OpenSourcing Yourself, Are You Ready?
An anonymous reader writes "Many people love and use open source software. Open source has made an impact in just about every place imaginable; education, hardware, coke, beer, cell phones, pharmaceuticals, search engines and encyclopedias. However, OpenHuman takes it one step further and invites you to open source yourself to experiment with the open human idea. This may sound crazy and rife with privacy concerns but as the author asks, do you still believe in Internet privacy in the age of blogs, MySpace, LinkedIn, Meetup, and Flickr?"
So is MS a privacy advocate and the open source movement a privacy opponent?
Put your naked pictures (not pornographic or erotic, just naked)
uh..please no
"...do you still believe in Internet privacy in the age of blogs, MySpace, LinkedIn, Meetup, and Flickr?"
Yes I do. Of course, I make very sparing use of those technologies, and I post AC at Slashdot.
I would consider opensourcing myself, but I'm afraid I'd be immediately forked.
Yup. Open Source sure is great.
But what in the world does that have to do with a social website that encourages you to post naked photos of yourself?
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I plan on open sourcing my daily schedule. In this way, everyone gets to decide what I have for breakfast, what kind of shampoo I use, what kind of clothes to wear, and where I work. I've already started, I've been experimenting with running all of my personal correspondence through a "meWiki", which lets any member of the public edit every message I write before it gets sent out. TESTICLES.
The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
...And her name is Paris Hilton.
"do you still believe in Internet privacy in the age of blogs, MySpace, LinkedIn, Meetup, and Flickr?"
Yes, i do.
Thats the reason i dont have a blog, dont whore my photographs out to flicker, think myspace it a breeding experiment for retards and never heard of something called "meetup" before.
So i guess i dont really belong to the target demographics...
HI O WISE PRINCE. WHT TOOK U SO DAM LONG?
"An anonymous reader writes..."
Fabulous!
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
Crow T. Trollbot
Having my data in several different databases that don't work together or coordinate their data in any way makes me feel safer than having all my data in one database for everyone to easily access. Reminds me of MS Passport.
This is my sig. There are many like it but this one is mine.
Does this redefine the concept of Intellectual property? I mean do I get sued from anybody because I own a brain and the creative use of it?
I'm not sure I'd want to be the subject of a fork. I hear that can get you admitted.
"This may sound crazy and rife with privacy concerns but as the author asks, do you still believe in Internet privacy in the age
of blogs, MySpace, LinkedIn, Meetup, and Flickr?""
Uhhh, what? This is like saying "Why not just start murdering people? Come on, look at how full our jails are with murderers!". Granted that's a little extreme, but the justification for uploading a naked photo of myself is basically "everyone else is doing it!". No thanks.
Also, the site looks damn awful. Can anyone say "two-bit idea with even less design time"?
Is that so? I would have never guessed.
"Flee at once, all is discovered."
I dread the day that my workplace can read all my Slashdot posts.
This is my sig. There are many like it but this one is mine.
This time, I built it during the Halloween; actually this could be my first Halloween, because we don't celebrate it in Turkey
Wait until someone in turkey roll up some fake id & papers to use them in applying for $100.000 worth of credits in 3-4 banks. Or register a company in your name and do some fraud with it.
No joke - these things happen.
Might be a good and inventive idea for a scandinavian or a canada citizen, or in turkey, its suicide.
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From The Website:
# Put your naked pictures (not pornographic or erotic, just naked)
Guess they just want the bare essentials...
Have you read my journal today?
Open source has turned into a fad that's sweeping the nation! How about we call anything and everything open source so that we can appeal to that demographic and sell whatever products we want! Yay! Open Source Mac and Cheese! Open Source High-Top Sneakers!
Let's all share in the love of Richard Stallman and stop this trendy madness!
ALTERNATIVE FREEDOM
a documentary featuring Richard Stallman, Lawrence Lessig, Danger Mouse(of Gnarls Barkley), doesone and more!
Being open is good, if you can trust the person or the group. Being open does not create the needed trust. Unfortunately people don't always act in ways that promote trust. Many times people act in ways that are selfish and without regard and concern for others. We all have been selfish and uncaring at one time or another. That is why people make commitments and covenants with others so that safe places to openly share can be created and maintained.
There is NOTHING in the law that states that any web site actually has to abide by their privacy policy. I wish I could remember the website that was challenged on their privacy policy (they sold ALL of their user information: 2.4+ million hits on Google "judge rules against website privacy policy")and the Judge ruled in favor of the website - I.e. the privacy policy on a website isn't worth the paper it's written on! (Prove me wrong, please!) And, in this day nd age with the NSA, Homeland Security, CIA, War on Terror, War on Druge, Repulicans in Charge, do you really think that any law will stop them?
