"Revenge of the Nerds" Remake Cancelled

An anonymous reader writes, "Fox Atomic has pulled the plug on the Revenge of the Nerds remake. The movie was into two weeks of shooting when Emory University, the place where it was shooting, decided it no longer wanted to be part of the film."

Comments

Good.

[hadhad69]

Maybe now Hollywod will come up with, dare I say it, an original movie idea.

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[wbren]

Maybe now Hollywod will come up with, dare I say it, an original movie idea.

No, it's much more likely that Fox will decide to make a documentary about filming the remake of Revenge of the Nerds, the struggle to gain support for the project, and its ultimate defeat. Rated PG-13.

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[Salvance]

Not original? Apparently you didn't read Fox's teaser bits ... they were going to have Booger be the one staying up all night to spy on the ladies instead of Louis, and then Poindexter was going to get the girl on the Moonbounce. These are earth shaking plot twists!

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[dj961]

How about "Attack of the Jocks"?

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[Mononoke]

How about "Attack of the Jocks"?

Ah yes, a "prequel," in the grand tradition of all those other well-loved "prequels."

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[Genocaust]

Do you think we're near the breaking point on creativity in realistic fiction films? Or closing in? Truely, how many different possibilities actually exist (that would be entertaining / exciting enough) to make a movie out of, barring a wave of sci-fi? There's got to be a breaking point some day.

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[superpulpsicle]

Hollywood never had many original ideas to begin with. They take alot of shit from Japanese animes, who flatout do sci-fi, horror and anything fantasy better than us. I am a firm believer that we make better documentaries and blow'em up special effects that's it. Once you take these two away, we are left with zero creativity.

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[Dunbal]

I am a firm believer that we make better documentaries

      What, better than the British? I rather doubt that, mate.

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[schon]

Hollywood never had many original ideas to begin with. They take alot of shit from Japanese animes, who flatout do sci-fi, horror and anything fantasy better than us.

Interesting - can you point out which Japanese movie this one is based on, or this?

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[udderly]

Agreed. I think that it comes from where the starting point is and where it isn't. Starting Point=Will it make money? Starting Point !=Is it a compelling story? I'm trying to decide if that is a recent phenomenon or not. I can think of some great movies made in yesteryear:
Cool Hand Luke
Apocalypse Now
Rear Window
Citizen Kane
Insert Your Movie Here

All in all, I guess we get the movies that we deserve. If we stopped paying for crap there would be no crap.

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[The Ultimate Fartkno]

Shakespeare never had many original ideas to begin with. He took a lot of shit from history and traditional folk tales, who flatout did romance, tragedy and anything historical better than us. I am a firm believer that we make better comedy and Scottish plays and that's it. Once you take these two away, we are left with zero creativity.

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Fixed that for you.

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[Enderandrew]

It has been speculated there are only something like 38 plots.

Let's take "Revenge" as a plot. With it, you have "Revenge of the Nerds", "Lethal Weapon 2", "Moby Dick" and "The Count of Monte Cristo" as a few examples.

With each plot you get to choose a medium, a style, a setting, individual characters, how that plot is resolved, whether or not to involve other plot elements as well, etc.

Truly there are only a small handful number of unique story ideas, but there are many ways to tell a story.

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[The Ultimate Fartkno]

Hey you! You take your highbrow "logic" and "insightfulness" and get the hell out of here! All movies suck, it's Hollywood's fault, and THAT'S IT! Now if you'll excuse me, I'll get back to torrenting my copy of "The Fountain" in an attempt to stick it to Big Media by pointing out that everything they do is soulless and not worth my time or mone... er, my money.

Harrumph.

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[Quarters]

"barring a wave of sci-fi"

Just because someone makes up a noun by combining a greek letter, a type of radiation, and either of the words, "particle" or "wave" it doesn't mean sci-fi has original story ideas. If anything sci-fi suffers more from trite and predictable plots more than other types of fiction. Only a geek would think that sci-fi was the silver bullet to save creativity.

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[mshiltonj]

Nah. Costs too much money.

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[Enderandrew]

I don't know exactly where your tastes in movies lie, but last year alone we had:

Munich
Capote
Crash
Brokeback Mountain
Murderball
Wallace and Grommit
Constant Gardener
Squid and the Whale
History of Violence
Good Night, and Good Luck
Hustle and Flow
The New World
Walk the Line
Jarhead
King Kong
Sin City
The Devil's Rejects
Pride and Prejudice
Hotel Rwanda
March of the Penguins
War of the Worlds
Episode III (before you bitch, it was easily the best of the prequels)
Mirrormask
Batman Begins
Broken Flowers
House of Flying Daggers
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Syriana
Layer Cake
Match Point
Goblet of Fire
Cache
Cinderella Man
40 Year Old Virgin
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
Serenity
The Upside of Anger
Shopgirl
Chronicles of Narnia
Wedding Crashers
Corpse Bride
Memoirs of a Geisha
Proof
Millions

As far as I'm concerned, Citizen Kane is horribly overrated. You spotted me three good movies in the entire history of mankind, and I gave you over 40 that came out last year alone.

Truly no one makes good movies anymore.

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[cayenne8]

I hear ya.

You know....I think there are SOME movies where they got it right the first time. ROTN's was one of them...along with the Longest Yard and some others they've done in recent history.

Like the GP said...how about some 'original scripts'...make some new movies that are as quality as the older ones (acting and scripts). And don't get me wrong, I like good special effects as much as the next person, but, I'm also a fan of really good story telling.....

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[ip_vjl]

The problem is that a lot of people won't go to see something unless it's *new*.

There can be a lot of great stories out there, but unless it is sitting in the New Releases section of the video store, or is playing at the local multiplex, they're just never going to see it.

It's unfortunate, because there's a lot of great stories out there that people just turn themselves off from because they're old, or in black and white, or have outdated special effects. How many people have actually seen Citizen Kane? But if it were re-released with (insert popular actor here) tomorrow, you'd have people going to it who would never even think to watch it otherwise.

In addition to the new factor, when the studios re-release a movie - they get lots of money from people who go to it just to complain about how it isn't as good as the original. Buying those tickets really shows them, now, doesn't it?

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[BaltikaTroika]

Come on, this is slashdot. Here's a list that will speak to the masses:

Internal Cumbustion 8
Housewife Bangers 2
Who's Your Daddy? 9
First Time Swallows 2
Sweet Cream Pies 1
Perverted POV 10
Two Big Two Be True 2
My Sister's Hot Friend 5
Bubblin Brown Suga
Dude Your Girlfriend Is In A Porno 4

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[aplusjimages]

Don't forget about the cross over plot with Police Academy.

