Next-Gen Console Exclusives Explored

SeventhStar writes "Siliconera has an article with a long list of exclusive titles broken down by next-gen console. The Playstation 3 only has a few exclusive games at the moment; 29 are third-party, with 12 are made by Sony. Meanwhile Microsoft has 48 Xbox 360 exclusive games, with 23 of them are developed internally. However it looks like the real winner for exclusive games is the Wii. There are 39 titles only for the Wii and even ported games are going to play differently. When you adjust the amount of exclusive games on the Xbox 360 for its one year head start, the Wii has more original games coming out for it. Since console exclusives help determine which console to purchase is the Wii in a good spot?"

Comments

Hmmmm

[Ralph Yarro]

There are 39 titles only for the Wii

Really? Where can I buy them? I hate to say this but the Xbox 360 is ahead in every type of game so far; all else is vapor.

Re:Hmmmm

[Anonymous Coward]

Agreed!

Personally, I'm waiting for Wii. This kind of vapor seems worth the wait.

Re:Hmmmm

[KDR_11k]

Vapor doesn't have people playing it at special events. Vapor is stuff that promises to come and gets delayed all the time, not stuff that comes out on time but hasn't been released for general consumption yet.

Novel concept

[Mr. Samuel]

Why don't we wait and see how many of these games are good, and then make our decisions?

Re:Novel concept

[Yvan256]

Because the usual "500 games available" marketing crap doesn't require good games.

Of course

[Stormwatch]

Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong, Starfox, Pokémon, the list goes on and on... like them or not, Nintendo has the strongest first-party lineup.

Re:Of course

[Fozzyuw]

Exactly, when you want to talk 'exclusive', you cannot get very far without talking about franchise names. Afterall, what does Sony have? I was going to say Crash Bandicot but a quick search shows he wasn't 'exclusive'. The only 2 franchises I can think of for Sony is Twisted Metal and the Everquest games (Champions of Norath, etc).

However, with that said, franchise games won't 'sell' millions of consoles. Just look at the Gamecube. I bought that over the PS2 due to primarly Zelda and Metroid. The GameCube was not as strong as Nintendo would have hoped. And even if a game is labeled as 'exclusive' (unless franchise 1st party like Mario), it doesn't mean it won't migrate to a different platform in the future.

Afterall, at one point I recall the Resident Evil series was going to be 'exclusive' to the GameCube. Well, they got REZero and RE4, then RE4 was ported to the PS2. In the end, 'exclusivity' is just as strong as the entity that owns the license rights. The license can be sold to another person to allow that game to be created on another platform.

So, yes, exclusives helps (how many people bought an N64 just to play GoldenEye?), but it's truely title availability that matters. As a GameCube owner, it was more than frustrating seeing games come out for the XBox and PS2 but not the GameCube (due to whatever technical limits the GC had verses cost of converting the title). I now purchased a PS2 about a month ago and I'm catching up on all the great titles I missed (Kingdom Hearts, God of War, GTO, Final Fantasy, Guitar Hero, DDR, etc., etc.)

Cheers,
Fozzy

Re:Of course

[Anonymous Coward]

I beg to differ. Ico and Shadow of the Colossus, and to a lesser extent God of War, make Sony's first-party lineup easily as strong (if not as vast).

Re:Of course

[Anonymous Coward]

Sony including their second parties has released about one game a year on average worth playing. Nintendo releases many more than that.

The two aren't really comparable... would you really buy a Sony console *just* for their first/second parties? No third parties at all. Just their stuff.

People will and have done almost that for Nintendo's stuff.

Re:Of course

[rtechie]

Exactly, when you want to talk 'exclusive', you cannot get very far without talking about franchise names. Afterall, what does Sony have?

Who modded this up?

Ever heard of Final Fantasy? Or Metal Gear Solid? Or Grand Theft Auto? And yeah, even though MGS2 was ported to the XBOX, as were the GTA games, they had long periods of exclusivity on the PS2. And that helped the PS2 a lot. The PS2 beat the XBOX mainly because it had a LOT more games, just like the PS1 vs. N64. With such a huge library the PS2 offered "something for everyone", look at the success of the relatively bizarre Katamari Damacy and Guitar Hero.

Re:Of course

[Fozzyuw]

Ever heard of Final Fantasy? Or Metal Gear Solid? Or Grand Theft Auto?

MGS is not an exclusive francise to Sony, neither is GTA as you can find them on XBox and PC (like you said). You can also find FF games on the PC as well as other 'old' consoles before Sony. So, like I said, they're not exclusive like Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc. Until the day Nintendo goes the way of Sega, where Sonic can now be found on different systems, you won't be able to play any flavor of Nintendo 'franchise' games on a different system.

Lastly, if you forgot to notice, that was a question that was possed, not an insinuating remark. As the point was, Sony doesn't own any francises, those are all 3rd party games, with the exception of the Everquest games, which Sony does own now after they purchased Verant and it was absorbed into "Sony Station Online". However, I do believe Sony might own the license right to some FF games like FFVII which will obviously prevent titles based off those characters/stores form appearing on other consoles.

Cheers,
Fozzy

Re:Of course

[kmhebert]

Nintendo is in my opinion the best games publisher in the industry. I can't think of a single bad Nintendo game I have ever played, except perhaps Wild Gunman which lacks depth. That's a pretty amazing track record. Nintendo only releases games for Nintendo consoles which is why I always get Nintendo's consoles. With the Wii control scheme I feel like Nintendo has a double bonus going into this generation. One month to go, I really can't wait!

Re:Of course

[rtechie]

MGS is not an exclusive francise to Sony, neither is GTA as you can find them on XBox and PC (like you said). You can also find FF games on the PC as well as other 'old' consoles before Sony.

I'm not sure I understand this logic. It does not matter that that MGS and FF appeared on "old" consoles. You can also get the only Zelda games on Windows. These games are popular NOW (FF has been popular for a long time) and they are Sony exclusives NOW. We're talking about the latest generation consoles, right?

Of course, this will have an effect on the competely online services this generation as the wii will (in theory anyway) be able to offer the entire Nintendo lineup in their download service. But I think we have yet to see wheter on not Nintendo will pull that off.

So the real winner is Wii...

[hal2814]

...even though it's not because the 360 has more exclusives. Isn't the Wii getting enough good press on its own merits that we don't have make excuses as to why it doesn't have as many exclusives in the pipeline?

Re:So the real winner is Wii...

