'I Was a Hacker for the MPAA'

Wired has up an article with a man named Robert Anderson, who was recruited by the MPAA in 2005 to inform on people in the BitTorrent community. In a tell-all interview with the site, Anderson explains how the powerful media organization encouraged him to obtain the information they were looking for: "According to Anderson, the MPAA told him: 'We would need somebody like you. We would give you a nice paying job, a house, a car, anything you needed.... if you save Hollywood for us you can become rich and powerful.' In 2005, the MPAA paid Anderson $15,000 for inside information about TorrentSpy -- information at the heart of a copyright-infringement lawsuit brought by the MPAA against TorrentSpy of Los Angeles. The material is also the subject of a wiretapping countersuit against the MPAA brought by TorrentSpy's founder, Justin Bunnell, who alleges the information was obtained illegally."

Comments

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[Anonymous Coward]

Mister Anderson...

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[mfh]

No, Neo would never work for the robots.

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[im just cannonfodder]

This maybe a silly question but isn't hacking illegal in the usa as part of GW,Bush's anti terror laws? If this is the case shouldn't the mpaa members all now be under investigation by the cia/fbi?

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[Feyr]

patriot does not apply to true american companies and bush's cronies, especially if it prevents them from making money and/or protecting the True American Dream

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[Anonymous Coward]

This maybe a silly question but isn't hacking illegal in the usa as part of GW,Bush's anti terror laws?

Look, Wired can be forgiven, since they're clueless nerd wannabes*, but damn it man, this is slashdot. Look at the masthead. Then get your wannabe ass off my lawn and no, you can't have your balls back.

When I took transistor radios and turned them into guitar fuzzboxes as a teenager, that was hacking. When Delbert McGeekly quickly writes a few lines of code to get the server running again, that's hacking. When Joey Pimpleface finds some code on the internet that lets him sniff out some doofus' password, that is not hacking Goddamnit!!!!! That's cracking you clueless dweeb.

Only laymen refer to breaking into computer systems as "hacking". If you think breaking into computers is hacking, you don't belong at slashdot.

-mcgrew

*The linked text is titled "What is a nerd?" When I was a teenager, "nerd" and "geek" were insults. We were scorned, shunned, and made fun of. Who would have thought that some day we would actually be respected, to the point that the jocks and cheerleaders would actually try to pass themselves off as us?

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[peterpi]

You're pissing into the wind.

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[morgan_greywolf]

Yes. 1030. Fraud and related activity in connection with computers states that:

[Anyone who] ...knowingly and with intent to defraud, accesses a protected computer without authorization, or exceeds authorized access, and by means of such conduct furthers the intended fraud and obtains anything of value, unless the object of the fraud and the thing obtained consists only of the use of the computer and the value of such use is not more than $5,000 in any 1-year period; The term "protected computer" is defined as:

(B) which is used in interstate or foreign commerce or communication, including a computer located outside the United States that is used in a manner that affects interstate or foreign commerce or communication of the United States; (i) the offense was committed for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain;

(ii) the offense was committed in furtherance of any criminal or tortious act in violation of the Constitution or laws of the United States or of any State Hello, Mr. Federal Prosecutor? Where are you?

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[jackharrer]

patriot does not apply to true american companies(tm) and bush's cronies(r), especially if it prevents them from making money and/or protecting the True American Dream(tm)

Fixed it for you!

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[ResidntGeek]

I want you to read this following line very carefully:

SHUT UP.

You're fighting a battle which was stupid even before it was lost, 10 years ago. To the general population, when Joey Pimpleface finds some code on the internet that lets him sniff out some doofus's password, that is hacking. That makes it the case, whether you like it or not. You're never, ever going to realign the definition of the term, not even if you did more than post on slashdot about it (which you won't). Do what you do with every other word in the damn language, and use it the same way everyone else does. Suddenly, magically, you'll find you can communicate with other lifeforms! Imagine that!

By the way,

Who would have thought that some day we would actually be respected, to the point that the jocks and cheerleaders would actually try to pass themselves off as us?

You're so naive I almost hate to burst your bubble on that one, but no. Leaving aside your high-school perception of the world, the thing that set nerds and geeks apart is lack of social skills. I can assure you "jocks and cheerleaders", as you so eloquently put it, do not try to imitate an inability to socialize. Geeks and nerds are respected once they learn how to socialize, to become like the "jocks and cheerleaders" in that sense.

