DOJ Doesn't Like the Idea of A Copyright Czar
sconeu writes "Seems as if the DOJ is not particularly happy about HR 4729, the 'Copyright Czar' bill. The Deputy AG told Congress that the current structure works quite effectively. 'Panel members also expressed concern over Section 104 of the bill, which would allow a copyright owner to collect statutory damages for each copyrighted work that is stolen. Detractors fear that this provision could result in protracted lawsuits ... Section 104, however, would penalize criminals on a per-song basis, so if someone pirated a motion picture soundtrack that had songs from 12 different artists, the pirate would be charged with 12 separate offenses and be subject to exorbitant fees.'"
> ... would allow a copyright owner to collect statutory
> damages for each copyrighted work that is stolen.
So if I buy a Metallica CD, and someone swipes it, Metallica gets the money when the thief is caught?
Bizarre.
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I gotta be honest, I was at best buy and I didn't see any particular movie or CD that interested me and I had a $5 off coupon to spend. Movie, music, and TV executives take note: I'm done. You can keep your ball and play by your rules, but I'm going to go home and do something constructive, like build a book shelf, or read a book, and maybe stop, look up at this beautiful world we live in and decide I don't need your crap to enjoy life.
It will be a huge turn for the federal government in US history. Meaning, this is a blantant example of politicians wanting to use the federal government resources to help primarily large businesses maximize and enforce their revenues. Piracy, like it or not, provides a market balance where in many industries it did not exist before, and most of the politicians know this.
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This is what happens when 4chan goes down.
Abuse of the court system to slam 'Intellectual Property' offenders benefits corporations.
Taken past a certain point, though, it impairs the ability of the court system to be responsive, and brings massive costs to the agencies which have to support the infrastructure.
We're getting to that point.
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The American drug Czars have done soooo well haven't they? A copyright Czar is SURE to end all copyright violations!
Yanks: DO something about your electoral system! It's time to move back to Democracy from Corporate Oligarchy.
Copyright infringement is a civil offence. Nuff said.
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Nearly everyone else isn't happy about it either, so what's new?
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
I like people like you... keep up the good work. It always brings a smile to my face when I see this type of post!!
We already have laws that punish real bootlegging pirates. Walk down the street in most major metropolitan areas and you see people making money off other peoples hard work. Would those people be charged with both the original crime AND a crime for EACH of the copyrights they violated to sell a five dollar version of a 20 dollar RIAA CD?
This isn't a bill written to make the constituents happy... I'm glad the DOJ is doing more than following along.
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We're going to end up with a "Czar Czar". Last thing we need is more bureaucrats with dictatorial titles.
Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
12 separate offenses? What a waste of money and work force, this will become a huge overhead for the legal system, and a costly one, the American government should be more concerned in getting ahead of China than in suing their citizens a hundred time for a simple crime. What a waste of resources.
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"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
"We dont' want to be the MPAA's bitch; if Congress likes that kind of thing, great for them, but no agent or prosecutor is going to make their career chasing college students and grandmothers. They can do their own dirtywork - we're busy with terrorism and drugs."
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
Who chose the wording "Copyright Czar"? That's akin to asking members of Congress to vote on killing puppies. No, they won't kill the puppies and they won't support a "Czar" of any kind.
Captain Copyright, on the other hand, wearing a cape, a smile, and a costume that says "Don't steal MY music" would go over much better.
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Did we discuss this yesterday?
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How does one qualify to be the "Copyright Czar" ? RIAA/MPAA lawyer extraordinaire? Divine Right? Crony? Generic Pain in the Ass? Recent recipient of "Biggest Douche in the Universe"?
What about pirating a cd that includes cover a cover song? Would the pirate then be responsible to pay the original artist/label's royalties as well as the covering artist?
I realize that very few artists own the rights to their own music--the artists that this bill would affect, anyway-- but where does it end? If someone pirates a movie that has product placement in it? Nike, Coca-cola, etc...can they sue, since the pirate didn't get their permission/comission?
