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Five FM iPod Transmitters Reviewed

An anonymous reader writes "If you want to listen to your iPod or other audio player in your car, but you don't have a cassette deck or a swanky I.C.E. system, then the answer is to transmit the music over FM to the car's radio. HEXUS.lifestyle reviews five FM transmitters for the iPod and friends, investigating how well these devices cope with broadcasting music over a 2 meter-or-so radius. Some readers will be aware that it's been less than a year since these became legal in the UK, so the majority of iPodding Brits have only recently discovered that they can tune into their MP3 collection on the road."

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  1. Mr_Microphone.mp3 by dbcad7 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, good looking, I'll be back to pick you up later !

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    1. Re:Mr_Microphone.mp3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For those of you too young to know what this is about, this explains everything...

    2. Re:Mr_Microphone.mp3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Help! My name is Timmy O'Toole and I am trapped in well!!!

    3. Re:Mr_Microphone.mp3 by paleo2002 · · Score: 1

      OMG! You mean, that wasn't just a Simpson bit? That means they did a word-for-word parody of this commerical on the show. Wow.

    4. Re:Mr_Microphone.mp3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man, I'm old enough to remember when that commercial actually aired on TV. How depressing, ha ha

  2. Nice by scuba_steve_1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    > The five products reviewed all have backlit LCD screens, a radio bandwidth of 88.1 to 107.9MHz and switch off automatically about 60 seconds after the audio signal stops.

    Very nice! (seriously)

    I bought a unit that did NOT turn off after the audio signal stopped and I frequently forgot to turn it off manually...which resulted in the batteries being dead 90% of the time. Whatever unit that you buy, I suggest looking for one that has this critical feature.

    Also, if you live in a populated area, make sure that you get one that has a broadcast frequency is FULLY tunable...not just selectable between a handful of discrete values. I live in DC and you are hard pressed to find an unoccupied slice of frequency.

    1. Re:Nice by TClevenger · · Score: 1
      I bought a unit that did NOT turn off after the audio signal stopped and I frequently forgot to turn it off manually...which resulted in the batteries being dead 90% of the time. Whatever unit that you buy, I suggest looking for one that has this critical feature.

      I have the opposite problem. I have the Belkin unit, which shuts off 30 seconds after the audio stops--even when you just pause the player. So I'm talking on the phone, or into the clown's mouth at the fast-food restaurant, and suddenly the transmitter shuts off, and the static and noise of the radio station blasts out the speakers.

    2. Re:Nice by ElderKorean · · Score: 1

      I would have though that technology would have come much further with this way of working.

      Back in 1994 I had a FM transmitter for my portable CD player that gave problem free listening to music long before I was able to afford a real CD player in my car.

      My CD player and transmitter were sitting on the floor behind the passenger seat (as that seemed to cause the CD player to jump the least)

      No need to worry about flattening batteries as it all ran off the cigarette lighter and provided an extra lighter connection for the player as well.

  3. Non iPod transmitters... by alyawn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I like that they at least threw a bone to us non-iPod-ers. But still, it's becoming increasingly more difficult to find accessories for non-iPod mp3 players. I thought the idea of everything uses a standard headphone jack would be good enough. But, I was wrong.

    1. Re:Non iPod transmitters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That's one of the main reasons I bought an iPod instead of an ogg vorbis player. I wanted the extensibility that all of these iPod compatible accessories allows.

      My iPod is my first ever Apple product. Have had it five months, and I love it. Works great - no complaints yet.

    2. Re:Non iPod transmitters... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The iPod has a fairly nice interface for plugging in accessories. It's got a nice clip, and the connector supports video, audio, power, data, and (as I recall) a serial interface for simple commands. The connector can be bought cheaply and the pin-outs are available. I'm slightly surprised that other manufacturers don't implement it; I wonder if Apple have copyrighted or patented it, but I wouldn't have thought a connection of this nature would be eligible for this kind of protection.

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    3. Re:Non iPod transmitters... by Animaether · · Score: 2, Informative

      more-or-less.. yes. You need a license from Apple to even build a device that has the iPod connector. That's the part you stick in the iPod. That's not to mention the part you'd use for peripherals to connect -to-; the jack inside the iPod. afaik - Apple doesn't license that at all.

      http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ipod+connecto r+license

    4. Re:Non iPod transmitters... by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's the so-called "eco-system", something to consider when you buy any electronic device, including computers. That said, I share your pain. I've got a 2nd Gen iPod, i.e., no dock and it's increasingly hard to find other accessories for it. For an music player manufacturer, it's a chicken and egg thing. Without a large enough eco-system of accessories for your platform it is hard to sell a lot of players. If you're not selling a lot of players, it's going to be hard to build an eco-system, unless you do it all yourself.

      This is why Creative made the deal with Apple that they did. Creative realized that they could make a huge amount of money by climbing on the iPod bandwagon, instead of fighting it. Smart move, and they can always try a serious challenge to the iPod again if the opportunity presents itself.

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    5. Re:Non iPod transmitters... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      I could have sworn that Belkin made a transmitter with the 1/8" plug.

    6. Re:Non iPod transmitters... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      The pin outs for the connector are documented here, and the sockets can be purchased from the manufacturers easily. The wire protocols for most of the pins are controlled by organisations other than Apple, so I don't know exactly what they would be selling a license for; it's not the physical connector (they don't own it), and it's not the wire protocols (they don't own those, except for the protocol sent over the serial pins, which is also documented). It might be the pin layouts, but at most they could be protected as trade secrets and probably aren't eligible for that since they've been online for a while...

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    7. Re:Non iPod transmitters... by alyawn · · Score: 1

      Any chance they have a 1/8 audio jack to iPod female connector. I realize this would only work with audio (and perhaps power), but may be a nice thought. Hmm... damn, shouldn't have given the idea away :)

    8. Re:Non iPod transmitters... by alyawn · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I ended up with a Creative Zen Micro. At first, there were a lot of eco-system parts for it. But that has faded. I do love it though. I imagine I'll have to fall in-line and eventually get an iPod*.

    9. Re:Non iPod transmitters... by alyawn · · Score: 1

      Yes, and that was the bone I was referring to. I actually have one.

    10. Re:Non iPod transmitters... by patently+obvious+nam · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing the licensing fee is so they can be "official partners" of Apple with the right to uses certain Apple protected catch phrases and logos in ads and packaging.

  4. Belkin by QBasicer · · Score: 5, Informative

    I personally have the Belkin one, and I hate it. It has horrible transmission and I have a hard time when it's more then 1 foot away from the antenna. There's been times when I've touched my radio's antenna to the unit, and still got nothing better than the FM station in the next city over.

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    1. Re:Belkin by techsoldaten · · Score: 2, Informative

      My Belkin unit is next to useless. Something is seriously wrong with it, I will be listening to a clear signal for about 5 minutes before it gets all goofy and I have to change the station. This means my hands are tied up while driving trying to get to a better frequency, and I often actually have to hold the device to get a good signal.

      On the other hand, my friend drives a Prius which has a 1/8th inch jack for plugging external devices directly into the radio. He gets a crystal clear signal all the time from his hardwired iPod.

