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Some Moray Eels Have Two Sets of Jaws

mikesd81 writes that the Mercury News reports that scientists at UC Davis have discovered that some eels have an extra set of jaws deep in their throats that launch forward into their mouths to help pull prey in. "'It looks like a funny pair of forceps with curved sharp teeth,' said evolutionary biologist Rita Mehta, lead author of the research, which appears Thursday in Nature. Before the discovery, scientists thought that all aquatic predators swallowed their prey using suction. By dropping the lower jaw and creating a flow of water into their mouths, they draw in the prey. The two species of moray eels studied by Mehta and Wainwright are the first examples of an alternative feeding method. Instead of sucking, one of these eels bites its prey with its primary set of teeth. It then draws the second set of teeth into its mouth by contracting long muscles. The secondary jaws clamp down on the prey, allowing the eel to move its primary jaws forward in a gulping motion to take in more of the prey. The two sets of jaws take turns until the whole animal has been swallowed." mikesd81 adds a link to a YouTube video of an eel eating, noting "If you look closely right around 34 seconds you can see what looks like the other set of jaws chewing."

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  1. Ob. Ned Flanders quote by dc29A · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, this certainly seems odd, but, heh, who am I to question the work of the Almighty? Oh, we thank you Lord for this mighty fine intelligent design! Good job!

    1. Re:Ob. Ned Flanders quote by marcello_dl · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Still mad at me for the way I designed your little wee-wee, are you?

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    2. Re:Ob. Ned Flanders quote by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      I'm still a bit sad that our Designer don't design animals with three jaws. Imagine what a concept, 50% more powerful than these!

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    3. Re:Ob. Ned Flanders quote by fishfishfish · · Score: 2, Informative

      Virtually all fish have two sets of jaws - oral jaws and pharyngeal jaws, also known as the pharyngeal mill. The pharyngeal mill is normally used for crushing and grinding hard foods, such as crustaceans, but morays have evolved the ability to use them to grab prey held in the oral jaws and pull it into the oesaphagus. There's a good interview here: http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/it em.php?news=1367

    4. Re:Ob. Ned Flanders quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I designed it right in the first place, you weren't supposed to cut out a piece of it! *sigh* Damn you stupid jews.

    5. Re:Ob. Ned Flanders quote by HvitRavn · · Score: 1

      Yep, also present in sharks (and related families).

    6. Re:Ob. Ned Flanders quote by sh3l1 · · Score: 1

      People who believe in intelligent design almost always believe in micro-evolution. this is an adaptation that the morray eel has made to eat more food at a time.

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  2. Haven't I seen this somewhere... by Zwerker · · Score: 5, Funny

    OMG - ALIEN! Defrost Ripley RIGHT NOW!

    1. Re:Haven't I seen this somewhere... by Ardipithecus · · Score: 1
      Freaky real life duplicating freaky scifi.

      The second set of jaws grabs and pulls the victim further in; in Alien* their purpose is not clear beyond being scary. Probably the same function, laying the case for interstellar convergent evolution, or common ancestry... It'd be interesting to learn how they came up with the detail in the films

      And btw, why do aliens in movies not have clothes? Flying saucers, ray guns, specialized cow scalpels, but not one pair of shorts or shoes.

    2. Re:Haven't I seen this somewhere... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And btw, why do aliens in movies not have clothes? Flying saucers, ray guns, specialized cow scalpels, but not one pair of shorts or shoes.


      In Independence Day they have, a nice bio-organic suit!

    3. Re:Haven't I seen this somewhere... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plenty of aliens have clothes, just check out Stargate. Okay, the asgard are little pervy nudists, but most of the others have clothes on. The goauld wear humans like a suit!

    4. Re:Haven't I seen this somewhere... by Champ · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, the Predator had a sexy little fishnet get-up.

    5. Re:Haven't I seen this somewhere... by mdozturk · · Score: 1

      The clip made me hungry for sushi. Unagi anyone?

    6. Re:Haven't I seen this somewhere... by Cecil · · Score: 1

      Or Star Trek, or Babylon 5, or just about any sci-fi series with humanoid aliens. As long as they're played by human actors, unclothed humanoid aliens are to be pretty few and far between (alas.)

    7. Re:Haven't I seen this somewhere... by Locutus · · Score: 1

      And these guys think it's funny!

