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10 Strange Computer Keyboards

DirectedImpact noted an amusing little compilation of 10 strange keyboards. Some of them you've probably seen before (the laser keyboard, the optimus OLED keyboard) and others are quite real (I actually had one of those split keyboards for awhile) and others are pretty out there: like the keyboard built into the lacy doily placemat thingee.

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  1. No ErgoDex DX1? by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    My personal fav weird keyboard is the ErgoDex DX1 Keyboard. Completely moveable keys, macros, etc. Recognfigure it however you like. Runs about $150.

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    1. Re:No ErgoDex DX1? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      What about this one?
      http://www.maltron.com/

    2. Re:No ErgoDex DX1? by God'sDuck · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Maltron is supposed to be great. I have the Kinesis version -- the key "wells" are great for reducing finger travel, and the long stroke distance takes away the impact of the the key bottoming out. Very nice, and dramatically extends (more than doubles) the hours per day I can work before my fingers start burning. Took about a day to adjust, and a week to get back up to full speed.

      I have nasty RSI or something like it, and the Kinesis just seemed the best balance of bang for the buck -- the Safetype was more for wrist than finger problems, split keyboards and basic ergonomics didn't do enough, and the Datahand (mentioned below) was too spendy for me to try unless the Kinesis wasn't good enough.

      Seriously young geeks -- if your fingers start hurting, do something before you do permanent harm. Switch mice (vertical mouse, trackball or tablet), switch keyboards, try Dvorak or Colemak, talk to your doctor -- it just gets worse over time if you don't.

    3. Re:No ErgoDex DX1? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I switched to a Logitech Office Comfort split keyboard. Do you figure that's enough?

    4. Re:No ErgoDex DX1? by clampolo · · Score: 1

      I was starting to get the signs of carpal tunnel: I was losing feeling in my left thumb. For all of you younger engineers, losing sensation in your fingers is the first sign of early carpal tunnel syndrome.
      I bought a Kinesis for about $300, and my hands healed within a couple weeks. It's a good 5 years later and I am still happy with my investment.

    5. Re:No ErgoDex DX1? by God'sDuck · · Score: 1

      If your symptoms disappear or lessen considerably, yes, if not, no. Easy test. :-)

    6. Re:No ErgoDex DX1? by thegnu · · Score: 1

      I've got the Kinesis Freestyle, which allows me to readjust it throughout the day, and I've found that's a very good compromise between super-awesome freaky keyboard and cheap. I think the greater the angle, the better.

      But what the other guy said about if the pain goes away, it worked. That's the way to tell. :-)

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  2. The forgot one of the oldest and best.... by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.handykey.com/

    the twiddler, I even still have one in the basement somewhere from 1993 when I was into Wearable computing. when you got used to it you could type really fast, it was fun writing C code when you were walking from the bust stop to your EE classes while looking in the LED alphanumeric hud.

    Cool part it was a mouse as well.

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    1. Re:The forgot one of the oldest and best.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      it was fun writing C code when you were walking from the bust stop to your EE classes

      Hmmm, I don't recall ever visiting that club...

    2. Re:The forgot one of the oldest and best.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      you were walking from the bust stop to your EE classes

      Hey Freud, your slip is showing.

    3. Re:The forgot one of the oldest and best.... by somersault · · Score: 1, Funny

      What would you expect from a guy that walks around fingering his twiddler in public?

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    4. Re:The forgot one of the oldest and best.... by Faylone · · Score: 1

      Perhaps that's because it seems to be a store for selling custom fitted bras, not a club. http://www.buststop.com/

    5. Re:The forgot one of the oldest and best.... by lhorn · · Score: 1

      Kind of a Chord http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chorded_keyboard keyboard??
      Hey, my telephone has T9, and I am getting used to it. Has somebody combined T9
      with this as a mouse/onehand input device? OOps...
      Memo to Self: Do not publish ideas before the money is on the table.
      Memo to Self: Who cares, I will not make one of these as my days are rather full,
      so the only way I will get one is if somebody runs with the idea. China? Taiwan? India?

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    6. Re:The forgot one of the oldest and best.... by BrianRaker · · Score: 1

      T9 is not a chording keyboard system. T9 takes each individual keypress of the numeric keypad and checks it against a dictionary of known words that can be spelled from that series of keys. Chording means that you press one or more keys at the same time to in effect replicate every individual key from a keyboard layout of your choice.

      And IIRC, the Twiddler was designed in the USA.

