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80 Gig PS3 Arrives in US
Gamespot reports that the newest version of the PlayStation 3, complete with 80 GB hard drive, has arrived in the US. Along with 20 more gigs of memory, the unit comes bundled with the racer MotorStorm. This comes after last month's announcement of a price drop, and the subsequent revelation that the cheaper unit is being phased out in favour of this 80 gig model. "But while the 60GB console's days are numbered, its supply is holding up despite a massive increase in demand. According to Sony, sales of the console have increased 113 percent at its top five retail partners--Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, Circuit City, and GameStop--when compared to average sales during the month before drop. Sony did not supply specific sales figures for the PS3, which sold 98,500 units in the US in June, according to the NPD group. So when will stocks of the $499 60GB PS3 run out? Sony predicts that, at current demand levels, the console will remain in the North American retail channel until fall."
GAH!! This is the sort of thing I expect from talking to average people about computers; I can grin and bear it when it shows up on non-technical news sources - but this is Slashdot, for fuck's sake. You know, "news for nerds?" What's next, we start seeing stories referring to the whole box as a "CPU" or "hard drive?"
It doesn't have 20 more gigs of memory, it's got a 20 GB larger hard drive. Is this so difficult to get right?
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Could somebody please explain what the point of a hard drive is in a game console? I've been happily using my PS2 for many years with no hard drive, and I don't see what the point of a hard drive in a console is, other than to increase noise, heat, size, and parts that can break.
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That's pretty sad.... I have lost all faith.
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Its a good marketing ploy by Sony. And its bringing back huge profit, but will bringing the price back up be a good thing? I dont think so. With the price of the Wii being way below the price range of the other next gen systems, Xbox 360's price drop, I think Sony needs to see that the $500 price is the best thing that they have had for the system. Maybe drop the price of the 80gb in....what? Four to six months? Think about it Sony....
I mean, 20G extra harddrive and a free game (one of, like, 3 worth playing for the PS3 at the moment), and the set available in the UK at least of the original price but with an extra controller and *two* games bundled, just a few months after launch, would normally get people who bought it into a rage that they didn't get value for money.
Luckily nobody who bought a PS3 knows what "value for money" is.
Shouldn't the title read "80 PS3's arrive in US"?
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I know I'm getting a PS3 "someday", probably next year when I save up the money. But the 60 GB version still has the emotion chip hardware, so it's pretty much 100% compatible with all of my old PSOne and PS2 games, which will hold me over until the good PS3 games start coming in.
On the other hand, if I do wait, there's a chance those will be all gone by next year.
Hm. Actually kind of a tough choice, because this isn't "OMG GIMME NOW!" kind of thing, but more a "If I don't act now, I'll wind up getting the kind of crappier one later." Yeah, I know, the software emulation does all sorts of neat tricks to "upscale" it, but I usually find I don't give a crap. (Heck, I just put in the original "Persona" into my PS2 the other day for the first time and was perfectly pleased with them old 1990's graphics.)
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technically, the memory reference is correct. hard drive storage is a type of memory used by pcs and the like. the term memory can refer to ram, cache, hdd. so it's vague, and i agree that it's annoying; but it isn't wrong.
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The only way they can profit at the moment is to sell _fewer_ consoles.
Don't you guys remember "secondary memory" from your OS classes? Sheesh.
Would you have accepted 20 more gigs of space?
In case Sony hasn't noticed yet, a $600 pricetag hasn't been all that great for the PS3. Hopefully they're not stupid enough to keep the new 80 GB PS3 at $600 once the supply of $500 models run out. Then again, this is Sony that we're talking about.
I'm fairly sure that once the supply of 60 GB models is gone they're going to have to drop this package down to $500 if they have any hopes of continuing sales into the holiday season. First of all, for the extra $100 I get a an extra 20 GB that I don't care about and a game that I really don't want. They have some great games coming out between now and next year, but I don't think too many people are going to care if the only way to play them is on a $600 machine. $500 even seems like a steep asking price to me, but it's a lot better than $600. For $600 they'd really need to throw in an extra controller and any game of my choice. At that point it works out to about even in my book. If they really wanted to make a splash, drop it down to $450 and gain some good marketshare over the holidays.