[Anonymous Coward]

The Xbox 360 has been out for a year. Counting all the released games as well as games known to be released next year, it only manages to have 9 more exclusives than the Wii.

Only good exclusives help

[c0d3h4x0r]

If a console has the highest number of exclusive titles, but 90% of them suck, then it doesn't matter.

The console with the highest number of good exclusive titles will have the advantage. Given Nintendo's history of making most of its own exclusive titles, and designing them in such a way that they seem "too childish" to most gamers, I'm betting the Wii's lead won't help them that much.

The Wii will only win if Nintendo can successfully overcome the American audience's perception that Nintendo is "for kids". Having the cheapest console on the market, with magic flying dildos for controllers, isn't going to help.

Re:Only good exclusives help

[SSCGWLB]

Having the cheapest console on the market, with magic flying dildos for controllers, isn't going to help.

Well, it might not help for male gamers...

Re:Only good exclusives help

[Purity Of Essence]

So dildo's are now "for kids"? Sicko.

Re:Only good exclusives help

[OmegaBlac]

Having the cheapest console on the market, with magic flying dildos for controllers, isn't going to help.

Ah so Nintendo plans to corner the 24-45 year old feminist, lesbian, and estranged wives market! Brilliant!

Re:Only good exclusives help

[Anonymous Coward]

If a console has the highest number of exclusive titles, but 90% of them suck, then it doesn't matter.

The console with the highest number of good exclusive titles will have the advantage. Given Nintendo's history of making most of its own exclusive titles, and designing them in such a way that they seem "too childish" to most gamers, I'm betting the Wii's lead won't help them that much.

The Wii will only win if Nintendo can successfully overcome the American audience's perception that Nintendo is "for kids". Having the cheapest console on the market, with magic flying dildos for controllers, isn't going to help.

The Wiimote looks like a remote control for the average TV/DVD player, so I really don't want to know what you do to your TV remote ...

Anyways, good (relative term that is meaningless) console exclusives have never mattered too much in the videogame world; it can be argued that Sony (over the past 2 generations) has produce less revolutionary exclusive games for their consoles but has remained dominant mainly due to the preception of a greater library of games. From the begining Sony attracted a lot of exclusive shoveware that was not avaiable anywere else, which meant that when parents were looking to buy their children a Dora The Explorer game (or when teens were looking for a homoerotic wrestling game) they bought a Playstation product. Sony is losing this advantage because the cost of development on a PS3 title is too large for most of these shovelware developers; they are now producing a lot of crap for the Wii which will give it the apearance of having a more diverse library than the PS3 even though you wouldn't want to play these games.

Re:Only good exclusives help

[earthbound kid]

If a console has the highest number of exclusive titles, but 90% of them suck, then it doesn't matter.

Um, Playstation much? I mean, I know 1996 was a looong time ago, but to remember how crappy 90% of PS1 games were compared to N64 games, you don't have to think back that far, you can just go to the games section of any pawn shop or thrift store and see rack after rack of games that quite obviously suck so hard you wonder how on earth they were ever produced.

The fact is that in every generation, the machine with the most games wins, period. So near as I can tell, it does not matter much if those games are good or bad. Look at the Game Boy: it bested competitor after competitor on the strength of its library and its battery life, vastly inferior graphics be damned. Similarly, the DS is beating the PSP not just because it has a crazy stylus, but also because the PSP has very few games.

If you want to predict the sales of a console, what matters most is the number of games published for it, nothing else.

Re:Only good exclusives help

[justchris]

Normally I would agree with you. I remember looking for games to rent for the n64 and PS1 at the same time, and having to trawl through hordes of dreck to find one decent PS1 game, and looking for a few seconds to find something to play on n64. PS2 has a much better signal to noise ratio than PS1 ever did, but it's still pretty bad, the sheer amount of crap that exists for the console. Over 1000 games, and less than 100 are safe to touch.

However, this doesn't prove out, as there are actually more PSP games than their are DS games currently. The differnce is only like, 20 games, so that may have something to do with it, but there are more PSP games than DS games. On the other hand, there are more DS games planned for release this year than PSP games, so shortly they will reach equilibrium, and likely the DS will surpass the PSP, all because it is 'perceived' as the better system.

Re:Only good exclusives help

[mechapanda]

That's just utter crap. This board is worse than IGN for fan boy ravings.

The console with the largest number of games PEOPLE WANT TO PLAY wins.

There were some crappy games on the PS1 but also on every other console - hell the worst game ever made for the Dreamcast has me as a character, it's that bad!
The difference was that when FFVII came out, everyone I met in Tokyo who didn't have a PS1, bought one, it's that simple. From high school girls to Taxi drivers.
There is nothing in the Wii line up that an non-Nintendo fan would be interested in. Another Pokemon game? People will be queueing round the block. The xbox might have a 100 exclusive titles, but they will all be pants - or they wouldn't be created for the xbox in the first place.

I really don't give a monkeys who makes my console, I just want good games to play on it, and on that list every single one of interest is on the PS3. Oh and I get to install MythTV and use it as a set top box to replace that wheezing old xbox - oh ok PS3 for me then.

Re:Only good exclusives help

[earthbound kid]

Hmm, is that so? It sure feels like there are more DS games, or at least it felt that way when I was living in Japan (until this August). Of course, that might explain why the DS is doing incredibly well in Japan and only pretty well in the States: Japanese developers released a bunch of junky DS games (-> big hardware sales) but didn't bother to translate them for the US market (-> medium hardware sales).

Re:Only good exclusives help

[justchris]

Actually, that's likely true. There are a lot of DS games available in Japan that have never been localised for other markets. Most notably the Simple Series of games by...umm, D3 I think. They put out cheap, fun little games like Bowling (literally, that was the name of the game) at budget prices. If I had to estimate, I'd say there are probably about 33% more DS games available in Japan than there are in the US, which may explain why the DS sells 120k units a week minimum.

Re:Only good exclusives help

[Fozzyuw]

Actually, what you discribe is caused by 2 reasons I know of...

• Superiour sales of a console.
• Much easier / cheaper to produce a game for a console.

In the case of the NES (Nintendo Entertainment System... yes, the 'first' one), Nintendo squized 3rd party support for all kinds of nickels and dimes to produce a game on their system... only, no matter what crap they made, it was going to make a profit (well, almost always), simply due to the fact that EVERYONE had a NES. This doesn't mean everyone would buy the game, but rental stores at the time would pretty much stock a game and the large stores would stock multiple copies. In a way, it was turning into a scam after a while. produce a cheap crappy game, market it well, and sit back and let the 'bling' roll in.

