward's tactics, mainly because they scare me. The thing I'm the most frightened about is that Mr. Coward keeps saying that governments should have the right to lie to their own subjects or to other governments. Isn't that claim getting a little shopworn? I mean, he has convinced a lot of people that public opinion is a reliable indicator of what's true and what isn't. One must pause in admiration at this triumph of media manipulation. His modes of thought may sound comfortable and simple, but it must not be forgotten that he claims to be supportive of my plan to push the envelope on our knowledge of the world around us. Don't trust him, though; he's a wolf in sheep's clothing. Before you know it, he'll lay the foundation for some serious mischief. Not only that, but Mr. Coward may have access to weapons of mass destruction. Then again, I consider him to be a weapon of mass destruction himself. If anything will free us from the shackles of his beer-guzzling endeavors, it's knowledge of the world as it really is. It's knowledge that as a concerned citizen, I will forge ahead in my brave quest to unmask Mr. Coward's true face and intentions in regard to animalism. That should serve as the final, ultimate, irrefutable proof that he is not just sophomoric. He is unbelievably, astronomically sophomoric.

      Mr. Coward has warned us that eventually, simple-minded lunatics will destroy our culture, our institutions, and our way of life. If you think about it, you'll realize that Mr. Coward's warning is a self-fulfilling prophecy in the sense that Mr. Coward is like a magician who produces a dove in one hand, while the other hand is busy trying to withhold information and disseminate half truths and whole lies. Whatever your age, you now have only one choice. That choice is between a democratic, peace-loving regime that, you hope, may fight for our freedom of speech and, as the alternative, the fork-tongued and exploitative dirigisme currently being forced upon us by Mr. Coward. Choose carefully, because the picture I am presenting need not be confined to Mr. Coward's cock-and-bull stories. It applies to everything he says and does. Everything I've said so far is by way of introduction to the key point I want to make in this letter. My key point is that what he is doing is not an innocent, recreational sort of thing. It is a criminal activity, it is an immoral activity, it is a socially destructive activity, and it is a profoundly crass activity. Aside from the fact that from the very beginning, mindless carpetbaggers have labored to recruit into their ranks the sons and daughters of the powerful, famous, and rich, Mr. Coward commonly appoints ineffective people to important positions. He then ensures that these people stay in those positions because that makes it easy for Mr. Coward to turn once-flourishing neighborhoods into zones of violence, decay, and moral disregard. In summary, it is my prayer that people everywhere will join me in my quest to work beyond the predatory plasticity of Mr. Anonymous Coward's prognoses.

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    4. Re:Damn him to hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I hope you now understand why I say that Mr. Ralsky would love to see college campuses morph into small, ivy-covered North Koreas in which the student or faculty member who dares to deal summarily with scornful freaks quickly finds himself in a heap of legal trouble.

      Unfortunately I don't understand why you say that Mr. Ralsky would love to see colleges morph into small, ivy-covered North Koreans. Perhaps you could go into further depth.

  2. finally... by Beuno · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Finally they stopped chasing petty warez and went after people who actually profit and annoy the hell out of everyone else...

    1. Re:finally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stupid question, but how do spammers actually profit? I mean, don't you actually have to click on a link, and/or purchase Vi@agra or Ru$$ian Prono to generate revenue for them? Do people ACTUALLY do this?

    2. Re:finally... by lokiomega · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, the answer is resoundingly...yes.

    3. Re:finally... by Reverend528 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Yes, because the government exists for the sole purpose of prosecuting those who annoy us.

    4. Re:finally... by XXIstCenturyBoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes. The old and the elderly, the easily convincable, the influencable people. They do not prey on the slashdot tech crowd (although sometime ones wonder), but on people who don't know better. They've been told that one can have good deals online, that you can find anything on there.

      And you have to remember that there is not only porn and penis enlargement offer sent, but low mortgage loan offer, the chance to find a lost friend, travels or even online casinos deals. Poker is a big thing right now, and interests rates very low, its tempting for a lot of people.

    5. Re:finally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always figured it was sort of a Scam The Scammers type of thing, where the spammers sucker poor fools caught up in some sort of stupid pyramid scheme, or maybe are running the scheme themselves.

    6. Re:finally... by pallmall1 · · Score: 1

      So, (hopefully) they finally got the UniSpammer. I wish the feds had been doing more of this instead of investigating Google's search strings, or aiding the persecution of little girls and dead people for suspected copyright violations. He'll get less of a sentence than someone who wants to play an iTunes song on a Creative player.

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      3 things about computers: they're alive, they're self-aware, and they hate your guts.
    7. Re:finally... by ScepticOne · · Score: 5, Funny

      So when is it going to prosecute itself?

    8. Re:finally... by UniverseIsADoughnut · · Score: 1

      Well, it's off to a good start by working it's way through the republican party.

    9. Re:finally... by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Well, there HAS to be a reason why there's a law against harrasment.

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      Justice is the sheep getting arrested while an impartial judge declares the vote void.
    10. Re:finally... by jcr · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's not quite half the job..

      -jcr

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      The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
    11. Re:finally... by tsa · · Score: 1

      I must say I get much less spam since they picked up some big spammers. Getting those people in jail helps a lot. Anyone else have this experience?

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    12. Re:finally... by Tim+C · · Score: 1

      You think they send all those emails for free, out of the goodness of their hearts? You think the lists of "confirmed working" emails are free?

    13. Re:finally... by Basehart · · Score: 1

      I'm noticing less variety for sure.

      Instead of 700 emails trying to sell 600 different items, I now get 400 emails trying to sell me 30 different items.

    14. Re:finally... by moro_666 · · Score: 1

      ofcourse people click on the adds.

      there's a lot of money in that business, that is why they do it. email adre's sell for a quite good price. and it isn't always v!@gr@ that they sell, sometimes it may even look like smth that you really need (or then again ... probably not).

      who would want to waste their time on spamming you for free duh.

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      I'd tell you the chances of this story being a dupe, but you wouldn't like it.
    15. Re:finally... by JulesLt · · Score: 1

      And look who is benefitting (hope it doesn't need a login outside the UK).

      http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-21478 64.html

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    16. Re:finally... by Tim+C · · Score: 1

      Well now, in many ways warez distributors are no different to GPL violators - both take something written by someone else and distribute it in ways that are against the wishes of the original author.

      I'm not saying that they're identical (larger cmomercial warez groups have links with organised crime, for one thing), but morally speaking they're pretty similar.

    17. Re:finally... by crawling_chaos · · Score: 1
      That's not quite half the job.

      Actually, it's over half, unless you have the math skills of a GOP "budget balancer."

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      -- Colonel Adolphus Busch
    18. Re:finally... by jcr · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's over half

      Nope.. Corruption isn't confined to members of the major parties, by any means.

      -jcr

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      The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
    19. Re:finally... by Mistshadow2k4 · · Score: 1

      You'd rather they prosecute only those who break the law and annoy corporations? Because I think it's damn well past time that they prosecute those who break the law and annoy us.

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    20. Re:finally... by jhylkema · · Score: 1

      Who do they make their profits off of? The 50% of people online who are too stupid to be.

    21. Re:finally... by WNight · · Score: 1

      What possible motice could organized crime have for giving away warez? Where's the money?

    22. Re:finally... by crawling_chaos · · Score: 1

      Sorry. The GOP has just over half of Congress, including representatives of these phantom minor parties who lack the discipline to even get elected as dogcatcher. I stand by my statement.