If the "We Don't Torture, but Oppose Anti-Torture Legislation" DOJ thinks a piece of legislation is a little too heavy-handed, Congress should damn well get the message that it's time to reconsider.
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The NET ("No Electronic Theft") Act made copyright infringement criminal in some cases. It looks like it was intended to criminalize people trading copies of copyrighted works, because it made it criminal to infringe upon copyright if you were profiting from it. And then it added to the definition of "profiting" that you could be exchanging a copyrighted work in exchange for other copyrighted works.
Mind you, IANAL, and the DoJ apparently has better things to do than go after low-level copyright infringers, it seems like congress wants to change that to help Hollywood.
As for the DoJ, it sounds like they're against this primarily because they don't want to lose power. I never thought I'd be glad to see petty politics come into play, but I'm honestly glad and I agree with them that a copyright czar is a waste of time.
But the DoJ is also sensible enough only to care about huge pirate rings selling bootleg copies, not Joe Infringer downloading at home. Hollywood hates that, obviously, but the DoJ has real work to do and I hope they keep doing it.
Or do the politicians think that we won't blame them if the conviction rates for real crimes like homicide drop so that they can divert the DoJ's manpower to catch people who infringe upon copyrights at home? I'll sure as hell blame them if that happens.
Gee, didn't the US help defeat the Nazis? I'm very confused.
How is it that copyright receives a higher standard of punishment than traditional crime. Maybe because the RIAA holds itself more important than people who really get hurt.
If someone is assaulted they cannot prosecute the assailant for each punch/stab/whatever....
They are entitled to fair protections but the system must make the redress fair as well. Each $2.99 song is a million dollars by their accounting. Now they want each instance to give them a retrial and more ability to punish the poor with larger threatened lawsuits. This is not trial by judge or jury anymore. They are fighting for trial by the inefficiency of our judicial system. They want to make the court system worse and more expensive while they use it as a hammer to win settlements - out of court. And who picks up the tab??? The country.
Go back to the initial copyright as set out by the constitution. Remove the extensions and emphasize the benefits of a global distribution system that costs peanuts to maintain.
Of course, because ripping a DVD and putting it on your video iPod is stealing.
It's not about stealing, dipshit. It's about choice.
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And exactly what are the PC's in a household suspected of downloading?
"I know the bill allows automobiles of speeders to be taken away, but it won't allow cops to take away the family car, only if the car was owned or predominantly controlled by the speeder"
This guy needs to learn to at least make the double talk he uses to justify his police state bill believable. I doubt this would be passable even to a 5 year old.
It reminds me of a recent speech by the RIAA blasting the "FAIR USE" act by claiming the DMCA "helped" to bring about digital mp3 player innovation.
I doubt even the majority of congressmen are that clueless about what these things are. The EFF and rick boucher make sure to at least get that across.
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you can dig in your heels and fight it tooth and nail, until reality passes you by
or you can adapt gracefully, and keep right on swimming
adapt, or die
i mean these are some pretty fantastic death throes we are witnessing now
riaa, mpaa: in 5 years i want to see shocktroopers on the street with congressionally mandated shoot to kill on sight orders for anyone caught singing christmas carols without prior authorization
that's the logical progression of your denial
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
1. We have a new set of laws that proscribes MASSIVE penalties for intellectual property violations. People need to defend themselves from this new threat!
2. We have tens of thousands of bored lawyers in this country, not to mention the ones graduating from college. They need money and swanky cars because they are Lawyers!
3. We have an industry that wants to make money off of music. All music. Everywhere. They need people to go after these infringers!
So, if these laws go into effect, we have two sets of lawyers, the Defenders and the Aggressors. The Defenders are primarily concerned with making money defending copyright infringer. If your max fine for violating copyright is around, say $50,000, wouldn't you rather spend $10,000 on a lawyer who guaranteed he would win, or your money back? Or if you are a business, wouldn't you shell out $150,000 for a lawyer to avoid the publicity and likely 1 Million in damages?
