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Geeks In Asia Use Clever Hacks To Get Slashdot

Daedius writes "My comrade Hugh Perkins is living in Asia and he has been without reliable internet connectivity for many days. He uses l33t hacks to get his daily dose of Slashdot in desperate times." From the posting: "The Taiwan earthquake has brought telecommunications in the Taiwan/Hong Kong region to a standstill. I am living in Shenzhen and am unable to read Slashdot directly for several days. Gmail and Google have privileged bandwidth and local servers and both continue to work perfectly from the region. Could there be some way to use Google or Gmail to read Slashdot? A solution was to upload an executable to my web hosting in America that would receive zipped executables by email, execute them, then email me the results."

154 comments

  1. Elegance, Windows, UNIX by P(0)(!P(k)+P(k+1)) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Résumé of TFA:

    1. uses Visual Studio;
    2. emails himself arbitrary binaries;
    3. executes said binaries.

    Promiscuity and Windows must go hand in hand (bad joke there, anyone?); why the hell wouldn't he set up a dæmon that received URLs by email instead of arbitrary binaries?!

    Elegance may well be a UNIX thing.

    1. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not just search for slashdot on google and use the cache? Sure, it may be a little bit old but it only looks like it is currently a few hours behind. On the plus side there is no programming required and no private server required and no email required. On the other hand why not just setup a private web proxy on the private server. certainly that is an easier and more flexible hack than an email daemon program.

    2. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by mr_tenor · · Score: 1

      The Windows way seems to be to start with Microsoft's approved libraries and build a big application from scratch.

      Me, I would have thought 'wget', 'gzip' and 'mail' scheduled to run periodically would do the job. And without any "run arbitrary applications" stuff either

    3. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really hope he at least verifies gpg sigs before executing them.

      Why cant he just ssh in and use lynx?
      Why doesnt he set the mime type in the mail to text/html, rather than saving it in notepad?!

      If this guy is l33t, I'd really hate to see a lamer.

    4. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 5, Funny

      ``Promiscuity and Windows must go hand in hand (bad joke there, anyone?)''

      Is that why *nix users never get laid?

      --
      Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
    5. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by jarl1976 · · Score: 1

      Using google's cache would have been a nice solution, if it wasn't for the little detail that google's cache is blocked by the great firewall... And the proxy thing wouldn't have worked since the actual connection to the rest of the world was almost completely broken and the only internet site outside of china that really worked these days was google(at least for me).

    6. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by evilviper · · Score: 1
      Promiscuity and Windows must go hand in hand (bad joke there, anyone?);

      Windows users have toxoplasma gondii parasite?

      As if it's known symptoms weren't bad enough, this clever bug wears down it's host's defenses by compelling them to use Microsoft software...
      --
      Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
    7. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by lxt518052 · · Score: 1
      Indeed, the *nix way is far more elegant than the guy's solution. The guy's probably not aware of the tools available on a *nix host. Or worse, he could have chosen some IIS host, in which case, it's not likely he'd know *nix well.

      That being said, it's still a nice hacking attempt. He'd probably be converted to the *nix way sooner or later if reading slashdot is of such importance to him. Once the door is open, there're endless opportunities.

      --
      People who dislike China tend to mention Tiananmen Square a lot, but they always forget the Tank Man is also a Chinese.
    8. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Well for posting a story trying to show how good your coding is hoping to get a pat on the back, Slashdot is the worse place to do so.
      • Your choice of programming language will be judged. Someone will use an other language to show you the simpler solution, (although it may not work, or work for your situation).
      • The OS your program runs on. If it is Windows people go why the hell are you using Windows and point you to a Unix/Unix clone. (Even though over 90% of the people are using Windows, and at the time of the disaster and the remote system you have access to only runs windows apps)
      • Your coding style. If you do it in C, C++ or C# you better make sure your brackets are in the prescribed but yet debatable location.
      • Your Code. If it i longer then 5 lines (properly spaced) then someone will find a better smaller solution even though the code may be unreadable.

      Slashdot is filled a diverse group of people, Good Programmers who know they are good programmers, Bad Programmers Think they are the Best Programmers out there, Good Programmers who who think they are Bad programmers so (the tend to keep their mouth shut), Bad Programmers who know they are Bad Programmers, and Good programmers who think themselves as the Best programmers, and Bad Programmers who think them as actually good programers.

      The most vocal are those who think they are the best programmer out there, some may point to some award that they won in college (that a Lot of students didn't compete in) or show all the great stuff they made. These are also ones the most easily get get threatened by an other programmers code and find ways of knocking it down. Making sure the designer of the code fells as crummy as possible, so the guy can still keep the place in his mind that he is #1!

      The Good/Bad Programers who know/think they are Good normally may give a couple of corrections in the code just to make it work a little better of efficiently, or just admit that that isn't quite the same approach they would use, in there style they may accomplish the same task differently and make it more easier for them to read threw.

      The ones who think they are bad programmers will try to learn about the code hoping it will make them better programmers or just ignore it as a programming thing.

      As for my take on the solution, it does seem a bit overkill, but you need to keep in mind that .NET adds a lot of additional code that other higher level languages (such as python) doesn't show you as part of your code (for all those includes say all the code for url.py in the python lib directory, or the smtplib code)) So his solution as far as the computer is concerned may be close to doing it in an other language. As well if he added to the email a Content-type: text/html\n\n to his email header he could probably be able to view the HTML file straight from gamil. I would grade the solution a C+/B- it gets the job done, it wasn't impressive, and a bit hard to follow. As well if you are going to post your code online you should at least make some comments explaining what each section does so the reader could read the comments for each function and get a gist on how the code works.
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      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    9. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...oh we get laid... and due to lower stress we also get more children...

    10. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by yosofun · · Score: 1

      what's the "prescribed yet debatable location" for brackets?

    11. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by Jerry+Beasters · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Ugh....this is Japan, not China.

    12. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by gravis777 · · Score: 1

      I must agree with your comments comment.

      Most programmers are horrible at commenting. Many others are bad at not using variable names that describe what they are doing. Try helping out a first year comp sci major who does not comment or pseudocode, and uses variable names such as x, y, z, a, b, c, a1, a2, and temp. A lot of times not even they know what they are doing.

      Pseudocode is a great thing, IMHO. I use it ALL the freakin time. It allows you to lay out the logic of your program in a simple to follow code, then you just copy it into your program, change up a few things, and, if you are go0od at writting pseudocode, you have a working program.

