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Fox Subpoenas YouTube Over Content
popo writes "FOX has subpoenaed YouTube for the identity of a user who posted entire episodes of '24' and 'The Simpson's'. It is not yet known whether YouTube has complied with the request. The '24' episodes in question actually appeared on YouTube prior to their primetime January 14 premiere on the Fox broadcast network, which spread four hourlong episodes of the hit drama over two consecutive nights. Fox became aware the episodes were on YouTube on January 8, according to the subpoena."
....when they have Jack Bauer? I mean, Chuck Norris prays to the guy before bed.
FOX has subpoenaed YouTube for the identity of a user who posted entire episodes of '24' and 'The Simpson's'.
Yeah, they're looking for him so he can star in an upcoming show on CourtTV.
The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
This isn't about your typical copyright infringement. This is about an inside job since that's the only way those files would have made it to YouTube. I have a feeling that if found, the person responsible will first be fired, then sued out the whazoo and sent to debtor's prison.
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Kiefer Sutherland learned how to use the internet, and took the "post your own videos!" thing a bit overboard.
Great Intellect...
The producers of the television show 24 have a great DVD marketing strategy -- show some new footage that takes place just before the yet-to-be-aired season and package it on the DVDs of the previous season as a bonus. Unfortunately someone on YouTube screwed that strategy over and probably cost Fox a grip in DVD sales. They are out for blood.
Lionel Hutz will crush their subpoenas like a paper cup.
I think this case may due a precedent for these video sharing sites.
That's beside the point, though. Once Jack finds out that there is some person somewhere acting unlawfully against him, all civil laws and the Geneva Conventions will be ignored in his quest to find them. With in the first hour of Bauer's angerment, he will see the news and say "damn it!" then proceed to use his ties with Rupert Murdoch to gain access to Larry Page's dog, Foo-Foo. Using CTU personnel that are risking their own jobs to do it, he will find Larry's home address. 20 minutes into the episode, Bauer will have interrogated Foo-Foo and have the dog's head in a basket and be in route to Larry's home.
Meanwhile, the terorrist ECOTotal will be sitting on the couch munching on Dorritos laughing at a family on Geraldo.
At the half way point, Jack knocks on Larry's door as an innocuous deliveray boy carrying a sidearm and a basket dripping with blood. When Larry opens the door, Jack throws the poodle's head at him and pushes him inside with a gun to Larry's head. Interrogation and dialogue of the lowest calibre ensues. Larry Page is left unable to father children.
Meanwhile, ECOTotal is looking on eBay for their new SLR lens.
Jack interrogates Larry to a bloody pulp and finds out that ECOTotal is really a 16 year old high school student dabbling in photography and computer video processing.
The clock is ticking but by the end of the episode the Muslim terrorist ECOTotal is dead and the Chinese government is involved for some reason
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Does anyone else see this over the top action as becoming laughable as Walker, Texas Ranger? I mean, the last tag line I heard on a Fox commercial was "All hail the power of Bauer!" What the hell?
My work here is dung.
DVD Screeners of the first four episodes of 24 were out quite a bit before January 8 on both USENET and all the major TV torrent lists. I'm not surprised the person who will be made an example of will be little joey in his grandparents basement.
I thought the 24 premiere DVD was leaked long before the actual broadcast? If so, this is far from an 'inside job'.
Simpsons. Simpsons.
..... Lionel Hutz as an attorney?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Hutz
This is my opinion. To make sure you don't steal it, it's covered by the DMCA.
Wow it would be nice if some of the commentors at least knew what they were talking about...go to Amazon or Netflix right now and you'll see they're already selling the DVD for the first 4 episodes of season 6 (the ones that leaked). So the only reason they leaked in the first place was because Fox decided to try to cash in and sell the first 4 episodes on DVD immediately after they aired. (Who would buy that DVD anyway?)
This is nothing more than a "standard" leak from the DVD pressing factory and in no way indicates an inside job from Fox.
This is about an inside job since that's the only way those files would have made it to YouTube.
You don't have to be an insider to pull this stunt--you only need equipment that is no longer commonly available. TV programming is sent from network HQ to affiliate stations electronically via satellite, sometimes hours to several days before scheduled broadcast. You do not need to be an employee of either the station or the network to receive a satellite signal. I used to regularly watch episodes of Star Trek DS9 up to three days before they aired on "real" TV.