      M

    2. Re:Belkin by Scumbumbo · · Score: 1

      Had the same problem, especially here in the Chicago area where blank spots on the dial are almost non-existant. Since I don't really ever listen to radio I unscrewed the antenna from the body of the car. Problem solved, although the signal to noise ratio is still pitiful.

    3. Re:Belkin by queezle · · Score: 1

      I too have the Belkin one, but it works wonders for me. I leave it set to 88.1, plug in my iriver h10, and can drive all over the UK and very rarely get any interference. I've never tried it on just battery power though as it came with an in car power adapter.

    4. Re:Belkin by dhovis · · Score: 2, Informative

      My wife used to use an iTrip (one of the ones that you had to tune by playing special audio files on the iPod). When she got a Nano, we got her a Belkin one that came with a car charger. It was awful. It broke pretty quickly, so when I was at an Apple store, I picked up a Monster iCarPlay, which combines a charger with the transmitter. It also has an autoscan feature to find an unoccupied frequency.

      I was hesitant about it, because I always hear that Monster products are overpriced. This was pricey (~$100), but it was only $20 more than the other combo units the Apple store had, and I figured I'd just return it if it turned out to suck. The audio quality is much, much better than the iTrip or the Belkin one. Like night and day. The interface is a little fussy, and the autoscan feature is a little hit or miss. It seems to be somewhat polarization sensitive. You'll get a different result if you rotate the transmitter 90 degrees. I found that the best thing to do was to run the autoscan with the transmitter sitting wherever you are going to set the iPod. That way it will at least pick a station it can overpower.

      Hardwiring it or using a cassette adaptor would be better, but if you're willing to spend $100, the Monster one is pretty good, if pricey.

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    5. Re:Belkin by felipekk · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just FYI, touching the radio`s antenna to the unit is NOT the best signal transfer you can get. There is a small radius you need to keep from the transmiting antenna to the receiving antenna that depends on frequency. The higher the frequency, lower the radius.

    6. Re:Belkin by Zonk+(troll) · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have the Belkin one as well. I got extremely frustrated with it as I couldn't drive more than two miles without something overpowering the signal. Eventually what I did is went to Best Buy and spent $100 on a new stereo for the car. Now, like your friends Prius, I have a line in jack. Very clear, no static, and much higher quality sound. I now just use the Belkin as a charger.

      If anyone is considering buying a transmitter, consider doing as I did. Just replace the stereo, Besides the higher quality sound and zero interference, you get the benefit of being able to use it with any device, not just an iPod.

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    7. Re:Belkin by maxume · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Are you literally looking for 'blank' spots with the radio and then tuning your transmitter to that frequency? I've had much better luck just stepping both devices through the spectrum; it seems that a lot of the time, overriding a weak station works a lot better than overriding a 'blank' frequency.

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    8. Re:Belkin by timeOday · · Score: 2, Insightful
      FWIW, I live in a mid-size city and find the $20 Belkin model from WalMart to be usable. After plugging the 6" lead into my mp3 player, I hang the assemblage on my rearview mirror. I find the sound quality OK for voice (All Things Considered, mostly) and movies (on a laptop, when parked of course!) but subpar for music.

      But why, oh why, don't all car stereos come with an aux jack?

    9. Re:Belkin by MaelstromX · · Score: 1

      I used to have an iCarPlay, but one of the ones where you can only pick from the preset frequencies. I normally don't have anger issues, but one day my device ... broke.

      I live in Atlanta, where like all big cities you will have an extremely tough time finding an unused frequency. I settled on 88.3 MHz, which is 0.2 MHz away from a 100,000 W college station and thus gets a lot of interference from that, but at least your music will mostly come in clear. The problem is, that's what everybody else uses for their iPod radio transmitters, and once in a while somebody with a better transmitter will bump your music off your radio.

      This happened to me one day at a stop light. I was in an extremely bad mood, and also running late to somewhere I didn't want to be in the first place, and suddenly some SUV pulls up in the lane beside me, and my precious music (the only thing keeping me sane at the time) turns into Whitesnake. With crystal clarity, clearer than my music would ever come in. Incredulous, I turned my radio off and let my passenger window down, to make sure that SUV was the source of the music. Sure enough, I heard Whitesnake blasting out of there.

      Well, to make a long story short, before the light turned green my iCarPlay was in about 15 pieces and I am now trying to shop for a replacement. =/

    10. Re:Belkin by jimicus · · Score: 1

      I had a belkin one. The design was great except for one fatal flaw.

      It provided a cradle which was fixed to a gooseneck which plugged into the cigarette lighter. But it had nothing to anchor it in place so you'd go round a corner and the whole caboodle - complete with £200 worth of iPod - went merrily flying around the car.

    11. Re:Belkin by TClevenger · · Score: 1
      FWIW, I live in a mid-size city and find the $20 Belkin model from WalMart to be usable. After plugging the 6" lead into my mp3 player, I hang the assemblage on my rearview mirror. I find the sound quality OK for voice (All Things Considered, mostly) and movies (on a laptop, when parked of course!) but subpar for music.

      But why, oh why, don't all car stereos come with an aux jack?

      I had the $20 Belkin first, but got tired of poor range and constantly replacing batteries. (I actually unplugged the power antenna in the trunk of my Honda to get much better coverage.) I've since gotten the next model up Belkin--the one with the 12V adapter. I find that it has the same range when running on batteries, but much better range when plugged in. I also found that placement matters (on the gauge shelf in my wife's Saturn, and in the pocket below the stereo in my Honda.)

      The one mandatory feature in my next stereo will be a mini-jack on the front. Even the best FM transmitter doesn't have better quality sound than a wire, and it would be nice to plug my antenna back in.

    12. Re:Belkin by DudeTheMath · · Score: 1

      I have one from Belkin that didn't make the review: lighter plug with a gooseneck to the docking transmitter with full frequency selection (except maybe 87.9 for some reason) and four presets. It charges the iPod, plays great through my Honda with it's snapped-off antenna, and I can leave the backlight on (so I can always read the display) since it's always charging. The only problem I have with it is that the cigarette ighter in the '92 Honda is crap (I've had two of these, and both have the same problem): the socket is poorly fixed in the console, and eventually somebody (in both cases, the previous owners) snaps the damned thing off, and then a big bump can cause a temporary power loss. The transmitter immediately tells the iPod to pause and resets itself (usually; sometimes the power stays off until I jiggle it), but I have to manually un-pause the iPod. In any kind of traffic, this can mean no music for a few minutes.

      But if you don't have a '92 Honda, it's terrific!

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    13. Re:Belkin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have the Belkin as well. The range really isn't very good at all. Although the thing that bugs me the most about it is the fact the Belkin does not transmit in stereo!!!! It does however send out the stereo pilot tone so your receiver will indicate that transmission is stereo, but it's not stereo. Which I find quite annoying!

      I ended up picking up some really crappy "Tune-free" transmitter online somewhere that's actually in stereo and it has much better range than the Belkin. Only problem is, it only has 14 "channels" available. Half at the top and half at the bottom of the band, and they're set using a dip switch. But it does work!

  5. My friend blew my mind with one of these by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He got me pretty good. He took over my radio when I was having a few friends over and we were listening to a weekly jazz program on NPR. I was scratching my head trying to figure out why NPR wasn't playing jazz.