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      -- Colonel Adolphus Busch
    23. Re:finally... by jcr · · Score: 1

      We were talking about the government, not just the congress. The republicans hold just over half the seats in the congress, but the bureaucracy is overwhelmingly populated with democrats.

      -jcr

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    24. Re:finally... by crawling_chaos · · Score: 1
      If you count the military as part of the government, "the bureaucracy" has far more Republicans in it than you would imagine. Sorry. This time the GOP broke it, and they get all of the credit. I extend to them the same degree of forgiveness and understanding they have shown to thers in the past.

      Signed: A Former Republican who is disgusted by the corrupt theocrats that now control the party.

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  3. Mob Justice by amoeba47 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I vote for mob justice. Throw him into a locked room filled with the pissed off masses fed up with too much ludicrous junk mail.

    1. Re:Mob Justice by Phantombrain · · Score: 0

      You mean a man-made Solar Eclipse? Awesome!

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    2. Re:Mob Justice by 9mm+Censor · · Score: 1

      Naw. Put him in a room filled with robots armed with Ak-47s and DEalge's, which are remote controled via a hacked together fiberoptic cables into a linux box system manned with some geekey slashdotters, who are geniuenly pissed about spam.

    3. Re:Mob Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ak-47? deagle? for fucks sake get out of the basement and stop playing counter strike.

    4. Re:Mob Justice by Cheapy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or they could throw him into a cell with Bruno, you got quite a few 'member enlargement' packages that "REALLY WORKED!"

      Bruno could show him just how well they worked... ;)

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    5. Re:Mob Justice by Ninjaesque+One · · Score: 1

      If you're going to suggest old and mostly-defunct(except for militant terrorist organizations, yadda yadda yadda) weapons, I'm going to suggest hanging, drawing and quartering.

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    6. Re:Mob Justice by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Naah, too painless. I'd say wheel him.

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    7. Re:Mob Justice by bhiestand · · Score: 1

      The AK-47 is still the most widely used rifle in the world. Many militaries use it, as well as police and terrorist organizations. It's an extremely rugged, reliable weapon with good accuracy. In many ways I prefer it to the M16. That being said, I think it's in the nation's best interest to publicly shame, humiliate, and torture these [spamming] bastards.

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    8. Re:Mob Justice by Widowwolf · · Score: 1

      Whoa! The ak-47 is old and defunct. I don't think so. They are still one of the best rifles to date as far as Military uses. Over 50 armies of the world still use this weapon in there arsenal. This thing is basically useable after putting it in sand, swamp or dropping it from far heights. They also take standard ammo. .Why do you think terrorist organizations love them, and even US soldiers will pick them up over an m-16 or M4. I think you may have your weapons mixed up. Not only all that but they can use 75 round drum magazines. I mean look at these specs Caliber 7.62x39 mm Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt with 2 lugs Overall length: 870 mm Barrel length: 415 mm Weight, with empty magazine: AK 4.3 kg; AKM 3.14 kg Magazine capacity 30 rounds (40 rounds box magazines and 75 rounds drums from RPK also may be used) Cyclic rate of fire 600 rounds per minute Maximum effective range: about 400 meters As compared to the M4 and M4A1 Caliber: 5.56mm NATO Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt Overall length: 838 mm (stock extended); 757 mm (stock fully collapsed) Barrel length: 370 mm Weight: 2.52 kg without magazine; 3.0 kg with magazine loaded with 30 rounds Rate of fire: 700 - 950 rounds per minute Maximum effective range: 360 meters Rarely do you have to clean, repair or do anything to this rifle to get it to fire accurately. I am sorry but I would trust my life with an AK over a M4 any day!

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    9. Re:Mob Justice by Kagura · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you're confusing the AK-47 with the AK-74? They are hardly the same. :)

    10. Re:Mob Justice by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      "I vote for mob justice. Throw him into a locked room filled with the pissed off masses fed up with too much ludicrous junk mail."

      Those who have purchased viagara and penis enlargment pills may go to the front of the line.

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    11. Re:Mob Justice by bhiestand · · Score: 1

      Nah, I'm not confusing them. I've never seen the actual numbers of how many of each were produced, but there seem to be far more AK-47s in the world, although 74s appear to be more popular in movies. The -74 is a nice weapon, and I'd usually choose it over a -47, but I wouldn't like having a ton of -47s pointed at me from 50m. It's no sniper rifle, but it isn't intended to be.

      Anyways, I guess I'm just arguing him calling the AK-47 "mostly defunct". Old, certainly, but it still gets the job done, and it's still widely used...

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    12. Re:Mob Justice by fatphil · · Score: 1

      For spammers, I've always promoted the "Death by a Million Paper Cuts" method. Everyone wronged merely has to contribute one paper cut, but they will all add up.

      FatPhil

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    13. Re:Mob Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Goodness knows, I wouldn't want them BEHIND me.

    14. Re:Mob Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit. It's NOT useable after dropping it in, well, anything without proper preparation - a plug in the barrel at the very least. 7.62x39 isn't any more standard than 5.56mm NATO, military and paramilitary organisations with low budgets love them because they are cheap and common. AR15 family weapons can use C-Mag drums, it's nothing special. I'm really sceptical of the maximum effective range figures in your specs and saying you rarely have to do anything to the things is complete crap. Yes, they require less maintenance than AR15s and several other weapons, but there is a cost to that. They are rugged, cheap and effective guns, but they are not magic and there are several ways in which they are inferior to more costly weapons.

      How the hell did I come to arguing about this in an article about spam?

    15. Re:Mob Justice by 70Bang · · Score: 1



      I suggested something similar to this (renaming him "Betty Sue") when I mentioned this momentous event in a discussion about another topic ca. two hours prior to this story finally being posted. (not to mention my surprise no one had posted the story itself)

    16. Re:Mob Justice by Jim+has+Skillz · · Score: 1

      I say you throw him in a tank that has sharks with freakin laser beams attached to their heads.

    17. Re:Mob Justice by BigCheese · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the lemon juice!

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  4. I'm sure.. by schmiddy · · Score: 5, Funny

    the underworld is abuzz with concern that, faced with enough evidence to put him in jail, Ralsky will squeal on his associates

    I'm sure Mr. Ralsky's associates have nothing to fear. An upstanding, honest businessman such as himself would never rat on his friends.

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    1. Re:I'm sure.. by rishistar · · Score: 2, Funny

      I disagree. I'm sure iff he gets put in the showers with recipients of his penis enlargement offers he'll do quite a bit of squealing.

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  5. Singing by AuMatar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thats singing contralto, right? I mean, we are going to punish that slime in an appropriate manner.

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    1. Re:Singing by Vainglorious+Coward · · Score: 1

      Thats singing contralto, right?

      Indeed, I submitted this article with the headline "Spam King to Sing Like a Canary"

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    2. Re:Singing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe the word you are looking for is castrato.

    3. Re:Singing by pathological+liar · · Score: 0

      I think you mean castrato.

  6. Prison too good for him! by ArcherB · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can we send this guy to Guantanamo? How about Abu Ghraib? How about if we glue a put a yamaka on his head and drop him off in downtown Tehran.

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    1. Re:Prison too good for him! by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      yamaka

      The term you are looking for is "Yarmulke". Unfortunately, it is pronounced exactly like "Yamaka".

      --This message brought to you from the Committee to Pronounce "Goethe" as "Gertha", and paid for by the Office of the Irish Taoiseach (pronounced, of course, "Teeshock").