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[MadJo]

Geez, lay off the caffeine next time.

"Hacking" or "to hack" has many different meanings already. (The term was not invented by those 'hackers', and will not be the sole property of said hackers.
Google and Xerox don't like it when their name is used as a verb, but it still happens. If you don't believe me, then google it.)

Merriam Webster defines "hack" as follows:

Main Entry:

Pronunciation:
        \hak\
Function:
        verb
Etymology:
        Middle English hakken, from Old English -haccian; akin to Old High German hacchn to hack, Old English hc hook
Date:
        13th century

transitive verb
1 a: to cut or sever with repeated irregular or unskillful blows
b: to cut or shape by or as if by crude or ruthless strokes
c: annoy, vex --often used with off
2: to clear or make by or as if by cutting away vegetation
3 a: to manage successfully
b: tolerate

intransitive verb
1 a: to make chopping strokes or blows ; also : to make cuts as if by chopping
b: to play inexpert golf
2: to cough in a short dry manner
3: loaf --usually used with around
4 a: to write computer programs for enjoyment
b: to gain access to a computer illegally

Yes, the term is being muddied by the media, but language is always in flux, meanings change. New words appear. Perhaps it's time to give the 'white hat' hackers a new term? Or start using the term 'white hat' more.

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[Psion]

To the general population, someone with multiple personalities has schizophrenia. Does that make them right? Of course not, they have multiple personality disorder or dissociative identity disorder. Facts aren't candidates in a popularity contest.

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[Actually, I do RTFA]

You're never, ever going to realign the definition of the term, not even if you did more than post on slashdot about it (which you won't). Do what you do with every other word in the damn language, and use it the same way everyone else does.

Yes and no. Within the slashdot community, the word hacker has a different meaning. It is stupid to expect that meaning to apply outside slashdot, but inside one expects the word "hacker" not to get thrown around so much. Much like using "weight" at a physicists convention means something different (and more accurate) than in the locker room at your gym.

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[Hatta]

That makes it the case, whether you like it or not. You're never, ever going to realign the definition of the term, not even if you did more than post on slashdot about it (which you won't). Do what you do with every other word in the damn language, and use it the same way everyone else does. Suddenly, magically, you'll find you can communicate with other lifeforms! Imagine that!

So I take it you call your monitor your "computer", your tower your "CPU", and the whole thing your "hard drive"? That's what the general population does, so you should too.

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[DeadManCoding]

Normally, I'm the one getting flamed, instead of flaming, but I really feel some bile coming up and after that post, I'm going to spew it at you. For those of us who are programmers, a hacker was a status symbol, the sysadmin that could throw together some code and make that new system their IT manager bought actually work right. While the English language will always allow for evolution, there are some things that have been misconstrued, such as "hacking". I may not be the 60s-70s era programmer, but my instructors in college were. They also found their word so utterly changed by the media to be insulting. I'm not going to change my vocabulary for the mass population because some other asshole decided the definition needed to be sensationalized. So do me a favor, get off your high horse, get out of the basement, and get a life. I want to be defined as a hacker, because I'm a coder, and for me, that's a worthy goal.

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[sconeu]

Come on... it's only illegal if "ordinary people" do it. If $BIG_CORP does it, it's a patriotic act to catch those Evil Content Pirates(tm).

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[DanielJosphXhan]

Definitions and the meaning of words are, at least if you accept that definition of the meaning of a word.

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[Independent Voter]

Actually, multiple personality disorder is a form of schizophrenia. So, people who say that those with multiple personality disorder have schizophrenia, they're not wrong, just inexact.

I started hacking and cracking in 1983, way before it was "cool". At the time, according to me and my friends who were much better hackers and crackers than I was (including one Pentagon computer hacker who eventually got caught), cracking is a subform of hacking.

Language evolves and meanings change. Happens every year with lots of words. During the transition, it creates confusion, but then the new meaning takes over and settles in and communication continues. take "hacking", for example. It used to just mean "beating something with a sharp object"...

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[modecx]

More like pissing into the exhaust of a GE90 turbofan engine.

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[cayenne8]

"To the general population, someone with multiple personalities has schizophrenia. "

"Roses are Red,

Violets are Blue,

I'm schizophrenic,

And so am I..."

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[stonecypher]

For those of us who are programmers, a hacker was a status symbol

No it wasn't. There was nothing worse than to call yourself that. Please stop posing. You weren't around back when it was in use, and your quick read of TNHD hasn't given you the depth of context that you seem to believe you have. You weren't around back then, and you should stop pretending that you were. It's dishonest.

the sysadmin that could throw together some code and make that new system their IT manager bought actually work right.

