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Earth's Constant Hum Explained

MattSparkes writes "It has been known for some time that there is a constant hum that emanates from the Earth, which can be heard near 10 millihertz on a seismometer. The problem was that nobody knew what caused it. It has now been shown that it is caused by waves on the bottom of the sea, and more specifically 'by the combination of two waves of the same frequency travelling in opposite directions.'"

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  1. I shall be the first to say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ohm-mani-padme-hum

    1. Re:I shall be the first to say by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's not that kind of hum.

      The truth is the Earth is humming just because it doesn't know the words.

  2. Constant Hum by MattSparkes · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I'm in a quiet room I can often hear a quiet hum. It started after I went to an Arctic Monkeys concert...

    1. Re:Constant Hum by Fist!+Of!+Death! · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't worry, they say it changes when the sun goes down...

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    2. Re:Constant Hum by MattSparkes · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, it gets louder unfortunately. Damn monkeys.

    3. Re:constant hum by solevita · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sorry, but the breakthrough research that explained how some guy's hifi hummed was last week; you probably had a ground loop or something. But this week we're talking about the Earth; it's like your hifi, but more people care.

    4. Re:Constant Hum by solevita · · Score: 2, Funny

      First post, on a story you submitted? You're all over this one! I've got a strange feeling that this day will forever be known as Matt Sparkes day.

    5. Re:Constant Hum by MattSparkes · · Score: 2, Funny

      And it shall be a national holiday, and festive donuts will be consumed.

    6. Re:constant hum by Prune · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's strange, I only get a 60 Hz hum... I wonder what could possibly cause the difference... :P

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    7. Re:Constant Hum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      At least they're too busy singing to put anybody down...

  3. So that's what causes it by niconorsk · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've always just assumed it was the Earth purring.

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    1. Re:So that's what causes it by bhiestand · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well that begs the question of who is petting it. No, it doesn't.
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  4. please by baldass_newbie · · Score: 5, Funny

    For the love of God, make it stop!

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  5. Damn by sharp-bang · · Score: 5, Funny

    So all this time I guess I should have put the tinfoil in my shoes.

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  6. Maybe it's just happy? by crosbie · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...as Douglas Adams might have said.

    1. Re:Maybe it's just happy? by Veetox · · Score: 5, Funny

      You may be closer to the truth than you know: $10 (Yeah, I know I'm cheap...) says that researchers will later find out that human activity is impeding the waves and if that impediment continues, it will ruin biological interactions all over the planet... Yeah, you know whats going to happen: monkeys falling out of trees, birds migrating the wrong way, and lesbian women becoming sexually attracted to nerds. Also, hell freezing over.

    2. Re:Maybe it's just happy? by LMacG · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Who said anything about cats?

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    3. Re:Maybe it's just happy? by Aladrin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Amazingly enough, not all cats are the same. My late tabby only purred when he was happy. Never once did I hear/feel him purr before he received the attention he wanted.

      On the other hand, my current cat is the opposite. Purring seems to have nothing to do with being happy. She will frequently walk up to me and just start purring, and generally stops once I start petting her.

      So it's not really disinformation, it's partial information. Just like yours.

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    4. Re:Maybe it's just happy? by JargonScott · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ..and lesbian women becoming sexually attracted to nerds...

      Unfortunately they'll be butch instead of lipstick.

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    5. Re:Maybe it's just happy? by mennucc1 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Also, hell freezing over. You forgot Debian releasing 4.0
  7. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    All this time, I just assumed it was because it couldn't remember the words.

    1. Re:Wow by mmdog · · Score: 3, Funny

      All this time, I just assumed it was because it couldn't remember the words.
      Actually the earth knows the words but was concerned that the RIAA might sue.

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  8. Why? by khristian · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I think these people "researching" it have too free time in their hands...

    (...)This creates a standing wave that "goes thump, thump, thump on(...) Sound more like a kid that's happy for having found out how something works. Well, if that keeps 'em happy, they should go for it ^^
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  9. Did ancient greeks know about this? by torrija · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think this is a concept related to Pythagoras' Musica Universalis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musica_universalis. An inaudible sound on all celestial bodies.

