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Airport Profilers Learn to Read Facial Expressions

nldavepc writes "There has been a rather scary development in airport security. Airport profilers are watching people's facial expressions for clues of terrorist intent. According to the article,"Travelers at Sea-Tac and dozens of other major airports across America are being scrutinized by teams of TSA behavior-detection officers specially trained to discern the subtlest suspicious behaviors.""

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  1. Oh Noes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think he just gave me a terrorist look!

    1. Re:Oh Noes by notasheep · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Dude, catch up with the times. The 80s and 90s have passed with the 90s posting 1 hijacking of a US flight. (Out of the tens of thousands of flights a year.) So, obviously, it's time to start detaining people based on some behavioral traits that are sure to be kept secret by those doing the watching. (Can't let the terrorists know what we're looking for.) After all, just like with the No Fly and Watchlist there's no way this will be abused...

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    2. Re:Oh Noes by emilper · · Score: 2, Funny

      They will probably detain all passengers traveling via economy class for more than 4 hours per flight. If extended to railways and long distance bus routes, it would be probably more efficient simply to arrest everybody that attempts to buy a ticket: the new "ergonomic" chairs they use 'round here were made with 6 feet tall and 25 BMI white males in mind, and are probably the most important reason for the rise in SUV sales and of the suicide rate during the last 5 years.

  2. Anny connection to this? by stevedcc · · Score: 2, Informative
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  3. "behavior-detection officers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do you Americans realize that you are heading towards a totalitarian regime?

    1. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by somersault · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That was France though, where people actually protest rather than sitting there polishing their shiny, shiny guns.

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    2. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by ubernostrum · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Oddly enough, we aren't the first country to do this, and those who have aren't totalitarian regimes. And as strange as it sounds, when done properly (admittedly, not likely given the "lowest pay and least training wins the contract" system used for American airport security) behavioral profiling is actually an effective security measure; even Bruce Schneier, a Slashdot favorite for debunking silly security theater, is in favor of behavioral profiling when done correctly.

    3. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by somersault · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm talking about matters with their government. A spontaneous angry mob can work in protest against a government, but not really against an entire army that means to wipe them out rather than just pacify them..

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    4. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by daem0n1x · · Score: 3, Insightful

      All the scientific knowledge wasted trying to fight the consequences could be used to fight the causes. But that's way too smart for the current administration to understand.

      Let's hope the next is not so stupid, but I don't foresee significant changes.

      We, people of the 1st World, will be happily marching towards fascism (again) frightened of those darky, weirdy baddies with long fangs dripping blood. There were the Indians, the Jews, then the Commies, now the Muslims, tomorrow someone else.

    5. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by somersault · · Score: 2, Insightful

      These days people are just letting things pass by though.. I'm not American and I didn't study history so maybe I'm mistaken, but I don't think there have been any major protests in America in the last few decades? Not even over fuel prices (which is one of the major things that the French did recently, blockaded the port at Calais until the government dropped their new fuel tax). These days I'd bet the government would take a pretty heavy handed approach to any angry mob getting anywhere near the White House..

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    6. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by jacquesm · · Score: 2, Informative

      not that it matters much, but world war II started when the Germans invaded Poland, not France, and it was in 1939.

    7. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by jacquesm · · Score: 3, Informative

      idiot. the Dutch have arrested 2 terrorist cells in the last couple of years, plenty in the UK and plenty in Germany.

      I wished I could say we don't go out and invade other countries illegally (since we are part & parcel of the lapdog parade and have sent our military into Iraq as well, which in the longer term will hopefully lead to the jailing of those responsible, if they don't manage to squash the investigations over and over again).

    8. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by Holmwood · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're talking about two different things -- you're talking about a collective power, the power of a majority collectivity to read signs in the language they wish to, and their power to ban, fine and imprison those who put up a sign in another language or try to speak another language in the workplace. (Read Bill 101, the Quebec sign law, and its successors if you're not familiar with it).

      I cannot believe you have any significant familiarity with the concept of freedom if you truly believe that arresting people who put up a sign in English represents "freedom". No one could credibly claim this is "freedom" in any reasonable sense of the word.

      Having a state police force to monitor people's speech and signs is "freedom"?

      The earlier poster was talking about the freedom of individuals to put up signs in whatever language they wish.

      In any non-Orwellian fashion, freedom of speech refers to the latter, not the former.

      If any English-first people in the US try to pass laws forcing private businesses to put up signs only in English, I predict they'll be shot down by the First Amendment. I certainly hope they will.

      Now, does that mean the US is "freer" than any other country? I'd say no. While the US has an extremely strong Bill of Rights, the tentacles of federal agencies and departments -- ATF, Justice have remorselessly expanded over the last few decades.

      There was RICO -- to be used only against organized crime. Now it's used routinely. Then there were all the drug laws, and confiscation laws for the "War on Drugs". Look at how widespread that's gotten. Now there's the Patriot Act, to be used only on terrorists.

      Does anyone seriously believe that Patriot Act provisions won't be routinely used ten years from now against ordinary citizens in the same way that RICO provisions are now?

      The state will monitor people's speech in the US in exactly the same way that it does in Quebec. The ostensible goals will be different, "to prevent terrorism" vs. "preserve linguistic purity", but the effect will be similar.

      -Holmwood

    9. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by ATMAvatar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      WASHINGTON, D.C. (AP) -- A large mob of terrorists were gunned-down in front of the White House today, after an attempt to assassinate the President. White House officials called the move "an attack on freedom," while onlookers were not so sure.

      "They didn't look like terrorists to me," said John Smith, a local resident. He explains, "these people seemed to be angrily protesting some new government policy. One of them was even waving around a sign saying 'Welcome to China'."

      President Bush was unavailable for comment.

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    10. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by jacksonj04 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Woah, hang on a second here.

      "The government is employing state-of-the-art behaviour tracking and monitoring software? Totalitarian! They want to store all your biometric details on a chip on your passport? Totalitarian!"

      Fair enough. Now look at this:

      "Airport security are being trained to look for unusual behaviour and nervous looks on people's faces? Totalitarian!"

      I would be quite upset if airport security *weren't* trained to look for these things. It's not a faceless computer doing the work, it's not a magical checklist in the sky, it's not invasive, it doesn't need strip search, it requires you to carry no more documentation, it won't slow down security. It will help spot people doing unusual things or looking out of place with a certain element of humanity behind it. Yes this may include a few errors, but overall I'm a lot happier with a real human being trained to better spot dodgy behaviour than any of the other stuff.

      Not every change to airport security is a massive invasion of your privacy. Grow up and realise that.

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    11. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by EllisDees · · Score: 3, Informative

      Quite a few people protested against going into Iraq this time around. In fact, they were the biggest protests since Vietnam. For some reason, you didn't hear much about them in the media. Hell, there were even some large ones in 2005 yet somehow they were marginalized to the point that people don't even seem to remember they happened. After all, supporting our troops means agreeing with whatever stupid situation our president puts them into.

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    12. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by jahudabudy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Man, I'm glad somebody else here isn't taking crazy pills. I mean, behavior profiling is wrong?! If we shouldn't make judgments about people based on their behavior, what exactly should we use?

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    13. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by pjt33 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The US actively joined the war in 1941, but that doesn't mean that from a US perspective it hadn't already started in 1939. The question is really when the set of conflicts became a "World War", and from that point of view 1939, when most of the large colonial powers became involved, is probably the best answer.

    14. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No kidding, this is about the sanest thing that's been done in the name of security in a long time, but people are so primed to hate any kind of security they're knee-jerking against this one too.

      Guess what, people? The more smart security we have, the less dumb security we'll need.

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    15. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by dryueh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's exactly the opposite: there are protests, large ones, every day in America. The problem is that they're all pre-approved by police and don't really affect any change. Nearly every protest/demonstration I've gone to (and yes, like many protestors, I went to a bunch when I was a sparkly-minded undergrad) takes the atmosphere of a party or some other social event. You'll see kids banging on drums, playing music, dancing, or whatever.

      It would take something pretty extraordinary to elevate a protest to the 'angry mob' you're referring to, given how sanctioned demonstrations are these days.

    16. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by Panaqqa · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agree with the parent post. El Al, the Israeli airline, has been using this as part of their security arsenal for almost as long as they've been around. Made some excellent collars also, some of terrorists, occasionally a terrorist that was planning on blowing up the flight they were trying to board.

      My only concern with this is who is doing the behavioural profiling. A highly experienced security person that has undergone a comprehensive training program for behavioural profiling will be very effective. A typical US airport $10/hour "rent-a-cop" that sat through a boring badly designed half hour seminar with 200 others will be worse than useless.

    17. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "But in the airport everyone is subject to search -- you are forced to agree to that, when you buy your ticket -- and that is, unfortunately, true in all countries. "

      Have I really submitted to that when I bought a ticket? Hmm...I don't remember reading anything like that on the website when I bought my ticket. I never saw it on my ticket/boarding pass. I never signed anything of the like saying I read and understand that I gave up my rights when I bought a ticket to fly somewhere. I never had to do that in the past...years back before I had to show any form of ID in an airport, before when your family could go with you to the gate to see you off, or be waiting there when you got OFF the plane. No, I'm not sure when this implicit 'agreement' was established.

      Oh, that's right...there is apparently some unpublished laws supporting what the TSA says, but, since we cannot see them....how do we know what they say?

      I'm still shocked there isn't much of an uproar over that one...secret US laws that US citizens can't look at?

