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Effective Use of Technology In the Classroom?

postermmxvicom writes "I remember in college I had one professor who, in addition to being a great teacher, really took advantage of the technology in the classroom to illustrate the concepts for Calculus and Linear Algebra. Well, now I am the teacher. I teach Algebra, AP Calculus, and Physics in high school. This year I have gotten a tablet and a wireless projector. Now I can write on my tablet instead of the board, as well as use other applications. I want to utilize this tech effectively for teaching. Would you please share how you have seen technology effectively used for Math and Physics — either specific software or how that software was used (specific or general)?"

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  1. powerpoint by TOI_0x00 · · Score: 1

    Well powerpoint is the only thing usefull, my teachers ever used.

    1. Re:powerpoint by DigitAl56K · · Score: 5, Funny
      Well powerpoint is the only thing usefull, my teachers ever used.
    2. Re:powerpoint by FieroEtnl · · Score: 5, Insightful

      PowerPoint is very useful if the person using that tool uses it correctly. Unfortunately, most people use it incorrectly and write down every single thing that they're planning on saying on a slide. If you're going to do that, students will catch on and just think that they can get by with printing off the notes and skipping class because listening to the teacher will not help them understand the material any better. The catch is, they won't understand it at all. Active learning helps people learn and remember facts and concepts way better than passive reading or listening. That's why the best way to use PowerPoint is as a guide or outline to what you're going to talk about. It forces people to use more than one sense to take everything in, and if they want notes on everything important from the lecture, they have to write it down themselves and actually comprehend it in the first place.

    3. Re:powerpoint by belmolis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Before even thinking about making a powerpoint presentation, (re)read Edward Tufte's wonderful essay Powerpoint is Evil.

    4. Re:powerpoint by Technician · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well powerpoint is the only thing usefull, my teachers ever used.

      Invest in some old fashioned hardware. Hands-on physics teaches a lot of concepts to those who don't quite grasp concepts published in a book. Examples are a bicycle to teach force/displacement/speed relationships. The classic is standing a bike up and asking if the pedal low to the floor is pushed to the rear of the bike, will the cranking force move the bike foreward or will the gearing cause the bike to move backwards in the direction of the force and why?

      Students that grasp these concepts early on are the ones to understand the conservation of energy and entropy. They will understand why you can't use a high speed motor of say 1 HP to drive a 1 KW generator fast enough to power the motor and have a few hundred watts of power left over. An electrical load on the generator provides a mechanical load to the motor. This is not over unity creating a perpertual motion machine.

      Props such as a hand cranked generator or bicycle driven generator that can be loaded make a serious impression to early students. Cranking 60 watts is work. 300 Watts sustained is very serious work. This leads to an understang of torque/speed/horsepower relationships. Torque or speed is not power. Feeling power generation is better than most any PowerPoint presentation.

      After the mechanical presentations, then go into lecture and detail such as going over an electric bill and figuring the typical days power use and how much work is delivered for a dollar.

      Power economy and the hand cranked PC scale now come into view. Hand cranking your typical home PC or laptop and Monitor are now seen as beyond pratical. Energy conservation to fit the hand cranked energy budget now become a prime design consideration for future engineers instead of how to hand crank existing tech.

      Hand cranking a 2 watt laptop is possible as well as a 60 watt laptop, but the 60 watt laptop isn't pratical as all the time will be spent cranking quite hard.

      You were cheated in your physics class if they didn't do the blowgun/falling ball demo or used air hocky tables to show center of mass of spinning objects and conservation of momentium, elastic and inelastic collisions. In the 1970's we shot a lot of film of this on an air hocky table and took measurements from the photographs to calculate displacement of the objects photographed under a strobe light. The hands on stuff was the best.

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    5. Re:powerpoint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was a joke around the topic of teaching with the aid of Powerpoint. Note the bullet list reply ;)

    6. Re:powerpoint by ThJ · · Score: 0

      Actually, I didn't get that it was a joke either.

    7. Re:powerpoint by Colin+Smith · · Score: 0

      I appreciate your correction of my grammar mistakes "grammatical"

      You are much better than than the rest grammar nazis I've met on slash dot. "of the" and "slashdot".

      You're welcome.
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    8. Re:powerpoint by sdfad1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Also see this powerpoint presentation by Abe Lincoln in 1863 :).

    9. Re:powerpoint by arivanov · · Score: 1

      I have found powerpoint to be a walking stick for the people who suck as teachers.

      You take your assumptions about the audience and you take them with you to the auditorium. If you are wrong even in the slightest the audience ends up being "shocked and awed" or bored stiff. Neither of this is good.

      Further to this even the best projector is merely 1024x768. Some plasma and LCD screens are better, but not by much. All of that is actually worse than a high quality large whiteboard. Further to this, if you work on a whiteboard:

      • You can actually alter your presentation and change it on the fly.
      • You are limited by your writing speed. This is actually good. It decreases the likelihood that you can overload the audience.
      If you want to assist yourself with a diagram display a overhead projector is still better than a powerpoint:
      • It provides higher resolution for diagrams compared to the 1024x768
      • It is much better than powerpoint in providing specific illustrations because it is much easier to use for random addressing.
      If you want to assist yourself with non-diagram materials like photos, short clips, slides, etc, powerpoint again sucks rotten eggz.
      • It is designed for sequential display, not random so bringing up a slide as an illustration ends up in clicking through loads of unrelated slides as well as showing unrelated material from your desktop. This distracts the audience quite a bit and decreases the value of your presentation.
      • Powerpoint dualhead support and especially keeping the second monitor off is rudimentary. As a result even if you have a proper setup to show illustrative slides without distracting the audience, you cannot really use it.

      Add to that the fact that 99% of people writing powerpoint presentations have no clue how to write them and end up brain-raping the user cognition. For example, here is a list of classic powerpoint errors:

      • The slides must not contain the same material as presented and you must not read from the slide in repetition. This is actually scientifically proven to result in a brainfuck. You provide the same input on the audio and video channels to the brain and the result is that it understands less, not more.
      • The handouts must contain a full handout view with notes, proper text, explanations, etc and not a printout of the slides. This is same as above actually. The handout is intended as a reference to be read offline and should contain what your presentation contains.
      Powerpoint, especially used in the classic idiot way, belongs to the world of marketing and sales where the brainfuck is part of the experience. It belongs in places where you have to deliver very little material while making sure that it sticks in the brain of the victim. It also belongs in a place where you are not in control of the equipment and the same material has to be presented again and again on different equipment in different locations.

      Neither of these are descriptive of a classroom environment. Powerpoint does not belong in a classroom.

      As far as classroom tech a good very large LCD (or plasma) screen hooked up to a dual head system to show slides selected on the control monitor is probably the only tool worth having. It is simply the modern replacement for a slide projector which has always been one of the best and probably most underused classroom tools (granted a good one with selection of slides by number and less than 10s for slide load used to cost a fortune).

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    10. Re:powerpoint by sdfad1 · · Score: 1

      "In the 1970's we shot a lot of film of this on an air hocky table and took measurements from the photographs to calculate displacement of the objects photographed under a strobe light."

      And technology can add to that today. While we have to use technology with our eyes wide open, there's no reason why we cannot be exponentially smarter because of Moore's law. Just as an example, Alan Kay said something like "a different context is worth 80 IQ points" when he talked about very young children intuitively doing calculus (in a quantitative manner too) using the Squeak system. There's video demos and such on the Squeakland website. Additionally, I've found the chatter on the mailing list to be particularly interesting.

    11. Re:powerpoint by Technician · · Score: 1

      While we have to use technology with our eyes wide open, there's no reason why we cannot be exponentially smarter because of Moore's law. Just as an example, Alan Kay said something like "a different context is worth 80 IQ points" when he talked about very young children intuitively doing calculus (in a quantitative manner too) using the Squeak system.

      What got me started understanding some of the math was directly related to that air table. The math class did a section on vectors. In physics doing the conservation of energy in elastic collisions of round pucks started to make a lot of sense when the pucks didn't strike head-on, but contained momentum in vector angles. Measuring how much, what direction and energy of each movement was an eye-opener to vector math.

      That beat anything I learned in a textbook in school for making a point.
      Understanding the concept and math lead to predicting energies of particles in a collision. This was very useful. You are entirely right in stating that better tools help learning. Classes without the tools are dull, dry and often difficult to grasp. I pitty the powerpoint physics class students.

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    12. Re:powerpoint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also pick up the full 32-page version from his website or from Amazon. It's absolutely worth the 7 bucks he charges for it.

    13. Re:powerpoint by ouder · · Score: 1

      If you are using PowerPoint with your tablet then I suggest that you leave lots of blank space on each slide. This leaves you room to use the tablet to draw live illustrations on the slides. It sounds like you have blown your tech budget for a while, but I suggest a document camera as your next acquisition. It has a lot of potential uses, but one of my favorites is to give in-class problems and then collect up the papers. You can put them on the doc camera and go through several of them with the class. You can do demos on the projector and illustrate calculator use. Most of all, don't let the neo-Ludites discourage you from trying new methods. Remember that there was a lot of controversy about putting blackboards in classrooms at one time. There was even opposition to putting textbooks in the hands of students.

    14. Re:powerpoint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed! I also suggest you trial software by Articulate (www.articulate.com)

      Their lineup of programs make powerpoint slightly more attractive and usable. They offer alternative approaches to navigating slides - but it doesn't perform in "full" screen like PPT does. It does offer is the ability for you to publish your presentations to the Internet with embedded audio, video and custom quizzes/interactions.

    15. Re:powerpoint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> Consult a dictionary for the correct spelling of 'useful'

      Why would he when you provide it for him in the same sentence! You have to make these kids have the will to learn themselves, not just hand them all the answers.

      Also, you should have quoted his incorrect spelling.

    16. Re:powerpoint by mapleneckblues · · Score: 1

      Totally agreed. I really find learning from professors who use powerpoint slides to explain everything really boring. On the flip side, I had a professor last semester who would have us read papers beforehand in class and come to class with only a few pre-fabricated slides. The rest of the slides would be empty and he would stimulate discussion and ask questions and get points from the class and create slides on the fly in the class. Now THAT was a really great experience. Powerpoint used in any other way is insanely sleep inducing.

    17. Re:powerpoint by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

      Well powerpoint is the only thing usefull, my teachers ever used. Mod parent +1 (Unintentionally Insightful)?

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  2. In my honest opinion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I would rather be taught with less technology when math is concerned.
    I just feel that the blackboard is a much more fluid and natural medium to perform calculations. Also, I've seen those ELMO contraptions be a severe distraction, either because of having to align lighting or because you can see the teacher's hand up close. I've heard kids deride one of my teacher's hand because she was old.

    1. Re:In my honest opinion by wolverine1999 · · Score: 1

      good point - mod parent up please!

    2. Re:In my honest opinion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Computers should stay out of math education except for the highest level college math courses (like non-linear dynamics and certain simulations for PDEs). All that these computers and calculators do is teach the student to depend on the technology more than the mathematical fundamentals. As far as physics, the most powerful calculator anyone should ever need should be a TI-36. And even that should be needed only occasionally. I studied physics in college and had a HP-48 and a TI-36. The HP-48 gathered dust except in the rare occasions I used it to invert a matrix.

  3. Here's what you do: by fbartho · · Score: 1

    Take your classes out into the world with those devices, project and draw on the side of your school building. Sketching out the equipment for your physics tests: the seesaws on the playground greased down with lard for example. Or the roller coaster, and a slice of pie on to be *dropped* at the loop. Use real world objects and situations that people can understand, instead of a perfectly spherical spring falling from the sky with a monkey climbing a rope on a pulley hooked to a parachute (unless of course you can sketch that, and then make it happen, because that's fair too.

    Unless... you didn't get a day-bright battery powered wireless projector and tablet? Then I don't know, you're screwed, you should mail the devices to me, I'll *hold* them for you till you get back from jail for embezzling or misappropriating resources from the government.

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    1. Re:Here's what you do: by megaditto · · Score: 1

      I want some of that stuff you are smoking.

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  4. dangling paren! by fbartho · · Score: 1

    - then make it happen, because that's fair too.
    + then make it happen, because that's fair too).

    sorry.

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  5. MIT has a cool device by fmobus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is a interative screen-whiteboard with real-world physics. It's kinda hard to describe without a movie.

    1. Re:MIT has a cool device by AGC(AW) · · Score: 1

      We had the same thing down in our weather office in Florida when I was in the Navy. We'd use it for training and briefings. It was really effective when we would give hurricane briefings to reps from other commands.

    2. Re:MIT has a cool device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      have a look at echalk: http://www.e-kreide.de/

  6. Clickers by cuantar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The physics department at my university has started using "clickers." They are small handheld devices resembling calculators that students can use to wirelessly answer multiple-choice questions an instructor poses via e.g. a slide on a presentation. After everyone answers the question and the timer ticks down to zero, the instructor can display a histogram of counts/answer.

    Individual devices are tied to students in that only one id number is allowed per device, so these are also useful for taking attendence in large classes. Students enter their id upon connecting to the instructor's master node at the beginning of the class. Their utility for teaching depends largely on the questions the instructor asks, of course. If two answers receive similar amounts of support from students, individuals could be called on to explain their reasoning, helping the instructor to highlight where their weaknesses in understanding lie.

    The devices are sort of a mixed blessing. I found that the best problems for them were those with two very similar answers that differed only conceptually, rather than mathematically.

    Here's a link to one kind of clicker that's being used this semester (XP software via Parallels on OS X :) http://telr.osu.edu/clickers/ (I am not affiliated with OSU at this time)

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    1. Re:Clickers by djupedal · · Score: 1

      "...so these are also useful for taking attendence in large classes."

      "Ow can you 'aveny pudd'n, if you don' eat your MEAT??"

      May I also suggest attendance in another semester of basic English, if you really want that physics degree to mean anything :)

    2. Re:Clickers by feyhunde · · Score: 1
      I, too, went to OSU physics and saw this being used well, especially in the engineering classes and the basic modern physics classes (with 200 and 50 students approx).

      I got a 580 on my Verbal GRE and I was on the extreme end of physics students. They not do good in English.

      It's really useful for speed of grading and for concept testing. Quick feedback for knowing that the class didn't understand the concept of, say, changing frames of reference. It's great because a professor can get everyone involved and not just the ten or so hyper kids with their hands and passions raised about it. It's great to ensure a good swath of questions get answered.

      Negative uses in the program include an attempt to do computerized homework for the massive physics for engineers class. For instance, one might get 10 problems with the variables changed for each user. The program had a set number of chances and a fudge factor of 5% for minor math errors. Except of course most minor math errors are more like 50% off (divide instead of multiple, or add then multiple or multiple then add). An Error that would be worth 1 point off gets you ten because of that error. That error might also be very common...

      Those who went there remember the excel sheets and the Macro. Different persons would have different answers. Argue to death, etc. Eventually one person would get it right and it would report it to the keeper of the excel sheet who'd enter the correct formula. Most people would eventually use the sheet for at least one answer. The rampant cheating the computer homework inspired made them go back to having a TA paid 10 bucks an hour to grade it (far cheaper and easier to spot 5 homeworks turned in at the same time with the same errors).

      A final positive use was the ability to do 3d and 4d moving graphs.

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    3. Re:Clickers by djupedal · · Score: 1

      "A final positive use was the ability to do 3d and 4d moving graphs."

      So if I can explain the 'arrow of time' to 5th graders, so that they can go home and explain it to their filipana nannies...I'm in?

    4. Re:Clickers by Entropius · · Score: 1

      I've often wondered about the mean GRE scores of physics grads. I'm at the UA and got a 790 verbal, which is apparently unusual. (But probably half of my class got an 800 math along with me.)

    5. Re:Clickers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Typos, my friend, typos! Give the guy a break.

  7. HIGH SCHOOL? by scribblej · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If my experience in High School still applies (and maybe it doesn't; it was a long time ago) you're going to turn out the lights to use that fancy gizno and half the class is going straight to sleep, the other half is going to be passing notes and shooting spitwads and paper airplanes around.

    I suggest you compliment the technology there with a pair of night-vision goggles or something.

    1. Re:HIGH SCHOOL? by urinetrouble · · Score: 1

      Well, you could keep their attention with a high-presence speaker/headset mic system that booms your voice newly omnipresent voice whenever time comes for the lights to die down and the projector to turn on. That'd be pretty funny if you surprised kids with that, especially if one of them crapped themselves or something. It'd be funnier if you fucked up, though. Just don't fuck up. And I guess this only works the first time. I know I've seen this idea done before in news or something... In either case, as a just-barely-graduated person straight out of high school, I can safely say that I was one of those sleepy peoples, and I spent a lot of my time with my head down not really paying attention to class and instead thinking about shit like this. haha.

    2. Re:HIGH SCHOOL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would think that the "fancy gizno" would give the advantage over using a blackboard because a teacher can face the students instead of having a back to them. With new technology, projectors don't need as many lights out because of the high illumination. I don't know what's better, spitwads in the back or spitwads in the face. At least the tablet can be used as a shield.

    3. Re:HIGH SCHOOL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't bother. The goggles do nothing.

    4. Re:HIGH SCHOOL? by dana340 · · Score: 1
      I actually wrote my thesis on effective use of technology in the mathematics classroom. I was unable to show a statistical difference between my groups of students. Nevertheless, i still am a strong supporter for Technology in the classroom.

      Fist, in regards to projectors, if you have one with enough power (recommend around 2000 lumens) you can use your projector in a normal classroom with lights on, and you can still see the screen. You can scale back on the projector if the lighting in the room is designed around having a projector, however this involves rewiring light fixtures, and unless the school board is willing to renovate for your teaching style, it's not easy to do.

      besides, kids will try to do the same antics whenever you're not looking, not just when the lights are out. Thats my experience as a student as well as a teacher! Real teachers know how to deal with these things.:-)

      Now one notion I've toyed with is using a VNC box hooked up the the projector, and having a couple of tablets in the classroom to get students involved, it may be worth a shot. obliviously, this is costly, and the students probably won't have the same respect for the computers you had to go out and buy as you or your colleagues would.

      For software, in math check out Geometers Skeptchpad! this is great for any topic involving geometry and modeling. Well worth the price. Also check out Math Type (plugin for MSWord). Might not be tablet ready yet but is much much easier to use than the Microsoft Equation editor. I used it to make the formulas on all my test. Plenty has already been said about power point, but you can really step up the level of what you're doing if you get into using Flash or any other animation based software. You can show models in fluid motion, or create something interactive, which you should be able to pull right into power point. Lastly, this may not be as useful as the other ones that you posted, but i created an online graphing calculator tutorial back when i was in school. Here, it nay be useful. http://oit.southernct.edu/acc/miscellanea/ti83demo /ti83/index.html

      Hope i was able to help!

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    5. Re:HIGH SCHOOL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember that class. Me and my friends would eat enhanced brownies during it.

    6. Re:HIGH SCHOOL? by chlopezl · · Score: 1

      Can I have a copy of that thesis you talk about? I work in an academic institution and I'm in charge of putting to work new technologies in the classroom.
      write me at chlopezl@gmail.com.

  8. cart before the horse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think a major mistake teachers make is to discover new teaching technology and then invent a curriculum that uses them. This gets the process entirely backwards. If you try this, you're going to sacrifice learning in the interest of playing with your new toys.

    You've got these new tools. That's great. Now forget about them. Design your lessons as you would. As you go, you're going to realize ... "this would work better if I can use my new gizmo." This is where the technology comes in. First find the problem, then find the solution.

    1. Re:cart before the horse by PhotoGuy · · Score: 1

      I agree wholeheartedly. Programmers and tech types often see a cool technology, and try to figure out "how can I use this?" While there are cases where this works (R&D labs, etc.), in the case where you have a specific problem/job (teaching), then figure out how to teach best, using tools where appropriate.

      "If all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail

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    2. Re:cart before the horse by Andabata · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately for this view, technology serves not only to improve what you do, but to change what you do. This advice is like saying "use your cell phone like you'd use a fixed phone". But cell phones are not traditional phones without a wire. They are "person-direct" phones instead of "location-direct" phones. You call the person, not the phone. People cannot simply evade contact by saying that they are not near a phone.

      Technology changes things. It's likely that you will change your lectures by considering how to use your new tools - and that's a good thing. The sensible part of the previous advice is that you don't have to use the tools! Use them when they improve things. But use them to inspire you to innovate, not just as a better fixed phone.

    3. Re:cart before the horse by sanman2 · · Score: 1

      One of the biggest distractions I had in school, was in trying to copy everything the teacher was writing on the blackboard, instead of listening directly to what they had to say.

      With these modern electronic whiteboards, which can generate printout copies for the students instead of them scribbling furiously rather than listening to the teacher, there will be a great barrier removed from learning.

    4. Re:cart before the horse by profzoom · · Score: 1

      I'm a math grad student, so one of my duties is to teach precalc and calc to the non-majors. My university, within the last few years, has equipped many of our classrooms with a PC/DVD/document cam combo, all hooked up to a projector. Despite the first day, when I show the students where they can find the syllabus online, I keep it turned off. Math is for writing on the board, imho.

    5. Re:cart before the horse by fermion · · Score: 1
      While it is true that technology can be overused, there is really little use in complaining that new technology is overused. The only way to learn something is to use it, and when one is unsure of the use, the ideal use is often unclear. Take, for example, the car. When the car was new, everyone did everything with it. Some of it stuck, other things, like the drive in movie, which was great, did not. When driving a car is a novelty, we do everything in the car, even have sex. But as the novelty wears off, we often find a house to be more conformable.

      Same thing with new technology. The only way to see where it fits, is to use it. It is better at teaching functions. It is better at graphing. What additional knowledge does the student gain. What is lost. At the end of the day, the bottom line is the bottom line. Is the benefit of the technology worth the costs.

      The greatest piece of technology, the pencil, is a prime example of use and misuse. Over 50% of the time it is a distraction. The students is drawing body parts, throwing it at other students, using it as an excuse to wander around the classroom. But it is still useful enough that we require every student to have and learn to use this technology. The pencil is cheap enough so that even if it often misused, it does not matter. The same is not true for a computer.

      So this is what I say. If one has a tool, use the hell out of it. If one finds there is an overall reduction in learning, cut back and find the sweet spots, if any. The kids will benefit because they are being exposed to the technology being used in a more or less productive manner. For instance, isn't is good that they can learn to use a computer to solve problems other than who to go out with?

      At the end of the day, my experience is that new tools are ignored not because they not beneficial, but because people do not know how to use them. And while not knowing how to use a tool is a very good reason not to use the tool, it seems that if the tool might be useful, a professional might find it in his or her best interest to learn to use the tool. Otherwise we would still be stuck with sticks and slates.

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    6. Re:cart before the horse by mcmaddog · · Score: 1

      While I agree with you in part, most studies show that you retain the knowledge better if you write notes for yourself because it helps implant what is being said. I have a problem with teachers that have their notes pre-written on overhead sheets or now powerpoint presentations and don't pace them to allow students to write notes and think about what is being said.

  9. In-class polling by dev_alac · · Score: 1

    One of the few things that I've seen that's been a good use of technology is using those in-class polling kits. You basically ask a multiple-choice question on a concept, then the class is polled. Once everyone answers, you can see the distribution and know what people were thinking. Can be useful to know if you're not getting an important concept over on the students and you know during class. The drawback is that it's limited to multiple-choice type answers, but you can require them to do a bit of work on their own.

    1. Re:In-class polling by tftp · · Score: 2, Insightful
      What makes the teacher think that one minute after he stopped talking everyone has captured and memorized everything? I was never subjected to such quick polls, and if I were I'd say "what do you want from me, I haven't had a chance to review my notes and to reflect upon what I just heard."

      Understanding of a lecture is not equal to memorizing it, and even the understanding is not guaranteed to occur instantly; some things you just circle and write on the margins "Where did this come from? Check with the book." instead of interrupting the lecture for everyone else. The teacher won't disappear in any case, so you can always ask separately, but in my experience it is plain impossible that nobody else in your class knows the answer to whatever confuses me.