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[Genocaust]

The only saving grace of creativity for sci-fi is that it can deal with things that are fully fictional in nature. Other genres usually have at least some basis in reality, but sci-fi is allowed to completely ignore this and make up things as they please based on how future events may possibly unfold.

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[ericdano]

Personally, Sweet Cream Pies 1 was the best out of that bunch. Internal Cumbustion 8 was good, but I thought it lacked feeling. Dude Your Girlfriend is in a Porno 4, to me, seemed more like an episode out of Jessica Simpson's reality show with all the deleted scenes. ;-)

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[bhima]

How many truly good movies are in this list? Several
How many truly bad movies are in this list? Several

How many mediocre movies are on this list: The majority

Sorry man but the majority aren't worth what costs for Me, my GF, and my daughter to see them.

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[Enderandrew]

I didn't list every movie that came out last year. I listed those that were universally hailed as good movies by all critics and fans alike last year.

There aren't any truly bad movies on that list.

Now you're just being obstinate.

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[Cylix]

Our documentaries will kick your documentaries ass any day of the week!

(Couldn't resist!)

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[operagost]

"Gone With The Wind" and "Casablanca" are based on anime? Horrors!

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[Enderandrew]

And oh, Happy Scrappy Hero Pup!

(your random Kevin Smith reference for the day!)

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[BlindFate]

Four Brothers and Stay were alot better than narnia and 40 year old virgin

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[Enderandrew]

Fair enough. I'm sure I made a number of omissions of good movies.

For instance, this year Edmund may be one of the best movies of the year, but no one has seen it.

I did not attempt to put together a definitive list, but merely to point out that despite all the retreads and crap, there are good movies that come out as well.

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[udderly]

Damn. Please tell me that you didn't see all of those movies. I feel like a slacker.

Munich Good, but to me a little overrated. Decent story with dialog that was clumsy at times.
Capote Outstanding.
The Upside of Anger Very good--a pleasant surprise. Does anyone play a better dumbass than Kevin Costner?
Chronicles of Narnia Very Good

I often wonder how one's expectation of a film affects one's enjoyment of it. For instance, I expected great things out of Munich and Brokeback Mountain only to be disappointed; whereas I had zero expectations from The Upside of Anger, and enjoyed it very much.

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[BlindFate]

Agreed, Although I dont see alot of movies, generally, I'm sure theres a few I assume to be shit that infact isnt

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[Enderandrew]

I am a huge film geek, and I only saw 1/3 to 1/2 of those. Having a kid and being broke limits your ability to see movies sadly.

I Google'd for critics Top Ten Films of 2005 lists, and checked Rotten Tomato scores to pick what is arguably the best films of 2005.

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[sorak]

No, it's much more likely that Fox will decide to make a documentary about filming the remake of Revenge of the Nerds, the struggle to gain support for the project, and its ultimate defeat. Rated PG-13.

Nah. It's more likely that their next documentary will be entitled "Nerds: The Menace Among Us"

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[Anonymous Coward]

Snobby Response by a AC CRAP

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[Tim C]

Wallace and Grommit

A British film, and based on existing characters; not a sequel as such, but not entirely original either.

King Kong

A remake.

Sin City

Based on a graphic novel.

Pride and Prejudice

Made at least once before, if not more, and based on a book.

War of the Worlds

Remake of a film based on a book.

House of Flying Daggers

Was that a Hollywood film? (Genuine question)

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

A remake of a film based on a book.

Layer Cake

British.

Match Point

I thought this was British, but could be wrong.

Chronicles of Narnia

Remake.

Now, I'm not saying that they're not good films, but I don't think that that list is really a good example of original Hollywood films of the last year...

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[cloak42]

Based on a graphic novel.

Since when does this make it an unoriginal film? We have movies that are made all the time that have been adapted from plays or novels--what makes a graphic novel adaptation any less original?

A remake of a film based on a book.

Just goes to show that you didn't see this film. For the record, it was an adaptation of the novel, whereas the "original film" had very little to do with the book. It was by NO means a remake.

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[Dunbal]

Our documentaries will kick your documentaries ass any day of the week!

      It's ARSE, my good fellow, ARSE ;)

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[blincoln]

They take alot of shit from Japanese animes, who flatout do sci-fi, horror and anything fantasy better than us.

That's an interesting claim. Most of the anime I've seen borrows extensively from its own genre and Hollywood films, even if it is nicely designed and animated.

It also seems to have more of a tendency than American films to have scenes near the end where some incredibly lame nonsensical pseudo-philosophy is spouted out that's supposed to explain everything and/or be a huge revelation to the audience, but is really just a tautology and/or stupid.

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[WingedEarth]

The only way to do that is to break the stranglehold that international bankers have over the art of film. I think HD production and digital distribution is a good start.

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[WingedEarth]

Those aren't all from last year, but I'll give you that there a few good ones on that list. The greater majority, though, is utter crap, some poorly crafted, and others simply degenerative non-art.

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[Enderandrew]

"Wallace and Grommit

A British film, and based on existing characters; not a sequel as such, but not entirely original either."

It was an original film. But I will concede it is British.

"War of the Worlds

Remake of a film based on a book."

No one criticized the radio play for being "unoriginal". Adapting material to a new medium is not an easy thing to do. Either way, the 2005 version is completely different from any previous movie version, the radio play, and the book. The characters and story of the movie are completely original. The only things pulled from the source material is the concept that Martians invade, and are stopped by microbes. But the book, previous movies, and radio drama deal with the subject on a much larger scale. This movie is a small, personal tale.

"House of Flying Daggers

Was that a Hollywood film? (Genuine question)"

No.

"Match Point

I thought this was British, but could be wrong."

Hollywood. This was Woody Allen, and if you believe the critics, his best work in years.

"Chronicles of Narnia

Remake."

Adaptation, but there wasn't a previous Narnia movie that I'm aware of.

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[Enderandrew]

Opinion is always subjective, but if you believe the greater majority (let's say 2/3?) of those movies are utter crap, I will suggest that you have no taste in movies. I will support my argument with the fact that all of those movies made SEVERAL "Best of 2005" lists, and had the highest scores from movie goes on Rotten Tomatoes.

And given that I picked all those movies from lists of movies released in 2005, I'm pretty sure those were all last year.

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[Threni]

> Franz Kafka: The Nostradamus of the post 9/11 United States

Please could you refrain from using my favourite author, and a French quack whose predictions practically never came true, in the same sentence?

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[Tim C]

Since when does this make it an unoriginal film?