Aggressors would be the ones who actively go after the infringers, and would basically be mercenaries under the employ of the MPAA or RIAA. Investigations would net infringers, which would be passed on to the Aggressors. Considering their take-home on a trial would be a portion of the damages awarded, they would file as many cases as possible. If a few get settled, so be it, but may would go through and they would collect.
And here's the kicker, both Defenders and Aggressors have to serve the best interests of their client, which means settlement, and a lot of it. If a Defender manages to settle for $20k, he's just saved his client $30K. If an Aggressor settles for $20K, his client gets $20K free and clear on the ILLEGAL USE OF A SINGLE INFRINGEMENT without the hassle of a trial. Less attorney fees of course. If these guys file 30 cases like this a year, they are pulling back enough money to live on easily. If they build a firm around it, they have enough money to become tin gods.
When are we going to learn that in the nation of Capitalism, nothing is a law, it's just another business opportunity? Once, a long time ago, lawyers were defenders of freedom and justice, providing a check against government corruption and abuses of power. While some still are, the majority are so in bed with the government they have batter on hand for pancakes in the morning.
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/First, the lawyers.
//Then, the politicians..
///When the revolution comes...
Back in the 20's the christian right got the volstead act.
Instead of curbing drinking, it criminalized everyone and resulted in the proliferation of outright poisonous liquor (things like formaldehyde in it), rampant organized crime, and rampant corruption.
The interesting thing was.. the christian right ADMITTED THIS and congress repealed it.
Now let's look at the nixon drug laws, which at the time were ostensibly designed to criminalize the protestors he hated. Drugs are still widely proliferated, but instead of being highly regulated, safer (granted they ARE kinda bad for you, but so is booze and tobacco), and taxed. Further, people would feel safer seeking treatment knowing they wouldn't be arrested.
Instead of admitting their failure, the federal government continues to spend billions in a vietnam on our very shores and against our own people.
Now theyre pulling the same damn thing with the DMCA.. the sad part is they continue to do this DESPITE the fact even record execs have outright admitted, at least between the RIAA's spin cycles, that p2p isn't going away, and the DMCA isn't helping.
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Life was so much simpler when law enforcement restricted their efforts to catching criminals who made money from pirated wares. Unless I'm reselling the songs and movies I've downloaded for a profit, law enforcement is wasting their time coming after me. Bust the losers that sell pirated DVDs from the trunks of their cars and leave the soccer mom's who download pop singles alone.
but something like half of America is rural hicks who believe in Jesus and corporate property rights. Really, the people you met on your trips to NY and LA are not typical. It's 2007 and we still don't have national healthcare. Really.
I thought it wasn't so much a matter of wanting free songs, as much as not finding any songs worth paying for. The same goes for most of the current crop of movies. To top that off I already get quite a bit of music and movies for free (or at least already paid for) with my cable/internet package.
We are all just people.
except for the hardcore highly addicting and highly inebriating (so that excludes nicotine) drugs like heorin and the opiates, methamphetamine, and cocaine
marijuana should be legal, it's not worse than alcohol. lsd and psilocybin (magic mushrooms) should be legal: not addicting. of course you can't take that and drive
but the highly addicting and highly addicting trinity of meth, crack, and the opiates, especially, must forever be fought in drug war
simply because although all of the lessons about prohibition applied to these drugs as well, the effects of legalization of virally addictive substances is simply worse than prohibition
see the diagram: illegality for the red, legality for everything else. the substances in the red have effects which are worse than all of the prohibition effects you can list
the effects of easy viral addiction and the permanent waste that lays to lives (and freedoms: a drug addict is not free) means these substances must be permanently verboten, forever. in the name of freedom: freedom from the slavery of addiction
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
...and, coincidently, neither do most of us.
I've got some mod points right now, but I'd like to point out to other mods that rating this reply "funny" might cause the users to look up the parent's url.
Really with there was a "mod with comment" option... sigh...
Did you know that "FTW" ("for the win") is a direct translation of "Sieg Heil"?
