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Scientists Develop Cyborg Interface Algorithm

StCredZero writes "A ZDNet article discusses advances in the translation of brain activity to electronic control being made at MIT. Their approach allows a paralyzed individual to manipulate a prosthetic - but that's not the important advance. 'Other scientists have already done that, and built prototypes for neural brain-to-machine devices that can work for animals or humans. But each team has taken a different approach to the problem, such as developing algorithms for measuring activity in a specific brain region, or measuring them through EEGs vs. optical imaging. MIT said that it has developed a unified algorithm that can work within the parameters of these different approaches. Lakshminarayan "Ram" Srinivasan, lead author of a paper on the subject, said MIT's new graphical models are applicable no matter what measurement technique is used. "We don't need to reinvent a new paradigm for each modality or brain region," he said in a statement.'"

110 comments

  1. I for one... by gbulmash · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...welcome our future cyborg overlords.

    1. Re:I for one... by AmaDaden · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...welcome our standardized future cyborg overlords.
      Fixed

    2. Re:I for one... by GreyPoopon · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...welcome our standardized future cyborg overlords.

      Resistance is futile.

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    3. Re:I for one... by gbulmash · · Score: 1

      Well, they wouldn't pass muster if they weren't standards compliant.

    4. Re:I for one... by Spokehedz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Resistance is futile, but capacitance has potential!

    5. Re:I for one... by Jadware · · Score: 0

      I for one welcome the script kiddies who backdoored off a drm rookit installed on our future cybord overlords.

    6. Re:I for one... by Mingco · · Score: 2, Funny

      Inductance reluctantly agrees.

    7. Re:I for one... by lordSaurontheGreat · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Okay, it was funny the first 90,000 times, but it's getting a bit old... who the heck is continuing to mod these as funny? Is there some cult of the "i for one welcome our new " that I'm not aware of?

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    8. Re:I for one... by SleptThroughClass · · Score: 1

      That should be "beep blorp blorp sqeeeamblat!"

    9. Re:I for one... by ppc_digger · · Score: 1

      You must be new here.

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    10. Re:I for one... by IdeaMan · · Score: 1

      welcome our future non-cyborged underlings.

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    11. Re:I for one... by lordSaurontheGreat · · Score: 1

      Touché.

      However, that too is another overly-used bad joke. And trust me, I know bad humor. If I were on a roll any longer, I'd be in the oven!

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  2. Nickname by iknownuttin · · Score: 2, Funny
    Lakshminarayan "Ram" Srinivasan, lead author of a paper on the subject,...

    I wish I had that kind of creativity. I tried going by the nickname of "Big Dick", but folks just laughed.

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    1. Re:Nickname by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Then try using the name "Maha-lingam"

    2. Re:Nickname by east+coast · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why are you waughing? I have a very close fweind named Biggus Dickus.

      I demand that you stop waughing!

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    3. Re:Nickname by Arcane_Rhino · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Dude, don't worry 'bout the mods. Monty Python is never off topic.

    4. Re:Nickname by glavenoid · · Score: 1

      Unless you're a ruby (on rails) dev...

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    5. Re:Nickname by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Dude, don't worry 'bout the mods. Monty Python is never off topic.

      A moose bit my sister once. :-P
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    6. Re:Nickname by colourmyeyes · · Score: 1

      Please tell me there's a Rod on the team.

      "You didn't say car Ramrod!"

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    7. Re:Nickname by Kongming · · Score: 1

      It's not Monty Python, it's Mel Brooks. Perhaps you've had too much "mighty joint" to remember?

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    8. Re:Nickname by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      it is monty python.

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  3. John Donoghue's Cyberkinetics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Manufactures BrainGate, a device which Slashdot has reported on multiple times in years past. Trades as CYKN or CYKN.OB on the pink sheets. Currently at historical lows. Look into it if you want a nice deal.

  4. *yawn* by kevlarsoul · · Score: 2

    Wake me when this is applied to something useful. I'll be first in line to reduce myself to a bloody torso if I can replace all my limbs with robotic replacements. Then I will be your cybernetically enhanced overlord.