    I could see how this could be alot of fun in my neighborhood if you could pull up to some jacknut who is blasting rap music at the redlight and pump something funny into their radio (barney theme song?) . Pumping some tenacious d into someones car with a NPR sticker on the back might be pretty funny as well.

    Like I said someone did this to me and I was baffled until they told me what was going on.

  6. Not in major cities by Templar · · Score: 5, Informative

    I live in NYC. There are no unused frequencies. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. There were a few before the FCC relaxed rules on small stations a couple of years ago. Now there's nothing left.

    I used to use these devices (of all brands), but in the last 2 years or so they have become completely, absolutely, 100% useless in NYC, and I'm sure it's the same in other major cities.

    And when I finally broke down and hardwired it, I was amazed at the difference in sound quality, and to this day wonder why I didn't do this years ago.

    1. Re:Not in major cities by steronz · · Score: 5, Informative

      Wiring the iPod output directly to the aux inputs on the head unit is by far the best route, but consumers need to do their research before they buy a car and/or an iPod planning on doing this. My wife has a 2005 Corolla with a 6 disc in-dash CD changer, and there is no aux input. I can't replace the head unit because it's all proprietary wiring that is dependent on several other systems. After talking to a few car stereo places, it seems like this is increasingly becoming the norm for auto makers. For us, an FM transmitter was the only feasible option, and not a very good one at that, as we live in DC and it's hard to find a free channel.

    2. Re:Not in major cities by rubens · · Score: 1

      I live in NYC. There are no unused frequencies. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. There were a few before the FCC relaxed rules on small stations a couple of years ago. Now there's nothing left.

      There's a solution: buy a Japanese radio and a Japanese transmitter, and use the frequencies 76 to 87.5 MHz...

      Don't know if you could still read the text on your radio then though, and I also don't know what other things you may interfere with at those frequencies... But my MP3 player never seems to pick any signals, so I guess it should be safe (but maybe not legal of course).

    3. Re:Not in major cities by paleo2002 · · Score: 2, Funny

      This goes for the NYC area too. I'm in north Jersey, about 30mins outside of the city. If a station isn't outright being used, the signal from a neighboring station leaks into it. 92.3 can be heard on 92.1 and 92.5, for example.

      As a last-ditch attempt, I found a website that shows you how to pry open a Griffin iTrip and pull the antenna (a 2 inch copper wire) outside the casing in hopes of boosting the signal output. By the time I was done with it, the iTrip looked about as good as it worked.

    4. Re:Not in major cities by Jazzer_Techie · · Score: 1

      There's a flipside to the issue of having no unused frequencies. Often, when in city traffic, these signals bleed into nearby cars, covering up the radio station whose frequency they are using. I haven't heard of this explicitly happening with iPod transmitters, but some of XM's satellite receivers are known to do this. http://www.boston.com/business/personaltech/articl es/2006/12/21/getting_howard_stern_off_npr/ I DJ at one of the stations experiencing this problem (http://wmbr.org/, not an NPR-affiliate) and it's disappointing when you get calls from would-be listeners who are getting Howard Stern instead of you.

    5. Re:Not in major cities by m0nstr42 · · Score: 1

      I have a Griffin one (different than the ones shown), and it's *ok*. It had a frail little arm that plugged into the cigarette lighter, but that broke so I made my own wiring harness and now it's actually a little more handy. One really nice thing about it is that it came with a USB/headphone harness, so you can use it at home with your PC or anything else. Anyways, I live in Philly and the bandwidth is also sparse here. It's frustrating having perpetually cruddy sound quality, but sans the money to buy/install a new stereo with an input jack it's an OK work-around. I also commute about 40 miles, so I have to find bandwidth that is open over a large geographical range. Luckily I've found a station that works about 90% of the time. Amusingly, local gym has now installed FM transmitters on their TVs (so treadmillers can listen while they run), which is clever, but every time I drive by the gym my music gets interrupted by CNN or ESPN.

    6. Re:Not in major cities by tylernt · · Score: 1

      The problem with many XM transmitters is that they transmit at illegally high power levels. The FCC is very clear on how much power these things can use and many of them exceed it. It's frustrating that the FCC doesn't do more to crack down on these things.

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    7. Re:Not in major cities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For those of us who are lucky enough to have a line in headphone jack on our stereo, are there any good products that make use of the dock connector to line out and charge at the same time?

      Sure, you could plug the iPod in to charge AND in to the headphone jack, but I'm looking for a 1 cable solution. There's certainly nothing in the stores where I live that's not a charger or a FM transmitter.

    8. Re:Not in major cities by Stewie241 · · Score: 1

      There's a solution: buy a Japanese radio and a Japanese transmitter, and use the frequencies 76 to 87.5 MHz...

      Not too useful if you're going to use it in the car though... if you're going to buy a new radio you might as well buy a system that has an 1/8th inch in... Probably easier to find that a Japanese radio and transmitter too.

      I thought the whole idea of these transmitters is to play your devices through your EXISTING equipment.

    9. Re:Not in major cities by EMH_Mark3 · · Score: 1
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    10. Re:Not in major cities by MadUndergrad · · Score: 1

      A few months ago I redid the sound system in my 1990 Miata, which at the time had the stock radio/tape deck and 1 (semi)working door speaker. Having an ipod, I looked around at some of those FM transmitters and the other devices. It seems the choices are either shell out $50+ for shitty sound quality, or $200+ for a new head unit that can connect to the ipod.

      I realized that I can't stand listening to radio, what with its 8 songs total intermixed with annoying ads. My solution was to wire an RCA cable from the cupholder in the center console to the trunk, directly to the amp. The stock head unit is still there, still works, just isn't plugged into any speakers. All I have to do is plug in the ipod to the cable and start it playing. Sounds great, cost all of $9 for the cable, ipod is close at hand and easy to control. And, as an extra bonus, I can take it with me when I leave the car so there's nothing to steal.

    11. Re:Not in major cities by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

      First the car audio shops you took your car too were staffed by idiots. Most car stereo installation companies sell boxes to replace the systems your car stereo provides, or has a relocator to put the stock radio inside the dash out of the way.

      At least they should have sold you a hard wired FM modulator. They disconnect your antenna, install this box in line and give you a headphone jack and switch, turn the unit on and it blasts your stereo's antenna input with 100mw at 88.5Mhz FM stereo goodness that can not be overridden by the strongest FM station because it disconnects the antenna when turned on. These things are incredibly cheap and common. companies like Scoshe and MEtra, the companies that make 95% of all car stereo install accessories, make them and recommend them. Any car stereo shop that has even 1/10th competent installers would have told you about that option right away.

      I strongly suggest finding a competent stereo shop (Note it's the one without the ricer cars in front) and talk to them about getting a good modulator installed. they work fantastic and you dont havet o screw with changing the channel every 5 miles because a station starts coming in stronger.

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    12. Re:Not in major cities by Your+Pal+Dave · · Score: 1

      There are line-in adapters which will hook into the external CD changer circuit.
      This one says that it's compatable with your factory 6-disk changer.

      Having tried both, there's no comparison between line in and FM modulator. I keep the modulator around only for use in rental cars and the occasional prank...