"Hacker" was out of use long before the job "IT Manager" even existed.

I'm not going to change my vocabulary

It's not your vocabulary. It's something you heard from someone else. Just because one college teacher told you a story doesn't mean you've got the bead. It's slang. Move on.

So do me a favor, get off your high horse, get out of the basement, and get a life.

You're way further up on your own ire than the person to whom you're responding.

I want to be defined as a hacker

And you never, ever will be. Let it go. You're not Mel.

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[pclminion]

Much like using "weight" at a physicists convention means something different (and more accurate) than in the locker room at your gym.

Physicists are just as sloppy, terminologically, as anyone else. I've heard mass referred to as "weight" in plenty of informal discussions. It is not a problem because the context is always clear. Hell, we still have the term "atomic weight" which has been wrong for over 100 years, and yet continues to be used.

In a publication, the correct terms are always used. And of course, there are scientists who are anal about terminology even in informal settings. But I would hope that the human race has enough intelligence to account for CONTEXT in discussions in order to disambiguate terms.

The old hacker/cracker debate is tiresome, pointless, and indicates that the poster has nothing USEFUL to say.

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[pclminion]

So I take it you call your monitor your "computer", your tower your "CPU", and the whole thing your "hard drive"? That's what the general population does, so you should too.

Silly generalizations on hundreds of millions of people do not make an argument.

Wow. Dark Side ahoy!

[meringuoid]

...if you save Hollywood for us you can become rich and powerful.

"...and we will rule the Galaxy together!"

"Noooooooooooo!"

Cheapskates

[suso]

Wow, they are even cheaper than I thought. $15,000? I know there were other benefits, but I would have laughed in their face.

I'm glad that I no longer consume mass media.

[Anonymous Coward]

After reading about crap like this, I'm happy that I no longer consume the shit spewed forth by the mass media. Just over two years ago I sold my TV and DVD player, gave away the DVDs and CDs I had to relatives and friends. Since then I haven't watched TV, watched a movie (on disc or in the theater), listened to mainstream music, or otherwise involved myself with their product.

Instead of buying mainstream CDs, I go listen to local bands play at a variety of pubs and other venues, and buy directly from them if I like what I hear. The local theater productions are often far better than the latest Bruce Willis shitflick out of Hollywood. Instead of watching TV, I go biking, rockclimbing, and I also play recreational badminton.

So I'm glad to say that my funding of this sort of bullshit has been minimal, if at all. I urge more people to take a path similar to the one that I've chosen. You'll be far better off, both in terms of the entertainment you do experience, the money you save, and the fact that you're not funding the mainstream media in any way.

Re:I'm glad that I no longer consume mass media.

[DanielJosphXhan]

Wow. But do you use your x-ray vision and power of flight for the good of humanity?

Re:I'm glad that I no longer consume mass media.

[Choad Namath]

I also play recreational badminton.

So was it this line, or your overwhelming smugness that caused you to comment anonymously?

Re:I'm glad that I no longer consume mass media.

[Anonymous Coward]

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28694

More like a cracker with no brains

[WindBourne]

If they would give him anything, and he only got 15K?????? What an idiot.

Re:More like a cracker with no brains

[rvw]

If they would give him anything, and he only got 15K?????? What an idiot. Yeah but they promised him he would meet Elvis! That counts for something too I would think.

Re:More like a cracker with no brains

[PopeRatzo]

I think you guys are on to something. They offer him riches and power and 15k is what he settles for.

Selling your soul is one thing, but selling it cheap is unconscionable.

Remember, though, when it comes to the buying and selling of souls: You get what you pay for.

Re:More like a cracker with no brains

[Hijacked Public]

I read that as they promised him anything.

He probably asked for $10 million and they probably agreed. After deduxcting various ancilliary expenses, office rental, studio time, roadies, electrical power factor multiplier, candy bars, in office Jolt delivery, the deposit on his office key, and various other miscellaneous Usual & Customary Fees, and taxes, his check was about $15k.

Re:More like a cracker with no brains

[Midnight Thunder]

If they would give him anything, and he only got 15K?????? What an idiot.

Maybe he signed the same contract most as most RIAA artists (there doesn't seem to be much between RIAA and MPAA).