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    1. Re:Did ancient greeks know about this? by kestasjk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, Pythagoras didn't have a seismometer capable of detecting 10 millihertz..

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  10. Hmmmmmmmm by dcw3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ok, so the waves are making the sound. Now tell us what causes the waves. I didn't notice a source in TFA.

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    1. Re:Hmmmmmmmm by FormOfActionBanana · · Score: 5, Funny

      The Thetans?

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    2. Re:Hmmmmmmmm by Dorceon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Considering how litigation-happy that particular church is, you might have considered posting that anonymously.

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    3. Re:Hmmmmmmmm by ChrisA90278 · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Now tell us what causes the waves."

      The answer is "wind" this has been known at least a century, no need to put it in the article. Now you ask what makes wind. This to has been known for a long time, the basic answer at the bottom of all of this is uneven heating of the atmosphere by solar radiation. Why "uneven"? The Earth is not uniform all over it's surface? Why is that? Something about plate tectonics? Why is that? The core is liquid and the "lighter" crust floats on the liquid while the liquid circulates. You can go on forever.....

      But seriously, wind blowing over water causes ripples, the hight and period of the riples depends on the speed of the wind and the "fetch". Fetch being the distance the wind has to act on the water.

    4. Re:Hmmmmmmmm by FormOfActionBanana · · Score: 3, Funny

      He/she wasn't really thinking about it in those terms when he/she quickly typed out a joke trying to score mod points!

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  11. Re:10 millihertz by FormOfActionBanana · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, I think it works out to about 36 waves per hour.

    10 milliHertz = 10 * 1/1000 waves per second
    => 0.01 waves per second
    * 60 => 0.6 waves per minute
    * 60 => 36 waves per hour

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  12. Interesting, but wrong by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Your article was very interesting, but it's wrong. I have a better idea. You see, the center of the earth is full of bees. They make the earth hum and the turtle stack keeps turning to find out what's buzzing. You see? Mine's a much better explaination: explains the humming and the rotation of the Earth!

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    1. Re:Interesting, but wrong by Prune · · Score: 2, Informative

      This would have been funny except you seem to lack reading comprehension. The article said ten MILLIhertz! That's a single beat every hundred seconds. Bees' buzzing is about three orders of magnitude higher in frequency.

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    2. Re:Interesting, but wrong by HalfFlat · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't think you understand. They are very large bees.

    3. Re:Interesting, but wrong by Salsaman · · Score: 3, Funny

      Exactly. In the same way that the Earth sits on the back of a *giant* turtle. It would be ridiculous to think that the Earth rested on the back of a normal turtle - why, a normal sized turtle would get crushed by the weight !

  13. Whales by Fist!+Of!+Death! · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is probably driving the whales crazy. They think it's the Voices...

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    1. Re:Whales by Prune · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This would have been funny, except the ten MILLIhertz frequency (one beat per hundred seconds) is a couple of orders of magnitude lower than what whales can hear.

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    2. Re:Whales by Attrition_cp · · Score: 2, Funny

      Jesus, you must be the life of parties.

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  14. It stopped the other day by Centurix · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I shutdown my PC. Turns out the bearing was on its way out.

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  15. Re:Alternate explanation by Yvanhoe · · Score: 5, Funny

    They didn't say what causes the waves !
    Everybody knows this is Great Cthulhu snoring in his sleep
    Now please lose 2D6 sanity points

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  16. But wait! by camperdave · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...the waves are making the sound.

    Wait a minute. How do we know that it's the waves that are causing the hum, and not the other way around? Perhaps the planet is still ringing from meteor impacts, and the hum is just the resonant frequency. The deep ocean waves may be just a side effect.

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    1. Re:But wait! by rucs_hack · · Score: 2, Insightful

      given the fact that most natural systems exist in some kind of homeostatic relationship with other systems, its likely that the cause is rather complex. I wouldn't have a clue where to start.

      That's what I love about science though, there's yet another thing to explain. I wonder what it will reveal?

  17. hertzs by mapkinase · · Score: 4, Informative

    10 milliHz is a beat every 100 seconds. Must be really tricky to detect. I wonder how far below that frequency the sensitivities of seismometers go.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seismometer#Modern_re cording mentiones only down to 1Hz. Need to see original article in Nature from work.