...I don't think it'll be an issue. The only entities with enough money to use the legal system to protect their God-given intellectual property from rampant immoral thievery are giant corporations - which are not only accustomed, but in fact designed to process enormous numbers of transactions on a daily basis. I'm sure they'll be willing to cooperate with the newly-formed Ministry of Copyright to streamline the process. Perhaps judgments could be entered in batches of several thousand at a time, then deducted directly from the offending citizen's tax refund? Though I suppose this would be hardly fair to the victimized corp, since it would lose all the potential interest not earned on that money while waiting for the IRS to process the refund. Much better to withhold damages from each citizen's paycheck, a la Social Security tax, and allow those who are innocent to claim it back at the end of the year. (Assuming they can prove their innocence, of course.)
On a more serious note - perhaps we should all take a cue from Paul Anka: "Just don't look." (Or listen, or purchase.)
"Back in the 20's the christian right got the volstead act."
Applying the term "christian right" to a political movement before the 70's is like calling something a "genocide" that happened before WWII - it uses a term that didn't exist at the time of the event, not to describe it, but to leverage current emotional and intellectual trends to get the reaction the writer wishes.
In other words, trolling.
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
Drivers continually run red lights and stop signs. Should localities take them all down?
I'm not equating these acts to using p2p services, but saying that a law is or should be invalid because people don't want to follow it doesn't make a lot of sense.
"We dont' want to be the MPAA's bitch; if Congress likes that kind of thing, great for them, but no agent or prosecutor is going to make their career chasing college students and grandmothers. They can do their own dirtywork - we're busy with terrorism and drugs."
"We're busy busting college students for drugs and monitoring grandmothers because they might be terrorists."
not true, the temperance movement was an extremeist christian movement. That qualifies as "christian right"
as for genocide, did we forget about the incans, and the war against the north american indian tribes which left a mere remnant?
both have been called genocide for a long time.
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so far as speed limits, yes, and the stats used to justify them are also invalid, failing to take into account the inverse relationship between speed and age (people get slower as they get older).
The autobahn has no speed limit and things are fine. It may be because people who go fast don't have to continually maintain a paranoid search for cops and can actually focus on the road
no drivers don't continually run red lights and stop signs. Only an extreme minority do, as opposed to the number of people who speed or download from p2p networks.
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This is only about turf and jurisdiction. DOJ cares not one whit about your rights or wishes.
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."
-- Pablo Picasso
> So it looks like a cape-wearing copyright crusader is not long-lived.
didn't you see The Incredibles? remember what happened to superheros with capes!???
RI/MPAA: "you can buy our content and it may or may not play in your player, no you can't get a refund if you opened it, no you can't pirate it onto your iPod, no you can't play it in public so close your car window..." Consumer: "Okay...I'm going to go do something else then." RI/MPAA: "You can't do that. You have to buy my stuff. You can buy multiple copies so you can play it on everything you have..." Consumer: "Nah, its okay...I'm kinda having fun bike riding with my kids and hearing the wind blowing and the trees rustling..." RI/MPAA: "We have a CD like that! See? look you can buy this CD and listen to the wind blowing and trees rustling..." Consumer: "No really, its okay. I'm enjoying spending time laughing and talking to friends." RI/MPAA: "well, you can go watch a movie with friends! but you have to buy a copy for each person..." Consumer: "hehe, its okay. We enjoy just talking about how our families are doing, reliving the past, and looking forward to the future." RI/MPAA: "ummm, you sure you don't want to play a video game or something?" Consumer: "Actually we're about to play a game of texas hold'em...you want to play?" RI/MPAA: "Sure! I have it for the 360, PC, PS3..." Consumer: "nah, I'm just screwing with you. Go play with your lawyer buddies, I'm sure they're going to be bored once all my friends get tired of your antics."
Way to fail.
I write mine every time I read about one of these monstrosity bills before congress.
She never writes back or calls, so I can only gather that I have no representation in congress.
I'm informed about copyright issues. I wish my congressperson was.
They're using their grammar skills there.
