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OpenSourcing Yourself, Are You Ready?

An anonymous reader writes "Many people love and use open source software. Open source has made an impact in just about every place imaginable; education, hardware, coke, beer, cell phones, pharmaceuticals, search engines and encyclopedias. However, OpenHuman takes it one step further and invites you to open source yourself to experiment with the open human idea. This may sound crazy and rife with privacy concerns but as the author asks, do you still believe in Internet privacy in the age of blogs, MySpace, LinkedIn, Meetup, and Flickr?"

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  1. Interesting by bhirsch · · Score: 1

    So is MS a privacy advocate and the open source movement a privacy opponent?

    1. Re:Interesting by crosbie · · Score: 1

      MS is an advocate of private rights to its published software - even in your private domain.

      Open Source is an advocate of source code visibility in published software.

      FSF is an advocate of the public's freedom to published software.

      The only one of the above opposed to privacy is MS, who still requires that purchasors of its software not be permitted to make private copies or derivatives of its software - and it demands the right to 'audit' your private premises to assert this.

      As far as the GPL is concerned there is no constraint on what you get up to privately, nor compulsion to publish your private modifications. Some people mistake protection against obfuscation as a compulsion to publish modifications. This is not the case. The GPL simply requires that if you are publishing a GPL derivative that you do not obfuscate it (publish a binary derivative without source code).

      There are other movements such as the Gift Economists who do require that all private modifications are surrendered free of charge to remote users. Appropriate licenses are the APL and HPL. These require continuous publication of source code and thus prevent private modification. Copyright's prohibition of private derivatives is used to enforce this.

  2. uh wtf by aeonex · · Score: 1

    Put your naked pictures (not pornographic or erotic, just naked)

    uh..please no

    1. Re:uh wtf by Otter · · Score: 1

      I can't say I'm astonished that the guy behind this doesn't understand how humans actually do distribute their source code. But, yeah -- with the combination of the above line and the link to the FSF, I don't think this is a site I'll be following closely.

    2. Re:uh wtf by bladesjester · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, he does say that he hasn't had a girlfriend in about two years. That could explain quite a lot of this...

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    3. Re:uh wtf by yosofun · · Score: 1

      ... and the difference?

    4. Re:uh wtf by pikine · · Score: 1

      You do mean how you can distribute only half of your source code at any given time?

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    5. Re:uh wtf by b1ufox · · Score: 1
      Exactly, whats the catch here?open sourcing your self...duh bad idea.

      FTFA as the author asks, do you still believe in Internet privacy in the age of blogs, MySpace, LinkedIn, Meetup, and Flickr?"

      And how do you make sure the information available over Internet is genuine and authentic smart guy?

      What if somebody publishes not so public information about someone he knows...quite a case of impersonation.

      Please let Open Source(ness) be limited to code and hardware.Please dont try to mix them with human feelings.

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    6. Re:uh wtf by eno2001 · · Score: 1

      Well, seeing that I've already "open sourced" my DNA a few times around the world... I have to say the idea of people posting naked but non-sexual photos is a great idea. It allows us to appreciate each other's bodied with no value judgement. Once you've tried it, humans bodies of all types can be appreciated for their beauty.

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    7. Re:uh wtf by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      The cloning scientists are already working on this problem. OTOH you could also see the current scheme as accepting massive patches into each new copy.

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      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
  3. Privacy Not Quite Dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny



    "...do you still believe in Internet privacy in the age of blogs, MySpace, LinkedIn, Meetup, and Flickr?"

    Yes I do. Of course, I make very sparing use of those technologies, and I post AC at Slashdot.

    I would consider opensourcing myself, but I'm afraid I'd be immediately forked.

    1. Re:Privacy Not Quite Dead. by zeromorph · · Score: 1

      Opensourcing yourself means posting or otherwise publishing you genome, right?

      Flickr? Screenshots.

      Blogs? Release notes.

      LinkedIn? CVS.

      MySpace? Manual/FAQ.

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    2. Re:Privacy Not Quite Dead. by xactuary · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or you could just go fork yourself. (No offense. It just had to be said!)

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  4. Uh... by Tarlus · · Score: 1

    Yup. Open Source sure is great.

    But what in the world does that have to do with a social website that encourages you to post naked photos of yourself?

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    1. Re:Uh... by k12linux · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's all part of the synergistic paradigm of Web 2.0 creating a forward-looking social matrix.

    2. Re:Uh... by toxcspdrmn · · Score: 1, Funny

      Why are people moderating the parent Informative rather than Funny? Is it supposed to be an ironic act and I'm just not getting it?

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    3. Re:Uh... by Thansal · · Score: 1

      This is FUNNY you mods, not informative.

      deargod if anyone honestly found this informative I would cry for humanity.

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    4. Re:Uh... by chris_eineke · · Score: 2, Informative

      Jeez people, it's a line from userfriendly.org

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    5. Re:Uh... by chris_eineke · · Score: 1

      Hit submit too early... the rest of the post follows:

      . ;D

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    6. Re:Uh... by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 1

      The best case scenario is, it catches on and he can sell it for 1.6 billion. Or 1 million. In the worst case, he'll become known for discovering the next Goatse.