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    7. Re:The forgot one of the oldest and best.... by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      Cool part

      Not possible.

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    8. Re:The forgot one of the oldest and best.... by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "it was fun writing C code when you were walking from the bust stop to your EE classes while looking in the LED alphanumeric hud."

      Virgin.

    9. Re:The forgot one of the oldest and best.... by conureman · · Score: 1

      I like to study EE cups. You took a class? Sounds like an interesting major.

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  3. Windows ME keyboard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    What about this minimalistic Microsoft keyboard?

  4. There's more where those came from by sticks_us · · Score: 5, Informative

    A similar article, with a couple of other--even weirder, IMHO--classics can be found here.

    The Orbitouch FTW!

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  5. Where is mine by houghi · · Score: 1

    The Happy Hacker. Most people who see it think it is strange. I have had IT people unable to log in as admin, becayse they were unable to figure out you needed 4 fingers for the three finger salute.

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    1. Re:Where is mine by Usquebaugh · · Score: 1

      This sorta ties in with my new years' resolution, to learn to touch type after 20+ years as a professional programmer!

      I have a couple of the HHKII one for home one for work. But this and every other normal keyboard is too small for my hands and requires me to move my hands when typing.

      So I'm looking to change, my new standard keyboard should arrive today and then I'm looking to change it to dvorak layout. Big keys plenty of space and most importantly the keys are all staggered the way my hands lay on the keyboard on a normal keyboard the Q,W,E and R keys require my left hand to move to the left off the home keys.

      I've also picked up a dual BAT keyboard on ebay just to try.

      If all of the above fails, unlikely, I'll be buying a large number of cherry mechanical switches and building my own keyboard with a dvorak layout.

      Does anyboard have supply for individual buckling spring switches?

    2. Re:Where is mine by Ragzouken · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've got a BAT keyboard, I've found it's totally useless unless you don't mind fiddling about with rebooting and unplugging/replugging until the keyboard actually works correctly each time you want to use it.

    3. Re:Where is mine by God'sDuck · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you switch to Dvorak, I would recommend keeping an index next to your monitor rather than switching your keylabels -- that way you learn proper touchtyping while switching, which speeds you up and helps your posture. And when a friend wants to type, you can just switch the OS back to Qwerty and let them go.

    4. Re:Where is mine by Usquebaugh · · Score: 1

      I was just going to play around with it a bit, I've used the CyKey before and liked that but the bat is just a backup. If I get serious I'll rip out the electronics and put my own keyboard logic and usb/bluetooth hardware.

      I seriously doubt I'll use it more than a handful of times before selling it on.

    5. Re:Where is mine by thegnu · · Score: 1

      And when a friend wants to type, you can just switch the OS back to Qwerty and let them go.

      I didn't know it was possible to type in Dvorak AND have friends.
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    6. Re:Where is mine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congratulations on switching to Dvorak! I've been a happy full time dvorak user for over two years now. Some thoughts:

      1. Take the opportunity to learn to touch type properly, it's a skill well worth learning. To do this, I used dvorak7min (available on ubuntu with apt-get). Just run through the program once and you'll be up to 20wpm (which is more than enough to get started working).

      2. DO replace your keycaps. Even after you touchtype, it is still very common to place your hand by looking during combinations such as ctrl+w/v/c.

      3. A lot of qwerty-centric keyboard shortcuts suddenly become awkward. This is an expense you pay for a generally 50% improvement in typing ease for normal english.

      4. Every non-english language you learn needs to be remapped to... this includes programming languages and the unix shell. Expect this to be the hardest part. Especially things like 'ls' took me at least a month to completely remap.

      5. Don't attempt to use vim. It won't work. I'll just tell you now, it's time to learn emacs. There is no realistic situation where dvorak and vim go together.

      6. You will quickly realise ISO dvorak isn't optimal, don't give in to the temptation to make your own keyboard layout. It's a lot more pain than you think it might be. I tried this after about a year of dvorak usage, and it was generally completely unproductive.

      7. It took almost a year for me to return to 80wpm. Because I don't do extensive english typing anymore, I will not likely progress past 80wpm in english. I can program considerably faster in python/java than I could in qwerty. I learned lisp in dvorak and have no idea how to program in it using qwerty.

      8. If your wrists start hurting again, get a good keyboard and evaluate your ergonomic setup. Dvorak is only part of the solution.

      Sean

  6. Slashdotted? by Ryukotsusei · · Score: 1

    It seems like the sites already been /.ed for me. And I thought the Optimus keyboard was vaporware... really expensive vaporware.