      Oh well, I guess I'm the only one that just doesn't live out my days worrying about a terrorist strike. I'm afraid I'll lose more of my rights LONG before that happens. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a bit more security than in the 'old' days of about 20 years ago....but, really, I don't accept that I've given up my rights to person, property and privacy...and freedom to travel when I buy and airline ticket these days.

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    18. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by somersault · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hmm yep that rings a bell, have heard people saying that before, but had forgotten about it. It's not really a protest any more, is it? It's like a shepherd with a bunch of sheep.. and it's not going to accomplish anything if it's not causing an inconvenience for the government. No doubt you'll have your revolution someday, but it doesn't seem like it will be anytime soon! ;)

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    19. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by TheLostSamurai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ...got to wonder what kind of misinformed loonies are making all these decisions Well I think it's pretty clear what kind of loonies we have currently running the country, and it's by no means limited to the president or the republican party. All of congress is pandering to fear-monger tactics in order to attain or keep their spot.

      The biggest irony of all is that we have gone down the path that 'The Terrorists', whomever falls under that category, would have wanted. Killing a few thousand people, albeit very tragic, is nothing compared to turning a government against it's own citizens and keeping an entire populous in constant fear. Which they could never have accomplished without the aid of said government.
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    20. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by ladyeyes · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Exactly! The techniques being taught to these folks is no different in general than those taught to people in loss-prevention jobs in every reasonably large store in many countries. What, you think there aren't people in department stores and so on watching people? Watching people's expressions, body language, etc., has been a part of law enforcement of many kinds for as long as there's been laws to enforce. I definitely prefer a live person to an algorithm in a system alerting guards that my walking path has been suspicious because I kept circling the same area (looking for my earring that just fell on the floor).

      Besides, this is old news. This was being mentioned in 2004 during the time of the CAPPS II and TIA stuff.

    21. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by sacrilicious · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I would be quite upset if airport security *weren't* trained to look for these things.

      A question: can these mindreaders detect the difference between "I'm scared of being found out about something illegal" vs "I'm surly and evasive because I don't feel I should have to impress secret police with my joviality"?

      The article says that 70,000 people were referred for further screening, of which 700 were booked for some offense like drug possession, weapons charges, or outstanding warrants. So by those numbers, 99% of the people hassled by the program were innocent.

      So this super duper collection of fear-detection techniques is (a) inconveniencing the sh*t out of a ton of innocents, and (b) producing results that a blind monkey could produce just as well through sheer statistical accident.

      Color me impressed. Don't beat me, I'll smile! Go Amerikka!

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    22. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by nschubach · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think it has more to do with the opinions of the owner of the media. They wield some awful power by censoring what they don't want people to see and showing them what they think will sway popular opinion in their favor. There are some local radio stations that refuse to play music (Lacuna Coil - Heaven's a Lie) that they said was anti-religious, but Flyleaf (an all Christian rock band with multiple songs about faith ["All Around Me", "I'm So Sick"]) is played on a daily (almost hourly) basis. I'm surprised the movie "The Compass" actually made it to the theaters. The religious groups were all over that like flypaper because of the ideology/theology of the original book's author.

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    23. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by The_Wilschon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Hey there geezer. Last time I checked, it was my parents' generation, the Baby Boomers, who were driving this entire national security/loss of freedoms deal. My generation is well aware of it, and hates it.

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    24. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...what exactly should we use?

      Easy. Wait until a crime is committed, then look for clues to ID the perpetrator (who may be dead in some cases.) That's the security policy espoused by most Slashdotters. Interestingly, very few of them are actually responsible for physical security.

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    25. Re:"behavior-detection officers" by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The article says that 70,000 people were referred for further screening, of which 700 were booked for some offense like drug possession, weapons charges, or outstanding warrants. So by those numbers, 99% of the people hassled by the program were innocent. And even more importantly 0% of them were terrorists.

      Which means the program is either a 100% failure, or catching terrorists is not the intended goal - unconstitutional searches are.
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  4. Note to terrorist self by Jawnn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Play more poker.

    1. Re:Note to terrorist self by st0nes · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Good one, but what about people like me who, due to bad experiences in the past are shit scared of authority figures? I always get stopped going through customs & immigration because I can't help looking guilty, even though I'm completely innocent. I've just resigned myself to putting up with the inconvenience of having my bags thoroughly searched and a grilling from uniforms every time I travel. I haven't been to the USA for a while, but I wouldn't be surprised to get a free trip to Guantanamo next time I go...

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  5. Predicted long ago by timon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself -- anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face (to look incredulous when a victory was announced, for example) was itself a punishable offence. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime, it was called."

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    1. Re:Predicted long ago by jellomizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would like to remind you that George Orwell's 1984 is a fiction story telling people to be weary of your rights. But it is not prophecy.
      For this case it is not used to make conviction but to determine if the person could possibly be a threat. As TFA stated only about 10% of the people pulled over actually committed anything, they know that. The Orwellian method is if the person is suspicious then they go to jail.

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    2. Re:Predicted long ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Slippery slope.

    3. Re:Predicted long ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's worth it to note that the oppressed/watched people for the most part in 1984 were the bourgeois, or the upper and middle class, who were part of the Party. You'll notice that the proles were left pretty much alone to do what they wanted.

      Also, I for one am not weary, or tired, of my rights at all. I'm weary of them being eroded, and I'm wary, or watchful, of anyone who says otherwise.

    4. Re:Predicted long ago by MonoSynth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But it is not prophecy. Instead, it's mere extrapolation of totalitarianism in the technologically advancing western world.
    5. Re:Predicted long ago by nahdude812 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Read the article again. It is less than 1%:

      Since January 2006, behavior-detection officers have referred about 70,000 people for secondary screening, Maccario said. Of those, about 600 to 700 were arrested on a variety of charges, including possession of drugs, weapons violations and outstanding warrants.
      The scary thing is that there is absolutely no way to oversight this. These officers could start plucking people for absolutely any reason they want, they are being asked to make a value judgment with an expected accuracy of 1%!! It would take thousands of abuses before an officer's abusive behavior could be successfully identified, and the outcome of that could then simply be, "He needs more training." Further, anyone he finds who really is acting fairly suspicious, he could also pluck, an keep closer to a normal success rate, perhaps close enough that the officer's behavior was never abnormal enough to warrant investigation, while he's actively abusing his power the whole time.

      Government forces should never for any reason be given authoritative powers which are unable to be subject to external oversight.

      Maybe you look like the guy who cut him off in traffic this morning. Maybe he decides to detain a large group just before he detains you, to guarantee that you miss your flight before they can process and pass through the previous group. The point is you simply cannot give unchallengeable power such as this to human beings without it being abused, and with such a small success rate, abuse is both certain and unidentifiable.

      Counting catching people on outstanding arrest warrants against their success tally is all the more indicative of their low actual success rate. They want to make their numbers look as good as possible, so they include people they probably had prior knowledge of. These are people whose names and pictures are on a computer screen that morning, the officers know to watch out for them, and would be caught completely independent of this bogus system, but they count it as a win to this system in order to at least hit that 1% mark.

      Also what do they mean by weapons violations in the above quote? Is this some guy who forgot he had a pocket knife? If it's something more serious like a gun, isn't he again going to get caught in existing security? I would like to see the number of people they caught who would have slipped through normal security. I'd be surprised if it beat 1 in 10 of the people they did arrest. Even fudging their numbers they can't offer a better number than 1% success rate. This program is a failure out the gate, and it is only an opportunity for abuse without oversight.
    6. Re:Predicted long ago by nahdude812 · · Score: 2, Informative

      This isn't a 30-second-step-to-the-side, it's a get-intimate-with-a-latex-glove-in-a-back-room thing. This is a "I have the power to make your life miserable for the next hour or potentially a whole lot longer" sort of thing. It's a "I have the ability to make you completely miss your flight, costing you to buy a new ticket for the next flight, or call off the trip all together" sort of thing.

      It's the assignment of unregulated power to non-elected government officials, based purely and entirely on the judgment of that individual without any form of external oversight into the correctness, fairness, or legitimacy of those judgments. That person decides whether you make your flight on whatever whim he or she feels like. People, being human beings, WILL abuse this. It's not a matter of IF, it's a matter of how often, only we have no way of telling, and no way to identify or regulate the abuse.

      The benefits (if any, which is certainly arguable) do not come even CLOSE to outweighing the cost and risks.

  6. New Buzz-Phrase For 2008 by blcamp · · Score: 4, Funny


    "Don't FACE me, bro!"

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  7. Racial Profiling by Telephone+Sanitizer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The officers ask simple questions:

    "How are you today?"

    "Where are you heading?"

    "Is this all your property?"

    "It's almost irrelevant what your answers are..." That's because I'm not a black grandma carting a bunch of grandkids around.

    This holiday, every person that I saw pulled out for secondary screening was an elderly black woman with a bunch of little kids.

    "We're looking for behavior indicators that show a certain level of stress, fear or anxiety above and beyond that shown by an anxious member of the traveling public." Wow! What a fantastically detailed legal threshold for a full body search!

    The TSA considers the program a powerful tool to root out terrorists, but also an antidote to racial profiling. ..."Not!"
  8. America's getting scary by tech49er · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Solution: Stay away from America ... if they keep going the way they're going that probably wont be such a sacrifice!