Sony predicts that, at current demand levels, the console will remain in the North American retail channel until fall. In plain old englisch: "Yeah, we extremely overestimated the demand and have produced so much stock that it will take almost five months till the last of the consoles is sold."
Luckily nobody who bought a PS3 knows what "value for money" is.
You're right - I am such an idiot for spending $600 on a next gen gaming console, hi-def movie player, UPnP media client. Add in the waste of $170 I spent on my PSP to play mobile games and access this $600 piece of junk from any WAP in the world and I feel like a total moron. Why do I even listen to myself when I should just call you instead? I mean, taking into account all the great mini-games available (Calling All Cars, Flow, Stardust HD) and coming soon (Echochrome, LBP, Pain) for the console, the ability to play games and movies in 1080p on my 46" TV and the ability to play FOR FREE the great online games both available (Resistance, Rainbow Six, The Darkness) and exclusives coming soon (UT3, Warhawk) shows what a big mistake this was.
How's your Wii Fit?
No, because space is measured in metres. 20 more gigs of storage would be nice.
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No no,
space is meseared in square metres and storage in cube meters !
That's some nice trolling there. And funny how you contradict your earlier post, claiming that Sony can only profit by selling fewer consoles. Selling units at a loss is pretty common for new consoles (although I'm guessing you already knew that). If you don't want all the features of a PS3, obviously you shouldn't buy it but to say that it isn't "value for money" is just ridiculous.
I guess if you can afford the 46" 1080p TV, half a dozen games in as many months, multiple consoles, AND a large collection of Blu-ray movies to justify using the PS3 to play those too, then $600 isn't much more than pocket change.
Funny that it's a "next-gen gaming console" but you can't list a reason to play games on it *now* than minigames. I mean, you want to spend several thousand dollars to play fl0w in HD? Then you really do not know what value for money is.
Listen I agree that Fross was trolling in that post. And you took the bait, so fair enough for everyone involved. But it has to be frustrating that you spent $100 more for what, a few months of ownership?
Oh and this made me smile a bit "and exclusives coming soon". Awesome.
But anyone who thinks the ps3 isn't going to be an awesome console in a year or less is just crazy. It is in its ramp-up time right now, which is to be expected. And once it gets a lot of stuff worked out that xbox did in its first year, it'll be a fantastic console.
Hard drive space is memory too. It's just not very fast compared to RAM. Of course, you wouldn't have been able to try and sound smart if you'd remembered that fact, so we understand. You need to grab self esteem where you can get it, and we know you won't find much of it in your Mom's basement. The fact that you must have failed basic Comp Sci just underscores how bad you must feel when you look in the mirror.
This whole thing is a little cute, I think. Instead of doing something to actually make the PS3 worth $599 to consumers, Sony is essentially saying "better get one now before the price goes back up!" Is 20GB of hard drive space worth $100 to anyone? I know they are sticking Motorstorm in there too, but that isn't going to last forever.
While your point of playing games now is true, much to my chagrin, it is also the cheapest your gonna get the better hardware deal, the 60GB is superior to the 80GB due to the emotion chip.
As for the rest of your post, gaming is a leisure activity, therefore you should only be spending expendable income on it. If you have the means to game, you can probably afford the 1080p TV anyways since it will go nicely with your HDTV and surround sound system. If you are making a choice between a new game and eating this week you should probably get some sort of help or get your priorities straight.
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> The only way they can profit at the moment is to sell _fewer_ consoles.
Based on a model wherein the consumer purchases zero games and the manufacturing cost of the console never goes down over time. Get a clue.
I actually attempted to avoid all of the other hype stuff - no mention of Home, FF XIII, or Killzone (I'm still skeptical on that one). You have MGS 4 and MGS online, whatever/whenever that will be.
But why buy early? Because I was mostly a PC gamer with $600 but not $1500 to replace my mobo, processor, video card, and upgrade my RAM to get next-gen graphics on a 20" monitor. I'll admit it - I'm in for the eyecandy as well as the gameplay. So I don't see it as a $400 vs. $600 debate, I see it as a $600 versus $1500 debate. I mean, did I know in January that the PS3 would be good in a year - not necessarily. But $50 a year for XBL turned me off, I heard bad things about the hardware, and I had a PSP already. So why not just stick with what I had? And, I wasn't sure I was going to have that $600 cash available in six months, so I wanted to commit it when I had it in my hands.