    2. Re:In-class polling by gomiam · · Score: 1
      Understanding of a lecture is not equal to memorizing it, and even the understanding is not guaranteed to occur instantly; some things you just circle and write on the margins "Where did this come from? Check with the book." instead of interrupting the lecture for everyone else. The teacher won't disappear in any case, so you can always ask separately, but in my experience it is plain impossible that nobody else in your class knows the answer to whatever confuses me.

      Well, my POV differs, perhaps because I studied in a different environment. When there are 60+ students in a class, if one of them asks a question it is fairly certain there are at least another five who have the same doubt. So it will be more efficient to answer the question once while the subject is still fresh on the students' (and the teacher's) minds.

  10. Sounds like a good starting point. by khasim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, what is the problem with a blackboard? Be precise.

    Then, look at whether the technology will solve that/those problem(s). We're talking math here. Is the technology going to allow you to better explain some difficult concepts or will the focus end up being on the technology?

    Blackboards work because blackboards always work. They don't need to be rebooted.

    1. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by RealityMogul · · Score: 4, Interesting

      He could save his time and the students by prepping his examples, or whatever else he'd write on the board, before school. Then just pull up a saved slide so he doesn't have to spend all that time rewriting it for each class period. Consistent fonts would also mean better readability by the students. Color coding or other text attributes could also contribute to that. Animations would be cool, and maybe explain things better, but I don't think he'd be getting that far into it.

    2. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's all pointless. Study pedagogy (or at least sit through a few boring meetings) before giving advice. Slide shows are just about the best way to get students to not engage the material.

      Technology has a very limited role in high school physics and mathematics pedagogy. As it happens, a quick blackboard pace is just slow enough to let students critically evaluate the material (with respect to note taking importance), formulate questions, and try to anticipate answers. Go any faster, and all you get is a class full of people fervently copying the slideshow verbatim.

      Diagrams/animations can be an exception. If a diagram can be convincingly explained once drawn, and it is complex enough to make using Photoshop or whatever worth the effort, by all means, use a predrawn diagram. Most "interesting" diagrams fail the first condition. Animations, of course, make the first condition moot. But they are rarely worth the effort.

    3. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by tftp · · Score: 1
      his examples, or whatever else he'd write on the board

      He'd write the question first, then some approaches to solution, and then maybe a solution, step by step, explaining everything as he writes it. If you dump a screenful of formulas onto students they'd be just confused. Even when mathematicians and physicists write in magazines for their peers they take care to explain everything that is not obvious (and by that I mean "obvious to professionals working in the field for years".)

      As I recall my school years I do not really believe that technology would have improved the teaching of theoretical matters. In many engineering disciplines the "physical meaning" of equations exists only as the input and the output, but everything in between is pure math and abstract operators, of which you just know what they do.

      And another note here - "saving time" is not what the teacher is for. If he were to save time, he'd just read a textbook aloud, while students are following him in their own copies of the same textbook. The teacher explains things that the book really means but doesn't say. Some people do not require a teacher, they are fine with a book. But most people study better when a teacher explains and they write it down because that involves a different, active kind of memory. Myself, I remember writing comments on "why and how" where the textbook just said "applying obvious transformations to (3.171) and solving for $foo we get (3.172) which is..." - but the teacher actually went through the motions of reduction and solution so that we also could do it. This way if you studied how a two-port adding circuit works you can design an any-number-of-ports adding circuit, for a simple example. And when someone asks "what will happen if the values of R1, R7 and R13 drift due to the temperature rise from 25C to 125C" you know what to do, and not just stand there like a proverbial deer staring into oncoming headlights.

    4. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by aadvancedGIR · · Score: 1

      No, you're wrong, you can sometimes be out of chalk.

      Blackboards work because several people can easily interact on it at the same time and its interface is simple enough for 99.9% of the potential users.
      High tech works only in a one-to-many lecture when the lecturer had spent some time learning how to properly use the device and a lot of time preparing visual material that takes advantage of it.

    5. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by Nyh · · Score: 1

      So, what is the problem with a blackboard? Be precise. Well, a blackboard has so much room on it I can go back some steps, even to the start of a long derivation, without flipping through multiple pages on my beamer. I think it must be very confusing for student having all the information available on the same blackboard. I can just point at the blackboard and say: "You see why we did that back there? Although it seemed a bit strange there, now it has helped us big time to get the result!". This way of using the blackboard might be so clear for students they even may start to understand what you are trying to teach them.

      Nyh
    6. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by mspohr · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of my second year calculus class at university. The professor would start at the left side of the blackboard writing formulas and talking to the blackboard. As he moved to the right, he held the eraser in his left hand and would erase the formulas on the left. You only had the space between his two hands to read the formulas. Of course his body was in the middle which made it more challenging.

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    7. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by gomiam · · Score: 2, Insightful
      That's all pointless. Study pedagogy (or at least sit through a few boring meetings) before giving advice. Slide shows are just about the best way to get students to not engage the material.

      Methinks you are being subjected to badly designed slideshows then. And yes, I have seen good and bad presentations. A good presentation will let you quickly grasp the concepts in each slide and listen to the explanation.

      Technology has a very limited role in high school physics and mathematics pedagogy. As it happens, a quick blackboard pace is just slow enough to let students critically evaluate the material (with respect to note taking importance), formulate questions, and try to anticipate answers. Go any faster, and all you get is a class full of people fervently copying the slideshow verbatim.

      Because you would never provide copies of the slideshow to your students with space for taking notes. Actually, I didn't even need that when I was a student: I got the slides, numbered each and wrote my comments on paper with slide references. A quick blackboard pace may mean having something like this: one person to copy what is written on the blackboard, another to copy what is being said, and a third person for Q&A (yes, the teacher wrote and spoke so fast that they had to cooperate to get the whole class written).

      All this being said, I agree that hands-on material benefits from a slower pace. Not because the students will ask questions (they are too reluctant too look "stupid") but because you can ask questions to the students about how to proceed from the current point.

      If a diagram can be convincingly explained once drawn, and it is complex enough to make using Photoshop or whatever worth the effort, by all means, use a predrawn diagram.

      If you need a diagram (I wouldn't use Photoshop for that kind of work, but that's another debate altogether), you will benefit from not having to draw it once and again, if only because you are less likely to omit something.

    8. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      So, what is the problem with a blackboard? Be precise.
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    9. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're using a display device for something that needs to be literally performed.
      That's a bad idea. When demonstrating a technique for the class to learn, you have to perform the act.
      Students need to see how a solution is carried out actually, not just to see a solution. They are there to learn the techniques, not the results. _Displaying_ a solution is fine when all people are familiar with the techniques involved, and just need a quick glance about how you've applied them to this particular problem.
      Displaying a solution when people are unfamiliar with the techniques is completly confusing.

      The time spend rewriting the same things again and again is the time spent teaching.

      "A result is nice, but a new way to look at things is great."

    10. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by teh+kurisu · · Score: 1

      Well, a blackboard has so much room on it...

      Wow, lucky you. I remember some of my university maths lectures where a problem used front and back of both boards, then went back to the first side of the first board and erased the start of the problem to make more room. There were silent screams every time the board was rolled or when the duster was brought out, from the people that saw what they were still copying out disappear from view.

      It was all but impossible to copy everything out, because of the speed it was written on the board, the delay between things being written and the lecturer getting out of the way (different depending on what side of the lecture theatre you were sitting on), and because you were actually trying to understand it at the same time as writing it down. Not getting it down meant you had no notes. We almost prayed for the lecturer to be over-zealous and break the chalk while writing which, apart from being funny, gave you a little break, and meant that the lecturer would slow down a bit because the size of the chalk was now less than optimal for fast writing.

      Equipment for photographing the blackboard would have been nice, as we would have been able to take in what we were copying down, but there's the inevitable problem that if you know the notes are available online, there's the temptation not to turn up to the lecture.

    11. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by DeadChobi · · Score: 1

      If you really want to talk pedagogy, presentations are usually the worst way to teach students to think critically and absorb the information, while hands-on work which pulls in individual traits and interests is the best way. The critical question is whether technology can be used to aid the latter, which it can. Consider that it makes everything faster, and that it's possible to visually model a number of extremely complex phenomenon that are damn near impossible to demonstrate in class and that a simple diagram is going to be less effective and visually poignant for. If I could only use technology for one thing, it would probably just be for animating diagrams.

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    12. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nowadays it's whiteboards. Needs no water for cleaning, better for the environment
      And much less racist.
    13. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      The best technology I've seen for education is not the stuff that's used in the classroom. It seems that, thousands of years later, a single teacher with the equivalent of a stick drawing in the dirt is just as powerful as it was for Socrates. Much of the technology that teachers tend to use, in fact, is style over substance IMHO. It has something to do with the sad state of Education Departments in US schools, and perhaps the weakness of Education as a discipline. That, plus the fact that few professors ever learned how to use the Socratic Method properly.

      However, technology can be a big help after class is over. Online tools like Blackboard (there are better ones) can provide a connection to the material and other learners that can be very useful for students who don't live in an area of concentrated study like a college campus. Portable digital audio recorders can help a student that is trying to take a heavier class load than she should. Tablet PCs can be terrific tools for notetaking, allowing high-speed typing (my penmanship is terrible), diagrammatic input and even audio recording.

      My favorite bit of technology for learning, though, is a good Light and Sound Machine. Regular use of these devices has helped me increase my information uptake and more important, to get to sleep and to sleep well after hours of hard study. It's been some years since I've been a student in a classroom, but I've got to absorb almost as much information today as when I was a sophomore. Because I no longer have a 20 year old brain, I need all the tech-assist I can get.

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    14. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by joto · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of my second year calculus class at university. The professor would start at the left side of the blackboard writing formulas and talking to the blackboard. As he moved to the right, he held the eraser in his left hand and would erase the formulas on the left. You only had the space between his two hands to read the formulas. Of course his body was in the middle which made it more challenging.

      Sounds like you need some girls in your class. I was always annoyed by the girls who would write down everything the teacher would write on the blackboard. Only, instead of just writing it down, they used multiple colors, edited it for sanity, added extra illustrations, and probably added an index and a table of contents while they were at it. They would always yell whenever the teacher grabbed the eraser and moved towards the blackboard.

      Anyway, with such a teacher as you describe here, they would probably be a necessity.

    15. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by ejtttje · · Score: 1

      As it happens, a quick blackboard pace is just slow enough to let students critically evaluate the material (with respect to note taking importance), formulate questions, and try to anticipate answers. Go any faster, and all you get is a class full of people fervently copying the slideshow verbatim.
      That's funny, when I'm in a lecture where they've printed the notes from the slides, I can actually pay attention to the lecture instead of fervently copy notes from the blackboard. I agree that slides can let you go too fast, but blackboards run the risk of getting lazy and not writing important points down. You can always go too fast if that's your style, blackboards don't prevent it.

      Some of the advantages of electronic slides:
      * students who are out sick can get a copy of the "full" notes instead of just another student's filtered interpretation.
      * easier for teacher to make improvements that stick the next year
      * sharper, more precise graphics/figures/diagrams (not all teachers can draw very well, of course that's true digitally too, but they can get graphics from elsewhere...)

      Disadvantages:
      * can facilitate presentation laziness -- reading from slides, not being interactive/adapting to each class's strengths and weaknesses
    16. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by sxeraverx · · Score: 1

      "He could save his time and the students by prepping his examples, or whatever else he'd write on the board, before school. Then just pull up a saved slide so he doesn't have to spend all that time rewriting it for each class period."

      Actually, I feel that would be a bad idea. It's much much harder to take notes when the teacher/professor is flying through a powerpoint. Writing things down at the same pace as students makes note taking much easier (for those who do it).
      As for color coding, there ARE different colors of chalk. You know that, right?
      And animations are annoying at best, disruptive at worst.

      The only benefit you mentioned is consistent fonts for better readability, but it's a hassle to input characters for integral (almost impossible if you want limits of integration), fractions (or anything separated by a bar, like dy/dx) (and especially fractions with more than one level), the symbols for a partial derivative and multiple integrals, Greek characters, square roots, n'th roots, etc. Yes, I know there's OpenOffice.org Math for that. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying that the time spent on it is not worth it just to teach a class.

      The only thing worse than using a powerpoint that I can think of would be to hand-write your powerpoints. I have a professor this semester who does that, and it's just nuts.

    17. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by michrech · · Score: 1
      I can tell you one problem they'd solve. CHALK DUST. I hate chalk dust. You should see some of the teaching consoles at my place of employment. What makes it worse is that 'housekeeping' doesn't clean them. It just builds and builds until I get pissed off enough to go down and do it myself.

      Hell, whiteboards would be FAR better than a blackboard. So long as they are cleaned properly, they will last a good long time. Of course, that would mean not using the same harsh cleaners on the whiteboard as they use on the desks, and all of the cleaning people I've run into couldn't give two flying mouse turds what they use. It doesn't help that their budgets always get cut, which makes them buy ONE type of cleaner, and use that for everything they have to do.

      Then, look at whether the technology will solve that/those problem(s). We're talking math here. Is the technology going to allow you to better explain some difficult concepts or will the focus end up being on the technology
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    18. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by mahlerfan999 · · Score: 1

      So, what is the problem with a blackboard? Be precise.

      For me (I am a Physics Instructor) the problem with the board is that my handwriting is awful! Not only that but having a powerpoint keeps me on track/schedule for what I had planned for the lecture. And writing the powerpoint usually forces me to evaluate the material in a much more detailed way than I would have if I had just written notes down in my notebook.

      Is the technology going to allow you to better explain some difficult concepts or will the focus end up being on the technology?

      The technology is just a tool, the students are not distracted by my powerpoints because I'm not filling them with flashy videos. Good use of animations is to point by point single out sections of graphs and display equations that match each other. It can be naturally more effective to draw the attention of students to the right place, and works better than what can be done on the board. However, I still use the board (that is I use both) despite my handwriting because both techniques compliment each other well.

    19. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by Gaerek · · Score: 0

      I don't think anyone is saying that powerpoint cannot be used. It certainly has it's advantages over more traditional methods. You say a blackboard is lazy? I say powerpoint is lazy. Tools and technology like powerpoint need to be used carefully. If you plan to use technology, you really need to ask yourself, "Is this going to help the students learn better? Or is it simply a time saver for me?" I graduated HS in 1999, and I never had a teacher use powerpoint. But, when I got to college, I've had several. I personally hated the powerpoint teachers. They ALL seemed lazy to me. These were the same teachers that let the textbooks do the teaching for them. Every single one of them summarized the textbook with their presentations, and rarely elaborated beyond what the textbook said. The lectures were dull and uninspired. And if the computer blue screened, or there was a technical malfunction, guess what, the instructor was at a loss as to what to do. Typically, the class sat idle while the problem was troubleshooted.

      Powerpoint, even though it seems like a useful tool in theory, I think just breeds laziness. My take on this is, if you insist on using powerpoint to teach, then do not use it on the computer. Print it out as a handout. This allows the instructor to be consistent semester after semester, as well as being very easy to update the information. And it gives the student a solid base for notes. Only highlight key points on the presentation. Most of the teaching should come from the instructor, NOT the presentation. So I suppose we agree in a few areas.

      Having said that, I've seen powerpoint used very well also. I work for the government, and 90% of our recurrent training is computer based. Almost all of this computer based training is done with slides, typically using a pdf, or a third party software package, such as netg. Since this is learn on your own kind of stuff, they have to put all the information you need in the slides. Sure, it's a lot like reading a textbook, but the training works well without the need for an instructor.

      As I said, be careful with what technology you bring to the classroom. Used well, it can really enhance the learning experience. Used poorly, it can really hinder learning. As far as using a tablet and I would guess a projector instead of a blackboard, well, my advice is design your curriculum without the technology in mind. And while putting it together, see if you can see an area where technology will enhance it. Another thing you could do is using the aformentioned curriculum, tell your students you are going to try using this tablet for a week or two. And then get their opinion on it. If the like it, and they say it helps, then you might be on to something. If they say it is no help, or it's distracting, or something like that, then scrap it. It really sounds like you have some toys and you want to play with them. If that's the case, leave them at home.

    20. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by mahlerfan999 · · Score: 1

      If you really want to talk pedagogy, presentations are usually the worst way to teach students to think critically and absorb the information, while hands-on work which pulls in individual traits and interests is the best way.

      I personally think that there is something to be gained from both styles of teaching, which is why I do both. On one level they need to simply see the information, and see several worked examples, on another they need to actually solve problems to get a feel for the mathematical framework. I teach an 80 minute class on General Physics. So what I do is use the first fifty minutes for lecture, with class participation (I use the socratic method, and occassionally have a student solve a problem on the board with the help of their fellow students); and then the last thirty minutes I have the students work on a challenging problem in groups, and I walk around and assist them.

    21. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by freefal67 · · Score: 1

      I think students tend to take far less away from having slides done out ahead of time. Seeing each step prevents students from simply reading ahead, getting a cursory understanding and then fading out.
      Seeing a teacher work out each step on the blackboard has always seemed far more engaging and instructive to me.

    22. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by jonbritton · · Score: 1

      So, what is the problem with a blackboard? Be precise.

      I can't say I have any problem with a blackboard, though the ability to export it to a file and email it to everyone would be nice. If this is a class that doesn't work off rote memorization, having the students copy five boards worth of information doesn't seem an efficient use of time. For history class, make them write it out themselves. For linear algebra problems, just let them have a copy of your process so they can check their work later.

      Otherwise, I think your point is the most important: don't turn math class into a demo of your new gadgets.

    23. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by curri · · Score: 1

      You know, you can get slides from Latex, and it actually makes math relatively easy. I've used it when I taught Theory of Computation, and it allows me to produce readable formulas (my handwriting sucks, much more on the board, and trying to do greek letters is even worse :).

    24. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by geobeck · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I always found that a combination worked best.

      • Notes should be prepared beforehand and given as handouts. Nothing is a more tedious time waster than having students copy text and formulae from the board/screen. Long notes should be organized in sections with numbered headings for easy reference.
      • Worked examples are best written out as they are explained. A presentation that reveals each step as you explain it is almost as good, and can actually be better if the expressions are very complex. Highlight the changes in each step.
      • Complex diagrams should be prepared beforehand. The presentation should be prepared in such a way that important parts can be highlighted.
      • Simple diagrams should be drawn as they are presented.
      • If you find that your presentations consist mainly of titles and bullet points, delete them and start over. The information in such slides is best handed out as notes. Save your presentations for visual material such as diagrams and worked examples.

      I find that this method makes the students do enough of the work to keep them focused. Sufficient preparation leaves no time during which you are writing and they are sitting there, bored. Handing out long notes makes sure the slow writers aren't left behind.

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    25. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by b4upoo · · Score: 1

      There is a distro called Scientific Linux that is pretty darned smooth. The lads over at CERN have cooked it up. Its descent is from Red Hat and it is all about math and science. Any classroom should be thrilled with this free software and every student could have a copy for their own computer as well.

    26. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by twistedcubic · · Score: 1


      So, what is the problem with a blackboard? Be precise.

      The chalk is all over my hands when I finish, which sucks (latex gloves suck took). Erasing the board wastes minutes every day. Sometimes I inhale chalk and sneeze. Sometimes writing makes a screeching noise which drives everyone nuts. Once I slammed my finger with a sliding blackboard, and blood was gushing from my thumb, so I had to waste time running to the bathroom. Some of the students complain when I don't erase the board completely clean. etc...

    27. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by DeadChobi · · Score: 1

      That's the most effective method I've seen. I had an instructor in a community college do that for his physics sections.

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    28. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by Iftekhar25 · · Score: 1

      I've never been a fan of having large powerpoint slides replete with information being put in the middle of an explanation as an example or anything else.

      The reason is simple: information overload. Most presenters make this mistake: the focus of the presentation is to listen to what the presenter is choosing to focus on as he progresses to explain the concept by moving from one logical point to another.

      If you bombard the audience with a large amount of information in one go, they get distracted and spend more time reading the slide than actually listening to what the presenter is saying.

      Comparitively, I feel a blackboard is superior, because it is inherently animated, and the presenter himself is animated, giving the audience a more vivid experience of how to produce or generate these concepts from, literally, a blank slate, and a proper understanding of the subject matter.

    29. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 1

      Hear, Hear. One of the best classes I took at University was EE265/266, Digital Circuits, and the teacher, Dr. Dave Meyer wrote the textbook. The book was published through the Purdue publications and cost about $7.00 (yes, seven dollars) The book, "Little Bits of Digital Wisdom", was loose leaf binder type paper and was half done. During class, he would put up a slide of each page and fill int the rest of the information in a manner similar to what you describe in your post.

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    30. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by Kelbear · · Score: 1

      "Animations are annoying at best" does not sound like a fair judgement of the potential in animations.

      Blackboard lessons are not the same as the paper notes that come out. The blackboard starts blank and is filled in with accompanying explanation. The paper is a series of snapshots.

      An animation simulates a lesson through time, while the paper is simply the final result. For example, I could have a simple graph of a curve on an XY plane followed by an explanation of why the curve behaves the way it does. These notes will be filled in along the edges or inside the graph, etc.

      However, what happens when a second curve needs to be graphed? What if it relates to the first? Teachers draw it right over the graph, sometimes through where the student has written in their notes. A new XY plane needs to be graphed. What about 2-case scenario for the 3rd curve requiring the 1st+2nd curve to be redrawn twice to have each possibile 3rd curve written over it. This is all time spent drawing.

      Worse, blackboards are erased. Permanently. Paper notes are circumvented by erasure because part of their benefit is future reference. In the case of the teacher showing both possibilities for the 3rd curve as shown above, in order to avoid re-drawing the 1st+2nd curve twice, they just do it once, draw the 3rd, erase it, and then draw another over it.

      This leaves the students in the dust because erasing it means losing the permanent record of the first part of the example. Now they need to draw a new graph while the teacher doesn't and the teacher is continuing on.

      With powerpoint slides, this frenzied graphing can be left behind, and step-by-step construction of the graph can be preserved rather than just starting with the complicated end result.

      It's a potentially useful tool, just like the blackboards, and should be added to a repertoire for what it does best. A blackboard is still useful in that it can easily deviate from the lesson plan to answer a question in detail on the spot, while a powerpoint presentation can be kept alongside to make sure major points are covered and remain available for reference when the tangent is completed.

    31. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by Kelbear · · Score: 1

      Working out each step on the blackboard may not be preservable on paper since a blackboard lesson does not mimic how paper notes are written. Paper notes only have an eraser applied to remove an error, while a blackboard lesson regularly wipes part or all of the lesson, and may redraw over the same space.

      For example, I could use a blackboard to graph 2 lines, erase the 2nd, and draw a 3rd in its place.

      On paper, I need to draw 2 lines, then draw a second graph for the next pair.

      When working with larger quantities of curves, the resulting blackboard graph can be nigh undecipherable with so many footnotes and so much information to absorb, such that redrawing at each step is impossible, and simply viewing the cluttered end result is unreadable.

      A student can choose to venture ahead and be content with a flawed understanding while tuning out for the rest of the lesson. This is true. However in such a case the student has sabotaged him/herself due to their own attitude rather than a struggle against intractible formats. I would prefer that the student succeed, but I would much rather that the student fail by choice rather than by fortune.

    32. Re:Sounds like a good starting point. by Kelbear · · Score: 1

      Conversely, you could say that a blackboard is inferior, because it fails to translate into paper notes which are not progressive and must be redrawn at every interval in order to display a step-by-step progression. Blackboard erasure can destroy note progression as well.