Hm

[Kaitnieks]

If this is really true, it must mean that MPAA seriously believe they can close illegal interweb media distribution channels. Either they underestimate scale of the problem or overestimate their own power and influence, in any case they live in a dream world.

Re:Hm

[Opportunist]

What do you expect? After creating dream worlds for decades, it's only logical that they start living in them, too.

Re:Hm

[Artifakt]

It sounds fantastic, but I almost believe this story. Paying someone just $15,000 and thinking it would both make a major dent in their problems and get the kind of service they would need is all of a piece with 'living in a dream world'. The pattern fits - the MPAA has shown in other actions that they would think it's smart to spend lots on politicians, but hire somebody technical with the promise a good job and a pay off in chump change. Look at the small companies they have picked to implement various DRM schemes, and how easily those schemes have failed.
      In unrelated news, NASA has hired New Jersey laundrymat owner Marco Delgrepio to create a permanent lunar colony. For now, they're only offering him $15,000, but if he just beats some invading space aliens by uploading a virus from his apple powerbook, he'll get a car. It's a really nice car.

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"Didn't know"? Right.

[MoonFog]

The MPAA does not dispute it paid Anderson for the sensitive information, but insists that it had no idea that Anderson stole the data. "The MPAA obtains information from third parties only if it believes the evidence has been collected legally," says MPAA spokeswoman Elizabeth Kaltman.

Essentially, the MPAA said "we will give you anything if you rat these people out and obtain evidence for us", yet "didn't know" he was doing it illegally? Please, just shows how desperate they can be and what kind of morale these people have.

Re:"Didn't know"? Right.

[blake1]

Sure it's a questionable practise, but it's no different to what any number of corporations would do in a similar circumstance. If they don't ask how he got the information, they don't know, their hands don't need to be cleaned.

You find this suprising?

Re:"Didn't know"? Right.

[gsslay]

Is there not something deliciously ironic about one set of criminals complaining about the illegal, immoral activities of another?

Actually, the situation is just a bit too cloying for my tastes.

Re:"Didn't know"? Right.

[MoonFog]

Surprising? Not really, expected more like it, but this is an organisation that constantly calls entire P2P networks into question because there MIGHT be illegitimate content on them. They even slam the protocol itself, claiming it is illegal, and are caught red handed doing illegal deeds themselves. Schadenfreude more than surprise I'd say.

Re:"Didn't know"? Right.

[Red Flayer]

Essentially, the MPAA said "we will give you anything if you rat these people out and obtain evidence for us", yet "didn't know" he was doing it illegally? Please, just shows how desperate they can be and what kind of morale these people have.

Please, RTFA.

Anderson approached them, saying pretty much, "I can get you this info, how much is it worth to you?"

Then, when they met, he told them that he had "an informant" who had access to the info. Two degrees of separation? There's plausible deniability right there. Do I believe they knew the info was obtained illegally? No. Do I believe they made any kind of effort to find out? No as well. But it doesn't really matter, since they can plausibly deny that they had knowledge of how the info was obtained.

Re:"Didn't know"? Right.

[CmdrGravy]

To be fair if I instructed my minions to:

"Get this project finished to everyones satisfaction and I don't care how you do it"

I'd be a bit surprised if they came back to me the next day and said

"Hey boss, that project thing. It's all fixed up real nice now. Real nice"

And it turned out they'd done it by killing all the people who were waiting for it.

I think most rational people when told to use whatever means necessary take it for granted this means whatever means available within the law. Particulary if you've signed a contract specifically saying that.

This Anderson bloke is basically an idiot, the MPAA paid him peanuts, probably knew full well he was going to break the law to get them the information they wanted but let him go ahead with it anyway having insulated themselves as much as possible from any actions he sees fit to take upon himself.

Re:"Didn't know"? Right.

[Sique]

In Germany we have a word for that: "Catch the thief, he has my knife in his back!"

Re:"Didn't know"? Right.

[Gumbercules!!]

Nonsense. They asked him to provide them with information he had no legal way to be in possession of, nor to transfer. They asked him to commit a crime. That's accessory, my friend.

Example:
If I tell you to provide me with Rio Tinto's secret environment impact analysis report on a Uranium mine and you cough it up, but I know full well you don't work for Rio Tinto public relations, then I also know full well it's a stolen report. Even if someone gave it to you, they & you have no permission to pass it on to me.

This is exactly the same.

Re:"Didn't know"? Right.