    1. Re:Slashdotted? by wwwillem · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      A case of /. having a "direct impact". But this site should know how to handle that, given their name. :)

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    2. Re:Slashdotted? by prelelat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't think it's vapor ware in the same sense that Duke Nukem Forever is. From what I understand they were having problems with production and couldn't make enough or something. I do know that they were planning on releasing the keyboard again in December on a limited production run. I'm not sure if that happened. But yes I believe recalling they won a vaporware award. Remember though that winning the vaporware award doesn't mean that a product won't come out it just means it's missed multiple release dates, and hasn't come out yet. So if the December production run did complete successfully it would no longer be vaporware.

    3. Re:Slashdotted? by gblfxt · · Score: 1

      Optimus Maximus keyboard can be pre-ordered and apparently coming out Febuary 20th: http://store.artlebedev.com/computer_add-ons/optimus/

  7. Twiddler? by AltGrendel · · Score: 4, Informative
    If you're going to include the Alpha-Grip, shouldn't the Twiddler?

    I have one and it's great.

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  8. Look ma, one page! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Hey, an article about 10 products that fits on one web page! I didn't think that was possible in this day and age!

  9. Rubber by HappyHead · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's also the Flexible Rubber Keyboard, which is not only easy to roll up and carry around with you, but is also waterproof (for shallow depths, anyways) and resistant to strong acid and alkaline environments. (But disintegrates fast with organic solvents like acetone, potentially leaving nothing but a few strands of copper wiring and gooey sludge.) I've never tried using mine underwater, but at least one of the reviews I've seen of them mentions using them in the bath. They're more resistant to being smashed by heavy-handed typists, and it's impossible to get crap-buildup underneath the keys since it's a sealed silicon unit.

    They also come in a variety of colors and styles. My sister wants the pink one. she needs it considering how much pop my niece has dumped on their old keyboards, and the fact that they both type like they're trying to leave finger-shaped dents in the floor underneath the desk.

    1. Re:Rubber by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't it just be easier to just not allow pop near the computer. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Decrease likelihood of diabetes and save a few dollars on keyboards.

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    2. Re:Rubber by HappyHead · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wouldn't it just be easier to just not allow pop near the computer

      With the computer in the kitchen (so she can make sure that my 12 year old niece isn't doing anything inappropriate on the internet - she's one of those rare people who believe in parental supervision instead of using the computer as a babysitter) most of the pop spills (that my niece admits to anyway) have been while bringing things to the table for dinner. Not allowing pop near the computer would probably be better for both of them health-wise, but it's not likely to happen.

    3. Re:Rubber by techpawn · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There's also the Flexible Rubber Keyboard, which is not only easy to roll up and carry around with you
      Actually, we found a use for them on a factory shop floor because of all the dust and junk that flies in the air kills a normal keyboard in no time flat. We found that the solvent thing was true but it's pretty true with ANY chemical/keyboard combination. They are not the best for gaming because their response time sucks and they have to be on a hard flat surface... Then again, maybe someone has fixed the response time issue because they'd make a wonderful LAN party keyboard because of portability. But the sheer unbreakability and ease to clean them sold us for the factory.
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    4. Re:Rubber by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's just me, but the kitchen sounds like a terrible place for a computer. First, it seems like the place where most families would spend the least amount of time. Also, all the airbourne grease and steam couldn't bode well for most computers. Plus there's bound to be tons of food in the kitchen, waiting to get spilled. Does anybody actually spend that much time cooking that the computer actually should be placed in the kitchen for surveillance reasons?

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    5. Re:Rubber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're kidding, right?

    6. Re:Rubber by compro01 · · Score: 1

      heh. they use those things at my dentist's office for the computers in each exam room.

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    7. Re:Rubber by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

      First, it seems like the place where most families would spend the least amount of time.

      Huh? The kitchen is generally considered (when doing renovations, etc.) to be one of the rooms where people spend most of their waking time in a house. In many modern houses the kitchens are built specifically to serve as large, multipurpose 'family spaces' rather than as small, specialized food-prep areas.

      As I kid, I and my siblings did most of my homework at the kitchen counter while one of my parents made dinner. It was nice; everyone knew what everyone else was working on, it was a good time to talk about your day, you could get help if you needed it, etc. Given that kids probably have to use computers much more extensively now than I did (meaning, more than 'not at all'), it would make sense to put a computer there. The alternative -- sticking it (and the kid who has to use it) somewhere else in the house strikes me as a bit sad, honestly, or at least as a wasted opportunity for family interaction.