      "It looks like a funny pair of forceps with curved sharp teeth," said evolutionary biologist Rita Mehta

      Have they never seen Xenomorph in action, tearing people apart? Great, now it looks like the nightmares might be coming back and it'll be back in therapy and the sleeping pills again. ;-)

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  3. Nature Article by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Informative

    "If you look closely right around 34 seconds you can see what looks like the other set of jaws chewing." I don't believe that is what you are seeing.

    From the original source of information and in the Journal Nature's News, these jaws are definitely not for chewing. If you look at the images of x-rays you will see that these are more 'hooks' or teeth than jaws.

    In the rest of the articles, they talk about this mearly being the method by which the eel pulls the food down or holds on to it. I don't believe any fish (or snakes for that matter) really 'chew' their food.

    I think what you are seeing in that video is the extra skin around the inner part of the mouth billow out as the animal attempts to suck the food in (which as mentioned, most fish do). I don't know a lot about eels so I can't verify that the eel in that video is a moray eel much less one of the kinds that have that kind of device to ingest food. There's over 200 species of moray eels so I guess it would be futile to try and verify it. Still an interesting video but I predict you would see that kind of action when any fish feeds.
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    1. Re:Nature Article by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      I think what you are seeing in that video is the extra skin around the inner part of the mouth billow out as the animal attempts to suck the food in (which as mentioned, most fish do). [...] There's over 200 species of moray eels so I guess it would be futile to try and verify it. Come on.. this stuff isn't that hard to verify.
      You don't need high speed cameras.

      Wouldn't a scalpel and some scissors resolve any lingering questions?
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    2. Re:Nature Article by Otter · · Score: 2, Informative
      Wouldn't a scalpel and some scissors resolve any lingering questions?

      The paper, for those with access to Nature, has extensive dissections. It's not just based on the film of feeding, although I think that's what started them looking.

    3. Re:Nature Article by mikesd81 · · Score: 1

      This is why I used the wording "what seems to be.."

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  4. As Dean Martin used to say... by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Funny

    When an eel bites your face, that's a moray.

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    1. Re:As Dean Martin used to say... by syrinx · · Score: 5, Funny

      I heard it as:

      When fins brush by your heel
      That's not just an eel
      That's a moray

      When you feel teeth bite down
      And you're starting to drown
      That's a moray

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    2. Re:As Dean Martin used to say... by hasbeard · · Score: 1, Funny

      I'm not sure whether to mod you +1 Funny or +1 Punny.

    3. Re:As Dean Martin used to say... by ekgringo · · Score: 0

      On NPR this morning, they had another stanza, which I think were something like: When you cry and you beg As the eel bites your leg That's a moray

    4. Re:As Dean Martin used to say... by Gulthek · · Score: 3, Funny

      When you're swimming in a creek
      and an eel bites your cheek
      That's a moray

    5. Re:As Dean Martin used to say... by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

      When you're scuba-divin' off of Oz
      And a spine to the chest gives ya pause
      That's not a moray, that's a ray

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    6. Re:As Dean Martin used to say... by c_sd_m · · Score: 1

      And one more: When an eel lunges out Takes a bite of your snout That's a moray

    7. Re:As Dean Martin used to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Howzabout "+1 Finny"?

    8. Re:As Dean Martin used to say... by ncc74656 · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure whether to mod you +1 Funny or -1 Punny.

      I corrected that for you. :-)

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    9. Re:As Dean Martin used to say... by srmalloy · · Score: 4, Funny

      From Spider Robinson, author of the Callahan's Crosstime Saloon stories:

      When you swim in da sea / an' an eel bites you knee, / dat's a moray.
      A New Zealander man / with a permanent tan, / that's a Maori.
      When two patterns combine, / in a way serpentine, / that's a moiré.
      He tells jokes, he's a ham, / his last name's Amsterdam, / that's a Morey.
      If your vitamins be / mostly C, D, and E, / take some more A.
      When a Canadian shows / you his mother, he goes: / "Dat's my mawr, eh?"
      With the high price of feed, / it's for farmers in need, / that some mow hay.
      My new ray gun here tries / to put out both your eyes: / It's a Moe-ray.

    10. Re:As Dean Martin used to say... by MarsDefenseMinister · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Having sex with a fish is gross.
      Having sex with an eel is a moray.

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    11. Re:As Dean Martin used to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for getting that started. I have to go and wipe the coffee off my screen now.