    1. Re:*yawn* by CheeseburgerBrown · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wake me when this is applied to something useful.

      Right -- because giving paralyzed people the ability to locomote and manipulate objects isn't remotely useful, is it? After all, who will buy supper for the accessibility ramp-makers once their industry dries up?

      I'm sending my quadruplegic friend over to your house right now to beat you up.

    2. Re:*yawn* by GenP · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'll bite your knees off!

    3. Re:*yawn* by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's not really being applied to that yet though. At the moment it's still just the promise of something on the horizon. I suspect the parent was just tired of too much hype with too little real world application.

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    4. Re:*yawn* by crgrace · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Academic researchers do hype their stuff prematurely, but it is the nature of the game. Traditional, forward-looking funding has dried up, and NIH and NSF now require "results". That is complete bullshit of course, so these "results" are now of course lame press releases.

      For example, it used to be that you could get money to torture small animals just for the hell of it... now you have to write your grant proposal in terms of "helping society".

      Old NSF Proposal "Torturing Zebra finches by putting neural probes into their heads then killing them to slice their brains up can lead to increased knowledge of visual pathways in the brain".

      New NSF Proposal "Torturing Zebra finches by putting neural probes into their heads then killing them to slice their brains up can lead to increased knowledge of visual pathways in the brain may lead to new modalities of therapy for patients with degenerative eye disease".

    5. Re:*yawn* by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 1

      Don't forget tossing in the word terrorism or war. OK, not quite as possible now, but I remember for a while you couldn't develop a new type of toothpick without detailing how sparkly white teeth would help soldiers.

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    6. Re:*yawn* by FleaPlus · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Academic researchers do hype their stuff prematurely, but it is the nature of the game.

      Um, do you have any evidence of the researcher in question over-hyping his research? As far as I can tell, all the hyping was done by the person writing the ZDnet article.

    7. Re:*yawn* by crgrace · · Score: 2, Insightful

      FleaPlus,

      The fact that the researcher is talking to a journalist prior to the research publication is strong evidence he is over-hyping his research. The way a journalist should learn about research is by reading a peer-reviewed article. Not a press release. Note that the article states the research WILL be published in the Journal of Neurophysiology. The only reason the researcher is talking to a journalist now is HYPE. Pure and simple.

      Carl

    8. Re:*yawn* by crgrace · · Score: 1

      Joe,

      Thanks for that. Also, be sure not to call them soldiers. If you want anything from DARPA, you must be sure to call them "warfighters". Excuse me while I throw up and thank my lucky stars I'm out of academia.

      Maybe we could submit a DARPA/NSF proposal to stick neural probes in Zebra finches to increase the effectiveness of the America Warfighter.

      1. Torture Small Animals (preferably in a high-tech way such as with high-impedance neural probes)
      2. Collect data
      3. ???
      4. Enhance the effectiveness of the American Warfighter

    9. Re:*yawn* by sqrrl101 · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't say that. Whilst man-machine interfaces aren't common treatments yet, the technology they're based on is. Deep Brain Stimulation involves sending tiny electrical pulses deep into the brain using a pacemaker-like device, and has allowed well over 10,000 Parkinson's patients regain a huge amount of mobility.

    10. Re:*yawn* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then with your robotic replacements you would have a bloody stump.

      Tech Support: What seems to be the problem sir.
      Stumpy: These new arms you installed won't stop pulling my root.
      Tech Support: Let me guess, your a virgin?
      Stumpy: Yes
      Tech Support: Then you need to install the patch called never-layed.
      Tech Support: We have been so /.ed because of this someone there should be able to help you install the patch.

    11. Re:*yawn* by FleaPlus · · Score: 1
      The fact that the researcher is talking to a journalist prior to the research publication is strong evidence he is over-hyping his research.

      Below is the researcher's statement in the article about what he's done. Does it seem like he's over-hyping to you? All he's doing is discussing an algorithm he's developed. Also, I'm not sure if it's only available to institutional subscribers, but the article is available in advance of publication here.