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  9. What is a terrorist facial expression? by Nursie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Honestly this is awful. From TFA -

    "When someone lies or tries to be deceptive, ... there are behavior cues that show it. ... A brief flash of fear."

    Now, creative editing aside (lotsa dots in there), what happens when I display a fear microexpression when I'm asked if I have any bomb?

    Because that's what's going to happen, because with all this overhyped security I'm tense and slightly afraid when I'm dealing with these people anyway. Why? Because they have the power, on suspiciuon alone, to really ruin my day, my entire holiday, my business trip or perhaps even my life, depending on just how far they want to take everything.

    So yes, when I get a grilling from a security agent, he's going to see fear. And the fact I now know (s)he's looking for it will make it even more likely.

    Welcome the new world where paranoia becomes a self fulfilling phenomenon.

    1. Re:What is a terrorist facial expression? by Nursie · · Score: 2, Informative

      Also from TFA -

      "The problem is behavioral characteristics will be found where you look for them," the American Civil Liberties of Massachusetts legal director John Reinstein told The Washington Post.

      I happen to agree with him.

    2. Re:What is a terrorist facial expression? by fishbowl · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >What happens when I display a fear microexpression when I'm asked if I have any bomb?

      Well, I can tell you, when they ask you if you know how to *make* a bomb, and you say "I am a physics professor. I'm sure I know how to make a bomb," the searching and questioning intensifies. So you have to either lie to the police, or deal with the consequences of honest answers.

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  10. False positive much? by Fnord666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since January 2006, behavior-detection officers have referred about 70,000 people for secondary screening, Maccario said. Of those, about 600 to 700 were arrested on a variety of charges, including possession of drugs, weapons violations and outstanding warrants.
    So what they are really saying is that this technique has a 99.9% false positive rate. Nice.
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    1. Re:False positive much? by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Worse than that, if you take 70,000 completely random people in any public venue and search them, you'll probably get a few hundred minor drug posession, weapons, and outstanding warrants. So really this has 100% failure rate.

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  11. Trouble with the police by wrook · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Like every good /.er I didn't RTFA. But this reminds me of something that happened to me recently.

    I was walking down the street late at night with a friend of mine. All of a sudden he yells out, "Crap!" and starts getting all agitated.

    "What are you doing", I asked.

    "Don't look! It's the police", he replied. "I always have trouble with them. Every time I see them they follow me and then I end up getting into a hassle."

    I looked at him. Then I looked at the police. Then I waved at the police and they drove off.

    "How did you do that??", he asked incredulously.

    It never occurred to him that his nervousness was the only thing that way attracting the police's attention. For some reason he thought they had it in for him or something.

    I suspect that there will be a lot more people being detained if nervousness is a reason to detain someone. There are just people who are nervous around authority figures. And since that nervousness usually gets them into trouble, they become even more nervous. Welcome to longer lineups at the airport...

  12. Could you speak up? by maillemaker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I couldn't hear you over the latest TV gossip program.

    Besides. I feel safe.

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    1. Re:Could you speak up? by TheDrewbert · · Score: 4, Funny

      Apparently your "sarcasm detection officers" are on strike.

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    2. Re:Could you speak up? by LLKrisJ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ... Wait until the next disgruntled teen steps up to your favorite Wall-mart totin' a bigass shooter.

      Anyways enough of the stupid talk,

      I strongly feel that the US should focus more on taking away the causes of all this senseless terror. You might feel safe but the root of the evil is still there.

      And this evil doesn't stem from some crazy ass muslims here and there who just happen to like offing people, just because there are crazy bastards or something.

      No, these problems all arise because people, Muslims, Jews and Christians (and throw in some Hindus for good measure) alike are falling victim to injustice, thus making them susceptible to the warmongering of only a handfull of so called 'leaders'.

      The Jews got killed in WWII, so the were a bit pissed (and reasonably so). So they went of and conquered themselves some Palestinian land, thus making these guys unhappy (again, reasonably so). You end up with a bunch of Palestinians having nothing anymore, living in the stone age and no discernible way out. In a situation like that it only takes one nut to step up and say 'it's them Jews ho did this to us, lets go out and kill a few...'

      Palestinians kill some Jews, Jews blow Lebanon to pieces with some clusterboms and padabing padaboom, you have a full scale war on your hands.

      Whose fault is this? Nobodies, except maybe the allies (I explicitly don't blame the US all on it's own) from WWOII who decided to try and create Israel in the way they did. This should have been done using more diplomatic ways I think, even if that would have taken 50 years. Hell, I'm no geopolitical expert, but even a child can see what went wrong.

      Same deal with Afghanistan. Russians needed to go so Mujahedein got funded. Once the Russians were gone there was nobody to support the merging nation of Afghanistan. They ended up piss poor and frustrated, a feeding ground for extremists.

      Saddam and the whole Iran vs. Irak story... same thing.

      Why do you think North Koreans are so pissed?? Because they like to lob a nuke in our backyard and because they think this will make things better for them? NO!!!! Because they are piss poor (They were pawns in the cold war between USSR and USA) and because some Chateau-Neuf-Du-Pape drinking bastard tells them it is our fault and if we go away they wil magically become un-poor.

      The problems mentioned here are global problems, caused by the whole world just looking on instead of taking reasonable action. They are not just the USA's fault but the USA is a big player on a global scale, economically, morally and military... They should behave accordingly and not let a bunch of extremists in their own country take over.

      It's not 'them vs. us', it's not 'Christians vs. Muslims', it's about people having the right to live freely and not taking everything from them, making them blind with rage so they cannot think straight and do all kinds of stupid crap to eachother.

      The US and Europe should do something about THAT instead of herassing me at the airport because I happen to look funny (and I do sometimes, really :) ... Just my two cents

    3. Re:Could you speak up? by Monkeyman334 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I took a course on terrorism from a lefty commie, and according him, our text (books from other lefty commies), and common sense agree that the poorest countries in the world support less terrorism than some richer countries. You think Saudi Arabia is poor? What's their excuse? They want an Islamic country. It's ideologicial. They are attacking the US becaue they see the US supporting their modern governments. Look up Sayyid Qutb.

    4. Re:Could you speak up? by LLKrisJ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ok, here goes; I come from BELGIUM... remember that country??? We were those annoying pricks that tried to block some of the American weapons transports from Germany to the Antwerp port in the days leading up to the second Gulf War. :) Internationally speaking our country is an insignificant speck. We got run over in a day or two during WWII. As a nation we are quite powerless. That doesn't change the fact that I very much resent that Europe doesn't make itself more heard in the Middle Eastern conflict. Just like I hold it against the US that they currently cause more trouble than solving any. Africa has it's own problems (ever saw on CNN what's going on in Congo, Nigeria, Rwanda, Sierra Leone, ...???? You are right about the PEOPLE part though (why the caps btw???). Fact of the matter is that people are the product of their respective environments. Palestinians live in a hellhole currently, so when somebody like Osama or whatever comes along to claim that it's the infidels fault and that killing them will solve shit the follow... what else are they to do??? They are kept dumb and poor and AFRAID (nothing to do with burying their heads). And somebody who has nothing is capable of anything. Same goes for average Joe American. Do you really, HONESTLY think that Billy from Iowa gives a flying fuck about Afghanistan, or Iraq or any of their imaginary weapons of mass destruction (again people are being scared by their leaders)? I'm sure he doesn't. Jimmy goes to fight to pay his way through college, to get food on the table for his kids. It's the poor people who go off to die in some godforsaken place. Not the rich assholes like your average Kevin Federline, Tommy Lee, Donald Trumps kids (does he have any??), ...>insert rich guy who has everything... . Idealism??? Hell no... I can understand that the 9-11 attacks were a big trauma for America. I, as a Belgian, was utterly shocked. It shouldn't have happened. But what did the invasion of Iraq solve? Did it bring the 9-11 victims back? Did it prevent another 9-11 from happening? No... This is the only question that needs to be asked... 'Are we doing the right thing with our current approach, are we reaching a solution???' I think all the checks at airports and all the military might of the US eventually will be totally insufficient to prevent this stuff from happening all over again.

    5. Re:Could you speak up? by LLKrisJ · · Score: 2

      Really? Go read the fatwa of Osama bin Laden from 1996. His main complaint is that American infidels were defiling the "land of the two holy places" (ie Saudi Arabia) by their presence in the country. Why were the Americans in Saudi Arabia? Because the Saudis invited them there to protect the country. You cannot reason with this kind of religious extremism - it is kill or be killed.

      Osama can go fornicate a goat for all I care. He runs his mouth 24/7 about infidels and Holy War but he NEEDS certain people for his cause. And for the most part, the people he needs are of the easily brainwashable kind with not much to loose. Making them think they are fighting for religion (while in fact, they are not) gives them purpose, because without it they have nothing. As I said many times before. Do you think that the Muslim counterpart of family guy with a nice house, car, wife, kids, some money in the bank would be easily swayed to give up anything for some deranged guys 'Holy War'? Even the Romans knew -> bread and games will keep the people quiet :). Take it away and they'll cuase trouble.

      Conquered Palestinian land? Absolutely not. The British Mandate of Palestine was picked by the British from the collapsing Ottomans, who ruled the area for centuries. The British took the vast majority of the Mandate's land and created an new Palestinian Arab state called Jordan. The remainder of the Mandate was kept by the British until after World War II ended.