With the case of the PSOne, Sony went and made it EASY for 3rd parties to make a game on their system. They need to take the market share of Nintendo away, who had redicoulous license fees. They had made it simple and cheap to make a game, therefor, everyone and their mother started making games. Of course, the first few games where really quite good on the PSOne. The PSOne was selling well, and soon, it reaches a point where it's also profitable to make a crappy game on the PSOne as it was on the NES and Super NES. Now, you combine cheap licenses (though they got more expensive as the PSOne sold more) and a well penatrated console, and you got yourself a playground for endless games of crap, with a few real winners in-between.

Of course, since the PS2 and the N64/GameCube, game developement costs have skyrocketed. Millions of dollars are spent on making a game. You can no longer just code a game up in your basement, so to speak, and be given a license to print money. That's why we're seeing more generally 'decent' games while seeing less crap, compared to the PSone and (late)NES days. That's also the same reason why you rarely see 'new' or 'original' titles. Because it's too risky to try something new and money is poured into 'safe' things like franchise titles and sequels to smash hits.... not unlike the Hollywood formula.

Cheers,
Fozzy

Re:Only good exclusives help

[c0d3h4x0r]

To whomever marked my post as a "Troll":

It's not a troll. I didn't write it to try to get a rise out of anyone, and I don't personally dislike the Wii or its controller. My point is entirely valid: the American consumer public has already shown time and time again that they look down on gimmicky controllers (power glove? U-force? Bueller? Bueller?). "Flying magic dildos" accurately describes how the American public will deprecatingly think about the Wii upon first glance, and the Wii isn't doing anything (so far) to really counter that stigma. Sure, when you try a Wii, you may discover the control system isn't a gimmick and actually works well, but you have to be willing enough to risk looking stupid to even pick it up and try it. A lot of people wouldn't even get over that and be willing to try it.

Re:Only good exclusives help

[c0d3h4x0r]

To whomever marked my second post as "Flamebait":

I'd love to know in what alternate universe a calmly-delivered legitimate line of logical thought constitutes "Flamebait".

Oh, wait, that's right -- it's the Slashdot universe, where anything negative said about any company beloved by fanboys is automatically mis-moderated as either "Troll" or "Flamebait".

Re:Only good exclusives help

[hmccabe]

"with magic flying dildos for controllers"
"teens were looking for a homoerotic wrestling game"

I'm a music major, so I never took any business classes. To whom would I speak if I wanted to sell a game idea to a software company?

Re:Only good exclusives help

[ookaze]

The fact is that in every generation, the machine with the most games wins, period

I can agree with that only if you mean that havnig the most games is the consequence of the console winning.
If what you said was true, no new console could win against older ones.
The XBox360 would be sure to win too, which seems doubtful to me.

So near as I can tell, it does not matter much if those games are good or bad. Look at the Game Boy: it bested competitor after competitor on the strength of its library and its battery life, vastly inferior graphics be damned. Similarly, the DS is beating the PSP not just because it has a crazy stylus, but also because the PSP has very few games

Again, this is a consequence.
Sorry but, looking at the japanese charts, I see good PSP games (Gundam ones for example) do as well as good DS games the first week, I never see crappy games go to these levels on any of the DS or PSP. Even good GBA games (FFV advance) go to these levels. After the first week, the console market kicks in.
And these good games do 100x sales of the crappy or normal ones. So that you think it does not matter is wrong.
And those are what makes the console sell. When New SMB came out, the sales of DSL nearly doubled on the same week in Japan !!

If you want to predict the sales of a console, what matters most is the number of games published for it, nothing else

BS. Sales of these games are important too.
Again, what you say is wrong, as PS2 sales (games and console) is destroying next-gen XBox360 in Japan, when NO XBox360 game make it to the top 50 chart.
Do you mean then, that no Wii nor PS3 will sell ?
I have high doubts about that. I predict the Wii and PS3 will destroy the XBox360 in Japan.
Now count the number of instant hits made by japanese and american companies.
OK, now remove the japanese companies for the XBox360 (due to low sales) and do the math.

Coupled with this...

[GweeDo]

Watch these and tell me you don't want to try the console out. These people honestly look like they are just having fun. Some of these also really made me understand the possibilities for the casual gamer with this system.

Re:Coupled with this...

[Anonymous Coward]

The first thing that I thought of seeing those videos is the possibility of introducing my grandmother to the system. The motion needed to play tennis and the bowling games should help with physical therapy. I wonder if a weighted controller would be available.

Jim

Re:Coupled with this...

[OmegaBlac]

These people honestly look like they are just having fun.

Just like the people in those "I have congenital herpes" commercials I bet. Of course reality may not match what you see in videos or ads. Marketing droids would have multiple orgasm daily if all consumers thought exactly like you about promotional videos and the products they are trying to sell.

Re:Coupled with this...

[Dorceon]

The people in those herpes commercials are always kayaking. I'd be disinfecting the kayak rental store right about now.

Re:Coupled with this...

[earthbound kid]

My big complaint is people in herpes commercials are always going on dates!!

There are two possible conclusions from this:

1.) Be careful who you date.

2.) Tired of being single? Get herpes, then you can finally start taking longs walks on the beach!

Re:Coupled with this...

[NineNine]

Uuuh... OK. Looks like a cheap gimmick to me. I predict that this will be what sinks Nintendo. I personally think it's going to one of the biggest flops in gaming history. I'd put hard money on that, in fact.

Re:Coupled with this...

[neonstz]

I'm in for $100. If it flops, you win. If it is a success, I win.

Re:Coupled with this...

[NineNine]

Cool. How are we gonna determine whether it's a "flop" or a "success"?

Re:Coupled with this...

[neonstz]

One way is whether Nintendo makes any money or not on the Wii (within a reasonable timeframe).

Re:Coupled with this...

[Hes Nikke]

One way is whether Nintendo makes any money or not on the Wii (within a reasonable timeframe).

By that metric, Nintendo has already won. They're going to sell the Wii with actual markup, rather than taking a loss like Sony and Microsoft, and all signs point to stock shortage.

I'm going to take a turn at predicting the future of the video game market. Nintendo is going to P0wn the FPS market in the next generation. The wiimote has the potential to make FPSs more playable than keyboards/mice. Just watch this video to get an idea what FPSs'll be like on the Wii.