      Sorry, I got off track on commenting.

      The second thing is his choice of programming language. From what I understand, this code is being executed on his webserver, so you would have to put it in a language or format that is installed on the server. If his server allows executable files, from what his screenshots were showing, then .Net is a great language. It will speed up the execution (of course, with a program this small, running in the background, the fact that its compiled rather than interpreted probably will not make much of a difference).

      I may get some heat for this, but if I was to rewrite this program for use with anyone with any server, I would write it in Pearl (or at least, I would if I knew the language, that's on my todo list). The reason behind this is just about all webservers from a hosting provider will have the Perl libraries installed. Most servers will let you execute a cron job, so just set a cron job to execute this script say, every 8 hours, and there you go.

      Now I am sure that there are going to be some Python lovers out there who will give me heat. I am currently learning this language, and its quite elegant. Problem is, Python is not normally installed by default - you have to install mod_python seperately. At least, this is how you do it in Apache, I am not sure about IIS.

      Truthfully, I think your grading of a C+ / B- is harsh. His code gets the job done, and his task was to make it work for him, not for everyone else. He had a problem, and came up with a working solution. I would give it an A-, because his code does not spit otu an HTML message that he can look at directly inside of GMail and has to go through an extra step of saving the code and reopening it in a webbrowser.

    13. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by mikiN · · Score: 1

      Since when is Shenzhen suddenly located in Japan? Must've been a really BIG earthquake for it to end up there...

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      The Hacker's Guide To The Kernel: Don't panic()!
    14. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ``Promiscuity and Windows must go hand in hand (bad joke there, anyone?)''

      If you use Windows, you are going to get fucked.

    15. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by miyako · · Score: 1

      The Good/Bad Programers who know/think they are Good normally may give a couple of corrections in the code just to make it work a little better of efficiently, or just admit that that isn't quite the same approach they would use, in there style they may accomplish the same task differently and make it more easier for them to read threw.
      The ones who think they are bad programmers will try to learn about the code hoping it will make them better programmers or just ignore it as a programming thing.

      Actually, I would argue that it is the good programmers who will see the code, and try to learn about it, to see how it could make them better programmers. Only the poor programmer will assume that their way is the only/best way, and in so doing, blind themselves to learning new and useful things.

      --
      Famous Last Words: "hmm...wikipedia says it's edible"
    16. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot is filled a diverse group of people, Good Programmers who know they are good programmers, Bad Programmers Think they are the Best Programmers out there, Good Programmers who who think they are Bad programmers so (the tend to keep their mouth shut), Bad Programmers who know they are Bad Programmers, and Good programmers who think themselves as the Best programmers, and Bad Programmers who think them as actually good programers.

      That solution is much too long.
      Use base 3 and let the least significant bit be the type of programmer that a /.er is.
      Let the next significant bit be what said /.er thinks he is.
      Further, let 0 = "Best", 1="Good", 2="Bad".

      /. has
      01
      02
      11
      12
      21
      22

    17. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by alphamugwump · · Score: 1

      most old skool h4xx0rs will do it like this {
              something();
      }

      but most textbooks will tell you to do it like this
      {
              something();
      }

      It isn't really a big deal, though.

      What does piss me off, though, is the java people who like to do this {
          something();}

    18. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by yosofun · · Score: 1
      lol yah. i usually do the brackets the old skool way (though i never knew it to be that. did it just because i thought my code looked "nicer" that way. more elegant.)

      however, that's usually when i'm using notepad for short jobs or phpdesigner -- IDE's that don't force the bracket format.

      when i use the .NET ide (and it's a requirement for some jobs, sometimes), the program automatically formats the brackets in the textbook-way, even if you do type it the olskool way, the IDE reformats it after you enter the closing bracket. it's a pain to manually go back to make them look old skool.

    19. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by ComaVN · · Score: 1
      Your sig:
      People who dislike China tend to mention Tiananmen Square a lot, but they always forget the Tank Man is also a Chinese.


      Perhaps these people dislike the Chinese government, as opposed to the Chinese people. Tank Man is part of the latter, but definitly not the former.
      --
      Be wary of any facts that confirm your opinion.
    20. Re:Elegance, Windows, UNIX by lxt518052 · · Score: 1
      Thanks for your point. This is exactly what my sig tries to reveal.

      There's a tendency among some slashdotters to ignore the difference. In fact, they often refer to the tragedy in 1989 with the sole intention to humiliate Chinese as a nation. If this is not racism, I don't know what racism is.

      --
      People who dislike China tend to mention Tiananmen Square a lot, but they always forget the Tank Man is also a Chinese.
  2. Good luck sending .exes in zipfiles via GMail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... unless you rename them to something other than .exe. GMail is a monstrous pain in the ass in this respect. It will not let .exes through even in a .zip or .rar file.

    1. Re:Good luck sending .exes in zipfiles via GMail by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Good luck sending .exes in zipfiles via GMail ... unless you rename them to something other than .exe. GMail is a monstrous pain in the ass in this respect. It will not let .exes through even in a .zip or .rar file."

      This used to be true, but it has been a while. I just sent myself both a .ZIP and .RAR file and they came through successfully. I imagine Google got sick of complaints aobut it. I've been sending ZIP file backups to myself for several months now.

      --

      "I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)

    2. Re:Good luck sending .exes in zipfiles via GMail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Well, .zips at least have always been OK as long as they didn't include .exes. Previously, zipfiles with .exes were silently dropped by Google, but now it appears that they are actively bouncing them (which is better, since the sender at least knows the mail didn't get through):
       
      VPOP3 was trying to send a message to the server "gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com" when it encountered errors.
      These errors probably originated from that server

      Whilst trying to send to "(redacted)@gmail.com", VPOP3 received the error "552 (5.7.0 Illegal Attachment e17si30774359qba) (failed)"

      So yeah, it's still broken. :-(
    3. Re:Good luck sending .exes in zipfiles via GMail by cdwiegand · · Score: 1

      Oh, you can send zips. That's not the problem. Try emailing calc.exe in zip from a gmail account. Gmail blocks it. They block all *.exe files, either directly, in a .zip file or .rar file. I have to send ".zpi" and tell them to rename the extension (which doesn't always make sense to the end user).

      --
      . Define sqrt(x) as something really evil like (x / rand()), and bury it deep. Watch your coworkers go nuts.
  3. Privileged bandwidth by ishmaelflood · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure all the people and companies that pay for that privileged bandwidth are very happy that it is being used for something as important as /.