Psst, back then the Democrats were as much the party of christians as the Republicans were. It wasn't until the Civil Rights movement in the 60s (when the northern (especially northeastern) Democrats and southern Democrats hated each other more than the other party) followed Nixon's "Southern Strategy" that the southern christians switched to Republicanism and Democrats turned more secular.
The Volstead Act was vetoed by Wilson but his veto was overridden by a supermajority in Congress(with dries in both parties outnumbering the wets by more than double). The 18th Amendment then passed and was ratified by every state except for Rhode Island.
Anyway, the point is, there was no "christian right" then. Everyone, regardless of party, was generally more conservative on social issues back then. Calling all of those people "the christian right" is about as meaningful as saying all cars in America have driver's side gas tanks, ignoring that plenty of cars have passenger side tanks(since this is Slashdot and I haven't seen a car analogy on this story) since it doesn't fit your predetermined bias.
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1.) Create Your Own Copyrighted Content (doesn't matter how good it is, how much it sux, how short or how long)
2.) Name your Files/Sell Your Files on iTunes Clones
3.) Track the IP Addresses in Torrents
4.) Sue the Big Name Copyright Police Enforcers who download/upload your copyrighted content files
5.) Pocket the Net Assets of the RIAA/MPAA for $150,000 per infringement
This will turn the internet into a legal minefield. The courts will be swamped. Billion dollar lawsuit headlines will follow. You just might be the lucky person who wins the multi-billion dollar lottery suit against the RIAA/MPAA and the companies financing those organizations. Copyright Law will be repealed.
--monxrtr
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That bill and all other pro IP bills that allow hollywood to sue grandmothers and 11 year old girls for 20K and more must be stopped and the people pushing them booted out of the country. Heck lets go farther and pull RIAA and MPAA people's skin off like wrapping paper and deck the halls with their guts.
I mean, hey, cool. We have a czar for copyright infringement now. I guess that means we can pirate MP3 and movies for the rest of our lives with no worries about ever seeing anything to stop us.
On the other hand, though, it means we'll be handing over more of the keys to the Constitution in vain, hamfisted attempts to stop it.
I mean, look at all those other things we've appointed czars for.
I sure didn't see the OP say anything about parties. You are just setting up a strawman argument by equating "right" with "republican." Talk about a predetermined bias...
It's H.R. 4279. The resolution can be found here. It looks quite bipartisan.
What I'd like to see is a representative or senator brave enough to say, "I think we need to stop making laws for a while, to see how what we have works, or not." A key feature that is seemingly absent from our legislative process is a feedback loop. One that asks: Is this working as intended? Do we need to change it? Is it being abused? I like sunset clauses too, but I'm only aware of one piece of legislation that had it, the so-called Assault Weapon Ban.
About 10 years ago, I read "Spock's World." One interesting concept from that book was that the Vulcan legislature had a branch dedicated to purging useless legislation. It would be nice to have one of those too.
Just had a thought: that would be one heck of a community project.
Science never settles, never rests.
It's almost like the authorities want to protect the content producers so much because they supply the alternative drug, that is the endless stream of bland music, films & TV that subdues the people and stops them thinking of revolution.
Whiny bastard, going off and doing something constructive. What's with people nowadays? Stop creating and consume, dammit!
If this hold true and only 10 seconds are covered under fare use, what keeps them from charging you with 11 fines on a two minute song? (The first ten sec are free).
There are 10 type of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
You insensitive clod!
and pray to God you don't get raided.
Have to disagree on that one, blatant propaganda that shills the fed reserve (allusion) and "fractional reserve banking" congame.
Hollywood does it a lot, look at 24 and the glorification of torture, look at all the john wayne type movies. And etc. Sure, it's all "entertainment", but lurking in there is a lot of psychological and quite effective mass brainwashing. They do it with the so called "news" and they have always done it with "entertainment" as well, just it is more subtle there. It's conditioning "150 days of bread and circuses" to snag one from a more recent hollywood effort. The puppet masters know how to make their marionettes dance. And it can be even more blatant, americas army the "game".