Re:Coupled with this...

[ChildeRoland]

I'm not sure that Red Steel is the best example for what an FPS can do on the Wii. From the most recent reviews I've read the bounding box that the cursor is in is way too big. The only way to turn your character is to move the cursor to the edges of this box. As long as both this and the sensitivity are adjustable I think that there are great possibilites for this game. For my money, I'll wait till I can play a demo to say if it'll work or not.

Re:Coupled with this...

[Anonymous Coward]

About your Sig, I didn't know there was a console by the name of 'Woah' *me ducks* ;)

Re:Coupled with this...

[MobileTatsu-NJG]

"By that metric, Nintendo has already won. They're going to sell the Wii with actual markup, rather than taking a loss like Sony and Microsoft, and all signs point to stock shortage."

Well... no.. it's not as simple as that. If Nintendo builds 6 million machines and only sells 2 million, they'll lose money. They'll also have to recoup all the money they spent on developing and marketing the machine.

I'm just being needlessly nitpicky, though. 'Success' would have to be defined. The GameCube was successful. It sold 20+ million machines and it made Nintendo a healthy profit. I have a harder time calling the XBOX successful. It didn't make Microsoft money, but they still had an impressive user base. The CD-I though...

Re:Coupled with this...

[Anonymous Coward]

Someone's been suckered in bigtime by the big Nintendo marketing engine.

How about trying them out first _yourself_ and then make your own mind up.

BTW, I find it odd that the official news on the PS3 Linux hasn't surfaced on SD. Must be the fanboy moderation element at play.

Re:Coupled with this...

[DrXym]

An immediate question from watching these people. Why is everybody standing up?

Re:Coupled with this...

[The-Bus]

Well, Nintendo just has a knack to hire extremely good actors I guess.

Re:Coupled with this...

[Anonymous Coward]

same with all the car commercials. You can't just tell an actor to be ecstatic all the time can you? I guess you can.

AC

BTW: You do know that not all of Ronco's inventions are revolutionary right? Nobody can be that good.

C'mon, Zonk,

[oscartheduck]

While I realise this isn't on topic entirely, I have to say this. Normally, I enjoy Zonk's postings here. They're gaming related a lot of the time, sometimes slanted in my preferences, sometimes not. But this looks like the laziest editing for a post I've ever seen. " with 23 of them are developed" "with 12 are made by Sony" and so on.
 
I understand that it may have been submitted by someone who doesn't speak English as a first language, or even someone who does speak English natively but doesn't understand the finer rules of grammar, but the editors are meant to fix this kind of thing.

PS3 Current Exclusives

[RichardMarks]

2K Games/Take-Two/Rockstar
* Red Dead Revolver 2 ~Rockstar North, TBA~
Atlus
* Shin Megami Tensei 4 ~Atlus R&D1, TBA~
Capcom
* Devil May Cry 4 ~Capcom Studio 1, Q4 2007~
* Monster Hunter 3 ~Capcom Studio 1, 2008~
Eidos
* Age of Conan ~Funcom, Q3 2007~
* Untitled ~Action~ ~TBD, TBA~
Koei
* Blade Storm: Hundred Years War ~Omega Force, 2007~
* Fatal Inertia ~Koei Canada, 2007~
* Mahjong Taikai IV ~In-house, Nov. 22~
* Ni-Oh ~In-house, 2007~
Konami
* Bomberman ~Hudson, TBA~
* Coded Arms: Assault ~KCET, 2007~
* Gradius VI ~TBD, TBA~
* Mahjong Fight Club ~TBD, Launch~
* Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots ~Kojima Productions, Q4 2007~
* Rengoku: The End of the Century ~Hudson, TBA~
* Untitled ~RPG~ ~TBD, TBA~
* Untitled ~RPG~ ~Hudson, TBA~
Midway
* Unreal Tournament 2007 ~Epic, 2007~
Namco Bandai
* Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire ~BEC, Launch~
* Ridge Racer 7 ~In-house, Launch~
* Tekken 6 ~In-house, 2007~
* Untitled ~Anime Project~ ~TBD, TBA~
* Untitled ~Mech Action~ ~TBD, TBA~
* Untitled ~RPG~ ~TBD, TBA~
* Untitled ~Shooter~ ~TBD, TBA~
* Untitled ~Sports~ ~TBD, TBA~
Nippon Ichi Software
* Makai Wars ~In-house, TBA~
Sega Sammy
* Fifth Phantom Saga ~Sonic Team, TBA~
* Full Auto 2: Battlelines ~Pseudo, Launch~
* Guilty Gear BB ~Arc System Works, TBA~
* Miyazato Sega Golf Club ~AM1, Launch~
* Virtua Fighter 5 ~AM2, Q1 2007~
* Untitled ~RPG~ ~Obsidian, TBA~

Re:PS3 Current Exclusives

[ConfusedSelfHating]

Untitled ~RPG~ ~TBD, TBA~

I can't wait until this comes out!

Re:PS3 Current Exclusives

[OmegaBlac]

* Untitled ~Shooter~ ~TBD, TBA~

For a second there I thought this was Duke Nukem Forever! ;)

Re:PS3 Current Exclusives - Part 2

[RichardMarks]