      I may just be out of touch with the times, though; I've no idea how many families actually sit down and have dinner with each other these days, or even cook, for that matter.

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    8. Re:Rubber by techpawn · · Score: 1

      Huh? The kitchen is generally considered (when doing renovations, etc.) to be one of the rooms where people spend most of their waking time in a house. In many modern houses the kitchens are built specifically to serve as large, multipurpose 'family spaces' rather than as small, specialized food-prep areas.
      Okay, I don't remember if this was in some remodeling magazine or one of those "when we have the money I want to design this!" things but I remember seeing plans for a computer built into a kitchen island. The monitor under a Plexiglas counter top and the tower, keyboard, and a trackball mouse all would roll out of drawers.

      Kind of the next stage of the hide-a-way computer hutch designs. With wireless connectivity it made the idea a bit more reasonable in my mind at least for a computer in the kitchen. Yeah, you had to look down at it like an old pac-man machine but maybe that's why I liked the idea.
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    9. Re:Rubber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Wouldn't it just be easier to just not allow pop near the computer."

      My pop is dead, you insensitive clod!

    10. Re:Rubber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The hospital I work at (UCLH) uses rubber keyboards to reduce infection risks: these ones http://www.advanced-input.com/medigenic.html

      Seems like a damn good idea to me - they have a timer to remind you to clean them.

    11. Re:Rubber by huge · · Score: 1

      They have my vote as well. Those things are perfect for warehouses, no problems with dust and they can take much more beating than regular keyboards.

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    12. Re:Rubber by Amitz+Sekali · · Score: 1

      I used to have many of those in my work place. Besides being dust and spill resistant, one thing worth to mention is that thing can resist paper staple! Basically for all office that receive many stapled documentation where the user must disattached all those staples manually, the staples won't be thrown into the bottom of keyboard buttons!

      Too bad the keyboard's button is rather difficult to press since you have to hit it rather precisely from top straight to bottom.. The productivity hit of using this difficult to press keyboard is larger than the pain of having to clean up a normal keyboard from dust/spill/paper-staple, that this keyboard is eventually not used anymore.

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  10. Keys! Hundreds of 'em! by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

    My favourite was the Microwriter, invented by the bloke that wrote/produced and directed Zulu

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    1. Re:Keys! Hundreds of 'em! by DrSkwid · · Score: 1

      I have one of those but I've never managed to get it to do anything, I presume it needs some electronic TLC, I've look at it every now and then and say "I should wire those keys to a micro-controller and make it work" but it's another project on the pile.

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  11. Still infinite keys short. by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Funny

    "You rolled out in front of me a keyboard of millions of keys, millions and billions of keys that never end. And that's the truth Max, that they never end. That keyboard is infinite... and if that keyboard is infinite, then on that keyboard there is no music you can play. You're sitting on the wrong bench... That is God's piano." La Leggenda del Pianista sull'Oceano

  12. The SafeType by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Funny
    FTFA:

    This keyboard is meant to put the keyboard in as comfortable of a position as possible. You can move the different sections to different angles, as well as take them apart and put them on your lab.

    ROVER! Come back here! I was typing, darn you!
    1. Re:The SafeType by jimicus · · Score: 2, Funny

      Shouldn't that be:

      RVER! Ce bac ere! ws tg dar !

    2. Re:The SafeType by Stanistani · · Score: 2, Funny

      Your dog responds to typed commands? Awesome!

  13. My keyboard: TypeMatrix dvorak by wikinerd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I use TypeMatrix keyboards with Dvorak skins and I love them! I also have Plum keyboards but I don't really like them much. I also have laser projection virtual keyboards (their error rate isn't low though). From the article I liked the wearable keyboard, though. I will probably buy it, because I think it will be useful for as I use laptops while standing or walking. I have also seen AlphaGrip at shops and they are also interesting. Another company with interesting products is Maltron. Data hands look nice too. However, I have found my TypeMatrix a very good choice and I like it for its small size and a design which is comfortable while maintaining compatibility with Qwerty. This is important for me as I know to type fast in Dvorak only in English. For other languages I am still stuck with Qwerty for fast typing as I didn't bother to learn Dvorak for non-English languages. TypeMatrix has built-in Qwerty and Dvorak modes so I don't need any changes in software to make it switch between the two depending on which language I type.