Well, it's not an original story, it's not an original concept, it's not the first adaptation of a graphic novel, it's not the first to use elements of comic book style in its cinematography (Hulk did that too at least) - need I go on?

Just goes to show that you didn't see this film.

I've seen it a number of times; my daughter has it on DVD. I didn't say it was an exact copy of the first one (or of the book), I was disputing that it was an original film. Besides, apart from the sub-plot of Wonka's dysfunctional relationship with his father and the flash-backs, the two films are (of course) very similar. "The same as the old one, with extra bits and different songs" doesn't make it original.

Again, I'm not saying that either film was bad (although the end of Sin City was a little bleak for my taste and I'm not convinced the cinematography truly worked), just that they're not what I'd use as examples of original content.

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[bhima]

sorry, it's the inevitable consequence of reading das Schloss while traveling to the USA.

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[SirWinston]

I was reading Seven Seasons of Buffy: Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers Discuss Their Favorite Television Show, and one of the writers mentioned he'd had a writing teacher say that there are only 2 basic plots--"a stranger comes to town," and "somebody goes on a journey." A fairly pointless oversimplification, but it does fit...

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[kimvette]

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe were remakes; however both were very necessary, IMHO.

In the case of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, the original take was vastly different from the book; that is, the only similarities were character names and the most basic premise (e.g., Charlie wins one of the five golden tickets). Pretty much everything else was different from the book. The original with Gene Wilder was still fun to watch (and the analog CGI lyrics were interesting to watch, making the LSD/hippy influence obvious) but it was pretty much an original story. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory with Johnny Depp still veered from the book, but not drastically so. Both are fun to watch, both featured great actors as Willy Wonka, but I much prefer the newer one since a) Johnny Depp did a great job portraying a surreal man-child (Wacko Jacko-like, only without the sexual/pedophile creepiness) - while watching that I almost think that Depp BELIEVED he WAS Wonka, and b) Charlie was written with much better dialog. I always cringed when Charlie goes into this drawn-out monologue with his mother saying "I'm not going to win that ticket, in case you're wondering. I'm not going to win that ticket. Blah blah blah." That, IMHO, ranks among the worst-written scenes in the history of cinema. The musicals in the Wilder movie are great, but Charlie's lines? Eh, not so much.

Now, in the case of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe: I read C.S. Lewis "Chronicles of Narnia" series straight through (all seven books) about once every year (I even found a PDF of it online, which makes it much more convenient for when I'm waiting for meetings to start, while traveling, etc.) and I enjoy it all the more every time. I'm glad they remade this with modern effects because the original BBC productions of this series are painful to watch, and lousy even by special effects and makeup standards in its own time. Heck, The Wizard of Oz uses mid-1930s special effects techniques and the end result is much more enjoyable. Also, the modern take, while not 100% true to the book, is about as good as anyone could possibly expect anyone to produce within the typical 90-120 minute runtime which American audiences seem to require -- Plus much of the movie scenery was EXACTLY how I had always pictured it from C.S. Lewis' descriptions; the lantern waste, the White Witch's castle, Mr. Tumnus' dwelling, and so forth. I'd prefer the movie were more complete and extended like LoTR was, but I don't think that it would have done as well at the box office had it been more complete and used less creative license. I hope that the rest of the series is more extended (plus I heard an extended cut is being released on DVD, which I am really looking forward to).

The thing is: some remakes are worthwhile, and in some cases almost required to do the original novel/book/story justice, while others are money grabs capitalizing on a franchise. Revenge of the Nerds is a perfect example of that: it was very well done (at least I and II were), as were Police Academy I and II. After the second movies, both franchises got REALLY stupid because the producers seemed to think they had to go more and more over the top, but those original movies were done so well, and are so silly, fun to watch, WHILE having a plot, that any remake can only hurt the franchise.

Serenity: the Firefly series going to the big screen: I don't think it did well because there was not enough promotion. The network did the worst possible thing they could in every way concerning handling of the series (airing it opposite Stargate:SG1, which was already well-established, not promoting it enough (just like Arrested Development), and not premiering it following a show with a strong following (e.g., Simpsons). I never even knew Firefly existed until it was canceled, and only saw it courtesy Bittorrent after hearing how good iwas (by then, it was already off the air). When it came to Serenity, I thought it was a

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[kimvette]

I, for one, welcome our claymation overlords, and respectfully request more Wallace and Gromit.

Thanks for listening, Aardman Animations. :)

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[Tweekster]

Citizen Kane, the most overrated movie in history.

Maybe you shouldnt equate OLD with good.

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[TheVelvetFlamebait]

Dude, you have the least consistent taste in movies that I have ever seen.

Specifically, why did you call Brokeback Mountain "GAY CRAP", and not Capote? You obviously don't know the first thing about gay crap.

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[doom]

The Upside of Anger Very good--a pleasant surprise. Does anyone play a better dumbass than Kevin Costner?

Keeanu Reeves.

(I guess I'll skip the obvious Dubya joke.)

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[the honger]

You thought "Batman Begins" was a good movie and that "Citizen Kane" is overrated. Jeezus Christ, are you a fuckin' 2 yr. old? Wait until you get older and discover Japanese porn---it will "relieve" any attachment you have to "Memoirs of a Geisha".

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[Enderandrew]

Christopher Nolan hasn't made a bad film.

I own Following, Memento, Batman Begins, and his best work is probably The Prestige.

Mark Twain said the classics are something that everyone talks about, and no one reads. I bet a dollar to a doughnut you've never seen Citizen Kane. As a student of film, I've seen Citizen Kane.

It is horribly, horribly overrated. It goes no where. It really has no point. And in the age when very few films were made, it had little competition. In an age where thousands of movies are made each year today, there is more competition.

I don't care for your base, personal, and worthless insults regarding Japanese porn.

Memoirs of a Geisha isn't nearly as good as the novel, which focuses more on how torn she was between obligation and what she wanted, but the movie did still win a couple Oscars, so yes it must be utter trash.

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[Fred_A]

For instance, this year Edmund may be one of the best movies of the year, but no one has seen it.

A persistent rumour also states that a stupendous movie will be released in 2011. However it hasn't been written yet so nobody can comment on it.

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[geekoid]

AS a studen of film, you should also know that the Oscars don't have to do anything with a 'good' film.

They have everything to do with what kind of film the committee feels people should be watching.

Sometimes the Oscar pick arepopular movies, but even when I lived in LA and OC I would be hard pressed to find someone outside the industry that had any interest in even 2 of the oscar picks.

I like Citizen Kane, and I also like Batman Begins.
I like Citizen Kne because it was more of an experimental film in what people will enjoy in film. Because theywere still really trying to figure out where thes movie thing was going.