    1. Re:Privileged bandwidth by msobkow · · Score: 1

      I'm sure they are happy about it, as they're the ones paying for it. :)

      No one mentioned it being corporate bandwidth or people surfing at work, did they?

      Here in Saskatchewan GMail access was horrendously slow this morning, and access to other web sites has been very inconsistent and unreliable. Having to refresh pages a few times was not uncommon throughout the day, and has often been a problem throughout the holiday season.

      Too many script kiddies on the 'net during the holidays around the world that harass people and damage systems for giggles; never mind the serious industrial espionage or government agents that could do some real damage while everyone thinks it's bored university students on vacation.

      --
      I do not fail; I succeed at finding out what does not work.
    2. Re:Privileged bandwidth by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      I'm sure all the people and companies that pay for that privileged bandwidth are very happy that it is being used for something as important as /.

      Screw them. Thay can get their porn a bit slower. I (in Hong Kong) pay for my home connection which was completely dead for two days and is now at about 50% (guesstimate) of its normal performance.

      What struck me as suspicious was that for the first 12 hours after the quake (about 8pm local time) I didn't notice any problems in access. Only the next morning did my connection suddenly go to shit. Presumably the corporate big spenders called the ISPs and demanded full access, leaving only some crumbs for domestic users.

      Oddly enough I had the opposite experience to the submitter. Slashdot was one of the few US sites I could access most of the time. I couldn't get either Google or Yahoo (which is my mail host) for two days. But he's in Shenzhen, not Hong Kong. Google has been sucking up to Beijing, so maybe that paid off for them.

      I could wish they'd prioritise email over web, I can live without Slashdot but not email. My POP3 connections just kept timing out and drove me nuts. (Of course, when I finally got email back, there wasn't anything important in the queue....)

    3. Re:Privileged bandwidth by Duncan3 · · Score: 1

      My spam dropped to 100 messages a day from 1000++ right after the earthquake, but it ramping right back up.

      Lets hope they can say offline as long as possible.

      --
      - Adam L. Beberg - The Cosm Project - http://www.mithral.com/
  4. It all makes sense. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No wonder there's only been one comment on this entry.

    In all seriousness, though...why not just see if you could reach a service like Anonymouse to proxy it, or if you can get to your "American Web Hosting" you could set up your own php-based web proxy. Way easier and more elegant than all that other mumbo jumbo, plus you could reach any other site.

    1. Re:It all makes sense. by HeroreV · · Score: 1

      Is this flamebait? He doesn't have any problems with censorship. The problem is that certain big spenders like Google are sucking up all the bandwidth. A proxy that doesn't go through one of the big spenders wouldn't help any.

    2. Re:It all makes sense. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ooops, Hong Kong doesn't have Internet censorship.

      But what you said certainly /sounded/ very exciting ^_^

  5. Could always rename Slashdot.... by edwardpickman · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The Glorius Workers Communist Website of Slashdot", That should get it past the censors.

    1. Re:Could always rename Slashdot.... by The+Slaughter · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you'd bothered to read the article, you'd see that the reason he was unable to read slashdot was due to the EARTHQUAKE limiting connectivity over there. Not any chinese censorship.

    2. Re:Could always rename Slashdot.... by lxt518052 · · Score: 1

      Hey, this is slashdot. Some people NEVER read TFA and always assume they knew it! Besides, everything in China has to be evil, doesn't it?

      --
      People who dislike China tend to mention Tiananmen Square a lot, but they always forget the Tank Man is also a Chinese.
    3. Re:Could always rename Slashdot.... by TheCyko1 · · Score: 1

      This is in Taiwan, not China.

      --
      This message was brought to you by the death of 30 brain cells.
    4. Re:Could always rename Slashdot.... by lukas84 · · Score: 1

      Don't irritate me with facts!

    5. Re:Could always rename Slashdot.... by jarl1976 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The article specificly says the man lives in Shenzhen(like myself). Shenzhen is most certainly not in Taiwan...

    6. Re:Could always rename Slashdot.... by Rebelgecko · · Score: 1

      Taiwan, also known as the Republic of China

      --
      CATS/Diebold '08- All your vote are belong to us!
    7. Re:Could always rename Slashdot.... by Threni · · Score: 1

      I went there last year. It's a shit-hole, isn't it? Sort of like Wales, only with even more miserable people. The customs kept me for ages on the way in because of the omission of a leading zero on some form I had to submit with my passport. I thought they were trying to keep people in, not out? I don't think I ever saw a single person smile the whole time I was in China - in stark opposition to the great time I had in Hong Kong.

    8. Re:Could always rename Slashdot.... by lxt518052 · · Score: 1

      Please ignore the parent post, my friend. He probably is not that ignorant to think Shenzhen is in Taiwan. He just wanted to provoke people and make some fun. There're a million mischievous surfers out there, you simply can't educate them all, especially when they don't really care about facts. Let's just make our points and move on.

      --
      People who dislike China tend to mention Tiananmen Square a lot, but they always forget the Tank Man is also a Chinese.
    9. Re:Could always rename Slashdot.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Smile? What smile? there no such thing as smile here in china


      we chinaman work all day bring you capitalist pigs gold in mmo rpgs


      and we are hungry, food we need, buy gold you capitalist pigs

    10. Re:Could always rename Slashdot.... by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      This is in Taiwan, not China.

      No.

      The story is about Shenzhen, China. The quake off Taiwan was where the cables were damaged.

    11. Re:Could always rename Slashdot.... by Notrace · · Score: 1

      Hey, give them a break, they're working on it ...

      Chinese learn to smile

    12. Re:Could always rename Slashdot.... by mackyrae · · Score: 1

      The ROC may not think Taiwan is China, but the PRC does.

      --
      look! it's a bird, it's a plane, it's....a girl? yes, a girl browsing Slashdot on Linux
  6. Google Translate? by dtfinch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Select a bogus source language and it makes a good proxy for reading blocked sites, unless they block that too.

    1. Re:Google Translate? by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      That's pretty much what I came here to say.

      french to english translation of slashdot
      (since there's no french, it just passes the page as-is)
      http://google.com/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=fr%7C en&u=http://slashdot.org/

      You can use pretty much any online translator to do this.
      (Turning off images is wise, since the images will not be 'proxied')

      --
      [Fuck Beta]
      o0t!
    2. Re:Google Translate? by Andrewm1986 · · Score: 1

      Why is parent marked as off topic? It is TOTALLY on topic as it shows an alternative, and simpler, solution to the problem

    3. Re:Google Translate? by flimflammer · · Score: 1

      Of course, reading the article would let you know he tried the translate page, but it would time out.