  5. This is a good idea by User+956 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I plan on open sourcing my daily schedule. In this way, everyone gets to decide what I have for breakfast, what kind of shampoo I use, what kind of clothes to wear, and where I work. I've already started, I've been experimenting with running all of my personal correspondence through a "meWiki", which lets any member of the public edit every message I write before it gets sent out. TESTICLES.

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    1. Re:This is a good idea by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      My wife and I use only open source sexual positions. We get them from a community where people experiment with new positions and publish the ones they find so that free, unfettered access to quality sexual positions can be enjoyed by all.

      Now with my mistress, I have to stick to the LGPL, or Limited GNU Public License, since that's a more discreet relationship and I can't require her to divulge all her private information. The LGPL only requires documentation of who she is, how other guys can get in touch with her, and the details of how I "link" her.

      (That was a joke! Hi honey!)

    2. Re:This is a good idea by nine-times · · Score: 1

      I plan on open sourcing my daily schedule. In this way, everyone gets to decide what I have for breakfast, what kind of shampoo I use, what kind of clothes to wear, and where I work.

      I don't know if you meant to make this point, but I have to say, "good point". If you were really open-sourcing yourself, wouldn't that mean that you'd have to allow others the right to edit you? Not edit your writings or anything else, but edit you?

      Until I have access to your source code, and I can alter it how I'd like in order to scratch an itch, you aren't truly "free" are you?

    3. Re:This is a good idea by mrsmiggs · · Score: 1

      frankly I can't wait to be 'forked'... ;)

    4. Re:This is a good idea by beadfulthings · · Score: 1

      Have you taken a look at TiddlyWiki? I cannot tell a lie: Somebody posted abut it here on Slashdot, and I've become a confirmed convert. By means of TiddlySpot if you are so inclined, you can open-source whatever aspects of yourself you'd like people to know about, while keeping the rest of it (like your naked pictures) under wraps. There are also numerous php implementations that allow you to upload your TiddlyWiki to your own server. TiddlyWiki ranks right up there with sliced bread, in my opinion.

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    5. Re:This is a good idea by burndive · · Score: 1
      I don't know if you meant to make this point, but I have to say, "good point". If you were really open-sourcing yourself, wouldn't that mean that you'd have to allow others the right to edit you? Not edit your writings or anything else, but edit you?

      Not quite. It allows you to copy his implementation to whatever degree you feel like in your own implementation. Just because $SOFTWARE is open source doesn't give me the right or ability to modify it upstream.

      You're thinking of a wiki.

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      ...because "hacker" sounds way sexier than "code drone."
    6. Re:This is a good idea by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1
      If you were really open-sourcing yourself, wouldn't that mean that you'd have to allow others the right to edit you?

      Nah, it means that they can copy me (darned biters) and edit the copies.

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    7. Re:This is a good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      > (That was a joke! Hi honey!)

      Are you saying "hi" to the wife, or the mistress?

    8. Re:This is a good idea by sbaker · · Score: 1

      I take it you havn't seen what vandals to do Wikipedia then? :-)

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    9. Re:This is a good idea by chickenandporn · · Score: 1

      I'm concerned about any license involving sex, fettered access, and gnus or antelopes. -- cat: alt.OpenSex.gnu.swedishchef.bork.bork.bork: SEGFAULT: sharing violation

    10. Re:This is a good idea by pereyra · · Score: 1

      Kamasustra open source or Licenced? :)
      Good comments

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  6. There's Already an OpenHuman... by jalvear · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...And her name is Paris Hilton.

    1. Re:There's Already an OpenHuman... by jb.hl.com · · Score: 3, Funny

      I hear she's GPLed. Unlike with the BSD licensed women, you just can't close her up.

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  7. Well by imsabbel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "do you still believe in Internet privacy in the age of blogs, MySpace, LinkedIn, Meetup, and Flickr?"

    Yes, i do.
    Thats the reason i dont have a blog, dont whore my photographs out to flicker, think myspace it a breeding experiment for retards and never heard of something called "meetup" before.

    So i guess i dont really belong to the target demographics...

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    1. Re:Well by Psychotext · · Score: 1

      Amen to that.

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      People that believe in their opinions don't post AC.
    2. Re:Well by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      It's all to do with how much information you want to give away though - having a blog doesn't in itself mean giving up more privacy than posting on Slashdot for example, which you seem happy to do.

      Less so in some ways, in fact, since places like LiveJournal allow some level of security to restrict access to certain people, where as here you have no choice but to make everything public.

    3. Re:Well by lixee · · Score: 1

      It's a bad implementation of a very good idea. "Open-sourcing" yourself might work miracles. Allow me to elaborate; I started pumping iron a few months back, and realised that posting info about yourself would allow more people to correct any "bugs" (eg: pictures, training routine, nutrive plan, measurements, supplements, etc...)

      By the way, the creator of OpenHuman.org admitedly "can't do without Microsoft Frontpage." Traitor I say!

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      Res publica non dominetur
  8. Best. Irony. Ever. by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Funny

    "An anonymous reader writes..."

    Fabulous!