I like Batman Begins because it was a kick ass Batman Flick. Even though it did have some really stupid seens, and as always, Gorgon gets the shaft. Granted he was better then the last Gordon.

I hope the get the same crue together for the Next movie, and lets hope we get to see the Joker. . . and possible Superman in a cameo.

Japanese porn it very twisted. TO be expected from an uptight sosciety. heh, ever watch 'hard gay' on you tube? total Japanese counter-culture.

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[the honger]

Yes, I have seen "Citizen Kane", son, and student of cinema, and as a student you must have yet been educated at some point that society is only the result of requiring all people to walk backwards sumultaneously, and not the actual attempt at requiring that. I apologize for the quip about the still blank memoir, and hopefully you would accept this recommendation that you view "The Sword of Doom". And "Ugetsu". And "F is for Fake". And "Ran". And "Brasil". And "The Bad Sleep Well". And "Andrei Rublev". And "Straight to Hell". And "Yi-Yi". And "The Night Nurse". And...do something useful with your life...good lord there are so many more but you have to go and pick that junk? Fukin' 1 yr. old! *pant pant pant* Sorry. And stop "owning" this stuff..it's like owning typhoid...get rid of it!

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[the honger]

I will not be pushed, pulled, filed, indexed, briefed, de-briefed, or numbered! Aaauuughhh!

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[the honger]

son: Father, this is my male lover father: go out that fukin' window!

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[the honger]

so, how does this work here on slashdot. all these 1s i'm getting do i like add them up after awhile? that would be like 5 or something. or do you guys do that for me?

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[the honger]

and if you're in the Chicago area during this week the Music Box Theater has a small selection of Kenji Mizoguchi's "that which is not available on DVD, yet"..."Life of Oharu"...bliss!...schmuck

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[RyuuzakiTetsuya]

You forgot the funniest movie of the decade.

Borat.

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[drsquare]

What, better than the British? I rather doubt that, mate.

The American documentaries are better in terms of number of commercials, overblown narration, and background music etc. In terms of actual informative content, maybe not.

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[jellomizer]

Not just that but "Revenge of the Nerds" really make geeks and smart people look in a bad light. Discouraging many kids (boys especially) from entering the Math/Sciences or just even pretending to be smart. Part of the problem with today's education system that for Decades TV and Movies portrait smart people as unpopular, social outcasts, or some how physically, and/or socially handicapped. Revenge of the Nerds, Head of the Class, Saved by the Bell, Step by Step, Simpsons, even the painter Norman Rockwell and the list goes on and on.
Kids today are socially trained not to make public their success in school and defiantly not encourage it among other children, as well their parents who don't want their kids to be socially outcast will not pressure them too hard to succeed too. So now the social outcasts who have nothing to loose decide to get smart with get better grades in school. While the more popular who have a lot to loose if they were considered Nerds try to distant themselves as Smart and focus more on their popularity and coolness.
And what does that bring. Well Look around, teams of engineers, programmers, scientists... with a general contempt of man kind and most without any good people skills so even if the world is going to end they will not be listen to, because the way they say it they tend to insult the bulk of the population, making them not like you and not listen to you. As well there are a growing number of (Smart) people who are unqualified to meet our nation's needs. And the ones who do go threw school may also end up as those managers who can't manage and don't even understand what your job is or sales people who do not know the limit to computing.
So I am happy the "Revenge of the Nerds" has been cancelled. As well they should start putting more shows that have smart people who are not social outcasts. Have the shows Eye Candy Mr./Miss popular using Linux or installing Linux. Have them use the scientific method to solve some of their problems, heck have them play some D&D in moderation. Make sure the characters starts out cool and stays cool, and if they get the Girl or Guy don't make it like the stereotypical Geek get the babe after Years and Years of trying and the Hot babe will for years and years see him/her as worst then the last man on earth gag.

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[Dabido]

'"Chronicles of Narnia
Remake."
Adaptation, but there wasn't a previous Narnia movie that I'm aware of.'

There is a series of films, but they're British, filmed a while ago as well. I saw 'The Lion The Witch and the Wardrobe' and 'Prince Caspian' back in 1990, so that says something about how old the films were. I can't be bothered googling for a link.

The problem with the list you gave [I feel], is that a lot of them weren't that well received by critics, even if they were box office successes. I read only bad things about King Kong and War of the Worlds. I haven't seen either to make up my own mind. Almost everyone I know who saw both of those films told me not to bother going to see them. I figure I'll see them one day on DVD or on TV anyway. Anyway, no movies have really caught my attention for years. Last movie I saw was Return of the King.

I own House of Flying Daggers on DVD. Glad it made it onto the list. I plan on seeing Capote eventually, but only as I'm a Capote fan. I figured it wasn't a movie that needed a huge screen.

But, a lot of the films on your list, people I knew told me not to bother seeing them. As you've said yourself, you've only seen 1/3 to 1/2 of them. So, like me, you are just relying on other peoples opinion (for the ones you didn't see) as to whether they were good or not. Many critics often disagree as to what makes a good movie, and even box office successes are often 'bad films' that just got a lot of hype.

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[ZzzzSleep]

Quoth drsquare

The American documentaries are better in terms of number of commercials, overblown narration, and background music etc. In terms of actual informative content, maybe not.

And American documentaries seem to be constantly recapping... are they worried that people watching will have forgotten what they were told 3 minutes ago?

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[tsq]

Pointing out that things are adaptations/remakes is only strengthening the GP's point, namely that there's plenty of source material for hollywood to use for its movies (and that we aren't stealing everything from the japanese, who base a lot of their animation/cinema on printed material themselves).

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[the honger]

after thinking about typhoid for a night I would like to change it to diarrhea

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[NulDevice]

Hey, our documentaries saved your documentaries' asses in WWII!

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[mockchoi]

Citizen Kane has no point and goes nowhere? I can understand if you don't like the film (it's awfully slow by today's standards), but it's ALL point, and it's ALL going somewhere, to get to that point.

Re:Good.

[Impy the Impiuos Imp]

The first, a musical, had about as much to do with the original book, which I did read, as the Friend of Dorthy Wizard of Oz had with the original book. Oz "purists" were much more satisfied with the remake (sequel) Oz from 15 years ago, that wasn't a musical, but was much more "true to the books".

Ever hear of it anymore? I rest my case.

Oz, Wonka, sheesh. I suppose someone's gonna start bitching that the Little Shop of Horrors musical bore little resemblence to the original B&W movie, "god damn it!"

Re:Good.