    4. Re:Google Translate? by tech_guru5182 · · Score: 1

      It's better to use a source language that doesn't use the roman alphabet. I would choose Japanese, or Chinese, as these are available in almost any translation site. There are many words that are common between French, English, Spanish... that may not have the same meaning, and therefore may be translated to something else.

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  7. Google Reader by slack_prad · · Score: 1

    If he just wants to read the summaries

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    1. Re:Google Reader by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:Google Reader by deezilmsu · · Score: 1

      Mod Parent Up! I was having the same idea.

      --
      It's not that I'm asking the big questions, it's that I'm asking lots of small ones.
  8. Too bad... by spammerboy · · Score: 2, Informative

    If this was the old internet, he could have used one of those 'Web to Email' services that *used to operate* till a few years back (remember Agora servers and stuff ??)... Too bad for the new Internet!! ;-)

    1. Re:Too bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Some web-to-email sites still exist http://www.webreplicate.com/

  9. Those that ignore history... by ColaMan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Are doomed to repeat it.

    http://www.expita.com/howto1.html

    --

    You are in a twisty maze of processor lines, all alike.
    There is a lot of hype here.
    1. Re:Those that ignore history... by nurmr · · Score: 1

      same thing, less work:

      $ cat > .forward
      curl $subject | mail $sender

      done.

    2. Re:Those that ignore history... by zCyl · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and what if they couldn't access that page either. :-P

    3. Re:Those that ignore history... by seifried · · Score: 3, Funny

      From: Badguy
      Subject: http://www.cnn.com/ ; rm -rf *

  10. LOL. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you can get to your webhost to upload files, then simply proxy through it.

    ssh -D 9999 for example, then set your browser to use the socks 4 host listening on 127.0.0.1 port 9999.

    For those of you who exclaim "but he is running windows on his server", then do it some windows way, or install sshd from cygwin.

    oh but wait, this is cool because he had to write code! oops!

    1. Re:LOL. by noidentity · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm more of a UNIX newbie, so I'd have thought he could simply telnet to his American machine and run Lynx.

  11. Taste of Anti Net Neutrality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This kind of limited bandwidth is probably what the net would feel like when the its content-neutrality is ditched for the pay-per-view system that some morons are advocating.

    1. Re:Taste of Anti Net Neutrality by zCyl · · Score: 1

      You mean we'll route all of our traffic through google to get around the bandwidth limitations?

  12. Okay.... by geminidomino · · Score: 1

    A solution was to upload an executable to my web hosting in America that would receive zipped executables by email, execute them, then email me the results

    I'll admit, the workaround was indeed clever, but did anyone else get a horrible, queasy feeling when they read this?

    1. Re:Okay.... by Lavene · · Score: 1

      He probably had fun doing it. And isn't that often the main hacker motivation for doing stuff? I have done some pretty weird hacks in my time just to see if I could make it work... I never advertize it on /. though.

    2. Re:Okay.... by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah, I do it too. It's just the security implications of this one make me nauseous...

  13. Errr, making the solution harder then it is. by OverlordQ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Instead of writing an executeable that reads another executable which fetches the page, why not just write the one executable that responds to plain mail with URLs in the body in the first place?

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    1. Re:Errr, making the solution harder then it is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because he's no bright enough to do so? he is using visual studio, a windows desktop and windows web server afterall...

    2. Re:Errr, making the solution harder then it is. by Eternauta3k · · Score: 1
      because he's no bright enough to do so? he is using visual studio, a windows desktop and windows web server afterall...
      I thought of writing an ironic reply but thought I might get modded down unless I write it in UPPERCASE. So I'll say it like this: using windows does not make you dumb. using visual studio does not make you dumb.
      --
      Yeah. Would you choose a neurosurgeon who pokes around people's brains in his spare time? I wouldn't.
    3. Re:Errr, making the solution harder then it is. by dolphinling · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's powerpoint that makes you dumb.

      Though I bet they share some code, coming from the same company and all...

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      There are 11 types of people in the world: those who can count in binary, and those who can't.
    4. Re:Errr, making the solution harder then it is. by Eternauta3k · · Score: 1

      I bet laTex makes you smart :)

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      Yeah. Would you choose a neurosurgeon who pokes around people's brains in his spare time? I wouldn't.
    5. Re:Errr, making the solution harder then it is. by orkysoft · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's the other way round, being dumb makes you use Windows/VS?

      --

      I suffer from attention surplus disorder.
    6. Re:Errr, making the solution harder then it is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well done, i'm very pleased that you took the time to make this absolutely clear, not enough time is spent on Slashdot Stating The Obvious With HTML Formatting, You Must Be A Very Bright Person Yourself

      So, if it's not VS or Windows, what's your reason?

    7. Re:Errr, making the solution harder then it is. by Eternauta3k · · Score: 1
      not enough time is spent on Slashdot Stating The Obvious With HTML Formatting
      Regardless of the formatting, there really are people blind with convictions that stop them from seeing facts, also known as fanboys, who will assert things that just aren't true (at the moment). Greatest example is people saying windows is only good for games.
      So, if it's not VS or Windows, what's your reason?
      Masturbation. Compulsive masturbation.
      :D
      --
      Yeah. Would you choose a neurosurgeon who pokes around people's brains in his spare time? I wouldn't.
    8. Re:Errr, making the solution harder then it is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... there really are people blind with convictions that stop them from seeing facts, also known as fanboys, who will assert things that just aren't true (at the moment). Greatest example is people saying windows is only good for games.

      Right, Windows really isn't good for anything. After all, nethack is available on more stable systems.

  14. Wrong sensitive words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you ever want a slashdot post to be inaccessible in China, all you have to do is post "falun gong", and get modded up.
    Stuff about communism won't do it these days. The hot topics are religion and independence of various sovereign nations that just happen to be adjacent to China.

    Dali lama might do the trick too.

  15. Standstill? by ladislavb · · Score: 2, Informative

    I live in Taiwan, but I haven't noticed even the slightest disruption in Internet service (Hinet) whatsoever - either in terms of speed or connectivity to the outside world. Am I just lucky or has Taiwan escaped the "standstill" reported in other places in the region?