Wild feeds, or "occasional video transponders" are still commonly sent in unencrypted form so anyone can get them. However nobody knows when they are broadcasting or what the content is unless you are an employee. Sometimes if you watch the feeds you can pick out a pattern that seems like a regular schedule, but sometimes it shifts around. Also, episodes may be broadcast in wild feeds out of sequence. Furthermore, they are not broadcast in the same way as the most commonplace digital satellite systems--they are typically analogue and in a different frequency band--in the US they are on C band satellites. Most people who want satellite TV want the little dish hanging off the eaves, not a ten-foot C-band dish that obscures half of your yard (and you'd have to be in a rural setting for it to even be permitted). Wild feeds in Canada are commonly in Ku band as well, which permits a slightly smaller dish but still not appealing to anyone but enthusiasts.
Fox has a larger hunt on their hands and it IS a typical copyright violation case. Hence, the subpoena of Google/YouTube.
Stupid of broadcasters to still broadcast in the clear like that, but there is some technological inertia in every industry...
I look forward to www.0daytube.com.
If he posted the commercials, would they still care?
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He's dead. There's a lesson to be learned here: don't marry a drugged-up alchoholic nutbag. Or if you do, don't buy her a fricken' revolver, fer chrissake!
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You're using her as bait, Master!
FYI, it has also been reported that this episode appeared on Bit Torrent prior to it's appearance on YouTube. Odds are this guy was just a moron / 3rd rate P2P pirate. Hassling him probably won't highlight the source of the leak.
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I've seen Lost and Prison Break episodes on torrent sites at least a week before airing...
This is a slam dunk subpoena of an individual who grossly violated copyright laws, and probably (once his identity is confirmed) trade secret laws.
Dollars to Doughnuts says that Google's laywers took one look at the subpoena and went "Here you go"
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then sued out the whazoo
I am to be thinking, that which comes out the whazoo is not something to be suing to be having, yes?
I misread the headline, but strangely I didn't find the idea of serving a subpoena via YouTube to be surprising in the least. In fact, my initial thought was "Wow, YouTube's toning down their content."
https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
...and make him post early episodes of Battlestar!
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The article mentions that the subpoena was "[f]iled on the basis of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act". I was under the impression that the DMCA dealt with circumvention of copy-protection measures. If this was recorded off of 'the air', i.e., an antenna or cable, how does the DMCA apply? AFAIK there are no copy-protection measures on these analog services.
The rights of the owners of IP? Because posting entire episodes of tv is a crime and also disallowed by YouTube policy.
Ice Cream has no bones.
...there is always a mole. Fox will no doubt be surprised when the last four episodes reveal him to be Rupert Murdoch himself. But they'll only find that out through torturing this poor kid first.
We all live "around" detroit in the "burbs" and it's really quite nice and upscale so having him "live" here wouldn't be punishment. ;)
I'm against copyrights period. However, FOX is here following the purest spirit of copyright laws and going after the criminal instead of trying to shut down youtube. If youtube can't lead FOX to the culprit, youtube itself could (or should) be considered an accomplice.
Oh ho ho, sounds like somebody watched the episode without the commercials! Television thief!
(Yeah, and people who wear protective body armor are stealing ammunition.)
I could upload a copy of the ad for the DVD that aired during episode 4 to YouTube to prove it to you, but even that might make Fox irrationally upset. (Personally, I think it would be fair use. And further, a work which would itself expire to an unrecoverable state before the expiration of its copyright unconstitutionally enjoys indefinite copyright protection duration.)
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Forget to tick the "Post Anonymously" box, did we? I hate when that happens.
Do you think they'll incorporate his interrogation into Day 7?
Who uses there real identity on the internet these days anyway? The only time my real name gets used is where finances are concerned. Nothing more, nothing less.
Just because you can, does not mean you should.
let FOX get subpoenaed for ITs content ~
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I watched those on peekvid this week to catch up on this season before this week's episode. I wouldn't have watched 24 now and for the rest of the season or seen all their advertisements on Monday if I hadn't been able to catch up...
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... when you can simply use bad grammar and word usage in your slashdot-post subject lines?
Actually you are most likely correct. About two weeks before the premiere, Fox sent DVD's to all of its affiliates with the finished versions of the first four hours. Each copy was supposed to have a trace code so that if one got released Fox could trace it to the affiliate that received it. These DVDs were then given by the affiliates to their radio affiliates. I actually got to watch the DVD a week and a half before the shows premiered. The release on youtube coincides with when the DVD's were released to the stations. So, there is a very real possibility that Fox is trying to find their inside leaker. And yes they will be sued, but no, there is no debtor's prison. One of the things that improved after our severing from England. But having all your possessions taken and feeling like a poor pauper can feel like prison, most likely.