Anyway, you said you were putting your mind rays protective gear back on, so I thought I'd provide some actual reasons why that attire might be necessary.
I have been in favor of something similar, but more wide ranging (and a shorter term, ten years). Make this rule apply to all government, top to bottom, every worker there, elected, hired, appointed, it doesn't matter. No more lifelong careers in government. There is zero incentive to improve government from the inside when the way it is setup insures your entire existence for life. There's no incentive to alter that, the incentive is to perpetuate it and make it even larger, government as a growth and jobs industry is what we have now, and politicians are just the public face of it, the problem permeates the entire thing. Eliminate full time careers and pensions. Ten years in any combination of government "service", then back to the private sector.
Once people realize it is in their best interest to make government functional, cheap, efficient, fair, etc, because they will not always be there, you'll see some decent changes. You have to remove the opposite incentive, and that incentive is the governmental perpetual paycheck, or even two or three with "sheep dipping" as it is called.
People should want to be in government because it's theoretically a place to give back a little, to truly be "of service" to your community and nation, but the way it is now is "us versus them". We lost that government "of the people" a long time ago, it's turned schizoid.
If it wasn't about wanting free songs, then there would just be a lack of interest altogether, with no songs being bought or pirated, or perhaps (given the altruistic motives some cite) the pirated songs would be taken as a protest action then discarded or disregarded. The things being traded are obviously desired, otherwise they would not be taken.
Worth can't really be determined in a skewed market where costs are set independently of the process of creation. By that logic, stolen goods are clearly worthless, since the "buyers" chose to pay nothing for them.
(For those of you about to say it, read again-- That was not a copyright=theft argument.)
Information wants to be free.
Entertainment wants to be paid.
You just want to be cheap.
Worth can't really be determined in a skewed market where costs are set independently of the process of creation.
Radiohead would disagree.
We are all just people.
commander taco works countless hours to bring this site to you, and this is all you have to say?
Bad example, and one I think that bolsters the RIAA's argument. Like the failed Steven King experiment several years ago, the reason Radiohead pulled off this coup of Internet profiteering had everything to do with marketing and advertising.
If *ALL* music was sold this way, you would not see the same effect. If every iTMS download was unencumbered (easily), iTMS certainly wouldn't be making money.
My opinion is that there is a fine balance between DRM and device portability. The RIAA and Industry, however, haven't really found that mix yet.
futile futile futile. no matter which angle you look at it, everyone is a criminal of some sort. im sure there are police officers who use torrent clients. a main factor in labels losing money is the lack of quality, especially in hiphop sales, even industry insiders are starting to say - "maybe we should focus more on quality and not quantity" anybody with a clue isnt going to buy an mp3 player with DRM. its a complete infringement on your right to play the music you paid for as you see fit plus im sure its easily hacked. I buy as many CD's as i can afford, but if i was to pay for my mp3 collection Id be in the gutter...as far as im concerned Id love to see big labels go bankrupt as all they do is throw a crapload of money at rubbish like 50cent & Akon and they dont spend F'all time developing quality artists anymore.....if your 1st album doesnt sell well these days its goodbye, instead of being developed like bands in the 60's and 70's.... Im a producer and in my area of underground hiphop the punters go out of their way to buy your CD because they care about you and they want to support you. thank god for you guys! ]labels know they need a new pricing model...i think radiohead hit the nail on the head when they got an average of about $10 for their new LP....
We really aren't supposed to have a large permanent paid for standing career-professional army. The founders were adamant about that, calling it a danger as some powerful leader could take over, ie, a dictatorship (I think they were correct in this assessment...too bad we didn't follow their advice and guidance). They preferred a well trained and always on call civilian militia. And as such, there would still be well trained folks of all ranks and ages, just not as full time careers. We have that concept now in a limited fashion with the natguard, where they have all ranks/skills/ages, etc. there would be no outside time limit on that, because it isn't a job with the government, so it falls outside the ten year theoretical rule, it is a service that all men between 17 and 45 are required to be available for (organized), and others outside that age bracket and gender could be used if they volunteered and were accepted (everyone else, the unorganized..but willing). "We the people" for the national defense (as opposed to speculative offensive wars for profit or ..pick some other wild reason).