Square meters, cubic meters, etc. are all measurements of physical space. It just depends on how many dimensions you care about. Storage is measured in the capacity of what you're storing--in this case, data.
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Isn't a hard drive technically considered secondary memory?
>How's your Wii Fit?
:)
In my Honda Fit, of course. Which I was able to afford (along with the Wii) by *not* buying into uPnP, PS3, HDTV, or any of that other bullshit.
But hey, if you want to pump $5,000 into a decent 1080p HDTV, $2,000+ into your PSP, PS3, & accessories/games, and $3,000 into whatever ridiculous stereo I'm sure you have for these things that's your choice. Myself, I think I'll go to work in my new car.
I'm not sure I recently got a Playstation 3 for £425 I got two controllers, Stealth (a poor film), Hitch (which I like), Motorstorm and Resistance: Fall of Man. When you consider I paied £220 for a PS2 with two controllers I bought two games with that which cost £80 I think so I spent £300 on that 2002 Christmas.
Compared to today your average blueray film is £25 (I know I was out looking today) and the PS3 bringing back the old mega drive level of prices (£50, which I agree is insane) taking the cost of the extra's the consoles £275, not cheap by any stretch of the imagination but not that much more that my PS2 either.
As much as I wanted a price drop it is good value for money, its a decent media centre has some smart additional functionality with my PSP which I think it cool on top of being a extremly good games console like my PS2. In the end I bought it for the same reasons I bought a PS2 it is the cheapest social activity in existance, for expsense for every hour of fun its at the top of the table and bowling, cinema, paintballing, and go karting don't even come close.
As for games you should buy the system which suites you, I hate the Wii as every game I've found lacks any form of challenge and I think the controllers a gimmick, the Xbox360 has very little appeal because any game I see on it that I like is also avaliable on the PC, you'd be right if I bought a PS3 on release day with the new bundle I'd be upset but fact is I don't think they will and there are more than a few games I'm interested in.
Because I was mostly a PC gamer with $600 but not $1500 to replace my mobo, processor, video card, and upgrade my RAM to get next-gen graphics on a 20" monitor.
First of all, if it would take $1500 to upgrade your computer, you suck ass at shopping. I could build a perfectly usable gaming machine from scratch for $600 -- if you've got an existing computer that has any recent parts at all, that should be enough to make it very good. A $1500 computer will blow away anything a PS3 will ever be able to do.
I'll admit it - I'm in for the eyecandy as well as the gameplay.
Second of all, let me say that you're what's wrong with modern video gaming. Developers who worry more about graphics than gameplay because of people like you are what causes so much trash to fill the shelves.
I wasn't sure I was going to have that $600 cash available in six months, so I wanted to commit it when I had it in my hands.
You've also got poor finance management skills. You don't know that you'll be able to afford $600 in six months, so you blow it now on a game console you're not sure about? What are you doing, trying to make a wreck out of your financial situation?
If you can even Fit in that little hunk of shit.
I think all of those are great points! I wasn't trying to bash you or anything for being an early adapter (I bought the hd-dvd add-on quite early... albeit used) so I completely understand that. The 360 worked for me and the ps3 works for you. Can't we all just get along!? ;)
My biggest point of jealousy over the ps3 right now is the psp integration you mentioned. I won a PSP at work, and have found it extremely fun and useful. I'm not sure I'd exactly need/use any of the psp-ps3 features but... ya know, the more integration the better.
Definitely though, enjoy the ps3! Without trying to be biased I think you have to give the 360 the nod for being a better console right now, but once the ps3 has had as much time on the market as the 360 has, I think its going to be an extremely close race if not flat out won by Sony.
But has anyone forgotten that you can swap out HDD's with out wiping the system? Guess so.....
Everyone around here is throwing around this emotion chip business. Is it possible for Sony to use a firmware update to disable the chip in the older systems and favor software emulation? I read somewhere that Sony is ditching the chip because of performance reasons and that they were going to drop support for the chip. Does this mean that they can just force all consoles (even ones previously bought) to software emulation? If so, then all this artificial value created behind the 60gig PS3 is just that -- artificial.
Moving to software emulation isn't a bad idea. It removes extra hardware from the system, thus making it easier to make the console smaller and cheaper. I only see this as a good thing. I'll probably pick one up within a year after they drop the price to around $450 (which is quite reasonable considering that the 80 gig PS3 is supposedly cheaper to produce than the 60 gig one).