      Give it fancy names all that you like. The Ottomans ruled the place, they were Muslims. Muslims lived there since the time of the crusades and even before. They had to move to accomodate the Jewish people. I can understand they were a bit pissed about that. Not to mention the fact that Israel took the nicest bits of land. And even IF everything went ok and according to the law and what not (which I doubt -> by what right did the British ever think they were allowed to decide what happenend with Jordan and Israel? Can you explain that to me??), why then does Israel, to this day continue to build more settlements??? Don't they have enough already??? What are they achieving besides causing even more trouble for everybody? As long as Israel _as well as_ Palestine keep provoking eachother it will remain a feeding ground for extremists on both sides.

      Hezbollah, with the consent of the Lebanese government, sent a group of armed men across the internationally recognized border between Lebanon & Israel. These men killed & captured a number of Israeli soldiers. Now, when you send a group of armed men across the border to attack the armed forces of another country, that is an act of war. Israel responded with war, and Lebanon got fucked (again). War is a terrible thing, causing great suffering, destruction and loss of life. Maybe the Lebanese won't be so quick to start a war next time.

      How can you justify blowing a whole country to bits because of a few hundred militant people? Normal people will suffer for years because of the cluster boms Israel decided to drop in densely populated areas??? Did the Lebanese people ever have a choice? Did the clusteboms destroy Hezbollah or even hurt them in the slightest? No, this organisation still exists... The only people that got fuck are the farmers who cannot work their land... the kids that loose their limbs playing outside in a field full of nice little bombs. If it was only Israels intention to hurt terrorists, why then don't they contribute in cleaning up the undetonated clusterbombs, so the normal people don't have to suffer??? At least I can say that us Belgians are the only ones currently in the region to actually try and solve shit :) We are cleaning up the bombs, a job that will take years... Where is the rest of the world??? How can you justify the killing of many for a handful of souldiers?? These soldiers chose to fight, the knew the risks. Shit happens. This story is like bombing Texas because a few redne

    6. Re:Could you speak up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Remember, these are the same Americans who supported Saddam Hussein when he attacked Iran. Even if you can justify the Iraq war by saying Saddam is pure evil, the Americans still aren't always on the right side.

      Not sure which Iraq war you are referring to, but I presume the 1991 war. In that war Iraq invaded & conquered its wealthy neighbor, Kuwait. Aside from a few kooks like Yasser Arafat, no one supported Iraq's conquest of Kuwait. Driving Iraq from Kuwait was the right thing to do(TM).

      Although many of the Israeli settlements are on land owned by the Palestenians. Not disputed land (okay, well I guess now it is disputed), but land that the Palestinians have and have always had property rights to. Israel has no incentive to honor the Palestenian rights, not because the Israelis are Jewish but because the Israelis are people. And people who have power rarely concede to those without it.

      Concede? Haha. The Israelis accepted the original UN peace plan dividing the remainder of the British Mandate territory into Arab and Jewish states, the Arabs did not.

      After the Arabs lost the 1967 war, the Arabs held a conference in Khartoom, Sudan. Some call it the three-no conference - the Arab states made three declarations there: No recognition of Israel, No negotiations with Israel and No peace with Israel. By and large, that continues to this day.

      After Egypt made peace with Israel, Israel forcibly removed all Israeli citizens and gave the Egyptians their land back.

      After the Oslo accords that led to the creation of the Palestinian Authority, the PA was supposed to crack down terrorism (they didn't).

      Israel has always been willing to concede, for a real peace accord and cessation of hostilities..

      And the whole Lebanon situation is rediculous. A couple of Israelis are captured and they send Lebanon back to the stone age.

      No, the Lebanese government, without reason, engaged in an act of war with a neighboring state. That started a war. War has EXTREMELY serious consequences, and any country should think twice before starting a war and suffering the consequences.

      If I walk up to Mike Tyson and start punching him in the face, is he entitled to hit me back? Is Tyson's punch likely to break my jaw and send put me in the hospital? Whose fault is that, mine or Tyson's?

      I don't care if Lebanon striked first (which is crap, since they're been fighting forever),

      They haven't been fighting forever. The Israel-Lebanon border has been pretty quiet, except when violence from Lebanon's civil war spilled over and the Israelis were forced to invade in 1982.

      Israel likes to portray itself as the "only democracy in the middle east" and the pinnacle of civilization while Hezbollah are a terrorist organization. The whole "but mommy, johnny hit me first!" argument is rediculous. If you want to hold yourself as the f*cking pinnacle of civilization then I expect you to have more restraint than a bunch of terrorists.

      Ahh, but this wasn't simply the actions of a terrorist organization. This action was approved by the government of Lebanon. Maybe the Lebanese government should be more careful before engaging in acts of war.

      But most of the mayhem, most of the bloodshed, most of the evil, was commited by Isrealis. Israel stooped down to the level of a terrorist organization and then kept on sinking much deeper.

      Really? Despite thousands of bombing flights, artillery, tanks & infantry, total Lebanese casualties were close to 1,000, of which the majority were combatants. Look at the amount of ordanance used by Israel and compare that to any other armed conflict. There are two possible conclusions:

      1. Israelis cannot hit anything. They kept missing their targets, which is why the number of Lebanese deaths was so low.
      2. The Israelis deliberately avoided civilians, which is why the number of Lebanese deaths was so low.

      So, if Hezbollah only had more firepower, they'd cease

    7. Re:Could you speak up? by Latinhypercube · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree with a lot of what you have written. But it is only part of the picture. You assume all this chaos and hatred has somehow been accidental and a knock-on effect. It isn't and hasn't. It is the result of a sustained effort by various empires (namely the US). The US has consistently entered a country and separated it into 2 regions or clans or whatever and then armed them both, before raping that region of everything. Divide and conquer. Over and over again. Guns and ammunition don't build themselves. It takes investment, planning and expertise to arm an army, and a constant input of ammunition and money. The fact is most people are kept oblivious to this because the truth is so repugnant.

  13. Scary? by taskiss · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I WANT the airport security looking for people acting odd. There's only so many ways someone can put themselves into a position where they can injure or kill the other passengers on a plane and having security folks check for people acting odd seems to be an obvious procedure to follow. Someone acting nervous needs to get greater scrutiny. Profile all you want 'cause I'm thinking a blue haired Grandma ain't the best candidate for security to detain and search.

    Then again, I don't insist on wearing tinfoil hats. I WANT bad guys doing bad things caught. I guess I'm in the minority here on /.

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    1. Re:Scary? by Umuri · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ok, here's your scenario.

      Two people walk through airport security, one gets through, the other doesn't.

      One person is a normal citizen, who hears about the horrid things that happen to detainees and people at the hands of airport security, cannot miss their flight home to visit their grandma who is about to die from cancer, and only has the bare minimum time to get through security and onto the plane.

      The other is an actual INTERPOL top 100 criminal. They have survived for years by being able to control their outward appearance and are a master a social engineering in order to avoid security or police in localities.

      Guess which one gets through?

      There's an old saying, only the bad hackers get caught. That applies to criminals. 99% of anti-criminal measures in place such as this will only stop the poorly conceived, the unintelligent, or the unlucky. It will do nothing about people determined, intelligent, and with a plan, which is the attributes the supposed terrorists who want to blow up planes have.
      I'm all for security measures that work, but these aren't it. And that is assuming you subscribe to the group that believes they really are supposed to help catch criminals instead of just promote a more.... federally empowered american government.

      I'm not saying my stance, I'm just saying the sides you can view it from.

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  14. Yeah, Right by Ed+Almos · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anyone seeing my facial expression as I pass through a US airport will immediately see someone pissed off at the delay, disruption and unbelieveable hassle involved with TSA controlled air travel.

    Ed Almos

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  15. Re:check id before get on plane by spamking · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How would this be different than what they already do? You've got to show ID before you even enter the terminal to head through security. Granted, people could switch boarding passes and get on a different plane, but in the end would that really matter?

  16. Care to cite that? by amstrad · · Score: 3, Insightful

    where did you get that bullshit?

    1. Re:Care to cite that? by Carbonite · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, I'm also going to have to call bullshit. There's no way the TSA has the technology, resources or competence to match passengers' destinations with their clothes. Even if such a system did exist, it would be utterly useless due to the number of false positives it would produce.

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    2. Re:Care to cite that? by conureman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Such a system does exist, and it is utterly useless due to the number of false positives. It is referred to by the initials "TSA".

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  17. snake oil by nguy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There is very little evidence that micro-facial expressions actually work for this purpose. Unfortunately, the US government and law enforcement seem to be rather prone to this kind of snake oil. Lie detectors are another example.

  18. Behavioural profiling by kieran · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Behavioural profiling, including facial expressions, is actually one of the more effective predictors of ill intent that airport security has at it's disposal and it's been in use for years.

    Bear in mind you don't get shot for looking suspicious - you just get singled out for further attention. And it's a hell of a lot more positive than profiling on race or blocking people from flying based on their name.

    1. Re:Behavioural profiling by iBod · · Score: 5, Insightful

      >Bear in mind you don't get shot for looking suspicious

      Oh really?

      In London you do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Charles_de_Menezes

  19. Facial Profiling by WebmasterNeal · · Score: 2, Funny

    This sounds like a clear case of facial profiling. Where is the ACLU on this one!

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  20. uh-oh, better ban sunglasses at airports by petes_PoV · · Score: 3, Insightful
    or better still make it a "guantanamo-able" offence.

    If you can't see people's eyes, it's very difficult to interpret their expressions. Obviously sunglasses-wearing travellers have something to hide. Just to be sure, ship 'em off (modern day transportation of criminals?)