[Impy the Impiuos Imp]

[quote]Mark Twain said the classics are something that everyone talks about, and no one reads. I bet a dollar to a doughnut you've never seen Citizen Kane. As a student of film, I've seen Citizen Kane.

It is horribly, horribly overrated. It goes no where. It really has no point.[/quote]

Sounds to me like you took your class from a tard-o-matic professor with a chip on his shoulder the size of Wells' (well-deserved) ego.

An epic covering the life of the then-equivalent of a multi-billionaire, exploring his tragic flaw in gory detail over the decades "goes no where"?

You sound like the kind of lunatic who hears "it's a sled!" and then things, "what the hell is the point of watching it now?"

Re:Good.

[Impy the Impiuos Imp]

> [Oscars] have everything to do with what kind of film the committee feels people should be watching.

Watching...for the purpose of earning more ticket sales, as was the express, stated purpose of the formation of the Oscar awards to begin with. Know your context, and the understanding just flows easily. Similar to "follow the money/power" in understanding politics.

Re:Good.

[Impy the Impiuos Imp]

I mean, shit, it hasn't even been colorized, yet. >:(

Re:Good.

[Enderandrew]

About Schmidt is another film that is all about getting to a single point, but it doesn't take a straight line there. You just wait and watch a mediocre movie for two hours, and then they try to throw a meaning at you at the end, to suggest it was a clever means of getting a point across.

But neither the journey, nor the "point" are very entertaining.

Re:Good.

[mockchoi]

It may not be entertaining, I don't know. Entertainment means different things to different people. Citizen Kane certainly doesn't 'throw a meaning to you at the end' though. I don't think it's even supposed to be a 'clever' ending, you don't learn anything new from it; the ending is just sort of a denouement. Besides, as a student of film, you should value it for it's impact on culture. There are references and allusions to it everywhere, to the point where I bet a lot of people that haven't seen the movie would know large parts of it. Everything from the Simpsons to the White Stripes to some of my kid's movies I've just seen recently have references to it.

Re:Good.

[Enderandrew]

Everyone refers to the Scarlet Letter all the time as well, but that doesn't make it a good book.

Poor move on Emory's part...

[soapbox]

Frankly, with as many spoiled rich kids that come to Emory's undergrad program, we need all the geek credibility we can get.

Plus, imagine all the Coca-Cola product placements!

Sets

[solevita]

Could they not film it somewhere else?

Re:Sets

[WarlockD]

{Variety} - The nerds haven't found paradise yet!

Production on one of Fox Atomic's first films -- a remake of the 1984 cult classic "Revenge of the Nerds" -- has been shut down after Emory University in Atlanta, where more than a third of the film was to be shot, backed out of its agreement to allow Fox to film on campus. It's believed that Emory officials ultimately balked at the raunchy nature of the project.

Fox was alerted to the issue four days before the shoot was planned to start on Oct. 9. After attempting to shoot at other colleges in Atlanta, the decision was made to call it quits and figure out a new plan.

Production is now officially on hiatus, with the clock ticking, considering that winter (and snow) is approaching, and much of the film is set outdoors in autumn, back-to-school weather.

A Fox Atomic rep said that Fox was still hoping to release the film in August and that all of the cast and crew -- presently being flown back from Atlanta -- remain intact.

"Revenge of the Nerds" is planned as one of the debut releases for newly launched Fox Atomic, Fox's teen-oriented genre label. The label's first release is "Turistas," which bows Dec. 1, followed by "The Hills Have Eyes 2" on March 2 and "28 Weeks Later," which unspools May 11.

Also in production at Fox Atomic is the comedy "The Comebacks."
Quick Google Source Here

Sounds like they didn't want to make a winter movie. The REAL question though is if they are going for next August, how good is this movie really going to be? They have to change colleges and set up completely somewhere else and if they are waiting for after winter, that's only a few months of shooting

Odd about this production company. They are making two sequels to moderately decent movies (The hills have Eyes" and "28 Weeks Later" and their first movie "Turistas" is coming/out now (ref: here) Are they just rolling the dice to see what movies stick?

Re:Sets

[The Ultimate Fartkno]

Scheduling the production of a full-blown feature film is - to say the least - a bitch. From what what I've read (which is little, since I wouldn't have gone to see the remake if you held a gun to my head) they were shooting 99% of the movie on the Emory campus, so they essentially had their entire schedule tossed out the window when their location got yanked. That means shutting the entire movie down until it's reset / rescheduled, and at that point things only get worse. Are any of your actors scheduled to work on any other shows during your new schedule? Gotta recast or offer them enough cash to quit the other job, which they won't do because that'll get them blacklisted for being unreliable (and let's face it, if you're starring in a ROTN remake you probably need all the good press you can get.) Same with crew. Do you keep them on the clock while you reschedule? If not, they all go find new jobs and you now have to find an all-new crew. Plus, all this delay is eating into your post-production schedule. The movie is already scheduled for release next summer and you just lost - what, a month? Two? If the studio was fully behind the movie and was willing to throw piles of cash at it those are all obstacles that can be overcome, but if the studio was fully behind the movie then it would be being made by Fox proper and not Fox Moonbat or whatever the sub-studio is called. Emory pulled the plug, the accountants said "write it off," and that was the end for that movie. All for the best, frankly. The original is perfect as it is. They'd make more money by re-releasing the first one then a remake would ever see.

Re:Sets

[Reverend528]

Do you know of another university that has a $1,000,000 landscaping endowment?

Re:Sets

[Vlad_the_Inhaler]

I am a bit surprised Fox Atomic had not signed some form of contract with Emory. That would have allowed them to sue for breach of contract. I suppose all this means that Fox Atomic were not going to pay Emory.

Re:Sets

[WarlockD]

I hadn't thought of that. Hummm.

Though, even if there was a contract, I doubt they want to sue over it. If they did, it might hurt their chances at other colleges.

IF this thing gets of the ground.

Re:Sets

[Scarletdown]

Production is now officially on hiatus, with the clock ticking, considering that winter (and snow) is approaching, and much of the film is set outdoors in autumn, back-to-school weather.

They could always find a university somewhere south of the Equator and start their filming in March, since that would be the start of autumn down there.

Re:Sets

[javachip]

*holding pinky to mouth* I demand one million dollars for my landscaping endowment! Muwahahaha....

The new outsourcing paradigm

[romit_icarus]

Since the original flick, all the nerds are now in India! What the producers should do is shift base from Emory to an Indian university. Perhaps one of the IITs (www.iitb.ac.in)!

Now that will be real and oh so funny

Re:The new outsourcing paradigm

[Zaphod2016]

This sounds like a great flick. They could call it "Harold and Kumar explain why you should have bought the extended warranty".