Sony Computer Entertainment
* Afrika ~Rhino Studios, 2007~
* Angel Rings ~Japan Studio, TBA~
* Ape Escape 4 ~Japan Studio, TBA~
* Blast Factor ~Bluepoint, TBA~ (PNP Download)
* Eight Days ~London Studio, TBA~
* The Eye of Judgment ~Japan Studio, Q1 2007~
* flOw ~thatgamecompany, TBA~ (PNP Download)
* Formula One 06 ~Studio Liverpool, Dec. 2006~
* Genji: Days of the Blade ~Game Republic, Launch~
* Getaway ~Team Soho, TBA~
* Go Sudoku ~TBA, TBA~ (PNP Download)
* Gran Turismo 5 ~Polyphony Digital, 2008~
* Gran Turismo: HD ~Polyphony Digital, TBA~
* Gretzky NHL '07 ~Page 44, TBA~
* Heavenly Sword ~Ninja Theory, Q1 2007~
* Hot Shots Golf 5 ~Clap Hanz, Q2 2007~
* Killzone ~Guerrilla, 2008~
* Lair ~Factor 5, Q2 2007~
* Lemmings 2 ~TBA, TBA~ (PNP Download)
* Monster Kingdom: Unknown Realms ~Game Republic, 2007~
* Motorstorm ~Evolution, Q4 2006~
* My Summer Vacation 3 ~Japan Studio, Q2 2007~
* NBA '07 ~SCE San Diego, TBA~
* Ratchet & Clank: Next ~Insomniac, TBA~
* Resistence: Fall of Man ~Insomniac, Launch~
* SingStar ~London Studio, Q4 2006~
* Siren ~Japan Studio, TBA~
* Swizzleblocks ~TBA, TBA~ (PNP Download)
* Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom ~SOE, Q4 2006~
* Warhawk ~Incognito, Q2 2007~
* White Knight Story ~Level 5, Q4 2007~
* World Tour Soccer '07 ~London Studio, TBA~
* Untitled ~Action~ ~Media Molecule, TBA~
* Untitled ~Adventure~ ~Naughty Dog, 2007~
* Untitled ~MMORPG~ ~SOE Austin, TBA~
Square Enix
* Densha de GO! Online ~Taito, TBA~
* Extreme ~Taito, TBA~
* Final Fantasy XIII ~PDD1, 2007~
* Final Fantasy Versus XIII ~PDD1, 2008~
* Project Psychic ~Taito, TBA~
* Railfan ~Taito/Ongakukan, Dec. 21~
* Untitled ~MMORPG~ ~PDD3, TBA~
Tecmo
* Ninja Gaiden: Sigma ~Team Ninja, 2007~
* Untitled ~Action-Adventure~ ~TBD, TBA~
Misc. (No publisher)
* Mercenaries 2: World of Flames ~Pandemic, TBA~
* Redwood Falls ~Kuju, TBA~
* WarDevil: Enigma ~Digi-Guys, TBA~

Re:PS3 Current Exclusives - Part 3

[RichardMarks]

Artdink
* Aquanote no Kyujitsu: Inner Mind Adventure ~TBA~
* Untitled ~Simulation~ ~TBA~

AQ Interactive
* Untitled ~Action RPG~ ~cavia, TBA~

Banpresto
* Super Robot Taisen ~TBA~

Enterbrain
* Derby Stallion ~TBA~

Genki
* Wangan Midnight ~Q2 2007~
* Untitled ~Samurai Fighting~ ~TBA~

Gust
* Untitled ~RPG~ ~TBA~

Hamster
* Untitled ~Simulation~ ~TBA~

Idea Factory
* Shinten Makai VI ~TBA~
Interchannel
* Untitled ~Love Adventure~ ~TBA~

Irem Software
* Untitled ~Action-Adventure~ ~TBA~

Marvelous Interactive
* Mahjong Oh ~Warashi, TBA~
* Untitled ~Action~ ~TBA~

Michaelsoft
* Project D ~TBA~

Spike
* Sengoku 23KU ~Acquire, TBA~
* Way of the Samurai 3 ~Acquire, TBA~

Success
* Hitsuji Mura ~TBA~
* Untitled ~RPG~ ~TBA~

Sunrise Interactive
* Shinseiki GPX Cyber Formula ~TBA~
* Sunrise Eiyuutan ~TBA~

Takuyo
* AKARI Project ~TBA~
* MASTER Project ~TBA~

Exclusive != Original

[OmegaBlac]

When you adjust the amount of exclusive games on the Xbox 360 for its one year head start, the Wii has more original games coming out for it.

Uh, when did exclusive mean that a game is original? And I hope we don't think that Wii versions of the same old Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon, and StarFox games are original? Funny that people complain about EA and their sports games being unoriginal, but Nintendo has a tendancy to use the same characters with a slightly different plot and no one criticizes them for a lack of innovation in games. Mario has been whored out into every possible genre that you can think of.

Re:Exclusive != Original

[Purity Of Essence]

I suspect you're just trolling, but I'll bite. With very few exceptions each Nintendo "sequel" features innovation in gameplay over its predecessors. And Mario being "whored out into every possible genre that you can think of" doesn't really fit in with your conjecture that the games are the all the same.

Re:Exclusive != Original

[XMultiply]

That's a bad comparison. Yes, Mario, Metroid, Zelda etc.. have been rehashed over and over again by Nintendo, but at least they are actually different games, each unique in their own right. Mario may be the star of a game, but at least you're playing something completely different then the last time his name was on a game. EA Sports titles usually have added features to the same ol' engine for a number of years. It's quite common to read EA Sports Reviews that tend to say "not much has changed from last year except...".

Re:Exclusive != Original

[BKX]

Mario has been whored out into every possible genre that you can think of.

Exactly. Mario has been used in completely different ways with different storylines throught out his life (you know what I mean by his life). Mario is really a brand. Everytime he appears, it's in a new game with a different story and new style of gameplay. EA Sports games on the other hand are the same game with better graphics and updated rosters. Other than that the differences are incremental and unoriginal.

You can't say that Mario games are unoriginal just because they used the same set of characters over again. That'd be like saying Shakespear was unoriginal for writing with the Latin alphabet.

Re:Exclusive != Original

[NineNine]

with a different story and

Are you serious? Do you consider "Mario the plumber stomps evil Goombas with his dingbat to resuce the super-happy-lucky princess from the evil Watu-Watoosie?" to be a "story"? Grand Theft Auto has a story. God of War definitely has a story. Max Payne has a story. Mario (and other games in the genre, like Zelda, Metroid, etc.) is made up of some unintelligible, badly-translated Japanese children's fairy tale, which you have to be either no more than 4 years old, or dumb as a rock to actually be able to "follow" and enjoy.

Saying that Mario games have a "story" is like saying Vin Diesel movies have a "plot".

Re:Exclusive != Original

[justchris]

I'll give you that Mario games don't have a story. In fact, they intentionally don't have a story, as that detracts from the focus on gameplay. Well, with the exception of Mario RPG, Paper Mario, Paper Mario: TYD, Mario & Luigi and Mario & Luigi: PiT. Those all had actual story, but we'll ignore that for now.

But Zelda and Metroid in fact have a lot of story. The 1000 or so internet sites dedicated to nothing else than determining the timeline of the universe and discussing the minutia of every single character prove that, while the flow of storytelling isn't novelisation quality, the stories themselves are both interesting and fairly complex, with excellent characterisation, and imaginative and original setting. The last being something GTA does not have.