[jfuredy]

In Germany we have a word for that: "Catch the thief, he has my knife in his back!"

Wow! German must be an amazing language if that can be translated into a single word!!

Re:"Didn't know"? Right.

[hawk]

If you can't express a thought as a single german word without violating any grammar rules, you're just not trying . . . :)

hawk

Re:"Didn't know"? Right.

[drsmithy]

Wow! German must be an amazing language if that can be translated into a single word!!

German: proudly turning sentences into words and words into sentences.

Mr. Anderson

[Anonymous Coward]

Tell me, Mr. Anderson, what good is a 100mbps connection when you are unable to share?

MPAA losing money

[carlosap]

From Piratebay Top Torrent Movies ...

I.Now.Pronounce.You.Chuck.And.Larry[2007]DvDrip[Eng]-aXXo SE 5257 LE 11556
MPAA Lose: Total: (5257 + 11556)* $19.99dlls = $336,091.87dlls

Pirates.Of.The.Caribbean-At.World's.End[2007]DvDrip[Eng]-aXXo 10-17 19:11 Decargar 900.29 MiB 5182 7394
MPAA Lose: Total: (5182 + 7394) * 19.99dlls = $251,394.24dlls

1/2 Million Dollars just in 2 movies, so yes!, they have to do something.

Re:MPAA losing money

[Fred_A]

MPAA Lose: Total: (5257 + 11556)* $19.99dlls = $336,091.87dlls
MPAA Lose: Total: (5182 + 7394) * 19.99dlls = $251,394.24dlls/qhote>
Who would have thought dynamic libraries were so popular on p2p networks. I wonder what people do with them.

Re:MPAA losing money

[deftcoder]

You're forgetting that the overwhelming majority of people pirating those films would NOT pay to see them.

So, let's say about $100 USD per film and call it even.

Re:MPAA losing money

[dave420]

And if those people aren't actually going to buy the movie:

I.Now.Pronounce.You.Chuck.And.Larry[2007]DvDrip[Eng]-aXXo SE 5257 LE 11556
MPAA Lose: Total: (5257 + 11556)* $0 = $0

Pirates.Of.The.Caribbean-At.World's.End[2007]DvDrip[Eng]-aXXo 10-17 19:11 Decargar 900.29 MiB 5182 7394
MPAA Lose: Total: (5182 + 7394) * $0 = $0

Or, if the people who download it will buy it on DVD or go to see it at the cinema, then there is no correlation between those who download and lost revenue. None at all.

Re:MPAA losing money

[saltydog56]

What a crock of shit. If the tired old "I would not have bought it anyways ..." tripe is the best logic you can come up with it is clear that you must have lost a bet with God and as a result, had to submit to a lobotomy. Clear and simple, you are pinching a service which you have not paid for.

Just because the jackasses in the entertainment industry are a bunch of slime maggots does not mean that you have the right to use whatever means you can find to circumvent their business model - the bottom line is that the movies and music you are stealing is their property, created at their expense, not yours. So of course they have the right to control the distribution of the fruits of their labors. No matter how screwed up they are.

If you were caught picking the lock on the back door of a concert hall in order to get into a concert for free would you expect the coppers to send you on your way after you explained that you really did not want to see the band anyways because their music sucks?

If you were caught jumping the door on a city bus to get a free ride would the judge turn you loose after you explained that there was no loss of profits because there were empty seats anyways? I think not.

How is this any different than taking your handi-cam into your local strip club and filming the goings on for your next "skanks gone wild" movie on the basis that the wench was going to be on the pole anyways?

All you are doing is making a lame attempt at justifying your lack of respect for the rights of others.

Re:MPAA losing money

[Technician]

How many of those downloads are the same as a lost sale? I doubt the quality is the same as the retail DVD and could fetch the same price. Was it a lost sale, or a lost rental? At full retail price, would the lack of a download make a retail purchase? The prices given are as always, shown as the MAX possible loss for the most impact. Many people who would never pay full retail would buy if the price was reasonable. I for one don't spend over $15 on DVD's. Most of the time, I spend under $10. Calling DVD's at twice that price a lost sale at $19.99 because it can be downloaded is a pipe dream. It's a lost sale because it is $19.99.

Re:MPAA losing money

[Immerial]

There is a correlation between those who download and lost revenue. It's not zero but it's also far from the $19.99 DVD they would claim.