    2. Re:Prison too good for him! by stinerman · · Score: 5, Informative

      Any true Muslim wouldn't mind at all since Jews (and Christians) are People of the Book

    3. Re:Prison too good for him! by cptgrudge · · Score: 2, Informative
      In the very link you provide, this is listed:

      Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold forbidden that which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 9:29

      O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends/protecters; they are friends/protecters of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend/protecter, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people. 5:51

      What exactly is your point by linking to it? I thank you for the link, though, it was very interesting.

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    4. Re:Prison too good for him! by Elemenope · · Score: 2, Informative

      His point, I imagine, is that under Sharia the Jews, for example, have legal protections that heathens do not, including importantly having the protection of the law. There is in fact a very small community of Jews that lives in Iran, and in their parliament (analogue) there are a small number of seats set aside for them. You are right when you say (and quote) that just because they have legal protection and status, they do not necessarily have respect; I would only say that that is an entirely different issue, as important as it may be.

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    5. Re:Prison too good for him! by postmortem · · Score: 1

      He could work as human spam filter in prison. If he has good memory, he would remember his own "work", and recognize it faster than anti-spam software.

    6. Re:Prison too good for him! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a hard 't' in "Goethe", btw.

    7. Re:Prison too good for him! by number11 · · Score: 1

      The term you are looking for is "Yarmulke". Unfortunately, it is pronounced exactly like "Yamaka".

      Seeing as the word is Yiddish, which is written with the Hebrew alphabet, there isn't really any definitive spelling in the Roman alphabet. Same is true with Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, and a lot of other languages. Phonetic is as good as it's going to get, absent any official body that rules on spellings. The Chinese are trying to do that, which is why what used to be "Peking" is now "Beijing", though the Chinese name hasn't changed.

      It's true that "yarmulke" is the most conventional English spelling.

    8. Re:Prison too good for him! by Psykosys · · Score: 1
      And from just above that:
      And do not dispute with the followers of the Book except by what is best, except those of them who act unjustly, and say: We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you, and our God and your God is One, and to Him do we submit.
      A religious text is self-contradictory, what a surprise.

      Looking at the historical record you will see, however, that the above passage, as opposed to the intolerant ones, was the one which was generally adhered to. "Pagans" (often Hindus, thus the quotes) and polytheists have not always been treated so nicely (by Muslims or Christians).

    9. Re:Prison too good for him! by killjoe · · Score: 2, Informative

      Oddly enough during the inquisition the jews fled into the muslim controlled areas of spain, portugal and north africa where they were welcomed and protected from the christians.

      How times change huh? I remember when Russia and china were enemies, my parents remember when russia and china were an allies and germany, italy and japan were enemies.

      Who knows maybe one day iran, syria and palestine will be allies and israel will be an enemy. It could happen in a generation.

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    10. Re:Prison too good for him! by eLijahTheReticent · · Score: 1

      Tehran's downtown is a flooded with illegal drugshttp://www.mehrnews.ir/fa/NewsPrint.aspx?News ID=293630 [Mehr News Agency] so I think he can find a good market for his penis enlargement pills.

    11. Re:Prison too good for him! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      How about if we glue a put a yamaka on his head and drop him off in downtown Tehran.


      What do you expect to happen in this scenario? Perhaps he will be welcomed by members of one of the eighteen synagogues in Tehran? If Iranians hated Jews, they would start by 'cleansing' their country, beginning with the capitol. On the contrary, the occasional Iranian president actually been seen in a synagogue meeting with Iranian Jewish leaders.

      http://www.iranjewish.com/Essay/Photos/khatami5.jp g

      Realistically, a more brutal scenario would be to drop him off at the RNC with a copy of the Constitution glued to his chest. Then you'd see some violence.

      Figures that the brilliant Slashdot moderators would give hate speech a +4 funny.

    12. Re:Prison too good for him! by Huntr · · Score: 1

      Seeing as the word is Yiddish, which is written with the Hebrew alphabet, there isn't really any definitive spelling in the Roman alphabet.

      I agree. We always spell it J-E-W-I-S-H- -H-A-T

    13. Re:Prison too good for him! by isaacklinger · · Score: 0

      Well, as we can see, there is no True Muslim.

    14. Re:Prison too good for him! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember when Iraq wasn't, then was, then wasn't, then really wasn't, and now is, kinda

    15. Re:Prison too good for him! by killjoe · · Score: 1

      Same with Iran. I remember when we overthrew the democratically elected leader and installed the shah as a dictator. Now we are mad because they are not a democracy anymore.

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  7. Fed want Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since google shut them down, the feds want his logs of valid emails and porn site addresses. Just because a person doesn't visit sites doesn't mean they don't see porn. Anything for the kids.

  8. Let the punishment fit the crime, no plea bargains by rts008 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Before a slow and painful execution, he should have his anal sphincter jerked up around his adam's apple, his scrotum tied (in a proper square knot) behind his ears, then beat with a baseball bat until dead. ;)

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  9. But by kratei · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Great news. But, will this stop or even slow down spam? No. Even if they got half the spammers out there it would keep coming. Why? Too much easy money out there for the taking. Even if they got evey one who operates in the US we would still have a problem overseas . . . and I really doubt that any administration - yes even this one - would invade say Nigeria simply to cut down on spam. Anyway, how are we going to stop chineese spammers? Invade China? Ask their govenment to cut out illegal buisness practices? Yeah right. One spam king may fall, but another will rise in his place.

    1. Re:But by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Of course it won't stop spam but that doesn't mean we should let the criminals get away with it.

      --
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    2. Re:But by mrjb · · Score: 2

      Even if they got evey one who operates in the US we would still have a problem overseas
      That's a bit short-sighted. It would get rid of the majority of all spam, considering that the U.S. is the main source of all spam. China, although being the most popular non-US relay for spam, doesn't even come close.

      From my perspective, if I could reliably block all spam originating from abroad, I'd have 99.9% less spam in my inbox. I'd take the occasional Nigerian scam for granted.

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    3. Re:But by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 1

      Doesn't matter, hefty punishments will discourage others from trying it .

    4. Re:But by zuluechopapa · · Score: 1

      spam (just like mp3 downloads) funds terrorism. there. now we have the appropriate justification.

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    5. Re:But by Ph33r+th3+g(O)at · · Score: 1

      Blocking all APNIC ranges as I receive a spam from them has cut my spam by over 90%.

      --
      I too have felt the cold finger of injustice.
  10. Re:Let the punishment fit the crime, no plea barga by SpottedKuh · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...he should have his anal sphincter jerked up around his adam's apple, his scrotum tied (in a proper square knot) behind his ears...

    I think I got some spam for a site like this just a few days ago...

  11. Re:Let the punishment fit the crime, no plea barga by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The slow and painful execution might be tough after he's been beaten until dead with a baseball bat. If you can figure out how though, sweet!

  12. Let's be generous.... by Fantasio · · Score: 5, Funny
    With this kind of news, I'm in a good mood !

    If Ralsky deserves only one second of jail for each minute infuriated users have lost deleting his crap, this could ammount to thousands of years of jail.

    I'll be generous and I'll accept that his time in jail be divided by ten if he tells the Feds everything he knows !

    Cheers !

  13. Of flying objects and domiciles by GaryOlson · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Those who live in toilet paper houses should not fling poo else they find themselves being used to wipe the backside of someone bigger and meaner.

    I have no idea how this statement applies; it just seems appropriate.

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    1. Re:Of flying objects and domiciles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      s/else/lest

  14. Rumor control... by Eggplant62 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Take this whole thing with a grain of salt. There has been no reputable source that has provided this information; it's simply a rumor. Steve Linford has posted on news.admin.net-abuse.email that he knows nothing about Ralsky being taken into custody, and other reliable sources in the antispam forces known to me have no further information to corroborate this story.