    Just as a side-bar, how many of the errrr... ZERO terrorist attacks in the last couple of years would this measure have prevented?

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  21. Re:You - you and YOU! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mustang?

    Muskrat?

    Muskeg?

    Moustache. Moustache. Moustache.

    The more you read it, the wronger it looks. But it's moustache.

  22. This isn't funny by Crock23A · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Do you really think someone who is willing to hijack a plane and then fly it into a skyscraper doesn't already have a poker face? I'm also sure the would-be terrorists already travel regularly so they be well accustomed to the different facets of airport security.

    First it's facial expressions, next it will be the thought police.

  23. I wonder if this is evidence-based at all? by dpbsmith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do they have any way of validating that these techniques actually work?

    How did they do the experiments? Did they have a pool of real terrorists and anxious innocent passengers and a way of doing double-blind testing?

    Or was it the training just done by some expert consultants who possess an air of authority and a confident manner?

    Is this any better than using graphology on the passenger's signature... or having a computer run a quick horoscope... or following the methods of the Malleus Maleficarum?

    Is there any, any, any reason at all to believe in the validity of these techniques?

    1. Re:I wonder if this is evidence-based at all? by The+Mgt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is there any, any, any reason at all to believe in the validity of these techniques?

      You're looking at it the wrong way. Somebody somewhere is making money from this.

    2. Re:I wonder if this is evidence-based at all? by gedeco · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They have a lot of policians to verify this technique.

      It's a natural evolution for former terrorists to become a politician.
      Perhaps someone will define some terrorists as a freedom fighter, but in the end they become all politicians. Look to Tito, Yasser Arafat, Ho Chi Min, Franco and many many others...
      These are the terrorists who succeeded

  24. Airport Security by Aladrin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was in the airport this last weekend to pick someone up. As I sat and waited, I heard the 'if you see anything or anyone suspicious, dial 911' announcement a few dozen times.

    I hate airports to start with, and the added security and craziness makes me hate them more. So now, on top of that, my nervousness might be seen as terrorist attitude and I've got 1 -more- thing to worry about. Great!

    I heard a rumor a while back... The rumor said that we have -never- found even a single terrorist with the security we have at the airports. Not one. Since then, I have never seen a news report that says we found a terrorist at an airport. There are reports of spoiled plots, but they never involve the airport itself... They are always stopped by law enforcement.

    Has anyone got a news report they can cite to show we -have- found terrorists this way? Or are the airport security concerns just harrassing law-abiding citizens?

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    1. Re:Airport Security by aeschenkarnos · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That's because the terrorists were done messing with airports as of September 12, 2001. Once a battle is won, why keep fighting it?

  25. How beautifully naive. by Nursie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Then again, I don't insist on wearing tinfoil hats. I WANT bad guys doing bad things caught. I guess I'm in the minority here on /."

    Oh me too. We all want bad guys doing bad things to be caught. But here on /. you'll find that people aren't quite as willing as average to submit to full body cavity searches in the name of their own security. Or being hassled for hours in an interrogation room because you looked at someone funny. Maybe because we're more socially dysfunctional than average and are always giving people funny looks by accident...

    You might also find the roots of the more prevalent anti-authoritarian attitude here on /. have something to do with the constant flow of stories here on /. (and, to be fair, anywhere else people with half a brain gather) about bad legislation, bad policing, corrupt or transparently bought-out government.

    I fundamentally do not agree with the current crop of legislators on who is a "bad guy doing a bad thing", and I also fundamentally disagree with using unreliable methods to detect said individuals.

  26. About time they look at my face by bamwham · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For the last five years I have been doing the following when I fly: From the moment I step up to the TSA agent checking id's and boarding passes I look them in the eyes. I would say nine times out of ten they check my id against my boarding pass and initial the bp without ever looking up at me. I want them to do what I did when I ran a cash register at a liquor store, check the picture, check the face, check the picture again. I'm to scared that they'll ruin my day to ever point out to them that they never checked my face against the one on my id. About time some of them are at least being taught to look at our faces.

  27. What, Me Worry? by pipingguy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't see what the concern is. I'll take a wild guess and propose that trained security types already know to look for body language and behaviour that indicate nervousness. People do this all the time when dealing with others; the only time this is not observed is when typing on the internet like I'm doing now.

  28. Well spent money and efforts? by flajann · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Since January 2006, behavior-detection officers have referred about 70,000 people for secondary screening, Maccario said. Of those, about 600 to 700 were arrested on a variety of charges, including possession of drugs, weapons violations and outstanding warrants.

    Out of 70,000 people that were harassed by these so-called "Airport Profilers", only about 700 of them were found to be guilty of anything at all. That's a pretty lousy false-positive rate of 99%, which means, of course, 69,300 of these people were needlessly bothered and harassed and humiliated and personally violated.

    Of the 700 or so that was guilty "of something", none were found to be "terrorists".

    Am I missing something here? When was the last time a "terrorist" was found by the TSA in the US? And how much money is being spent on the TSA?

    How many people die in traffic accidents per year? 41,000 or so? How many people in the US die of terrorism in the US per year? Let's average over a decade to account for 911. Over the past ten years, an estimated 410,000 died on our roadways, yet only 3000 by terrorists. So nearly 137 times the number of people in the last 10 years died on the road vs. terrorism, and yet how much money is spent on traffic safety vs. Homeland (In)Security? Am I missing something here?

    You wonderful hard-earned gun-extracted Tax Dollars being put to such useful and meaningful work!!!

    1. Re:Well spent money and efforts? by tbannist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Out of 70,000 people that were harassed by these so-called "Airport Profilers", only about 700 of them were found to be guilty of anything at all. That's a pretty lousy false-positive rate of 99%, which means, of course, 69,300 of these people were needlessly bothered and harassed and humiliated and personally violated. After thinking about this a bit one thing stood out to me:

      A lot of people criticizing the low "catch" rate of the profilers... But what's the normal "catch" rate? I mean they still do inspections, interviews and full body cavity searches even without "facial profiling". Are they harassing more or less people? Are they catching proportionally more or less people from those they harass?

      The questions are probably the most important ones when addressing the effectiveness of the program. Because if they catch 700 people out of 70,000 that seems pretty bad, unless of course they normally catch 200 out of 100,000. And it might seem pretty good to some people, unless of course, the reverse is true and the normal rate is 200 out of 10,000 people. Yay, for failure of the reporter(s) to get the relevant facts once again!
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    2. Re:Well spent money and efforts? by ThosLives · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ok, to clarify for others who also may be confused:

      "Common cause" basically means "due to essentially random conditions" - things like traffic accidents are, on a population-sized basis, random. That is, for a large population, accidents happen at some statistical rate due to the more or less random distribution of weather, driver ability, distractions, etc. There is a fundamental minimum number of such common-cause incidents; this is why, while the auto accident rate has been falling, that rate has slowed and we still have thousands of deaths a year. This is like random metal impurities in mechanical components that cause some of them to break before other ones, and some parts to last "forever". (Now, I agree that you're not likely to die in a car accident if you never ride in a car. However, I'd argue that far less than 100% of the US population is at risk for terrorist attacks - there is no real benefit to terrorists to attack very remote areas because there isn't a high enough concentration of people to terrorize).

      Terrorist attacks, school shootings, etc. are "special cause" because they are *not* random - there is no statistical distribution of these, and they happen because of some specific, unique set of circumstances. This is like mixing the wrong alloy for components which cause a whole bunch of them to break at once.

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  29. 100% fool proof plan to defeat terrorism by Sir_Real · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Stop being afraid.

    There it is. Can't get much simpler than that.

    That sure didn't cost 500 billion dollars (a staggering number, no matter the value of the American fiat peso these days). Nor were uncounted lives wasted on the deployment of this plan, or the occupation that followed its deployment.

    Now that the war is over, and that I've won it, can we fucking stop now? Can we have our airports back? Can we travel freely amongst ourselves without being scrutinized by the sigmoid wielding high school dropouts? Can we speak freely about liberty and freedom of speech without being branded as 9/11 accomplices?

    Anyone? Anyone? Beuller?

    1. Re:100% fool proof plan to defeat terrorism by RealGrouchy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's so cute. You think all this is about terrorism.

      - RG>

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    2. Re:100% fool proof plan to defeat terrorism by iggy_mon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      sure, how else can the government terrorize its citizens?

      lol. but you are absolutely right. it never was about terrorism, but about control. see, those in control have managed to implement a system where NO PROOF(patent pending) is required for detaining any person. watch for the next step, taking it outside the airports. give police the authority to detain and interogate a man sitting and watching the children at a park because he 'looks' suspiciously like a pevert (i hope they remember to take along the guy's kid).

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  30. 1 in 100, how to measure success by tommeke100 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    so, the article says 70,000 ppl got screened due to being suspicious, of which 700 ppl had drugs or something else on them (or where criminals, ...).
    That means, out of 100 ppl they pinpoint with their special training, only 1% really is guilty of something, meaning they harassed 99% of the rest.

    I think they should compare their results with just checking 100 ppl at random. Because a 1% success rate in my opinion in pretty weak.

  31. Easy by tgd · · Score: 5, Funny

    I pick the line with the female screener and just stare at her tits the whole time.

    1. Re:Easy by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 4, Funny

      I pick the line with the female screener and just stare at her tits the whole time.

      This is the TSA. Those tits aren't very good. Even the TSA men have better tits.