You wouldn't believe the number of "patches" my wife submits daily to "improve" me. Then my kids have their suggestions about how I can do everything better than I am. If I google my name thousands (literally) of hits come back, many of those are in response to RFC's caused by my asking questions or giving opinions on the net. It's a constant race to stay one e-mail address ahead of the spammers and my IM client is constantly in motion due to one customer passing my contact info on to another.
I'm sorry, I'm to tired to be witty at the moment so this message will have to do.
I got together with a like-minded open-source linuxchick some time ago and we produced a couple of extremely viable derivative works. Fortunately, neither one of us tried to exert control over the other's homegrown portion of either of those derivative works.
The trouble is that the derivative works are now starting to think about creating next-gen derivatives which has me sort of worried about whether they'll respect the ideals of the community or if they'll become sellouts like Novell...
Oh, well, I suppose we'll just have to wait and see...
Give a man a match: warm him for an instant. Douse him in petrol and set him aflame: warm him for the rest of his life.
Then you'd have to be OK with people improving you. Perhaps you'd look good in heels?
Engineering is the art of compromise.
Show me the DNA.
Where I come from, they call that "identity theft."
"Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
Our area employment offices are encouraging everyone to have an online portfolio. But not just a resume and work samples. They list about 50 things a person might consider -- including school transcripts. Should be interesting.
"Open source has made an impact in just about every place imaginable; education, hardware, coke, beer,"
Seriously. After joining the open source movement, I have encountered more free beer than ever before.
there is only what makes you look good and what helps you avoid looking bad (think of this in a wide context - unless you are living isolated from humans, it applies anywhere - personal life, professionally, socially, everywhere). If everything you ever did only resulted in you looking good for everyone else around you, would really need privacy? Conversely, if you could avoid looking bad in everything you do, would you still need privacy?
So if you have something you like to keep private - 99.999% of the time, it has to do with looking good or avoiding looking bad.
Sad but true.
'A lie if repeated often enough, becomes the truth.' - Goebbels
the entire concept is retarded.
"We will all get more and more open, this is inevitable."
It is? Since when? I am far more protective of my privacy now than I was in '95. Just because a vocal group of jackasses thinks the world wants to view their dirty laundry doesn't mean we all think the same.
there is no need to sign your posts. this isn't usenet. your username is right there above your post. stop it.
I liked this bit from the founder's own page: "I was having fun to suck batteries while I was a child! Then I've learned that it's very dangerous and can cause brain damages! I regret that!"
"Put your naked pictures (not pornographic or erotic, just naked)"
So when some teen follows that request, I see the FBI adding this guy to the 10 most wanted, even though he's in Turkey. Interpol will want to have "words" with this man someday.
Or worse, a Dateline special. "So when you invited young boys and girls to post their naked pictures, what were you thinking?:
Why are women so complicated? Find out how little I know here.
I liked your point about the extra effort we go to (and often feel we need) in order to have a place that we can trust is safe to share in. It's really spot-on. Having come from my cousin's wedding, maybe that's closer to the forefront of my mind.
:)
Mods, please mod the parent up!
...I'd gladly take the Microsoft way.
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do you still believe in Internet privacy in the age of blogs, MySpace, LinkedIn, Meetup, and Flickr?
Well, I don't use MySpace, I've never heard of LinkedIn, the Meetups that I tried to get involved in really sucked ass, and Flickr is one of those things that I've heard other people talking about but never gave a damn about. So, if that's the criteria on which to judge privacy, then, well, yeah, I believe in privacy a whole hell of a lot.
In terms of privacy, I'm more concerned with large corporate databases, RealID, data mining, tracking grocery purchases, my medical records, and my phone number and address. That's what privacy means to me. Fuck MySpace. MySpace is the exact opposite of privacy. Myspace is about all the stupid shit that people spout about themselves. It's about their PUBLIC face, not their PRIVATE one.
Blogs are also bad for your privacy, but is any of you against the blogs now?
Who wrote, this Ali fucking G?? "Is any of you against the blog? 'cuz I done laid a big blog down in the loo 'bout fiften minits ago, and I con still sniff it hee-yuh. Aiiiiii."
Open source, my ass!
this seems like the extension of Post Secret -- the open-secret-via-postcard-initiative. the game? people send their secrets via a meaningful postcard, as shown here: http://postsecret.blogspot.com/
If all of your personal information is publicly available, what happens to electronic commerce? Do our current norms of electronic commerce rely on certain information being "secret"? If all of my credit cards, social security numbers, and my mothers maiden names are available for anyone, would anyone dare to do business online with a person claiming to be "me"? What about public services, social security, child support, or medicaid? How would a government agency know if the person receiving the benefits was the "right" person?