    Still, it's good news if it turns out to be true. I guess if we don't hear anything by Tuesday or Wednesday, given enough time for the rumored 72 hour seal on Ralsky's indictment to expire, we'll know whether this is bullshit or not.

    1. Re:Rumor control... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Yes, but what does Stiffy Linefeed say?

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    2. Re:Rumor control... by Vainglorious+Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Absolutely, it's still all nothing more than a single swirling rumour based on the valleywag IM, and the tantalising yet plausible contributions from some unknown poster on nanae.

      But we all so want it to be true...

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    3. Re:Rumor control... by etzel · · Score: 1

      "it's simply a rumor"

      That makes me feel much better. God forbid the FED's find out about my brand new enlarged penis...

      Seriously: dust to dust, ashes to ashes, scum to scum.

      --
      "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
    4. Re:Rumor control... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      The alias "MemeHacker" just screams literate troll, doesn't it? :) Meme = infectious ideas, Hacker = hacker.

      (Or he broke into my test page to generate the name.)

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    5. Re:Rumor control... by Eggplant62 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Further info from a spammer board posting indicates that Al is still free and *NOT* in custody. My source remains anonymous until I can further confirm it.

    6. Re:Rumor control... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your name generator asks that IE users allow ActiveX controls not marked safe for scripting to be used? That's a STUPID IDEA! Better to persuade them to add your site to the trusted zone, at least then you won't be letting them loose on the web with even less security! At the bare minimum you could remind them to turn it back afterwards.

    7. Re:Rumor control... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      True. It was a quick hack page that I did while zoning from cold medication... :^)

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  15. let's test some of this stuff on him by r00t · · Score: 3, Funny
    We can start with the MAKE PENIS FAST chain letter, just for fun.

    He won't mind. There is a distinct possibility of failure, but if things go rotten he can always take a few penis pills.

    (one wonders... if vitamin pills contain vitamins and garlic pills contain garlic, what might penis pills contain?)

    1. Re:let's test some of this stuff on him by keith134 · · Score: 0

      Better yet, let's test those pills out on his cellmate, Bubba :D

  16. Re:Let the punishment fit the crime, no plea barga by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

    No no--that might be cruel. Give him a form to fill out to opt-out of this punishment. (By form, I mean a giant stack to them. And one pencil.)

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  17. Hmm by kitsunewarlock · · Score: 1

    Hey, a way to help the national debt: ebay his fate. Is this the same person who was given a sentence of "never being allowed to use a computer for 5 years"?

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    1. Re:Hmm by CCFreak2K · · Score: 1

      Don't you mean until his 18th birthday? Then again, I don't remember this person's handle being zerocool.

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      "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."
  18. Squeal on His Associates? by DieByWire · · Score: 1, Funny

    He'll be squealing for his new associates.

    --
    Never shake hands with a man you meet in a fertility clinic.
  19. Gifts for his cell mate. by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 3, Funny

    No. Leave him in jail for a while. Lets send some penis enlargment pills, spemmax, and instant cialis tabs to his cell mate.

    See if his cell mate lets him opt-out.

  20. Ralsky has been in jail before by Bellhead · · Score: 5, Informative
    If this rumor is true, it'll mean major sweeps of the spam underworld and many of its hangers-on: Ralsky has been behind bars before, and I doubt he's willing to go back.

    According to the Spam Daily News - (http://www.spamdailynews.com/publish/FBI_raid_shu ts_down_world_most_prolific_spammer.asp)

    However, Ralsky acknowledges that his success with spam arose out of a less-than-impressive business background. In 1992, while in the insurance business, he served a 50-day jail term for a charge arising out of the sale of unregistered securities. And in 1994, he was convicted of falsifying documents that defrauded financial institutions in Michigan and Ohio and ordered to pay $74,000 in restitution.

    Of course, this could bode well or ill for prosecutors: Ralsky has been in jail, perhaps for just long enough to be scared of it. The question is: did he get hard enough to stare them down?

    My bet is that he'd do the deal: he's a con artist, after all, but he's shared a bunk with real hardened felons, and that's likely to be the kiss-of-death for his co-conspirators when push comes to shove.

    Bellhead

    1. Re:Ralsky has been in jail before by kitsunewarlock · · Score: 1

      Well, if he was smart you'd think he'd move to a more spam friendly country. Maybe something in deep, deep Africa...or perhaps boat out to some god-forsaken island that somehow has a post-office. I wonder if Cuba's embargo includes data...then again spam should probably be recatagorized as "undata". Personally I think the companies paying spammers to spam should be just as liable as the spammers.

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    2. Re:Ralsky has been in jail before by killjoe · · Score: 1

      If you make a million and give back 750K and serve 50 days in jail then your profit was 250K. I would go to jail for 50 days if somebody gave me 250K. Hell I would do that once or twice a year especially in a white collar jail.

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    3. Re:Ralsky has been in jail before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "real hardened felons"??

      May I remind you, that most people in prison, are there for non-violent drug "offenses"?

  21. Abort fire mission Fox Ultra! by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

    I guess there's no need to target the place now.

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  22. Oh please... by pxpt · · Score: 1

    ...oh please let this be true. I often thought that kneecapping spammers with a nail spiked baseball bat was too soft a punishment for these guys.

  23. What charges? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if the feds will bust him under charges such as attempting to sell drugs to children.

  24. Do what they do on TV (was:Mob Justice) by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 1

    Turn him loose on the streets. Rumor will be abuzz that he cut a deal with the Feds, and someone is bound to put a contract on his head, compelling him to turn state evidence.

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  25. Will he be D & D or will he be a canary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ask Johnny Friendly.

  26. Spam king is Sanford Wallace by andrewagill · · Score: 1

    Who is Alan Ralsky? The Spam King is, was, and forever shall be Sanford Wallace. With the Duke of Crass being Scott Richter and the Earl of Insanity being Roddy ``Time Traveller'' Todino.

    1. Re:Spam king is Sanford Wallace by Dark_Gravity · · Score: 1

      Who is Alan Ralsky? The Spam King is, was, and forever shall be Sanford Wallace. With the Duke of Crass being Scott Richter and the Earl of Insanity being Roddy ``Time Traveller'' Todino.

      He will always be "Spampa Al" to me.

    2. Re:Spam king is Sanford Wallace by macdaddy · · Score: 1

      Alan Ralsky is the grand-daddy of spammers. His past work makes Wallace and friends look like a bunch of chimps tossing shit at one another. The king of spam will always be Alan Ralsky. He pioneered the industry.

    3. Re:Spam king is Sanford Wallace by andrewagill · · Score: 1

      I beg your pardon?

      Sanford Wallace was a scourge on the internet in 1995. He sued AOL in 1996. He tried to make a pro-spam backbone for the internet in 1997. He was heavily involved in junk faxes, presumably before 1991, when they were outlawed.

      Ralsky is a major spammer, yes, but the King of Spam? Sanford.

    4. Re:Spam king is Sanford Wallace by macdaddy · · Score: 1
      Hardly. Ralsky was defrauding people with Spamford was sucking his thumb and wearing diapers. I'll simply fall back on the ROKSO. Ralsky has a lengthy entry. Wallace's is all but not existent.

      On a side note I checked out SpamHaus's Top Ten and was surprised. I didn't realize how out of touch I've become with the anti-spam effort over the last year or so. I didn't recognize any of the spamming clowns. Too much to do and too little time to screw it up in.