    2. Re:Easy by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is the TSA. Those tits aren't very good. Even the TSA men have better tits. So then, just look at those men's tits.

      The best way to avoid a thorough pat-down is to show them that you actually enjoy it. For some reason, the TSA screeners are really uncomfortable around gay passengers...

  32. Fear, anger, surprise, contempt by beavis88 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm pretty sure I show all those emotions in the course of a trip through security:

    Fear: I'm afraid that these idiots are the ones in charge of "making air travel safe"
    Anger: That so many millions of people buy into the farce that is the TSA
    Surprise: That the 85 year old lady in a walker ahead of me in line seems to be the biggest prospective threat of the day
    Contempt: Take your pick.

    I guess I should stop traveling by air?

  33. Re:It's the MUSLIMS, stupid. by Sesticulus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Did you forget Timothy James McVeigh? It was the second largest terrorist attack on US soil. He was not a Muslim.

  34. Geeks Beware; was Re:Racial Profiling by kebes · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It avoids racial profiling but creates a new form of profiling, which basically means some new class of legitimate travelers will suffer the pain of false positives. I really worry about this kind of "expression reading" because:

    1. It targets members of society who have above-average social anxiety, or "deviate from the norm" in some other way. Geeks and Nerds could end up being "more suspicious" simply because they either have mild social anxiety, or because they are "aware" of the facial profiling, hence they appear nervous (because they're thinking "oh crap they're analyzing my face... try to look natural and calm... but don't look like you're trying too hard!" and thus appear to be hiding something).

    2. Overall, as soon as you create rules for deciding who gets greater scrutiny, you create a weakness that the enemy can exploit. The enemy knows what they have to train to avoid/circumvent, thus enabling them to suffer detailed searches less often than average, instead of more often (which was the intention). It has been shown many times that the optimal security strategy is often the one that uses perfect randomness, since there is no defense against it (see Schneier's analysis and this paper).

    So, really, coming up with new and fancy ways to profile people isn't all that helpful. (Of course, there's the dim possibility that they are publicly claiming to profile, but are secretly using a random strategy, hoping that the enemy wastes effort in trying to circumvent a non-existent analysis system, thereby making them easier to catch... but somehow I doubt it.)

    1. Re:Geeks Beware; was Re:Racial Profiling by djmurdoch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It has been shown many times that the optimal security strategy is often the one that uses perfect randomness, since there is no defense against it (see Schneier's analysis [schneier.com] and this paper [firstmonday.org]).

      Neither of those references claim that. They may point out that the current system of automatic profiling is worse than perfectly random selection, but they don't claim random selection is optimal. It's nearly useless at finding a rare individual. (If we randomly search 10% of passengers, a terrorist has a 90% chance of getting through.)

      The second reference points out that you need to apply the same search criterion to everyone, and you need to make sure that individuals can't easily determine whether they were selected or not (so they can't predict whether they'll be selected next time, when they really are carrying a bomb). You can do that by using random selection, but you can do it better using some of the suggestions in that article.

  35. I gotta wonder... by JetScootr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do their techinques take into account people with high functioning autism, or other non-neurotypical conditions that affect body language?
    I accidentally beat a polygraph test years ago because I was so uniformly anxious that when I DID lie, the interpreter didn't see it as any different than my other responses.
    Parts of the autistic condition are severe ADHD and the inability to read or express thru facial or body expressions. The hyperactivity alone (fidgetyness) can be interpreted as sneakiness or a deceptivity-give-away. Other body language miscues produced will result what appears to be "vague, evasive responses - fear shows itself. When you do this long enough, you see it right away."
    Areas crowded with people cause me anxiety by itself, especially if more than one person is trying to talk to me - such as companions, plus airline checkin personnel, and now the body-language gestapo....oops, didn't mean Godwin this, sorry.
    I haven't been in an airport since 9/11 and I sure as hell ain't gonna go now.

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  36. Not a horrible idea. by doctor_nation · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So, no positive replies to this at all? When it's trying to do the same thing that has been most successful in other countries? It's a much better idea than relying on random searches and X-ray machines. The machines are easy to confuse and to avoid a random search all you have to do is look white and Christian. At least this way there is some hope that you can detect anyone that is a possible threat. That said, I'm sure the underpaid screeners will do a crappy job. If you're working airport security in the US, you're probably not very bright. And I'm not one of the people who is terribly afraid of a terrorist attack (especially on an airplane) either. But if they're going to pull some percentage of travelers out of line for secondary screening, it would be nice if they had a reason other than skin color or religious dress. I've certainly never seen someone in full Muslim attire make it through security without being pulled aside.

  37. Re:So ask yourself... by atomic-penguin · · Score: 2, Funny

    You're a constipated terrorist.

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  38. Yes, but.... by Zygote-IC- · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In the worst case scenario for both examples, one is far worse.

    Let's say a busload of nuns, a busload of blind pre-schoolers, a busload of puppies and a busload of apple pies all manage, through some freak accident, to collide with a propane truck -- doing the math, that's a lot of dead nuns, kids, puppies and delicious apple pie, plus a blue collar propane truck driver.

    On the other hand, half a dozen guys with nuke components and you end up with all that and maybe a million more?

    And yes, I think nuclear terrorism is overstated, and yes the "mushroom cloud" imagery is just a political hot button.

    But we're talking worst case scenarios here. And besides, wasn't it, "Could they fly planes into.....naaaaaaah" that got us into this mess to begin with?

  39. But the target isn't the 'Interpol top 100' by murderlegendre · · Score: 3, Insightful

    First and foremost, they are screening for suicide bombers and hijackers.. I think it goes without saying that it's difficult to become a seasoned, experienced suicide bomber. Likewise, with a few notable exceptions, hijackers have a pretty long track record of getting busted on their first go-round.

    While I'm sure the TSA would be perfectly happy to catch slippery international career criminals, it's the disposable cannon fodder which most concerns them. Just a guess, but I suspect that the TSA officers receive considerably more training in detecting the behavior of these types, than the criminals themselves receive in suppressing the same.

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    1. Re:But the target isn't the 'Interpol top 100' by murderlegendre · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you're the sort of person so convinced in the reality and greatness of Allah that you'll willingly go to your own death, does that not imply something in the way of confidence in what you're doing?

      I know it's all Allah-be-praised on the propaganda side, but a frequent motivation for many suicide bombers (at least on the ground) is actually money. Umbrella organizations like Al Quaeda, Hammas and the like frequently offer a sizable payout to your next-of-kin for services rendered in the name of the jihad. So, you get the virgins, your mom and dad get lifted out of eternal poverty and god's will is done. Everybody wins!

      But your comment is certainly not lacking in insight.. though I might suggest that since the almighty has consistently failed to rout the infidels from his lands, he might not be completely trusted with your safe passage through the TSA screening. Flashes of uncertainty and doubt may well run through the mind of the pre-martyr, and it's the facial evidence of these brief lapses which are the subject of interest.

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  40. Where have I heard this before? by Minwee · · Score: 2, Funny

    The officers ask simple questions:

    "How are you today?"
    "Where are you heading?"
    "Is this all your property?"

    "It's almost irrelevant what your answers are," Maccario said. "It's more relevant how you respond. Vague, evasive responses -- fear shows itself. When you do this long enough, you see it right away."

    "You're in a desert, walking along in the sand when all of a sudden you look down and see a tortoise. It's crawling towards you. You reach down and flip the tortoise over on its back. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over. But it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping."

  41. Excellent. Finally learning from the experts. by swillden · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Lots of slashdotters are decrying this as a bad thing.

    You're all wrong.

    This is the *right* way to do airport security. Finally!

    Take a look at the country that has the biggest terrorist problem anywhere -- Israel -- and take a look at their airport security record. The reason it's so good is simple; Israel doesn't focus on keeping bad *things* off of planes, they focus on keeping bad *people* off of planes.

    It doesn't matter how many penknives and bottles of water you confiscate, a determined terrorist can easily get something usable as a weapon on the airplane. It wouldn't be that difficult to get guns on the plane, actually. To prevent terrorist attacks in the skies, you need to keep the terrorists off the planes, not their shoes.

    Israeli airport screeners do search your stuff. Very thoroughly, in fact. But the one looking through your stuff is really just trying to make you nervous. The other one is watching your face, posture and movements, looking for responses that are wrong. He's also firing questions at you almost faster than you can answer them, sometimes asking the question multiple ways to look for evasions. Finally, he's noting key points of your answers which he's going to threaten to check -- and may actually check if the rest of it gives him any concern. "Where did you go?", "Who did you meet with?", "Do you have his business card?", etc. The answers to the questions are important, but even more important is their effect, which is to rattle you.

    I'm not trying to say that US airports should adopt the same approach. For one thing, it's too slow and way too costly to have two highly-trained officers interrogate each and every traveler for 5+ minutes. But the basic concept can be applied here: apply enough scrutiny and pressure to make people nervous, then watch their reactions. Focus more attention on those whose reactions are wrong. Who defines what "wrong" means? Experience.

    Oh, and then let people take a coke or a penknife on the airplane.

    Personally, I think we ought to back off on the whole thing. We don't have the same sort of problem with terrorism that Israel does, and aren't going to, as long as we get someone more rational to replace Bush. Sure we had 9/11 -- a fleabite in the grand scheme of things, killing less people than die on the highways each month and doing less property damage than a good-sized hurricane. Simple refusal to be terrorized, acceptance that bad things sometimes happen, is the best approach IMO. That and, in the case of aircraft, aggressive passenger response to any attempted hijacking -- oh, and keeping passengers out of the cockpit is a cheap, easy and effective change.