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  9. Better Stock Up on Antibiotics by Cr0w+T.+Trollbot · · Score: 1
    No telling what sort of "code" people are going to want to "download" into your "wetware."

    Crow T. Trollbot

    1. Re:Better Stock Up on Antibiotics by jibjibjib · · Score: 1

      Well then no software is truly "open", because they don't allow people to add trojans to official releases.

  10. Unified data by Foofoobar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Having my data in several different databases that don't work together or coordinate their data in any way makes me feel safer than having all my data in one database for everyone to easily access. Reminds me of MS Passport.

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    1. Re:Unified data by bughouse26 · · Score: 1

      You think your data stays locked in those databases and isn't horse traded around by corporations?

    2. Re:Unified data by Foofoobar · · Score: 1

      Most of the time... yes. They may mine what they can but it's snippets which may or may not be related to what some other manufacturer may need. Speaking as someone who has had to do that kind of thing, data gts scrubbed and what is purchased is not the entire set of data but a specific view which may or may not have accurate info or may be outdated and no longer current. So regardless of them trading, NO company sells theirs ENTIRE database of info to their competitors and nobody has completely current and accurate info on all persons in their DB.

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    3. Re:Unified data by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 1

      Not working together? Well until some company start buying those databases and do some datamining on them.
      Hmm, actually I think I could make a fortune with that! Now don't go stealing my million dollar worth but evil and despicable idea okay?

  11. Intellectual property? by feranick · · Score: 1

    Does this redefine the concept of Intellectual property? I mean do I get sued from anybody because I own a brain and the creative use of it?

  12. Forking by wootest · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure I'd want to be the subject of a fork. I hear that can get you admitted.

    1. Re:Forking by BecomingLumberg · · Score: 1

      I'm hoping to get forked this weekend. [rimshot]

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      If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.-TJ
  13. Reality check by mattpointblank · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "This may sound crazy and rife with privacy concerns but as the author asks, do you still believe in Internet privacy in the age
    of blogs, MySpace, LinkedIn, Meetup, and Flickr?""


    Uhhh, what? This is like saying "Why not just start murdering people? Come on, look at how full our jails are with murderers!". Granted that's a little extreme, but the justification for uploading a naked photo of myself is basically "everyone else is doing it!". No thanks.

    Also, the site looks damn awful. Can anyone say "two-bit idea with even less design time"?

    1. Re:Reality check by mattpointblank · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh man, some further reading reveals the reasoning for my last point.

      "# I can't do without Microsoft Frontpage. I know that the next MS Office won't include Frontpage anymore. And this site was planned in Frontpage."

      From the Site's Admin's Page.

    2. Re:Reality check by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Frontpage, no wonder the page looks like shit.
      Ok, so you can make a nice looking page using Frontpage, but for some reason it seems to be the source of many bad pages. And, while it would be nice to think that Frontpage is dying a much deserved death, its mostly just getting a name change. Office 2007 has Microsoft Office Sharepoint Designer 2007, which is the successor to Frontpage. One can only hope that no one notices it, and the few who do are scared off by the whole "Sharepoint" bit in the name.
      I swear, if I have to work on one more Frontpage generated page, I'm going to kill someone. The code that it spits out is a mess, and trying to work with CSS in Frontpage is akin to having your testicles in a vice.

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      Necessity is the mother of invention.
      Laziness is the father.
  14. Oh Really... by goodtim · · Score: 1
    And this site was planned in Frontpage.

    Is that so? I would have never guessed.
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    "Flee at once, all is discovered."
  15. God Forbid... by Foofoobar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I dread the day that my workplace can read all my Slashdot posts.

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    1. Re:God Forbid... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      Behold! Your first Slashdot Post. And what four mods thought this was Funny?

      All it takes is $5 for a four-month subscription.

    2. Re:God Forbid... by Foofoobar · · Score: 1

      Duh... but they don't know this is my handle. And you don't know where I work.

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    3. Re:God Forbid... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      If you surf from work, your username is only a screenshot away.

      If you don't, then good for you, and your employer has no business snooping, anyway.

    4. Re:God Forbid... by Joebert · · Score: 1
      All it takes is $5 for a four-month subscription.

      Crackheads charge $10 a pop to find out stuff like that, & 90% of the time it's not even true.
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    5. Re:God Forbid... by Foofoobar · · Score: 1

      If ever single person who wanted to access my data had to lean over my shoulder, I'd be comfortable with that. :)

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    6. Re:God Forbid... by Joe+Snipe · · Score: 1

      I leaned on google and found out that you live in seattle, have accounts on Newsforge, and Transgaming, play NWN, and live in seattle. I suppose I could find more if I wanted to spend more than 45 seconds on something I'm barely intereasted in.

      Security through obscurity: it's not just a method, it's a way of life! ;)

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      Sometimes, life itself is sarcasm...
    7. Re:God Forbid... by Foofoobar · · Score: 1

      probably not. I use certain accounts for certain things. And this still isn't very descriptive. This is just general internet info. Again, nothing to incriminate, nothing to ID me. And again, this is my whole point, should all info on an individual be in ONE place for everyone to easily access, that would be frightening. Having it all broken up and all over the place makes me comfortable since that data (though parsed and resold), usually doesn't coordinate with all the other databases that hold related information to me.