      MIT said that it has developed a unified algorithm that can work within the parameters of these different approaches. Lakshminarayan "Ram" Srinivasan, lead author of a paper on the subject, said MIT's new graphical models are applicable no matter what measurement technique is used.

      "We don't need to reinvent a new paradigm for each modality or brain region," he said in a statement.

      Still, he said, the algorithm isn't perfect, nor the final solution to solving what is a difficult problem. "Translating an algorithm into a fully functioning clinical device will require a great deal of work, but also represents an intriguing road of scientific and engineering development for the years to come," according to MIT.
  5. Obligatory... by Starteck81 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Murphy, is that you in there?

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    1. Re:Obligatory... by AgentPaper · · Score: 1

      Directive 4, *IAA-style: Any attempt to view, hear or access "protected content" results in shutdown.

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  6. Humor? by packetmon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Still, he said, the algorithm isn't perfect, nor the final solution to solving what is a difficult problem.

    Lawyer: Did you mean to shoot your wife||husband?
    Defendant: I was so mad I may have thought about it but in no way did I consciously shoot him. My arm has a mind of his own
    DA: Objection your honor, defendant is saying what amounts to their "neural prosthetic aid that can link an individual's brain activity to the person's intentions; and then translate that intention into movement." that is just not possible.
    Laywer: Your honor, we have Slashdot, Groklaw and MIT printouts which show the validity of the defendant's claim
    Judge: Sustained

    1. Re:Humor? by necro2607 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, it's pretty funny you bring that up, as there's a Ghost In The Shell episode in which this very sort of situation occurs.

      A man with cybernetic limbs shoots and kills a woman. During the court trials, his defense lawyer (highly experienced with defending people with cybernetic prosthetics) says that the defendant wasn't used to his newly upgraded/installed cybernetic body parts (and the new control software for them) and thus fired the gun unintentionally.

      When I saw this episode, it was a bit of a shock to consider those kinds of situations where the natural self-control we take for granted could potentially no longer be in place, if we were to start to rely on technology to take the place of our physical bodies...

    2. Re:Humor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you mean "over-ruled"....what judge is going to allow an objection in the face of slashdotian evidence...

    3. Re:Humor? by spleen_blender · · Score: 1

      Why do we make the assumption that humans are inherently more reliable in controlling their own body than some alternative interface? I suppose the problem is that we have nothing with which to compare. We can't look at how many people simply go crazy and kill people and compare that percent to how many cyborgs do the same. Damn you ethics. I want my chainsaw arms now.

    4. Re:Humor? by shbazjinkens · · Score: 1

      A man with cybernetic limbs shoots and kills a woman. During the court trials, his defense lawyer (highly experienced with defending people with cybernetic prosthetics) says that the defendant wasn't used to his newly upgraded/installed cybernetic body parts (and the new control software for them) and thus fired the gun unintentionally.

      When I saw this episode, it was a bit of a shock to consider those kinds of situations where the natural self-control we take for granted could potentially no longer be in place, if we were to start to rely on technology to take the place of our physical bodies...
      So what are you trying to say, the second amendment doesn't apply to handicapped people now? I'm dialing the NRA emergency hotline right now.
    5. Re:Humor? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      A man with cybernetic limbs shoots and kills a woman. During the court trials, his defense lawyer (highly experienced with defending people with cybernetic prosthetics) says that the defendant wasn't used to his newly upgraded/installed cybernetic body parts (and the new control software for them) and thus fired the gun unintentionally.

      I haven't seen that episode but let me guess... It turned out that his arm was actually hacked by another Section in order to kill the woman for various political reasons with various political ramifications that are explained through fifteen minutes of exposition while Sec 9 drives around town?

      I kid, much love for GitS, but the show is often -way- too true to the more obnoxious parts of Shiro Masumune's writing style. :)

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    6. Re:Humor? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      it's not an "assumption" that it's "inherently" more reliable. It's a practical reality that there is no interface as reliable as the one we are born with, in large degree because every interface we have so far built or conceived of uses the existing one in some way and tries to interpret the results and thus are -at least- as unreliable as our own body interface.