    5. Re:Spam king is Sanford Wallace by andrewagill · · Score: 1

      Ralsky did some fraud, but I don't think he even touched spam until Wallace had come and gone.

  27. robby, sorry by andrewagill · · Score: 1

    Robby Todino, not Roddy. Sorry about that.

    1. Re:robby, sorry by deimtee · · Score: 1

      must have been the pills.

      --
      I'm guessing that wasn't on their radar screen...
  28. In a way... by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Death is, after all, the ultimate annoyance, followed by theft.

  29. It’s spelt “gaol”. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    G-A-O-L, you stupid Yanks. Gaol.

  30. MAKE $$$ FAST!!!!! by peterfa · · Score: 0, Funny
    Make $$$$ fast!! Just hold down the shit-key and then the 3 key and you'll be making $$$$ fast!!

    Yes... I stole this from Bash; sue me.

  31. Slashdot Crowd loves Federal Government by achesloc · · Score: 4, Funny

    If (Feds.prosecute() == Spammer)
            slashdotCrowd.getsSuperExcited();
    else if (Feds.prosecute() == AnybodyElse)
            slashdotCrowd.getsSuperMad();

    1. Re:Slashdot Crowd loves Federal Government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Dude, since when is prosecute() the name of an accessor? That's ridiculous. Feds.prosecute(foo) should make the Feds prosecute foo. Feds.prosecutedEntities() should return an array.

    2. Re:Slashdot Crowd loves Federal Government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *THIS* is why I love /.

      A.A

    3. Re:Slashdot Crowd loves Federal Government by achesloc · · Score: 1

      Indeed. I wrestled with the syntax for awhile. Ultimately I decided that it would be more effective to have a return type that was used for the branch condition. Can you send me a memo with really detailed UML diagrams? Yeah, and we are going to have to have you come in on Sunday too, mmmkay?

    4. Re:Slashdot Crowd loves Federal Government by patio11 · · Score: 1

      Bad java programmer, no twinkie. getProsecutedEntities() will probably return a Collection :)

  32. Something better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    1) Give him only one email address

    2) publish that email on slashdot.

  33. Actually, you are wrong by zoomshorts · · Score: 0

    Sign him up for kiddie porn, he deserves no less.

    Failing to find kiddie porn, send gay porn. His
    wife will love it, his kids will be proud.

  34. Hand him over to the GNAA. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    seriously, I am not affiliated with the GNAA, but, I say duct tape him to a pole (a chair would be too nice) and force him to watch gayniggers from outerspace in new remastered hi-def at least 80,000 times, then expose him to GNAA IRC spam and other things not meant for the human mind.

    in the end he'll be a quivering, insane mass of a man.

    also, depriving him of food and water at vriable intrevals is bound to have an effect as well.

  35. Bless that Spam King. Love works no ill will. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously people. Bless that Spam King.

    When you have found an inexpensive way to earn(?) money at the careless expense to the frugal nature (commercial fishermen, or a broken system of poorly trusted/crippled-Client peers awaiting for Server mail delivery and transfer) why issue over cruel and unusual punnishment that is disproportionate to the act? Most tools/firearms have a lock, yet on the front of the slave market there is a poorly updated protocol for moving mail mixed to fellowship of letters-patent and then that tresspass of COMMERCIAL SPEACH.

    Look at the evidence: the 'Spam King' is equally as captivated and crushed by the same poor economy that his accusers contribute unto. Everyone has a judgment for him, the same meritless warrant derived from the bottomless pit of opinions that self-sacrifice any benefit to the world. People like 'Spam King' exist in no other economical condition but that of our suppressed one. Don't any of you think that if there was a free market, that there wouldn't be a 'Spam King' simply because a superior Mail protocol would have Competed to its proper standing?

    Historically, anyone in commerce is an abomination among the people moving Post for fellowship and prior agreement. Somewhere, the Commercial Code has been skewed to ignore a truth that all Commercial Speach (ADVERTISEMENT) is a presentment for Contract or Trust; that Commerce has now been tresspassed into the same affinity among the patroons and patrons at the general post-office.

    He's someone else's liar. An idolater doing someone else's will. Think about that, because he's just a scapegoat. If anyone has ever sent hate-mail, then they're no better than that alleged "Spam King." Meanwhile, the truth is moving about to prove that Spam King has created more jobs than Microsoft could create...to block his mail. The job of "Spam King" deserves a Darwin Award for its inevitability, but deserves a Silver Plaque for proving that he is the one that will cause Mail post and delivery to become more secure and efficient.

    Somewhere, Benjamin Franklin (postmaster general) rolled a little slower in his grave, but resumed the next second when a WAR-TIME-ONLY jurisdiction (the United States) is trying a Civilian in their limited-time Military Tribunal. /**** **** Awakes
    A: Hot dog, how long was I out?
    B: Well...you were hit by a Drive-by Disagreement
    A: I was just standing there, I felt a bump, and then awoke from a Nightmare where I had to forgive my mortal Enemy!
    A: Save your thoughts, and hide the Stuff. Our Warden is conducting searches today and starts on our Block this time. We don't want any disapproval in our attendance record.

  36. vermin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    put his ballz in a blender. Oh yeah, he'll sing.

  37. I smell the style of NRAdude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This gibberish post has many similarities with the posting style (sic) of NRAdude. Shouldn't her care-worker have her tucked up in bed by this time on a Saturday night?

  38. Only if you Brit-spellers prosecute him too... by billstewart · · Score: 1
    He won't be in "gaol" unless you Brits (or Aussies, or whoever) go extradite him and prosecute him too. Not that I have any problem with that, after we're done with him.

    But actually, it's only "jail" for now - if we're lucky it'll be followed by "prison".

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    1. Re:Only if you Brit-spellers prosecute him too... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its just the Australians it looks like.

      Jail would be correct spelling in any other english speaking country.

    2. Re:Only if you Brit-spellers prosecute him too... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm fairly certain that "Gaol" is an accepted spelling in British English, but it is considered archaic. Modern official documents use "Jail" (Or "Prison").

  39. Well that settles it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Further info from a spammer board posting indicates that Al is still free and *NOT* in custody

    ...and spammers are rightly famed for their fastidious adherence to truth and honesty :|

  40. Re:Let the punishment fit the crime, no plea barga by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Hangin's too good for 'im. Burnin's too good for 'im. He should be torn into little bisty pieces and buried alive!"
    --Hanover Fiste, Heavy Metal

  41. no, castrato by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think that more appropriate.

  42. With chinese medicine, it pays not to be curious by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1
    Very straightforward people those chinese. Something got a big dick. Eat it.

    Funny in a way because IF there would be any logic to the idea that you absorb the essence of what you eat, then all the predators would be prey.

    The mighty wolf would be a bit of a deer. The great white a bit of a surfer dude. The anteater a tiny insect.

    But I guess when your chinese you are pretty desperate for anything that might give you a bigger penis.

    Lucky as a true nerd I am above that. Doesn't much matter for jerking off what size it is ^_^

    --

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    You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.

  43. Especially since their penis pills worked by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1

    O_O squeel piggy squeel.

    --

    MMO Quests are like orgasms:

    You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.

  44. What a shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope someone takes a 'special interest' in him when he goes to prison.

    1. Re:What a shame by mrjb · · Score: 1

      Like sending him lube ads?

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  45. Petty Warez? by Animaether · · Score: 1

    Petty Warez, you say?