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  16. Very dangerous for a turkish by unity100 · · Score: 1

    This time, I built it during the Halloween; actually this could be my first Halloween, because we don't celebrate it in Turkey

    Wait until someone in turkey roll up some fake id & papers to use them in applying for $100.000 worth of credits in 3-4 banks. Or register a company in your name and do some fraud with it.

    No joke - these things happen.

    Might be a good and inventive idea for a scandinavian or a canada citizen, or in turkey, its suicide.

    1. Re:Very dangerous for a turkish by turkix · · Score: 1

      :) you racist

    2. Re:Very dangerous for a turkish by user24 · · Score: 1

      "$100,000 worth of credits"
      um, I think you mean New Lira - this isn't star trek. :-D

  17. Moo by Chacham · · Score: 2, Funny

    From The Website:
    # Put your naked pictures (not pornographic or erotic, just naked)

    Guess they just want the bare essentials...

  18. Yay for Fads! by pfz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Open source has turned into a fad that's sweeping the nation! How about we call anything and everything open source so that we can appeal to that demographic and sell whatever products we want! Yay! Open Source Mac and Cheese! Open Source High-Top Sneakers!

    Let's all share in the love of Richard Stallman and stop this trendy madness!

    ALTERNATIVE FREEDOM
    a documentary featuring Richard Stallman, Lawrence Lessig, Danger Mouse(of Gnarls Barkley), doesone and more!

    1. Re:Yay for Fads! by Cctoide · · Score: 1

      The Enterprise-Level Open-Source Multi-Tasking Turnkey Web 2.0 Collaborative Friendmaking Personal Space Brain Implant Project, licensed under Creative Commons Non-Commercial ShareAlike 2.5.

      Did I miss a demographic there?

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      "Let's face it, it's a good story. Accuracy would kill it."
    2. Re:Yay for Fads! by benplaut · · Score: 1

      Yea, i've never been able to make a good mac and cheese!

  19. Trust by PineHall · · Score: 1

    Being open is good, if you can trust the person or the group. Being open does not create the needed trust. Unfortunately people don't always act in ways that promote trust. Many times people act in ways that are selfish and without regard and concern for others. We all have been selfish and uncaring at one time or another. That is why people make commitments and covenants with others so that safe places to openly share can be created and maintained.

    1. Re:Trust by marquis-cablewitch · · Score: 1

      Indeed, I recall reading a fine theory about this. Suggesting that trust was built over time between an individual and a group by appropriate stages of revelation about themselves and their past. It also included the fact that inappropriate revelation (i.e. too much information too fast, too little too slow, just stuff the group didn't want to know) raised distrust between the group and individual, on the basis that it scared people basically.

      Wish I could recall the name of the idea, but then psychology and sociology are topics I've merely dabbled in so I can't... still interesting idea none the less.

      However theres also the idea that being totally open makes you immune to a lot of smear campaigns as you openly admit to everything, but I suspect that most people this is targetted at couldn't take that kind of exposure (I'm fairly sure I wouldn't want it) and also the negative consequences of making all that information available to various fraudsters is also a bad point.

  20. Do not give your Real name on that page. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    There is NOTHING in the law that states that any web site actually has to abide by their privacy policy. I wish I could remember the website that was challenged on their privacy policy (they sold ALL of their user information: 2.4+ million hits on Google "judge rules against website privacy policy")and the Judge ruled in favor of the website - I.e. the privacy policy on a website isn't worth the paper it's written on! (Prove me wrong, please!) And, in this day nd age with the NSA, Homeland Security, CIA, War on Terror, War on Druge, Repulicans in Charge, do you really think that any law will stop them?

  21. I'm already GPL'd.... I'm married with Kids. by Allnighterking · · Score: 5, Funny

    You wouldn't believe the number of "patches" my wife submits daily to "improve" me. Then my kids have their suggestions about how I can do everything better than I am. If I google my name thousands (literally) of hits come back, many of those are in response to RFC's caused by my asking questions or giving opinions on the net. It's a constant race to stay one e-mail address ahead of the spammers and my IM client is constantly in motion due to one customer passing my contact info on to another.

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    I'm sorry, I'm to tired to be witty at the moment so this message will have to do.

  22. Been there, done that by duh+P3rf3ss3r · · Score: 5, Funny

    I got together with a like-minded open-source linuxchick some time ago and we produced a couple of extremely viable derivative works. Fortunately, neither one of us tried to exert control over the other's homegrown portion of either of those derivative works.

    The trouble is that the derivative works are now starting to think about creating next-gen derivatives which has me sort of worried about whether they'll respect the ideals of the community or if they'll become sellouts like Novell...

    Oh, well, I suppose we'll just have to wait and see...

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    1. Re:Been there, done that by Pope · · Score: 1

      Deep Thoughts: "I believe in making the world safe for our children, but not our children's children, because I don't think children should be having sex."

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      It doesn't mean much now, it's built for the future.
  23. If it's GPL by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1

    Then you'd have to be OK with people improving you. Perhaps you'd look good in heels?