Just for the ease of calculation, says you pay $28/month ($1/day) for your connection and it takes you an hour to download... that's about $.04, and that's on the cheap side. Even if you triple it (takes longer to download, more expensive connection) and burn it to a blank DVD, $.30 to play on the player downstairs (maybe you don't have some mo-funky fresh system that can handle a digital file). So it more like it's worth $.42 :-)

Re:Oh Please

[Hanners1979]

You're right, there's no way an MPAA lawyer would say that - It's bound to constitute copyright infringement from some cheesy movie or other.

Re:Oh Please

[BlueStrat]

"If you save Hollywood for us you can become rich and powerful"? Does anyone really think the MPAA's lawyers are dumb enough to give a quote like that?

Apparently, you've never had any dealings with talent scouts or record label A&R reps. They routinely promise the world to their prospects, but end up bending them over with no lube. This is entertainment industry SOP.

Cheers!

Strat

15k?

[langelgjm]

If Hollywood thinks that 15 grand makes you rich and powerful, I think they need to examine more than their business model.

Re:15k?

[ubrgeek]

They paid him with the profits from Ishtar.

Promises, promises

[smchris]

We would give you a nice paying job, a house, a car, anything you needed.... if you save Hollywood for us you can become rich and powerful.' In 2005, the MPAA paid Anderson $15,000

Where does Anderson live, Lesotho?

Was a dark and stormy night

[packetmon]

"If I can only perl -pi -e 's:torrent:torrentspy4daMPAA:g' torrentSourceCode.c I can become a martyr with my story" said Mr. Anderson as he duped numerous websites into believing his story.

Re:When hypocrites attack...

[Opportunist]

So if I resort to illegal practices to protect an outdated business model that's no longer viable it's all right and fine? So those hackney drivers should've been allowed to slice car tires and blow up trains? Workers of a Detroit car plant should pool their last cents and rent a sub to sink those carrier ships from Japan?

Interesting point of view.

You no longer consume mass media?

[Chas]

Yet you're on the Internet?

Riiight!

Re:You no longer consume mass media?

[Machtyn]

the Internet is media, yes, but it is NOT Hollywood. Hollywood does not have a hold on the term entertainment, and they aren't the only players in "entertainment media".

Here's a good article about it by /.'s favorite John Dvorak.

Re:You no longer consume mass media?

[gardyloo]

Here's a good article [pcmag.com] about it by /.'s favorite John Dvorak. Well, that statement right there is about equivalent to a divide-by-zero. I'll pass.

Re:You no longer consume mass media?

[gardyloo]

.... and then, like a total fuckwit, I went ahead and read the article, just to make sure I wasn't being a total ass and might have to retract the parent post. Really, it's just good news all around:

      (1) No, I don't have to retract the parent post;
      (2) I have a quick-heat soldering iron with which to stab out my eyes.

                    Later!

What an effing crock!

[Fuzzypig]

Biggest pile of Elephant wank I have ever seen! "If you hack TorrentSpy", "you can have anything you wish for", so here's a measly $15k! If he was tasked with saving a multi-billion dollar industry on his own, surely they could have a a quick whip-round at the MPAA directors meetings and probably raise 10x that in small change!!! Hacing TorrentSpy??!! WTF!? Hardly rocket science is it, its a publicly open web-server pushing out glorified text files telling you where file sharers are sharing copyrihted material! A few pokes about on WhoIs, the odd phone call here and there, leaving the IP collector on a few weeks on a few very popular torrents, work out the ISPs of those sharers and Bob's your Auntie's Live-In Lover, bish-bosh-zoom $500k please!

I'm sorry, but this smacks of FUD from the MPAA/RIAA bullshit, brain-storm meeting! How can we scare off casual "pirates"? I know, says bow-tied twat number 1, lets make up shit about professional hackers gathering your details and bringing down the fabric of society, or at least one of the 75 popular torrent sites.

Re:When hypocrites attack...

[Dunbal]

So an association of businesses used legal methods to protect their legal and legitimate income stream.

      Mr. Coward, please tell me why I can't:

a) watch a DVD that I purchased legally on my television via the TV-Out port on my video card, using my computer's DVD drive to read this legal DVD? Macrovision prevents that. There are ways around it, but they are illegal due to the DMCA.

b) watch a DVD that I purchased legally in linux, because apparently Hollywood hasn't bothered to write an official DVD-decoder for that operating system, yet they maintain that if anyone else does it, it's a DMCA violation?

The article misspoke . . .