    13. Re:Not in major cities by battery111 · · Score: 1

      My wife has a 2005 Corolla with a 6 disc in-dash CD changer, and there is no aux input. I can't replace the head unit because it's all proprietary wiring that is dependent on several other systems. I may be wrong (too lazy to actually research this before posting), But it seems that about 6 months ago when I bought a replacement head unit for my car that had an iPOD interface, Best buy had a selection of add-on iPOD interfaces for various makes and models of vehicles. You may want to check this, as I could almost swear toyota had the biggest selection to choose from.
    14. Re:Not in major cities by thc69 · · Score: 1

      My wife has a 2005 Corolla with a 6 disc in-dash CD changer, and there is no aux input. I can't replace the head unit because it's all proprietary wiring that is dependent on several other systems.
      Sounds like an extremely easy hack to me. I bet I could find no less than two sets of line-in wires to hack...the line to the CD changer, and the line that goes to the car's body computer (to send the door chime or whatever through the stereo, per your description of dependent proprietary wiring).

      My 2002 GMC Sierra's head, there is a 9 pin connector for proprietary GM in-dash aux stuff (such as tape decks and CD changers). I bought a tape deck on ebay, hacked up the cable, and made my aux-in. I'd have just gotten the cable, but there's a data bus that requires the presence of the tape deck before the head will switch to "aux".

      For those not interested in splicing wires, cutting holes in the dash, and mounting jacks all over the place, there are commercial solutions that plug in to the aforementioned connectors on head units.

      The nice thing about FM transmitters is that you can bring it with you and use it in any vehicle you drive. Too bad they mostly suck. The only decent one I've ever used is integrated in Sirius Starmate/Xact XTR7/Streamer GT receivers; strong, clear, and needs no adjustment ever. I have a broken Starmate that I want to hack the Sirius stuff out of and just use as an FM transmitter but it's beyond my ability to do trivially. Maybe someday I'll sit down with some really sharp probes and probe lots of tiny circuits until I find one to hack.

      I've seen this $80 head at WalMart and would give it a try. It plays mp3 cds, has an SD slot, a USB port, and an 1/8" stereo front-mounted aux-in. I've had a good experience with a similar ultra-cheap unit a couple years ago and wouldn't mind trying this one either. Maybe I should buy another car so I have an excuse to get this thing...

      FM transmitters with manual tuning dials suck. Don't get one. Get one with switches or digital tuning. Not that it matters, they're all too weak except the Sirius integrated one I described above.
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    15. Re:Not in major cities by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Houston, TX is pretty bad too. But I found a solution. I simply unscrewed and removed the antenna from my Mazda Miata and placed my I-Pod in the glove box. This results in crystal clear FM audio without interference.

      If your antenna is one of those that retract automatically, you'll have to disconnect the reception wire from it from either the radio or antenna assembly end.

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    16. Re:Not in major cities by rikkards · · Score: 1

      It was called IPOD2CAR from Peripheral Electronics. I bought one refurb from Ebay about a year ago. Took me 10 minutes to get it hooked up to the stock stereo in my 03 Jeep Liberty. Before that I had a Belkin iTrip but hated driving down the highway and it getting overpowered by someone else's fm transmitter. Best $100 I ever spent. Nicest thing about it is if I get a different car I replace one cable to get it hooked up to the new one.

  7. The truckers beat us to it ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    There is a story going round that truckers in their convoys are broadcasting music to each other and are getting a great deal better than 2 M radius. The guy that told me the story gave me the details, which I forgot.

    Anyway, the idea isn't new. There were similar products for playing one's Walkman over the radio. There was also a device that played music (maybe from a Discman) over the radio by inserting it into the cassette player. (Guess we can't do that any more.)

    1. Re:The truckers beat us to it ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am developing one that will connect to a CD player in the same way that we used to connect to a cassette player, but I am having trouble because it uses so much wire so fast.

  8. Belkin by Neuropol · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Here's one from Belkin that I just picked up a few weeks ago. Charger/Transmitter in one. Also can run off of iPod power, though it's kind of power hungry, so you can't run it for hours on end. But that's alright because most of the time I use it the car, so it's plugged in to the charger any way.

  9. No "pass through" transmitters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IMO they all suck for transmission quality compared to transmitters that physically connect between the antenna and radio. Doesn't XM have something like this? Could you hack something together using an average OTA FM transmitter?

  10. Bikes aren't for everyone by tepples · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How about you step into the 21st century and move to a real city, one where you're free to travel without dragging two tons of steel with you? If you're talking about bicycling, then what's the best way to carry small children and groceries? And what's the best way to afford real estate within biking distance of the office?
    1. Re:Bikes aren't for everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Buy the presidency, it has a great commute.

    2. Re:Bikes aren't for everyone by rastom · · Score: 2, Informative

      At least 10 (out of 50) of my colleagues, like me, live within 3 miles of our office (actually it's about 1 mile for me so I walk when I'm not delivering the children by bike to school), and many of them use their bikes. We either walk back from the shop with our groceries, or they're in the trailer with the baby. The 4 year old goes on a seat on the back of my bike, and the 6 year old cycles himself. But that's not uncommon in Cambridge (UK) - it's almost definitely cheaper to live in town than to live out of town and run 2 cars.

      Living so close does mean there's not much time to listen to an iPod. We also don't have any FM receivers in the house any more - they're all digital only (my Nokia N70 has an FM receiver module, but that's where I store my portable music anyway!).

    3. Re:Bikes aren't for everyone by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      Well, there's always walking, which it seems hardly anyone even wants to think about doing anymore. As for biking, a utility bike is a good place to start. Within biking distance? It's incredibly easy to bike 10 to 15 miles to work, and it usually takes about the same amount of time as it does to drive or commute if you're dealing with an urban area. Living without a car is actually fairly easy to do if you put your mind to it.

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    4. Re:Bikes aren't for everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're in a truly urban area, you have other transportation options, to the point where driving yourself everywhere begins to feel like a comparative burden. Manhattan isn't Kansas; you don't need the 4x4 Jeep anymore. Make your life easier and ditch the fucking thing. Use the bucks you save to pay professionals to chauffeur you instead.

    5. Re:Bikes aren't for everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bicycling? Who the fuck said anything about biking? Why would you bike to the grocery store? Is it really so hard for you rural yahoos to imagine a life in which you don't have to cross the fucking continent to find food?

    6. Re:Bikes aren't for everyone by dutchmonkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      it's off-topic a bit, but for the record:

      groceries are easy. especially in a true metro area. you can find a nice bag (see baileyworks http://www.baileyworks.com/) or set up your bicycle for panniers (http://www.gaerlan.com/bikeparts/acc/bag/bag.html ) of some sort. i live in providence, ri, and cycling is pretty common. i have a young daughter and clearly wouldn't ride with her, but it really does make sense for folks without children. real estate "within cycling distance" is a relative thing. after some practice, riding upwards of 15 miles is really not a big deal and would take no more than an hour or so for someone of average fitness who knows how to properly use their bicycle.

      now that said, the more important point is that this is appearing in a thread about ipod FM transmitters. riding in a city with music is a bad idea. not to mention that carrying an extra radio for the transmitter to play with is probably sort of cumbersome...