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    7. Re:Humor? by Knara · · Score: 1

      A man with cybernetic limbs shoots and kills a woman. During the court trials, his defense lawyer (highly experienced with defending people with cybernetic prosthetics) says that the defendant wasn't used to his newly upgraded/installed cybernetic body parts (and the new control software for them) and thus fired the gun unintentionally.

      I haven't seen that episode but let me guess... It turned out that his arm was actually hacked by another Section in order to kill the woman for various political reasons with various political ramifications that are explained through fifteen minutes of exposition while Sec 9 drives around town?

      I kid, much love for GitS, but the show is often -way- too true to the more obnoxious parts of Shiro Masumune's writing style. :)

      The episode is actually a hybrid/new one based on Motoko's trial in the original manga. In this case, the defense lawyer was using the offender's cybernetic parts and the S9 "defendant"'s lack of cybernetics (in Stand Alone Complex, Tosuga has no cybernetics other than his cyberbrain, which seems to be different than in the origina manga) to prove that Tosuga deliberately sought to harm and discriminate against the offender in his alleged use of excessive force to detain the offender. It's actually a rather good episode, but one of the less action oriented aside from the teaser section that sets up the plot, and as an aside, I think is the only time they really even mention ghost keys more than passingly in the SAC series of episodes.

    8. Re:Humor? by Afecks · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That conclusion goes against millions of years of evolution and modern computers. There is nothing uncommon about inferior mechanisms creating superior mechanisms. How do you think we got here today?

      Stop trying to get in the way of my X-RAY VISION and the STRENGTH OF 5 GORILLAS!!!

    9. Re:Humor? by TemporalBeing · · Score: 1

      Lawyer: Did you mean to shoot your wife||husband? Defendant: I was so mad I may have thought about it but in no way did I consciously shoot him. My arm has a mind of his own
      Feel sorry for the man when a thought goes stray in anger in the rest room...

      On a serious note though, you certainly wouldn't want this connected to the Internet (or any network) in order to protect somewhat again hackers...perhaps it would need some shielding too to keep from line-of-sight hacking.
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    10. Re:Humor? by djasbestos · · Score: 1

      Never mind the whole pointing-of-the-gun part...kinda like "oh my god, why did you shoot that robber?? He just pointed a gun at you, it's not like he was going to shoot you."

      Someone once said: "Never point a gun at a man unless you intend to shoot him. Never shoot a man unless you intend to kill him."

      It's just another thing for us to blame our lack of MENTAL self-control on. I didn't see it, but I'm assuming the point of that episode was that people are still responsible (or should be held as such, anyways) for their actions.

    11. Re:Humor? by hitmark · · Score: 1

      in many ways its the same as arguing that someone under the influence did something they didnt intend to do because they didnt have full control over their own body...

      but yes, gits:sac is surprisingly deep in this way.

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    12. Re:Humor? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      I don't think you got what I was saying. Our current 'cybernetic' interfaces -- both practical and experimental -- use the signals created in our existing motor-control network to operate the machine. Either by being directly wired in, or by using some other stimulus -- like the artificial arms that detect muscle twitches in the patient's stump to activate the motors in the arm. It's a layered interface, one level of abstraction on top of another.

      This has a practical engineering implication regarding reliability: If it is possible for your brain-muscle interface to 'accidentally' tell your arm to shoot someone, then with a cybernetic limb it is possible for your brain-muscle interface to tell your arm to shoot someone OR for the interface between your neurons and the cybernetics to misinterpret the signal and 'accidentally' think it was supposed to shoot someone. An failure in either level of the interface can cause the negative effect, meaning the odds of failure are higher than in either layer of the interface alone.

      Absolutely modern computer technology bears this out. An error in any level of your tcp/ip stack will break your network app. As will a failure in the network fabric. Or at the other end's stack. And thus the overall error rate is higher than any single step, because they're dependent.