    1. Re:Standstill? by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 2, Informative

      ``Am I just lucky or has Taiwan escaped the "standstill" reported in other places in the region?''

      You're just lucky. See this message on interesting-people.

      There's a video of the outage.

      --
      Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
    2. Re:Standstill? by lxt518052 · · Score: 1
      That's because most of Hinet is on the other side of the broken fibers. Your connection to the US is not affected. Try visiting some sites in Hong Kong and you will notice the difference.

      This unfortunate earthquake happened to expose unfortunate planning of the Asian submarine fiber network. Almost all major conmmunication fibers took route via the seafloor between Hong Kong and Taiwan, which is subject to earthquakes.

      --
      People who dislike China tend to mention Tiananmen Square a lot, but they always forget the Tank Man is also a Chinese.
    3. Re:Standstill? by pikine · · Score: 1

      A link between Taiwan and U.S. appears to be working. I'm writing this in Singapore. Since the earthquake, data packets originating from Singapore have been routed through some hops in the U.S. before finally reaching sites in Taiwan, getting 400ms+ latency for traveling half of the world and back.

      I think it is not possible at this moment for Asia to communicate north to south.

      --
      I once had a signature.
    4. Re:Standstill? by chrnb · · Score: 1
      I think it is not possible at this moment for Asia to communicate north to south.


      I'm in northeast mainland China, The only place i can download BT from, although painfully slow, is Australia and NZ. And I'm able to use my Anti-censorship VPN proxy in sweden, so can at least get my wiki, although surfing without images on most of the time. seems like the main problem is connection to the US, as all websites there, are still almost inaccessible.
      --
      MikMik Baby Organics Mikkaworks
    5. Re:Standstill? by Dak+RIT · · Score: 1
      I'm living in Kaohsiung (Taiwan, 50 miles from the quakes) and am also using HiNet. I haven't noticed any slowdown whatsoever (I was even online at the time they occurred chatting with friends, all of whom also didn't lost any connectivity).

      Even though the earthquake was just off the southern coast of Taiwan, I think it was Singapore and a few other nations with less developed infrastructure who are having the problems.

    6. Re:Standstill? by The+Cydonian · · Score: 1

      Just to say this: exciting to see another /.-tter from Singapore! :-)

    7. Re:Standstill? by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

      I must say my friends on HiNet also seem to be fine, although that is a fairly limited sample. Still, I think, putting all of these experiences together, it looks like HiNet have their act together. However, of course, we only have reports here from people whose connections are _working_...

      --
      Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
    8. Re:Standstill? by oasisweb · · Score: 1

      If by "outside world" you mean just the US, then yes, there hasn't been too much of a disruption, but connections to other parts of Asia were MAJORLY affected. I'm also using Hinet ADSL and up until yesterday connections to Hong Kong, in particular, were still very much dead. I know because I was separated from all my savings for at least three days, until HSBC switched their online banking servers. It is still very, very slow at the moment. I hear they've only got 50% of the connectivity back at the moment.

  16. Or..... by bobintetley · · Score: 2, Interesting

    He could have just run web proxy on his remote server instead of being a complete moron and doing this "clever" hack. Sheesh.

    1. Re:Or..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or maybe he couldn't, because he only had mail access. See, I got that information from the short Slashdot blurb. Didn't even have to read the article. Happy New Year. Same as last year.

    2. Re:Or..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oddly enough, that is what I always do to get US web access from Thailand. Tunnel my browser-to-proxy traffic over SSH and use a proxy that filters out ads and other tracking hooks. This reduces round trips, plus easily allows the bulky web traffic to be compressed via the built-in gzip handling of SSH.

      During the recent outage, I needed to change the TCP congestion control of both Thailand and USA endpoint hosts to "hybla" from the default "bic". This made it much more tolerant to the terrible packet loss rates and high RTT latency which were otherwise preventing even a basic SSH authentication session from completing even though we could ping and could get the TCP connection open.

    3. Re:Or..... by evilviper · · Score: 1

      It's hard to believe a moderator was stupid enough to give you points for this crap.

      A quick glance at TFA would instantly show you how stupid you sound.

      --
      Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
    4. Re:Or..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -1, (Didn't understand question)

    5. Re:Or..... by Chuggzugg · · Score: 1

      Or you could have just rejoiced in the successes of your fellow man instead of being a complete moron and acting out of ignorance and fear. I for one welcome our clever (if imperfectly) problem-solving overlords.

  17. Google cache by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

    If you can access google and gmail, doesn't the google cache work, too? If so just type "site:slashdot.org" first result is, gasp, slashdot home, click cached link, get site home updated last 30 december. Some other sites are newer, some not, but you have enough material to satisfy your geekitude.

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    1. Re:Google cache by WindPower · · Score: 1
    2. Re:Google cache by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google cache is blocked by the great firewall.

  18. Only the links don't work... by micro4 · · Score: 1

    ...in the received document. But it should not be too difficult to get that to work, too.

  19. Open Proxy by Lawrence+Ho · · Score: 1

    It was really bad to have traceroute slashdot.org going nowhere. But here in Hong Kong, I just googled "open proxy", took a look at the Google cached results and configured the proxy (I picked one from UAE)... and there it was, my daily dose of Slashdot! It was very slow and I could not post a comment to the Taiwan quake story, but it worked. I did not have a chance to see if this works in Shenzhen though.

    Now, proxy is longer needed, the traffic is routed through London and Slashdot is still very slow for me. I can only hope the cables will be fixed soon, 400+ ms ping is not fun.

    1. Re:Open Proxy by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

      ``400+ ms ping is not fun.''

      You say that, but I'm on a GPRS link with round trip times in excess of one second (sometimes even over 10 seconds) and packet loss that varies from 20% to 100%.

      It would be great for testing my forward error correction transport protocol (it's supposed to suffer less from high latency than retransmit protocols do), except that the telco appears to block UDP.

      --
      Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
  20. What about good old fashioned... by mikeage · · Score: 1

    ... Internet by Email?

    http://www.faqs.org/faqs/internet-services/access- via-email/
    http://www.expita.com/howto1.html

    I did this in 98, when I was overseas, and my internet access was a 15 minute on one of 4 PCs for about a hundred people, with a local SMTP/POP solution that dialed in twice daily for sending / receiving mail. Worked quite nicely, actually.