    7. Re:Bikes aren't for everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live about 3 miles from my office. In the mornings, I catch a bus (I'm not trying to save the environment or money, parking at work sucks). At nights, I sometimes walk home (with traffic and the reduced bus schedule, it can be faster). I'd rather bike to work, but there's no showers, and I live in a warm, humid climate.

    8. Re:Bikes aren't for everyone by profplump · · Score: 1

      Actually quite a few farmers come and sit outside the Wal-Mart here to sell their goods, in person, on the day they were picked. Not to mention that if you didn't have a market downstairs you could grow your own food and eat it within minutes of harvest, without having it handled by anyone else at all.

      The country life may not be for you, not everyone wants to live with the population density your dream word requires. That and your dream world makes farmers both honored providers and second-class citizens at the same time -- you love and depend on their products, but hate their way of life. Then again, what can you expect from a troll.

    9. Re:Bikes aren't for everyone by Your+Pal+Dave · · Score: 1

      Manhattan isn't Kansas OK

    10. Re:Bikes aren't for everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...you could grow your own food and eat it within minutes of harvest, without having it handled by anyone else at all.
      Yeah, that worked real well for the Irish. Hint: When the famine hit, it wasn't urban Dublin that starved.
    11. Re:Bikes aren't for everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or just fucking take advantage of the possibilities afforded by division of labor and eat out. It's 2007--who the fuck bothers cooking anymore?

      As for your children, why would you want to instill in them a sense of dependency...


      ????????????????????

      Hmmm - interesting comparison here.
    12. Re:Bikes aren't for everyone by Petrushka · · Score: 1

      We either walk back from the shop with our groceries, or they're in the trailer with the baby. The 4 year old goes on a seat on the back of my bike, and the 6 year old cycles himself. But that's not uncommon in Cambridge (UK) -

      You must admit Cambridge is kind of a weird exception, though: the town centre is far from car-friendly. Also, while your tactic works for light stuff, even with a trailer there's a limit to how many bottles of fruit juice you can carry in one trip! I'd also comment that relying on bicycles for travel in Cambridge kind of limits your shopping options -- to Sainsburys, or, er, the other Sainsburys ... except for certain types of items, of course (cheese, meat, etc.).

      it's almost definitely cheaper to live in town than to live out of town and run 2 cars.

      FWIW, last I heard about property prices in Cambridge, it's cheaper to commute from Lille ... and yes, I know someone who did that! (Not so good if you want to see your kids for more than 3 days a week, obviously.)

    13. Re:Bikes aren't for everyone by rastom · · Score: 1

      You must admit Cambridge is kind of a weird exception, though: the town centre is far from car-friendly. Also, while your tactic works for light stuff, even with a trailer there's a limit to how many bottles of fruit juice you can carry in one trip! I'd also comment that relying on bicycles for travel in Cambridge kind of limits your shopping options -- to Sainsburys, or, er, the other Sainsburys ... except for certain types of items, of course (cheese, meat, etc.).


      While it may be an exception, it could also be an example to follow... also with shops close by we don't use the trailer much for carrying groceries. Admittedly we do use our car occasionally, and get a box delivery of organic vegetables and fruit once a week.

      FWIW, last I heard about property prices in Cambridge, it's cheaper to commute from Lille ... and yes, I know someone who did that! (Not so good if you want to see your kids for more than 3 days a week, obviously.)

      Well we did buy our bottom of the market 90k ukp 3 bedroom semi 7 years ago, which seemed pricy at the time! I'm totally daunted by the prospects for first time buyers these days, and living in Lille might even seem to be a sensible option given the iminent opening of the Eurostar terminus at St. Pancras.
  11. Yeah... by Vituperator · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Personally, I've never had a good experience with an FM transmitter. I bought a Griffin iTrip for about forty dollars, and it wouldn't work unless it was on the corner of the dashboard next to the antenna. It chewed through my iPod's batteries, and even when the radio could pick its signal up the sound quality was mediocre at best.

    Then my friend gave me another transmitter that worked better than the iTrip, but after a while it broke and the sound only came out of one speaker in my car.

    Now I just burn CDs. They aren't as convenient as an iPod, but they sure do make everything easier (not to mention cheaper).

    1. Re:Yeah... by ASBands · · Score: 1

      Now I just burn CDs.

      Don't you mean: Take your legally purchased CDs with you?

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  12. Modulator or AUX input by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I tried a few without good results and I live in a rural area. Even on a good channel the sound quality is bad.

    Nothing is going to beat a direct AUX input or an FM modulator. Using Pioneer as an example, accessories for the Pioneer p-bus range from $20 to $60 to add RCA inputs on units that don't have a factory AUX input. An FM modulator can be had for under $40. You'll need a power cord for your MP3 player, but the sound quality makes up for it.

    Your also not limited to just an iPod. I can hook up my Nomad or notebook and I have the setup our 3 vehicles. works great.

    1. Re:Modulator or AUX input by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what would be the difference between an FM modulator and an FM transmitter that they are reviewing?

    2. Re:Modulator or AUX input by hruzaden · · Score: 2, Informative

      The modulator goes in the antenna lead between the antenna and the radio. When the modulator is powered on it cuts off the antenna signal and introduces your signal into the radio on a set frequency.

      So it's still going the FM route only it's cutting off all other incoming signals.

  13. Listening to neighboring cars by dpbsmith · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I occasionally find it amusing to tune my car radio to FM 87.9, which (in the U. S.) is the default setting for most of these FM transmitter gadgets. I commute on Route 128 in Massachusetts so there is plenty of company, and more often than not there is an audible signal on 87.9.

    Mostly it seems to be people listening to Howard Stern on Sirius Satellite Radio, but you also get a sampling of other satellite stations and (most likely) iPods.

    The signal will usually be audible for the better part of a minute. Oddly enough, I've never managed to identify the car doing the transmission. You'd think you could tell from the positions of the cars around you and the strength of the signal, but I can't.

    I discovered this because I have an iPod FM transmitter, set for 87.9 myself (after much experimentation I was never able to find any less-used channel).

    What seems perverse that the signals from other cars' transmitters are not only strong enough to hear when my transmitter is off, they are strong enough to produce annoying an audible interference when my own transmitter, inside the car, is on. You'd think a transmitter two feet from the radio would totally overpower that must be at least forty feet away with two car body's worth of shielding in between, but no.

    1. Re:Listening to neighboring cars by fermion · · Score: 4, Informative
      What seems perverse that the signals from other cars' transmitters are not only strong enough to hear when my transmitter is off, they are strong enough to produce annoying an audible interference when my own transmitter, inside the car, is on. You'd think a transmitter two feet from the radio would totally overpower that must be at least forty feet away with two car body's worth of shielding in between, but no.

      Here are a couple things I believe are relevant. You car is an electrically noisy place, especially the front of the car. This is why, I believe, most modern cars have antennas at the back of the car, away from the electrically noisy engine. The radio is at the front of the car, and encased in a metal grounded cage, most often refereed to a faraday cage. This keeps the electrically noisy engine, and other signals, out of the car. In any case, the FM transmitter has an antenna on it, the length of which is likely around 1 wave length of the 100 MHZ wave, as do all the cars around you. Each of the waves must leave the car, make it to the antenna, so that radio can decode and play the wave. It may be that there are three or more cars around you may have transmitting antennas nearly as close to your receiving antennas, especially if the transmitting antenna is laid across the dashboard rather facing toward the back.