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    1. Re:hertzs by mapkinase · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ok, I skimmed briefly through Webb's article in Nature. Fig.3 shows the comparison between the model and experimental data. Coming from the computational biology field (3D structure prediction, gene modeling) I am somehow not convinced. To judge the matching of the model to the data one has to use a third more trivial approximation whatever it is.

      For example, if you want to predict the quality of your prediction of protein 3D structure, you can assume very simple approach, like all the aminoacid residues on the surface of the protein are predicted less correctly than those inside. Or you can say: everything predicted in loops (those stretches of aminoacid chains that are not in regular local structure - alphahelix or betastrand) is bad, everything else is solid and then compare your quality prediction model threeways: to (a) actual quality and (b) to quality predicted by previously described simplistic models.

      I do not see that here.

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  18. Balrog by tore · · Score: 5, Funny

    I always thought it was the Balrog humming.

  19. Come one it is the intelligent shaking. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Funny

    These atheistic God-denying scientists attribute the constant hum detected by the seismometers to some random wave action at the ocean floors. But they ignore the fact that it violates the second law of thermodynamics (whatever it is). The real cause for the hum is the intelligent shaking by the Shaker. We demand equal time in all classrooms and seminars and conferences, wherever these surfologists congregate to rebut their theory (not fact) with our scientifically formulated real sceintific fact that intelligent shaking is the fundamental cause for all the hum on earth.

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  20. Quick! Someone patent/copyright/trademark it! by fmobus · · Score: 4, Funny

    If this humming is omnipresent, it means that every music is "sampling" it without authorization. We then sue RIAA out of existence for unlicensed sampling.
    PROFIT!

  21. Easy to explain by hey! · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nobody's figured out how to ground the dang thing.

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  22. Throbbing by andrewuwe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    10 millihertz sounds more like a throb than a hum to me, perhaps even a chug.

    1. Re:Throbbing by mysticgoat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's more like "bang the drum softly". Once every ten seconds.

      So are there any biological processes that are using this omnipresent beat for a clock frequency? Do any of the intracellular membranes we are familiar with quiver in resonance with the Earth beat? Would it be possible to predict the shape of such a biological structure?

      I'm guessing that life has found a way to take advantage of this constant beat to organize sequences of activity. If that it so, there would be health consequences for astronauts: the ISS might need to have a thumper installed on the hull. There are probably also health consequences for anyone working in an environment where the Earth beat is drowned by industrial noise.

  23. I have an idea by LaughingCoder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Maybe we could build a clock that used this hum as some sort of synchronization. Then every clock on the planet could be synchronized, since this signal is presumably detectable everywhere.

    OK, I didn't say it was a *good* idea :-)

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  24. Re:hertzs (stacking) by Reverse+Gear · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well many seismometers are constantly on and have very long periods of this noise recorded.
    So with enough stacking you can pretty much detect as low frequencies as you want if only the amplitude is strong enough to be detected by the seismometers, so my guess is that the limiting factor is not the 1 Hz, but lies in how small amplitudes these seismometers detect.

    These suggested waves would hold quite an amount of energy so it does make sense that they are able to detect these to me.

  25. Re:Alternate explanation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe the Earth just doesn't know the words.

  26. Re:Alternate explanation by twistedsymphony · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They didn't say what causes the waves !
    What did cause the waves?, How do we know that the waves weren't caused by the hum?
  27. Ohhhh yes :) by kahei · · Score: 4, Funny


    You SO win the prize for 'AC reply that is most obviously by the original poster, ever' :) I especially love the way you just telepathically know that the original poster was a 'she'.

    A winner is you!

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    1. Re:Ohhhh yes :) by Your+Pal+Dave · · Score: 2, Funny

      Re: telepathic "she"

      Ok, you're probably right - but you should be aware that a significant percentage of people now randomly use either "he" or "she" as a generic pronoun for an unknown person, or alternate the two in a document that calls for multiple instances of such usage. We do it in order to step away from the sexist "he" as a default, and to avoid the awkward "he/she" (which frankly doesn't flow very well.) This still discriminates against genderless objects.

      One should say "S/h/it" instead.