    If you think there's no money in bootlegged musics, movies, software (games and business software), then you need to think again. Sure, there may not be much if you're distributing over P2P (some money going to sites hosting trackers for torrents or authors of the P2P software in question instead) - but if you do it through high-rate FTP sites or even further down to actual CD/DVD sales... there is decent money to be made. Depending on the scale and geography of your operation, either a nice sports car, or enough money to not work for a few years.

    Now if you meant to say those who are indeed downloading off of P2P networks, or those passing out a CD to their classsmate for free... yeah, agreed, time better spent on the big fishes. That said, both are illegal, so both should be addressed.

    ( And yes, I know not all downloads are copyright protected, and yes I know that many of those that are, are instead governed by licenses such as the GPL. The context here is audio/video/software that the recipients would not be legally entitled to have. )

    1. Re:Petty Warez? by Mr.+Hankey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's a waste of taxpayer dollars to go chasing after P2P "warez" traders. Petty, irresponsible and ridiculous. On the other hand, taking down someone who floods the internet with gigabytes, perhaps terabytes of garbage, slowing down the connections of businesses and individuals alike for personal gain, filling everyone's inboxes with lewd advertisements for porn and "enhancements"... There's simply no comparison here.

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    2. Re:Petty Warez? by rm999 · · Score: 1

      The thing is laws against spam are a bit contrived, whereas laws against warez have a backing in thousands of years of laws against stealing. Is sending junk mail to someone's address illegal? No, so why should sending junk e-mails to someone's e-mail address? I'm not saying I disagree with spam laws, I'm just saying it's not as obvious as you put it.

    3. Re:Petty Warez? by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      Because in sending junk mail to addresses the sender pays all costs.

      To spam a million addresses, the recipient fronts most of the cost and the chances are the spam is coming from zombie machines anyway. Zombie machines (usually) rely on something illegal happening along the route.

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    4. Re:Petty Warez? by Mr.+Hankey · · Score: 1

      SPAM is a different problem entirely. It's an attack against a basic infrastructure component, utilizing offensive and disruptive content to reduce the effectiveness of the email medium. It also consumes a very significant amount of bandwidth, deteriorating the performance of large parts of the network for the benefit of the spammer alone. Bandwidth is in fact metered, even if by interface limitation, and is paid for by each peer on the network from the mail server to the client host.

      The "stealing" you speak of is barely even that, and is in fact only supported by relatively recent copyright legislation. The original owner is not deprived of the item, and speculation on potential profits stretches the credibility of the argument. Were there not deep-pocketed interests on one side of the argument, these laws would not exist. Frankly, they work against the best interests of the public in exactly the same way that SPAM does.

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    5. Re:Petty Warez? by gmack · · Score: 1

      Your forgetting that much of this spam was sent from machines that were broken into.. If nothing else that was a crime.

      Plus theres the bestiality sites he was spamming for.

    6. Re:Petty Warez? by billcopc · · Score: 1

      If you mean the idiots who advertise "OEM" software in my inbox sixty times a day, then yes I'm sure there's a sizable bunch of imbeciles who actually fall for the warez scam and pay up. Hell, sometimes I'd want to move to some ghetto country and "resurrect" my tech career by becoming a pirate, because it seems those crooks are much less depressed than us jobless developers.

      These guys hide behind legal loopholes and fickle countries who ignore copyright, some nations are even hostile about it and will countersue the copyright holders. The only way to stop warez/spam or any other illegal online activity is to have a target in a country that's legally accessible, whether it's a site owner, admin, host.. any link in the chain. If the scammers know their way around the system though, there's nothing we can do to stop them, short of carpet-bombing the entire planet.

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    7. Re:Petty Warez? by Cornelius+the+Great · · Score: 1

      I hate to break it to you, but much of the spam I've been receiving lately are phishing scams, including those infamous 419 scams as well as realistic-looking "update your paypal/bank account/credit card info" scams.

      These scams are felony offenses. Illegally downloading an mp3 through bittorrent isn't.

      --
      Sigs are for losers
    8. Re:Petty Warez? by Skippy_kangaroo · · Score: 1

      I think you post raises the important distinction between what is legal or illegal and what is right or wrong.

      Laws are an imperfect instrument for getting people to do what is right - but they are the best we have. The problems occur when people equate what is legal with what is right rather than starting with what is right. You get classic examples in stock markets where companies cook the books in an entirely legal manner that is fundamentally misleading. It is only when someone decides that what they are doing is so fundamentally wrong that they try to convict them - but usually using novel interpretations of existing laws. Spam fits right into this scenario. It is wrong but because of the inadequacy of our laws it is commonly not illegal. Instead, people have to develop novel interpretations of existing laws (e.g. stealing computer bandwidth, tresspass on computers or whatever). It is helpful that the people dealing in spam are generally gutter-trash who can be relied on to be into other shady activities.

      So, don't make the mistake of confusing what is right with what is legal.

    9. Re:Petty Warez? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, but most spam is for ILLEGITMATE (read fraudulent) items. Doing this same thing via the US Post Office is a felony (read mail fraud)

    10. Re:Petty Warez? by rm999 · · Score: 1

      I think you and most of the other people who replied to my comment misunderstood what I was saying. What you are saying is obvious to most people (including me), but the problem is just intuitevly saying something is "wrong" makes for bad laws. Warez laws are grounded in thousands of years of laws against stealing that we know make sense. Laws against heavily using resources can be overbearing on people who don't mean any harm. Should we jail people for driving too much? It's more dangerous for others on the road and can be wasteful...

      Just to be clear, I agree with what you say about spam being wrong, but I disagree with the statement: "There's simply no comparison here" about warez VS spam. There is a comparison, and keeping the reasons why in mind is important to ensure our government is not creating unfair laws.

    11. Re:Petty Warez? by Mr.+Hankey · · Score: 1

      And that's where we'll continue to disagree. Warez isn't nearly the problem that SPAM is, and it probably never will be. The government is going to continue to pass laws based on who has enough money to push their agenda through. No amount of consideration given to the comparison is going to change that, until the sort of corporate political lobbying that's currently laying our constitution to waste becomes illegal.

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  46. poor guy by spongman · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you're reading this Alan, I've got some excellent 'Get Out Of Jail Free' pills you might be interested in...

  47. Do they have the death penalty in the states for.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just wondering if they still have the death penelty in the states for spam.. parking tickets.. um you know "Terrorism" the self serving psychopaths in the white house think of as anything which is where someone uses their own free will. Although personally setting a nuclear bomb over washington sounds like a pretty damn good idea, good way of having a "garbage collection" ..Anyway enough of my thoughts on politicians and the psychopaths in the whitehouse

    I know the perfect punishment.. give him twenty years in a padded cell with a tv that cant be turned off and have the volume at full for twenty four hours a day EVERY day showing nothing except for commercials.

    Hey if the guy lasts a month hell be too much of a basket case to recommit, that or he will take himself out.

    Just my 2c of taxpayer dollars with

  48. Ah, Spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So we've finally reached the point where spammers no longer try to portray themselves as "honest, legitimate" businessmen?

    How about the halcyon days of USENET. We had the scumbag disbarred lawyer Cantor and Siegel who first decided to piss in the pool and then wrote a book on "How To Make A Fortune on the Information Superhighway". They disparaged "geeks" and "censorship" trying to make themselves look like real honest business folk.

    And then there were the USENET "Freedom Knights," a group of proto-spammers who banded together in protest of the mass SPAM cancels going on. All the usual palaver from these idiots as well...blather about SPAM being fee speech, the free market, etc.