    1. Re:My keyboard: TypeMatrix dvorak by holomorph · · Score: 1

      I have several TypeMatrix keyboards (2020's) and they're great. There are just a few tweaks I would make which would bring them close to my "ideal" keyboard:

          1. I'd turn the left spacebar key into a shift button so I don't have to reach w/ my pinky for shift.

          2. I'd add two of those little eraser nub things next to each index finger - one which would control the mouse (as they normally do on the laptops on which I've seen them), and the other would operate the arrow keys.

          3. I would like a full sized one w/ its own number pad and page-up/page-down keys etc, so that I don't have to use the function key just to access those. After all, it's not like I'm using a laptop, I should be able to benefit from having a full size keyboard with all the keys.

          4. A programmer pad like my touchstream has would be a bonus.

      I wish there were more keyboards out there w/ straight rows instead of the retarded keys offset so the hammer arms don't get stuck relic from the typwriter feature that most keyboards exhibit today.

  14. did they include the senseboard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the senseboard has to the weirdest frigging thing I've ever heard of...

  15. No more Optimus stories, please! by Kagura · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Please stop showing the Optimus Keyboard on Slashdot. It is almost complete vaporware. They have continually reduced the number of keys they will use OLEDs on, and they have even switched from "planning" to use color OLEDs to using black and white OLEDs. They have continually pushed back their preorder and production dates. I recently read a story that summed up all their setbacks and delays, and made it clear that it's vaporware.

    I can't find the link to that article, so since I don't have any sources at the moment be sure to take this with a grain of salt.

    1. Re:No more Optimus stories, please! by techpawn · · Score: 1

      Yeah! No more Optimus stories! More Megatron stories... Wait...

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    2. Re:No more Optimus stories, please! by crabbz · · Score: 3, Informative

      ars played with the full keyboard recently, complete with full color keys. seems like it is real, but freakin' expensive.

    3. Re:No more Optimus stories, please! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention the price is in the multiple THOUSANDS of dollars

  16. my personal stempunk favourite.. by greyworld · · Score: 2, Interesting
    1. Re:my personal stempunk favourite.. by IwarkChocobos · · Score: 1

      That is so damn cool. I want one!

  17. Apple Adjustable Keyboard by binaryspiral · · Score: 3, Informative

    This one should have made the list... it was one of the first adjustable ergonomic keyboards to come from a computer manufacturer. It also came with a disclaimer about RSI that was almost as heavy as the keyboard itself.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Adjustable_Keyboard

    What the wikipedia article's photo fails to show you are the giant wrist rests that are attached to the main keyboard and number keyboard. A small ADB cable attached the external number keyboard to the main qwerty board and could be arranged on either side. It also provided audio controls and a full compliment of F keys.

    I miss that keyboard... I had one and enjoyed it up until the point I no longer could use an ADB keyboard.

    1. Re:Apple Adjustable Keyboard by dissy · · Score: 1

      I've used (and still have) one of these keyboards. It lives teathered to an old Mac lcIII.
      A long while ago I found an ADB->USB adaptor, for using it on newer systems, which runs about $40 from http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imate

      Unfortunatly due to the nature of ADB, the response time will be quite low, and although there may have been some improvements in the driver software since then, at the time it was very hard to map all of the keys correctly to use with windows.

    2. Re:Apple Adjustable Keyboard by binaryspiral · · Score: 1


      Unfortunatly due to the nature of ADB, the response time will be quite low, and although there may have been some improvements in the driver software since then, at the time it was very hard to map all of the keys correctly to use with windows.


      You had me excited until you mentioned response time. So much for fragging UT players with my AAK. :(

  18. Kinesis Contour by danberlyoung · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can't forget about Kinesis's Contour. The weirdest yet most comfortable keyboard I've ever used. (Looked weird enough that MIB used it as Zed's keyboard at the office.) Saved me from carpel tunnel surgery about 5 years ago and I"m pain free to this day. http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/contoured.htm A little pricy ($300) but much cheaper than surgery.

    1. Re:Kinesis Contour by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would buy it if it had a numeric keypad in the empty space in the middle.

    2. Re:Kinesis Contour by God'sDuck · · Score: 1

      elmer's glue is your friend.

  19. France by Frekko · · Score: 1
    Go to France for the strangest keyboard. They have switched at least six letters on the keyboard.

    The numbers are special the special symbols by default and you have to press shift to get the numbers or use caps lock.
    In addition to that . has switched with : and , has switched with ;.
    God knows why they went for this design...