By the way, I have heard people say that they can put in a 250 gig HDD for less than $100 so buying the 80 gig is a waste of money. I just would like to stand on my soapbox and say -- WRONG! The PS3 uses laptop harddrives and from a quick search on newegg, all 250 gig HDDs cost $200.
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The only way they can profit at the moment is to sell _fewer_ consoles.
You and I have no idea and the article says nothing. Sony does not have a habitof selling things at a loss. Only Microsoft and Sega have ever done that for more then a few weeks (PS2 was confirmed ot be sold ata a loss for all of a month). Otherwise it's just analysts talking out their ass comparing "wholesale" part prices which don't reflect "manufactured inhouse" prices. They ussually fudge a certain discount figure into their numbers but they really have no idea.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
Funny that it's a "next-gen gaming console" but you can't list a reason to play games on it *now* than minigames. I mean, you want to spend several thousand dollars to play fl0w in HD? Then you really do not know what value for money is.
Blu-ray, ninja gaiden sigma, Resistance, motostorm, use as a media center, spare linux boxen, and future potential. Value is relative. I doubt you'd find value in getting a Lexus Rx350 but my GF thought $67,000 CND + tax provided value. I doubt most would find value in buying a $2000 CND gucci purse but I felt it had enough value to get it for the GF. Similiarly the PS3 provides me with value on my two HDTV's. I make a modest slary. Likely less then you but I save well and skimp ont he unnessacary expenses and splurge on the big things.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
Way to go guys, ignoring the fact that the price drop made your first real sales since launch. Go ahead and shovel more hundreds onto the price while charging more per gigabyte than anyone pays for an external USB drive! Go ahead and lose that momentary momentum in the sales and let people continue to proclaim the Wii as the winner despite its (totally expected) bland third-party offerings. Who the hell pays $100 for 20GB of storage anymore?
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It's all perspective ol chap, please explain the value of a Wii to some homeless guy in the street. To be honest, I don't have time to play a dozen games, so being "stuck" with Resistance, Motostorm, NInja Gaiden, and all my PS2 titles, excluding the fact I use it as my main source of media (music, movies, etc) is pretty fine by me. I thought of getting a 360... I like FFXI... DOA4 would be nice, Gears of War was cool (but beat it and would buy it on PC anyways) so would that zombie killing in a mall thing. But halo bores me, so wow, ya, so many more games that interest me. I find I prefer getting quality games over quantity. Most of the 360 games I would consider buying i'd rather play on my PC.
The 80GB has the "software PS2 emulation" as opposed to the hardware emulation that the current models do. That's a reason right there to buy the current one and just change the hard drive out.
I'll keep things short. You clearly state, intelligently, that neither you nor the person you replied to are in any position to discern Sony's margins on their consoles, positive or negative. Next, you make a statement claiming something concerning Sony's margins on their consoles.
I find this an amusing case of discrediting one's own statements. It may be the case that Sony doesn't make a habit of selling at a loss; but as you yourself said none of us are in a position to say one way or the other.
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I'm fairly sure that once the supply of 60 GB models is gone they're going to have to drop this package down to $500
Of course they will - but just as obviously, there's no way they are going to price the 60GB and 80GB models the same until the 60GB are gone!
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Some people would prefer to have the 60GB unit because the 80GB unit has no Emotion Engine, but they're worried about the stock running dry before they have enough reason to buy one.
The reason they dropped the emotion engine is because they can do in software now what the hardware was doing.
No it's not quite as good - but software can be improved over time, and it's good enough now.
Once you learned to ride a bike, did you keep buying training wheels for new bikes or did you drop them with your bike upgrades?
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Sony does not have a habitof selling things at a loss. I find this an amusing case of discrediting one's own statements. It may be the case that Sony doesn't make a habit of selling at a loss; but as you yourself said none of us are in a position to say one way or the other. The two statements are not mutually exclusive. Fross and myself have no idea of the true margin of the Ps3. From all released data, Sony does not sell products at a loss. No HDTV's, Not walkmans, not the Ps2, not anything. So both statements can be true. Sony does not make a habit of losing money on units sold and we have no idea of in this particular case if this habit is repeated.