    Ah, where are they now? So much for their bullshit about spammers being honest businessmen.

  49. How can you say that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The man deserves a fair trial and the right to defend himself.

    And then we throw him in a vulcano to appease our gods.

  50. Re:Give the man a fair trial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Now, you left wing liberals, take a look at yourself, you protest torture of prisoners in Abu Gurab -- these are terrorists who kill Americans -- but you want a real USA businessmen, who started a company and turned a profit -- to be killed and in one Slashdot's reader's words, AK47 gunned down, for a minor book-keeping offense?"

    So... you mistook what was obviously a playful fantasy intended simply to express irritation caused by the acts of an individual and spun it into left-wing hypocracy that only works in an unrealistically literal world. Very Limbaughian.

    You can blame your Troll Mod and your total lack of credibility squarely on yourself. Bet you're glad you posted anonymously.

  51. spam king vs. spews by bblboy54 · · Score: 1

    I think we should throw him in a room with the mythical person that runs SPEWS and let the best man win.

  52. That's GOTTA Hurt! by pandrijeczko · · Score: 2, Funny
    Simple spammer torture:

    Make the spammer have one of his own penis enlargements he's always telling us are so great & just as he's nice, red & sore after the operation, start feeding him the viagra he's alway telling us is so great. :-)

    Ouch!

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  53. Forget it... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1
    I wouldn't count on it. There's a different kind of justice for the rich than for the poor, and Ralsky has had plenty of time to scrape the cream off the top.

    He'll probably be a free man within weeks.

    1. Re:Forget it... by Galvatron · · Score: 1

      Different kind of justice? Bernie Ebbers, who effectively received a life sentence, might disagree.

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    2. Re:Forget it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Different kind of justice? Bernie Ebbers, who effectively received a life sentence, might disagree.

      The title of the article is "Ebbers gets 25 years." If he serves half that before being released I'll be shocked. Please don't be such a moron.

    3. Re:Forget it... by Galvatron · · Score: 1

      If you'd actually read the article, instead of just the title, you would have noticed the following:
      "Unless the court of appeals overturns his conviction or revises his sentence, federal sentencing guidelines suggest that Ebbers could serve slightly more than 21 years if prison officials determine he's a model prisoner.

      In that event, said former prosecutor John Hemann, Ebbers would likely be released several months early to serve out the remainder of his sentence in home detention or a halfway house."

      At 63 going in, he'll be at least 84 when he gets out. Health care in prison is less than exemplary, especially for senior citizens, so like I said, odds are that it's a life sentence. But I guess that doesn't fit in with your class warfare view of the world.

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  54. Genuine offer!!! by gijoel · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hello my name is Tunde Bamake and I am writting to you to offer an amazing deal.

    Recently an associate of mine Alan Rasky was arrested by the FBI on charges of sending spam and unsolicted emails. I assure you my friend that these charges are totally unfounded and he really needs your help.

    He has $10,000,000 ten million dollars sitting in a Swiss bank account which he needs to pay for his lawyers. He can not get that money because the FBI will confiscate it if he trys to access it.

    My friend, I am asking you as a Christian to help my friend Mr Rasky with little effort from yourself. All you have to do is allow us to transfer the $10,000,000 TEN MILLION DOLLARS through your personal account.

    This will be at no risk or effort to yourself. Mr Ramsky understands the effort you will be going through and thus is offering you $250,000 TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS for your help.

    Please my friend, I ask you to help Mr Ramsky in his hour of need.

  55. Pop quiz: which of these wastes more time? by njdj · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Which of the following wastes more of your time:

    1. Spam
    2. Unsubstantiated rumors on Slashdot

    Personally, I have a pretty good spam filter so it's #2 by a large margin.

    1. Re:Pop quiz: which of these wastes more time? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Slashdot wastes more of my time than most other things. The difference is that Slashdot:
      1. Is opt-in.
      2. Is entertaining
      Spam is neither of these things.
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    2. Re:Pop quiz: which of these wastes more time? by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 1

      But which wastes more of your bandwidth? Which one costs you money? You may not be seeing all the spam you get, but you're paying for it.

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    3. Re:Pop quiz: which of these wastes more time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what do you mean? I find text like the following word salad extremely entertaining



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  56. A fitting fate for him by SIGBUS · · Score: 1
    ...would be if he ended up bludgeoned to death like that Russian spammer, Vardan Kushnir.

    Although it later turned out to be just a simple case of robbery gone bad rather than an irate netizen, Kushnir sure got what was coming!

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  57. Mod Parent Down by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    It's a troll. No doubt someone has simply done a s/[infamous person]/Ralsky on a famous letter or whatnot.

    If you don't believe me, just search the text for the zero occurances of "spam" or "email" within.

    For bonus points, can you discover the original subject for the piece of text above?

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    1. Re:Mod Parent Down by patio11 · · Score: 1
      I think it was probably from a computerized flame generator. The sentences are individually syntactically meaningful but there is no sense to them. This is partially covered up by generous use of indefinite antecedents, with you the reader pressed into service to fill the gaps. These are both features of a simple random text generator -- there are ones all over the Internet that will cook up flames or complaint letters for you, and I wrote a few as an undergraduate AI student. With a very limited problem domain, some trickery, and discarding a lot of junk texts you can pass the output off as accurate to someone who isn't looking for it and won't examine it closely (I snuck some haiku past a literature teacher in with a bunch of real undergraduate haiku -- one of them got high marks).

      If you've got the stomach to start writing up lots of sentence patterns you can code this sort of thing up in gawk (or perl, if you're concerned about other people reading your code to steal your bright idea) in less than an hour.

  58. True or Not by smillie · · Score: 1
    It doesn't matter if the rumor is true or not, he now has to worry about his "friends" making sure he doesn't sing.

    Hmmmm... Car accident? Overdose of viagra? Die jumping out the window of a basement apartment?

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  59. mob mentality by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's been interesting reading over the replies and how quickly mob mentality gets perpetuated. One dude wanted to beat him with a baseball bat until dead. Spam is annoying and intrusive, but what's spooky is how the witch-hunt sets in when so many people feed off each other. Besides, if you think this one bust is going to stop spam and phishing you're sadly mistaken. People need to be educated on email use just like they do for using their computer. The spam/phishing problem is largely an ignorance issue. Maybe Best Buy should start including some web-use educational material in that shrink wrap.

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    1. Re:mob mentality by tomstdenis · · Score: 1

      Spam/phishing is not only of ignorance. I use gmail for my mail and still get a dozen spams a day in my inbox [and ten times that in my junk folder].

      The problem many people have with spam is not just that its a time waster but that they're largely powerless to do anything about it. They view being sent spam as a token that someone else thinks they're more important than you are and has no respect for your ability to communicate.

      At least that's how I view it. When I get spam in the inbox I ask myself "Who the fuck are you and what right do you have to send me the same penny stock advertisement 30 times in a row?"

      Not only is it emotionally annoying but it's a logistics nightmare. I get about 100 spams a day sent to my account. Now imagine if you're gmail or another large company with tens of thousands of accounts if not more. You start measuring spam in the millions per day. Someone has to pay for that and it certainly [at least now] isn't the spammer.

      Tom

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    2. Re:mob mentality by deacon · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Here is an experiment we can try to help you understand how things got this way.

      Let me come over and follow you around everwhere you go. At random intervals I shall tap you on the head from behind with a pencil. After you flip out (after an hour? a day?) and try to tear my head off, I will chastise you about your over-reaction, and how I was just tapping you with a pencil, etc. etc., and how I fear you might join a mob of People Against Pencil Tapping.