    1. Re:France by Nimey · · Score: 1

      God knows why they went for this design... Because they're French.
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    2. Re:France by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For some reason, just about every language is associated with a different keyboard: the Swedes use a Swedish keyboard, the Germans use a German keyboard, the Brazilians use a Portugues keyboard etc. Most of them are similar to American QWERTY, but the number of keys in identical places varies. Usually all punctuation is switched around, there are a few extra letters, and some of the QWERTY letters are switched around.

    3. Re:France by mclatte · · Score: 1

      Consider the frog pad, http://www.frogpad.com/.

    4. Re:France by bersl2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A Frogpad strapped to the underside of the arm together with a Smartphone/PDA has always sounded to me like an excellent combo, since it's the only platform (not counting an on-screen keyboard, which I have always disliked) that can be operated with one free hand while standing.

      Anybody ever tried this?

    5. Re:France by mikael_j · · Score: 1

      Aah, the amazing AZERTY keyboard layout, it's a bit wonky but when you've been there for a couple of months QWERTY ends up feeling odd. It's really not that different from QWERTY, it just takes some getting used to.

      /Mikael

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    6. Re:France by 2short · · Score: 1

      You think their keyboards a weird? You should hear them talk! Those wacky French have a different word for, like, everything!

  20. keyboards, shmeyboards by Escogido · · Score: 1
    1. Re:keyboards, shmeyboards by file+terminator · · Score: 1

      Bah! Everyone knows that it takes a keyboard that shines in the dark to be FTW-worthy.

  21. Which letter do you like least? by Alzheimers · · Score: 3, Funny

    The DX1 Input System includes a Pad, a removable Tray, 25 numbered Keys with a storage tray, preprinted labels, an installation CD and a Quick Start Guide.

    So with only 25 keys, which of the 26 letters of the alphabet do you like least? You could go Roman and use "V" for "U"'s, or drop F and use "PH" instead.

    Or, you can be really revolutionary and go with the Decabet, which will even leave you enough keys for all 0-9 numerals and some punctuation too!

    1. Re:Which letter do you like least? by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      You can order a pack with an extra 25 keys for the DX1, which will allow you to avoid the indignity of dropping the useless letter "Z" from the alphabet (though it deserves it).

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    2. Re:Which letter do you like least? by framauro13 · · Score: 1

      Zebras would disagree. So would Zoologists. And Zygots maybe.

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    3. Re:Which letter do you like least? by Michael+O-P · · Score: 3, Funny

      My daughter Zoë would be pissed.

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    4. Re:Which letter do you like least? by ed.mps · · Score: 1

      certainly, the Zergs would be.

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    5. Re:Which letter do you like least? by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1

      RERG RUSH!!!

    6. Re:Which letter do you like least? by ashmon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not to mention xenophobes.

      Errrr, wait...

    7. Re:Which letter do you like least? by niktemadur · · Score: 1

      My daughter Zoë would be pissed.

      So would Microsoft.

      David Bowie saw this coming, and changed his son's name from Zowie to Joey.
      Maybe we'll soon see the long-awaited Director's Final Cut of his classic album, Jiggy Stardust.

      It's a short list of names in the english language that begin with the letter Z: Zack, Zeke, Zippy, Zooey... there's gotta be a few more, but I can't recall any others.

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    8. Re:Which letter do you like least? by LoztInSpace · · Score: 1

      I'd get rid of the semicolon; nobody uses those anyway.
      (From some Dilbert strip - can't find the link)

  22. The Evolution keyboard was awesome... by otis+wildflower · · Score: 1

    ... I had one bolted to an Aeron, and for the first 6 months it was AWESOME, except for the touchpad mouse. Eventually it started to fall apart. But for awhile there it was the l33test ch33z EVAR.

    Now, I'd like a wooden keyboard with no characters on it at all, just little nubs on the F and J keys.

    1. Re:The Evolution keyboard was awesome... by 5pp000 · · Score: 1

      Yes, too bad the article doesn't show the Evolution chair-mount, which was the coolest. I have two of them, one >7 years old -- they seem quite sturdy to me. I think if they could have gotten the price down a little, they could have sold 10 times as many.

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    2. Re:The Evolution keyboard was awesome... by 5pp000 · · Score: 1

      Oh, I should have added, I hate the built-in trackpad (the buttons are stiff with too little travel, and you can't turn off tap-to-click, which I've always hated). So what I did was use double-sided foam tape to mount a Logitech Marble Mouse (which, despite the name, is a trackball) right on top of the trackpad. It fits great. Two stacks of three adhesive rubber bumpers (from any hardware store) support the other end, so it doesn't press on the space bar.