Also, Metroid, Zelda & Mario are 3 completely different genre's. Metroid is Action (or FPA in the case of Metroid Prime), Zelda is Adventure and Mario is Platformer (except the kart/sport/rpg/dancing games).

Re:Exclusive != Original

[MobileTatsu-NJG]

"Funny that people complain about EA and their sports games being unoriginal, but Nintendo has a tendancy to use the same characters with a slightly different plot and no one criticizes them for a lack of innovation in games."

I love when this argument comes up. Heh.

Compare SMB 1, 2, and 3 to Sonic 1, 2, and 3. Superficially they're very similar, but play-wise, you have to totally re-adjust to play any of those three games. Try playing Mario 3 then go back to Mario 1. Ouch. The original Sonic trilogy felt like a few expansion levels were added. Blah blah blah.

You're confusing the terms sequel and franchise. You cannot do that if you wish to understand what has made Nintendo consistently successful over the years.

Re:Exclusive != Original

[twosmokes]

That'd be like saying Shakespear was unoriginal for writing with the Latin alphabet.

It'd be more like if 1/3 of all Shakespeare stories had Romeo and Juliet in them. Do you think Shakespeare would still hold up if he couldn't be bothered to come up with something new to write about?

Re:Exclusive != Original

[BKX]

True, but a lot of the best writers wrote whole series with the same characters. Those are widely considered original and lauded heavily, even by the most stuck up of literary geeks. Think Star Wars, Star Trek and Asimov. And also realize that Shakespear really was just rewriting older works from Greece and Rome in an updated, more modern (for the time) style.

If all Mario games looked about the same and just had slightly different graphics and different levels with exactly the same style of gameplay, then I would agree that Mario is unoriginal. But that's not the case. Mario 3 was significantly different from Mario 1. Super Mario World for SNES was completely different from Mario 3. The only thing each of the Mario games share is the (sparse) backstory and general look of the characters.

And, what do you think about Megaman. Personally, I think the Megaman series (all five of them) are about the best around. But are they original? I don't really think so. The gameplay is pretty much unchanged from the first one. The story lines are incremental and nearly the same from game to game. Megaman is definitely unoriginal. Does it really matter? I don't think it does.

Re:PS3 Current Exclusives - 104 Total

[RichardMarks]

If my quick sum is correct.

Question

[Anonymous Coward]

Should Twlight Princess even count?

Huh?

[Anonymous Coward]

The Playstation 3 only has a few exclusive games at the moment; 29 are third-party, with 12 are made by Sony. Meanwhile Microsoft has 48 Xbox 360 exclusive games, with 23 of them are developed internally. However it looks like the real winner for exclusive games is the Wii. There are 39 titles only for the Wii and even ported games are going to play differently.

So...

29 + 12 = only 41 PS3 exclusives

XB360 has 48 exclusives

Wii has 39.

Is the fact that 48 > 41 > 39 really that big a difference to jump to conclusions over who has more exclusive content..?

Re:Huh?

[jpardey]

I read the title for the article, and I thought "I wonder if this is Zonk's article." Turned out it was, so of course the Wii's 39 games mean more than the PS3's 41. Also, the Xbox360 has been available for what, a year? I would expect a few exclusive games by now. Looks to me like Sony will have the most games (as they have in the last two generations, if I recall correctly) followed by Microsoft and Nintendo. Still, who knows, with the PS3's high price tag, more game companies might end up going to Xbox360, even without a guarenteed hard drive and small optical drive.

If you want to mod me troll, please, read the summary and tell me that 41 > 39 isn't flaimbait.

Re:Huh?

[badboy_tw2002]

The summary doesn't match the article either, which says "35 for sony, 18 of them in house."

The real thing to think about are titles that _aren't_ going to Wii but _are_ going to PS3/360. The big one that comes to mind right off the bat is GTA 4 (hate it, love it, its going to be a huge title). I'm wondering if the Wii's percieved underperformance will cause devs to shy away and have "next-gen" mean 360/PS3 only.

Also, is this article really a surprise to anyone? Nintendo always has the strongest 1st party titles because they have the strongest lineup of characters and games people love.

Re:Huh?

[EmperorKagato]

"I'm wondering if the Wii's percieved underperformance will cause devs to shy away and have "next-gen" mean 360/PS3 only."

Are you a developer?

Re:Huh?

[jpardey]

I would think that the devs will do no such things, but their higher ups in PR, to make the games seem more mature, would not be as likely to have the developers make the games for the Wii. However, everyone remembers Goldeneye 64. I mean, even I remember it, and I have never owned a console. I think the main thing, as everyone says, is Nintendo's licensing.

Personally I would want (if I could afford it) a PS3. It's not just about the graphics. It's about Linux, a hard drive on the "cheap" model, GTA IV, the cell processor, a large capacity optical drive, and yeah, what look to be the best graphics of any of the systems.

Re:Huh?

[Anonymous Coward]

A rational arguement on Slashdot? A supporter for Sony that isn't modded to hell and back? You sir, are a King among Slashdottians.

If I could, I'd mod you up

Re:Huh?

[DrXym]

The XBox 360 has been out for a year so of course it has a lot of exclusives. Give the Wii and PS3 a year and they'll have a lot of exclusives too.

I'm not sure measurement of exclusives is necessarily a good way to compare systems anyway. The GameCube had a disproportionate number of exclusives and not for a good reason. In the GameCube's case it was because the system trailed into 3rd place and 3rd parties could not be bothered with it. Even if the Wii takes off, it too will need a lot of exclusives, simply because the system is underpowered compared to the 360 or PS3 making porting unfeasible.

SeventhStar needs a dictionary

[ravenshrike]

38 exclusive games is a few? When the damned console isn't even out yet? Ohhhkay then.

Re:SeventhStar needs a dictionary

[VanillaBabies]

You make a good point, as of right now the PS3 has 0 games, and 0 of them are exclusive. You've got a good head on your shoulders.

Re:SeventhStar needs a dictionary

[salle_from_sweden]

Are you sure it isn't a math lesson, couse isn't 29+12=41 (which would have been more than the wii's amount and wii was supposed to be the winner, although it still had less than x360) and the number of sony's inhouse created games are 20 (or 18 if you're picky).

Besides I count to 49 games x360 games in the article (48 if we don't count xbox live arcade unplugged), ps3 had 35 (with 20 made by sony and sony online studios), wii had 38

So the sumary had alot of factual errors.

on a side note: I think they were right not including things like mahjong into the release titles. Nor the back cataloge of games playable on these systems, because what they wanted to count was games that are unique to these consoles, and you can play ps2 games on a ps2 which is notably cheeper to buy than a ps3.