On the other hand, could personal information be devalued to the point where nobody wants to collect it anymore?
Trying to use sarcasm in text-based forums does not work.
Um, could someone explain how the OpenHuman concept "takes it one step further"? The founder's own page seems less open than most myspace pages.
It seems fairly obvious that being "entirely open" is a really, really stupid idea. It has been known at least since the 6th Century BCE that your personal information (history, status, intentions, beliefs, etc.) can and will be used against you by others seeking power and your subjugation. To suceed in a world of conflict and competition at times requires deception: insuring that others cannot pin you down, that if they seek to manipulate you their efforts are based on misinformation. Are you going to include on your resume a link to a page that contains naked pictures of yourself, that cataglogs your personal problems and issues, and that details your secret fantasies? Sometimes it's best to just shut the hell up. If you really need to divulge everything about yourself, for therapeutic reasons or whatever, why not do it anonymously? Unless, of course, attaching this information to your real name is to your advantage somehow.
Clearly the "open" information provided by the site's founder has been prudently selected. To frame its presentation by saying "oh, i'm being 100% open -- this is the real me" is actually quite clever. A page like his might help him make contacts, show off his computer skills, get girls, etc. But it would be of no use to him if he included information about his sexual dysfunction, his absolute hatred for his family and pictures of his hairy ass.
Ludwig Wittgenstein
The idea of OpenHuman is still like a MUD. The "OpenHuman" person may or may not resemble the person entering the data, uploading the pictures, and answering the email.
Everyone (and no one) can be an action hero online.
Hmm.
Since when does "open source" mean...just posting random factoids about things? Does some list of facts about Linux, like who created it and when it was created, and for what purpose, mean the same thing as "open source"? Umm, no...it's just a bunch of facts.
Wouldn't "open sourcing" a human mean opening a database of DNA samples?
This site isn't open source, it's just narcissism.
gameDB
One of the things I've been listening to on my iPod is a recording of a talk given by the writer Quentin Crisp ("The Naked Servant") -- and by the sound of it, Crisp would have been a big fan of this idea. One of the things he discusses during the program is the idea that some of the greatest sources of human fear and unhappiness are secrecy, concealment, and outward conformity to popular culture because they rob us of our individuality and make us feel self-conscious and ashamed. I think he had a point! I don't know that I'm entirely up to it or ready for it myself -- at least not yet -- but I think it's an intriguing concept.
This seems way more creepy to me than anything else. It seems like someone got a dare to see how many people they could get to upload nude pics of themselves, and came up with this. It's like a stalker's wet dream.
and this is different from a plain old biography page how? I don't see the opensource in this, just the openness like on every blogging site.
That seems like an inherently bad idea.
Well I just got finished masturbating per the Internet's decree, let's take a poll and see what I should do next...
Hrm... The results are in and it looks like I'll be masturbating again. This sure is a great study.
You can publish every phone call you make as well.
Soo... it's nice to know there is a booming social site like openhuman.. What? With it's one user.
I think I busted google: site: openhuman.org
I post a lot about myself on the Internet under at least the creative content license. Esp on Wiki sites and forums.
I am a member of the Pirate Ninja party and we are pushing for open source of IP and information. We want to have works created under open source licenses to have an online library of books that can easily be revised as information changes. The Pirate Ninja party is all about change and adapting to change, unlike the other parties out there.
Remember, Slashdot does not have a -1 disagree moderation, and no, troll, flamebait, and overrated are not substitutes.
...do you still believe in Internet privacy in the age of blogs, MySpace, LinkedIn, Meetup, and Flickr?
Absolutely. And it's none of your business why.
Looks like the fun started without me.
http://openhuman.org/ben_d_meova
Wanna fight ? Bend over, stick your head up your ass, and fight for air.
I was having fun to suck batteries while I was a child!
ACMD eht detaloiv evah uoy
and your DoB, address, etc, and I'll make sure to keep your name on any derivative credit card or loan, preserving the spirit of the GPL.
I spend most of my time in bed, darling.
You got it, Anonymous Coward (distant cousin of Noel Coward)
... except when it really counts".
This is a (only slightly?) high tech variant of "Dare". Y'all recall that lovely game everyone played at 13, designed to goad people past the limits of propriety. The flaw of Dare, as here, is "Rah Rah, let it all out,
This is why I call the bluff of most of these proposals - because I don't see anything truly dangerous on the *founder's* site. Unless he's playing it savvy, why should anyone else risk worse?