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    3. Re:The Evolution keyboard was awesome... by otis+wildflower · · Score: 1

      The keyboard was reasonably sturdy (though it took some damage just from smacking against the edges of tables from time to time) but the real problem was the mount to the Aeron armrest, after awhile it would start to sag and one side actually stripped out the screws and fell off at one point.

      I almost think that having the keyboards actually drop off the sides and losing the armrests entirely would have been a better way to go.. A better idea would have been to get a hefty VESA arm that's like 8 feet long and have it suspended over the chair appropriately, not even bothering with a desk, but back in the day I just had the 24" CRT...

    4. Re:The Evolution keyboard was awesome... by 5pp000 · · Score: 1

      How did you mount it to the Aeron? Doesn't the Aeron use nonstandard armrest mounts? On a chair that uses the standard armrest mounts, the Evolution, along with the custom armrest pads it comes with, bolts on in place of the original armrest pads. In this arrangement, the failure mode you describe is not an issue.

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    5. Re:The Evolution keyboard was awesome... by otis+wildflower · · Score: 1

      IIRC you got a longer bolt and you had to unscrew the armrest bolt, put the mount under the armrest, then screw in the longer bolt to fasten them together. I don't think there was a custom armrest replacement available for the Aeron, there may well have been (this is 1999-2000 timeframe) but I never got it.

  23. Misleading article by dsmitchell1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The article claims that the keyboards are or will soon be on the market. However, the last keyboard is made by a now-defunct company called Fingerworks. The article claims that the keyboard is available on the Internet for $350, but I would be amazed if you could find one for under $600. How many other keyboards in the list are no longer available?

    1. Re:Misleading article by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1

      How many other keyboards in the list are no longer available?

      Given that the "Wearable Keyboard" looks as though it's a cross between the NES Power Glove (1989) and the original Commodore PET keyboard (1977), I would HOPE that it's not being sold as a contemporary device in 2008...

  24. As time goes on by DeeQ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People will keep on trying to reinvent the wheel.

    1. Re:As time goes on by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 1

      Bingo. They need to stop with this keyboard bullshit and get on with developing that Simlink. According to my Shadowrun time line we should be well under way to being there.

      Ahhh, downloading full sim porn right to the brain.

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    2. Re:As time goes on by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If no one ever reinvented the wheel, we'd still be rolling around on stones.

    3. Re:As time goes on by DeeQ · · Score: 1

      At least then we would be using natural resources :)

  25. I've tried most of these... by kahei · · Score: 2, Informative



    I've tried most of the keyboards shown (I like input devices). I'd rate them as follows, where '10' is a regular keyboard.

    Combimouse -- 0/10. This is the one I haven't tried, but I simply don't see how it can possibly work.
    Evolution -- 11/10. This was intended to be used in conjunction with an entire ergonomic environment. It's like a regular keyboard but with touchpads. Yay.
    Wearable -- 1/10. This is nothing like as good as a chording keyboard such as the Twiddler.
    Optimus Maximus -- 12/10. I've only ever used it very briefly and since it's exactly like having a regular keyboard (except that you can put pictures on the function keys) I'd say it has mainly coolness value. But a *lot* of coolness value.
    Virtual Keyboard -- 3/10. Lack of tactile feedback renders this horrible to use.
    SafeType -- 6/10. This is one of the many easy-to-make, hard-to-use ergonomic keyboards that came out around the time RSI got to be big news. It's a pain. I think it used to come with little mirrors so you could see what you were doing.
    Tidy Tippist -- 1/10. I've never seen this before but *look* at it.
    AlphaGrip -- 9/10. It's nice to use, but there are two problems; first, it's fussier and slower than the Twiddler. Second, the keys can't be remapped or assigned macros at all.
    ElekTex -- 3/10. No tactile feedback, and easy to rumple it up inadvertently.
    TouchStream -- 16/10. This is fascinating to use. As a keyboard, it sucks because you can't tell what key you pressed (if any). However, the gesture system is fascinating, intuitive, and extendable. The small version of the TouchStream, used in conjunction with a regulare keyboard, is fun; but if you do that you can't type and gesture in the same place which takes away most of the fluidity of the full sized TouchStream.