    If we're going to try to stop terrorism at the TSA security checkpoint, though, *this* is the right way to do it. Requiring passengers to carry their toothpaste and aftershave in a one-quart baggie is pointless security theatre.

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  42. Note to self by e-scetic · · Score: 3, Funny

    Get botoxed before travelling.

  43. Yes, you are mistaken... by encoderer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, you are mistaken.

    The Million Man March was held on the Mall in DC in 1995, with somewhere between 500,000 and 1,000,000 people.

    This garnered a lot of attention and the "Million * March" naming scheme was borrowed by a number of later groups, such as the:

    - Million Mom March, May 2000, about 150,000 - 200,000 women advocating for gun control laws
    - Million Worker March, 2004, about 10,000 people protesting globalization and free-trade treaties
    - Million Family March, 2000, tens-of-thousands of people

    Furthermore, there have been an enormous amount of anti-war protests against the war in Iraq, starting in 2002 and continuing to today

    There was also a lot of coverage for the 1999 Anti-WTO protests in Seattle, WA that brought out an estimated 50,000-100,000 people.

    And, of course, there were so many protesters when Bush was inaugurated into Office in 2000 that he was the first President in over a hundred years that couldn't walk from the capitol to the White House after being sworn-in. He had to be taken there in an armored car.

    And you'd be surprised about the proximity to the White House. Nearly all marches/protests are held on the Mall in DC, which is a huge expanse that runs between the US Capitol on one end and the Washington Monument on the other end, with the White House right in between. It's set back a couple hundred yards from the mall, but the protests where abutted right against the White House gate.

    You know.. I'm so sick of arrogant Europeans talking trash about how ignorant Americans are, when so many show that same ignorance about Americans themselves. I mean, no offense, in a country like America, with 300,000,000 people and, as the only remaining "Super Power", LOTS of things to protest, to assume that we've had no "major" protests in 30 years just shows an alarming bias/ignorance of our culture.

    1. Re:Yes, you are mistaken... by encoderer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, I used scare-quotes for a reason...

    2. Re:Yes, you are mistaken... by encoderer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your ignorance still astounds me.

      First, I named 6 large protests. Not "4 or 5."

      Second, I alluded to NEAR CONSTANT PROTEST of the Iraq War since 2002. Millions of people have been involved in these.

      Third, It's a bit pedantic of you to assume that I, a mere mortal, was able to name EVERY LARGE PROTEST in our VAST nation over the last 30 years, isn't it? Especially considering I'm 25....

      Fourth, what makes you think they didn't accomplish anything?

      Fifth, I've heard your former Prime Minister Blair call the US the "last remaining super power" more than once. I'm not bragging, i'm just stating the facts. The measure of a "Super Power" is not how many nukes does one have. That's the measure of a "Nuclear Power." ..."Super Power" is about economic power, military might, and global influence. I'm seriously not interested in getting into a pissing match over this. I mentioned it only to illustrate that it's patently ABSURD to assume a country like the US has not had an enormous number of protests. You decided to fix upon those 2 words in my post, probably because you found yourself unable to say much about the crux of my argument.

      And finally, most Americans haven't protested fuel prices because it's an inconvenience, not an atrocity. Most of us just drive less, drive slower, and drive more efficient vehicles.

    3. Re:Yes, you are mistaken... by R2.0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "You know.. I'm so sick of arrogant Europeans talking trash about how ignorant Americans are, when so many show that same ignorance about Americans themselves. I mean, no offense, in a country like America, with 300,000,000 people and, as the only remaining "Super Power", LOTS of things to protest, to assume that we've had no "major" protests in 30 years just shows an alarming bias/ignorance of our culture."

      You miss the point. In Europe, a "major protest" means
      - shutting down a country's whole train system
      - Shutting down a country's highway systems by blocking the roads with trucks or farm implements
      - Shutting down a country's flagship university
      - Rioting and arson all over amajor city.

      The first 2 don't happen here because the country is just so damned large, no one can get a "nationwide" anything done. The third happens infrequently, on smaller campuses, but not over national issues - Gallaudet students shut down teh school for a few days because the proposed president wasn't deaf enough (really). As for the fourth, they happen - they are called riots and dealt with by police as criminal acts, not protests.

      While Europeans talk about international issues a lot, their outlooks tend to be very provincial when looking at the US - they don't understand the size of the country ( I had relatives visit PA once who wanted to visit Texas because they thought it was a day trip), nor the political system, nor the people. In many ways, we are still the trash that they were glad to see leave in the great immigrant waves of the previous centuries - low class and low brow. Now that they are moving closer to political union with looser borders, they are getting a taste of our world - regional interests vying on a larger stage, immigration, and underclass of a different color, and an unaccountable leadership.

      My ancestors left Europe for a reason; as far as I'm concerned, not a lot has changed except the lack of warfare for 50 years - an historical fluke which someone will remedy soon enough. I'm guessing Germany or France - you just don't shake Hitler or Napoleon out of the collective consciousness with the wave of a hat.

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    4. Re:Yes, you are mistaken... by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Most of us just drive less, drive slower, and drive more efficient vehicles. I have seen no evidence of this whatsoever. I live in southern NH, and over the last year have spent a fair amount of time in NV, ME, MA and NJ. The roads are more congested, driving speeds are higher if anything, and most (75% or more?) of the vehicles on the road around here are goddamned SUVs/pickup trucks/minivans.

    5. Re:Yes, you are mistaken... by encoderer · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're right, it's not very noticible, but on NPR this week (too busy to find the exact reference, but you can probably find it if you dig) they mentioned that this is the first year in a long time where gasoline usage remained flat compared to the previous year.

      Since there were more cars on the road in 07, and more Americans of driving age, that seems to demonstrate some combination of the above (Less Driving, more efficient (slower) driving, or more efficient cars).

      Still, the fact that we weren't able to actually REDUCE usage shows that we're not being as prudent as we should be.

      What has happened, though, is that people are spending less on dining out, holidays, and other "disposable income" type things. Rather than change their driving habits, they make cuts elsewhere to offset the higher costs. That surprises me. My dad owns a couple Sunoco franchises here in Ohio. One thing he's noticed is that in-store sales have taken a HUGE hit. That's unfortunate because gas stations make most their profit from store-sales and make very little (and sometimes lose money) on gas sales. The gas is just to reel you in. The 300% markup on candy bars and the 1400% mark-up on fountain drinks are where they make most their money.

      This is way off target, but it's something I find interesting.

      I bought a Volvo S60 a couple years ago. It's the first car I owned that had a readout of the _instantaneous_ gas mileage. It's not uncommon to have the Average MPG readout, which the S60 also has, but you can flip it over to show you your instantaneous MPG at any given time, updated once per second.

      Anywho, I was stunned to see how much gas is wasted in city driving. It comes almost exclusively from the first 10-20 seconds after pulling away from a stop. The combination of the rolling-resistance and the fact that 1st is the most inefficient gear blows my mind: I'd press my foot to the gas with medium pressure--not tearing away from the light--and my MPG goes like this, (updated once per second): 12MPG, 8MPG, 5MPG, 5MPG, 5MPG, 5MPG, 8MPG, 10MPG, 12MPG, 16MPG, 20.... etc..

      and when you floor it from a light, it literally goes down to 1MPG.

      The secret is to go as gentle as possible on the throttle. On the highway, of course, anything over 70MPH and you're killing your MPG. But even if you ALWAYS go 65 and not a mile above, if you don't change driving habits in city-driving, you won't notice a DENT on your MPG.

      I shake my head now as I see people racing from stop light to stop light. And even if there's no other light in sight, the racing from 0 to the speed limit is just STUPID and it's KILLING their MPG.

      I swear, it's my totally non-scientific belief that if Americans would just change the way we drive, we could probably cut our usage of OPEC oil ENTIRELY. Not to mention, it's easier on your brakes, your cooling system, and your suspension.

      Fast driving is not the problem. Quick acceleration is the problem. My car is a turbocharged 5 cylinder engine, but I can still get 30+MPG at 75MPH w/ my cruise set.

      I now only need to fill-up 3 times a month instead of 4. That's saving me 18 gallons of gas and $700 a year.

      And, of course, the kicker to this argument is that the perception of speed is NOT the same as actually being speedy. Unless you're talking long-haul commutes, accelerating fast from a light might save, what, a couple minutes? And driving 90 on the e-way instead of 60 on your 20-mile commute to work means that you'll be getting there 7 minutes before me, but you used 1.2 gallons of gas, and I used 0.75 gallons.

      I never thought about gas mileage until that readout on my dash put it bluntly in my face.

      Perhaps the only thing better would be if it actually output how much it's costing in DOLLARS not MPG. Figure that out (maybe a bluetooth connection that tells your car the price of gas as you fill up) and mandate it in every car and I'd bet you'll see a real reduction in gas usage.

  44. Re:And voting for "tax-and-spend" Dems helps? by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    "And now we have utter morons who want to turn our HEALTH CARE over to the same government that gives us the TSA?

    How fucking stupid is that?

    Really.

    You've got to be utterly unable to add two and two if you think TSA is bad but yet that same government would do a great job providing you medical care."