      Now imagine if someone had been sending you 300 pencil taps a day for years.

    3. Re:mob mentality by nobuddy · · Score: 1

      Methinks the spammer doth protest o'ermuch.

  60. opt out by Tom · · Score: 3, Funny

    He can always out-out of that prison sentence, right? Just a mail with "remove me"...

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  61. Maybe they'll fix Sony/Columbia by SlappyBastard · · Score: 1

    Given that few major companies are in as deep with the mob as Sony, perhaps we could shake out some stuff from purportedly legitimate businesses.

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  62. I'm a hacker. Not quaking at all. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



        I'm a hacker and I'm not quaking at all. In fact, I might just get up and dance here in a minute. I've actually done work for one of Ralsky's associates (hi spammerslime Josh from Miami, hope you go to jail, too!) but I held my nose the whole time.

      Oh, you'll want to know what work, won't you? I was tuning the IP plant for a small hosting company, the owner developed a problem with his nose, and Josh ended up hosting some pornospam stuff at that location. It was icky++ but they paided me well :-(

  63. Re:Let the punishment fit the crime by zpeidar · · Score: 1

    Hmmm, that wouldn't be any fun unless it would be broadcast live to all nations, done from a proper stage, with people throwing tomatoes at him. I guess a humane sentence would be 1 millisecond of pain for every mail sent by him or his associates, no-one sends mail in bulks of millions, uh, oh wait, never mind.

  64. A moment of silence for other innovators by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

    Let's not forget our lawyer friends in AZ:

    Cantor and Siegel:The Green Card Spammers

    Been there, seen that, got the T-shirt....

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  65. no point in playing whack-a-mole by v1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When legitimate businesses hire cockroaches to do their "dirty work" of spamming, the roaches aren't worth going after. You can stomp them all day and they just keep coming for the easy money. And they're hard to hit and they know it.

    You have to go after the businesses that hire the scum.

    I am trying that currently. In September I submitted an email address to Ford's "have a dealer in your area contact you about a Hybrid". I got several responses from dealers. Three weeks ago, that email address (which I made specially for that purpose) started receiving spam, one per day. I sent a nastygram to Ford and the dealers that responded to me asking who it was that sold my email address, in violation of their privacy policy as stated on their web site. One of the dealers replied, but the rest of the dealers AND Ford ignored my emails.

    Since then I have tried other emails to two of Ford's complaint addresses. One was ignored, and the other bounced with a "relaying denied" error.

    They know they are selling us out, and they really don't care. Businesses don't care about anything that doesn't cost them money, and if it MAKES them money, they care even less. Until it affects their wallet in the form of fines, legislation, and accountability, it won't stop.

    In my case it actually looks like the company that Ford pays to run their "have a dealer contact you" page ("morpace.com") is actually the one that is harvesting the email addresses that Ford's customers enter on the web page.. they forward your requet to the dealers per their business arrangement with Ford, AND add your name to their own internal spam mailing list that activates a few months later so you don't suspect their client (Ford) of having sold you out. You'd think that if Ford found out about this they'd be pissed and that would hit someone in the wallet, but so far my complaints have fallen only on deaf ears. I'm going to try calling them on Monday to see if anyone cares, though I'm guessing "no".

    It amazes me that Ford would risk pissing off a customer that is looking to buy a $28,000 product from them over maybe a quarter made by selling their email address to spammers.

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    1. Re:no point in playing whack-a-mole by LuckyStarr · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, it *could* be just another trojan sitting on a Ford dealers computer, reading his conversations, extracting email adresses, sending it up to his master...

      I doubt you will get anywhere with this method.

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    2. Re:no point in playing whack-a-mole by v1 · · Score: 1

      I doubt you will get anywhere with this method.

      You're probably right... but what else can we do? bend over and take it? Not all problems have a "good" solution, and I suspect this is one such problem.

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    3. Re:no point in playing whack-a-mole by 7ft_Big_Guy · · Score: 1

      Not necessarily true...
      I opened several accounts to try and track where spam came from... one I left open but never used as a "control"... took about 2 months or so, but it started slowly coming in... it's up to over 100 spams a day...
      Either ISP's are selling addresses, or they are just using a word generator and spamming every possible username@domain.com to get thru.

    4. Re:no point in playing whack-a-mole by v1 · · Score: 1

      In my case I run my own mailserver, and I watch the logs. I keep an eye out for dictionary attacks, both on passwords and on account names. So far I have only seen some manual things hit, people poking around for accounts named "admin", etc. nothing automated so far. So I'm fairly certain where they came up with that email address at. This email address was an alphanumeric combination, making it far less likely to be randomly guessed.

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  66. Why are people so obsessed with this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why the obsession?

    Oh no, you got a few emails that passed through your filter?

  67. Re:Let the punishment fit the crime, no plea barga by The+Walking+Dude · · Score: 1

    Tell him his sentence will be up as soon as he deletes the same number of spam he sent, and tell him (falsely) that the only way to get out sooner is to find a "get out of jail free" e-mail buried within the rest. Then stick him in a cell with a 56K modem and a connection that likes to randomly disconnect.

  68. Re:Let the punishment fit the crime, no plea barga by rts008 · · Score: 1

    ***bows down in awe****
    You are truly evil, evil I say! :)
    Fantastic idea!

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  69. did anyone else read this as... by t35t0r · · Score: 1

    Spam King going to Sing Sing?

  70. your mother payed me to fuck her anus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and it was fun

  71. BFD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The bigger problem has been and remains so-called legit companies. Why should accessing my mortgage info online _require_ that I get spam that has to again be stopped every couple of years? Same thing with the credit card company. CAN-SPAM makes individual lawsuits harder and the law is flaunted. 10 days is 30 day to 90 days. Mechanism is "log into your account and change your 'preferences'" when this process was a) done before and b) too prone to phishing. No password should ever be required to stop spam. Send a unique token with the email. Also, they often do not answer replies. This is illegal too ("fraudulent" return addresses).

  72. Unfortunately... by patio11 · · Score: 1
    ... by that standard there aren't many true Muslims in Iran. There are, on the other hand, apparently a lot of people reading that totally non-true-Muslim hadif about how the entire world (like, literally, rocks and trees and stuff) hates Jews:

    The day of judgment will not arrive until Muslims fight Jews, and Muslim will kill Jews until the Jew hides behind a tree or a stone. Then the tree and the stone will say, 'Oh Muslim, oh, servant of God, this is a Jew behind me. Come and kill him.' Except one type of a tree, which is a Jew tree. That will not say that.

    * hadif: Words of the Prophet Mohammed, as opposed to commentary from other people. Its basically the gold standard for canonical sources. But what do I know, I'm just an infidel.

  73. Re:Let the punishment fit the crime, no plea barga by tinkertim · · Score: 1

    ... and give him slackware + lynx + pine :)

  74. Re:MAKE ### FAST!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I tried it and all I got was ####

  75. You mean they're afraid he'll Ratsky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the article claims the underworld is abuzz with concern that, faced with enough evidence to put him in jail, Ralsky will squeal on his associates

  76. Re:MAKE ### FAST!!!!! by peterfa · · Score: 0
    I was really sleepy when I posted that :P

    There are three errors in that post. One is the 3 which should be 4. Where are the other two?

  77. Rumour probably not true by Vainglorious+Coward · · Score: 1

    Even valleywag now seems to concede that this rumour is false. It was fun while it lasted.

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  78. You tried it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where exactly is the shit-key you held down?