Play mechanics change more

[tepples]

Nintendo has a tendancy to use the same characters with a slightly different plot

And a greatly changed play mechanic. Does Mario Kart DS play anything like New Super Mario Bros.?

Re:Play mechanics change more

[OmegaBlac]

And a greatly changed play mechanic. Does Mario Kart DS play anything like New Super Mario Bros.?

Maybe you should compare New Super Mario Bros. to the [b]endless[/b] line of Super Mario platform clones that Nintendo has released and continues to re-release. And what makes Mario Kart DS different than the previous incarnations of Mario Kart on their other systems?

Re:Play mechanics change more

[cowscows]

Honestly, I don't understand the hostility towards franchises. What's wrong with a company making sequels to succesful games? There's obviously a market for them. Nintendo practically defined the platformer with SMB, and their mario games are very consistently of high quality. If Rockstar games wants to keep improving their GTA series, good for them, it's been an excellent series of games, and I'm sure they can make it better. Valve can make FPS games for the next fifty years for all I care, as long as they continue to take their time and put out quality stuff. It doesn't even bother me that EA puts out a new madden each year. Let people buy it if they want it.

I'm a little less enamored with other companies jumping onto whatever the hot genre bandwagon is and putting out a crappy clone really quickly.

Exploded Executives?

[Stardo]

Am I the only one who read this as "Next-Gen Console Executives Exploded"? It's been a long day...

Happy, happy, happy!

[Anonymous Coward]

Wow! I can finally buy happiness!

I mean, time and again companies show my how happy other people are using their products, but I never seem to get the same happiness they portray. What could be wrong with me, or perhaps I'm not getting the same product that they were happy to own. Do these companies switch their products on me, selling me one that doesn't make people happy, while showing off the ones that do?

But this one, I believe it's real. I trust that when Nintendo shows me that people who use their product are happy, it has to be true. I'll be happy for sure, this time.

I mean, what else could make them that happy? They couldn't possibly be that happy about the money they,re getting paid to look happy, since we all know money doesn't make people happy. The Wii will do it, oh yes. Just look at them, happy as can be. I so want to be happy like that. I so want to get a Wii.

I'm so pwned by marketing.

Kart != Party != Dr. != Golf != Tennis != DDR

[tepples]

Maybe you should compare New Super Mario Bros. to the endless line of Super Mario platform clones that Nintendo has released and continues to re-release.

So far, there have been only eight Super Mario 2D platform games: SMB1, SMB2, SMB3, SML, SMW, SML2, Yoshi's Island, and a long gap until NSMB. (Does Super Princess Peach count?) There have been twice that many Mega Man games on TV consoles alone.

And what makes Mario Kart DS different than the previous incarnations of Mario Kart on their other systems?

The difference is that it's released less often than, say, Electronic Arts' Madden franchise that uses pretty much the same NFL characters from game to game (modulo rookies and retirees). The 2D Mario Kart games (SMK and MKSC) also play much differently from the 3D games (MK64, MKDD, and MKDS).

And what makes Mario Kart anything like Mario Party or Dr. Mario or Mario's Picross or Mario Golf or Mario Power Tennis or DDR: Mario Mix or Mario vs. DK 2: March of the Lemmings^W Minis or Super Mario Strikers or Mario & Luigi? Just because a game takes place in a given universe doesn't make it a clone. In fact, universes are orthogonal to clones, as it appears no two Tetris games have the same characters.

Actually

[brkello]

as it stands now, the XBOX 360 is 100% exclusive titles :P (minus ports of previous gen games of course)

Re:Actually

[KDR_11k]

And let's not forget the PC games.

Re:Actually

[Anonymous Coward]

Minus most of the games that come out for it?
If you don't count all of the non-exclusive titles, the 360 has 100% exclusive titles. That's what you're trying to sell me, right?

You're right...

[NineNine]

... if you're 12 years old. All of those titles you list make me POSITIVE I don't want a "Whee" or whatever it's called.

Re:You're right...

[Anonymous Coward]

Congratulations for that original and witty remark. I'm sure you're looking forward to the day that you become 12 (only six more years) and start liking these games.

Re:You're right...

[Anonymous Coward]

Because once you hit 13, a game isn't fun if you're not killing hookers.

What i see

[hurfy]

I see a pretty large chunk for each of them.

Might be interesting, i didnt know that many were exclusives on ps3 and 360.

*assuming exclusive means exclusive

A note to the publishers:

Sales would not be hurt by having a name that is pronouncable should one want to go to a store and like ASK for it ;)

Miyasato Miyoshi Kyoudai Naizou: Sega Golf Club

WTF? Thank god for subtitles eh ;)
There was a Wii title that sounded like my cat hacking up a furball too.

Re:What i see

[AcidLacedPenguiN]

those non-pronouncable ones are (here's a hint) going to be released in Japan. JAAA-PAN. A place to the west of North America (or very far east, depending on how you look at it) where people can pronounce those names because they speak Japanese. I know it's a tough concept, but keep going to school and you too may grasp it some day.

They don't interest me

[PopeRatzo]

The titles you mention all sound like old-fashioned cartoon games to me. That's not a bad thing, and there's lots of nostalgia about old Nintendo about now, but it just doesn't give me cause to look forward to the Wii.

However, I'm glad to see that these console games are becoming more differentiated from more serious-minded games for the PC. I don't really care for the idea that everyone lumps all tech-games in the same category. Donkey Kong and Black and White don't exist in the same galaxy, and Eve-Online and Pokémon don't inhabit the same universe.

That's a good thing, but no Wii for me, thanks. Someone else can have my allottment.

Re:They don't interest me

[Anonymous Coward]

I take it that you've never played any Metroid game, at all. There's nothing "cartoonish" about it. You've been swallowing the anti-Nintendo FUD too much.

Also, you're right that PC games are more serious-minded. I mean, there's no moaning and bitching and low-end social crap going on in World of Warcraft.... right?

As for your Wii allottment... this ain't a PS3. Everyone who wants afford a Wii should be able to get one within the first week of release.

Re:They don't interest me

[donaldm]

I think people have to decide which gaming next gen machine (or machines) they are going to get, when they are going to get it and what games they expect to run on them. Not everyone likes First Person Shooters or even Role Playing Games for that matter. Some people like photo realism while others like cartoony style games. There are so many styles and types of games out there now and it really comes down to what you really like and enjoy playing.