      Whereas a powerpoint presentation need not begin from the conclusion of the graph's construction as blackboard notes would appear. It too can start from a blank page and progress iteratively through the steps, and be made available for reproduction on the student's PC as well. One of my teachers did exactly this, requiring students to print the slides before class at the computer labs, then recommended that our notes be written onto the printed slides so that we could take clean and clear notes on each step rather than piling them all onto a single graph like normal notes would be.

  11. Apple Learning Interchange by Twid · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you use OS X then the Apple Learning Interchange is a really good resource site. It has hundreds of teacher-contributed lesson plans.

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    1. Re:Apple Learning Interchange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you forgot he said tablet?
      OS X does not have tablet functionality without hacking the system

  12. Computers in the classroom are great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... if you are teaching, say, programming.

    Otherwise, turn the damn thing off and teach.

    I say this as a professional programmer/neophile whose wife taught in a district that billg used to hold up as a tecnocational (I think I'll copyright that word) success story.

    1. Re:Computers in the classroom are great... by bdo19 · · Score: 1
      I opened that up and the first word that popped out was in the middle of the middle column, top line. LemonLINK.

      LemonLINK? LemonLINK???

      Only from a school district. *shakes head*

  13. Ways to use the technology by confused+one · · Score: 4, Informative

    One way the tablet is better than a blackboard is that you can save a written copy of your lecture, and make copies available to the students. That way they can spend their time paying attention to the lecture, instead of rushing to copy everything down. This can make the class more interactive.

    The PC can be used, in general, to demo the physics and calculus principles through animation. It can be a useful teaching tool, just don't let it replace the hands on activities usually done in the lab portions of the course. Sometimes doing is better than seeing.

    1. Re:Ways to use the technology by bishop32x · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It may be different for you, but seeing something up on the board doesn't help me learn. Graphics are great for illustrating a point, but in terms of equations and diagrams, I need to write it to remember it. Getting copies of the instructors notes just gives students a lazy way out, not a chance to participate more.

    2. Re:Ways to use the technology by gomiam · · Score: 3, Insightful
      but in terms of equations and diagrams, I need to write it to remember it.

      In terms of equations you are not supposed to remember it (mostly). You are supposed to understand it.

    3. Re:Ways to use the technology by i_b_don · · Score: 1

      So a great way to do this is to give the students the notes before hand and let them chicken-scratch their notes on each page. Give them a PDF file they can DL and use if they want... that way YOU as a teacher dont' end up footing their printing bill.

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    4. Re:Ways to use the technology by gomiam · · Score: 1

      Or they may get the notes beforehand and take notes on paper. I did that, at least: I only needed to label the slides and where each note was to be applied; it wasn't time-consuming. Giving them PDFs may be a good idea, too: they can read it without needing to carry a stack of papers, if they so desire. You don't need to foot their printing bill, by the way: you give one (or two) copies and let them photocopy at will.

    5. Re:Ways to use the technology by wirehead_rick · · Score: 1

      Ridiculous.

      The act of writing notes has nothing to do with _having_ the notes when the lecture is over.

      If one is actually following the lecture the act of writing is causing you to affect your brain in a way that listening alone doesn't. In a way you are interacting instead of just listening. Interactivity is always more powerful with learning than passive absoption.

      The additional advantage is having a set of notes for review when studying for tests.

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    6. Re:Ways to use the technology by confused+one · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're like most people. It's how the brain works. We have to write it down or spend time "hands on" in order to learn. That's what the homework assignments and labs are for. There is a method to my madness...

      One thing that really frustrates me is when I am pressed to copy something. I've run into plenty of teachers who can write on a blackboard faster than I can on paper.

      If you're expending 100% of your efforts trying to copy the stuff down, you're not learning, you're transcribing. The key is to hand out the lecture notes then really make the class interactive. Ask questions. Make the students solve problems together. Then balance that with homework assignments that let students practice the skills and tests their knowledge. It doesn't hurt to make them think a little too.

      soapbox_mode
      A good teacher will use the homework as feedback indicating how effective their teaching methods are and how well the students are learning the material.
      /soapbox_mode

      For what it's worth... I graduated high school decades ago. I am not a teacher. I have a degree in applied physicist.

    7. Re:Ways to use the technology by Arethan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In terms of equations you are not supposed to remember it (mostly). You are supposed to understand it.
      Tell that to my high school trigonometry teacher. (Those were the days...) He expected everyone to remember every trig equation like they came up with it themselves. (And I mean ALL of them, not just the simple stuff.)

      So when I found out that he was allowing students to use graphing calculators on the final exam since, "they won't help you anyways", I spent the last week of class time slowly entering all of the functions into my TI-85 so I could refer to them later. Turns out what I did was "damn smart (tm)", because he used every single last one of them on the exam multiple times.

      That was the last time I used most of those equations. I still use a few here and there, but never frequently enough to really remember anything past the basic use cases of sin/cos and what their output looks like. In the end I feel that I have accomplished the requirements of high school level trig, as I understand how and why trig works, but asking people to remember those equations is unrealistic and it made the class artificially difficult.
    8. Re:Ways to use the technology by bigbigbison · · Score: 1

      I think it depends on the subject. I teach discussion heavy classes where we talk about the issues. So I put the powerpoints online so that students can spend more time thinking about the issues and less about trying to write stuff down.

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  14. As a student by Bluesman · · Score: 1

    I've had a professor that makes great use of his tablet, mostly because the notes are already written when he gets there, and if someone has a question he can write more on the fly.

    This is at a post-grad level. I think high school math would benefit from animated examples.

    I wouldn't go too far into the technology aspect, though. Pencil and paper are the tools to learn math.

    The best math class I had was where the prof used contraptions he made out of springs and plywood to demonstrate differential equations.

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    1. Re:As a student by poopdeville · · Score: 1

      Pencil and paper are the tools to learn math.

      I prefer a fountain pen and vellum. Easier and faster to write with than pencil and paper, giving me more time to focus on the material rather than taking notes. Rhodia makes very nice "vellum paper" notebooks, and Schaeffer makes $10 "disposable" refillable fountain pens. I got one of those on a lark and was hooked. Try it sometime. You might like it.

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  15. suggestion by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've always found it cool and educational when one can fiddle with the various factors in equations and see how it changes the shape on a graph. It gives one a sense of proportion and relationships.

    1. Re:suggestion by tftp · · Score: 1
      It's cool but not always educational. For example, at work I use a tool sometimes that is called Microwave Office (it's an expensive RF design CAD.) It has this feature. You can change the value of any component in the circuit and see how various graphs are affected. However to get anything useful out of this function you need to know in theory why this happens and how. Just seeing peaks and valleys appearing and disappearing is not very exciting.

      Besides, most of engineering work involves far more than two or three dimensions; if you for example want to model the effect of tolerances of 100 components then you are looking right there at a 101-dimensional problem (and likely more.) Plotting of such a surface would be impossible. Engineers usually minimize the effort by disregarding minor effects and focusing on major factors, followed by numeric simulation of the circuit around sensitive points in, say, 100-dimensional space.

    2. Re:suggestion by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I don't see the equation changing, only the plot point. I'll try to think of a way to better describe it in text...

    3. Re:suggestion by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1
      Try entering an equation with some constant values in it, like

      2*x^2+2*x+2

  16. sparsley by bishop32x · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The problem with most of the technology is that it gives information too fast for most students. It's easy to whip up a whole bunch of slides, or pre-made note-sheets for a document camera, but it's much harder for the students to follow. When you're doing things on the board (I guess a tablet pc and a projector might work here) it's much easier to understand step by step process, particularly in derivations, when the instructor is speaking and writing every step of the way. In terms of tablets versus blackboards, blackboards generally allow you to keep more information in front of your students for longer, but feel free to ignore this if the geometry of your space limits blackboard space.

    The other mistake that many of my tech-savvy instructors (both high-school teachers and professors)have made is distributing copies of your notes. It sounds like a good way of making sure all of your students gets all of the information, but it completly eliminates the need to take notes in class or even pay attention to what you're saying.

  17. Wrong question by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you don't know how you're going to use it to meet your classroom goals, maybe you should be asking yourself why you intend to use it at all.

    "Because it's there" doesn't seem like a good reason for introducing technology into the classroom.

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    1. Re:Wrong question by Score+Whore · · Score: 1

      For physics, the thing I always found best was lots of real world examples. Don't explain mechanical advantage- set up a pulley system and let them lift a car.


      That's the wrong idea. The right idea is setup a small series of mechanical examples showing how the pulley system provides advantage. Then provide them with the math. Then have them figure out what pulley system they'll need to lift a car one handed. Then setup up two such systems and tie a rope around each arm. Then drop the lifts out from underneath the cars. If they did their math correctly, they'll still be able to clap after the exercise.
    2. Re:Wrong question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, it's perfectly legitimate to ask a question like this and to consider the answers.

      It's simply learning from others' mistakes and experiences as well as your own.

      The questioner is [wrongly in your case evidently] going for "I hope you have some good ideas" and not necessarily saying "I don't have any ideas"

    3. Re:Wrong question by McTaggart · · Score: 1

      The parent is pretty spot on. As much as I love technology and animations and shiny interactive demos I have never seen them outperform a whiteboard, the colours of whiteboard marker and a teacher who both knows the subject matter and believes his students should learn it.

      Preparing by typing up the notes and then showing them on an overhead or a projector or a fancy powerpoint pretty much always leads to the teacher simply reading them out rather than teaching it. The more technology you use the more people who aren't familiar with it you'll alienate and not get anything across to.

      And please don't make the mistake of thinking you can teach anything at all with videos. You can't.

    4. Re:Wrong question by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

      Indeed. An AP calculus class is probably not that difficult to engage; why wedge a machine between the teacher and student?

      - RG>

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  18. Two suggestions by belmolis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have two suggestions. (a) if there are things that you find tedious (e.g. marking) or difficult (e.g. sketches, if you aren't a good artist), look for technological solutions to those so that you can devote your time and energy to more important things and won't get tired and frustrated; (b) don't focus on your new toys. Instead, think about what ideas and skills you have a hard time getting across and ask yourself how you could improve in those areas. Sometimes the answer will be something your toys are good for, maybe a simulation for an experiment you can't readily do, but sometimes it won't be technological. It might just be a better derivation of a theorem or formula or a clever diagram. If you focus too much on your toys, you run the risk of doing things that you, and maybe your students, find cool, but that aren't really of much educational value.

    1. Re:Two suggestions by shbazjinkens · · Score: 1

      (a) if there are things that you find tedious (e.g. marking) or difficult (e.g. sketches, if you aren't a good artist)

      You can also simulate real-world experiments so that the students can get an idea of how something works without having to set up a demo. Here is a website full of flash animations that helped me a lot when I took physics for the first time in college.

  19. do cool stuff yo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I took a discrete math in high school with a lot of boring BS. one of the most exciting part of it though, was learning how credit card numbers were generated and verified with check numbers.... as well as pulling information from someones drivers license number.

    We also did limited forms of public key crypto.

    What I'm trying to say is that if you can apply the science to ninja/james bond/intriging/profitable use cases... you can hold attention much longer and garner more interest.

  20. Animations and 3D by Zaph0dB · · Score: 3, Informative

    In my university days, I understood a lot of calculus by visualizing an animated sequence (mean value theorem, limits, derivatives...). Animation is a great tool for these things. Same goes for numerical analysis.
    Also (from the same days), linear algebra can be (often / sometimes) simplified to a 2d / 3d projection which can be displayed easily by a computer. Forget that you CAN'T draw in 3D or can't animate in 2D on the board - the computer can.
    And of course - physics, chemistry, geography, history - omg, history would be so cool to learn with a projector, if done correctly (not just clips - diagrams, arrows on the world map describing population movements, pressures, wars) - all of the "real world" sciences are much more fun when working in the real world. Even political science (if your school offers it) can enjoy the benefits of a projector, even if only as a video machine (watching Marting Luther King Jr. making his speech for example).
    However - I don't think that a projector is a "magic wand". It conforms to the equation "invest more time, reap more results". If you invest the proper amount of time preparing good material (and not only video clips), your students would enjoy it immensely.
    Just my 2 bits.

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    1. Re:Animations and 3D by otie · · Score: 1

      One math professor told us that animated sequences and 3D graphics are pretty, but there's no significant learning advantage - the people who can't grasp the mathematical concepts from basic 2D blackboard (or basic overhead projector) drawings won't likely be helped by the animation either.

    2. Re:Animations and 3D by gilroy · · Score: 1
      Blockquoth the poster:

      One math professor told us that animated sequences and 3D graphics are pretty, but there's no significant learning advantage

      How old was the professor? Did his/her grad work predate cheap home computers? I'm not a gambling man, but I'd expect the answer is Yes. People who have succeeded in a system often have trouble seeing the flaws of that system -- but considering the abysmally small fraction of people who "can handle" math more advanced than arithmetic, I'd say traditional teaching methods have not actually been all that successful. Some fraction of the populace will be able to pick stuff up with just 2D chalk pictures. That doesn't mean it's the correct percentage, or that the others can't "do math".

      I know this blows the doors off for some people, but -- believe it or not -- there are more than one style of learning,and the one you use does not, by itself, make you superior or inferior at thinking.
  21. May I ask? by permaculture · · Score: 1

    Would you please share how you have seen the professor you mentioned in passing, use technology effectively for Math and Physics lessons? Go into detail.

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  22. PDFs of notes by nukem996 · · Score: 1

    In college my calc professor wrote everything on his tablet and projected it on a large screen. Not only did it make it much easier to read then chalk but he saved the notes as a PDF and uploaded it to his website a few hours after class. I always took notes but sometimes I would miss something or miswrite something so looking at his notes helped a lot.

  23. Best use of tech in the classroom ever: by ChePibe · · Score: 1

    Sorry, not a math or physics example. I'm a beginning law school student, and the best use I've seen so far is by the TA in my criminal law class. The professor has put the TA in charge of the PowerPoint presentation (he's the only professor there to actually use PowerPoint that I've seen) and the TA has this tendency of putting up the answers to whatever questions the prof is asking when some hapless student is getting grilled to death (and this prof loves to grill students). The TA always has a little grin on his face, and the Prof never turns around to find out... I imagine he'll force us all to pay a fee at the end of the semester for his services - a fee I would gladly pay =)

  24. Nice question; some ideas by xPsi · · Score: 3, Interesting
    As a physics professor, I often find myself asking the same kind of question. Sadly, I'm way behind you with your tablet and wireless projector, but you are definitely inspiring me with that kind of gear. Here are a few ideas:

    I try to use Mythbusters sub-episodes every so often as teaching tools. As most of us know, it's pretty entertaining and, while a little too seat-of-your-pants to serve as rigorous science, it definitely captures the scientific spirit and frequently inspires teachers and students alike. We'll typically watch some part of an episode, discuss the principles involved in the myth, and try and do some calculation related to the episode (e.g. number of ping pong balls to lift a boat off the bottom of the bay, terminal velocity of a penny, etc.). With your setup, you can nicely embed the parts of the video into a presentation then use the tablet to lead a real-time discussion of various topics of interest. As you probably know, there are many nice physics videos out there which can be used in this way. I also can suggest using a nice plotting calculator with your setup to quickly demonstrate ideas like Taylor expansion, Fourier decomposition, basic plotting, etc.

    There is some software available out there that will analyze video motion using basic mechanics tools (CM motion, rotational motion, vectors, motion diagrams, position versus time, etc.). You give it a few anchor points on the real video capture and can step it through the motion but with all the vectors and graphs superimposed. Although it is a cool idea, sadly, the version I tried was old quite clumsy (made more clumsy by the laptop/AV setup). However, with your tablet and wireless, you may have more versatility if updated software exists.

    There are several intriguing student grading/evaluation systems out there that use bar codes (for example, here). I know at a glance this sounds rather sinister and 1984-ish, but with student-customized bar codes (not tattooed on their foreheads, but rather printed on their papers), I think this can be used quite well to facilitate quick grading of quizzes with real-time feedback and histograms, class participation credit, and other creative classroom data organizing solutions. This could be made especially effective with the mobility provided by your tablet and wireless.

    Anyway, all the best with your pending projects.

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  25. Interactivity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In my experience as a teacher, technology in the classroom is only effective if the students are interacting with it. You have a good start with your tablet PC. the next thing I would add is 4 or 5 Wii controllers. These are fairly cheap and can be easily adopted to the P.C. You can then create all kinds of interactive applications and activities using any programming language or even Flash if you are so inclined. You also want to avoid spending a lot of your own money on technology for the classroom. I've fallen into this trap more than once.

  26. One unit to avoid by mpaulsen · · Score: 1

    If you teach middle school, don't order one of these. http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Meetin gs/Home/Solutions/Product_Catalog/DMS800Series/Pro duct_Info/ (heh, he said unit)

  27. Wow! A teacher who can use Technology! by chris_sawtell · · Score: 1

    You'd better be careful now. Carrying on like this will qualify you for Instant Sainthood in the eyes of many /.ers.

  28. effective use of tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had a calc teacher that is wheelchair bound. he extensively used two or three programs to great effect. One was basically just a word processor that was specialized for math equations. he used a lot of colors for different parts of equations, to show what happened in a certain step and things like that. another was a broad graphing/visual suite that allowed him to graph things out in many ways. it's been a while, I'm sorry I can't help any more, but instead of doing some chickenscratch on a tablet then saving a bitmap, he created text pdfs with equations and everything.

  29. Wrong question by AuMatar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Asking "how can I use technology" is always the wrong question. Your goal is not to use technology, its to teach. The correct question is "How can I increase the amount my students learn?" or perhaps "How can I increase the number of students who learn?". When you look at solutions to this technology *may* be part of it, but it probably won't be.

    For physics, the thing I always found best was lots of real world examples. Don't explain mechanical advantage- set up a pulley system and let them lift a car. Don't explain pressure- show it to them by lying on a bed of nails without being cut. The more fantastic the example, the better. About the only thing that I ever really found technology useful for in physics was to show the effect of changing parameters in equations, and you can find plenty of java applets on the web that do that.

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  30. You are on the right track -- by HW_Hack · · Score: 1

    But need to adapt your lessons to work with the technology. I work as a Technology Facilitator at a large high school and its a fact that many classes / subjects benefit from judicious use of technology and multimedia. If you can hook up a PC/Mac to the projector you can now use interactive websites (math - physics) to add depth / spice to your lessons. Our math dept makes heavy use of digital projectors - Elmo's (document cameras) - and programs on PC/Macs that can be projected up to the white screen. Many teachers also use a Mimio ( http://www.mimio.com/ ) to make any white board into an interactive white-board. You can do an entire lecture while capturing the content of the board to a digital file that you can print out for students or post on your website.

    The goal here is to teach math (pencil + paper) - but also to draw the student into new experiences or ways of seeing the problem.

    And keep in mind that most of these Slash-Dotters are either geezers or pre-geezers and haven't sat in a room full of 15yr olds ..... since they were 15.

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  31. Blackboard is best by blitz487 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Use of blackboards/whiteboards works very well. The prof writes the equations down as he explains them, and the students handwrite them into their notes. The prof writing them down keeps the focus on the relevant part, and the student handwriting a copy helps fix it in their brains.

    It ain't broke, and doesn't need fixing.

    1. Re:Blackboard is best by micpp · · Score: 1

      Except when the lecturer is moving through stuff so fast that the students are having to scribble things down so fast they don't have time to actually think about what they're writing. Although this tends to be with prewritten overhead slides rather than stuff on a blackboard.

      I find the most effective method I've seen is some of my lecturers will make their slides available... only with bits missing, which we then have to fill in during the lecture. Keeps the students awake by copying stuff down, but doesn't require them to write at ridiculously fast speeds to keep up.

    2. Re:Blackboard is best by gujo-odori · · Score: 1

      I have to second this. The best math teacher I ever had, by far (Fred Lyon, if you're out there, thank you!) used a blackboard and his great talent for *teaching* math to people. Sadly, nearly all of the math teachers I ever had were people who clearly had a talent for math but who had pathetically little skill as teachers.

      Years later, I spent a few years as a teacher myself, which confirmed for me that they were crappy teachers, it was just me. I can say without egotism that I was a good teacher, and I used nothing more advanced than a TV and VCR in the classroom, and even those were very sparingly used.

      If you want to use a projector and a tablet notebook, that's cool. If they had had those when I was teaching, I might have used them, too. I hate chalk. Apart from that, I'd advise you not to get too hung up on technology. Being an effective teacher is all about effectively communicating what you know to others; high tech devices in a class that's not teaching people about high-tech devices can just as easily (if not more so) hinder your goal as help it.

      Being a good teacher is not about technology. It's about being a good teacher. Technology can sometimes help with this, but at least as often, it can't. That's why classrooms still have chalkboards and/or whiteboards after all these years.

    3. Re:Blackboard is best by gilroy · · Score: 1
      Blockquote the poster:

      That's why classrooms still have chalkboards and/or whiteboards after all these years.

      Yes and no. You can't complete neglect the impact of factors like cost and conservatism.
    4. Re:Blackboard is best by dana340 · · Score: 1

      Technology is a means to assist the teacher and students, not a substitute for teaching skill! Using technology properly is the key, and can be more effective. I still had students write down notes even though i had power point presentations. I had some special needs students who i would give copies to, and also printouts the slides are great for absent students. I supplimented the notes with animation. not possible on the blackboard, which helped to crystallize the concepts i was trying to teach. it's not just memorizing formulas in math class.

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    5. Re:Blackboard is best by CorporalKlinger · · Score: 1

      I have to agree with the idea that blackboards and whiteboards are great for the learning process, particularly in math and physics. As an engineering major at a large state university, I had to take all the usual high-end mathematics and physics classes - Multivariable calculus, matrix algebra, differential equations, finite mathematics, subatomic physics, etc. The same technologies you've described - tablet PC and projector - were available in all of those classes. Only a few professors decided to use them. When they did, the students banded together to tell the professor to STOP - that we'd rather they teach than give us a powerpoint or show us nifty demonstrations in Mathematica or Maple. Back to the old blackboard and everyone was happy.

      It's because math and physics aren't like a business or art history class, where you can sit quietly and passively absorb information. The learning process has to be interactive to be effective. The best way to make math interactive is to reproduce exactly what students will have to do in homework and exams in class - something difficult to do with a laptop unless you're assigning them homework in Mathematica or Maple. In short, those tech tools are cute and pretty, and they may serve a purpose for high-level mathematicians once they understand the mathematics that can be replicated with those programs, but they have no place in the classroom other than to say "isn't this neat? Now back to the blackboard." Now that I'm a graduate student, we rarely touch the "real math" behind things, opting to use Matlab or another analysis tool instead... but I can still do a Fourier Transform and simulate complex systems with the math I know - if I need to. If I'd started with the technology, I know with absolute certainty that I would not have those skills.

  32. Clickers... by jbf · · Score: 1

    Like the iclicker can help you gauge student understanding. (counting the blank stares helps too).

  33. Well on the software side. by pjr.cc · · Score: 1

    There are quite a number of options, but it can depend on what your using (OS wise). I remember using a nuclear power station simulator in physics once that was kinda kewl. But its been years since i was at school too. I would suggest searching on code.google.com, sourceforge.net and freshmeat.net. I know sourceforge.net and freshmeat both have quite a few visually based software packages that revolve around physics and maths.

    This might be a good example: http://freshmeat.net/projects/physics3d/

    The tricky thing for me would be to try and apply visual aids to maths, depending on the level required and what type of math it is. As has been suggested though, the ability to modify notes and distribute them on the fly would be a big plus. Sitting there writing down what the teach was saying (while it does seem to increase the ability of the human mind to retain things) was always an annoyance! :)

    Probably not the most useful post however!

  34. Generic Headline by achten · · Score: 1

    The title should be "Effective use of software tools in Algebra, AP Calculus, and Physics classroom in high school"

  35. None by Secret+Rabbit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find it stunning (and disturbing) that there is this notion that adding tech to the classroom is by default beneficial. This idea is complete rubbish and the studies are starting to mount that show this (see below). Especially when it comes to the hard sciences and mathematics. We know that 'dead poets society' ruined a generation of english teachers. IMO, technology is ruining a generation (or more) of science/math teachers.