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    1. Re:If it's GPL by burndive · · Score: 1

      If you really think so, maybe you should exercise your right to copy everything he does, but wear heels.

      What? You thought you could modify the upstream source? That would be a wiki, which is totally different.

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      ...because "hacker" sounds way sexier than "code drone."
  24. This guy's not serious by femto · · Score: 2, Funny

    Show me the DNA.

    1. Re:This guy's not serious by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 1

      Be careful what you ask for. As it is this guy seems to want a naked picture of you, he might just "download" some "DNA" on it for you.

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      Laziness is the father.
  25. Forking by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

    Where I come from, they call that "identity theft."

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  26. Already being promoted by smchris · · Score: 1

    Our area employment offices are encouraging everyone to have an online portfolio. But not just a resume and work samples. They list about 50 things a person might consider -- including school transcripts. Should be interesting.

    1. Re:Already being promoted by bladesjester · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, but I don't think that school transcripts should be posted on anyone's online portfolio.

      Data about you that you have to sign for in order to obtain should not be posted for everyone to look at. It gives up way too many details about you.

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      Everything I need to know I learned by killing smart people and eating their brains.
  27. Free Beer by slapys · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Open source has made an impact in just about every place imaginable; education, hardware, coke, beer,"
    Seriously. After joining the open source movement, I have encountered more free beer than ever before.

  28. There's no such thing as privacy really... by BalkanBoy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    there is only what makes you look good and what helps you avoid looking bad (think of this in a wide context - unless you are living isolated from humans, it applies anywhere - personal life, professionally, socially, everywhere). If everything you ever did only resulted in you looking good for everyone else around you, would really need privacy? Conversely, if you could avoid looking bad in everything you do, would you still need privacy?

    So if you have something you like to keep private - 99.999% of the time, it has to do with looking good or avoiding looking bad.

    Sad but true.

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    1. Re:There's no such thing as privacy really... by TranscendentalAnarch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Privacy is the restriction of information for your personal benefit.  A necessity in any healthy, non-utopian government.

    2. Re:There's no such thing as privacy really... by NateTech · · Score: 1

      Don't worry.

      You won't look bad if you share:
      - your mother's maiden name
      - your SSN #
      - and your birthdate ... with all of us. You won't "look bad" at all.

      So I'm sure you're willing to do that immediately, right?

      Perhaps you need to expand your definition of privacy a bit before generalizing about privacy.

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    3. Re:There's no such thing as privacy really... by Asic+Eng · · Score: 1
      I'm not sure this is a useful concept - depending how far you are willing to stretch it, I think it either doesn't encompass all cases or it becomes to broad to mean anything. My wife looks beautiful, yet I have no interest in sharing her naked pictures with you. I want to keep that to myself, even though "looking good" applies...

      Similarly, if I'm into S&M or something like that - I have no interest in my workplace knowing about these activities. This would potentially stretch into the "looking bad" category, but then the solution "avoid looking bad" makes no sense whatsoever. If that's what I'm into, than I have no interest in avoiding it - regardless what my (potentially) stick-in-the-ass employer thinks, or what my fundi christian neighbours have to say to that.

  29. exactly by bunions · · Score: 1

    the entire concept is retarded.

    "We will all get more and more open, this is inevitable."

    It is? Since when? I am far more protective of my privacy now than I was in '95. Just because a vocal group of jackasses thinks the world wants to view their dirty laundry doesn't mean we all think the same.

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    1. Re:exactly by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1
      It is? Since when? I am far more protective of my privacy now than I was in '95.

      Privacy's on the way out. You might as well get used to the idea. In your lifetime you will have an ID chip implanted in you, or in some other way be completely identifiable no matter where you are.

      I'm not saying this is a good thing. But it will happen.

    2. Re:exactly by bunions · · Score: 1

      Internet weirdos proclaim privacy dead, demand naked pictures be posted!
      "It is inevitable," they claim, "let's just leave it at that."

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    3. Re:exactly by FST777 · · Score: 1

      If anyone in my lifetime will try to implant an ID chip into me, that'll be the end of my, or his/her, lifetime. So no, that won't happen in my lifetime.

      Instead of accepting these futuristic horror scenarios we should fight it with all the might we have.

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    4. Re: exactly by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

      Right on. Posters above are falling (deliberately, for effect?) into the trap that "historical trends must continue inexorably". However, in the modern age, national moods are cyclical.

      I refuse to be pushed into the artificial paranoia the W. Administration is promoting, but overall I also am more cautious with my privacy. This parallels a slow growth in my understanding of computers in general, and some specific incidents recently, such as AOL's search fiasco.

      I do not have a MySpace page. I do not have many photos floating around the net. As other expert SlashDot types have remarked, no one can shield themselves forever from a sustained digging attack. But that takes work, and I am not a famous enough figure to bother with.

      W's actions make our decision to impeach Nixon laughable, an event from another age. Anything can be foisted upon the US public for about 6 years, and then after the novelty wears off, the dissenters who were there all along begin to be listened to. Get your 1940's golden age SF now, because we will never be that innocently naive again to write any more. No flying cars, no transporter beams, no hyperdrive, and we're 25-100 years out *minimum* from building the barest beginnings of Moon & Mars bases.