Re:The new outsourcing paradigm

[middlemen]

Well actually in India, unlike the USA, kids/students who are really good at academics are valued and respected as opposed to kids/students who are sportsmen. In fact, it is very common in India, that if a kid is good at sports, the first thing people ask is "Is that kid bad at academics ?". Academics comes first, and then comes everything else.

Re:The new outsourcing paradigm

[sgt_doom]

I suspect the attitudes may be somewhat different in India in respect to nerds (having bummed around the Near East and Asia after military service many eons ago). Therefore, I would humbly suggest they move it to Amazon.com - home to many transplanted Indian nerds and lowbrow American riff-raff.....

Re:The new outsourcing paradigm

[Austerity Empowers]

Ok, but we have school teachers who can't teach math, period. My 5th grade teacher left me stupefied about "PEMDAS", but she did manage to teach us yoga and meditation (I'm serious). There is some evidence that our priorities are really screwed up. The competitiveness in academics in other countries is sometimes insane, but a LITTLE competition and respect might not be so bad either. There's no question our athletes are pushed to succeed, but in academics...I haven't seen anything other than parental pressure, mostly directed at getting in to one of the top tier colleges. Once there...eh. Hell, even in politics science & math takes a back burner to "common sense" be it religion or man on the street think.

Re:The new outsourcing paradigm

[davidgay]

Are America's academic programs more challenging? It's difficult to achieve high marks in many American schools, isn't it? Or haven't you been a student here before?

Today's most hilarious post - we have a winner! AFAICT, the US is the land of straight A's and grade inflation (my experience is for college, but I somehow doubt high school is harder). In many other places, perfect grades at high school or college is basically unheard of (as in, maybe one person every 10 years), and many people get non-passing grades.

David Gay

Re:The new outsourcing paradigm

[Jalestra]

Why not point out that our athletes are higher paid in obscene amounts than our cops, teachers, firemen, and yes, most academics. I would say that it obviously places the importance of athletes over those other jobs. Not to mention children would rather be an athlete and be a star football player where the community cheers him every weekend and he can get a football draft than a "nerd", who noone but his parents really notice. Who cheers on the nerd every weekend? I tend to notice the nerd doesn't get the prettiest girl, the pats on the back, nor can a nerd get excused from class to go follow a more meaningful interest than his team is playing tonight. When there are riots in the street because a team won or lost, but not over the state of government or the abuse of science..one does have to wonder where the people of America's priorities are...in 10 years whether that team won or lost will be meaningless, but where our government is as it relates to it's actions now will be VERY important, good or bad.

Re:The new outsourcing paradigm

[Turn-X Alphonse]

This comming from an American where everyone else sees you as little kids fighting to "be the best" even though you're all dragging each other down, so even at your best you're still only average.

I'm not trying to troll or anything. But maybe if you guys cared less about winning and decided to just try and help each other out a little more you could become a great nation rather than one hated universally.

Bye bye Karma. Someone with mod points will think this is trolling but it's really not ment to be.

Re:The new outsourcing paradigm

[coolGuyZak]

India emphasizes their education far more than America does, and it isn't because individuals need "a better chance of [sic] escaping a truly hand to mouth style existence," albeit that does comprise one facet of their culture. Their perspective stems far through history, before British imperialism, and included one of the first known "public schools", the Gurukul.

The Gurukul is a cross between a school and a home. Students would leave their families and move in to the Gurukul to learn from the teacher who lived there, a Guru. By the time a student left, they were as an adult--capable of caring for themselves and others in the wider world. In return for this knowledge, students would perform chores, such as taking care of cows [1]. Another interesting phenomenon was the egalitarian nature of the Gurukul [2]. No matter your station in life, you were equal upon arrival.

The Indian education system reaches even farther back, albeit not in a formal manner. Before the Gurukul, there existed an oral tradition, "Guru-shishya". In English terms, this roughly means teacher-student. Even though it lacked a definitive focus--be it spiritual, physical, or mental--developments occurred within the context of spirituality, specifically that of Hinduism [3].

Many of the teachings of Hinduism, Jainism, and Sikhism further emphasize the role of education in India, particularly when evaluated with a postmodern perspective [4]. Each of these religions places a heavy emphasis on self-exploration, ethics, and spiritual awareness. To keep this at least somewhat brief, I will limit the topic to the most well known religion, Hinduism.

Early Hinduism was taught by rote in the Guru-shishya style. The Vedas collected these teachings, also known as mantra, in four texts containing a structured and codified set of instructions for practicing Hinduism [5]. (Think something akin to Leviticus in the Old Testament). The importance of these texts, as far as this response is concerned, lies mostly within the context for how they were taught. Even so, the ritualism seen within the Vedas may explain India's (like Japan's) current obsession with testing and memoriozed knowledge.

Partly in response to the rigidity of the Veda's, the Upanishads[6] were formed, and later included within the former texts. These books, of which there are 108, contain the "meat and potatoes" of Hinduism, so to speak. They are the most well known books, containing the majority of philosophy and poetry within Hindu texts, as well as serving as the foundation for the modern religion.

The importance of the Upanishads shines through when one considers the manner of their creation. Over several centuries, Gurus analyzed the Vedas, and later the Upanishads themselves and derived "the argument of Hinduism". Argument, in this case, is meant in the rational sense, albeit there are several debates within the texts themselves. The first Upanishads were annotated by Adi Shankara, a Vedanta philosopher[7], who travelled across India teaching and debating the philosophy underlying the Vedas.

The predominant method of teaching in India at this point was the Gurukul, which Shankara entered at age 5. Shankara's Guru encouraged him to write his first commentary on the Upanishads and travel across India as a philosopher. To do this, not only did Shankara need to be educated, but so did his audience. The mission would have been lost without a thorough knowledge of the Vedas, let alone an absence of critical thought--he would have no one to debate. And yet, he did find opponents, such as Mandana Mishra and Vyasa [8].

Before his death at age 32, Shankara established several Vedanta schools across India. These schools practiced more than religion--they also "gave equal importance to the personal experience of the student. Logic, grammar, Mimamsa [investigation] and allied subjects form main areas of study in all the Vedanta schools,"[9]. And this occurred during the 8th century--about mid-way through the European dark ages. Europe

Re:The new outsourcing paradigm

[Austerity Empowers]

People work best together when they are working personal agenda with significant tangible stakes and where cooperation produces personal benefit. It gets destructive when either the number of winners are excessively small, or when there is nothing at all worth competing over.

