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The 100 Most Influential Women in Gaming
Ground Glass writes "Next Generation has posted a list of the 100 most influential women in the games industry. It's an exhaustive and nonsense-free take on a subject particularly important to the male-dominated world of videogames. From the article: 'A gender-inclusive approach to game design and marketing of games may ensure that most, if not all, considerations to producing games for myriad markets are not overlooked. Games are no longer produced for a niche market of players; they are produced for complex, over-lapping layers of demographically, geographically, socially and culturally-influenced consumer groups.'"
The missus. Her stern insistence and, as a last resort, use of the step-ladder to reach the fuse-box is the only reason I still have a life, job, pulse etc when faced with [insert game].
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Top 10 makes sense, top 100 is a bit of digging for no reason... in my opinion. intersting thou.
Kudos to Fiona Cherbak, who wrote the article. I'm still reading it, but I've learned a few interesting things so far. I'll mention Sue Bohle, who has worked on PR for two decades, 3DO included.
Or, can dead people not be considered to be "influential"?
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http://dir.salon.com/story/tech/feature/2003/03/1
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That John Romero chick is HOT
Where's Lara Croft? She has to be in the top 100! She is a real person, isn't she?
to gaming but computer science in general. I didn't see her in there. If I remember correclty, she was a US Naval Officer, and won a bet by doing the "impossible", designing a language that could use semi human words, instead of the bytecode that everyone had punched in up until then. She even made it work in three languages... Without her, the whole computer industry, let alone gaming, would have been set back years.
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And now that you know that it's gaming, you're not stunned that they found 100?
Cool links.
Even though they are referring to "gaming" rather than gambling, I for one am still surprised that they found 100.
There are 100 women in gaming?
*ducks*
And besides that, wtf would influential in gaming mean? Every part considering gaming? In that case Hillary Cliton should also be on that list.
Lara Croft appears *nowhere* in the top 100.
Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.
-- Pablo Picasso
Sounds like you meant (but didn't name) Grace Hopper, who (IIRC) was associated with the development of ADA.
http://www.sdsc.edu/ScienceWomen/hopper.html
They left out Morgan Webb? I can't believe it.
:) She made the list.
On a purely gratuitous note: Morgan Romine of Frag Dolls is just scorching
"Piter, too, is dead."
I believe you mean Grace Hopper.
Click print to view them all in one page. But seriously, where's Roberta Williams? Sure she's been retired from gaming for a few years, but she paved the way for women in the industry.
Reviewing just the first hour of video games.
Interesting, but I think they were really reaching for a number of these. I'd much rather see a list of the most signifigant women in gaming, past and present. I think they'd find a number of more signifigant women to talk about if they delved into the past, including Roberta Williams.
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So if it's exhaustive, then there can't be a 101th member. Of course, it reads more like 'these are females that I know currently in the industry, or peripherally related'. Hell, Ada Byron probably had more influence than any of the ones on the list, even if it was indirect.
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I must say that I have met less than 5 true female hardcore gamers(*)
It's interesting to see that there are that many "influential" females in the industry.
(*) Again, I don't play online, maybe going and playing the Sims may help.
What, no Mynx? Dear Mynx was the one reason I kept going back to planetquake...
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos
But Jessica Mulligan looks more like a man than a woman.
She's about 5 or 6 pages in. Can't miss her!
Jack Thompson is technically not a woman, but I hear he's a total twat.
Troll.
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Last time I read about women in gaming, years ago, it was all about a handful of "ubercute" gamer "babes" and of course Asia Carrera. Now the list starts out with women CEOs. Good stuff, now we're seeing some progress toward balance.
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If lists such as this give you a hard on, why not just list the top 100 influential *people* in the gaming industry? Why bother segretating the sexes via list?
I thought we stopped doing that in junior school dodgeball teams.
But didn't Dani do most of her influential work back when s/he was Daniel? That could be a technical disqualifier. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Bunten
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aye (to you and the others), I'm pretty sure that's her.
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Wait for it ... wait for it ...
Not only could they find 100 women in gaming, at any capacity, but they found 100 that are influential?
I'm actually astonished.
Not that I think that's a good thing-- I just think finding 100 *people* that are actually influential is astounding considering most gamers can't name more than 5 "celebrity" gaming figures, be it male or female. Granted, this is harldy the only test for "influence," but it's certainly not far fetched to think they are, perhaps, digging a bit deep to find 100 of only one (minority) gender.
Here's to hoping things change!
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[sarcasm]Yeah, because everyone's been writing programming languages for like 8 billion years, so someone in the '50s wouldn't have anything new to think up.[/sarcasm]
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Good point. I shouldn't have assumed that the typical programmer is capable of thinking up a simple one-to-one swapout algorithm if someone hadn't thought of it before. Come to think of it, that's probably why most bogus patents are granted in software:
Patent Examiner(PE): Hm... okay, it looks like they're trying to patent one-click shopping. No good. That's obvious.
Patent Examiner Assistant(PEA): But sir, is that obvious to someone competent in the art?
PE: I think so
PEA: That means, obvious to a programmer.
PE: Oh! Good point! Application granted!
I'll miss the karma, but it had to be said.
Apology to Ubuntu forum.
Just because something *seems* obvious to you, doesn't mean it's obvious to everyone.
That is especially true when you considered; you were set up in an environment where such was pervasive, and for them it was unheard of.
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I only saw a couple that I could actually respect. Game designer for Jak 3, ea_spouse, and head of PMS. Everyone else seemed to be VP this, Marketing that. This is not helping the steriotypes.