      BioChips are the type of thing the government might angle for, but I think we're near the end of this sweep of YRO crushing, so we're also 25 years out before the pendulum swings twice to make that a threat. It's much easier to track cell phones ("think of the children!"), and everyone except me carries one. A "chip" is not necesary.

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  30. "I was having fun to suck batteries . . ." by greenreaper · · Score: 1

    I liked this bit from the founder's own page: "I was having fun to suck batteries while I was a child! Then I've learned that it's very dangerous and can cause brain damages! I regret that!"

    1. Re:"I was having fun to suck batteries . . ." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      It certainly explains his site.

    2. Re:"I was having fun to suck batteries . . ." by bladesjester · · Score: 1

      He also says that Starbucks is one of his two favorite companies and that he hasn't had a girlfriend in almost two years (big surprise there)

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    3. Re:"I was having fun to suck batteries . . ." by Who235 · · Score: 1

      Waawaaweewaah, is a good site!!!

      I am to posting picture of my chramm.

      Is very nice.

  31. Future International Sex Offender by Unknown_monkey · · Score: 1

    "Put your naked pictures (not pornographic or erotic, just naked)"

    So when some teen follows that request, I see the FBI adding this guy to the 10 most wanted, even though he's in Turkey. Interpol will want to have "words" with this man someday.

    Or worse, a Dateline special. "So when you invited young boys and girls to post their naked pictures, what were you thinking?:

  32. I wish I had mod points to mod you up. by gknoy · · Score: 1

    I liked your point about the extra effort we go to (and often feel we need) in order to have a place that we can trust is safe to share in. It's really spot-on. Having come from my cousin's wedding, maybe that's closer to the forefront of my mind.

    Mods, please mod the parent up! :)

  33. If this is the Open Source route for humans... by Regnard · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...I'd gladly take the Microsoft way.

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    1. Re:If this is the Open Source route for humans... by quizzicus · · Score: 1

      prostitution?

  34. sbout privacy un blogs, innit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    do you still believe in Internet privacy in the age of blogs, MySpace, LinkedIn, Meetup, and Flickr?

    Well, I don't use MySpace, I've never heard of LinkedIn, the Meetups that I tried to get involved in really sucked ass, and Flickr is one of those things that I've heard other people talking about but never gave a damn about. So, if that's the criteria on which to judge privacy, then, well, yeah, I believe in privacy a whole hell of a lot.

    In terms of privacy, I'm more concerned with large corporate databases, RealID, data mining, tracking grocery purchases, my medical records, and my phone number and address. That's what privacy means to me. Fuck MySpace. MySpace is the exact opposite of privacy. Myspace is about all the stupid shit that people spout about themselves. It's about their PUBLIC face, not their PRIVATE one.

    Blogs are also bad for your privacy, but is any of you against the blogs now?

    Who wrote, this Ali fucking G?? "Is any of you against the blog? 'cuz I done laid a big blog down in the loo 'bout fiften minits ago, and I con still sniff it hee-yuh. Aiiiiii."

  35. In related news.. by Hugonz · · Score: 3, Funny
    In related news, Steve Ballmer is quoted as saying:

    Open source, my ass!

    1. Re:In related news.. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      In related news, Steve Ballmer is quoted as saying:
      Open source, my ass!


      Why is Steve Ballmer always squirting something?

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    2. Re:In related news.. by Scarletdown · · Score: 1
      In related news, Steve Ballmer is quoted as saying:

      Open source, my ass!


      And later, in a similar comment, he stated, "Open source? When chairs fly out of my ass!"

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    3. Re:In related news.. by maxume · · Score: 1

      Taco Bell?

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  36. postsecret++ by yosofun · · Score: 1

    this seems like the extension of Post Secret -- the open-secret-via-postcard-initiative. the game? people send their secrets via a meaningful postcard, as shown here: http://postsecret.blogspot.com/

  37. Could this crash the system? by Thunderstruck · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If all of your personal information is publicly available, what happens to electronic commerce? Do our current norms of electronic commerce rely on certain information being "secret"? If all of my credit cards, social security numbers, and my mothers maiden names are available for anyone, would anyone dare to do business online with a person claiming to be "me"? What about public services, social security, child support, or medicaid? How would a government agency know if the person receiving the benefits was the "right" person?

    On the other hand, could personal information be devalued to the point where nobody wants to collect it anymore?

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    1. Re:Could this crash the system? by hallux-s · · Score: 1

      You can always put a fraud alert on your record with the various reporting companies, but Murphy's Law dictates that you'll need a new line of credit, FAST, immediately to one month after you put the alert on there. Then you'll wish you hadn't.

      As for crashing "the system", I have often hoped.

      "Think of it Marty, no more rich people, no more poor, everyone's the same". "You haven't gone crazy on me, have you Cos?"

      I have thought about posting all my personal info, and in excrutiating deatil, and then sending a link to it to the various anti-fraud addresses at credit companies and reporting agencies, but... I am waiting to see how it goes for the first few thousand to try it.