    I've seen exactly ZERO tech used in class beyond an overhead that was anywhere near effective whether high-school or beyond. Hell, even when I taught *C++* I used the white-board a significant chunk of the time. Also, in high-school, that cover of darkness can prove to be a bad choice.

    Powerpoint (and similar products) are so poorly used (I've actually /never/ seen it used properly) that they actually seriously detract from the class. In fact, people tend to do the exactly same nonsense with powerpoint that they do with the chalkboard i.e. write what they say. Yes, I can read, tell me/write on the board something I can't.

    There have also been studies on using tech with kids (look through /. archives for the links). The conclusions were that all this tech actually largely prevents learning because the kids are distracted by all the "shiny objects" rather than actually paying attention to the content.

    So, my suggestion is to put away all of you expensive toys (that are proving to be less and less effective as time goes on), pick up a piece of chalk and actually teach them. After all, when it comes to Math and Science, all you need is quick sketches to get the ideas across, now don't you.

    1. Re:None by Osty · · Score: 1

      Powerpoint (and similar products) are so poorly used (I've actually /never/ seen it used properly) that they actually seriously detract from the class. In fact, people tend to do the exactly same nonsense with powerpoint that they do with the chalkboard i.e. write what they say. Yes, I can read, tell me/write on the board something I can't.

      It really depends on the teacher. For example, my Physics professor in college (had him for three classes, 2.5 semesters) used Powerpoint extensively and to good effect. The slides were available at the copy shop (would've been better if they were electronically available, but the copy shops run a racket on campuses for note printing) in Powerpoint's "note" format (two slides per page, with space to take notes on each). During class, the prof would use Powerpoint's pen tool to write equations, draw graphs, etc. He did all of that with a mouse and was amazingly good, but I guess you get pretty good at writing/drawing with a mouse when you use Powerpoint several hours a day, 5 days a week. That was before tablet PCs, so I would suspect a tablet + Powerpoint + a nice projector would make for a really good experience.

      What really helped the slides was that the prof didn't just read what was there, or circle/highlight bits already on the slide. He used the slides to setup the basic premise and then went through the steps to show whatever concept he happened to be teaching at the time.

      That's not to say that Powerpoint is always going to be the best thing to use. It's great in a large lecture hall setting, where the prof is teaching 200-300 people at once with more individual emphasis happening during discussion sections and office hours. For a typical high school class, Powerpoint is going to be overkill -- there's simply no need for a huge projected image when you have 25-30 people sitting in close proximity who can all see the whiteboard/blackboard and can have an interactive discussion rather than being lectured to. I also don't think Powerpoint would work very well for an "arts" class (history, literature, etc -- anything but math/science), but that just might be because my best experience with it was in a hard science class.

      I also think Powerpoint is way overdone in business, but when I make presentations aided by a slide deck I at least try to keep the slides as brief notes for what I'm talking about and use the interactive nature of Powerpoint to highlight/emphasize/add detail to slides as I'm talking. Too many people use Powerpoint as if they were presenting slides from their family vacations, and we all know how boring that can be.

    2. Re:None by Anithira · · Score: 1

      I find it stunning (and disturbing) that there is this notion that adding tech to the classroom is by default beneficial. This idea is complete rubbish and the studies are starting to mount that show this (see below). Especially when it comes to the hard sciences and mathematics. We know that 'dead poets society' ruined a generation of english teachers. IMO, technology is ruining a generation (or more) of science/math teachers. I don't think anyone is claiming that adding technology to the classroom is by default beneficial. It's a fallacy to say so. No one will benefit from poorly used technology in the classroom. Technology can and does improve learning on an individual basis, and will create interesting projects for anyone, but that's not the point here. We're talking a teacher using technology to teach their students.

      Powerpoint (and similar products) are so poorly used (I've actually /never/ seen it used properly) that they actually seriously detract from the class. In fact, people tend to do the exactly same nonsense with powerpoint that they do with the chalkboard i.e. write what they say. Yes, I can read, tell me/write on the board something I can't. Here's the problem though. I have never seen anyone use powerpoint in classrooms effectively either, but that doesn't mean it can't be. This also illistrates another problem. Every student learns differently. Some students can absorb information by listening and writing out the notes. Others (like myself) have to see something written down to grasp it, and usually stuggle when trying to write down notes pulled out of the air of the lecturer. There's others that need to feel and do the experiments to fully grasp them. A good example of this is from my C++ programming class. Some programs we were required to do a plan. Write out in english how we're going to do a function. Make notes of what functions were being used, how to figure out if a cell would contain a 5 or a 7, etc. etc. I know for a fact that some students needed this to fully grasp how to program. They weren't bad programmers at all. Others, like myself, saw no use for this and hated doing it. You have to try and teach every kid.

      So, my suggestion is to put away all of you expensive toys (that are proving to be less and less effective as time goes on), pick up a piece of chalk and actually teach them. After all, when it comes to Math and Science, all you need is quick sketches to get the ideas across, now don't you. Not to all. Again, teaching is to make sure as many people get it as possible. Take my Physics. I was always extremely good with math, but when it came to calculating forces of various things in Physics, I was lost. Maybe a bad teacher, or maybe lack of good information, or maybe I needed an example done like that one in the MIT video further up to grasp all the forces and how they interact. While that is the past, you never know with the future. Using too much technology is bad. No one will ever learn if the screen is sparkling and playing sounds all the time, and you're just regurgitating what you see on the screen. Using the right technology can be benificial no matter what subject you teach. Videotape a marble rolling down an incline, show the students, discuss it, draw over a still. I will learn much better if i have an actual image that I can remember, rather than just some lines and arrows on a chalkboard. I'm sure I'm not alone in that either.
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    3. Re:None by gilroy · · Score: 1

      Wow. No disrespect intended, but I think you're flat-out wrong. Physics is largely about how systems evolve through time, and the ability to render animations or quickly replot graphs is incredibly helpful in getting across concepts, both basic and advanced. Unlike many of the times I post on /. I can speak of this with some justification, as I am a physics teacher who's been using a smartboard for four years now.

      It's certainly possible to be seduced by the bright shiny objects. That's a far cry from "proving" that new technology is per se bad. The problem with a call for doing it the way we've always done it, is that the way we've always done it absolutely sucks -- its success rate was measurable in the low percents. Hence in part physics' reputation as not just hard but ungettable.

    4. Re:None by Pumpkin+Tuna · · Score: 1

      "Students today can't prepare bark to calculate their problems. They depend upon their slates which are more expensive. What will they do when the slate is dropped and it breaks? They will be unable to write."
        - Teachers Conference, 1703

      "Students today depend upon paper too much. They don't know how to write on a slate without getting chalk dust all over themselves. They can't clean a slate properly. What will they do when they run out of paper? "
        - Principals Association, 1815

      "I find it stunning (and disturbing) that there is this notion that adding tech to the classroom is by default beneficial. This idea is complete rubbish and the studies are starting to mount that show this . . ."

      Wow! Your quote fits right in with the long-held view of technology in education. The first two quotes come from the book Edutrends by David Thornburg. Anybody out there still preparing bark?

      To paraphrase edtech guru David Warlick, computers, interactive whiteboards and projectors, ipods, wikis, blogs and social networks are the pen and paper of our times. These are the tools that students are embracing outside of the classroom, and teachers who are worth a damn are CAREFULLY working out how to embrace them in the classroom. I can't imagine teaching without access to a projector. I have used still pictures and videos pulled from the Internet, a 3D walkthrough of the globe theater, a document camera to quickly share writing examples from the class, a hyperlinked powerpoint where students click on words in a sentence to find the right part of speech, sound effects, audio of poets reading a poem while the words appear on the screen and review sessions disguised as games of Jeopardy.

      Of course I could have simply done all my teaching with a piece of chalk, but that, not turning off the lights, is what makes intelligent, bored students go to sleep. Kids who aren't engaged tend to zone out. Technology used effectively can sometimes keep them engaged.

      I admit that a big part of the problem is unimaginative teachers. My new job this school year is being a technology facilitator to help spark some ideas for the teachers in my district. But another problem is that taxpayers tend to embrace convenient ideas like "you don't need anything but a blackboard." If we want to reach students and improve schools we need to buy the technology and then spend the money to train our teachers how to use it well.

      I could say more, but I need to go prepare some bark.

    5. Re:None by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, my suggestion is to put away all of you expensive toys (that are proving to be less and less effective as time goes on), pick up a piece of chalk and actually teach them. After all, when it comes to Math and Science, all you need is quick sketches to get the ideas across, now don't you. As a high school Physics teacher, I have to disagree.

      True, there are some students who are able to turn a (poorly drawn) two-dimensional picture into a three-dimensional object in their heads (I was one of them). But most students can't. What works best for these students is the real deal, actually hands-on materials. Besides Physics is the science that actually pertains to every aspect of everyday life.

      Getting back to the original question, Pasco makes a ton of great tech equipment for demos and lab activities. They have, for example, sonar motion sensors which hook up to your computer and in real time display displacement, velocity, and acceleration vs. time graphs.

      I would also recommend getting a textbook that has an online component. I just started using Cutnell & Johnson's "Physics 7th Edition" this year (technically a college text), which has an interactive student companion site (including interactive simulations and walk-throughs of book problems among other things). It even came with an instructor disc that contains all of the illustrations from the book in jpg format, ready to be put in a PowerPoint presentation or worksheet.
    6. Re:None by hammy35 · · Score: 1

      Interesting comments. Thanks to all who put in their 2 bits; here's mine. I started teaching with blackboards and found the environment quite restrictive. I teach math and chem and whenever we had to graph something or, heaven forbid, transform a graph, the blackboard was found wanting (even when I had coloured chalk). Using tech applications with the projector has helped make concepts come to life and help make them understandable to the students. I use a tool from Smart Technologies (www.smarttech.com) called Notebook that actually resembles the idea of a blackboard/whiteboard but that allows me to take advantage of things moving, transforming, etc. When used in conjunction with a Tablet and/or one of Smart Technologies (or other interactive whiteboards) SmartBoards, it makes for an engaging medium for students. So, I still get to write on the "board", students can still copy as I write but at the end of the lesson I can save our experience and post online. Also, I can have so many things prepared for the students before class. I don't have to waste time drawing diagrams to illustrate a point, I can have them prepared before class. So, what tools, other than PowerPoint (good for presentations at a conference but I question its use in classes) are out there that we can use? jrh

    7. Re:None by Secret+Rabbit · · Score: 1

      I do know that there is an insignificant amount of people that can and have used powerpoint effectively. But, an exception to the rule does not disprove it. I'd also *not* say that it /is/ great when teaching a large amount of people, but /could/ be in the hands of someone like that prof you mentioned. But again, people like him are rare (understatement).

      In my experience, the effectiveness of powerpoint is the exact opposite of you. The arts, where pretty pictures are prolific, powerpoint would be /far/ more effective. I think that you're one (assumption) good experience in the hard sciences is clouding you to the general problem of powerpoint and related programs i.e. just because it can, does _not_ mean it is: re: studies show to the contrary.

      I found this one funny if you haven't seen it before:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLpjrHzgSRM

    8. Re:None by bigbigbison · · Score: 1

      I think it depends on the subject. I teach cultural studies and while i don't use powerpoint all that much I do use tech to show clips that illustrate points or look something up on the internet.

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  36. Some useful tools by Verte · · Score: 1

    Animations and interactivity are always great- Mathematica, Maple, or Python + Matplotlib can be handy for this. If you have access to fluid or electrical system modelling software too, great. Otherwise, there is not a lot you can do. At the end of the day, there is only one way to learn to apply principals: a combination of reading and examining the ideas, and examples.

    Some people have mentioned having the notes reproduced in PDF- I found I did much better in the university classes where notes were distributed rather than having to be copied down, because it leaves more time for meditation on the subject matter, and reduces needless duplication of work. I doubt it would work the same in high school, though.

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  37. Learn a bit of code... by ayjay29 · · Score: 1

    Hi,

    I trained as a physics teacher 12 years ago, and worte a couple of small applications for the studnets to use during lab sessions. They were basic sumulations, using line graphics, and Turbo C++. They worked quite well in the class, when combined with traditional labs as well.

    You can download the Visual Studio express editions for free, and it should be fairly easy to get something simple up and running. Just create a windows app, then drop on a timer, and use the events to drive an animation. Start with something simple, then build on it.

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  38. OS X Graphing Utility by catchblue22 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I teach AP Calc, and I bring my Macbook Pro to class. I find the Grapher Utility included with OS X to be really cool. I use it as a quick way to show graphs (one of my favorites is y=xe^(1/x)...slant asymptote and interesting behavior at x=0). I can drag the graphs around, and zoom in and out. This is really useful for showing asymptotic behavior for example. You can also create quick pdf versions of the graphs that can be easily be pasted into other word processing software...this makes test creation a lot easier. The output is quite high quality...far better, and easier than using Excel to graph...yech!

    But if you don't have a mac, I have seen some really cool looking software that works with tablet pc's (I've forgotten what it is called). You can write all your notes by hand on the tablet, and they show up just as they would on a white board. But then you can save all of your class notes. This is extremely useful if you have some student come to you and say that they need the class notes because they were sick. I haven't personally used it, so I can't totally vouch for its usability, but it seemed pretty neat at first glance. Be prepared to shell out big bucks for light bulb replacements if you use the projector every day.

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    1. Re:OS X Graphing Utility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DPGraph for Windows. $10 per individual license with free viewers for the students. Check if your institution already has a site license: http://www.dpgraph.com/graphing-users.html

    2. Re:OS X Graphing Utility by SmilingSalmon · · Score: 1

      Try the Graphing Calculator. It's awesome. Try the demo/tour.

      http://www.pacifict.com/

  39. Drop it. by Marty200 · · Score: 1

    Have them calculate at what height you would have to drop your tablet to break it. Then have them test the results.

    MG

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  40. I have no idea how to apply this but... by localman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have learned more math and physics as a result of self-guided programming than I ever did in school. I remember a few years ago I was working on a simple vector graphics system for a video game I was making, and I finally understood the point of converting between cartesian and polar coordinates. Then I added physics to the program and picked up ideas like velocity along the angle of impact vs. the tangent. Recently I was working on a program to find color differences, and had to scale certain 0-1 values into a curve by using various exponents.

    These are all simple things that I should have picked up in school. Things which I'm sure were explained but without any practical (or even impractical) application. So I only had the vaguest recollection that they were even possible. But the moment I encountered a programming problem that I wanted to solve, yet required this kind of knowledge, I vacuumed it up.

    That may not be what you mean by "using technology" in the classroom, but it's what came to mind for me.

    Cheers.

    1. Re:I have no idea how to apply this but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The key is motivation, not technology. Not everyone is interested in making computer games. Students in a class have different interests, so I don't think you can always motivate everyone. (Of course it depends on how freely students can choose courses; the more they can, the more self-selected the class will be).

    2. Re:I have no idea how to apply this but... by localman · · Score: 1

      Of course not everyone is interested in making computer games, but most people are interested in... something. I guess it would be ideal if we could identify those interests and benevolently exploit them in the interest of learning.

      For the people who aren't interested in anything at all, they can take the standard classes and have 10% retention like everyone does at the moment.

      I guess I'm just saying that a little optimization of learning might be good, as opposed to the lowest common denominator approach we have now.

      Cheers.

  41. Best use for technology by dsgrntlxmply · · Score: 1
    I suggest using the tacky attention-getting techniques of 1998-era Web ads (rapid flashing alternating red background / green text and vice versa), and punch-the-monkey animation, as a reminder that a few specific topics are not as useless as they first seem in high school math, and will in fact be required repeatedly by at least the second semester of calculus:

    1) The quadratic formula
    2) Factoring of polynomials
    3) Polynomial long division
    4) Completing the square (which I still cannot remember).

    Everything else is better handled with a whiteboard and enough colored markers. At least until you get to slope fields, where Mathematica is a very welcome aid.

    If technology is used in the classroom, it needs to be ready and reliable. Even the time spent waiting for a projector to warm up, is a large loss from 50 classroom minutes.

    The above is from the perspective of an adult university student.

  42. technology is often just a distraction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In high school, I often found that attempts to use new technology in the classroom were more distracting than anything. It often rook a few minutes to get everything set up, what with messing around with wires, waiting for projectors to start up and such. It's just enough time for the students to have started talking amongst themselves and get distracted from whatever you're actually teaching. And once it was finally started, the technology rarely seemed to add anything. In many cases, it seemed more like the teachers were just saying "Oooh, loookie what I can do," rather than actually doing something that really helped people learn things. Don't try to plan lessons with the intention of using a certain technology; only use it if it seems to be the best way to convey information. And when you use it, try to make sure everything is set up beforehand and can start up immediately.

  43. What not to do... by Brit_in_the_USA · · Score: 1

    Spam, pop-up, viruses etc. would be a major distraction and a source of amusement to your class, so I would suggest that the machine has very good virus and spy-ware protection and is NEVER used for personal Internet access or any education unrelated programs and stays off the Internet while running during your class (unless you must show them an online page in real time - save an offline copy of the page for the class).

    Remember, you will have some sharp eyed students in your class who will work out your email address, IM user names, IM friends list, what programs you have installed etc.etc. if they even so much as see any related program window or start menu for a split second.

    Never update any piece of software of windows for that matter just before a class (if it isn't broken don't fix it)

  44. Educational research by enigma48 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I completed my teaching qualifications (Math and IT, high school) in 2005 and did a little bit of research into this. I'm sorry I don't have time to find links but here's what I found:

    * When small groups or individual students were given wireless voting devices and some of the lesson was interactive (i.e. "So, what does everyone think will happen when I drop this metal into water?") the students enjoyed and recalled the lesson better.

    * When *anonymous* brainstorming software was used, student participation is significantly improved. (Improved participation in general has been linked to better learning for decades)

    Check out the ERIC database, I think some articles are available with full-text and you can get some pretty cool ideas just from the abstracts.

  45. Some examples from physics... by Entropius · · Score: 1

    From the lecture end: Realtime computer graphics can be useful for illustrating concepts that can't really be represented well in static drawings on a blackboard, especially those that involve time evolution.

    Solutions to Schroedinger's equation in one dimension, for instance, mapping XYZ to x, Re(psi), Im(psi). Then do time evolution to illustrate things like wave packets.

    Electromagnetic radiation is another -- computer graphics are useful for showing the fields produced by a charge moving in a particular way. For introductory students, programs that automatically generate the fields and equipotentials resulting from a given electrostatic charge distribution can be instructive if the students get to fiddle with it. (It's useless in lectures because it can be drawn on the board.)

    Classical mechanics, since it deals with the motion of visible macroscopic objects, can usually be covered pretty easily with video clips and real things to fiddle with -- everyone studying rigid-body motion (Euler's equations, etc.) should see the tumbling wrench video shot aboard the space shuttle.

  46. Get their attention by Nomad+the+Odd · · Score: 1

    Technology is a spectacular tool for getting attention. Shiny bits, movement, videos of explosions... All things technology does well. Other than that, it is often used as a replacement for leaning math than a tool. Use it to grab the kids' attention, then teach them the old fashioned way, then go back to moving and shiny things every once in a while, to keep them paying attention. (This written by someone who slept through 80% of his pre-calculus class because the teacher was too boring, and couldn't keep my ADD infested attention span. That class got repeated in college.)

  47. Smartboard Interactive Whiteboards by redglazelinux · · Score: 1

    I work for an Architectural firm and we are also trying use our technology more efficiently. We are using similar technology for reviewing architectural drawings and 3d models. We use a Smart Technologies brand SMART Board that was developed for use in educational institutions. Many schools across the nation are utilizing the boards for teaching math, science many other subjects. Many of the educational tools that are bundled with the SMART Board are inside of what is called the "Notebook Software" in the galleries. Inside the gallery you will find transparent protractors, rulers, etc. I conducted a demo with a smart board last year, and another one of the features that the teachers really liked was the ability to record what is happening on screen and save it to a movie file. For instance we worked through the process of a complex mathematical problem documenting each step. The teachers said it would be a great idea to make the video available online so that their students could review it if they had a question outside of class. I should also state that I did the demo as a favor and I am not employed or in any way affiliated with Smart Technologies Inc., however I do use their product on a daily basis and it is an amazing tool for anyone who would like to do more with technology.

  48. Re:Labor Saving is Only Advantage. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  49. Useful tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you need to produce high quality handouts or overheads etc with high mathematical formula content try the LaTEX typesetting tool, it does a much better job than a word processor. It's a bit tricky to learn but a little time spent in using it will pay dividends, plus, of course, it's free!

  50. If you use the technology, *use* it! by DaleGlass · · Score: 1

    I remember that when I was at school, teachers sometimes would use technology in a pointless way.

    For example, pointless way to use a projector: Take your printed/handwritten notes without graphs or drawings and project them. Might just as well distribute copies. Projecting is pointless when there's nothing interesting to see, and the time to set it up takes away from the class.

    Pointless way to use a lab: Get everybody into the lab, then tell them to open their books and study theory. Back then I was really puzzled what the point was. Today I'm fairly sure this must have been some way to get the school to claim the lab was used when it really wasn't. As a student, that was seriously annoying. Here I was thinking that we'd actually be testing something today, but no.

    Wrong way to use computers: Get everybody into the computer room, then spend half the class messing with software that doesn't work, and going from computer to computer checking who's having what problems. Test before you try to use it in your class, make sure everybody knows how to do what's needed to follow.

    All this probably sounds really obvious. But I've seen all of those mistakes done, sadly.

    1. Re:If you use the technology, *use* it! by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      Schools often have limited space, thus the science department will use all of their allocated space to make labs, which then results in them having to do book study in those labs...
      At least thats how it was in our school, all the science classrooms were kitted out as labs but we often just did book studies there.
      The presence of chemicals and equipment in the drawers and cupboards under the desks didn't help class discipline tho.

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    2. Re:If you use the technology, *use* it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For example, pointless way to use a projector... might just as well distribute copies.

      You've never seen a school budget, have you?

      Pointless way to use a lab... tell them to open their books and study theory.

      Limited rooms in overcrowded schools means a lab room is now a standard classroom, but with equipment on the desks.

      Wrong way to use computers... [go] from computer to computer checking who's having what problems. Test before you try to use it in your class, make sure everybody knows how to do what's needed to follow.

      And when will this student pre-training take place? After/before school? During a student's lunch period? They'll be *thrilled* by that prospect.

      All this probably sounds really obvious. But I've seen all of those mistakes done, sadly.

      As a teacher, these are the reasons why all of these things are done on a regular basis. Sadly.

    3. Re:If you use the technology, *use* it! by DaleGlass · · Score: 1

      Oh, that's the funniest thing.

      We moved from our own classroom, which then became empty, to the lab, which was shared among the rest. So we were taking something that somebody else could have used in a more productive way. We could have just remained in our own classroom and avoided taking the lab uselessly.

    4. Re:If you use the technology, *use* it! by DaleGlass · · Score: 1

      You've never seen a school budget, have you?

      There's a very simple way of doing that, each student pays for their copy. Or you make it available as a PDF so whoever wants it can print it. Some teachers at our school did that and it worked fine. A couple had an obsession with the projector for some reason.

      Limited rooms in overcrowded schools means a lab room is now a standard classroom, but with equipment on the desks.

      But that wasn't the problem, we were leaving our own classroom empty, and taking a shared lab without using it.

      And when will this student pre-training take place? After/before school? During a student's lunch period? They'll be *thrilled* by that prospect.

      No, at the start of the year. If it's 3 months after the start, people should already understand how to use the computers on a basic level, and we shouldn't have to waste half of it on installing software and trying to figure out why it's not working.

      As a teacher, these are the reasons why all of these things are done on a regular basis. Sadly.