      If you'll notice, I said this wasn't inherent in cybernetics, I said it was a practical reality in current and most proposed interfaces. If you want your x-ray visions and gorilla strength, you'd do well to pay attention to the practical engineering realities.

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    13. Re:Humor? by skeftomai · · Score: 1

      When I saw this episode, it was a bit of a shock to consider those kinds of situations where the natural self-control we take for granted could potentially no longer be in place, if we were to start to rely on technology to take the place of our physical bodies...

      I doubt that a person's consciousness could be transferred to machine (at that point the consciousness becoming entirely non-physical). Maybe all the neurons and other components in the brain could be replaced with artificial versions, but consciousness would still be physical in nature. And maybe a copy of the person's consciousness could be uploaded to and active on some machine, but could the original person's consciousness be moved to a machine and the person still be the same person?

    14. Re:Humor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (ignoring the trial above, think about the following about mental self control)
      Ever daydream or smell something and think of a memory or a place? We tend to judge on actions not thoughts, if this thing would actually base its actions on your thought, it could do things you did not intend to do, how would we know/determine the difference? Re: Autonomous Vehicles, if the vehicle crashes, is it your fault or the manufacturers?

    15. Re:Humor? by Coulson · · Score: 1

      How do you know you are the same person you were 10 minutes ago? Or a year ago? Memory is the only evidence we have for the continuity of identity. A copy of your consciousness and memories is you. You and your copy only diverge when one of you has a unique (non-copied) experience.

      This is similar to the Star Trek teleporter question: assuming a teleporter works by breaking you down and reassembleing you elsewhere, how do you know that the person on the far end is still you? What if the teleporter malfunctions and fails to destroy the copy on the near end? Which one is the real you?

      Protip: either consciousness can be copied losslessly, or you should be very wary of teleporters.

    16. Re:Humor? by SquareVoid · · Score: 1

      What you call obnoxious I call truly epic. O well, different strokes.

    17. Re:Humor? by necro2607 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hey, look at the software that runs your PC. You think that is more reliable than your own brain, for controlling limbs on your body accurately? heh! ;)

    18. Re:Humor? by Nullav · · Score: 1

      Shiny metal ass or not, it's all going to be driven by the same old brains as before. Also, the idea of 'accidentally intentionally' doing something does make sense when you realize that one of the things keeping us from doing whatever we feel like (besides fear of retaliation) is the effort required to do so. In short, the weight of your body holds you back to some extent.
      If you have an arm that can move with no conscious effort on your part (save for the initiating thought) and moves under its own power, I could definitely see people making a few extra movements every now and then (though nothing as complex as pulling out a gun, taking off the safety, aiming and firing. More like punching and other simple movements.)

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    19. Re:Humor? by skeftomai · · Score: 1

      Hope I did not sound arrogant -- not my intention.

      One thing that makes me question is that if two copies existed at the same time, (I think) clearly both could not be the exact same conscious person (i.e. I think they would likely have separate experiences).

    20. Re:Humor? by skeftomai · · Score: 1

      one more thing... Suppose the components of a person's brain were slowly replaced with artificial ones, and eventually the whole brain became an artificial machine. Would this still be the same same person (i.e. would they in their experience have died and there now be something else in their place now?)? Not sure, but I would probably say yes. What if, then, bit by bit this artificial brain became dependent on a non-physical software representation of this brain? That's where I puzzle...I wonder if there would come a point where the person in their experience would die (even if not detectable).

    21. Re:Humor? by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      But I run Linux!

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  7. Final Solution by bostons1337 · · Score: 0
    You know its not good when the word Cyborg and

    the final solution are used together.
  8. don't we ever learn?! by valkabo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did no one watch Voyager?! This is how the end starts.. First we're all happy people with our little cyborg chips to control our sex bots, then suddenly we take real women and make them sex bots.. and they'd be all like "I love Mr. God man" and be rubbing us, and feeding us grapes.. maybe serving ice cold beer. .. .. .. Where can I buy these chips??