    12. Re:As Dean Martin used to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is this the only funny line Ive seen all day. Ha, awesome.

    13. Re:As Dean Martin used to say... by clem · · Score: 2, Funny

      When an eel lunges out
      And it bites off your snout
      That's a moray.

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    14. Re:As Dean Martin used to say... by Steneub · · Score: 2, Funny

      When two grids misalign
      And your brain starts to whine
      That's a moire

    15. Re:As Dean Martin used to say... by NotTheEgg · · Score: 1

      When you stare down it's maw, And you see an extra jaw, That's a moray.

    16. Re:As Dean Martin used to say... by lenester · · Score: 1

      See, that's my favorite, because it sounds like kinky flirtation; an appropriate 'amore' pun. Also, this version comes from The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers: Idiots Abroad, a classic if there ever was one.

    17. Re:As Dean Martin used to say... by weirdcrashingnoises · · Score: 1

      i would like to take this moment to thank the parent for the fresh coating of iced tea all over my computer screen.

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  5. Evolution by sxeraverx · · Score: 0

    Could this be a hint that sharks may have evolved from eels? Sharks certainly have multiple sets of teeth, and this seems to be a possible first step from one to the other.

    1. Re:Evolution by aadvancedGIR · · Score: 2, Informative

      IANMB but it seems unlikely.
      Those eels have two distinct sets of jaws with associated muscles, but the sharks only have one set with several layers of teeth (new one are grown all the time on one side of the jaw and push the older ones until they fall).

    2. Re:Evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone knows that peanut butter disproves evolution. :P

    3. Re:Evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well...considering that the earliest shark fossils are millions of years older than the first bony fish fossils I would say no*. Also, although this is interesting it is fairly common in fishes to have extra sets of teeth that are not located on the jaws (e.g. pharyngeal teeth) that can be used to crush or hold prey. Perhaps these species of morays have mechanisms that allow them to protrude their pharyngeal teeth...I guess I need to read the article today.

      * IAAI (I am an ichthyologist)

    4. Re:Evolution by somersault · · Score: 1

      "Also, although this is interesting it is fairly common in fishes to have extra sets of teeth that are not located on the jaws (e.g. pharyngeal teeth) that can be used to crush or hold prey."

      Sounds like a girl I know.

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    5. Re:Evolution by Conanymous+Award · · Score: 2, Informative

      Interesting idea, but prolly not. Sharks and rays are a completely different brand of creatures than the moray eels, which belong to the bony fishes. Sharks, which are cartilaginous fishes, are also far older.

    6. Re:Evolution by fractoid · · Score: 1

      Ahhh hah ha ha... what an awesome spoof of... wait.. WAIT.. *eyes fall out* OMFG THEY'RE SERIOUS!

      So, the fact that some dude this one time opened a jar of peanut butter and it didn't have spontaneous new life forms in it is PROOF that evolution doesn't happen?

      Good God! Should such a fellow exist, he'd be nauseated by such retarded ingenuousness.

      *scoops most of brain out with a rusty spoon*

      Guess what? Nope. Still sounds like it was thought up by the same person that did "My uncle is not a monkey. Therefore evolution doesn't exist." I know some people have semi-believable arguments against evolution (usually of the form "well explain XXX") - these people go so far to discredit such actual thinking debaters as to make it not funny.

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    7. Re:Evolution by chaoticzen · · Score: 1

      That is an incorrect assumption. I just finished watching all the Shark Week shows on my Tivo a couple days ago, and according to the experts sharks existed for over a 100 million years before the dinosaurs and are probably the oldest living complex species that is still here today. They have evolved minimally compared to like humans and reptiles. Besides, I think its been stated here already, sharks and eels are different species because the eels belong to the boney fish category. Although, I have to say I can totally see where you were coming from with that assumption.

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  6. Why is the article tagged Sci-Fi? by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Am I missing something here?

    1. Re:Why is the article tagged Sci-Fi? by haluness · · Score: 2, Informative

      One reason: the alien queen in Aliens (and Aliens 2 3 4) exhibited this type of anatomy. Of course in the movie the inner set of jaws were for biting chewing and drooling ...

    2. Re:Why is the article tagged Sci-Fi? by adycarter · · Score: 4, Informative
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    3. Re:Why is the article tagged Sci-Fi? by jimstapleton · · Score: 1

      maybe because the article presumes a certain intellegence of /.ers that is mostly lacking - hence adding the fiction to the science.