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    2. Re:Listening to neighboring cars by slowbad · · Score: 2, Funny
      It seems to be people listening to Howard Stern on Sirius Satellite Radio ...
      Oddly enough, I've never managed to identify the car doing the transmission.


      It's probably the 1997 Crown Victoria being driven by a female in the 35-54 age group demographic who's winking at you behind the limo-tint windows.

    3. Re:Listening to neighboring cars by lancelotlink · · Score: 1

      Not only was I going to tell this same story, with the same problems (Howie and the gang), but for the same state, same stretch of road, same station. The Deja Vu was stabbing me in the head something fierce. I'm still not sure I didn't write it ... My head hurts.

  14. UK Transmittors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It wasn't illegal to buy or sell FM transmittors in the UK. However it was illegal to use an FM transmittor. I have had an iRadio for about 2 years now (in the UK). It would have been incredibly hard for the police to catch you actually using the transmitting capability. Owning it wasn't illegal, just using it.

  15. AM transmitter? by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

    All the transmitting devices I have seen are FM based, and as some a number of people have mentioned trying to find an empty frequency is not always easy. Given that there are more free AM channels, I have always wondered why some of these devices don't support AM.

    I have the iTrip and it works well enough, though it is really only a backup solution. I prefered solution is cabeled:
      - In my living room I have my stereo system next to my TV, with an AUX cable going under the carpet to where my sofa is, which I plug my iPod into
      - In my car I still have a tape player, so I just use cassette adaptor
      - I have one friend who added an AUX cable to his car stereo, which can be used for iPods and the likes
    Everywhere else the iTrip does the job, but you do need to be need to be close to the stereo's FM pickup and be sure to choose a station where there is static.

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    1. Re:AM transmitter? by richard.cs · · Score: 2, Informative

      The main reason that these don't normally support AM is probably just that the sound quality is lower and it will only deliver mono audio. AM transmitters are usually simpler (and hence cheaper) to make so there has to be some kind of good reason behind it. It could also be that it's more difficult to construct an effective AM transmitting ariel in such a compact device.

    2. Re:AM transmitter? by Ogi_UnixNut · · Score: 2, Informative

      sound quality is lower and it will only deliver mono audio

      Not exactly true. You can get AM Stereo. Its just that FM took off before AM Stereo became widespread. But it's a standard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-QUAM

      I don't know about quality, as I never used AM Stereo. But some people claim AM stereo gives better stereo separation than FM. Plus at a distance of 1m I don't think interference will be a huge problem (AM actually sounds quite good when you don't have interference. Its just that AM is more prone to interference than FM).

    3. Re:AM transmitter? by saxoholic · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure AM doesn't allow for stereo sound. AM is mono only.An FM signal actually sends a couple carrier waves out within the frequency range, which is why there is stereo sound. AM only sends the one carrier wave, and sound is mono. That's why the transmitters only use FM

    4. Re:AM transmitter? by Neth66 · · Score: 1

      I used to have a car stereo with AM stereo. I don't think there were any stereo stations in my area though.

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    5. Re:AM transmitter? by richard.cs · · Score: 1

      I stand corrected, AM stereo exists (it just isn't used in the UK for some reason). I'd still expect some interference even at that range though due to the tiny power limits that these transmitters are subject to. No real way of testing that until someone makes an AM version though.

  16. It broke my iPod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bought a Kensington Pico. The first day, I plugged it to my 5th gen. iPod, and it worked nicely. When I unplugged it, my iPod didn't turn off again. I tried everything, from restore factory settings to physically open it and unplug the battery. Nope. It doesn't turn off, and the battery dries up in no time... (sigh)

  17. iPods in cars are dangerous by Skidge · · Score: 1

    I use my iPod in my car with an FM transmitter occasionally and find that the iPod's interface is totally unsuitable for use while driving. Using the scroll wheel, it's very hard to accurately pick out a particular item from a menu without looking. I'd rather not use the thing than pull over to switch songs or pick out a different podcast.

    Has anyone had luck with more integrated iPod-in-the-car options? Perhaps one with buttons?

  18. No. Get a new head unit with an aux. input. by glrotate · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I got a $99 Sony from Best Buy.

    1. Re:No. Get a new head unit with an aux. input. by leon.gandalf · · Score: 1

      Honestly, I cannot understand why anyone would even get a head unit without an AUX in.

    2. Re:No. Get a new head unit with an aux. input. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GM head units control some of the onboard computer controls. SHH.

  19. Eclipse iPod Interface by dloseke · · Score: 1

    I installed an Eclipse CD player in my SUV a few months ago with the intention that I could install the iPod interface in it if I decided that I didn't get good enough quality or reception in the iTrip I purchased for my wifes car. Sure enough, I was ordering the $50ish iPod interface from Circuit City less than a week later. There are some quirks with it, but overall it's much better. It uses the Eclipse data bus so I can add a HD tuner to it later for regular radio (the HD Tuner is something like $300, so I'm holding off on that) for a bit. The sound quality is just like listening through headphones since there's no chance of losing signal going through the air. I actually have the iPod hidden under my armrest so I never have to mess with it, and can control it only through my receiver. I have to say getting to some of the features are somewhat clunky, but it works great otherwise. Alpine has a good interface for doing the same, but I changed over to Eclipse because of the price of the Alpine iPod interface, and the fact that I don't like the large knob on the new Alpine decks...they just seem cheap when you can wobble the knob all around. All in all, no more FM transmitter for me....if you can't directly interface the iPod with your head unit and don't have a Aux Input, at least get a FM Modulator that will plug directly into your antenna line...there's definitely a difference.

  20. Belkin is handy with a laptop by Aging_Newbie · · Score: 1

    I use the Belkin adapter with my laptop and really good sounding FM radio to provide audio from DVDs. Sounds better than computer speakers and outside a car its range is OK.

  21. but maybe not legal of course by tylernt · · Score: 1

    but maybe not legal of course
    Maybe illegal? Certainly illegal, and the FCC loves to issue $10,000 fines for stuff like that.

    That spectrum is occupied by TV channels 5 and 6, BTW.
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  22. I ahve the non iPod Kessington by night_flyer · · Score: 1

    aka Kensington Universal FM Transmitter (available from Amazon.com) it was heads and shoulders above my previous Sony DCC-FMT3 Car FM Stereo Transmitter which I litterally had to attache the magnet from the antenna to my trucks arial. it also muffled the sound an any sudden jump of music like a loud drum beat.

    I purchased the kensington to use in rental cars over the summer, and with the first trip out of the way I was impressed, traveling from Tulsa, OK though Rogers AR to Branson Mo, and then down trough AR to Dallas TX then back up to OK City to go back to Tulsa. we had to change the freq about 4 times the entire trip, and overall we were quite happy with it. If you are looking for flawless sound you would be better off getting something the doesnt go through the FM band, but for rental cars it does the trick just fine

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  23. having trouble finding a vacant frequency? by night_flyer · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/vacant

    plan you trip with some presets!