    1. Re:don't we ever learn?! by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 3, Funny

      Did no one watch Voyager?! No, no one.

    2. Re:don't we ever learn?! by User+956 · · Score: 1

      It looks like this guy does, which explains the nickname.

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    3. Re:don't we ever learn?! by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      No, but I have seen the health-class gross-out video, "I Dated a Robot"!

    4. Re:don't we ever learn?! by Knara · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I actually stopped watching it because it was often just so tedious. Was this some sort of Borg origin story?

    5. Re:don't we ever learn?! by valkabo · · Score: 0

      Honestly while writing that post I half wanted to just go: "Did no one watch voyager?!" and then: "Me either.. stupid chick for a captian."

    6. Re:don't we ever learn?! by Arcane_Rhino · · Score: 1

      Did they ever actually kill her off? After the third teaser I quit watching.

    7. Re:don't we ever learn?! by imgod2u · · Score: 1

      I have no idea what you're talking about and I did watch Voyager for a while there. Though it could be that I just blocked most of it out of my mind.

  9. Computer Science Tenet by Mike+Morgan · · Score: 4, Funny

    Anything is solvable with another layer of abstraction.

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    1. Re:Computer Science Tenet by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 3, Funny

      Anything is solvable with another layer of abstraction. That's it! We'll have virtual cyborg arms! We could try the whole thing a virtualization first, and then....but wait! Why stop there! We'll just make whole virtual cyborg bodies! After that, who needs real bodies! The brain'll be a sort of hypervisor ... you could be three people at once!

      What? Why is everyone looking at me like that?
    2. Re:Computer Science Tenet by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      Because your locked mutex is showing. Boy, is that one non-scalable scheduling algorithm!

    3. Re:Computer Science Tenet by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Anything is solvable with another layer of abstraction.

      Not really. You just come up with a nice theoretical framework, and if someone can fill in the miracle between layers 2 and 4, you're golden.

      It's not actually solved, it's just really great on paper. :-P

      Cheers
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  10. Marketing Engineering? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1
    What's with the corporate speak:

    reinvent a new paradigm for each modality That makes my head hurt, even when it comes from a research engineer.
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    1. Re:Marketing Engineering? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Any PHB knows that the real research engineers strive to enable knowledge-based decision making based on real-time information by implementing an enterprise content management system.

  11. Brain Layer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the summary, it sounds like they've invented a brain-layer. (DNRTFA)

    Something about MS here...

  12. ob. matrix by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 1

    This is going to feel...a little weird.

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  13. algorithm discovered by InlawBiker · · Score: 5, Funny

    10 FOR I = 1 TO 50 20 WALK 30 IF ROBOT = BUMPINTOSOMETHING THEN GOTO 50 40 NEXT I 50 PRINT "Ouch!"; 60 TURNAROUND 70 GOTO 10

    1. Re:algorithm discovered by djlosch · · Score: 3, Funny

      "what does your robot do?
      it collects data about the surrounding environment, then discards it and drives into walls"
      -- c/o bash.org

    2. Re:algorithm discovered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Sorry, I know, but someone had to dissect your algorithm ... might as well be me.

      Every 50 "walks", he is going to say "ouch" even if he didn't bumpintosomething ...

      Jesus, I just realised I learnt BASIC over 30 years ago ... now that's scary :-(

    3. Re:algorithm discovered by InlawBiker · · Score: 1

      I blame the testers!

    4. Re:algorithm discovered by MBGMorden · · Score: 2, Funny

      My gawd. His algorithm not only walks around a room full of obstacles, but it's also apparently capable of initiating a personal injury suit! True AI genius.

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    5. Re:algorithm discovered by d_54321 · · Score: 1

      I was thinking of something more like:

      while(armMissing()){

          if (!debug){

              crushKillDestroy();

          }

          petKitty();

      }

  14. Possible consiquences by Voltageaav · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The mouse and keyboard would no longer be needed. You would likely be able to interface with computers much faster as well allowing people to get more work done in a day, but at the possible cost of less motion needed. People with a chip in their head could possibly work from their bed, with just a screen on the ceiling. Advances in robotics will allow robot servants. They already have toy versions of these. Laziness is already a problem, and it will only grow as people have to do less and less. I know it's still a long way in the making, and I can't wait for things like this to become mainstream, but also fear it a little.