      As a former student, I can say that sometimes those things are done on a regular basis because teachers are incompetent.
  51. Video Recordings by saurabhdutta · · Score: 1

    I went to Nanyang Technological University Singapore. Believe me, over there we had the most technically assisted smart classrooms. Media projectors, tablets connected to projectors, SMS questions to be shown on a seperate screen live and video recordings. My experience has been that other than the tablet thing, nothing else adds much value to the typical whiteboard setup except video recordings. These video recordings of lectures synced with the powerpoint slides which were available till the semester exams were done with were immensely useful in clearing out the last minute doubts. I wonder why this hasnt found much penetration in the universities/colleges internationally. Especially the wealthy ones.

  52. Intuition over Technology by pdexeriment626 · · Score: 1

    I am currently a Ph.D. student in mathematics and have been teaching tutorials and courses since my second year of Uni. My feeling about using computers and various pieces of technology to teach either one of these topics is that they are counterproductive. I had two incredible teaches as an undergraduate in math and physics, and NEITHER used technology to make them effective teachers. What made them good was that they knew how to explain seemingly complex ideas in simple intuitive terms; and they actually helped students to visualize mathematics/physics in their head. They essentially taught students how to teach themselves new ideas.

    The fact of the matter is, powerpoint style lectures have been shown to harm the attention span of students. It's like when you were in grade school and the teacher put on a movie for class; you zone out almost immediately. As for using computers to aid in 2D and 3D visualization, frankly I don't think this is a particularly good idea either. Students aren't always going to have a nice 3D movie given to them when they are faced with a new concept in math or physics. In higher level mathematics, naive 2D and 3D representations of concepts can be either misleading or incorrect; and making a student dependent on such simple visualizations cripples their ability to visualize more abstract concepts in effective ways. I believe in teaching students how to visualize things in their head; that is, how to sketch out pieces of a problem from something they see in the form of mathematics.

    The point is, anyone can sit down and read a textbook... and if you are a teacher that essentially just regurgitates what is inside the textbook, you will never be a great teacher no matter how much technology you use. A great teacher or lecturer is the one who can show the student a path to original intuition. This will enable the student to draw their own visualizations, etc. when confronted with a new problem. This is precisely what made Richard Feynmann such an incredible teacher; he used intuition to make the most complex concepts intuitively clear to anyone... then he reconciled that intuition with mathematics. The mark by which I judge myself in understanding a subject is that I should be able to pull someone off the street and get at least the idea of what I'm talking about across to them in a few minutes. As I deal mostly in differential equations, I obviously can't do this just by writing equations; but it can be done intuitively by using simple explanations, heuristic examples and sketches.

    I'm also a firm believer in the idea that students are meant to take notes in class. Writing information down in a note taking fashion forces the student to acknowledge the content being taught on some level. If nothing else, it reinforces what the lecture is saying. I know taking notes from a lectures that just dumps out information is difficult; but I believe them to be remarkably effective when paired with a teacher who conveys more in the way of intuition than statements of fact. The textbook is there to give the data... as a teacher you are meant to give the intuition to the student so they can sit down and understand that data. Forcing them to write down notes on their own will enable them to build a more solid connection with the intuition you are (hopefully) conveying.

    In the end, learning by rote is the lowest form of understanding. Next comes the ability to do problems that you are already acquainted with. After this level comes the ability to solve slightly new problems by combining methods you used to solve previous problems. After this level, one gets into various levels of intuition which enable one to solve completely new problems. I try to teach my students in the hopes that they are seeking at least this level of understanding. I wish more teachers would spend more time working on their lectures along these lines as opposed to spending so much time and money to make their lectures nothing more than a powerpoint presentation.

    I know this may come off

  53. This will cause flames, but it is the best advice. by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    This will cause flames, but it is the best advice.

    Since your TabletPC has 1GB of RAM and a very capable Intel 950 Video. The first thing you need to do is pick up a copy of Vista Ultimate or Premium. The pen and TabletPC support in Vista is years ahead of XP running TabletPC Windows. (You might want to upgrade to 2GB of RAM, even with XP the performance difference for TabletPCs is noticeable when it is doing voice or handwriting recognition.)

    Next get a copy of Office 2007 OneNote. It will be your new best friend for writing, preparing notes, animations, videos, web content and even doing math in the application as you write.

    It is like Windows Journal on crack, as you can even voice record your lectures and include a copy of the Audio and notes in standard web formats for you students to download or even OneNote formats if you want the audio and writing to be in sync for your users.

    Office 2007 Word also works well with properly formatting equations and converting hand notes to type forms without losing your equation or notation formats.

    Since you are a teacher, you can get the Education versions of all this software cheap, and just Vista and OneNote 2007 will transform what you are doing with your TabletPC into a whole new direction.

    Also check out the Microsoft Education software constucts and Forums. There are lots of bright people doing what you are wanting to do and will have been suggestions for other software specfic to what you are teaching than the answers you will find on SlashDot, as most people posting here couldn't even give you 5 changes between Vista with built in TabletPC features and XP TabletPC, as most here run from MS technology.

    Yes I know I will get flamed on this, but for Tablet technology MS is the 'best' provider of an OS and basic software that makes the technology shine and work effortlessly.

  54. Some, probably by Selanit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Obviously, adding technology to a classroom is not inherently beneficial. The mere presence of a bunch of transistors in the room will not improve the students' comprehension. But it's also a bit premature to dismiss it completely. Socrates strongly disliked the whole "marks on papyrus scrolls" technology which was cutting edge in his day -- which is why he never wrote anything down himself. We depend on his student Plato for our knowledge of Socrates' ideas. You and I, right now, are as close to the beginning of digital technology as Socrates was to the beginning of books.[1]

    Education takes place inside the student's skull. It's a process of acquiring new concepts, trying to understand them, and then use them. Usually education involves failing to grasp the concept a few times, and then "getting it." The job of the teacher is to introduce the concepts, and to create an environment where the student can try them out, get it wrong, and then get it right. Digital tech can probably help with both steps (introducing concepts, and creating the learning environment). So far a lot of the ways we've tried it have not worked very well -- PowerPoint is an excellent case in point. So PowerPoint isn't useful. Fine. That doesn't mean nothing will ever be useful. Let's try a whole bunch of approaches, scrap the ones that don't work well, and then try even more approaches.

    [1] The Egyptian and Mesopotamian cultures had been using written communication for a good long while before it reached the Greeks, of course; but Socrates was close to the beginning of books within his own culture.

    1. Re:Some, probably by Secret+Rabbit · · Score: 1

      You're assuming that people are writing down the ideas and explaining them properly. Are you sure that's a good assumption? Because empirical evidence and many studies say different. Basically, while Plato did explain things, pretty much everyone today doesn't.

      IMO, we should be preventing tech from entering the classroom until the high-school teachers actually understand what they're teaching and have the ability to teach it. Only then can we entertain this idea. Because, I know what's entering University today and it certainly tells a tale of a failed education system. If you doubt this, just look at the pass/fail ratio of a Linear Algebra service course. *Very* scary.

  55. The problem with powerpoint... by Moraelin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem with powerpoint slides is that someone recently figured out we're not made to read text off a slide and hear someone talk at the same time. We only have enough brain power for one, not for both. If you even try to -- and people instinctively will -- you'll go fuzzy brained and remember neither. So in effect showing powerpoint slides badly, can be in fact worse than not writing anything anywhere.

    Now they figured that out for management presentations, and why you come empty-headed from of a presentation you were actually interested in. But I can't come up with any argument as to why it would work better in schools. In fact, it might be outright scary. Using powerpoint instead of a blackboard may well be _the_ most destructive thing one can do.

    There are ways to use powerpoint well, like you'd use an overhead projector. E.g., to show charts, relevant illustrations, etc. E.g., in a biology class you could show a picture of a cell's structure as a slide instead of as an overhead projector foil. And leave people time to digest it, instead of forcing them to also take notes at the same time.

    But a substitute for a blackboard it ain't. On a blackboard:

    A) you're led to follow the current focus of attention, whatever word is currently being written. You don't just get a big word soup to get lost in and out of sync, you get to follow the cursor (hand with chalk) so to speak, at the same time you're hearing it. It works to reinforce what you hear, not to try to split your attention between two different texts.

    B) the teacher is only human too, and he too would have trouble if he tried speaking one thing while writing something completely different. So there's a self-reinforcing mechanism to hold prevent it from becoming an attention-splitting device. As a subcase, if he takes some time to explain why he did something to a formula, he won't already start writing the next one.

    C) it enforces _some_ structure, because a blackboard is all the space you can get at a time. Which also cuts back on distractions like flipping back and forth between charts. Which is a distraction. Everytime you go "hmm, this one we don't need.. next... nope, this one we'll learn next week... let's see the next one... nah, we don't need that... next... aha, here we are..." that's not just wasted time. That's a bunch of people who've either tried to read it fast and the next minutes will be busy figuring that out instead of what you say next, or (probably most) whose attention and focus went right out the window while you did that little powerpoint dance.

    D) well, I hate to be mean to teachers (God knows they have a shitty job already), but it forces them to prepare that material instead of just borrowing someone's slides. And if they didn't know it too well, they'll at least recap it while they write it on the blackboard.

    If you will, what I'm saying at points C an D is that I see it as the same as in IT: the better tools and languages we had, the more unqualified monkeys got hired to use them. I'm all for better tools and compilers, don't get me wrong. But in a lot of places the trend wasn't to do more with them, but to lower the baseline for the people hired to use them. And they'll feel the less of a need to learn what they're doing there. After all, the tool will do the thinking for them, right?

    The same might just happen in schools. I can see some people (e.g., substitute teachers) going into a class with someone else's powerpoint presentation, but barely knowing what it's about.

    Except in IT you have at least some reality check whether it worked or not. If it doesn't compile or doesn't run the test cases, you know you've screwed up. In teaching we might not even know it before we pump out a few generations of complete airheads, for no fault of their own. And for a change I don't mean just the dumb jocks and prom queens, because the powerpoint fuzzy-brain effect applies to nerds interested in that topic too.

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    1. Re:The problem with powerpoint... by gomiam · · Score: 1
      we're not made to read text off a slide and hear someone talk at the same time

      Then there's no difference between a horribly text-packed slide while being explained and a blackboard being quickly filled with text being explained at the same time. As a student I have been subjected to both. I actually had to learn to ask defensively, in order to stop the teacher's flow and give me time to understand what had been said and written. Even at the risk of sounding repetitive, there is no fundamental difference between a slide and a blackboard: there is only a different speed of filling it with text (or diagrams, or number or whatever). Both are tools to be used correctly.

      But a substitute for a blackboard it ain't. On a blackboard:

      A) you're led to follow the current focus of attention, whatever word is currently being written. You don't just get a big word soup to get lost in and out of sync, you get to follow the cursor (hand with chalk) so to speak, at the same time you're hearing it. It works to reinforce what you hear, not to try to split your attention between two different texts.

      Congratulations. Unfortunately, that isn't always true: I've seen such a split also happen while using blackboards, repeatedly.

      B) the teacher is only human too, and he too would have trouble if he tried speaking one thing while writing something completely different. So there's a self-reinforcing mechanism to hold prevent it from becoming an attention-splitting device. As a subcase, if he takes some time to explain why he did something to a formula, he won't already start writing the next one.

      Unless he explains each formula as he writes it and leaves the students little or no chance to ask if they got lost.

      C) it enforces _some_ structure, because a blackboard is all the space you can get at a time. Which also cuts back on distractions like flipping back and forth between charts. Which is a distraction. Everytime you go "hmm, this one we don't need.. next... nope, this one we'll learn next week... let's see the next one... nah, we don't need that... next... aha, here we are..." that's not just wasted time. That's a bunch of people who've either tried to read it fast and the next minutes will be busy figuring that out instead of what you say next, or (probably most) whose attention and focus went right out the window while you did that little powerpoint dance.

      Again, I disagree, a blackboard can be as structure-lacking as a slideshow: I have seen it. And jumping over slides shows that the teacher isn't working correctly. Blame the user, not the tool.

      D) well, I hate to be mean to teachers (God knows they have a shitty job already), but it forces them to prepare that material instead of just borrowing someone's slides. And if they didn't know it too well, they'll at least recap it while they write it on the blackboard.

      <sarcasm>Oh, perhaps now teachers don't "borrow" their courses' themes from pre-written books (at least in primary and secondary levels). That must explain why there are no coursebooks sales.</sarcasm> Seriously now, a lazy teacher having a slideshow or a blackboard to fill with text won't make much of a difference. I have had teachers reading from a book and hiding their doing so (I had the book, and I spent most of the course underlining the sentences the teacher read).

    2. Re:The problem with powerpoint... by Moraelin · · Score: 1

      Look, let's put it like this:

      1. I'm not saying that bad teachers didn't exist before. I'm saying that reliance on Powerpoint might just make it even worse.

      2. Yes, you can get such a split on a blackboard too, but it's not "natural" so to speak. Unless you're a bit schizophrenic or make a hell of an effort, it's not the natural reflex to think of two different things at the same time. Try writing the story of Snow White on a piece of paper while the words of your national anthem out loud, and you'll see for yourself how hard it can get.

      So on a blackboard you'll at the very least take a break from writing while you take the verbal detour.

      At any rate, most people won't even try causing such a split on a blackboard, because it's taxing on their own brains. You can do it, if you really try, but that's the point: you have to try. Most people just don't. Unless they're actually malicious or deranged, that is.

      With powerpoint it's just _natural_. I could present to you the summary of the US Independence War on slides, while telling you about Markov chains, without missing a beat. Ok, so most won't go to that kind of extremes, but more modest disconnects are actually commonplace.

      3. Can Powerpoint be used well? Yes. But given that even professionals get it wrong all the time, I wouldn't set my hopes that high that every single teacher in some small underfunded school will get it 100% right, 100% of the time. I'm not saying that teachers are dumb, I'm saying that they're humans too. If it's possible -- and in fact, very, very easy -- to get something wrong, they'll do the same as any other profession: get it wrong often enough to matter.

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    3. Re:The problem with powerpoint... by gomiam · · Score: 1
      1. I'm not saying that bad teachers didn't exist before. I'm saying that reliance on Powerpoint might just make it even worse.

      Yeah, that's true. The same happens in programming languages: having the correct mental discipline leads to making less errors, no matter the programming language. And yet there are error-prone programming languages and they are used successfully.

      2. Yes, you can get such a split on a blackboard too, but it's not "natural" so to speak. ... With powerpoint it's just _natural_. ... but more modest disconnects are actually commonplace.

      I don't find this type of splits natural in either case. And if such disconnects happen, it's understandable that the student gets confused. What is not understandable is that the student passively waits for everything to be explained: he can ask questions in order to solve that disconnect, and the teacher should be happy to answer those questions. If the teacher can't answer relevant questions about the subject he is teaching, he's doing a bad job anyway.

      3. Can Powerpoint be used well? Yes. But given that even professionals get it wrong all the time, I wouldn't set my hopes that high that every single teacher in some small underfunded school will get it 100% right, 100% of the time. I'm not saying that teachers are dumb, I'm saying that they're humans too. If it's possible -- and in fact, very, very easy -- to get something wrong, they'll do the same as any other profession: get it wrong often enough to matter.

      Ok, so we agree it's the teachers who have to evaluate whether they can use the tool or not. If they actually can't (and still keep using it) then they are acting stupidly by insisting on using it without the required learning. But this happens all over the place: if I don't know how to use the tool correctly, it is to be expected that I will get bad results with it. Of course, it is easier to blame the tool, since it can't talk back.

    4. Re:The problem with powerpoint... by Moraelin · · Score: 1

      Well, on the whole I guess we're not disagreeing too much then, except on one point: you seem to have more faith in the human species than I have.

      If I understand your point right, yes, someone with the correct mental discipline will be able to use even worse tools or languages right, and can critically evaluate a tool and discard it if it's not the right one. I can't disagree with that.

      Being the jaded cynic that I am, however, I'd question how many such people exist.

      A) I see people everyday lacking the mental discipline to use programming languages or tools right, and still making a living anyway. In fact, they got hired just because they were cheaper than someone who does. Will an underpaid, high-stress job like teaching get all the aces where some much higher paid job doesn't? Somehow I doubt it.

      B) In a lot of cases, using a tool isn't really based on an in-depth analysis. It can be driven by hype, laziness, pressure, or just following orders and using whatever management gave you. In some cases you don't even really have the knowledge to do the right evaluation, so you just go with the flow. Again, will the situation in schools be that much different from the rest of the world? Nope, I don't expect it to.

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    5. Re:The problem with powerpoint... by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      we're not made to read text off a slide and hear someone talk at the same time This is actually the interpretation of the study. The actual study only showed that using Powerpoint presentations interfered with learning the material being presented. The above quoted is merely a paraphrase of the researchers' attempt to explain the results of their study. Blackboards have been used in education for well over 100 years, thus it is a proven technology that helps learning. It is quite likely that many teachers do not use blackboards in the best manner, but the continued use indicates that it obviously works much of the time. I think that the original poster illustrates much of what has gone wrong in education in the last 50 or so years (although the OP may not actually be guilty of it himself). Every 10 or so years a new theory of education comes along and it is mass adopted by the majority of educators (sometimes there are two or more competing new ideas that the overwhelming majority of educators divide up among). This/these new idea(s) are implemented on a wide scale replacing whatever methodology was used before. The problem with this system is it takes no less than 12 years and quite possibly as many as 30 years to truly understand the outcomes of any new effective education methodology. But we don't wait that long to implement the new idea. A new idea comes along and is quickly spread through much of the education system in 5 to 10 years, becoming fully implemented right about the time that its shortcomings become apparent.
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    6. Re:The problem with powerpoint... by gomiam · · Score: 1
      Blackboards have been used in education for well over 100 years, thus it is a proven technology that helps learning.

      Yes, blackboards are good tools when correctly used. Please provide reference to that study on Powerpoint presentations. Slide shows have been used for well over 40 years, perhaps they aren't such a bad idea.

    7. Re:The problem with powerpoint... by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 2, Informative

      It was referenced here on slashdot http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/04/131924 7

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    8. Re:The problem with powerpoint... by gomiam · · Score: 1
      I still can't find a paper about it through that link. And reading the UNSW article doesn't make anything much clearer either: they apply Cognitive Load Theory to support their statement that making people solve problems requires time, which is true, but is not the point we are debating. They also state that getting the same information through sight and hearing _can_ be counterproductive. That just means someone preparing a presentation must take care of doing it right: the information on the slide and the verbal information must complement each other.

      I may have no college degree on making presentations, but I can usually tell when one won't work. It's all about compactness: the slides must show the basic concepts in as few words as possible so the audience can tune the slide out in the time the speaker needs to mention each concept and then pay attention to what the speaker says. It's all about the KISS principle. What's the difference between that and having the teacher write the concepts on the blackboard and then start talking about them? Little to none: I would actually posit using slides is more efficient.

  56. Sometimes there is truth in marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LemonLINK.

    Great name, ain't it? It describes the nyetwork pretty accurately.

    Par for the course for a district who named this guy Teacher of the Year.

    My wife is pretty happy to be out of there...

  57. teach WHY people should study Algebra by Simonetta · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hello,
        You have the misfortune of being a high school teacher. You are probably very limited in what you can actually teach because the course work must be all rigidly defined, especially now in the era on 'No Child Left Behind' and the federally enforced overemphasis on testing.

        You have the additional misfortune of being a teacher of a subject that all students must master to get their HS diploma but less than 1% will ever use in their future lives. I work on the margin of the tech industry and I've used high school algebra only once in thirty years. Had to sit through hundreds of hours of classes in it and hundreds of hours of homework which for me was like carving concrete with a teaspoon.

        For algebra (assuming for the sake of argument that it is worth learning), the best tool would be any program that allows the students to move the terms around the equation by clicking, highlighting, and dragging. Then the software should let them know if the resulting equation is equal to the original one. And if not, why not. Also, software that puts simple values into the x and y variables and quickly lets them know whether the equation balances or not. Plus an animated tutor program that shows the steps for solving complex equations. A program with hundreds of solved examples, not just two or three solved examples.

        For calculus, I recommend bringing a dog, a thermometer, and a gun to class. Shoot the dog and put the thermometer into it. Take readings over the next few hours to show how the heat loss of a recent corpse follows a specific natural log curve and how forensic pathologists use these formulas to determine time of death.

        For logarhythms, measure the distances between the frets of an electric guitar to show how each distance is 2 raised to the 1/12 power from the previous fret and how this formula makes possible tuned scales.

        If any of these things work, then consider getting a television show to teach math through iPod instead of in a public school.

    1. Re:teach WHY people should study Algebra by tubegeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't shoot dogs. Dogs are great.

  58. BBFlashback by jmcurran · · Score: 1

    I use a programme called BBFlashback Blueberry Software. It records everything that happens on the screen and your voice. My students find this very useful because they can listen to the lesson over and over again in case they missed it the first time. It's also useful for adult students who have jobs and cannot make every class. You have a variety of playback options. We use Flash which plays in the students' browsers once they've installed the plugin.

  59. Effective Use of Technology In the Classroom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does blinding disrupting students with a laser pointer count?

  60. risks and benefits by e**(i+pi)-1 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    > Would you please share how you have seen technology effectively used for Math and Physics.

    I'm both enthusiastic as well as sceptical (and wrote and talked about it [PDF]). Here are some major points for me:
    • Using technology is like telling jokes. Some people can deliver, other better do not.
    • Teaching is complex. Not everybody can handle the additional challenge of technology additionally to the organisatorial and pedagogical parameters. Most of us have experienced bad use of technology. I certainly have produced disasters myself.
    • It is often not the technology which produces the failures but the lack of a backup plan. Technology often fails. The advantage of the "good ol blackboard" is that it always works. Even white-boards fail when markers are dry.
    • Overuse of technology is like dishing up the same meals again and again. The benefits of technology can wear off, if the novelty is gone.
    • I use the rule of thumb: technology can improve a lecture by 20 percent, but adds the risk to losing 80 percent. This risk makes the use of technology exciting and worthwile.
  61. Use as little technology as you can by Ichoran · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The key to using technology effectively is to not think about the technology. Think about how to convey information to students. How long does it really take for a concept to sink in? Actually doing math or physics is a skill; it takes practice (i.e. homework), and it is a process not an answer. If you can use technology to show the process in action at a speed at which students can absorb it, you are using technology well.

    Never use technology to avoid taking time to write something. Guess what? If you don't write it, they don't have time to either. And if you provide notes, then they won't even take the time to listen--why bother, your students will think, when I can just read the notes?

    What you want to do is take them through the process, slowly, with examples, showing how to do the manipulations and explaining why at each stage a decision is made. (If you have to deal with moderate numbers of students who no longer remember how to do algebra--and you almost certainly will--you may need to elect to leave them behind; if you have huge numbers of such students, you'd better go through how to do algebra again!)

    Here's one way that I've used a tablet to be helpful. You can start with a well-designed picture or graph, then draw all over it while you're explaining a concept. You can show a short movie of an interesting phenomenon, then dissect the process, e.g. by taking out frames and scribbling equations on them.

    One big mistake that people make is thinking either that computers are useless and shouldn't be used for homework, or in thinking that the fundamentals are useless and you should just teach people to do derivatives with Mathematica. It's a waste of time for almost everyone to do math by hand these days if they have access to a symbolic package. But they had better understand _exactly_ how the operations work and under what conditions they fail, or they're liable to have the symbolic package perform nonsense.

    Unfortunately, the biggest problem with teaching is that students don't come in with the right background. And a tablet can't fix that.

        --Rex

    1. Re: Use as little technology as you can by danilo.moret · · Score: 1

      I'd change it to "Use as little technology as you need". So, use only as much technology as needed to improve learning.

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  62. The learning pyramid by Colin+Smith · · Score: 1

    http://lowery.tamu.edu/Teaming/Morgan1/sld023.htm

    See if technology will allow you to move down the pyramid.