      Won't somebody think of the machines?
  28. Well this proves it... by mtec · · Score: 5, Funny

    We're living inside an inter-galactic boy band.

    Venus is the hot one and will turn out to be gay (natch, I mean Venus?)
    Earth is the um, down-to-earth one - full of life.
    Mars - the cold and distant one - always at war with the other members
    Jupiter - slightly overweight - jolly
    Saturn - Gaudy over-compensator wears lots of jewelry and rings - looks up to Jupiter

    Hot headed Mercury - left in a huff to form his own band - his manager is the real star though.
    Uranus was an asshole and left before fame came.
    Neptune - always blue, committed suicide after what happened to Pluto...
    Pluto? Well, Pluto was thrown out when it was discovered he never could sing.

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    1. Re:Well this proves it... by mike2R · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh fuck. I swear I thought Venus was a girl..

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  29. All those cartoons paid off! ! by Iridium_Hack · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Spongebob Squarepants cartoon was accurate all the time when it showed that there ARE beaches on the bottom of the ocean!!! We now know for sure that they have waves and everything. Who need Atlantis? If we could only find Bikini Bottom.

  30. Not quite right by unixfan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    All objects have a mean frequency which in this example is causing the frequency that they are observing in the water. The frequency in the water comes from the planet's own resonance, or a harmony thereof.

    Tesla noticed this and build a little tool which hit on the harmonic frequency and kept accelerating the oscillation with a device he built until there were "earthquakes" observed all around, and he had to cut short a trip to run home and turn it off. Indeed in manufacturing speakers you try to get this frequency down below audioble range as you don't want the speaker to resonate and alter the sound it's supposed to generate.

    It's a very common mistake made by many when they observe a symptom (not realizing there is a real why behind it.)

  31. this is what I found by mapkinase · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Article reporting the milliHz hum in 1998
    IDA (International Deployment of Accelerometers) used to detect the hum.
    Article in Nature (1979) assesses if IDA can be used to detect very low frequency seismic data. Looking at the figure 1 of amplitude(?) ("MD counts" at Rarotonga station not shown on the current IDA map) I can see the aftershocks in 2 hour intervals after the Indonesia earthquake, but the subj frequencies could be detected only by obtaining the spectrum (Fig.2) at mHz range which frankly looks like white noise - irregular beats.

    Most interesting figure is Fig.3 which shows the 0.43-0.52mHz of the _processed_ spectrum measured at six different stations around the world at Hour 25 and on. The Alaska station (CMO) has much clearer spectrum compared to the closest (?) RAR station.

    All of it must have meant something for a seismologist which I am not.

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  32. possible energy source? by jhfry · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If our whole planet were vibrating at a constant frequency... it seems to be that there is a lot of energy in that hum... any way to harness this?

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  33. Re:10 millihertz by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That kind of made me wonder how it's a "hum". I mean, ... isn't there some minimum threshold a cyclical process has to meet to be classified as a sound? Does the earth's one-revolution-per-year around the sun count as a "hum"? Does "me coming to work and returning home each day" count as a hum?

  34. Re:Alternate explanation by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 2, Funny

    its a small world after all

    MAKE IT STOP!!!

    I visited disneyworld once. That damned song scarred me for life.

  35. triangulation doesnt work for hum by peter303 · · Score: 3, Informative

    A key breakthough was figuring out how to locate continuous signals. For normal earthquakes you have a sharp beginning. Using four or more seismographs you can invert for x,y,z and t0 (called triangulation).

    For continuous signals you can find source by cross-corelating long pieces of signal from multiple locations. I first saw this in ambient noise submarine location, but the seismologists have now adopted it for analyzing some kinds of difficult signals like hum.

  36. On mars the atmosphere shakes once every year by goombah99 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    on mars the viking landers made a suprising discovery. Once every year the temperature and pressure conditions cause the entire atmosphere to shake globally. The seasonal cylce is not symmetric so it only happens once a year and it happens very close to the same day every year. This might seem weird but the martian atmosphere is about 100th as dense as ours so the sound waves can get pretty huge. I happen to known this because I helped discover it (using fortran 4!)

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    1. Re:On mars the atmosphere shakes once every year by goombah99 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      reference and here and here's a picture of the spare lander that was never launched the boom on it is the meteorology sensor

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