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  24. Waste of money by Orlando · · Score: 1

    I bought an iTrip a couple of years back but was very dissapointed with it. Not only was the sound quality terrible at it's best, it was impossible to find an unused frequency when in a built up area. Plus, on long journeys you are forever retuning the thing as you move from one area to the next, chasing unused frequencies.

    I then looked into an expensive iPod compatible stereo, but finally went for a 16 euro faux cassett type adapter. Works perfectly. I've only had to replace it once when the wire broke. One thing you have to do though is to oil the mechanism a little to stop it squeaking.

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    1. Re:Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have learned so much from this forum...I gotta come here more often. Since we are talking about ipods, I found a great site that reviews http://www.ipod-converting-software.com/ ipod video converter software. They have free trials too. Anyways, thanks for all the info!

  25. Big thanks to Don Foster! by jonny_boy27 · · Score: 0

    The lib dem MP for Bath (and LD shadow sec for culture and sport) who started the ball rolling on making personal FM transmitters legal

  26. Depends on your car too by technopinion · · Score: 1

    I tried an iTrip a couple of years ago and wanted to throw it out the window every time I used it, the sound quality was so bad. Turned out my problem was partly in my Subaru Outback, the FM antenna is in the rear window, not the front window. I wasn't about to leave the iPod in the trunk all the time, so I bought another universal FM transmitter that could plug into the trunk power socket, and then ran an extension cable to the audio out of the ipod. Works much better, but still not great. If you, like me, have an intense dislike for static and distortion, stay away from FM transmitters.

  27. Given the build quality of the ipod by kennylogins · · Score: 1

    It would be a good idea if these were universally adaptable. (2 broken ipods in a little over a year).

  28. better transmitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  29. iRiver AFT-100 by Frank+Dreben · · Score: 1

    Tried a couple of these (the Belkin in particular really sucked). I finally settled on the iRiver AFT100. It plugs right into the cigarette lighter plug and has a 1/8" plug. It's get just enough signal strength and the audio is loud enough. No batteries required, 3 presets and covers the whole FM band.

    The Belkin had low audio, so that when the signal was fading due the weak transmitter the noise was deafening. It was extremely frustrating and I took great joy in destroying it.

    Another really good one is the CCrane FM transmitter. http://www.ccrane.com/radios/fm-transmitters/fm-tr ansmitter.aspx It works great but it really isn't very convenient to use in the car.

  30. Athermic Windscreens by timmyf2371 · · Score: 1

    I drive a 2001 Renualt Laguna and it has athermic heat-reflecting glass for the windows. One of the side-effects of these are that signals, such as GPS, radio, etc, have a really hard time penetrating the windows.

    When I tried using one of these FM transmitters with my music player (I don't use an iPod) I had problems, as the radio aerial is on the outside of the car. So I bought a Sony head unit, with a USB socket on the front, for £100. Now I can plug in any USB mass storage device or USB music player - it even plays playlists I have created.

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  31. One word: Alpine by Overzeetop · · Score: 2, Informative

    I know, I know, this is about FM transmitters. Give them up and go spend a couple bills on one of the new low end Alpine head units.

    Like this one (9883, $200) or this one (9885, $300) and then drop in their dedicated $30 ipod adapter. That's what - $230...about 40 pounds, nowadays, right? (I kid! and no, I don't know how to put the symbol in slashcode)

    Best audio connection, browsing by all the ways you can browse the iPod text interface, and song info on the screen. I'm certain the UK versions are similar (Alpine shows the same adapter for Alpine-Europe). Yes, it's more money than a cheap FM transmitter , but the difference is pretty phenominal, and there's no worries about getting tramped on by a commercial station or someone else's adapter. And no looking down, fiddling with the ipod on the passenger seat (you can ignroe the road while you look at the head unit ;-)

    I actually purchased the head unit first, then the ipod to go with it. For $70 I picked up an old gen 4, 20 gig ipod off ebay. Scratched, battery only takes about 1/2 a charge, but who cares - it's in the glove box with all my tunes (Thanks to foobar and Nero AAC) and powered off the head unit. Cheaper than a disc changer - and much more useful. I never really figured to get an iPod, but for the application, it turns out to be a good item at the right price.

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    1. Re:One word: Alpine by jimicus · · Score: 2, Funny

      (I kid! and no, I don't know how to put the symbol in slashcode)

      It's easy. Type "£".

    2. Re:One word: Alpine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The main problem I have found is that I have never been able to find a head unit that even resembles the other components in my E36 BMW. The design of the E36 is very industrial with sharp edges and red coloring. Every single head-unit out there nowadays is all rounded, chromed, and with anything but red coloration which looks like total crap.

      With that said my stock radio is Alpine and probably has AUX inputs for the CD changer that would go in the trunk. I have never bothered to look into though.

    3. Re:One word: Alpine by ncc74656 · · Score: 1

      (I kid! and no, I don't know how to put the symbol in slashcode)

      It's easy. Type "£".

      I can't seem to find that on my keyboard...might it be next to the Any key? :-)

      In general, cutting-and-pasting infrequently-used symbols from Character Map (Windows), kcharselect (Linux), or whatever will get the job done...as long as it's one of the handful of characters that Slashcode won't filter out.

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  32. belkin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ive used the belkin one and it was garbage.
    i bought a monster cable one. theres two versions (one for ipod) and one for other players.
    About 60$. but its been the best fm transmitter ive used.

  33. Helpful hint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This won't always help but I found if I retracted my car antenna completely when using my FM modulator ($15 Radio Shack special...) in the car right next to the radio I got very good reception and didn't have external stations to contend with. Now with my new car it doesn't have a external antenna so I do have more interference problems.

  34. Alpine? by UserChrisCanter4 · · Score: 1

    For the price of some of those ridiculous I.C.E. systems, you can just throw in an Alpine Full-Speed compatible deck. The cheapest deck with iPod control capability runs about $120, and the iPod cable is $30. You get direct control over the ipod from the deck - the volume knob acts like the scroll wheel to move through menus and songs. The interface isn't exactly "iPod screen in your dash," but it's pretty decent on its own. Plus, it interfaces through the dock connector and powers/charges your iPod while it's connected. On top of that, even the cheap Alpine deck probably has much better internal components than your factory deck, so it might sound a little better (although that's going to be hindered by the crappy paper speakers your car came with).

    The only situation where it doesn't work well is if you have steering wheel audio controls or a navigation system with audio interface, but otherwise, I've been very happy with my Alpine setup.

  35. Wait, I thought iPod+ iTunes was evil? by jpellino · · Score: 1

    This is /. right?
    Let me check the calendar... April1... nope. Sadie Hawkins Day... nope.
    Hmmm... WX report for Hell... ah! There it is!

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  36. Not in US - iStuff iCast by tedhiltonhead · · Score: 1

    Too bad I can't find an iStuff iCast on Amazon.com or ebay -- looks like a UK-only product.

  37. NEW!! - USB Stick Adapter with FM Modulator $30.00 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just came back from a trip to China where I got my dream player.
    This thing is much smaller than an iPod and has a socket that
    accepts any USB memory stick. You can also plug in some ear buds.

    But it also has an internal FM transmitter. It comes with a power
    adapter that plugs into a cigarette lighter. All very small.