      Or it could be the Alien theory.

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    4. Re:Why is the article tagged Sci-Fi? by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      Okay, but the Xenomorphs of the Alien series of movies weren't eels. This is as much of an article about Sci Fi as an article about nanobots or the so-called 'transporter' technology that allows a single degree of freedom of one electron to be 'transported'. IOW, it's not.

    5. Re:Why is the article tagged Sci-Fi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Parent got modded "insightful"? LOL.

    6. Re:Why is the article tagged Sci-Fi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ITYM

      1 - Alien
      2 - Aliens
      3 - Alien^3
      4 - Alien Resurrection

      I never saw part 4, but I *loved* parts 1 and 3 (3 was funnier than shit). I didn't care for part 2 much.

    7. Re:Why is the article tagged Sci-Fi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh my God, the tag was supposed to be a funny little joke, not taken seriously. Or are you trolling?

    8. Re:Why is the article tagged Sci-Fi? by glwtta · · Score: 4, Funny

      Okay, but the Xenomorphs of the Alien series of movies weren't eels.

      That is the single stupidest thing I've read today (though it's still pretty early).

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    9. Re:Why is the article tagged Sci-Fi? by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      Same reason any article referring to any words used in Star Trek is, regardless of the facts that they're real science.

      But to be fair, it wasn't just Slashdot pandering to geeks, most of the reports in normal (non-scientifc) media mention Alien in the first paragraph.

      But a quick Google for "pharyngeal jaw" finds this is not unique to moray eeels, many species have them, just the moray's is unusually prominent and mobile.

      And since we seem doomed to be discussing the movies here, I wonder now if HR Giger, who designed the Aliens, was aware of these? I'd thought he based the Alien on insect models, but he certainly was well-read in biology.

    10. Re:Why is the article tagged Sci-Fi? by sholden · · Score: 3, Funny

      If the first thing that pops into your head when you read "have two sets of jaws" isn't Alien then you need to watch more movies.

    11. Re:Why is the article tagged Sci-Fi? by mikesd81 · · Score: 1

      The true reason is because I couldn't find anything just marked science or biology or whatever in the topics when I submitted the story. /. really needs to revamp the topic selections for submitting stories.

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    12. Re:Why is the article tagged Sci-Fi? by onemorechip · · Score: 1

      I remember SNL had a spoof of part 2, called "Alienses".

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    13. Re:Why is the article tagged Sci-Fi? by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 1

      Or you have a wider knowledge of things than hollywood movies?

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    14. Re:Why is the article tagged Sci-Fi? by sholden · · Score: 1

      No.

    15. Re:Why is the article tagged Sci-Fi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is the single stupidest thing I've read today (though it's still pretty early).

      I don't know, did you see his sig?

  7. Obligatory Monthy Pythons by aadvancedGIR · · Score: 1

    My Eel is full of teeth.

  8. Can this be trademark infringement by downix · · Score: 1

    H.R. Geiger better be notified, the Eel is copying his Xenomorph Alien! Best get Ridley Sct and James Cameron involved too!

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    1. Re:Can this be trademark infringement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure H. R. Giger will get right on to it as soon as he gives you a good shellacking for misspelling his name.

  9. uh oh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this cant be good, a second set of jaws?
    those films were bad enough the first time round!

    Clearly evolution is taking a page from James Camerons book - we gotta intervene before they start laying eggs with flying things in, and birthing from inside peoples chests!

    1. Re:uh oh. by y86 · · Score: 0

      Well --- A moray with it's second set of jaws looks almost identical to the "chest burster" alien phase. It is quite Eel like -- except it's a land based animal in the movies, however since James Camron's Aliens don't breath I bet it can swim quite well.

      Something to think about the next time your swimming naked in a lake or stream........It's not the 1st set of jaws that will get you.... it's the 2nd set.......

    2. Re:uh oh. by UncleTogie · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Something to think about the next time your swimming naked in a lake or stream........It's not the 1st set of jaws that will get you.... it's the 2nd set....... The scary part? There might be people out there that'd appeal to...
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  10. movie rights by psbrogna · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Anybody else feeling like there's a certain Sci-Fi channel mediocre miniseries in our near future?

    1. Re:movie rights by Psmylie · · Score: 1
      Anybody else feeling like there's a certain Sci-Fi channel mediocre miniseries in our near future?