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  63. the best technology ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From what I've seen, best presenters, when presenting to a limited number of people in the room, use flip charts when possible. Which means they draw their stuff on paper as they speak rather than show Power Point slides. This is not without a reason.

    Same, I think, should be applied to teaching.

    Your drawing is more characteristic than a sleek Power Point presentation. And it's more "real", too - you flip back to a previous picture and enhance it with new details, so your students see and feel the progress. And the process of somebody drawing engages people more than flipping through a set of slides.

    Presenting - and teaching for sure - is about engaging people's minds and imagination, rather than feeding them information. Incomplete and simplified sketches engage imagination and summon understanding much better than finely animated examples generated by computer - because the gaps in your sketches make students' minds work where smooth and correct animation just creates a false feeling of understanding.

    If you're to speak to a large audience you'll have to use a projector. That's why best classes are kept small.

    Regards,
    Alexander

  64. Mod Parent Up by Eivind+Eklund · · Score: 1

    Very funny presentation!

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  65. 2 cents by __aapspi39 · · Score: 1

    http://interactiveresources.co.uk/ are pretty damm good, and designed with tablets/whiteboards etc in mind. their products are probably a bit junior for what you have in mind though.

  66. Google Powerful ideas in the classroom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is quite a lot of cool projects in that book

  67. Mathematical handwriting recognition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With the tablet you could use something like

    http://jequation.sourceforge.net/

    to write handouts for your students.

  68. Applets... by itsdapead · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The http://www.fi.uu.nl/wisweb/en/">Freudenthal institute have a large collection of java applets for secondary/high school education. There's lots of others out there too.

    Spreadsheets also have enormous potential for teaching algebra concepts - particularly for getting over the idea of variables and functional relationships (after solving pages of simple "if x + 5 = 7 what is x?" equations, kids often get hung up on the notion that "x" is always a specific number...) Set up simple formulae in a spreadsheet, hide the formulae and have the kids reverse-engineer the formula... [1] Although a web browser might let you download a few :-)

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  69. Some Thoughts, and Some Software by Dr.+Faustroll · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Congratulations: you've got some of the potentially most interesting classes to use technology in - but that potential will be wasted if you just use the tablet and projector to show Powerpoint slides.

    When you're designing your class, think: what can the tablet do that would be useful that could not have been done without it. Powerpoint fails this test miserably - an overhead projector would do just as well.

    Here are some possible uses that do pass the test:

    • Use symbolic math software to help students visualize the math, and to explore interesting problems that cannot be handled without it. Mathematica is everybody's pet favorite, of course - but I would argue that it's grotesquely overpowered and complex for most of what you'll need. Instead, take a look at something like Ron Avitzur's Graphing Calculator - the name doesn't do justice to what is a particularly elegant little program.
    • For Physics, use the tablet to analyze physical data. One of the best uses here is to film objects in motion, then transfer the video to the tablet (or get a cheap webcam and record directly on the tablet), and analyze the results frame-by-frame - your students will come out with a much better understanding of motion. A free package for video analysis is Physmo.
    • For more sophisticated experiments, check out what the folks at PASCO have to offer - their sensors are reasonably inexpensive.
    • If you do a Google search, you'll find a wealth of Java applets that simulate concepts in Physics - when contextualized by discussion, physical experiments, and "what if" explorations, these can be tremendously useful. Without this framework, though, they are no better than the film loops of old.

    One last suggestion: don't hog the tablet - let your students use it too. You can set up a problem, and invite students to come up and work through it individually or in groups, showing their thought process to the rest of the class. The students will learn much more, and everybody - including you - will have a lot more fun.

    Good luck!

  70. Chalk by Upaut · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My best professor, and by "best" I mean I actually learned the most from him then from a textbook, and keep the knowledge today, did not even use a whiteboard. He used white (or yellow) chalk on a blackboard. It was how he did it that mattered.

    * Come into class, place yesterdays work in front of him, sit down, copy the blackboard into your notebook. You have five minutes so write fast.

    *Professor flips the board. Five minutes starting now.

    *Spend the rest of the class discussing and explaining the facts in great depth. Professor points at someone every other minute and asks a question on the material. Asks hard questions. If you can't keep up in notes, you had better ask someone to copy, because he will not slow down. If you can't keep up in the critical thinking portion, get the hell out and accept a fail.

    * Professor handed out copies of that nights questions, due at the beginning of the next class.


    I was blessed to have that man's class twice in my life. Once in high school, the other in my junior year of college. I tell you, it was that man's pep that kept us awake and going, and his zest for the subject. It was highly infectious.

    And as for a textbook in that class? He thought that the point of the class was half facts, half how to think with the facts... He was the textbook. At the start of the first class, when he explained how each class was going to be until the end, he gave all of us a list of books on the subject we could read. Each one was a fantastic read, not a dull one among them.

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  71. Ahemmm... by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 1

    Well powerpoint is the only thing usefull, my teachers ever used.
    • Review this information about use of commas as punctuation
    • Consult a dictionary for the correct spelling of 'useful'
    • See you tomorrow!
    Allow me to shamelessly mutilate a famous Adam Savage quote:
    I redject yer sbelling and zubstitude my ovn....
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  72. Record your teaching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use a tool such as ProfCast (profcast.com) to record your lectures for students to review afterwards. It's an easy way to provide students with a review of your instruction which allows them to focus on your lesson during class (as opposed to focussing on trying to transcribe what you just said). ProfCast records audio and then stitches the slides to the audio and uses the slide titles for chapter markers. It's actually pretty slick.

  73. Use with caution! by dyftm · · Score: 1

    Please, use this tech with caution. I've sat through calculus classes where the teacher has just got an interactive whiteboard. She rushed through presentations, annotating the slides and moving on so quickly there was no chance to take any notes. The other less obvious issue in a matrices class was that frequently if we had trouble visualising a transformation, she would quickly bring it up on the whiteboard using graphing software. This meant in the exam, when we had no access to this software, we found we hadn't had enough practice of just sitting there and working it out.

    I'm sure there are some very good uses, although I've found myself very skeptical. My advice as a student would be to use this tech as a more convenient way of doing exactly what you were doing before - writing up notes on the board, displaying pictures/graphs, showing videos. Don't use tech for the sake of tech.

  74. Good old fashioned technology by DavidApi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Chalk and board. Plus some props to demonstrate stuff. Seriously, computers don't _really_ help students really understand stuff.

    Physics? Nothing beats a good 'ol number of balls, rods, ramps, tubes etc etc in demonstrating how stuff works. Watching virtual cars colliding on the screen doesn't really make students appreciate the nature of momentum and conservation of energy.
    Chemistry? How does using some 3D software showing off molecules really compare to a good 'ol titration in the lab?
    Biology? Disecting a rat just beats reading about rat morphology any day.
    Mathematics? Take the students down to the beach and measure waves. Their height, period, variation in shape, speed etc.

    Computers and other technology is useful for analysing and summarising the data, but get the students out of the classroom to gather the data.

  75. Math Connections by sternmath · · Score: 1

    Sometimes students benefit from visually seeing the connections between different mathematical representations of the concepts they're learning. A good interactive geometry program can help there. Lots of teachers use Geometer's Sketchpad (by KeyPress) or Cabri (by CabriLog). If the kids are also using graphing calculators, like the TI-84+, see if you can get your school to spring for a TI-Navigator system to let you get information back and forth on the fly.

  76. Beware of technology by TheJasper · · Score: 1

    For most physics and math there is no 'technology' that is going to be anything but distracting unless you can make its use transparent. Obviously I'm not talking about the apparatus required to de experiments or demonstrations, I'm talking support tech. Sure slides are great, though I'd use slides and the blackboard (since you never know what people will ask). Sure, you can use the web for making assignmetns available. What you don't want is a song and dance show, you want to teach not entertain.

    What worries me most about tech in the classroom is that it can actually take away from learning. I was in the last class in my high school that wasn't allowed programmable calculators during exams. wtf? Simple calculator may be fine, but doing math or physics isn't about plugging numbers into an equation. If you don't understand what the equations mean you got nothing. So what is learned by letting you calculator do the work?

    Ok, my math teacher used to let me write programs to do my homework, mostly because he knew that I'd be learning the formulas adn principles. Nowadays you'd be asking kids to google 'calculus package' rather than having them actually learn what to do. Unless you plan on checking their code. So yes, computers could be usefull, but only if it makes people do the work.

    I would go so far to say that banning tech from the classroom might even be best. Basic math and physics (and indeed advanced math and physics as well up to a point) require no tech. Give those kids a clay tablet and get them thinking.

    Mind you this applies to math and physics (and arguably chemistry or even biology). In any case it applies to exact subjects. If you're teaching sports I'd suggest some of those sentry robots they built in Korea.

  77. Mathematica by Nursie · · Score: 1

    Assuming you're teaching a maths/science class.

    Use mathematica to display graphs, mutable by parameters input in various fields etc.

    It's a very good visual tool.

  78. Effective use of techhnology in the classroom by Don+Philip · · Score: 1
    The first thing you should do is to read Jonassen's excellent book, Computers in the Classroom: Mind tools for critical thinking. He details what effective use of technology in the classroom should look like, and gives suggestions as to hardware and software. WHile, with a single laptop, you can do more effective presentations and search the web for demonstrations, etc., perhaps the best thing you could do is to model effective computer use for your students. Another factor here is the computer facilities available to your students. What are they? How can they be used, etc.? Jonassen suggests the following criteria for judging whether a piece of software is going to be really effective:
    • Knowledge representation. The program should be able to be used to represent knowledge in some way;
    • Generalizable. The program should be usable in different content or subject areas;
    • Critical thinking. These applications should engage students in critical thinking;
    • Transferable learning. The skills learned using Mindtools should transfer to thinking in various different fields;
    • Simple, powerful formalism. Mindtools should support simple but deep and powerful ways of thinking; and
    • Easily learnable. The mental benefit deriving from the use of the program should not be greater than the effort required to learn it.
    On a very practical note for physics, various companies (Vernier Software and Technology (www.vernier.com) for example-I've used these in my chemistry and biology classes) offer a range of probes that can be used to effectively measure data of various kinds. These can provide a great resource for students to design their own experiments, and a single probe/computer set-up can do an entire class if used properly.

    Reference: Jonassen, D., Computers in the Classroom. Mind tools for critical thinking. 1996, New Jersey: Prentice Hall.

  79. Re:This will cause flames, but it is the best advi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OH, PLEEEEEASE...M$ idiot fanboy...

    As a high school teacher who used linux exclusively during the past 5 years in computer, English as a second language and science classes, linux is LIGHT-YEARS ahead of any M$ junk. For starters, they can take the software home, ALL of it, and use it at home! That's a biggie but only the beginning...the learning potential is basically unlimited. Explore whatever you wish, including the software, experiment...change it! :-)

    M$ is the MacDonald's of the computer world...mass produced junk of low quality, constantly breaking down so you need to buy yet another 'update', virus package, maintenance agreement, expensive service contract, etc. and all the same (just constant, never-ending excuses/scams to get into your wallet). Linux is the customized, gourmet, hand-built Rolls Royce of the software (and EDUCATION) fields of the world.

    Get with the program :-)

  80. Knickers to Clickers by edittard · · Score: 1

    This sounds like something for testing, not teaching.

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  82. Resolution of a projector by emj · · Score: 1

    You can't ever beat a blackboard, all you can do with a projector is doodling and painting since yourt pixels are 0.5cm across.

  83. Maybe some simulation tools? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi,

    I could imagine some simulation tools could be usefull. Take a look at http://cniehaus.livejournal.com/41381.html, for example. It demonstrates the possiblilies offered by Step (http://edu.kde.org/step/), the new KDE physics simulator.

  84. Effective Use of Technology in the Classroom by ParentTechVol · · Score: 1

    Let's keep the issue of your tablet and projector aside for a minute and discuss basics. As a parent technology volunteer in my child's elementary school, we did several things that showed how technology could be used effectively in the classroom and I believe our experience could apply equally well to the high school math/physics scenario in which you're interested. First, we used Open Source software and a thin client architecture using K12LTSP to drastically increase the number of computers in each class at very low cost, and increased the speed of the Internet connection via a cable modem (the district feed was dialup speed at best). This meant that teachers could put enough safe-for-Internet use computers in front of the kids that they could do inquiry-based research/learning in science, and could also learn and practice math on various educational web sites, with the teachers only needing to help students with specific issues they ran into. It led to substantial increases in productivity and speed of acquiring new knowledge, especially in project/research report applications. So I believe the most important use of technology in the classroom is to bring the interactive knowledge of the world into the classroom for the students to use, and enable students to learn how to discover knowledge on their own, making them lifelong learners. Based on this, my recommendation for the best use of your projector is to get your PTA to fund a Linux server and enough thin clients for at least a 3:1 student to PC ratio. This will only cost about $500 for a server powerful enough for 5-7 thin clients, and the clients are only about $150 each (w/o monitors). You can also do it with a donated server and clients, the server should be a P4/1Gig RAM and the clients can be quite old, PII/300 MHz/128 MB RAM. I'm guessing if someone had the money to fund a tablet PC and a projector, they should be able to get another $1400 or so to leverage those devices and put the technology in the hands of the students where it will do the most good. With K12LTSP, you can connect the server to the projector and using TeacherTool, anyone from the teacher to any student on any PC can take over the display and explain their ideas to the rest of the class using Open Office (Writer, Impress, Calc, etc.). I agree 100% with the comments about hands on physics and math being critical, but once they do the hands on work, this gives them a vehicle for documenting their work as well as presenting and defending it to the rest of the class. For the tablet itself, its real benefit is mobility and a pen based input, so I'd focus on using it in data gathering when on science outings, doing experiments in the hallway/gym, etc, and as another poster has noted, for display of lecture slides/notes that you annotate in class as you see which concepts need more info. But if you upgrade it to Vista or the newest MS Office, you'll have to save files in the older Office format to be able to read them on the thin clients using OpenOffice, as well as for students to use them at home on their PCs. And you'll need whatever annotation program you use to be able to save files in a format that can be read by OpenOffice and older versions of MS Office to be maximally beneficial.

  85. Sounds like a good wandering point. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well I disagree with your premise that technology is one way. It's used that way most of the time, but that's not the fault of the technology. Anyway a electronic interactive board not only could accept the equations in question, it could manipulate them, and expand upon them (3D charts and graphs, animations, etc)*. Add tablets for each student and wireless communications and you can have the student illustrate for everyone we're they're having difficulty. In other words the problem with technology is the implimentation. You can't just throw it into a situation, you have to be imaginative with it. Play to it's strength, and the strengths of the students (remember different people, different ways of learning)

    *Access to a electronic library for both students and teachers means one could pull up the history of all the great mathmaticians. The ONLY thing one has to worry about when dealing with technology is keeping things on track (the point of the lesson), and not get overwhelmed in information (says the guy speaking from experience)

  86. Combine physical classroom with tech! by Bassism · · Score: 1

    I had a physics teacher in high school who used technology with great success. The key is, as others have said, to know where the place of the technology is and not to overdo it.

    There is a program called Interactive Physics which is a great way to teach some more complex concepts in force and motion. You can set up experiments in the simulator that would be impossible to replicate in the classroom. If it's possible to get more computers for students to use, ask the students to set up a particular scenario. The best way to learn how a free weight system with forces acting in different directions is going to behave is to set it up yourself.

    Even better was the use of Vernier's Logger Pro software with their hardware probes. There are probes for motion, force, temperature, and who knows what else. Using this software you can set up a real physical experiment in the classroom and couple it with completely precise computer measurement tools. That way you can perform the experiment in the classroom, and have the data collected and graphed in real time to analyze immediately after.

    Don't let all these naysayers discourage you from finding good uses of technology in your classroom. I know from personal experience that it's more than possible to effectively use technology in the classroom. Good luck in exploring what is possible.

  87. Cost of equipment by whovian · · Score: 1

    The science teachers I know (~60 or so) would really love to bring more computer-based technology (computers) into the classroom to aid in presenting material. The problem is that the budgets of school districts, in particular rural school districts, have no means for providing overhead projectors, although those districts typically have provided for one basic computer per classroom. For the teachers to have a laptop to use for simply syllabus development, they typically have to buy their own laptop.

    What would be really a god-send IMO as far as equipment goes would be more donations to schools. Perhaps some of our US-based computer manufacturers could see a way to help ?

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    1. Re:Cost of equipment by ParentTechVol · · Score: 1

      Please see my post a few minutes ago. With K12LTSP (Free Open Source Software) and donated PCs (one server and 5-7 old PIIs) you can outfit a classroom with 3:1 student to PC ratio as cheaply as the cost to upgrade the donated server (say a few hundred for more RAM/faster HDD). Limiting the number of clients to 7 means you can use older 100 Mbps switches instead of the newer Gbps switches required when more than 7 clients hang off a single server. This approach transformed our classrooms and obviated the need for the computer lab for most use cases. Kid's used the PCs all day long for research, creative writing, math practice, etc. With TeacherTool (FOSS) you can do most of the things you do with a projector, but the display is sent to each student PC instead of to a projector. It is absolutely the most cost effective way to put technology in the hands of teachers and students that I have ever seen. See more on our story at http://www.morrisbrandon.com/ and click on the Technology link.

  88. Sounds like a good tipping point. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I suspect some of you are suffering from lack of imagination (not your fault). Teaching isn't just a passive experinece, nor is it even a limited two-way. It can be a full sense experince, but we don't have the two things needed. One the proper implimentation of technology. Two teachers who are master manipulators (in a good sense). So you don't have the technology overwhelming the point of the lesson in the first place. I see tools for just the teachers that allow them to organize and clarify the information they have to teach, so when they do get in front of students, they're better propared.

  89. Don't by happyguy · · Score: 1

    Part of me is screaming out don't do it, it is very rare that I see technology successfully implemented in the classroom, many teachers appear to use it merely for the sake of it, often utilizing power point and then just reading off of the slide, it may seem like a good idea at first however, their's no point in using technology just for its own sake, and more often than not it does nothing to improve a lesson, and in reality often has a negative effect, as such think long and hard before trying it, and only use it as an accessory not as the lesson itself.

  90. Go the other way by Sir+Holo · · Score: 1

    Science and chemistry are best taught with simple devices, hands-on.

    springs, air cars, tennis balls, timers, rulers, bicycle wheels.

    beakers, scales, water, eyedroppers.

    Otherwise, the students will never get the feel for looking at the world with a critical eye. Your job is to make it real and accessible.

  91. YES YES YES by mrkrules · · Score: 1

    Thank you for this example!!!

    Instead of JUST going old school like some people have said, you should use hands-on WITH relevance! The biggest piece here is relevance. Technology is never just the answer. You need hands-on and relevance. I teach at a Career Center for high schoolers. We integrate academics into our curriculum, and our kids get it. I specifically teach in a technology class (basic computers, web design, programming, etc.) -- I am in the beginning of creating a game programming section that will incorporate math and physics. I think our kids will understand both subjects better with this use of technology, but mainly because it is relevant to their interest/skills.

    Make it relevant to their interests, skills, lives, job aspirations, etc.

    If the kids love cars, teach physics with emphasis on cars. If they are all on the basketball team, use basketball as the practical applications.

    Most of us on this website can learn by reading and doing it ourselves... MANY students can NOT learn this way -- they need hands-on and relevant!

    NEVER JUST LECTURE!!! -- college professors showed us many ways as to NOT teach. -- remember, they are masters in their field of study, not teaching.

    1. Re:YES YES YES by SoulRider · · Score: 1

      A great teacher I once knew said "A good student learns in spite of his teacher."

  92. Same position by rpillala · · Score: 1

    I just got an interactive whiteboard for my room, and I've been looking around for useful animations for the kids. Classzone has a number of these, you just have to select the right textbook. I'm teaching in Maryland with the "Algebra 2 2007" book. If you choose a different book, you may wind up with the older version of their site. That's just a bunch of PDF's of the supplemental workbooks. Animations of concepts are the way to go I think. This is especially true when kids can manipulate the process themselves. Classzone has these in Shockwave format. There's one for slope where you can move either of two points on a 2d line, and the slope computation appears, the rise and run are shown, the line is redrawn, etc. You could certainly do the same lesson with a chalkboard or overhead projector but for visual learners, seeing the change will make a big difference. That's my hope anyway.

    The best approach seems to be like one of the other posters said: don't think of it as "what can I present with a projector," instead think of it as "what can I do to present Chain Rule interactively?" Also, please do avoid powerpoints. One of the other teachers in my building has written a series of powerpoints and just stands at the board flipping pages. Make sure you have kids using the new system and thinking about ways it can help them. For example, being able to enlarge, recolor, print, etc your handwritten notes can be a boon for students with certain special needs.

    Some of the other posters in this thread are talking about the larger issue of technology in classrooms. That's fine and all, but I didn't ask for this interactive whiteboard. Now that I have it, I'm trying to make it worthwhile for the kids. Often that's as much control over the larger issues as teachers have.

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  93. Nice question; some ideas-The beat goes on. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "As a physics professor, I often find myself asking the same kind of question. Sadly, I'm way behind you with your tablet and wireless projector, but you are definitely inspiring me with that kind of gear."

    It's inspiring although I don't see one particular issue being addressed. How is the way different people learning in different ways being addressed? Not I'm NOT talking about technology, for my question applies as much to the old-fashion methods some of you grew up with. It's not a no-child-left-behind issues, so much as it is try-to-leave-as-few-behind-as-possible. And I can assure you ignoring our differences is the best route to being left behind.

    BTW I'll stick this here since I forgot to mention it before. Teachers need to have some of the same qualities as a good storyteller. I also see teaching much like security as a process not a result. Where's the rest of the team? Were are the grand ideas for them? No one expects the teacher to do it all by themselves? From kindergarden to University. Where's the process?

  94. Here's a wonderful read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a book, "Silicon Snakeoil", by Clifford Stoll, that is an excellent commentary on the use of technology in education. Bottom line: What students learn best from and remember most about school isn't the technology--it's a competent, inspiring teacher.

  95. Ways to ignore the learning types. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think the point he's making is that he's a kinesthetic learner. It's not about memorizing the equations. I've already asked and I'll make the point again. You have to take different learning styles into account. Also on that page there's the point about multiple intelligences. IMHO I think the whole education process is in the dark ages, technology isn't going to change that, but a better understanding of people and how to use that to further the goal of "how to educate" would go a long way.

  96. Smart boards by zorog · · Score: 1

    I've had a chance to play with a interactive whiteboard i think it was from these people...
    They have just done done a study into many different brands for use in schools in NSW, Australia. I'll post more when i get to work, I haven't had a chance to read the report yet.
    more here

  97. Combine old and new by Mach5 · · Score: 1

    You should combine the old style of writing things on a blackboard, with this new tablet technology. Instead of using the blackboard, use that color screen to better draw out problems. As your board is effectively now infinitely big, not only can you better draw out processes and problems, you can save the file and make it available to your students.

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  98. "Calculus, The Musical" by peter303 · · Score: 1

    I saw a a piece of experimental theater at Boulder Colorado last week called "Calculus, the musical". It has about a dozen songs and music videos sung by a man and women and progress through the chapters of a first Calc course. They play various characters such as Newton, Liebnitz and Hooke. It was amusing and good. They are doing cities too.

    1. Re:"Calculus, The Musical" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The man was a former student of mine, and while I can take no credit for his success, I am still proud as hell of him. He was, as you can guess, quite the mischevious one in college.

  99. A Good Dark Dry Erace Marker by The+-e**(i*pi) · · Score: 0

    Nothing beats a good dark Black, Blue, or BRIGHT Red dry erase marker and a teacher that knows what they are doing.
    Never use Green, yellow, purple, lt blue... and Most Importantly always make sure to know enough about what is being taught where you are not just copying from notes, use your notes for help if you get stuck, and get a good eraser so the board dosen't get all grimy. Thick paper towels work great for erasers because you can dispose of them when they are all full of fibers so the board stays white. Second Most importantly, pick the tallest kid in class and draw a line across the board at his sitting height so everyone can see the whole of what you are writing. Pick a UNIQUE way to write each letter and stick with it so what you write is easier to read.