    Of course, it has automatic discovery that locates all the MP3's
    and play lists on the thumbdrive. An LCD display and navigation
    buttons allow you to select any of them.

    Suddenly, my old pickup truck is a concert hall !!!!!
    AND the price at current exchange rates was under $30.00

    I've been looking for them in stores here because I want to
    buy some for gifts - but I can't find them, and I won't be going
    back to China for another 8 to 12 months.

    Glad I didn't waste my money on an iPod before traveling.

  38. Doesn't anyone else use a cassette adapter? by yuna49 · · Score: 1

    I bought the Monster-branded one of these a couple months back, and it seems to work fine with my Cowon A2. You have to be careful to keep the output of the player at a reasonable level or you'll over-modulate the tape input; for additional amplification, you turn up the radio itself. Before I bought this I read a number of reviews of media player -> car radio adapters, and they all recommended cassette adapters over FM transmitters. I never have to worry about finding an empty frequency or interference from neighboring transmitters or interfering with neighboring radios.

    Plus it only cost about $25.

  39. Beowulf cluster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, with a Beowulf cluster of these you can have your own radio station?

  40. Scosche WIRED FM modulator by Majestros · · Score: 2, Informative
    I just found the following product to use as an auxiliary jack for my car without buying a new deck.

    http://www.crutchfield.com/S-yd5TEirUa9W/cgi-bin/p rodview.asp?i=142FMMOD01/

    The device wires in series with your car's antenna (a male and a female plug on the device) so that it doesn't have to send the signal wirelessly. Also, when the device is turned on it blocks the antenna for a large band of frequencies around the transmission frequency so there is NO interference. I'm having some slight gain problems, but it works so much better than those wireless transmitters. You need to wire it in to your car's 12 V and ground but I just picked up a cigarette lighter plug with power switch from Radio Shack and wired it to the device. As such, I ended up having to do no hardware modifications to the car, just get behind the deck to hook up the antenna jacks.

    1. Re:Scosche WIRED FM modulator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had tried a few of the FM transmitter adapters before, and had horrible results every time.
      I got one of these Scosche wired adapters last month for my wife's car after her tape deck broke (she had been using the tape adapter to use her MP3 player). Installation was relatively painless. The resulting sound quality is wonderful. Only in a few isolated spots in here in the Boston area have I ever had any interference.
      I liked it so much that I ordered a second one (both from Shop4tech.com) and will be putting in my car this weekend.

      BigFig

    2. Re:Scosche WIRED FM modulator by hondo77 · · Score: 1

      I have one of Scosche's wireless FM transmitters for my 2nd gen Nano. Mmm, bluetooth remote on the steering wheel. Very nice.

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  41. My idea of the Ultimate Car Audio System by ClarkMills · · Score: 1

    IMHO:

    Don't bother with FM transmitters, the Car aerial is on the outside of the car with the (weak) FM transmitter on the insife of the (metal) car.
    My idea of the ultimate car "stereo" would have a CF slot that would be populated with a Bluetooth module by default. You could re-populate the CF slot with your own CF card.
    Sadly, it doesn't help us now for those of us that have FM only car stereos.

    PS: CF is the best as it is not sticky-outy (ie can be flush) and you can fit adaptors for all the other memory sizes.
    Anyway, this is my $0.02 worth, hopefully someone will either say: "You want model "123" of brand "XYZ", or will go out and design this into their next car stereo.

    Cheers... Clark

  42. Alright, funny boy by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    £

    Thank you for the tip, even if I did have to view the html source (actually, I browsed the posts to look for it before I posted, and just couldn't find an example quickly enough)

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    1. Re:Alright, funny boy by jimicus · · Score: 1

      Actually, I just typed £ - didn't bother with typing £ in full.

      It's directly above 3 on a UK keyboard.

  43. Cassette deck anyone? by patrick_leb · · Score: 1

    I had one of those FM transmiters and it was a horrible experience. Since my van still has a cassette player, I bought one of those fake cassettes that has an input jack attached to it. Sound is not bad at all and it plugs right into the iPod headphone jack.

  44. Ford and mp3 by breman · · Score: 1

    Ford has come out with some nice mp3 capability over the years...

    mp3 capable cd players avail on most models http://www.fordvehicles.com/util/uad/index.asp?nPo pupID=11938&iWinType=1
    triptunes for enhanced mp3 player capability http://www.fordaccessoriesstore.com/fas/b2c/featur ed_accessories.asp?id=25
    audio input jacks on most new models http://media.ford.com/newsroom/release_display.cfm ?release=23959
    And now Sync http://www.syncmyride.com/

  45. Re:NEW!! - USB Stick Adapter with FM Modulator $30 by thc69 · · Score: 1

    An LCD display
    I think ATM machines have LCD displays too, right?
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  46. Re:NEW!! - USB Stick Adapter with FM Modulator $30 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does your wondrous device have a name,etc.? I'm interested and will do my best to search it out!

    I have one of these: http://www.roadmasterusa.com/fmmod_vr3.php (5th one down - VRFM7W) in my car and it works great. But it sounds like yours does more.

  47. AUX In for Subarus by thepod · · Score: 1

    http://www.jazzyengineering.com/ Check them out. I installed one of their kits in my 2005 Outback and it works great!

  48. 3.5mm stero jack please... by GotenXiao · · Score: 1

    Seriously, I don't know why it took companies so long to figure it out. Put a 3.5mm stereo jack on THE FRONT of the head unit, and allow any stereo input into it. Should've become a standard feature back when CD players became popular, and even now it's still quite rare (more manufacturers are opting instead for a USB socket on the front, which quite frankly I don't care for; let me just wire in whatever audio source I like!)

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  49. Re:NEW!! - USB Stick Adapter with FM Modulator $30 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for the feedback. The one I bought was probably made by the same
    manufacturer. I looks more like the VRFM8BLN, just above yours, because
    it has the swivel joint between the cigarette lighter plug and the player
    body. It also has the same type of fuse layout.

    I'm glad it has the swivel because my stick-shift would clobber it unless
    I fold it down.

    It has a couple more buttons, and it also has a small, rectangular 2 line
    scrolling LCD text display. Depending on the status, the display shows
    time remaining, "track", name of the selection and FM frequency. The display
    is sharp and clear but very small. Actually, I don't think I've ever seen
    such a small font on any other device. (no backlight)

    The manufacturer's identity is not given on the device or the operating
    booklet. Even though I bought it in Shanghai, the booklet was in English.

    Someone else told me that they somtimes appear on ebay, but I can't confirm
    this yet. Anyway, thanks again for the pointer. That's exactly what I needed.

  50. What I like to do is. by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

    Tune my FM transmitter to the popular country station, plug in my Shuffle and turn it up. Fun times. Fun times.

  51. Plotting FM used frequencies by ZorroXXX · · Score: 1
    To help finding the best "blank" frequency spot I wrote a gnuplot script when I bought myself a FM sender (JTNSF311) a few weeks ago. You might find it useful.

    I wanted to send FM from my PC in order to avoid switching audio input between TV/video and my PC on my hi-fi system like I currently do, but I use an external FM radio antenna outside the house and the reception with this was unfortunately not good enough. The sound is ok/good enough for the small radio I have in the bathroom though, so at least I do not have to turn up the volume in the living room to hear PC audio there.

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