There are no shortage of good schools in the US. If you don't get in to MIT, there are so many other schools that offer equal education and opportunities that there's almost no reason to bother with it. Not so in some other countries. That may be part of the problem w/US education.

Another problem is that professional football, baseball, basketball and hockey positions are naturally limited and offer incredible rewards if achieved. Outside of athletics the only career choices that have quite the same expectation values are acting and "business", both are not heavily backed by strong academics. Doctors, lawyers and engineers all can do pretty well, but aren't that hard to get in to, and aren't very likely to make millions. Science remains a profession similar to professional art: only the really motivated can afford to pursue it.

This particular set of constraints doesn't exist elsewhere. There are big stakes for good engineers in India right now. China is busily trying to increase its technical industry to free itself from the West. There are big stakes for brainiacs, and less for entertainers or "american-style" businessmen (snake oil production optimizers).

Re:The new outsourcing paradigm

[imagin8r]

Oh, incidentally, proofs are no longer taught in geometry -- I was shocked when my son's teacher told me that proofs are optional because they tend to bog down the kids. So there!

Re:The new outsourcing paradigm

[khchung]

Academics comes first, and then comes everything else.Not only India, this attitude is generally true for almost all asian countries also (e.g. Japan, China, Korea, SE Asia countries, etc).

Can any one in the USA (and not having Asian parents) imagine that there are training schools that train 5 year old kids (and their parents) for the admission interview for primary schools? (Note: not preparing their academic ability, but just for the interview itself! How to behave, what to say, what best answer for what kind of questions, etc.)

Re:The new outsourcing paradigm

[coolGuyZak]

a couple reasons:
1) Education does not give Indians a better chance to change their lives; the competition for employment is just as fierce even after you have an education.
2) The statement wreaks of cultural imperialism, assuming that a hand to mouth existence is not liked by any Indians. I did make an assumption, however, that hand-to-mouth meant an absence of modern living: running water, literacy, and consumerism in general. If the AC I replied to meant "starving poverty", than this assumption was incorrect.

Casting problem

[Gription]

I suspect it was really pulled because they couldn't get Lisa Simpson for the movie. (and they were smart enough to not even try for Paris Hilton...)

see> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/22/133825 5

No longer works.

[bohemian72]

Thanks to Troy Bolton and Gabriella Montez. This whole tri-lambda hatin' on the Alpha Betas and vice versa just doesn't work.
They showed us that we're all in this together and if jocks want to sing or bake, or if the nerds want to get down to hip hop, or skaters dudes want to play the cello...we gotta be there for them!
This whole new outlook could be the start of something new.
Get your head in the game! It doesn't just apply to the basketball court anymore...

I blame...

[vistic]

RO-BOT HOOOOOUSE!!!

Thank gods

[Lord Apathy]

Thank you Zeus, Budda, God, one of you guys was listening.

Re: Thank gods

[Dante Shamest]

Maybe it was Hades, Cthulhu, or Lucifer. I mean there's got to be some depths even those guys wouldn't sink to.

Re:Thank gods

[Anonymous Coward]

Buddha is not revered as a god or deity. in fact, the buddha himself found the idea of gods and deities quite rather silly. The Buddha is revered for simply being a man, just like you and i.

Re:Thank gods

[Superpants]

If it was really divine intervention, I'd expect the sequels to the original movie to be unmade as well.

Re:Thank gods

[Lord Apathy]

Sequels? There where sequels. Damn I had blocked all those out. Damn You for making me remember that!

Bender says

[idonthack]

CHEESE IT!

Alternative idea

[swordgeek]

OK, this is a bit out there, but bear with me.
Couldn't they maybe...make an original movie?

Re:Alternative idea

[aplusjimages]

"Everybody worked very hard on 'Revenge of the Nerds,' and we're all extremely disappointed that we can't move forward," said Fox Atomic's Peter Rice.

How much more work could there be on a remake? These guys are not only unoriginal, but have no perspective of hard work.

This is a civil-rights violation!!!

[davidwr]

"No one's really gonna to be free until nerd persecution ends."
-Revenge of the Nerds, 1984

Stop the presses!

[__aaclcg7560]

Hollywood just announced a new movie that's going into production: Attack of the 50-Foot Geek Girls!

Re:Stop the presses!

[corychristison]

Attack of the 50-Foot Geek Girls! Geek Girls with 50 feet?

;-)

Re:Stop the presses!

[__aaclcg7560]

If that's a mistake, then the original movie title that I based it on is wrong.

Great!

[Luscious868]

We're spared from another craptastic Hollywood remake. Excuse me if I don't shed a tear.

Credibility? After Denmark's road safety film?

[jd]

It's blatantly obvious that Denmark is trying to identify the geeks "out there".

Georgia Tech

[nucal]

The real Revenge of the Nerds will be when Georgia Tech beats Georgia in football today ...

Re:Georgia Tech

[fisher182]

how'd that turn out for you? oops.

Re:Georgia Tech

[nucal]

If you really want to laugh, you should see how my NCAA Basketball brackets usually turn out ...

Wouldn't have worked anyway...

[BTWR]

I didn't see the script for this, but I dount the new RotN would have been good anyway.

The original flick was a great film about "nerd persecution" in the 1980s. Back then, being a "nerd" was something that was truly dreaded. Not like today's "cool nerd" or "geek chic" like Weezer or Marc Cuban. Seriously, go watch the original movie, an substitute "nerd" for "black" or any other group. They were persecuted, driven out of their homes, had basically a direct-allusion to a burning cross outside their house (a burning "Nerds" sign), rocks thrown in their windows ("Nerds Get Out"), etc.

The 2nd movie was "ok" and the 3rd and 4th were awful. But all three of those were simply comedies, not in the same manner as the first one, which was a funny comedy, but subtly wrapped in a deeper social message. No, I'm not saying RotN was some amazingly socially insightful movie. But that doesn't mean that it didn't have some surprising amount of depth to it either...

Re:Wouldn't have worked anyway...

[Rudeboy777]

That's all well and good, but I still stand by my childhood assessment of loving this film for the boobies!

Re:Wouldn't have worked anyway...

[operagost]

That's MY pie!

Re:Wouldn't have worked anyway...

[Doctor Faustus]

Forget the boobies. I have to go with Lewis on this one: "How could you ever get tired of that ass staring up at you?"

JJJOOOOOOOOOCKS!!!!!!

[sven_kirk]

Anyway. No offense to Emory students, but isn't that school full of nerds anyway. Only place that I could see it happen (in Georgia) is Ga. Tech.

Don't take this the wrong way, but...

[Eevee]

Why didn't you just put "Being John Malkovich" and "Bubba Ho-tep" in your post instead of using unnamed links? It's not like it makes your point any better; in fact, it makes it weaker to those who don't click on links. At the very least, you could have anchored the links to the film titles.