      Sadly, yes. I always feel certain that there's a mediocre Sci-Fi channel miniseries on the way, even before I'd heard of these double-jawed creepy eel things.

      They'll probably pair it up with an erupting volcano and call it "Double-Jawed Lava Eels"

      What the heck... it can't be worse than Ice Spiders, right?

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    2. Re:movie rights by dougmc · · Score: 1

      Or Mansquito.

  11. That's what she said by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:
    Peter: That's what...
    Brian: If you say "that's what she said" one more time, I am gonna pop you.

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  12. Two jaws? Pah. by pzs · · Score: 2, Interesting
    1. Re:Two jaws? Pah. by mapmaker · · Score: 4, Funny

      Whatever, man. Let me know when you've found a monkey with five asses.

    2. Re:Two jaws? Pah. by clickety6 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Whatever, man. Let me know when you've found a monkey with five asses.

      Et voila - a monkey with five asses:

      George W. Bush
      Dick Cheney
      Donald Rumsfeld
      Condoleezza Rice
      Paul Wolfowitz
      Alberto Gonzales

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    3. Re:Two jaws? Pah. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "This eel has only two sets of jaws. It is useless to me."

    4. Re:Two jaws? Pah. by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      I'll see your 2 headed tortoise, and raise you a double-nosed dog.

      I have actually seen a 2 headed tortoise before, and they are just as boring in real life as a regular tortoise.

  13. Hmm by BlowHole666 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    By dropping the lower jaw and creating a flow of water into their mouths, they draw in the prey. Hmm wonder if my wife is an Eel?
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    1. Re:Hmm by StressGuy · · Score: 1, Funny

      I've wondered that about your wife myself...

      {...sorry, low-hanging fruit...} :)

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    2. Re:Hmm by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      "Hmm wonder if my wife is an Eel?"

      According to my See 'n Say, she's a cow.

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  14. Game Over, Man! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I say we dust off and nuke the oceans from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

  15. Interesting, but front-page worthy? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    The second set of jaws is quite interesting. One of the claims of the Creationists (yeah, it predates ID movement and it has been debunked so thoroughly even IDers don't mention it anymore) is the difference in articulation of the jaw between reptiles and mammals. The way the Creationists said it, the jaw first has to be disarticulated from the joint and then re-articulated around a different bone end and during the interim the animal would not be able to eat. So such an evolution is impossible.

    Then specimens turned up with a doubly articulated reptilian jaw and series of fossil discoveries that show that the middle bones of the doubly articulated jaw moved into the ear canal and became the middle ear bones conducting sound! The missing link was really a linking bone! And God lost one more place to exist.

    It is all very interesting to me, but still I don't think this story deserves to be on the front page.

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    1. Re:Interesting, but front-page worthy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even rational discussion of Creationists is a loosing cause. It is so incredibly wrong that one can't even think about it while keeping rational though in your brain at the same time.

  16. Another fine example of science reporting by sacremon · · Score: 1

    From TFA:

    "It's like a scene from an Aliens movie: a scaly underwater creature looking something like a piranha crossed with a python strikes at its prey which is then reeled deeper into the beast's throat by a second set of toothy jaws."

    Too bad moray eels don't actually have scales...

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  17. Why /. ? by symes · · Score: 0
    Other than a tenuous link with the Alien film which might be somewhat geeky I can't understand why this is newsworthy. Are these eels part of the open source community? I don't think so.

    1. Re:Why /. ? by Overzeetop · · Score: 2, Funny

      Some of us are still sore over Ubuntu not having an "ecstatic eel" release. See, it all ties together.

      Oh, and for the record, the Alien tie-in is reason enough on /. because, well, it's /.

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    2. Re:Why /. ? by JCSoRocks · · Score: 1

      Prejudice abounds! Moray Eels are living beings too! Maybe they want to learn how to use a computer and we just haven't made one that's accessible. We should enact a new law requiring all electronics to have an eel interface to allow them to use them!

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    3. Re:Why /. ? by plague3106 · · Score: 1

      Um, because most geeks here also have an interest in science outside the computer variety. These kind of stories aren't new here... they've been on /. for quite a while now.

    4. Re:Why /. ? by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Other than a tenuous link with the Alien film which might be somewhat geeky I can't understand why this is newsworthy.