HTH I've thought this through a lot, and obviously that comes up quickly as a potential sticking point, but I feel it can be adequately addressed just by going back to the old original design criteria.
Personally I think he should always be moderated troll due to the siq. Trolling is trolling whether due to the message or siq. I am lucky, being on dialup I clicked his siq and as soon as I saw the text goatse I closed the tab. In a different article someone mentioned how they clicked it at work and were really worried about being fired for browsing goatse. This is one of the best examples of trolling I have come across.
And mods, not only have I turned of my karma bonus but this is on topic as we are talking about a real troll who is posting repeatlly.
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SUN sued the programmer personally for trademark infringement on Java and SUN marks.
The programmer sues Jonathan Schwartz for copyright infringement.
See http://netbula.com/lawsuit/
61. Without getting any response from DeCecco or anyone else from SUN, in August
and September 2006, Plaintiff twice emailed SUN's CEO and President, Jonathan Schwartz,
informing him about the infringement. No SUN employee responded to the two email messages.
62. On information and belief, Julie DeCecco and Jonathan Schwartz, instead of
stopping the infringement, employed delay tactics to continue the infringement. Schwartz and DeCecco forwarded Plaintiff's email messages and related documents to other SUN employees
(including Melnick) and potentially SUN's outside counsel, preparing for lawsuit while permitting
the infringement to continue at SUN and its customers. One of SUN's planned strategies was to
sue Plaintiff personally by alleging trademark infringement on the JAVA and SUN marks.
63. On information and belief, Schwartz owned millions shares of SUN stocks and
derivative securities and was involved in the day-to-day management of SUN's operations,
including operating a blog and answering questions from customers or prospective customers.
http://netbula.com/lawsuit/
ever hear of hillbilly heroin? it's oxycodone. prescription oxycodone. no mafia, no illegality
and yet there is still addiction, lives being ruined, crime in the seconday market, etc.
why?
because of addiction. you need to learn to appreciate what that concept does to your point of view on the opiates
all of the lessons of prohibition are eclipsed in negative value by the sheer extreme addictiveness of the opiates, and outweighs the lessons of prohibition in relation to the opiates
and you have the audacity to talk about free men, when confronted with what opiate addiction does to free men. as in: slavery, zombiehood. talk about blindness
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
All those jobs can be and are done daily by natguard guys, including fighter pilots and so on. I think we could pull off a full return to the organized militia. Training = "organized" in this context. A cadre of full time professionals gets too far removed from the "we the people" concept and turns into the royal guard and king's hessian mercenaries who just blindly "follow orders" from a single human. This is just a bad idea and we can see daily in the headlines why this is so. We need a return to looking at the US as a real "union" of 50 soveriogn states who share a few critical things, and also that the doofus clerk in chief doesn't usurp all the power, like what has happened now. Congress is a paper tiger, the nutso one just issues "signing statements" and does what he wants and all those orders, no matter how insane, inanae or outright ludicrous, are followed.
This is really a bad idea. Real bad. "We the people" tell our representatives what to do, they in turn tell the hired help employee "clerk in chief" what to do, and he is supposed to do that and besides that but out of lawmaking and policy. Not his gig at all.. That's the theory. the US is the first nation ever devised with a bottom up sort of government, evertything flows from the free and sovereign individual with government having a very limited and restricted set of powers and duties and *that's it*. It's completely bass ackwards right now, and needs to change back to the original design.
Of course, you would have to just stop with the wallstreet and bankers wars of aggression and maximum blood profits for this to happen, they got WAY too much actual power and are driving this political bus with the politicians as stand-ins, so they need to be toned down a bunch as well, which IMO would be another good thing. Ike warned us this takeover/coup thing for cash would happen, and it did, and I just dare to say it out loud "he was right, and stuff needs to change back".