My first Journal Entry ever, in 8 years! http://slashdot.org/journal/365947/aphelion-scifi-fantasy-horror-poetry-webzine
Yeah, open source COKE man! Let's stick it to those Colombian cartels!
Hey, it sure beats the idea of pasty, overweight geeks posting their naked photos online...
The article says "Put your naked pictures (not pornographic or erotic, just naked)"
This guy's been smoking OpenWeed. Your friendly local authorities might not think your privates dangling on your web page for kiddies to see are pornographic even if you don't. Besides if you put up something like this who are you kidding - you're going to w@nk at every opportunity.
These posts express my own personal views, not those of my employer
I don't think "Open Sourcing" yourself means publishing every last detail of your life. Even copyleft licenses like the GPL don't require you to publish anything you use or modify.
Open sourcing yourself would tend to imply that I give anyone the freedom to use, modify, redistribute and redistribute modifications of ME. That's too much for anyone, obviously - but I could just publish everything ABOUT my life under a CC/GNU license. But that still wouldn't be open sourcing "myself".
Conversely, I could publish almost everything about my life under highly restrictive licenses in DRM encrusted formats. That wouldn't be open sourcing - well, anything, even though I'd have no privacy.
This is a really bad analogy.
I'm pretty darned public on the net and otherwise, and I don't think I need to be putting pictures of Peter and the boys up in any forum. Pictures of me can be seen and my info is available, but that's going a bit far dontchya think?
There will always be a wreck beach around for those who wish to be 'Open'. I think the majority will stick to keeping private private.
Openhuman x sourceforge = human naked x (Create+Participate+Evaluate) So we get (Create human naked + Particapate human naked + Evaluate human naked) For Create human = sex, Particapate = join, Evaluate = score so (sex naked + join human naked + score human naked) then ( naked sex + orgy + laid) lol
If you wanted to it would be possible to be totally untraceable/anonymous online. Get an account with a proxy like Relakks and have your computer keep logs of nothing.
/. ID? Sure it's not that hard there's no serious effort at keeping it secret but it's enough that you won't stumble across it. Likewise if you do know my real name there's nothing to be found online, far less than you'd get with a simple public records search.
However even barring that it's pretty easy to maintain a decant level of privacy simply by not posting personal information on sites like that and using a net name. Could someone find out who's behind my
So even though you might have to go to some crazy lengths to be truly anonymous and thus have complete privacy, it doesn't take much to have pretty good privacy. It's not like there's a site out there that tries to find and post all your personal details. Pretty much you've got to decide to post them, and then something like Google will just make them easy to find for those that are interested. If you don't post it, there really won't be much.
It's kinda like privacy in your own home. If you keep your blinds drawn and stay inside, your life will be pretty private. If you sit out on your lawn facing a busy street, people will be able to see what you are doing. It's up to you to decide how much privacy you want.
Seriously, why do you even bother bringing war into this? This is trying to go beyond war. Sure there's something distinctly optimistic about it, but people have been trying to end war as we know it since at least the first world war, and there's good reason for this.
War will only end when man can trust man, and only insofar as that trust goes.
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Exactly (n/t)
You just try wearing no clothes anywhere where police can get to you. Especially near children.
:( It also keeps me from freezing to death in the cold Canadian weather, though. Sometimes, though, clothes can keep yourself from being stabbed by a protuding object, or scraped in an accident, or from being scalded by a hot (or very cold) object. You can also hold objects and tools in clothes, or even take off the clothes in a hurry and use them as a towel or drying cloth.
My reason? Clothes help manage my fat, and keeps my fat from rubbing together uncomfortably.
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until Version 3.0 comes along - perhaps they'll have filled the Memory Hole by then.
One swallow does not a fellatrix make
use brainencryption;
use encrypted_brain_firmware;
And lets an Anonymous Coward troll /.
Thanks for nothing.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
Don't post your Email on this. Otherwise you'll probably get...
Subject: OpenHuman
Get your clothes back on, you disgusting thing!
Oh well. At least it means Willy on Wheels will be out of a job...
Those using pirated Tinysoft signatures(TM) are a real threat to society and should all be thrown in jail.
Apart the above, I enjoyed the futuristic aproach of some
slashdotters, extending the "what if" senarios that
could come if someone shared everything* about himself.
*everything:= even the information that are vital for oneself to be hidden.
As for me, I prefer being hidden
And thus unravell my secrets to anyone I choose.
deltaS>=0 (c.s.)