A example:
I do not know if my GF likes her last present. she does not have a habit of disliking gifts. One statement is a statement of this case, and the other is a statement about general history and trends.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
I bought the PS3 when it was $600, and I got the warranty. I'd better cash in on that before the 60 gig PS3's are gone, because when I can get a 500 gigabyte hard drive for the same price difference between the two PS3's, I can't really justify getting the 80 gig. And who really gives a shit about MotorStorm?
Emphasis mine.
"The means to game" is a highly subjective measure, and you appear to imply that having the means requires one have enough expendable income to purchase a number of expensive consumer items that are arguably out of range for many people who would otherwise be classified as "gamers".
"The means to game" is not a black and white, boolean variable. There is greater range and variety in disposable income and interests than $0 and $infinite. It is possible that one's disposable income per month is $30, or $300, or $3000. While the first might make the "choice between a game and eating next week", and the last be able to purchase a complete home theatre system every month, the middle is in a grey medium you don't seem to account for.
In short, some people who aren't able to afford (quoting the GP) "the 46 inch 1080p TV, half a dozen games in as many months, multiple consoles, AND a large collection of Blu-ray movies" are not living paycheck to paycheck. They have enough disposable income to buy consoles and games, but not to purchase expensive home theatre systems.
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flamebait?
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
The two statements aren't, at face value, mutually exclusive. However, the implication of your first statement (and as common sense would dictate) is that you (not being a Sony employee) have no knowledge or authority regarding Sony's hardware practices (and neither does Fross). You are, however, our only source for the second statement; a statement concerning Sony's hardware practices. Hence, a potential conflict.
The implication is probably not intentional, but it is amusing.
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"I am such an idiot for spending $600 on a next gen gaming console, hi-def movie player..."
Well, some people do consider gambling to be stupid...in fact you are placing a wager that Blu-Ray will survive as a format and paying a premium to be a "first adopter" (player + hi-def tv) -- can't exactly call that "value" when you are ahead of the general population.
The introduction of the 80gb model was simply due to the fact that 60gb hard disks are being phased out in the 2.5" variety.
The manufacturers prefer to switch all models over to the newer platter size, it's actually cheaper to have just one assembly line manufacturing the 1 disk type (80gb per platter, up to 2 platters in a 2.5" model)
As for the way they are fiddling with prices, well it's unfortunate I admit but they are giving you essentially, 20gb more hard disk space and Motorstorm a 60$ US game and keeping the price the same as it was previously, this IS more value, no matter how you slice it.
Some of you bitch and moan about the backwards compatibility changes but they are a company, they need to make a profit, if they can do it in software (and they always planned to!) ultimately they may well get the software emulation to be fairly reliable.
Also, don't quote me on this but I was under the impression the HARDWARE b/compatibility wasn't that great anyhow, it's certainly not all titles of PS2 and PS1 games?
(note: I am not however in the camp that claims B/C is of no relevance, I certainly see why we have it and I definately see the value in it)
>If you can even Fit in that little hunk of shit.
If the first batch of PS2s are anything to compare it to, it'll last at least 3 or 4 times longer than those...
Well actually you're wrong.
Value is NOT a console that breaks down after a couple of months, and needs sending back to Microsoft for a bodge fix-up
Value is NOT selling me a console, where to do anything usefull, I need to buy extras, like a HDD, Play and Charge Kit, Wifi adapter, HD DVD drive..
Value is NOT selling me another GameCube, in a new box with a fancy controller.
There is a BIG difference between a budget console (Wii/360 core) and a Value console (the PS3).
It never ceases to amaze me the mention of the PS3 not having many games. I can understand and sympathize if people said "The PS3 does not have many native games that I want or even like" (IMHO this is my personal view of the Wii and Xbox360 games as well). To answer this properly I will state this "The PS3 has more games available to it than the Xbox, Xbox360, Gamecube and Wii combined". What I did not say in that statement was you can play PS1 and PS2 games as well as PS3 games and the PS2 is still a variable platform with new games still coming out for it. Even so I very much doubt that many people have the cash to pay for the number of native PS3 games that are available now and they cost about the same as the Xbox360 and the Wii games. Taking the above into account I actually can save more money and have a wider choice of games than the other game consoles, so US$600 is cheap IMHO for what this machine can do and so far I have only talked about games.