Personally I have always liked the Metroid and Zelda series while not caring for Pokemon, Mario or Donkey Kong. I also like many PlayStation games, some IMHO are rubbish but there are many that are not. However it is rare for me to like PC or Xbox games. Still what I like and don't like may be different to other people's likes and dislikes.

Exclusive games can actually sell a console initially but when there is not much difference in the so called exclusive game to another similar but different game on a different console then choosing a console becomes harder and that is were backwards compatibility comes in at least for a time.

Errrr... Your going to loose lots of money

[technoextreme]

Uuuh... OK. Looks like a cheap gimmick to me. I predict that this will be what sinks Nintendo. I personally think it's going to one of the biggest flops in gaming history. I'd put hard money on that, in fact.

No offense but the Wii's control system in some ways can almost be thought as the same type for the DS so much so that Trauma Center and WarioWare has it's own version for the Wii. The wand is the substitue for the stylus. The DS was seen as a cheap gimmic but see where it is now. Couple that with a great lineup as opposed to crapticular for the DS and well you are going to loose.

Re:PS3 Current Exclusives - 104 Total

[justchris]

It isn't. Untitled projects cannot be counted because they don't exist. Until it has a title, the chances of it ever existing are stil pretty small, unless it's already been determined to be a franchise game. Even after it has a title, it still doesn't exist.

Secondly, how can you count Bomberman or any Sudoku game as being exclusive? Go ahead, name one system since the release of the PS1 that has not had Bomberman on it? The Ngage maybe? Or wait, didn't it have a copy of Bomberman?

Also, that list is every single announced game for the PS3, not just games scheduled between release and March 2007. If you extend the list for the 360 and Wii to every game announced for them, without regard for release date, you find that Wii & PS3 have about the same number of titles, and 360 is ahead by about 35 titles, which is what an extra year will get you.

Re:PS3 Current Exclusives - 104 Total

[RichardMarks]

"It isn't. Untitled projects cannot be counted because they don't exist."

Wrong.

Those titles are straight from the publishers themselves. Many of those games like the Naughty Dog title we already have released media from.

"Also, that list is every single announced game for the PS3, not just games scheduled between release and March 2007. "

Wrong.

All the non-exclusive PS3 titles were trimmed.

Re:PS3 Current Exclusives - 104 Total

[justchris]

"It isn't. Untitled projects cannot be counted because they don't exist."

Wrong.

Those titles are straight from the publishers themselves. Many of those games like the Naughty Dog title we already have released media from.

Would you like a list of titles that have names, video footage, even gameplay footage that never saw the light of day? Do I need even mention Duke Nukem Forever? A game can cease to exist at any point, and the fact remains that until it has a name, the chances of it being vaporware are much higher. To be honest, a name is no more proof of existence than video footage is, but we have to draw the line somewhere. "Also, that list is every single announced game for the PS3, not just games scheduled between release and March 2007. "

Wrong.

All the non-exclusive PS3 titles were trimmed.

...okay, let me rephrase that. That is every single announced exclusive game for the PS3. Although, there is no way to verify that each of the untitled games is exclusive, since several of those companies have announced untitled games for the 360 & Wii as well, in the same genre's. What proof do we have those aren't the same games?

Regardless, the fact remains the scope of the article was for a specific time period, and that list exceeds that time period. If you're going to go with that list, even including the untitled games, then you have to reasonably do the same for the other 2 ssytems, so you can't really compare that list to the list given by TFA, because you're not utilizing the same restrictions under which the article was operating.

Forgot one

[Joe The Dragon]

windows vista
Halo 2 pc

Not so much

[LuciferosX]

Key words are as follows: a year.

Re:PS3 Current Exclusives - Part 2

[Anonymous Coward]

Wardevil is not exclusive. From Gamespot's PS3 page:

There were also a couple of unexpected playable demos on the booth's elevated walkway. One was for WarDevil: Enigma, which appears to be the same game as the Xbox 360 WarDevil.

Mercenaries 2 will almost certainly be for the 360 as well.

Not all about exclusives

[Baldrake]

In that list, I didn't see a single game that would cause me to buy one console over another. The truth is, with a handful of exceptions, the best games get produced for all of the consoles. It will be interesting to see how well the non-exlusive games run on the different platforms.

My guess is that there will be little to differentiate the XBox 360 from the PS3, which would be bad news for Sony given the price differential. Nintendo has some opportunity if, for example, Madden is just plain more fun with a Wiimote.

But that list of mainly sad-sack games ain't gonna be what wins the war.

Re:Not all about exclusives

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm going to wager that you're argument is highly flawed. I have about two dozen GC and Xbox games, and about 3 dozen PS2 games. Out of those, the great majority of titles for each are console exclusive.

Let's take examples from what I'm playing right now. I'm playing through Pikmin 2 and Fire Emblem for the GC - both Nintendo titles, both exclusive. I've been going through Crimson Skies finally on the Xbox and I'm probably going to put some time in with Top Spin next - both exclusives. For the PS2, I've been jumping between Dynasty Tactics 2, Devil May Cry 3, and Zone of the Enders 2. All exclusive.

In the coming generation, unfortunately, I see very few games that I'd love to buy coming for more than one console. Assassin's Creed gives me a choice, but what else? GTA I've been tired of for a while, and there's no other huge franchises that'll be out on multiple consoles that I am itching for.

The Wii I will be buying for Legend of Zelda, and the promise of Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros. Brawl.
The Xbox360 I am interested in for Dead Rising, Mass Effect, and Halo 3.
The PS3 will be tempting (post price-drop) because of White Knight Story and Metal Gear Solid 4.

While there is plenty of talk about more development houses going multiplatform in the face of the skyrocketing development costs of the current generation, the best of the best remains platform dependent. Each console (unfortunately, since I was hoping to avoid buying all 3 this time) will have "killer apps" that will be unplayable anyplace else. Most of the ho-hum and mediocre will be playable on all platforms, like Madden and Marvel Ultimate Alliance.

console wars

[deadstatue]

number of games in this particular gen systems dont mean as much as they once did.not for hardcore gamers anyway.nintendo may have 1000 games at launch,but unless i can play all of them "old school"(as in no motion detection) i wont have anything to do with it. its a novel idea, seems fun but doesnt leave the door open for 12 hour zelda binges,without making your arms numb,which ive become very fond of over the years.