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    Someone save me from this sanity.
    1. Re:Possible consiquences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey I work from my bed with my laptop on my chest, and I dont have any chip on me. I just cannot stay up or seated anymore, I dont call it laziness, I call it productivity...

  15. Brain-Computer interface are... by N1ck0 · · Score: 1

    For Porn!

    Why you think the matrix was born?
    Porn porn porn!

  16. So... by Cleon · · Score: 1

    Sounds like they adapted the OO concept of abstract classes to neural devices.

    Lakshminarayan "Ram" Srinivasan, lead author of a paper on the subject

    As in the Long Island Srinivasans?

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    1. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, of course, because Long Island, New York, is the ONLY place in the entire world where you find people with the last name Srinivasan.

  17. Only a matter of time... by StCredZero · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...until we have 14 year olds piloting mecha to save the world. (Okay, the Eva aren't mecha exactly, but that's one of my favorite series.)

    1. Re:Only a matter of time... by ThePengwin · · Score: 1

      Mecha don't have S2 Engines, or souls :D

  18. It must be great to work at MIT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... everything you do is automatically considered to be a groundbreaking success worthy of broad media attention regardless of whether it work.

    Still, he said, the algorithm isn't perfect, nor the final solution to solving what is a difficult problem.

    "the algorithm isn't perfect".. that's no surprise. You would have to decode the atomic functioning of our neural networks for it to come close to being "perfect." And as anyone in neurology can tell you, we are nowhere close to doing so. But the buzzwords are there and so is the MIT name.

  19. Re:Possible consiquences the matrix by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

    And so the matrix is born, where we lie in bed endlessly not moving because we can do it all from there, then we develop our virtual worlds (wait thats already been done)...
    then we finalize it by sticking tubes into us, so we dont have to go get food or go to the bathroom.....great...where do i sign up!

    "I'm not so bad, once you get to know me"

  20. Beware John Donoghue's Cyberkinetics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Braingate is a marvelous device (though companies like Hitachi and Honda have been pursuing noninvasive interfaces which if successful would make it obsolete), but CYKN as a stock has lost 1300% over the years, and the company has lost most of its valuable executives recently as well.

    The company is a mess and investing in it may not be wise. It does have a decent portfolio of patents, but the current focus is on the questionable Andara product, not Braingate.

  21. Does it run TRON? by JackMeyhoff · · Score: 1
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    http://www.rense.com/general79/wdx1.htm
  22. Going the wrong way by tchdab1 · · Score: 1

    How far along are they with the DNA patch that will allow brain cells to interpret and transmit XML?

  23. Yawning NOW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    all of you responding to this thread with that subject line made me YAWN!

  24. Yes, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can it get my cyborg to say, "Fuck you, asshole" in an Austrian accent?

  25. Impressive, but... by Experiment+626 · · Score: 1

    In Soviet Borg Cube, cybernetic implants control YOU!

  26. Mind/Machine Interface // Neural Graphing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mind/Machine Interface
    The Warrior's bland acronym, MMI, obscures the true horror of
    this monstrosity. Its inventors promise a new era of genius, but
    meanwhile unscrupulous power brokers use its forcible installation
    to violate the sanctity of unwilling human minds. They are
    creating their own private army of demons.
    -Pravin Lal

    Neural Graphing
    I think, and my thoughts cross the barrier into the synapses of the
    machine, just as the good doctor intended. But what I cannot shake,
    and what hints at things to come, is that thoughts cross back. In my
    dreams, the sensibility of the machine invades the periphery of my
    consciousness: dark, rigid, cold, alien. Evolution is at work here,
    but just what is evolving remains to be seen.
    -Pravin Lal

    I'm not sure how good the future will necessarily be, caution seems to be in order.