      Dude, it's in the science section. For some of us, daily news about science is a good thing. It's something I didn't know when I woke up this morning.

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    5. Re:Why /. ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another nail in the coffin of ID?

    6. Re:Why /. ? by Trogre · · Score: 1

      To say nothing of the total absence of Flatulent Ferret.

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  18. According to NASA by brunes69 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Further on this, according to NASA, 50 double-jawed Moray Eels can chew 100 objects simultaniously. Even further, 100 double-jawed Moray Eels can chew 200 objects.

    1. Re:According to NASA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      Further on this, according to NASA, 50 double-jawed Moray Eels can chew 100 objects simultaniously. Even further, 100 double-jawed Moray Eels can chew 200 objects.


      Yes, but the license EULA limits you to only 10 objects at once

  19. NPR has the video without requiring a subscription by Beltway+Prophet · · Score: 2, Informative

    Halfway down on the left side: "Watch the Moray Eel"

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story Id=14194579

  20. For that matter... by Kortalh · · Score: 0

    Neither do the Aliens.

  21. Stop whining. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is all very interesting to me, but still I don't think this story deserves to be on the front page. Come back tomorrow evening, and it'll no longer be on the front page. Happy?
  22. Oblig. by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1

    We've got to close the beaches!

  23. Re:NPR has the video without requiring a subscript by Beltway+Prophet · · Score: 1

    And, BTW, this is high-speed video of the second jaws in action.

  24. Do you know what that sound is, Highness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those are the shrieking eels! If you don't believe me, just wait. They always grow louder when they're about to feed on human flesh!

    1. Re:Do you know what that sound is, Highness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Grandpa: She doesn't get eaten by the eels at this time
      The Grandson: What?
      Grandpa: The eel doesn't get her. I'm explaining to to because you look nervous.
      The Grandson: I wasn't nervous. Maybe I was a little bit "concerned" but that's not the same thing.

    2. Re:Do you know what that sound is, Highness? by fractoid · · Score: 1

      Following us? Inconceivable!

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  25. Why is this news to them? by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

    Would not eel anatomists have made this discovery years ago?

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    1. Re:Why is this news to them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many eel anatomists do you know? How many do you think I know? How many do you think even exist?

      If I were a university giving out money for marine biology post-docs and I saw an application for funding to catch and dissect eels and an application to catch and dissect sharks, which do you think I would expect to impress the big donors more?

      Lots of interesting things get missed because no one ever thought to look for them.

    2. Re:Why is this news to them? by fractoid · · Score: 1

      It's not like moray eels are an unknown species. I'd have thought SOME research into their basic biology would have been done, if only to classify them. And while they may not be as glam as sharks, they're still some of the biggest freakin' eels around, surely that's cause enough?

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  26. Oblig. Bill Paxton Quote: by GogglesPisano · · Score: 1
  27. Moray Eels Nocturnal? by Late-Eight · · Score: 1

    I think the majority of Moray Eels are nocturnal creatures so "They Mostly Come Out at Night...Mostly"

  28. Dragonflies seem more Alien-like by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 4, Informative
    My favorite Alien-like feeder is the Dragonfly larvae:

    Dragonfly larvae have a remarkable tool at their disposal when hunting prey: their lower lip is modified into a long, hinged jaw terminating in two sharp, hook-like mandibles. This is known as the "mask". When a prey is in sight, the mask is thrust forward and the prey instantly impaled on the hooks, then drawn back to the mouth and eaten. There's also a good video of the jaw in action.
    1. Re:Dragonflies seem more Alien-like by raptorv99 · · Score: 1
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  29. Eely Love by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    When the tide rises high
    And a snake bites your thigh,
    That's a moray!

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    1. Re:Eely Love by trongey · · Score: 1

      That's so beautiful. It brought a little tear to my eye.

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    2. Re:Eely Love by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      I have, in poetry, replicated the harsh kiss of the moray eel.

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  30. Has nobody ever dissected one by karlandtanya · · Score: 1

    I'd think the structure described (no pics?) would be pretty apparent?
    Or did they just think they were vestigal?

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  31. "That's a Moray!" -- Official version by ClickOnThis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Many years ago, somebody actually did write a moray-eel spoof of Dean Martin's "That's Amore". IIRC it was made popular by a group named "Barefoot and Andy", who had numerous scuba-themed songs and played in various clubs near scuba resorts in the Caribbean, including the Cayman Islands (where I heard them once.)