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You do realize that when Admiral Hopper was assigned to work on the first computers the US had (and I do literally mean first) there was no history to precede what she ended up working on, don't you??
She worked on many pioneering projects, and I believe can be credited (blamed?) with the invention of COBOL to simplify things.
Insinuating that the work Grace Hopper did wasn't the work of Genius is kind of like saying that "All Donald Knuth did was to write down some algorithms in a book", because it's largely on the same level of achievement. Failure to recognize that shows more of your ignornance than any deficiencies in her many accomplishments.
She is as an important figure in the history of computers as practically anyone else. Sure, in retrospect, it all seems obvious. Rest assured, when she did it, it was anything but old hat or easy to do.
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That's not a woman, that's a MAN, baby!!!
Airplanes would have been invented without the Wright brothers, but people start talking about them, do you get all huffy and say that anyone could have put together a piece of shit plane like they did?
And your patent argument is totally off-topic (though it does help to clarify why you're so bitter). First of all, one-click shopping is obvious to a shopper (who doesn't want less clicks?). Second of all, while I think she deserves props and is an important person in the history of technology, it's not like I was saying she should have had a patent on that so no one else could make a programming language that uses English words (I don't support software patents in general), and no one else did either.
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Christ, up until the 4th page I was wondering if any of them were involved with companies anyone ever heard or cared about. Then I saw the one from EA and realized that they did find atleast someone from a company everyone hates.
disclaimer: I've been known to store numbers in my ass for which to dig out when quantities are required.
OK, you are making an assumption: that people in the earliest days of computer program were even remotely would consider to be "typical programmers".
That couldn't be farther from the truth.
The concept of a steam engine seems fairly obvious now, pressure from the steam makes stuff move, easy. Go back a few hundred years, and tell someone with much less technical experience than the average person today has, and they'll give you a funny look.
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Honesting, ANY designer should be on the list over a "Director of Human Resources" or "Marketing Director" or many of the other titles of the people on the list, and Roberta Williams was hugely influential, and Jane Jensen has gotten tons of praise for her work with Gabriel Knight...
Ah, but therein lies the rub. At the time she was doing many of these things, there were practically no competent practitioners of the art. And nothing was obvious to anybody. Period.
She was one of the very first people to ever work on computers.
Not to over-inflate her importance, but you're kind of saying "Well, Newtonian physics is obvious to any first year physics student". The old adage in science is "I see far because I stand on the shoulders of giants"; of which she surely is one of them. That doesn't make identifying them trivial. It means they were that friggin' important.
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Sally Bevilacqua - for bring in bagels for the whole dev team on the 1st Monday of every month. Thanks Sally! You're a peach!
After meditating on it for a bit, I realized that the woman who wrote this list used the word "influential" when she meant to use the word "powerful." It makes a whole lot more sense now.
Rob
strike "most influential" and it actually makes sense.
She's the one on the right. I kid you not. Bow-chicka-bow-ow! Ms. Williams? I'm here to fix your hot tub. Uh oh, looks like I'm gonna hafta lay some new pipe!
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CEOs, Project managers, the list goes on. How are they influencial? Answer... "we couldn't find 100 women"
.biz site ... giving more credit to the "industry" or business sites must overinflate the value of useless management.
There's a lot of women in the industry, they just haven't been in the industry for as long as others, or others have not done as much in the current years. Roberta Williams for one hasn't had a game to my knowledge for years.
I can live with Clans, programmers, and producers (I'll even go with project managers) But why is CEos there, and why are they talking about companies who write Game guides? Neither really influences the industry, most or just figureheads. What really matters is owners and presidents as well as designers and producers. But of course this is written by a
To be fair, there are some that I just have to respect. Naughty Dog, for one. So, if you filter out all the crap, I'd argue you have 5 or 10, tops, but those 5 or 10 are worth more than several thousand femarketroids.
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You missed Rima Brek. She is a programmer. Also, there just plain aren't a lot of female lead game programmers in the industry. As far as I know, I was the only one in Australia, when I was there.
I have a little bit of knowledge about how this list was compiled. Fiona was originally going to publish only 50 names, but received so many recommendations that she expanded the list to 100. These women were almost entirely recommended by people outside of their companies. Many of the people who made recommendations were people (of both sexes) on the IGDA's women_dev list. There were many recommendations who didn't even make it onto the list (I recommended Evelyn Richardson, head of the Game Developer's Assocation of Australia, for example).
On the other hand, I don't think I could name that many influential males either. Carmack and Romero? Richard Garriot? Tim Sweeney? There just aren't that many star individuals.
aka John Romero's Ex-Wife.
She was hot, a level designer, a great gamer and was featured in Playboy.
See if you your name your article GAME INDUSTRY'S 100 MOST INFLUENTIAL WOMEN and then fill it with VPs of Marketing and your own boss (I regularly find myself contemplating this months rolling deadline and thinking "This is rough, thank god Mary Margaret Walker, CEO of recruitment agent Mary-Margaret.com is on the case.") you're just aiming to embarrass yourself to the Industry and its customers.
But, on the other hand, that's not really your audience is it?
This list is proposterous. They have people like Public relations officer at Nintendo and someone who teaches game design at some university, yet they fail to talk about the most influential people, such as Roberta Williams and other women who were famous for the adventure games from Sierra Online that came out back in the 80s and 90s. Maybe they ment the most infuential people still in games.
Stevie Case Of Ion Storm/MonkeyStone and Roberta Williams of the King's Quest fame - after looking at the list twice and not either of them - worthless list without either of these two