  27. Great. This is "TrulyDirectX" by CFD339 · · Score: 1

    Just wait for Windows Cyborg/Pro with TrulyDirectX 12!

    The BSOD becomes the BSOD (Black Shroud of Death) however, which means you really want to test this stuff better.

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    The problem with quotes on the internet, is that nobody bothers to check their veracity. -- Abraham Lincoln
  28. Where do I sign? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, please tell me when this is invented. I wanna be the second guy to get it installed (the first guy may or may not make it, I wanna see if he walks away from the procedure).

    Anything that let me work from bed would be a godsend. Screw working in your underwear... I'm gonna work nude, while enjoying "extracurricular activities" with my girlfriend.
    --
    "Move over honey, I can't see the spreadsheet."

  29. Hive mind by EnsilZah · · Score: 1

    You're thinking too small, with brain to computer connection you can go to brain to computer to brain, people in society are already specialized for specific work the way our cells are, humanity can become one huge organism!

    Or maybe I've just read too much Sci-Fi.

  30. I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Welcome our meme spouting underlings.

  31. Re:AC develops FP algorithm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Simply fascinating. Where did the first two posts go?

  32. Research abstract by FleaPlus · · Score: 1
    It doesn't seem to have been posted yet, so here's the research abstract and a link to the actual paper describing the research:

    General Purpose Filter Design for Neural Prosthetic Devices

    Lakshminarayan Srinivasan1*, Uri Tzvi Eden2, Sanjoy K. Mitter3, and Emery N Brown

    Brain-driven interfaces depend on estimation procedures to convert neural signals to inputs for prosthetic devices that can assist individuals with severe motor deficits. Previous estimation procedures were developed on an application-specific basis. Here we report a coherent estimation framework that unifies these procedures and motivates new applications of prosthetic devices driven by action potentials, local field potentials (LFP), electrocorticography (ECoG), electroencephalography (EEG), electromyography (EMG), or optical methods. The brain-driven interface is described as a probabilistic relationship between neural activity and components of a prosthetic device that may take on discrete or continuous values. A new estimation procedure is developed for action potentials, and a corresponding procedure is described for field potentials and optical measurements. We test our framework against dominant approaches in an arm reaching task using simulated traces of ensemble spiking activity from primary motor cortex (MI), and a wheelchair navigation task using simulated traces of EEG-band power. Adaptive filtering is incorporated to demonstrate performance under neuron death and discovery. Finally, we characterize performance under model misspecification using physiologically realistic history dependence in MI spiking. These simulated results predict that the unified framework outperforms previous approaches under various conditions, in the control of position and velocity, based on trajectory and endpoint mean squared errors.
  33. Barracks graffiti by Repton · · Score: 1

    A handsome young cyborg named Ace
    Wooed women at every base
    But once ladies glanced at
    His special enhancement
    They vanished with nary a trace.
    -- Barracks graffiti, Sparta Command

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    Repton.
    They say that only an experienced wizard can do the tengu shuffle.
  34. I for one... by mdenham · · Score: 1
    ...await the poor idiots who, on Linux, do the following:

    mount /dev/brain
    rm -rf /

  35. But... by Synthaxx · · Score: 1

    Does it run linux users?

  36. Psionics by AP31R0N · · Score: 1

    i would like to encourage the use of the term Psionics for mind machine interface. Avionics are electronics related to aviation.

    [OffTopic]

    "A ZDNet article discusses advances in the translation of brain activity to electronic control being made at MIT"

    Awkward sentence construction makes baby Jeebus cry.

    A ZDNet article discusses MIT's advances in the translation of brain activity to electronic control.

    See, it's more succinct and direct.

    Here are the hints that you are using passive voice and other grammatical goofery: has been, being (verb), were.... Your past tense forms of "to be". Using active and direct verbs. Who did what to whom.

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  37. I need two more things to make this work. by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    A way to backup my memories to the 4 PetaByte Hard Drive. This way I will NOT miss another Birthday, Anniversary, or Party; And with the hardware, I can get there on time, finally. Dawn, I need this stuff NOW!