  38. This is "more open" how? by mincognito · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Um, could someone explain how the OpenHuman concept "takes it one step further"? The founder's own page seems less open than most myspace pages.

    It seems fairly obvious that being "entirely open" is a really, really stupid idea. It has been known at least since the 6th Century BCE that your personal information (history, status, intentions, beliefs, etc.) can and will be used against you by others seeking power and your subjugation. To suceed in a world of conflict and competition at times requires deception: insuring that others cannot pin you down, that if they seek to manipulate you their efforts are based on misinformation. Are you going to include on your resume a link to a page that contains naked pictures of yourself, that cataglogs your personal problems and issues, and that details your secret fantasies? Sometimes it's best to just shut the hell up. If you really need to divulge everything about yourself, for therapeutic reasons or whatever, why not do it anonymously? Unless, of course, attaching this information to your real name is to your advantage somehow.

    Clearly the "open" information provided by the site's founder has been prudently selected. To frame its presentation by saying "oh, i'm being 100% open -- this is the real me" is actually quite clever. A page like his might help him make contacts, show off his computer skills, get girls, etc. But it would be of no use to him if he included information about his sexual dysfunction, his absolute hatred for his family and pictures of his hairy ass.

  39. Choice by ezratrumpet · · Score: 1

    The idea of OpenHuman is still like a MUD. The "OpenHuman" person may or may not resemble the person entering the data, uploading the pictures, and answering the email.

    Everyone (and no one) can be an action hero online.

  40. open source? by suzerain · · Score: 1

    Hmm.

    Since when does "open source" mean...just posting random factoids about things? Does some list of facts about Linux, like who created it and when it was created, and for what purpose, mean the same thing as "open source"? Umm, no...it's just a bunch of facts.

    Wouldn't "open sourcing" a human mean opening a database of DNA samples?

    This site isn't open source, it's just narcissism.

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  41. Very interesting... by Roofshadow · · Score: 1

    One of the things I've been listening to on my iPod is a recording of a talk given by the writer Quentin Crisp ("The Naked Servant") -- and by the sound of it, Crisp would have been a big fan of this idea. One of the things he discusses during the program is the idea that some of the greatest sources of human fear and unhappiness are secrecy, concealment, and outward conformity to popular culture because they rob us of our individuality and make us feel self-conscious and ashamed. I think he had a point! I don't know that I'm entirely up to it or ready for it myself -- at least not yet -- but I think it's an intriguing concept.

    1. Re:Very interesting... by toxcspdrmn · · Score: 1

      That's "The Naked Civil Servant".

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  42. Creepy... by LindseyJ · · Score: 1

    This seems way more creepy to me than anything else. It seems like someone got a dare to see how many people they could get to upload nude pics of themselves, and came up with this. It's like a stalker's wet dream.

  43. same o'l stuff by the-real-airhead · · Score: 1

    and this is different from a plain old biography page how? I don't see the opensource in this, just the openness like on every blogging site.

  44. Re:Not Quite What I've Had in Mind by LindseyJ · · Score: 1

    That seems like an inherently bad idea.

    Well I just got finished masturbating per the Internet's decree, let's take a poll and see what I should do next...

    Hrm... The results are in and it looks like I'll be masturbating again. This sure is a great study.

  45. And publish your phone calls by beckman101 · · Score: 1

    You can publish every phone call you make as well.

  46. You have 1 person in your extended network by eko33 · · Score: 1

    Soo... it's nice to know there is a booming social site like openhuman.. What? With it's one user.

    I think I busted google: site: openhuman.org

  47. I am already open source by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 1

    I post a lot about myself on the Internet under at least the creative content license. Esp on Wiki sites and forums.

    I am a member of the Pirate Ninja party and we are pushing for open source of IP and information. We want to have works created under open source licenses to have an online library of books that can easily be revised as information changes. The Pirate Ninja party is all about change and adapting to change, unlike the other parties out there.

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  48. Hmph. by Masque · · Score: 1

    ...do you still believe in Internet privacy in the age of blogs, MySpace, LinkedIn, Meetup, and Flickr?

    Absolutely. And it's none of your business why.

  49. Full of pranksters by Joebert · · Score: 1

    Looks like the fun started without me.
    http://openhuman.org/ben_d_meova

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  50. Suck Batteries? by ethanrider · · Score: 1

    I was having fun to suck batteries while I was a child!

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  51. Open source your SSN... by Stephen+Tennant · · Score: 1

    and your DoB, address, etc, and I'll make sure to keep your name on any derivative credit card or loan, preserving the spirit of the GPL.

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  52. Re: I thought this sounded familiar by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    You got it, Anonymous Coward (distant cousin of Noel Coward)

    This is a (only slightly?) high tech variant of "Dare". Y'all recall that lovely game everyone played at 13, designed to goad people past the limits of propriety. The flaw of Dare, as here, is "Rah Rah, let it all out, ... except when it really counts".

    This is why I call the bluff of most of these proposals - because I don't see anything truly dangerous on the *founder's* site. Unless he's playing it savvy, why should anyone else risk worse?

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  53. Everything imaginable... by MayorDefacto · · Score: 1
    Open source has made an impact in just about every place imaginable; education, hardware, coke, beer, cell phones...