    Then again, I don't know if any of the servers listed are still up, but it ought to be easier to have someone install something like this...

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    -- Is "Sig" copyrighted by www.sig.com?
  21. Slashdot 'Daily Newsletter' preference by Avisto · · Score: 0

    Couldn't he have changed his user preferences and gotten Slashdot to email the "Daily Newsletter" to his Gmail account?

  22. Re: ah i have wget P~~~ by cheekyboy · · Score: 1

    Why not just telnet/ssh in and do a wget -r2 * and then tar.bz2 it then email it to gmail from there.

    But on the other hand, it would be nice if slashdot offered a 'one file' download of todays stuff with 1 level view of the comments.

    Its all text/html, should compress really nicely, under 100k. Add another 25kb for adds. Pdf maybe. An offline deliver would be nice.

    --
    Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
  23. Network Neutrality by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

    ``Gmail and Google have privileged bandwidth''

    So you're saying that while folks in the US are arguing over network neutrality, it's already out of the window (in Asia, anyway)?

    --
    Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
    1. Re:Network Neutrality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I think what he's saying is that people in the US are pointlessly arguing over something that's already settled, while in the rest of the world people are being a bit more pragmatic.

    2. Re:Network Neutrality by dfoulger · · Score: 1

      More likely he's saying that Google owns bandwidth (or owns the right to use bandwidth) across the Pacific ocean that hasn't been disrupted by the earthquake. That has nothing to do with net neutrality and everything to do with having a good infrastructure design. The architecture of Pacific Rim telecommunications runs in a a crescent from New Zealand to Korea, with bandwidth tending to connect to the U.S. from either end. When you sever a major intermediate point, like Taiwan, it tends to have downstream effects. I worried about this when I was architecting IBM's Business Partner infrastructure. Good performance (minimum latency) to Asia meant putting clone or good proxy servers somewhere in the middle of that crescent and having enough assured bandwidth to keep those servers updated.

      Hong Kong and Singapore always seemed like good candidates because they were more or less in the middle. It is interesting that they are among the most strongly effected by this earthquake.

      Which is not to say, in any way, that China has embraced anything even mildly resembling net neutrality. Quite the opposite. The technology that makes net preference possible was largely developed (by Cisco and others) to enable China's rather aggressive net censorship.

      --
      Davis http://davis.foulger.net
  24. Clearly an over-complication by predakanga · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm in an area affected by the connection issues as well (Malaysia), but I took a more polished, simple solution. In a word, TOR. Not only have I set up my own network to use a squid-privoxy-tor system to provide relatively fast internet to sites I couldn't access at all before (slashdot for one), but I've been recommending and teaching others how to use Torpark so that they can still get their slashdot, youtube, etc, fixes.

  25. I did that once by erlehmann · · Score: 1

    when i started to participate in freifunk, a wireless mesh-net, i did not know how exactly to contact one subnet from another. my computer was in 192.168.0.X, the others were in 104.61.249.X .

    one night i desperately needed some information form a website. i quickly figured out that my router advertised itself as 192.168.0.1 AND 104.61.249.1, so i connected to the router per ssh, connected to the next node per ssh, connected to the next node per ssh, connected to a server i had an acount on per ssh and started links2. funny, but it worked.

  26. still usefull, restricted work places by cheekyboy · · Score: 1

    How useful for restricted corporate environments that either ban complete internet , or whitelist the net, or perhaps blacklist 90% of it.

    --
    Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
  27. Overly Complicated? by Smerity · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Isn't that an overly complicated solution? I haven't checked if this will work fully as I don't have access to working sendmail, but basically this Python script cronjobbed would do the same...

    #!/usr/bin/env python
    import os, urllib

    MAIL = "/usr/bin/sendmail"

    header = """To: user@china.com
    From: server@usa.com
    Subject: Slashdot
    """

    slashdot = urllib.urlopen("http://www.slashdot.org").read()
    msg = header+slashdot

    p = os.popen("%s -t" % MAIL, 'w')
    p.write(msg)
    p.close()

    Sendmail code referenced from Sending email in Python

    1. Re:Overly Complicated? by thelima · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What about something like this? $ curl http://slashdot.org/ | gzip -c | mail somoeone@gmail.com

    2. Re:Overly Complicated? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      If you used include smtplib with a couple extra commands you could have made it platform independent, assuming that you didn't have access to a Unix box. Say a VMS Station or Windows server....

      --
      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    3. Re:Overly Complicated? by tinkertim · · Score: 1

      Would not :

      lynx --dump http://slashdot.org/ | mail -s "Your slashfix, sir." you@yourdomain.com

      work just as well?

      My connection here in Manila has been perfect throughout the whole mess, amazingly, but that isn't always the case. So I found a cogent connected DC who sold me a win2k3 termserv for $50 a month, which works beautifully for surfing, buying stuff, etc / al.

      Since my ISP uses cogent BW, I found that getting a remote hop on the same network was the best way to go. So I enjoy full connectivity from my house, or my termserv in NY, depending on what the network is doing. I've also bypassed my ISP's DNS servers and use my own in the US, again on Cogent connected BW. Willtell would be another pretty good bet, numerous ISP's here in Asia also use them.

      You can get a VPS very cheap and use simple VNC to do your reading, just be sure that VPS is connected through carriers you can reach.. or keep it simple and just use lynx.

      Don't confuse broken with fragmented. Right now its [ the internet ] is fragmented.. not broken. Broken means you can't access anything. Fragmented means with a little creativity and a couple bucks you can get around the issues.

  28. Go online in Hong Kong, via proxy server by didiken · · Score: 5, Informative

    I live in Hong Kong, and indeed it was a huge disaster. I run an online flower shop myself, so we see our daily traffic went flat for the last couple of days. And I can't even ssh into our colo in USA.

    Recape of the situation: 6 underground fiber lines were cut. "Foreign" sites like Slashdot, Google, EBay and Yahoo! were dead. Hong Kong based sites, Australia sites and a few European sites like BBC does work, so that give us hope. So...

    On day 1 ( 12/28 ): we found out Google Hong Kong still works, and Australia sites work... so we search "australia proxy server" and funny that a few ISPs have open proxies open at 3128 (Looks like Squid Cache to me!). Since we must be an early batch, we feel wonderful to be "the only one" in town to go online, beat the odds and get all the pussies...