I don't have a 46" HDTV (the original poster may though) I have a 37" HDTV (576p (PAL), 720p and 1080i) and in the US you can pick one of these up (mayby not PAL) at around US$700 or less if you negotiate (I got my 60GB PS3 for approx US$407). The PS3, Xbox360 and even the Wii still look good on smaller HDTV's, but of course once you get a 46" or bigger (If you can afford it) then only the PS3 and Xbox360 look good, the Wii is ok but you can really pick the difference in graphics.
There ain't no such thing as proprietary standards only proprietary formats. Standards are by definition open.
But why buy early? Because I was mostly a PC gamer with $600 but not $1500 to replace my mobo, processor, video card, and upgrade my RAM to get next-gen graphics on a 20" monitor.
;) I agree the PS3 has the potential to be a great system, whether it fulfils that or not depends on Sony and 3rd party support. Personally I'm waiting until it has fulfilled that potential (and the 360 for that matter, it certainly looks like it has a long way to go). If it takes another year, however, $600 could buy a *lot* more PC hardware than it could when the console launched.
Best argument I've heard yet, very true. I've been considering upgrading my PC and yeah, it would cost quite a lot (I think you'd be hard pressed to spend over $1000 without going SLi or something) compared to any of the consoles out there.
I wasn't trolling in my original post, perhaps just purposefully touching a few nerves
What are the other 2?
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Uhh, can anyone in the Software Industry really promise you that? No really, can anyone?
The fact is, software is buggy. Games come on read-only media. In the old days of gaming, if the game had a bug then that was it. You just worked around it or didn't play the game. And it's not like you could return a buggy game, they simply refuse saying they didn't expressly imply its stability or quality in any way. And the retailers have ridiculous return policies (e.g., "If it is unopened we'll give you another unopened copy")
Some publishers certainly do abuse this system. Most notably, EA and the Tiger Woods fiasco last year. That doesn't mean it's inherently bad.
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Well, if I was going to upgrade then I definitely was going to go the SLI route. I might not have been able to get both video cards at once, but I could set up the system to start with and then buy the card later on. Of course, by the time I could afford the second card then your system is out of date so...it's a whole mess at this point. I think the consoles have finally gotten to the point where they can compete head on with PC's for less cost. At this point I have my PS3 for gaming and my PC setup with Linux for surfing the web and that kind of thing. In the long run, it's cheaper and I have immediate access to next-gen gaming and no more dependency on Windows, which always annoyed me.
I think I did mention in my original post that I have a 46" tv. And yes, you can notice the difference between 480p and 1080p. 720p and 1080p are a bit more subtle, but I'm happy as long as it looks good. Rainbox 6, by the way, is the worst game to have at 1080p (I think it upscales horribly). It's annoying to switch it to 720, though, so I just cope.
It's the Blu-ray drive that causes the PS3 to be so expensive and still sell at a loss. Heres an idea:
1. Replace Blu-ray with DVD-rom
2. Drop price to $350-$400
3. Profit!
Oh wait, that would mean that Sony would have to do something that could be construed as "sensible." My bad.
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I Bought my Ps3 just recently. I'd originally intended to hold off till Metal Gear 4. I realized I have tons of GREAT PS2 games in my library that I still play from time to time. Not having 100% compatability is not an option.
My purchase was not a frantic "OMG I'm gonna loose if i dont buy now", it was more of the thought of having to keep my 7 year old PS2 still hooked up to my TV. Space is a comodity and my Entertainment center is loosing.
The PS3 was the first console to replace my SONY DVD player that I've had since 1998 or so. I'm not one bit disapointed with that choice. It brought new life into my old Dolby DTS stereo reciever. Sound no longer cuts out in intense action scenes.
I am happy with the PS3 as it stands. Sure I wish I got it on the 65nm Press but oh well. It'll keep my VERY warm in the winter. I will admit that I did need to re-engineer my Entertainment center to allow better heat disipation, but that was a minor inconvenience. The Ps3 is seated on Sheet aluminum with chopsticks glued to the bottom to allow better air flow. I imagine Xbox 360 would have required it's own AC unit installed.
Congratualtions! You have a long and healthy career ahead of you writing advertising copy for computers, automobiles and electronics. You might also want to consider opportunities as a public spokesman or in public affairs.