    Technology should only be used when you absolutely Must use it, which is never for the classes you are teaching, but if you are extremely bad at drawing accurate graphs (I have yet to meet a math teacher remotely good at drawing even straight lines) then you should use technology to help with visualizing the graph when a hand drawn one is not good enough. If you are teaching in college, whee you do not have 3/4 of the time in class to waste, stick with the white board because it will save time.

    In my experiences, Technology is great in Homework because theres no assignments to loose, and there will be virtually zero cheating because all the questions can be different but use the same concepts and be graded by a computer. My school uses WebAssign that has other anti-cheating features and the automatic grading stuff. With written homework, the students that don't understand will cheat so they don't lower their grade, and you are free to do whatever you want, punish, or help the people that are struggling. You can wither get them kicked out, or force them to meet with you or the ta to find out why they aren't doing the homework and act appropriately, but remember some students will do anything, lie cheat, steal, bully... to not do homework. There are some students like me who know the stuff already and it is painful to go through all the steps again, and some that just don't get it and need help, not all the people who don't do homework are bad students or bad people.

    This comes from a student that just finished most of the Math I will have to take. I have taken 2 similar versions Calculus III, one in high school and one in college, College Discrete Math, 2 Beginning Stats courses: High school(2 college semesters worth of knowledge in high school, and the college one which was a nice repeat of the first semester of high school, and all thats left I think is more differential equations. So I have had it taught both ways (technology, and white board) for the same class (they wouldn't pass me out cause of different topics chosen)

    and my pet peeve is when I figures out how to do a like 10 step problem in one easy step and am not allowed to, let them if they can half-ass explain themselves. ie. Use matrices to solve chemical equations or any electrical circuit with resistors, batteries, voltage controlled current sources, current controlled voltage sources.. , and I found an easy way to do dome vector problems by adding a first step: check if point is in plant before finding distance and in my book we did at least 2 or 3 where it was 0, along with other stuff.

  100. Luddite before the renaissance man. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I agree wholeheartedly. Programmers and tech types often see a cool technology, and try to figure out "how can I use this?""

    I should think so. How else is it going to be useful?

    "While there are cases where this works (R&D labs, etc.)"

    I'm sorry, I don't see why it applies only to one and not the other. What is different about the two?

    "in the case where you have a specific problem/job (teaching), then figure out how to teach best, using tools where appropriate."

    I don't think anyone's advocating a singular solution to the education process.* I think a more well rounded soution will take all types into account. That by implication means different tools some being used together.

    *BTW Teaching is multiple problems, not one. That's why it's hard, and we're having this discussion.

  101. Powerpoint is crap, use web activities by vegipowrd · · Score: 1

    Yes, hands-on is one of the few ways that a tech solution is better. You can get tons of activities out of a room full of computers, while you would otherwise spend thousands of dollars per activity. This fact may not matter to Universities, but to High Schools it's a HUGE deal. Many of the best things around now are web-based, so you can grab a bunch of machines your school is getting rid of, put Xubuntu on them (so you won't have to worry about Windows 2000 bugs) and get going for free. I've used U of Colorado's Phyiscs Education Technology site with groups of honors university students and 6th graders. It works well with both. The guys who made the site even claim that in some situations, students learn more content using controlled, well designed web-based activities that students can show off at home than they would using a bunch of rusty old crap that was donated in the 60s.

  102. Animating ADD. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I know this blows the doors off for some people, but -- believe it or not -- there are more than one style of learning,and the one you use does not, by itself, make you superior or inferior at thinking."

    Sounds like you read the same link I did. I also chose that link because it illustrates another factor that needs to be taken into account when teaching. Things like ADD for example. As one of them I've felt profoundly the consequences all through my adult years even if I no longer have it as bad as before.

  103. A Digital Camera Works for Me by frohro · · Score: 1
    I like it when professors hand out notes, but I have a hard time making notes and then following them, so I use a digital camera to photograph the whiteboard or blackboard. I developed software to process those photos for presentation on the web. On the web pages the photos are also made available in a pdf handout that is generated from them. You can see some of my notes at:

    http://www.wallawalla.edu/frohro/ClassNotes

    and a dated version of some of the software used to process the photos is available here:

    http://www.wallawalla.edu/frohro/SaveMyWhiteboard/

    My students like having the notes available, because if they are having a difficult time understanding, they can drop their pencils, concentrate on the lecture, and possibly ask questions until they understand without giving up the notes they aren't taking. :-)

    The notes allow me to review last day's lecture quickly (using the laptop and projector) to bring everyone up to speed. I find answering students questions is a lot easier now, as I can use the notes instead of having to recreate them for every student. It takes me about 3 minutes a day to process the photos, but it saves me hours every week.

    Rob

  104. Re:Resolution of a tablet by Joce640k · · Score: 1

    Multiply this by the lack of precision in the tablet and it'll be mostly illegible.

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  105. College Prof. by dostert · · Score: 1

    I'm a college professor in mathematics. I've had to teach in rooms with absolutely no technology and in others with tablet PCs linked to a projector. I have to say that I enjoy the tablet PCs much more.

    I generally do the same thing no matter what. I prepare all of my lectures electronically using latex (and prosper). Powerpoint equations just don't look right to me, but use that if you'd like. I prepare definitions and examples, but no solutions to the examples. If I'm in an electronic classroom, then I leave room in the lecture to do the examples underneath. I upload all of my lectures, but NOT with the solutions to the examples done underneath (You have no idea how annoying it is to have someone come and ask you how you did the steps to a problem when they didn't come to class. This way... tough luck for them if they didn't attend class).

    I have found that definitions and "wording" is presented much better on the tablet. My prepared examples can have plots and tables, just like they will in the exam. I also always prepare different examples than are found in the book. Nothing annoys me more when I go to the book and it has the same thing that is done in class. To me, you're supposed to complement the book learning, not replace it. There is even a Ti emulator if you need it. So I can have an example with a prepared table of data, tell them that I want a linear regression equation, and I can pull up a virtual TI and do the steps on the calculator right in front of them. Same goes for plots. I sometimes have plots pre-made, but mostly I'll simply have an axis pre-drawn (I am horrible at drawing, so this saves me a lot of time).

    Last, and definitely not least, I can FACE THE CLASS. This is a huge advantage, I would think even more so in high school. The students are much less likely to talk to the person next to them (or in college... sleep during class!) when you are watching them the entire time. To me, it also creates a better classroom atmosphere, since I can always scan the class and look my students in the eye when I am asking a question, rather than facing the board waiting for someone to yell and answer while my back is turned.

    All in all, the tablet/project is much better, as long as you don't abuse it. Don't write out how to do the problems on the slides, make sure you work problems in front of them. Don't become the typical Business professor and present Powerpoint slide after Powerpoint slide of the "highlighted" information in the book. That's simply a waste of everyone's time.

    Good luck, and a huge THANK YOU for being a high school math and science teacher. Especially someone like you who reads Slashdot and is no doubt good with technology. I'm sure you can be doing something which allows you to earn more money, but thank you again for deciding to teach!!

  106. Collaboration by stewbacca · · Score: 2, Informative
    Math is not my forte, but I hold an MA in Technology Education. The most imporant thing about using technology in any discipline is not to use it solely as a projector. Small group collaboration is the key to technology integration. Students work in teams, with technology being only a portion of the overall task. For example, there are before-computer-use task, during and after. Students need to know how to create algebraic symbols on the computer, which in it's own way, is a good learning tool that is only loosely related to completing the Algebra task, yet improves the technology skills of the student. Groups can work together to figure out the keystrokes ON THEIR OWN, with a little guidance from the teacher. Create a list of tasks, technology and math related, that must be accomplished by the teams. Create a rubric for each task that clearly outlines the quality expected for each task. Before long, students will forget they are even using technology, while at the same time they'll be learning how to use technology. And surprise, they'll even start getting the math part too!

    A great reference for better tech teaching is the International Society for Technology Education (ISTE)'s NETS standards found at iste.org

  107. Effective use of technology? by Igarden2 · · Score: 1

    I really disliked the chalk board after a while. The dust was terrible. It screwed up so many pieces of equipment and I was allergic to some chalk. The most effective AV technology in my class room was the overhead projector. It allowed me to always face the class while writing. It also allowed for scaling the size up or down by moving the the projector on a cart. Color was available by choosing a different marker. Copied images from the xerox machine on special sheets was also available. Sometimes the textbooks will give you an important graphic that the students don't really understand. Having it on the screen, discussing it, and writing on it helped. I had a TV mounted on the wall. It was too small for any one in the back. The sound was tinny. The lights had to be out for most material. Eventually, it was used less and less. As for powerpoint, when was the last time you saw an interesting powerpoint presentation? They are very time consuming to put together. I'm not saying impossible, but the time demands of teaching physics can be huge. As a bit of advice, try to NOT over use any technique or device. Students get bored so quickly. Vary what equipment you use. I know that my students regularly forgot my wonderful lectures, but never forgot the labs where something fun happened. Just my experience.

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    Normally I ascribe all life to intelligent design, but in your case I'll make an exception.
  108. Lecture guides by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My wife has been teaching post-secondary mathematics for the last 10 years. Although she teaches at a university, she often has classes where students are just trying to satisfy a minimal math requirement, elementary education majors that are trying to get a grasp of basic concepts, or engineers struggling to survive calculus. My point being that she is not just teaching math majors with an internal drive to be great at math...not unlike many high school classes. One nice thing about these classes at a big 10 school is that there are many sections which give common mid-terms and finals. In this way you can get a fairly good quantitative measure of how effective your teaching methods are compared to others. In the last 10 years, after giving dozens of these common exams, it is very rare that her classes have not scored at least an entire letter grade above the average of the other sections.

    Many of these classes are contiually trying out new technology, but my wife's strategy always has a set of lecture guides at its core. Her philosophy is that if you stand at a blackboard and write every definition, proof, and example, then the student has no time to think about the concepts. On the other hand, if you prepare a full lecture (in PowerPoint or otherwise) and distribute them ahead of time, then students have trouble paying attention and engaging. Instead, she prepares a lecture guide where many of the words are already included. She will purposely leave out key definitions and create blank boxes for examples she intends to work in class. If a process has several distinct steps, she might create a template that shows 5 enumberated bullets, but waits until class to fill them in with extra discussion. In this way her students are writing down key pieces of information to recognize their importance, but are not frantically trying to keep up. The examples are worked out together and discussed in class so that she can see where the students are stumbling. She used to "fill in the blanks" at a blackboard, but has switched over the last few years to writing directly on transparencies. This simple technique combined with an earnest concern for her students seems to be the best combination I have seen, and I am sure it would be effective at the high school level as well.

  109. Hey, math teachers! This is for you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm not a math teacher, but I've been a math student, and here is my input to math teachers:
    1) Don't make math a purely theoretical subject. Use as many examples of how the subject matter can be used for real-world applications as possible. Math for math's sake is just mental masturbation (IMHO!).
    2) Don't try to impress students with how much you know. This attitude is especially common with college-level math professors, and it doesn't do anything for imparting your knowledge to your students.
    3) If the examples of graphing, etc., that you use technology to demonstrate in class can't be duplicated by the student on their own computer, forget about using them.
    4) Avoid PowerPoint shows like the plague--especially whiz-bang, show-biz effects that distract from the subject matter. Absolutely nothing will make your students do a mental shut-down faster.
    5) Know your subject matter so well that you love teaching it. Your students will know in a minute if you don't, and it will be be a fantastic experience for them if you do.

  110. The best Tech application I have seen... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Well, you asked for it, The best application I have seen in a class was in college. The teacher had a remote system (and the students the remotes) that would register responses from the students, a b c d ect.. So what the teach did was give a brief overview of what we should have read, then he had several Quiz questions at the end of the lecture (usually like 15 mins of lecturing). We would answer the questions with the clickers, at no dock to our grade, and then the software would be able to display a graph of the input. The result was that when we came across something we where unfamiliar with as a class, the teacher could easily see it in the quizes, stop, and go over what is confusing to us. That way even if we just thought we understood what he was talking about the quiz would make sure we really did.

    As a result Lectures where highly adaptive to the class being taught, and resulted in a great experience over all.

  111. instant feedback by digicompuser · · Score: 1

    I'd like to see technology used to give students and teacher immediate feedback on the teacher effectiveness. Use of a few questions at the beginning and/or end (or as needed) can assist in knowing if you are getting the message though. Students need an easy way to input answers like those programmable cheap tv remote controls. Software to collect student inputs and display results real time. An overhead IR reader to collect the inputs. With instant feedback the teacher knows if the homework was effective, the concept understood and who needs to come in after class for help and with which concept.

  112. classroom technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I try to use technology in the classroom. I am in Engineering Science and Mechanics Professor at Penn State with a background in theoretical condensed matter Physics. Your proposal with the tablet PC seems reasonable. I have heard that using technology to create more bandwidth is a big mistake and will simply create a bunch of frustrated students. Obviously, it is possible to press the space-bar (in PowerPoint) more quickly than one can write on a chalkboard. That said, PowerPoint can be very useful. In one class that we teach, Mechanical Response of Engineering Materials, most instructors use PowerPoint to introduce theory and provide fill-in-the-blank notes that students print before class. Examples of homework- and exam-type problems are worked in the chalkboard.

    Incremental improvements on a traditional course include creating simulations to illustrate points. I use ANSYS, a finite element analysis package for stress - strain examples, and Mathematica for more general demos. For example, in a demo of stochastic differentail equations, I showed the simple stochastic Euler algorithm, demonstrated solutions to various SDE problems, and then I posted the Mathematica Notebook for anyone that wanted to modify it. I have done similar things with a simple 2D molecular dynamics simulation. Also, Google sketch up can help to create static 3D rotatable images to help explain concepts that require 3D visualization aids.

    Good luck with the table PC.

    -Lawrence Friedman

  113. answer checkers; peer instruction; free books by bcrowell · · Score: 1

    I teach physics. One classic use of computers in physics education is to help students check answers to their homework problems. Before computers, this was done by giving the answers to odd-numbered problems in the back of the book. Computerized answer checking can be superior to that in a couple of ways. With problems that have a numerical answer, many students tend to start from the answer in the back of the book, and then try to work backwards to figure out how they could get that answer; the result is that they don't learn how to solve problems from first principles. Some of them will just write a bunch of wrong stuff on their paper, and then append the answer to it as if that was the answer they found :-) With problems that have a symbolic answer (e.g., x=mv^2/2F is the answer to the problem), the same problem gets even worse. Assigning problems with symbolic answers is very important IMO, because we're trying to instill good problem-solving habits, which means solving problems algebraically, and only plugging in numbers at the very end. Also, it can teach them how to interpret an algebraic result, which is something most of them have never done. Another advantage of doing answer checking on the computer is that I can require my students to use the answer checker if they want to get credit, and tell them that if the computer gives them the feedback saying that their answer is wrong, and they can't figure out how to fix it, they should come to my office hours to get help. This is very different from the usual ethos, which is to turn in a paper with lots of wrong answers and whine for partial credit. The system I use is an open-source one I wrote, called Spotter; its web page has links to a bunch of other free-as-in-something software that does similar things.

    Eric Mazur's book Peer Instruction is worth checking out if you're teaching physics. He's a physic prof at Harvard who pioneered the technique of giving students multiple-choice questions to ponder, polling them, and then if there isn't a clear consensus for the right answer, having them discuss it in groups. I think he originally implemented it with cardboard cards, but most people these days to it using the electronic clickers. Personally, I tried the technique and wasn't that happy with it, but it still helped me to get outside the box of straight lecturing. It seems to be mainly a technique that's useful in huge lecture classes, which isn't what I teach at a community college, and isn't what the OP teaches in high school. I've also heard a lot of students complain bitterly about the clickers -- partly about the cost (which I think is a valid complaint) and partly about nontraditional instruction (which I think just indicates that they're conservative and reluctant to take responsibility).

    There are lots of free college and high school textbooks out there, and you should consider using them. See my sig for a catalog of free books that you can search for math and physics books.

  114. VoiceThread? by fensmuth · · Score: 1

    If you haven't tried it, you should check out www.voicethread.com It doesn't create slides but it allows you to record voice annotations while you 'doodle' on the slides. There are some math examples there already. Make sure to check out the tutorial for the 'doodler'. The other cool thing is that you can invite other people, i.e. students to ask questions back. It's also an incredibly simple interface.

    1. Re:VoiceThread? by nortenin · · Score: 1

      Yes, VoiceThread is quite a useful and powerful web tool for creating presentations and capturing audio and textual commentary around media.

      Check out the following education oriented VoiceThreads:

      Voicethreads for Education
      Classroom 2.0
      Multiplication of Fractions String

  115. Use it for what its good for. by JoeCommodore · · Score: 1

    Think about it, what are computers are good for.

    Blackboards are good for writing and static diagrams and you are good for talking/discussing the subject (which the computer isn't usually).

    But the computer is good for: animation, 3D rendering and simulation.

    From my perspective I never got math to well in school mainly because they explained how to solve problems, but not how to apply math in a real situation. If I were teaching a math class (shudder at the thought) I would provide my students with some idea of what good the math is, relate it to a real world problem.

    - Create problems to be solved with algebra/calculus/physics, and use the computer to plot the results Such as: achieving an orbit, how much powder should Clint Eastwood's .38 bullet need to make the 160 lb. badguy sail across the room (factoring in wind resistance, gunpowder strength, etc.)

    - Show simulations of math and physics in action

    - Animate complex problems (some people are visual and need more a visual idea how problems fold together to make the whole.)

    But as many have said don't just rely on it. Pull it out when you need to use it but don't replace what skills and enthusiasm you have, a big part of education is to inspire students not just to instruct - them show them what you like about math and science and they will learn a lot more then just how to solve equations.

    --
    "Enjoy what you're doing! If it becomes drudgery, you're doing it wrong!" - Jim Butterfield
  116. Undue Skepticism by Troy · · Score: 1
    I'm reading a lot of skepticism from folks who think that armchair quarterbacking is equivalent to real intellectualism. Obviously the OP is experienced as a teacher (already has something that works), familiar with all of the plusses/minuses of technology (not a technophobe), and wanting to do right by his students. I find it tremendously unfortunate that people would rather wag their finger than help. We're on the freaking Internet! The least you can do is link to something that isn't goatse. Anyhoo, I've been using a Smart Board and Airliner Slate in my high school math classroom for a year and a half now. I'm still trying new ways of using the technology to enrich my lessons and grab kids who aren't already enthralled with my magnetic personality and fantastic sense of humor. The best piece of advice I can give you is to have appropriate expectations. We all have this vision of clicking a button and seeing something zoom across the screen as the class begins cheering. That's not going to happen. Here are some things I've learned over the past 18 months
    • The first time you do anything, it will take 4 times longer than normal. Plan accordingly
    • For the first week or so, you'll go a little slower than you normally do. Keep at it. You're just on the learning curve. After 2 weeks or so, you'll find that you're actually being more efficient
    • Technology is great for speeding up all of those little logistical things that we have to do in class. Erasing the board is my bugaboo, because I use lots of board space. Now I just hit "next page," and I save 2-3 minutes a period. That's another example, or extra one-on-one time with the kids who need it.
    • If you can, don't work from the front of the class. The thing that I loved the most about my slate is that it allowed me to cruise around the room as I lectured. By breaking that invisible wall, students became more focused, horseplay dropped off, and I could more easily identify those students who were lagging behind or struggling. Some kids just NEED you to be their extra-special buddy and stand by them for the period.
    • You have colors now. GO NUTS! I use colors to highlight important terms or to discriminate between steps in a math problem. Don't neglect the potential of the on-screen highlighter either (it's for more than just highlighting words the way you did in your college textbook).
    • Any easy way of spicing up your lessons: You have a diagram. Go on Google Images and find a real-world picture that illustrates the diagram. Fade it and put the diagram over top of it. Now you have a diagram, and the kids immediately see how the diagram could exist in the real world. I do it for slope, by browsing the Mars Rovers page for pictures of a hill. I put the hill on a grid, and we talk about slope. I take a minute to talk about the challenges the Rover team faces as they plan the route for each rover.
    • Another easy way: Pick a concept that the kids have difficulty getting. Google the concept with keywords like flash or applet. See if you can't find some kind of interactive doo-dad that let's you play with the concept. Figure out how you can use it in class. If possible, have a weak student do the button pushing when you demo the app in class. I do some variation of this when I teach Trig transformations (precalc) and writing a line to connect two points (Algebra). Don't overdo it though. I go for one flashy lesson each unit.
    • Recording notes has been a mixed bag for me. I recorded them and put them online for kids to download. I had no problem getting kids to continue taking notes in class, because I made them. Since I had the slate, I could see who was NOT taking notes and get them working again. I even did notebook checks where I made my [freshmen] produce/turn in notes from two weeks ago. My problem was that no one would take advantage of the on-line notes. I use Googl
  117. Don't by gnu-sucks · · Score: 1

    There's nothing worse than watching a teacher "play computer" while you're trying to learn. It is a major distraction, and generally uses a lot more time than simply demonstrating a technique or example on a standard dry-erase or chalk board.

    I once had a teacher who did everything with powerpoint and a wacom tablet. He never touched the chalk. And it was cool at first, because he had the ability to look things up on the internet, review his notes from the previous lecture, and even change his slides when he noticed mistakes.

    But for me, I didn't learn much this way. Besides the fact that the lights were darkened (which made me sleepy), he would spend at least ten to fifteen minutes each day doing things like opening files and clicking on various dialog boxes. Had he simply used the three sliding chalkboards, very little time would have been wasted.

    There isn't ANYTHING in physics, chemistry, or math that can't be represented fully on a chalkboard by a competent educator.

    And I've had the old school teachers that abide by this notion. They really know their stuff. You think you need computer graphing software to demonstrate trig, calculus, or algebra? Previous generations got to the moon and back without much more than a slide rule and a 15-lb calculator. If you're an educator, and you find it more efficient to use mathlab or whatever instead of just drawing the darn thing, than please do kids a favor and step aside.

    Even though you might be good at using the computer, if you can teach kids how to understand these concepts with nothing more than a piece of paper and a pencil, then you'll be lowering their reliance on graphing calculators and computers. Yes, these things are useful, sure, but when it comes to learning, better to learn the concept without the bells and whistles.

    Call me old school, and I'm cool with that.

  118. Use the tech like you would use the blackboard. by Joseph_Daniel_Zukige · · Score: 1

    You can't provide canned lecture when you use a blackboard (unless you have a lot of blackboard and no other class uses the room, perhaps, or unless you can write on the blackboard really fast). Canned lectures are a bad thing.

    I taught English as a foreign language some ten years back with Clarisworks on a Mac with a projector. I rarely prepared materials, because I always taught an interactive lesson.

    As the lesson progressed, I saved the stuff that went on screen. At the end of each period I gave the files to the students. (Yeah, that's backwards from the usual use of the tech.)

    The students who took notes took notes anyway.

    Some of the students shared their notes after class, of course, and then started sharing notes over the LAN during class. Because they knew they were getting what I was putting on screen, their notes tended to have some original work, which of course helped the students help each fill in the gaps. (Only paranoid teachers assume that all notes passed during class are discussions of cuteness, invitations to dates, and other off-topic junk.)

    Education works much better when you create the content in class, interactively with the students. But you have to know your tools, and you have to use flexible tools that are transparent to the observers as well as to the user. That's why the blackboard is so great.

    (The three disadvantages of the blackboard are the lack of advanced editing, the lack of ability to copy, and the lack of automatic interpretation of formulae, and I don't mean just math formulae. A good teacher uses those lacks to his or her advantage, however.)