    Yeah, open source COKE man! Let's stick it to those Colombian cartels!

    Hey, it sure beats the idea of pasty, overweight geeks posting their naked photos online...

  54. Put up naked pictures? by syousef · · Score: 1

    The article says "Put your naked pictures (not pornographic or erotic, just naked)"

    This guy's been smoking OpenWeed. Your friendly local authorities might not think your privates dangling on your web page for kiddies to see are pornographic even if you don't. Besides if you put up something like this who are you kidding - you're going to w@nk at every opportunity.

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  55. You keep using that word by bitspotter · · Score: 1

    I don't think "Open Sourcing" yourself means publishing every last detail of your life. Even copyleft licenses like the GPL don't require you to publish anything you use or modify.

    Open sourcing yourself would tend to imply that I give anyone the freedom to use, modify, redistribute and redistribute modifications of ME. That's too much for anyone, obviously - but I could just publish everything ABOUT my life under a CC/GNU license. But that still wouldn't be open sourcing "myself".

    Conversely, I could publish almost everything about my life under highly restrictive licenses in DRM encrusted formats. That wouldn't be open sourcing - well, anything, even though I'd have no privacy.

    This is a really bad analogy.

  56. Open enough by Handover+Phist · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty darned public on the net and otherwise, and I don't think I need to be putting pictures of Peter and the boys up in any forum. Pictures of me can be seen and my info is available, but that's going a bit far dontchya think?

    There will always be a wreck beach around for those who wish to be 'Open'. I think the majority will stick to keeping private private.

  57. Open human?? by cky625 · · Score: 1

    Openhuman x sourceforge = human naked x (Create+Participate+Evaluate) So we get (Create human naked + Particapate human naked + Evaluate human naked) For Create human = sex, Particapate = join, Evaluate = score so (sex naked + join human naked + score human naked) then ( naked sex + orgy + laid) lol

  58. Precisely by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    If you wanted to it would be possible to be totally untraceable/anonymous online. Get an account with a proxy like Relakks and have your computer keep logs of nothing.

    However even barring that it's pretty easy to maintain a decant level of privacy simply by not posting personal information on sites like that and using a net name. Could someone find out who's behind my /. ID? Sure it's not that hard there's no serious effort at keeping it secret but it's enough that you won't stumble across it. Likewise if you do know my real name there's nothing to be found online, far less than you'd get with a simple public records search.

    So even though you might have to go to some crazy lengths to be truly anonymous and thus have complete privacy, it doesn't take much to have pretty good privacy. It's not like there's a site out there that tries to find and post all your personal details. Pretty much you've got to decide to post them, and then something like Google will just make them easy to find for those that are interested. If you don't post it, there really won't be much.

    It's kinda like privacy in your own home. If you keep your blinds drawn and stay inside, your life will be pretty private. If you sit out on your lawn facing a busy street, people will be able to see what you are doing. It's up to you to decide how much privacy you want.

  59. Make love, not war by themusicgod1 · · Score: 1

    Seriously, why do you even bother bringing war into this? This is trying to go beyond war. Sure there's something distinctly optimistic about it, but people have been trying to end war as we know it since at least the first world war, and there's good reason for this.

    War will only end when man can trust man, and only insofar as that trust goes.

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  60. Exactly (n/t) by ishmaelflood · · Score: 1

    Exactly (n/t)

  61. The law by themusicgod1 · · Score: 1

    You just try wearing no clothes anywhere where police can get to you. Especially near children.

    My reason? Clothes help manage my fat, and keeps my fat from rubbing together uncomfortably. :( It also keeps me from freezing to death in the cold Canadian weather, though. Sometimes, though, clothes can keep yourself from being stabbed by a protuding object, or scraped in an accident, or from being scalded by a hot (or very cold) object. You can also hold objects and tools in clothes, or even take off the clothes in a hurry and use them as a towel or drying cloth.

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  62. I'm waiting... by aproposofwhat · · Score: 1

    until Version 3.0 comes along - perhaps they'll have filled the Memory Hole by then.

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  63. Re:Uh... encypted flash by descil · · Score: 1

    use brainencryption;
    use encrypted_brain_firmware;

  64. ScuttleMonkey drops the ball again. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    And lets an Anonymous Coward troll /.

    Thanks for nothing.

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  65. What I expect... by jrothwell97 · · Score: 1

    Don't post your Email on this. Otherwise you'll probably get...

    Subject: OpenHuman
    Get your clothes back on, you disgusting thing!

    Oh well. At least it means Willy on Wheels will be out of a job...

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  66. What did you expect by ntipouan · · Score: 1
    from a guy that blames others for his choices ?


    But stupid me didn't choose computer sciences (thanks to my sister!)



    I'm still angry with my mom and sister, I made some very critical bad choices because of them!


    Apart the above, I enjoyed the futuristic aproach of some
    slashdotters, extending the "what if" senarios that
    could come if someone shared everything* about himself.

    *everything:= even the information that are vital for oneself to be hidden.

    As for me, I prefer being hidden :).
    And thus unravell my secrets to anyone I choose.
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