    You can find the lyrics at the bottom of this page:

    http://www.ukdivers.net/life/morays.htm

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  32. Open sores connection... by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1
    Open your hand, and gently wave it back and forth in front of your face... now re-read the summary:

    ...deep...throats...

    "Instead of sucking, one of these ... bites ... with its primary set of teeth. ...then ... The ... jaws clamp down ... in a gulping motion to take in more ... until the whole ... has been swallowed."

    If that doesn't conjure up images of open sores, I don't know what will!

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  33. Thank you. by TechnicolourSquirrel · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Thank you, kdawson. That WILL be all. ......FILE STATUS: CLOSED.

    1. Re:Thank you. by TechnicolourSquirrel · · Score: 1

      Offtopic?! Somebody definitely doesn't know their Aliens references.

  34. Xenomorph !!!! by robert899 · · Score: 1

    Run away!!!

  35. Japanese fishermen may already be on to this... by TheHornedOne · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I wonder what these guys think of this discovery..

  36. pharyngeal jaw by jbeaupre · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A second jaw is not new. In fact, it is a defining characteristic of some fish (cichlids) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cichlid#Anatomy_and_a ppearance.

    Cichlids are a great example of evolution, with some species only a couple thousand years old. The second jaw is thought to be why they are so successful and diverse.

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  37. News? by u8i9o0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Over two decades ago, I noticed a second set of jaws in a moray eel on display at a local pet store.
    If I had known that such an observation was newsworthy, I'd have shown it to more than just my brother and father.

    Since I see this as a non-story, I'll offer an anecdote:

    Seeing the second set made me even more afraid of morays - they're creepy enough with just one set. The worst was seeing one with a body cross section similar in size to a 3 liter soda bottle just a few yards from me while SCUBA diving. Daggers for teeth. That thing could have easily killed anyone in the group. Not something you want to meet that far under water, protected only by a bathing suit and basic SCUBA gear.

    BTW, even though the article makes SciFi comparisons, this article should not be categorized under SciFi. Otherwise, every subject should be categorized under SciFi (find me a subject that cannot be compared to SciFi).

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    1. Re:News? by DerekLyons · · Score: 3, Informative

      Over two decades ago, I noticed a second set of jaws in a moray eel on display at a local pet store.
       
      If I had known that such an observation was newsworthy, I'd have shown it to more than just my brother and father.

      Both the summary and part of the article are written to erroneously imply that the jaws were just discovered... But what was actually discovered (and is newsworthy) is the function of those jaws.
    2. Re:News? by rho · · Score: 1

      I was just gonna say...

      I seem to remember reading this information, and the function, years ago. I mean, a lot of years ago, like in a kids' science book, so going back 25 years or thereabouts. I could be completely wrong, and probably am, but my first reaction when I read the Slashdot article was "I knew that already!"

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    3. Re:News? by Drall · · Score: 1
      What's more, many kinds of predatory fish (salmon, cod, whatever) have sets of teeth down their throats. It'll be interesting to see now whether and how any of these use them in an active fashion.


      Yes! Zooarchaeology geekdom finally pays dividends on /.!!!

  38. "deep in their throats" - deepthroat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /takes coat 'n leaves

  39. 2 jaws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wish my girlfriend did.... one is allways getting worn out...

  40. When an eel bites your leg... by winkydink · · Score: 5, Funny

    and the pain makes you beg
    that's a moray

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    "I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey

    1. Re:When an eel bites your leg... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...or...

      When you swim in the sea
      And an eel bites your knee
      That's a moray.

    2. Re:When an eel bites your leg... by demonbug · · Score: 1

      Someone was listening to NPR this morning...

    3. Re:When an eel bites your leg... by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      Almost a spoof of Spider Robinson's stuff...

      When an eel bites you knee as you swim in the sea, that's a moray

      A New Zealander man with a year 'round tan, thats a Maori

      There's others....

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    4. Re:When an eel bites your leg... by winkydink · · Score: 1

      Someone was listening to NPR this morning...

      I'd sooner bite my own leg. :)

      It's a really, really old pun. I can remember singing it before going snorkeling in Hawaii over 15 years ago.

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  41. Re:Naw, clearly global warming by reddburn · · Score: 1

    Ass.