    There are some cool things that can be done with tagged text and prepared filters (programs), especially if you have a classroom where every student has a laptop, all hooked together by LAN. Some of it amounts to spontaneous interactive games.

    Part of the reason I get bugged by Microsoft's XML is that they have cluttered up the tagged text market with tools that work exactly against that kind of class. Microsoft's junk tends to push the user towards canned content, and, as people have noted, canned content tends to kill education.

    For math, the Mac's grapher, and similar programs can be useful, but you have to be willing to slow down, and to refrain from showing the complete graph until you've had the students work out some critical points by hand.

    I think this is what the warnings above are all about:

    Use the tech like a blackboard with extended capabilities.

  119. chalk dust allergy by porky_pig_jr · · Score: 1

    it blows my mind the blackboard is still widely used. i know several instructors who got the allergy to chalk developed, so they keep sneezing and caughing during the lecture. having the writable tablet with projector would have been a great relief for them.

  120. Physics Illustrator by baby_robots · · Score: 1

    A neat toy that I found is the Microsoft Physics Illustrator for Tablet PC. This application lets you draw physics diagrams, and then animates them. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?Fa milyID=56347faf-a639-4f3b-9b87-1487fd4b5a53&displa ylang=en

  121. Dirty bastard! by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 1

    Study pedagogy
    What, and get my lovely new windows broken by a mob of illiterate pikeys?
    --
    It's true I tell you, feller at work's next door neighbour read it in the paper.
  122. Tecnology is no substitute for proper teaching by SeaSolder · · Score: 1

    I am the product of "Teaching with Technology". Yes, I can use a computer pretty damn well, but to the detriment of never learning how to do long-division, write in cursive, learning to spell correctly, etc.

    I kinda blame the math deficiencies on the fact that my math text books were co-written by Texas Instruments, and are nothing more than glorified user's manuals for their calculators. Yah, it was easy and as fun as could be expected to learn the stuff, but I never learned the background to the processes I was seeing happen on the screen. I would give my left arm to be able to go back, and learn math without a calculator. Please PLEASE don't let technology get in the way of teaching your students their core competencies.

  123. The old ones are the best by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 2, Funny

    Lecture: A period of time when the notes of the lecturer are transferred to the notebooks of the students without going through the brain of either.

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    It's true I tell you, feller at work's next door neighbour read it in the paper.
  124. Use Mathmatica by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mathmatica is an awesome tool for visualization of math problems, it is have a ton of support. I know that for basic physics, you'll find a large community of people, whom have created simulations, templates, graphing/plotting solutions, already. Check it out, it does cost quite a bit, but I used it in my High School math classes, and it was an awesome asset. I think the primary problem for math teachers these days, is that your students expect some sort of visual correlation. Not just the equation but the output of the equation.

  125. Re:Sounds - PATHETIC TEACHING STYLE by B_SharpC · · Score: 0

    "There were silent screams ... from the people that saw what they were still copying out"

    You are the typical failure of a teacher. The 'silent screams' are a sign you foolishly ignored. No student should waste thier time copying anything. A hardcopy of EVERYTHING written should be provided to students.
     
    You have sadly no respect for student's time. 90% of teachers are pathetic.

    --
    Score & Karma: SASA: Slashdot Approval Seekers Anonymous
  126. Blackboards Have a Purpose by tajmahall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As some see it, the main reason blackboards are used in math/physics is to get the teacher to slow the hell down. The only outcome of technology is teachers who fly through equations too fast for students to copy them.

    1. Re:Blackboards Have a Purpose by virginiajim · · Score: 1
      Brigham Young University has pursued the idea idea of speed learning with software that allows speed viewing of digital video tapes of lectures, as well as speed listening at http://www.enounce.com/docs/BYUPaper020319.pdf

      The work is dated and I've seen nothing else since, but the idea of providing presentations as videos or audio recordings for review by students who can select, speed up, and extract what they need should have merit.


      Here's a quote I picked up a few years back's:


      "Apparently, American Psychological Association research has shown that while listening to a speaker, people do the following things:

      *18% are really listening to the speaker

      *25% are having erotic thoughts

      *57% are thinking about something else


      (Note: I say "apparently" because I read this in a handout I got at the CPSI conference, and haven't been able to find any actual confirmation of this research on the APA site.)


      Most people can speak about 150 words per minute, but can hear and comprehend 900-950 words per minute. So after the first 20 seconds or so of a presentation, the audience will fade in and out and think about other things. So, we were told, you can make this work in your favor by drawing a line down the center of your notepaper and recording "in" thoughts on one side, and the "out" thoughts on the other side. This is supposed to free you from trying to remember "out" thoughts, and encourage you to generate ideas without losing track of the presentation. http://www.corante.com/ideaflow/ 20030201.shtml#21117"


      Others have noted some web sites of possible value. Here are several more:


      http://www.hardscience.info/

      http://library.advanced.org/10170/menuw.htm

      http://webphysics.iupui.edu/

      http://www.aip.org/education/

      http://www.falstad.com/mathphysics.html

      http://www.vias.org/feee/index.html

      http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Indexe s/HistoryTopics.html

      http://www.mhs.ox.ac.uk/geometry/content.htm

      http://acept.la.asu.edu/courses/phs110/expmts/toc. html

      http://nsac.ca/eng/courses/math1000/index.asp

      Hope there's something of value there. Jim

  127. Use video games. by Cyanide300 · · Score: 1

    If you wanted to try to engage students in math and physics, you could try to show them how math and physics are so critical to making those video games they love. Math and physics are the things that drive all those awesome graphics and animation.

  128. MechanicalUniverse + Project Mathematics+ Alice by isdale · · Score: 1

    Animation and 3d are great ways to show the concepts. Beats the heck out of static reading/powerpoints, especially for modern high schoolers. Jim Blinn & cohorts at Cal tech did a pair of great works on Physics (The Mechanical Universe, circa 1987) and Project Mathmeatics (much more recent). Then try your own lessons (or have the kids do some) using Alice 3D

    Project Mathematics Home Page

    Project MATHEMATICS! videos explore basic topics in high school mathematics in ways that cannot be done at the chalkboard or in a textbook. They bring mathematics to life with imaginative computer animation, live action, music, special effects, and a sense of humor.

    Mechanical Universe Home

    The Mechanical Universe...and Beyond is a critically-acclaimed series of 52 thirty-minute videotape programs covering the basic topics of an introductory university physics course. The series was originally produced as a broadcast telecourse by the California Institute of Technology and Intelecom, Inc. with program funding from the Annenberg/CPB Project.

    see see Jim Blinn's title list

    1. Re:MechanicalUniverse + Project Mathematics+ Alice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I found the animations in The Mechanical Universe quite elucidative. It's also just a really great series. I've recommended it to many people, including a Mathematics teacher. There are also torrents of the first and second halves available (the quality is pretty low, as these are stream rips). I've never heard of Project Mathematics, but I will definitely check it out. Thanks!

  129. Chalk-Corporal Education works best. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "*Spend the rest of the class discussing and explaining the facts in great depth. Professor points at someone every other minute and asks a question on the material. Asks hard questions. If you can't keep up in notes, you had better ask someone to copy, because he will not slow down. If you can't keep up in the critical thinking portion, get the hell out and accept a fail."

    Hmmm, yes. I tried a similar tack with my dog's obedience training. When he pooped were he wasn't suppose to, I pushed his nose into it. When he did anything he wasn't suppose to, a rolled-up newspaper worked well. You can imagine how well he turned out.

  130. Technology outside the classroom by T+Murphy · · Score: 1

    If you have students who have internet widely available to them (perhaps a minority have to use the school or library), online assignments can be a useful tool. My AP physics class in high school had half of the homework online. We had message boards to discuss problems, which the teacher would take part in, and people would use instant messaging and email additionally to communicate. It was encouraged to work together, and I learned physics really well by teaching some of my classmates, and most of the class learned really well because of this peer-teaching (I was not the only one teaching my classmates). As much as it is important for a teacher to lead the students in learning, the students can sometimes get across to each other better, so be sure to use that.
    My teacher put multiple choice conceptual questions up on the projector for the class to talk through, and had us do a lot of group work and discussion. He mostly only lectured when introducing a topic and when going over derivation of equations. I suppose what I am saying is that technology should only be used a lot if it is what students use a lot themselves.

  131. MATLAB by RighteousRaven · · Score: 1

    This will require some skill on your part, but MATLAB can be an amazing teaching tool. A university Professor of mine used it to create animations and other visualizations.

    Imagine being able to demonstrate trigonometric identities with animated sin waves, or geometry with 3d surfaces. As a programming language, it will give you incredible flexibility to demonstrate difficult concepts without putting emphasis on how pretty it looks.

  132. Simulation by afroborg · · Score: 1

    So it would appear that Slasdot has spoken, and that most are trying to tell you that computers have no place in the maths / physics classroom. But that wasn't what you asked. What you were really asking, it seems to me, was
    "I have these cool tech toys, how can I incorporate them into my lessons?"
    First of all, you have listed 3 subjects which you are/will be teaching, potentially with the aid of this equipment. I had typed out a great long post here, but really it boiled down to "Algebra and Calc are not going to benefit from this much more than using it as a glorified OHP that can show moving pictures". By all means use it if it's more convenient than an OHP though.

    I think there is potentially a benefit to be had in Physics lessons, where there are often concepts which are taught in simple forms, then experiments which have extra constraints on them are used to prove the concepts. Friction or electrical resistance are good examples of uncontrolled parameters which cannot be removed in reality. If you can show simulations of physical systems, and add in elements as you go, then you can potentially build up a better understanding of what parts of the system contribute what effects. Take for example series resonance - (either Mass-Spring-Damper or LCR circuit). In the real world it is impossible to build a system to demonstrate LC or Mass Spring resonance without any form of damping. But on a computer, easy. Arbitary amounts of friction/resistance can be added as you go, to show what the effect is.

    That is obviously only one example of how a simulation could be used, and I would think that just about every concept that is taught at a High School physics level could be simulated easily. A lot of excersises in physics text books are perfect examples of things that could be simulated - especially the ones which say things like "Assuming there is no air friction" or other such assumptions which are hard to replicate in real experiments.
    Students could be asked to calculate parameters for the simulations (the same as the would for real experiments) in order to acheive certain goals - eg. calculate values of L R and C to give a certain frequency of oscillation and damping factor. The ability to test them with a simulator would show quickly and easily if they are correct, without relying on what parts you have available at the time.

    It is important to note that these simulations would absoulutely NOT replace hands-on experiments by the students, and in fact should probably be done after the students have already collected their own results - so as not to give the game away first. But simulation is an important tool in engineering (applied physics!) these days, so I see no problem with using it in the classroom, as long as it is used as a tool for learning, not a crutch.
    As for my recommendations of what software to use - that really depends on you and your level of knowledge about computers and programming. I will assume that as you are posting to Ask /. that you have some level of programming experience (bad assumption?) so I would recommend VPython and SciLab (or FreeMAT) for physical simulations. Some of the simulations at http://www.myphysicslab.com/ might give you some ideas of the sorts of things I'm thinking about. And I would say that a bit of thought at the outset as to what you are trying to achieve with each simulation will go a long way. Make them able to accept parameters so that you can easily show what happens when you change things. If your programming knowledge is less, there are systems such as Interactive Physics which may be of some use, I don't know, I've never tried it (just googled it).

    Anyway, that's my 2c worth, I wish you luck
    AJ

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  133. Germany has a cool eBoard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not certain why no one's modded you up, but that comes the closest to what I think an eBoard should be. I figure as technology improves that board should improve as well.

  134. OpenEducationCD by pluke · · Score: 1

    Has a small section on Maths/Science Software. Graphcalc is ace http://www.graphcalc.com/. sci lab also though probably a little complex http://www.scilab.org/. Open Education CD can be found here: http://www.theopencd.org/education

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  135. Demonstrations by asobala · · Score: 1

    My physics teacher at A-level (17-18, school leaving exam for the Americans) was the only teacher I'd had who used a digital whiteboard effectively.

    1. Just with a remote camera for the small, fiddly demonstrations that are hard to see and normally have the whole class crowding round some small equipment.
    2. For whole-class data analysis of an experiment, eg. software grabs the charging curve of a capacitor, or a truck rolling down a hill, etc. You can use the whiteboard to do the maths on that data to demonstrate the concepts.

  136. FREE Tablet PC classrooms systems by BethSimon · · Score: 1

    Check out a few of the active research projects and (some free) products specifically designed to support the classroom learning environment -- both lecturing, active learning, peer evaluation, noteblogging, etc. --Ubiquitous Presenter http://up.ucsd.edu/ (yes, I'm a co-inventor) --Classroom Presenter http://www.cs.washington.edu/education/dl/presente r/ --(not free, but good) DyKnow http://dyknow.com/ These systems have been designed (and studied) not only to support standard fare of "inking up" lecture materials, but to support improved pedagogies in the classroom -- such as engaging students in trying out their learning, supporting reflection on exercises or demos, empowering students to contribute or share knowledge, etc. All of these products have publications web pages with pubs targeted at the instructor. You can also look for more publications in the proceedings of WIPTE (Workshop on the Impact of Pen Technology in Education). http://www.itap.purdue.edu/tlt/conference/wipte/ If you want to hear from students about what THEY like about Tablet PCs and some of the things they like instructors to do with them check out http://www.studenttabletpc.com/

  137. For Physics... by Zinner · · Score: 1

    You indicate that you also teach physics. Instead of just patching on technology because you think you need to, be constructive. Go over to Vernier or Pasco and start looking at the tools for interactive learning. At my school, we make extensive use of computers and sensors in our physics and physical science classes. The students are happier, the technology is actually doing something useful, and it allows you do do much more in less time. I also create PowerPoints for all of my classes as well as create a class site using Blackboard software.

  138. Watch Alan Kay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Watch Alan Kay's talks for some ideas. 8)

  139. what i use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In my high school science class I use a wireless quizzing system by TI (called TI-Navigator) to get immediate feedback on whether my students learned what I just taught. Constant assessment is the key to good instruction.

    For math a Smartboard is better than a tablet because once you draw a geometry problem on it is easier to go back and write on it as you solve the problem (for other subjects a tablet/projector is a better value).

    Wikis, podcasts, and blogs are great for all types of classrooms - a quick amazon search will turn up books with good suggestions.

  140. A set of tools for quantum mechanics by zolltron · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Physics Education Group at Kansas State University has made a set of tools for teaching quantum mechanics. Some of them involve computer simulation of wave packets, etc. This helps for visualizing the (rather complex) ideas behind quantum mechanics. I interacted with these tools while taking an undergraduate physics course (intended for non-majors). They really worked well.

  141. Powerpoint by munner · · Score: 1
    Our school (middle school / junior high) just installed digital projectors in all our classrooms, and bought licenses of powerpoint. As a teacher who knows something about tech, I'll repeat what a lot of other posters are saying: technology on its own does not improve teaching or learning. It's a tool. If you've got a bad lesson plan, technology isn't going to make it any better.

    At the same time, I find it really useful for some things:
    • Easy-erase graphs.Project a blank x-y grid onto your whiteboard. (not your screen!) Draw, erase, repeat. No re-drawing of grids.
    • Fill-in reviews.Project your typed assignment complete with blanks. Kids can track more easily their own copies of assignments as you go through problems on the board.
    • Relational diagrams.At age 12, kids still have a hard time creating their own flow-charts and relational diagrams. Powerpoint makes it easy to create these for kids to visualize.
    • Ease of reading.If you've got to give notes, and write chicken scratches, a typed version is nicer.
    • Speed.Is it better to draw out molecules, turning your attention away from a group of social 12-year-olds, or simply project manipulable, coloured, 3-d molecules, while watching the class the whole time?
    • Pictures.You'd be surprised how many kids don't know what a moose looks like. Yes, really.
    • Prepared notes.All my notes are numbered; when a kid is out sick, they tell what notes they missed, and voila, print note-X to note-Y and I'm done.
  142. Wealth of Interactive Reference Material by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lucky? Perhaps...teachers I still consider my lifetime best all taught me how to learn. The ancient bagful of tricks, as it were. Learning a subject's basis, how it is constructed, and how the pieces interact is more important than derivitive details and facts -- the derivations can be performed anytime when necessary.

    How to utilize reference materials is a key skill for any student. Using reference materials in teaching provides examples of use.

    Among standard classroom reference materials like dictionaries and textbooks may be access to Internet content. Project a (scripted) lecture-oriented exploration of related online material. Individual and group guided explore on their own, and to complete focused assignments.

    Computer Programming is an essential skill for both math and physics. Excel in the lab.

    I forget which Fibonacci Number took a whole box of fan-fold to print, writing the program to calculate it was fun as were the ones that calculated many pi and e decimal places.

    The program that graphs the bouncing-ball for initial motion vector input, likewise, for achieving orbit at different g (mathematicians can vary or oscillate g and see what happens!)

    Technological device is practical example to explain mathematics and physics. Consider LCD Monitor, topics include quantum, atomic, electric, photonic, etc..

    What technology is used in today's research and in the field? Which are suitable for teaching?

    In this light, older technology remains a teaching and learning resource; oftentimes can be had inexpensiviely or for free.

    Robotics.

  143. good old methods still works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am from Sri Lanka. I did A/Levels here. And all the teachers used blackboard (or whiteboards) to draw diagrams and explain. We were just writing down them as well as other facts he/she explain.

    Then I went to uni, an australian one. Pretty much every class was using power point. Yes, it gives the idea "oh.. I can sleep now.. probably read the slides later". Even sometimes I didn't bother going to classes... one thing is.. lecturer is boring, and nothing worth writing down. This eventually backfires. As in...when powerpoint slides don't guide you through subject matter.. you are in trouble.

    The best class I had ever was my Microelectronics class. Professori used whiteboard heavily with multiple colour pens. Also he prepared his own notes and handed us at the end of class. Furthermore, he gave assignments that need to use most of what we learn in the lectures, rather something just came to earth from mars. I think these assignments was the great pleasure, joey and the key for a successfull understanding and long term rememberence.

    So... praise black/white boards.

  144. effective use of technology in the classroom by Miow · · Score: 1

    Teaching is now as much about searching as it is about instilling enthusiasm about a subject. Having worked as a lecturer in animation for some years I set up several projects in getting children to use technology for making their own teaching movies. This is at www.MakeMovies.co.uk In the linked blog (www.MakeMovies.co.uk/blog/index.html)there are thousands of links to animation sites offering lessons on just about anything you can think of. The best use I found for technology was teaching children to find the information they needed themselves, and to make their own teaching projects with the help of other children. The teacher becomes a resource for when they need help.

  145. Collective Simulations: become a human organ by the+agent+man · · Score: 1

    One way of using technology effectively is to enable role play in the classroom. Collective Simulations combine social learning pedagogical models with distributed simulation technical frameworks. We have a human physiology simulation called Mr. Vetro. At the beginning of the class organs, simulated by PDAs, are handed out to the students. They have to collaborate in real time to keep Mr. Vetro alive. Nobody is falling asleep in these classes. Things can get very hectic in the classroom with heart and lung team nearly shouting at each other at times. However, this is not just about fun and engagement. Early evidence of our research indicates that the students better retain information and gain a deeper understanding of the interactions between the systems. Simple but working demo: http://www.agentsheets.com/research/c5/documents/i nteractive%20flier/c5-flier.html

  146. www.assistment.org by csanket · · Score: 1

    An excellent math tutoring system for high school students - http://www.assistment.org/

  147. Precisely my question by postermmxvicom · · Score: 1

    Nothing is wrong with the blackboard. But, new technology does bring new opportunities. I am trying to navigate this. I want to use it, but only effectively. I don't want to shift the focus on the technology and have it hinder my lesson, but I don't want to ignore its availability and miss something that could benefit my class.

    "Use, but not overuse" - is what I am thinking. But, I am young. I am just fishing for ideas.

    I am looking forward to reading all of this thread, but it's now the middle of the school day. I'll be back tonight.

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    1. Re:Precisely my question by Kelbear · · Score: 1

      I recommend keeping in mind how your actions will affect the result of student notes.

      Blackboards are erased by teachers and progress from there, while student paper notes are permanently written on and only erased if erroneous, and then the page is turned. So a blackboard can "go back in time" through erasure, while a student's notes cannot, and would need to be redrawn to capture the new state(While the teacher is still going!).

      Blackboards are an iterative construction, but result in only a snapshot of the final result in the student notes. Powerpoint slides done step-by-step can allow for students to keep both the final result and the construction.

    2. Re:Precisely my question by HyperBlazer · · Score: 1

      A few thoughts based on my own experience, both as student and teacher (posting in direct response to you in the hopes that you'll actually get the message, since this is a little late). I don't have a ton of teaching experience, but I do have some thoughts. I've mostly taught chemistry (some which might be considered more about physics). One thing to remember is the importance of giving your kinesthetic learners the time to take notes. You actually *don't* want to speed up class too much, and that's one of the dangers of PowerPoint. If you have to write it on the board, your students have time to write it in their notes. I feel that technology only has two advantages in the classroom: it can draw better than you can, and it can show things changes in time better than you can. The question is whether your course needs it. For multidimensional calculus, it can be great. But if you're plotting functions of a single variable, you can sketch those on the board just as easily. On the other hand, if you're teaching quantum dynamics (my field) you may want to show how both the real and imaginary parts of the wavefunction evolve in time.... try sketching that! One way I've tried to use technology is to make a website with extra material. In any class, you have some great students and some not-so-great students. In the classroom, it's impossible both to challenge the best kids and to help the kids who are struggling. I use a website to provide enrichment opportunities for the interested students and remedial materials for the weaker students. It's not a flashy as cool demos in the classroom, but I think it can make a big difference for the students. Good luck teaching!

  148. lights out by postermmxvicom · · Score: 1

    The projector is bright enough to leave the lights on. :) I am young. I remember highschool :P

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  149. Not flamebait. by Joe+Jay+Bee · · Score: 1

    Someone metamod this unfair, this is not flamebait by any stretch.

  150. "compliment"? by sczimme · · Score: 1


    I suggest you compliment the technology there with a pair of night-vision goggles or something.

    "My, that is some *lovely* technology! Please have this free pair of night-vision goggles!"

    I believe you mean complementary. :-)

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    1. Re:"compliment"? by scribblej · · Score: 1

      Sorry; I was too busy sleeping during the lectures in High School.

  151. Speaking as a former and future CS teacher... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Having examples with which you can interact is great. It takes time to put a complex example or problem on a board, so coming to class with that example already available (and reusable for other classes) is a big bonus. It saves on time which can then be used for discussion.

    In a classic lecture, you can run through your material more effectively than you can on a board. You can return to a previous slide to reiterate a point more easily than with a regular over-head projector. And - and this is the big benefit of using your setup as far as I'm concerned - you can mark-up your presentation during the lecture and capture those notes for future use, while still keeping the original presentation without the extra notes for another class. To me, this last bit is HUGE because different groups of students will need you to drill down into different areas, and because going through the drill-down exercise is a great learning tool.

    Finally, if you have network connectivity, you can take advantage of it. If you want to put up a resource web site, Wikipedia, WebPC or any other online educational tool, it's right there at your fingertips. You can project your website, with the syllabus and course notes. You can upload your notes to your website at the end of lecture.

  152. Thanks, everybody by postermmxvicom · · Score: 1

    I appreciate all the comments. I am still reading through them. But I have many papers to grade and tests to write still. So, it'll probably be till the weekend before I finish.

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    1. Re:Thanks, everybody by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As an engineer, I've helped create manipulatives and online resources for educators in science and reading. In terms of Math and Physics specifically, you may want to check out http://www.explorelearning.com/. Of course as many have already said, technology needs to be integrated with a strong lesson plan and instructional guidance. But when it is, these kinds of tools can demonstrate practicality and seed questions. Some provide a safe way to conduct an experiment or visualize what can't be seen in the real world. And they can help to reinforce the material with immediate and interactive feedback. Good luck.