    One day 2 (12/29): news of the proxies must have gotten out. Yahoo! Answers are full of such foreign proxies lists, and some entrepreneur hackers must have wonderful day, building their own proxies and lured people into using it. Of course your average surfers wouldn't know normal http is unencrypted... Meanwhile our "free proxy" running by that friendly Australia ISP finally adds ACL to block us out... We try installing Google Web Accelerator, and it did no good, and accessing local sites are even slower...

    On day 3 (12/30): we start looking for Australia colocation / dedicated server plans to run our own proxy server. Their prices are at least 2 times more expensive than US hosting companies, so we start pinging popular hosting in USA.... ev1servers.net? down. Rackspace? up (but too pricey). Godaddy? up, and lo and behold, they have a cheap $29.99 USD virtual linux plan.

    So, we setup our own Squid cache and it finally keeps us reading Slashdot until this day :)

    1. Re:Go online in Hong Kong, via proxy server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "beat the odds and get all the pussies..."
      Now that's what I call a serious porn addiction.

    2. Re:Go online in Hong Kong, via proxy server by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

      ``Since we must be an early batch, we feel wonderful to be "the only one" in town to go online, beat the odds and get all the pussies...''

      LOL. You bastards. Surfing pr0n on the scarce bandwidth left after a disaster, thereby depraving others of their ability to read /.

      --
      Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
    3. Re:Go online in Hong Kong, via proxy server by Urza9814 · · Score: 1

      Why the heck do you need paid hosting for that? I run a proxy off my free host. I've got a gig of space and 5 of bandwidth...should be more than enough for a proxy for several people. I mean, I understand the use of dedicated servers, but it seems like quite a waste of money just to run a proxy.

    4. Re:Go online in Hong Kong, via proxy server by RomulusNR · · Score: 1

      I remember when the Internet was supposed to survive a nuclear war, because of the interconnectivity and multiple paths that were available.

      So why is it this doesn't work?

      (Oh yeah, underregulation.)

      If it worked the way it was supposed to, you wouldn't need to search for a sweet-spot colo host to channel your data through. The net would find the best-path for everyone.

      --
      Terrorists can attack freedom, but only Congress can destroy it.
    5. Re:Go online in Hong Kong, via proxy server by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1

      Surfing pr0n....thereby depraving others

      Freudian slip?

    6. Re:Go online in Hong Kong, via proxy server by mibus · · Score: 1
      I remember when the Internet was supposed to survive a nuclear war, because of the interconnectivity and multiple paths that were available.


      Insufficient peering by ISPs? If you're with an ISP that cares about it, they can arrange peering and backup peering with anyone they want, which (save for cutting every link) does what you suggest. It just gets expensive...
  29. Windows scripting at its best by thelima · · Score: 1

    7Zip to just uncompress zip files from C#? Handmade s/mime parser? base64? Mono? Execs? On Unix? OMG! This is most weired solution I could imagine!
    Thanks god this guy haven't installed MS SQL MSDE database and Exchange plus some web services on IIS server to store intrmediate results and push them back to Asia...
    I could probably write this within no more than two lines of curl/perl/whatever...

    1. Re:Windows scripting at its best by Watson+Ladd · · Score: 1

      Sure. But that line would have a lot of semicolons!

      --
      Inventions have long since reached their limit, and I see no hope for further development.-- Frontinus, 1st cent. AD
    2. Re:Windows scripting at its best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      proxy.sh

      #!/bin/sh

      echo Content-type: text/html
      echo ""
      wget "$*" -O -

  30. addiction.. by kbox · · Score: 1
    A solution was to upload an executable to my web hosting in America that would receive zipped executables by email, execute them, then email me the results.
    And yet, Some people still have the cheek to say we are becoming addicted to the internet.
  31. web to mail portals by dargaud · · Score: 4, Interesting

    People who forget history are bound to repeat it goes the saying. At the very begining of the WWW, not everyone had access to web browsers so various systems were developped, including web to mail portals. You would sent an email to a specific address with a GET request, and you'd get the page in return. Some of those servers are still in use to get around censorship or very limited conectivity, which was my case last year in Antarctica. I read slashdot thanks to a daily email connection, text only, and the agora web-to-mail portal.

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  32. In Hong Kong... Using Tor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have been using Tor to access websites and, despite of the inherent slowness, it has been working fine for me. The best part of Tor in this scenario is that Tor figures out the possible working routes and I got quite a few :)

    1. Re:In Hong Kong... Using Tor by Lawrence+Ho · · Score: 1

      That's good for you. I tried Tor too and it could not find enough nodes to build a circuit for me. It did work after a while but not until many sites became directly accessible again. So, for me, Tor was not particularly helpful to workaround the connection problems.

  33. Both are very good by lxt518052 · · Score: 1
    Yours is terse, the gp is more readable.

    ...but, since when do hackers care about readability? ;-p

    --
    People who dislike China tend to mention Tiananmen Square a lot, but they always forget the Tank Man is also a Chinese.
  34. Less spam from Far East? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seeing as China, Taiwan, etc. are sources for spam, is it possible that in damaging internet connectivity in places like Taiwan, Hong Kong, China, etc., this earthquake has also, temporarily, lessened the amount of spam sent on the internet?

  35. WHY WHY WHY by ari+wins · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome back our old analog overlords.

    --
    Don't worry if you're a kleptomaniac, you can always take something for it.
  36. If google is accessible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  37. A clever hack? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Why just not set up a proxy on that remote hosting server, or if that's forbidden, just set up a cron job to use wget in that server and mail results to you ...
    Running arbitrary binaries on your hosting server will most likely get your account suspended.

  38. Usenet and mailing lists... by mi · · Score: 0

    ... were invented for news-distribution and forum-like conversations in the times, real-time connectivity is expensive/slow/not available.

    What's next? Using e-mail during instant-messaging downtime gets Slashdot's front-page prominence?

    --
    In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
  39. It's easier than that by broothal · · Score: 1

    So - google works. Go to google language tools. Select english->english translation. Input whatever site (i.e. slashdot) you want. Let google fetch it, "translate" it and present the output.

  40. Just use the RSS feed! by tjansen · · Score: 1

    Just use the RSS feed with Google Reader. You will get all articles, only without the links. And if you're internet is down anyway, those links probably won't help you (but you can star the articles whose links you want to follow later).

  41. google cache? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about just using google cache for reading slashdot ...