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  42. Re:Naw, clearly global warming by Stanistani · · Score: 1

    Okay. That was random. Lie down, elevate your head above your rectum (to reverse the flow).

    Perhaps you're consuming too many petroleum products.

    I suggest sequestering some carbon, take two aspirin, and post again in the morning.

  43. A monumental breakthrough! by Klowner · · Score: 1

    After reading the description, the first thing I thought of was the goatse photo... Something is very wrong with me

  44. This just in... by DragonTHC · · Score: 1

    Some eels have been reported to fight off predators with their thick green acid blood.

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    1. Re:This just in... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eelian vs. Predator!!

  45. Is Anyone Else Reminded... by eno2001 · · Score: 1

    ...of the movie Aliens where that internal mouth comes out of the main mouth? What's a redundant?

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  46. Re:Naw, clearly global warming by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

    Who wants to talk about whether global warming exists or not(or war, the economy, our disappearing rights, etc.) when GAY PEOPLE ARE GETTING MARRIED! Come on people, focus! Won't somebody think of the straight children??

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  47. About morays by rs79 · · Score: 1

    Morays are saltwater animals. The fish in the video isn't a moray eel, it's a freshwater tropical fish from a petshop, probably Symbranchius marmorotus. Both it and real morays are covered in this months issue of Tropical Fish Hobbyist magazine.

    I've had S. marmorotus before. They're much less agitated at feeding time than this one is. It mush have been really hungry. Uut you know the lemming story, it's just like Hollywoo... uh, youtube to distort things.

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  48. Intelligently Designed by truckaxle · · Score: 1

    Hey if you are into intelligent design check out the awesomely designed tongue replacement parasite.

    Roll down to "Friday Parasite #10: Tongue Rolling"

    Now only a loving creator could create such a lovable creature such as that.

    1. Re:Intelligently Designed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow that does make you think. My tiny brain can't fathom how those little fellows could evolve so specifically as to actually attach to the tongue muscles, after the original organ atrophied, and perform the duty themselves. That is incredible.

  49. Obligatory? by jtull89 · · Score: 1

    I for one welcome... oh hell, you know the rest.

  50. Nice comeback by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry to insult your religion. - unassimilatible

    1. Re:Nice comeback by reddburn · · Score: 1

      I thought that with an ignorant opinion such as the one you espoused, you simply had to be trolling. Now I'll add "Fool" to the previous comment.

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  51. back to the shrink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ack! Just when I'd gotten over my vagina dentata fear!

    captcha: wedding (tackle)

  52. Freshwater morays do exist by Timothy+Chu · · Score: 1

    I was about to make the same comment as you, but I decided to Google first.

    http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/predatory/freshwat ermoray.php

    Anyway, many fish actually have "teeth" near their throat. Anybody who's ever gutted a relatively large carnivorous fish has probably seen this, though the teeth are more like extensions of the gills. Even my 2-inch bettas have some kind of grinders in their throat. I can hear the crunching sounds they make when they chew on pellets.

  53. And if you pull out their teeth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    they can blow you twice like your GRANDMA.

    ngnggnghghhhh....

  54. Here's another take on the subject ... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

    Dean Martin might have sung it like this:

    "What is that thing with the great ugly teeth ... that's a Moray."

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  55. Re:Naw, clearly global warming by fractoid · · Score: 1

    Exactly! In fact gay marriage is MORE LIKELY to lead to dual-jawed mutant eels than global warming! However, both of these threats to our environment have a sinister common factor - Dihydrogen Monoxide! BAN DHMO!

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  56. Not the only ones by jandersen · · Score: 1

    Most fish have pharyngeal jaws, although they are normally used for crushing rather than 'biting', having bony plates or small teeth. The moray eels have pharyngeal jaws that are used for grabbing prey and drag it into the mouth - most fish will suck their prey into the mouth, but since moray eels live in small crevices in reefs, they don't have enough room for this, so they've evolved this instead.

  57. No pictures by Nephrite · · Score: 1

    Bad TFA. No photos. Not everyone have the time and bandwidth to watch the videos, you know.

  58. Disagree with a lefty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    and get called names instead of discourse. So typical!

    Now go back to the church of global warming. We'll see who the ignoramous is in 10 years when man-made global warming is exposed for the hoax that it is.

    1. Re:Disagree with a lefty by reddburn · · Score: 1

      It's cool... I'll hop on my dinosaur and ride it to your house and apologize when that happens.

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