[Nebuul]

It's pretty clearly obvious that they did not give him $15,000. What they ACTUALLY did was give him a free song download *valued at $15,000*

Jesus, please read the article before writing summaries!

Let me read your emails then

[emj]

It's easy to say that, but the right to privacy applies to criminals too. Perhaps we would have an easier time getting criminals caught if we wiretapped everybody, then they will have the same right as everyone else, and can't complain.

The reason you want criminals to get away, is because you don't want to be treated the same way. These rules apply whether you are an angry spouse, big company or the police.

Hmmm... so, this guy is a hero now?

[forestbrooke]

Isn't it ironic, that goodness is now "I did something evil before... but heyy, look at me now! am sorry and I am talking about it!" I think this guy would have been better off if he had refused MPAA and blew open the "bad intent" (well... one of them...) of the stupid execs all over the place! Kind of lame, to acknowledge now, after of course licking the green off the $$$. But, I guess that is the trend now...

Quotes from his diary...

[jpellino]

Anderson: Okay, here's the plan. We get the data and then hold the RIAA ransom for... 15 HUNDRED dollars!
Number Two: [clears throat] Sir, strictly speaking, fifteen hundred dollars will not go very far these days. My butler alone makes over fifteen hundred dollars a week.
Anderson: Really? Okay then... we hold the RIAA ransom for 15... THOUSAND dollars!

MAFIAA hacker?

[jollyreaper]

Ho boy, he's not going to have a good time when he makes it to the big house. If there's one thing hardened cons can't stand, it's a snitch. And if there's a subset of snitches they really can't stand, it's people who mess up file sharing for everyone else. This one guy had posted a bunch of torrents that were supposed to be really good movies but were instead just mislabeled copies of Britney Spear's Crossroads... that poor bastard got shivved in the shower.

Wait, what's that? He's not going to jail? *throws down hat, stomps on it* What the hell is this country coming to?

internet != mass media

[weighn]

Re:You no longer consume mass media?
Yet you're on the Internet?

Riiight! Mass media is a term used to denote a section of the media specifically envisioned and designed to reach a very large audience such as the population of a nation state.
Mainstream is, generally, the common current of thought of the majority.

So, if AC just reads /. as opposed to, say, Digg he/she does not consume mass media. Objection overruled.

If he had hacked Microsoft

[speaker of the truth]

If this person had hacked Microsoft and posted the Windows source code online you would all be heralding him as a true freedom fighter. However because he hacked someone you like you say what he did was wrong.

I guess the motto here at slashdot is "you must respect people's rights, unless we don't like them."

Re:If he had hacked Microsoft

[Enrique1218]

If this person had hacked Microsoft and posted the Windows source code online you would all be heralding him as a true freedom fighter. However because he hacked someone you like you say what he did was wrong.

Not really. There is nothing valuable in the Windows Source Code./P>

Re:If he had hacked Microsoft

[pizzach]

I hate to tell you this, but laughing when an "evil" person (or company) has their karma come back to haunt them is a part of human nature. It's a bit like when the person who punched you in the face steps in some dog crap. It just kind of makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Re:If he had hacked Microsoft

[Draek]

you're new here aren't you? because it already happened and no, they weren't regarded as "true freedom fighters".

but please don't let facts get in the way of a good troll.

I can see how they recruited him

[Jesus_666]

They sat him in front of a notebook where he got a blowjob while someone put a gun against his head and John Travolta counted down from sixty until he caved in to the pressure and used ls /usr/bin to crack the 128-bit encryption securing TorrentSpy's login form.

Hollywood uses that method a lot.

a rat is a rat anywhere in the world...

[goga_russian]

a rat is a rat anywhere in the world... and we all know what happens to rats. america promotes the culture of 'telling on someone', ratting on your friends to save ur ass, or make money. please dont admire a rat.

what bullshit

[cliffski]

"We would give you a nice paying job, a house, a car, anything you needed.... if you save Hollywood for us you can become rich and powerful"

outside of hollywood movies, nobody talks like this. this is all the ramblings of some deranged kid.

Re:WTF?

[mosch]

"$15k to make people's lives miserable because they committed some minor IP violations? sweet deal!"

I would've expected people to want more money, but I guess it makes sense. There's always somebody who is sufficiently selfish to fuck everybody else over for a comically small sum of money.

According to the Article...

[spydabyte]

Someone might want to RTFA:

Looking to profit in other ways, Anderson approached the MPAA with an e-mail offering to help the movie studios' lobbying arm beat piracy [...] Among other things, Anderson proposed to implement an anti-piracy marketing campaign for the MPAA.