    I hear ya. I've seen first hand how [sarcasm]productive and efficient[/sarcasm] the govt. and govt programs are. I've had to live through what FEMA did for the NOLA area. I've worked with the Feds on computer projects, etc...and let me tell you, they have NEVER done anything without horrible red tape, politicals making decisions over professionals, and within decent costs. We do need the govt. for certain things...Constitutional type things. Defense...good, infrastructure....good. But, really them being in charge of some things is quite scary. We do need some medical reform in this country. I'd think regulating the insurance, the lawyers, and the HMOs and other for profit leeches that make the system so $$$, and takes the actual Dr's out of the decision loops would be a major start. Also, make it where the insurance co's can't cherry pick only the best people to cover. There is a large sector out there that can easily pay for their coverage IF some one would offer them coverage...at any cost.

    But, you think medicine is bad now...wait till the US govt is in charge. We'll sink under the $$$ and bureacracy that will engender. I mean, this IS the same govt. that listened to big drug companies, and refused to let the govt. bargain with drug co's for best pricing.....at least they got it right when they let the VA system do this years back. But, please...with the US govt. already so bought and paid for, do you really think a fair, efficient, flexible (everyone's health needs are different) will magically come about when the US Fed. government takes over?

    Like the parent said....look how well they've done TSA (and other programs, isn't US education wonderful these days?).

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  45. Underlying principle is well-known by Bearhouse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Neil Rackham, best-known for formalising the 'SPIN' sales technique, used many sources to identify high performers in person to person situations. One example I remember from his highly-readable book, is where he observed customs officers.

    Those who were better at spotting offenders commonly said it was 'instinct'. When observing those people at work, Rackham noticed that they in fact picked up verbal and non-verbal clues, (avoiding eye contact...), that could then be codified and tranferred to others via training.

  46. Re:And voting for "tax-and-spend" Dems helps? by RoverDaddy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hmmm... the gov't does one thing badly, so the gov't shouldn't do anything? How stupid is that. Hey, I believe in small government, but there is no logic to your argument.

    I guess we should all take care of our own roads, buy a fire truck to park in each driveway, take turns policing the streets, pay a local company to do medical research on diseases we don't have (and hardly anyone has), etc.

    I have no idea whether government managed health care is a good idea. But politicizing the issue doesn't help us learn anything. If you must bring politics into it, I'll just note that the "tax-and-spend" Republicans haven't done much better at managing the country - the just spend the money on different things.

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  47. misidentification fear by wikinerd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Some people are extremely afraid of misidentification. Can the screeners distinguish between terrorists who are afraid of being caught and lawful citizens who are afraid of being killed on the spot by overzealous counterterrorism agents who misread a facial expression or two?

  48. TSA Training by Ixtl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    To my shame and discredit, I was a TSA Security Officer for about four years (Somebody had to pay the bills while my wife went through med school). If this new program follows any of their other training procedures, it's essentially worthless. They introduced a position for a specially trained "Bomb Appraisal Officer" whom you call in when you see a potential explosive device on the x-ray screen or in a bag search, and this officer's job is to decide whether to call the Bomb Squad. The intense training regimen for this position was two thirty-minute CD-ROMs sent from headquarters. How that is supposed to turn an average screener into an explosives expert, I couldn't say. Aside from a handful of improvements, mostly in terms of physical security (locks, fences around airfields, reinforced cockpit doors) TSA is just window dressing--an elaborate and expensive sleight-of-hand to make the public think that their government is "doing something" about terrorism. But I was obscenely overpaid to do a very simple job for a few years, so I guess I shouldn't complain.

  49. Re:It's the MUSLIMS, stupid. by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's why I'm training a terrorist cell that dresses as 19th century English gentry, resplendent in houndstooth caps and handlebar moustaches atop penny farthing bicycles.

    They'll never suspect a thing until it's too late. BWAHAHAHA!

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  50. Airport Screeners by Zigmun_Barsac · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ah, yes. The same people who strip-searched a Marine Corps honor guard and attempeted to confiscate Joe Foss' Medal of Honor. I am so glad not to be business travelling anymore.

  51. Re:Excellent. Finally learning from the experts. by russotto · · Score: 2, Insightful
    (about Israeli airport security)

    Finally, he's noting key points of your answers which he's going to threaten to check -- and may actually check if the rest of it gives him any concern. "Where did you go?", "Who did you meet with?", "Do you have his business card?", etc. The answers to the questions are important, but even more important is their effect, which is to rattle you.


    Apparently you DO become your enemies. Or, at least, the Stasi used the same techniques, and they presumably got it from the Gestapo.
  52. Cultural differences by kbahey · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is amazing.

    Does anyone know how culture factors in here?

    Things that are expected to be "nice" in US culture is rude in others. Examples are looking someone in the eye. In the US, it is expected, while it is insolent in many other cultures. Not looking someone in the eye can mean disrespect, evasion, sneakiness, ...etc.

    This is going to be fun to watch, unless you are the suspect that is ...

  53. Re:Look in the mirror. by doctor_nation · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Airport security doesn't get paid well and is an unpleasant job to boot. Therefore, anyone who can get a better job at the same pay will do so. If they can't get a better job, they probably didn't go to college. Obviously, there are many reasons not to go to college, but if you don't you probably weren't valedictorian in high school. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that airport security is not in general composed of well-educated people. I wasn't making a generalization, I was making a reasoned assumption.

  54. Yeah, But What If A Passenger by aquatone282 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    . . . is wearing a burqa or niqab?

    Seriously - how is that handled? Are they taken to a private room with a female TSA employee and made to remove it?

    I hope so. . . Because I'm not getting on a plane with anyone who doesn't have to submit to the same level of scrutiny as the rest of us, regardless of their religious beliefs.

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  55. thoughtcrime by Hard_Code · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "microfacial expressions -- a flash of feelings that in a fraction of a second reflects emotions such as fear, anger, surprise or contempt"

    Hmm, I am quasi-"middle-eastern" looking (half Indian), have contempt (and possibly surprise and anger) for government agents bothering me with nosy questions, and fear of being secretly whisked away and imprisoned in a legal limbo. So I guess that makes me an immediate suspect. If they asked me where I was going, I would probably say "home". Vague and elusive? Hells yeah.

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  56. Re:And voting for "tax-and-spend" Dems helps? by illumin8 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But, you think medicine is bad now...wait till the US govt is in charge. We'll sink under the $$$ and bureacracy that will engender.
    Thank you for spouting the same "we don't want the people that run the DMV to run our healthcare" FUD that you hear on Fox News 24/7.

    The plain and simple fact of the matter is that all of the proposed mandatory health insurance plans are just that: mandatory health insurance. The government is in no way going to "take over" healthcare and start running hospitals and put all doctors on government payroll. It is ridiculous to think we would just throw out our entire healthcare industry, as it is one of the biggest parts of our US economy.

    What the government would do under some of the proposed plans is make health insurance mandatory. That means that every American will be insured. If they can't afford to pay the premiums, they get government help to pay (your tax dollars at work), but if they're working their premium is usually paid partially by their employer and partially by themselves.

    The healthcare system stays the same. You can still pick your doctor, pick your hospital. The coverage is mandatory.

    Quit spouting the republican FUD about the government taking over all healthcare. It will never happen. The republicans are trying to sell this image of countries like the UK who actually run their own hospitals and hire doctors. This is pretty inefficient, as we've already proven that capitalism works for things like this.

    Most reasonable Americans would agree that everyone should have health insurance. The current system for poor people, which is basically, you wait until you're really sick, almost dead, then go to the emergency room for unscheduled, extremely expensive ($$$) healthcare, which you'll never be able to pay the bill for, doesn't work. What does work and is much less costly ($) is to have everyone insured, so that the poor people have the option of going to a regular doctor who might be able to find and resolve health issues early, before they become major emergency room operations that we all have to pay for indirectly (unpaid emergency room bills increase hospital costs, which increases the rate of all healthcare).

    But far be it from the Republican and right-wing controlled media to tell you what the healthcare plans are really about. It sounds much more scary and gets more viewers to show some dingy DMV office with lines out the doors and say "POLITICIAN A WANTS TO TURN YOUR HOSPITALS INTO THIS! STORY AT 11!"
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  57. Not a promissing track record by famoustrader · · Score: 2, Insightful

    According to the article: "Since January 2006, behavior-detection officers have referred about 70,000 people for secondary screening, Maccario said. Of those, about 600 to 700 were arrested on a variety of charges, including possession of drugs, weapons violations and outstanding warrants." Sounds like roughly a 99% of referrals are false positives. Is the training actually worth the time, expense, and inconvenience to innocent travelers? I wonder if an observer, untrained in the subtle skill of detecting micro-facial expressions, would do much worse just by looking for people who obviously, and more generally look suspicious.

  58. they will see murderous rage in my eyes by 0111+1110 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    [blockquote]For example, in some cultures people don't make eye contact with people in authority.[/blockquote]

    I seldom make eye contact with TSA officers, police or other such 'people in authority'. Which is quite sensible since they would quickly see my ever so strong desire to cut them up into little pieces and feed them to sharks. I fucking hate these overgrown-schoolyard-bully morons. I do not exaggerate when I say that I would so happily kill any one of them without even a moments hesitation if the chance arose to do it without dying or going to prison. And all of my fellow Americans who want to keep this country headed right into the oh so super secure abyss of totalitarianism. F U. And please die. I look at these modern day SS officers with the hate and disgust that they so richly deserve. Seriously folks it's getting to the point where our government needs to go down. Hard.

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