Re:Don't take this the wrong way, but...

[Cylix]

Because that person just links amazon for placement and pulls a referral fee.

Re:Don't take this the wrong way, but...

[feepness]

Why didn't you just put "Being John Malkovich" and "Bubba Ho-tep" in your post instead of using unnamed links?

If you don't know about Bubba Ho-Tep then you are not in a thread on Slashdot reading about a Revenge of the Nerds Remake.

You just aren't.

Re:Don't take this the wrong way, but...

[mlush]

He must have typoed this time and linked to IMDB

The real reason for canceling the movie!

[itz2000]

The producing company understood that nowdays nerds don't go to the cinema at all!
They download it from amule/bittorrent/kazaa(?)/other p2p progz, that's why the movie wouldn't be making profit at all

So they canceled the movie.
Like Mr. Holmes once said : Easy solution for easy problem [well, he never actually said it... but ignore that I've invented this quote].

Which Police Academy?

[Anonymous Coward]

Which Police Academy? The one with the guy who makes the funny sounds with his mouth or the one where the uptight captain is always hassling the new recruits?

Be afraid

[tm2b]

They'll probably just replace it with a reality show of the same name.

Put it on You Tube

[SoyChemist]

Whenever a movie gets scrapped after some photography has been completed, they should do a rough edit and put it on You Tube. They could even make a contest out of editing it.

Re:Put it on You Tube

[Aladrin]

Yes, because 'throwing good money after bad' is ALWAYS a great idea.

If they could do it for free, then I'd say 'great!' but there are very very few editors willing to work for free, and even fewer financers willing to let go of something they paid for, even if it's obviously garbage now.

Re:Put it on You Tube

[An Onerous Coward]

I agree that don' nobody in Hollywood give away the rights to nuttin', but if you put the raw footage and the script out there, there are plenty of people with the skills, equipment, and free time to do something with it. If the results were good enough, it might even get them some notice.

I wouldn't have gone to watch the finished product, but if somebody remastered it into a sepia-toned silent film...

Yea!

[nurb432]

There really is a god!

2 weeks

[billcopc]

So what they're basically saying is: Emory U was interested at first, and now that the film has been shot they've changed their mind ?

What the hell happened during those 2 weeks that brought about the change ? This would have gone through an executive board, and fines probably paid for breach of contract. Cancelling a movie isn't something you do on a whim.

Re:2 weeks

[Crusty Cracker]

I doubt it's as simple as that... the filmakers were probably tearing up the grounds or being too invasive when filming. Emory wouldn't have risked breach of contract for no reason.

Obligatory...

[Dunbal]

Here's a list that will speak to the masses:
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      torrent plz ;)

Hollywod?

[BancBoy]

Is that where they make porn?

Speaking as a nerd...

[dangitman]

I swear REVENGE!

What a miscarriage of justice. Just when you think nerds are getting some respect, some grumpy old Dean keeps us down again. How many times must we make our revenge? Even nerds don't have calculators that count that high.

Two Weeks In, Are You Kidding?

[Nom du Keyboard]

If they were already two weeks into the actual shooting then this movie was well along the way to happening somehow. I can't believe someone would throw up their hands and say, "Okay, you don't want us. We quit! End of movie. Pack it up and everybody just go home."

I'd expect alternative locations to be actively scouted within an hour of the announcement, if they hadn't already been before selecting this one in the first place. They should have been back on track within a week -- two at the outside. There's just too much money already committed to this project to end it at this point. Makes me question the entire premise of this article.

Re:Two Weeks In, Are You Kidding?

[QueenOfSwords]

Well, my guess is its starts looking increasingly unlikely if they can't line up another location *quickly*, because then filmmakers start running into problems with the actor's schedules (contracts would have to be negotiated, they may have other projects lined up) to say nothing of the crew.

Familiar with the English language?

[Mengoxon]

The article says that production was ceased, not cancelled

Re:the plot

[name*censored*]

wisecracking, you forgot the whistleblower/protagonist has to be wisecracking.

But I'm sure that sounds like a plot from some sci fi show or something :S Or a little like AntiTrust, but on a bigger scale.

The real reason...

[SonicSpike]

... is because it isn't cool to make fun of nerds anymore!

To quote Billy Madison: "if peeing in your pants is cool, then I'm Miles Davis"

*collapses and starts praying again*

[VTMarik]

Oh thank you sweet merciful God!

Nerds, Geeks, Dweebs, Dorks and Beautiful People

[Jehosephat2k]

Well, you got the Nerds, The Geeks, the Dweebs and the Beautiful People.

My 10 year old daughter was explaining the difference to me recently.

I thin kthe order of preference is

1> The Beautiful People
2> Nerds
3> Geeks
4> Dweeb

She showed me a Ven diagram she made.

Disconnected, of course. One circle was the Beautiful people, the other was
an interesection of the Nerds and the Geeks. And she said where the nerds and geeks overlapped, well, those
were the Dweebs.

So, no nerds, geeks or dweebs are beautiful people, but some nerds are geeks, and vice versa, and those are the dweebs.

Oh, and then there were the Dorks. Dorks were subsets of the Dweebs? Or maybe disconected from them all. It's all so confusing.

Re:Nerds, Geeks, Dweebs, Dorks and Beautiful Peopl

[geekoid]

"She showed me a Ven diagram she made."

well, she'll be ripe for middle managment. You might want to get that child a toy... or a book on getting VC* money.

Anybody who thinks that's 'Van Cleef' needs to stop playing WoW forever.

Re:Nerds, Geeks, Dweebs, Dorks and Beautiful Peopl

[Jehosephat2k]

Anybody who thinks that's 'Van Cleef' needs to stop playing WoW forever.

That's hitting below the belt :) Hey, nice call on that. The Van Cleef nation rules!!!!! (1665 and on!)

Re:Nerds, Geeks, Dweebs, Dorks and Beautiful Peopl

[Jehosephat2k]

Wait! Alexandra? I love you, man! LOL

Re:the plot

[crucini]

Sounds awfully familiar. What would be even better is if our hero realizes at the last minute that the agency is not trying to wipe out humanity; it's just a BS rumor started by some guy on the internet. So he tracks the guy down and gives him 20 lashes with his own mouse cord.

Re:Nerds, Geeks, Dweebs, Dorks and Beautiful Peopl

[johnny6vasquez]

What about the sportos, motorheads, sluts, bloods, waistoids and dickheads?

They all adore him

[Slashdot Parent]

They think he's a righteous dude.