  42. trapped on azn island, MUST reinvent wheel by yosofun · · Score: 1
    when you're trapped on an desert island after yet another daily earthquake, you have to reinvent the wheel.

    in this case, though there are dozens of existing sources for the same app, you must reinvent the /.RSS2email feed .

    and when you're done, you can always share how you've suffered here, so that we can all understand how deprived you've been.

  43. Why not use Google? by hakrzcode · · Score: 1

    If this person has unrestricted access to Google, then why not use it as a gateway?

    1. Use the language tools, and select "spanish to english".
    2. type in slashdot.org, and hit return.
    3. They download the page, do ultimately no translation, and shows you the results.

    They download the page, and any links that you click, will automatically go through their server.
    And you have your unrestricted access to any websites.

  44. Google Reader by Moixa · · Score: 1

    Does Google Reader work? I read Slashdot from it. You can add it to a your google front page as a personalized gadget

  45. No, this is China by jrobinson5 · · Score: 0

    No, this is China. TFA says that the man is in Shenzhen, which Wikipedia confirms is a city in the Guangdong province of southern China, near the Hong Kong border.

  46. Or you know by warrior_s · · Score: 1

    Just use google personalized home page that will show you the slashdot posts' summaries atleast

  47. GP is a flamebait by lxt518052 · · Score: 1
    Your information from Wikipedia is accurate. But the gp doesn't seem to be totally ignorant of this. The post is very likely to be a flamebait, as you might have noticed.

    --
    People who dislike China tend to mention Tiananmen Square a lot, but they always forget the Tank Man is also a Chinese.
  48. RSS Feeds Forwarded to your Email by Dial-Up · · Score: 1

    Using a service like rssfwd.com, you can just have feeds sent to your email. I used to use it a lot, until Google Reader came out.

  49. A Proxy? by KidSock · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A solution was to upload an executable to my web hosting in America that would receive zipped executables by email, execute them, then email me the results.

    If he can communicate with his web host in America and that host can communicate with ./ then why not just setup a proxy on that machine? Installing and running tinyproxy on a Linux machine is mind numbingly easy.

    1. Re:A Proxy? by advs89 · · Score: 0

      Because he used e-mail to communicate with it... he _couldn't_ access it. It explains this in the very quote you quoted! He sent an executable via e-mail to his webserver, which in turn fetched the site, and e-mailed the results to his Asian e-mail account.

      This involved a one-time upload to his webserver. Also, my understanding is that Slashdot was not blocked, just he had an insanely low amount of bandwidth to anything except gmail and google... I'm not going to touch the issue of the insecurity of sending executables to a webserver (or allowing them for that matter), but I just don't see why he chose this solution.

      First of all, I know for a fact that G-Mail has an rss feed aggregator, with a scrolling marquee of any rss feed you chose... Also, if he uploaded an executable to watch for other executables in his incoming mail (and then execute them), he should be capable of just having it watch for text, such as FetchAndSend /source "http://www.slashdot.org/index.rss" /destination "john@doe.net"
      and heck, even a username/password! Using executables is just asking for trouble...

      Also, why doesn't just subscribe to the daily Slashdot newsletter/headlines (it's under "Messages", within "Preferences")?? And if he want's to see the comments too, he could just rewrite the original executable he uploaded to check for new stories using the RSS feed, and then e-mail him a copy of the page. Or, he could use a set interval (like every 3 hours or something).

      However, maybe under circumstances that he failed to mention, his way could have been the only way, but I highly doubt it. Regardless, 4 out of 5 stars for getting a working solution. Just next time, think it through a little!

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  50. Reinventing the wheel? by cuteseal · · Score: 1
    Talk about reinventing the wheel...

    http://www.web2mail.com/lite/welcome.php

    Just send an email to www@web2mail.com with the web page URL in the subject, and it'll send the page back to you in an HTML email, within 5 mins.

    I use it quite a bit, especially when I'm stuck on customer sites with email only access, and no web.

    [Not affiliated with the above site, just a big fan of it]

    1. Re:Reinventing the wheel? by Cycnus · · Score: 1

      This is fine as long as you can access the web2mail website...

    2. Re:Reinventing the wheel? by cuteseal · · Score: 1

      Err... did you actually read my post? You send an email to www@web2mail.com. No internet (www) access required.

  51. I live in Hong Kong by Cycnus · · Score: 2
    right after the quake access was fine. It's only the next day that things started to go awry. From what I could verify, packets were dropped after only 2 hops in Hong Kong.
    It seemed that the ISP cut access to the outside on purpose for a while, I presume to lower traffic and let big institutions get better bandwidths.
    Day by day the situation is getting better, but when teh ISP allowed outside access again, you could see the packet loss as you got further from Asia: some hops had more than 90% packet loss making connections very unreliable.

    For access, the best thing I found was using proxies. I used findnot.com as they have nearly 30 SSH proxy servers around the world, some of them in Malaysia which were accessible.
    From these servers you could have better connectivity to the rest of the world, although overall is was not very fast and connections would often time-out.

    We're still suffering from spotty connections here but it's getting better day by day. What I find a bit scarry is how easy a local event like the quake could affect such a large area and bring it to its knees for days. I'm pretty sure there are good reasons for having all these sea cbales connect in souther taiwan but it strikes me of odd that an area prone to so many earthquakes be chosen as a major connection point.
    If Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan and most of China had been disconnected for longer over a non-holiday period I'm pretty sure the consequences for all major financial institutions and local economies would have been major, not just for Asia but the world at large.

  52. why not use something like pagefetch? by en4ca · · Score: 1

    Its for situations like these that a few years ago I wrote pagefetch [sourceforge.net], a perl script that would retrieve an html page with its associated images, tar and gzip them all up, and email them back to the original requestor.

  53. Re:first time of 2007 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well since thats what you say..... The truth hurts. Really you screw your rubber doll stupid and to ensure you don't need to clean it out after you w@nk instead. so it's not really an encore after all.

  54. Just do what I do by tehcyder · · Score: 1
    Get a friend overseas to print out hard copies of all the slashdot postings each day then post them by snail mail. When you receive them, scan them into your PC, and hey presto!

    If you're in a hurry, there's always the option of using carrier pigeons or trained seals.

    --
    To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
  55. Reminds me of a hack... by GWBasic · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of a hack that I used back when my web host required me to use a silly GUI that required that I manually upload one file at a time. I uploaded a batch file and pkunzip.exe. When I wanted to update my web site, I'd upload a zip file and instruct the web server to unzip it through CGI!