But he says he also offered to provide inside information on TorrentSpy

"It was an opportunity to make money, because I knew how these networks operated," he says. So he got pissed because he wasn't making advertising money, and took some illegal information to the MPAA himself.

On June 8, 2005, [...] Anderson says he told Garfield that he had "an informant that can intercept any e-mail communication." Once again, he went to the MPAA...

Anderson didn't tell Garfield he was the "informant," and that he'd already hacked into TorrentSpy's systems. So the MPAA didn't know...

The hacker, then 23 and living in Vancouver, British Columbia, claims he had cracked TorrentSpy's servers by simply guessing an administrative password. Besides my beef with him being called a hacker (instead of cracker), how is this cracking at all?

He knew the password was weak -- a combination of a name and some numbers. [...] "I just kept changing the numbers until it fit," he says. "I guess you can call it luck. It took a little more than 30 tries." Yea, not hacking. Social engineering if anything...

Once inside, he programmed TorrentSpy's mail system to relay e-mail to a newly created external account he could access. There's a trace of pride in his voice as he details the hack. cracking the Gibson baby. If he's so proud to be leaking this information, that's not elite (see the jargon file) C'mon /. work on the misinforming summaries! Starting to sound like FOX

Re:When hypocrites attack...

[Technician]

Nah, I just rip them and remove the macrovision.

DVD's don't have Macrovision. They have a Macrovision flag. A legal player adds Macrovision to the player output. Rippers never bothered with the flag and don't have a Macrovision license to use the encoder.

If you paid extra for a ripper that "Removes Macrovision" you got ripped off. You would have to pay extra for a ripper that adds Macrovision.

Funny article! Rich + powerful = $15K

[scottsk]

So the MPAA thinks being rich and powerful is worth $15k? I don't blame the guy for sour grapes -- he needs to write a book, and maybe they can make his story into a movie so he can really cash in -- of course, he probably won't make a dime because the movie will be pirates! But the article is really funny because it shows just who the MPAA really are. They promised everything and delivered nothing!

"Anything you want" vs $15,000

[Maxo-Texas]

Typical MPAA/Riaa deal making.

I'm sure his $15million check was cut due to various fees. His final cut was $15,000.

Reporting on people for MPAA?

[Mr.Fork]

Hmmm... collecting private information to identify people without their knoweldge. I do believe MPAA would be breaking the law here in Canada. Let me talk to my security dude - I'm wondering if I could get the entire MPAA board executive but on Canada's TERRORIST watch list? Seeing how they're spying on Canadians violating privacy laws for 'yet-undetermined activities' - wouldn't that be funny...?

You've never seen German, have you?

[Sycraft-fu]

They have a word for everything. The language likes compound words like no other. One of these situations of "Hmmm, we don't have a word for that, well let's just jam together some existing words that describe it and call it a new word." For example: Suppose we need a form to calculate the additional costs on a transaction. That would be a Zusatzkostenberechnungsschein. If one could transliterate that to English it would be something along the lines of Additionalcostcalculationform.

So sure, they probably have a word for "Catch the thief, he has my knife in his back!" as well :D.

Gaa!

[Romicron]

Actually, multiple personality disorder is a form of schizophrenia. So, people who say that those with multiple personality disorder have schizophrenia, they're not wrong, just inexact.

No, no, no, no, no! Good Lord, NO!

Please. Nothing against you, but every time I hear the words "MPD" and "Schizophrenia" in the same sentence, I cringe. Disclaimer: IANAP (I am not a psychiatrist).

Understanding Dissociative Disorders (Multiple Personality Disorder is an outdated term.)
DID's Wiki Page

Diagnostic Information for Schizophrenia
Schizophrenia's Wiki Page

Please take the time to read at least enough to see the differences between the two. It's a common misconception, but it IS a misconception. The two are in separate categories under the DSM-IV diagnostic criteria (DID being 300.14, Schizophrenia being 295.x, there are different types). "MPD" (Dissociative Identity Disorder) is NOT schizophrenia, nor a form of it. They are distinct.

Back on topic... You'd think that they'd find some poor hacker kid with a bunch of their ripped merchandise on his drive and blackmail him or her into doing their bidding, and then hold a lawsuit / charges over their head unless they comply. They save 15K less the cost of the generic white van and black-clothed goons to pick him up.