    I'd say people have had a lot of trouble coming up with designs that really improve on the IBM-style keyboard. The Kinesis Advantage I'm using is the only unusual keyboard I've ever had that I thought it was worth switching to, and it must be about 12 years old by now; since then almost every 'advance' has involved either not having keys (no tactile feedback, impossible to know where your hands are and whether you pressed a key) or else cutting a keyboard up and bolting junk to it (a la Evolution and Combimouse).

    The Kinesis Advantage is remappable, programmable, pedal-compatible for those who just have to be like that, it saves my fingers a few miles of movement a day and it lets me use the cursor keys and backspace without having to drag my whole hand off the home row and over to some other part of the keyboard. But I note that the Evolution (also from Kinesis) outsells the Advantage, because it's got gadgets and rounded edges and looks space-agey when bolted to your executive chair. That's the trouble with keyboards as a market -- since flat keyboards are pretty much good enough, any extra money that gets spent tends to go on bells and whistles rather than on advancing the basic design.

    The Kinesis Advantage is the king of keyboards, by the way.

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    1. Re:I've tried most of these... by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 1

      The laser keyboard isn't meant to replace your computer keyboard, thus comparing it to a normal keyboard is beyond the point.

      It's a Bluetooth, battery powered device that allows you use a keyboard to enter data into your PDA (or phone I suppose). Relevant comparisons would be folding keyboards, but then you would need to judge on portability and convenience.

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    2. Re:I've tried most of these... by 26199 · · Score: 1

      I completely agree about the TouchStream being a wonderful device.

      It's so configurable that you can chuck out the standard keyboard layout and build your own; I've been using a TouchStream with my own system for nearly three years now. As an example of what's possible, I use two-finger combinations for punctuation and four-finger chords for modifier keys ... with the result that I never have to reach more than one key width from the home keys.

      And in fact I've moved the rows closer together, so the maximum I have to move a finger is about three millimetres. One handy consequence is that the 'which key am I hitting' problem is more or less solved, since I'm always on the home keys. (Which have slight raised dimples, for those who haven't used one).

      I really hope someone comes up with something as good as the TouchStream before mine start failing.

    3. Re:I've tried most of these... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      |The Kinesis Advantage is the king of keyboards, by the way.

      This reminds me of the keyboard in the movie "Man in Black."

  26. DataHand by Agenor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have to grant you that the DX1 is pretty neat, however my personal favorite is the DataHand. The idea is to place each finger in a little well with buttons in four directions and one at the bottom so your fingers never move more than a half inch in any direction. Using the mouse is handled by switching modes which then enables each index finger to control the mouse, one finger controls slow movement and the other fast movement. One of my coworkers picked it up to help deal with his Carpal Tunnel and swears by it. I would pick one up to if they weren't so expensive.

    They also sell a chair mounted version.

    1. Re:DataHand by dugjohnson · · Score: 1

      I remember seeing this at a ComDex YEARS ago. Always thought it would be pretty cool, but with a serious learning curve. And since I haven't even bothered to learn the Dvorak layout, I can see why they are no more.

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    2. Re:DataHand by DieNadel · · Score: 1

      I do own a DataHand Pro-II keyboard (8 years now) and I can tell you it's worth every penny (and that's a lot to put together :-)) When I started looking for a solution I was just a few months away from having a painful surgery for my carpal tunnel problem. Now I hardly feel any discomfort even after long typing sessions (granted that I stretch a lot too).

      The keyboard sits very comfortably on my lap, allowing my elbows and shoulders to relax, and I can kinda twist it so that it will fit better to my natural wrist disposition. After acquiring some experience with it (it comes with tutorials and exercises), I was able to type really fast -- not as fast as with a regular keyboard, but certainly with less typos, since it does not require you to move your hands to find the keys, which eliminates typos caused by incorrectly positioning the hands.

      The only downside is the mouse. It's noticeably slower, even after so many years of daily usage, and I'll never be able to draw a close-to-perfect circle. It's close to impossible to use this keyboard to perform less-than-complicated drawings, let alone use a CAD.

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    3. Re:DataHand by benow · · Score: 1

      I've used a datahand for a while, and they're great. Even better on a good chair. Expensive, but worth every penny... and the keyboard can be used across multiple computers. The learning curve is a bit steep, but after a week or two it's quite usable. A downside is that you'll never want to work in an office without one. The personal's are as good as the pro's unless you specifically need macros (which you probably don't). They're only ps2, but datahand sell a usb converter that works well. Good stuff... now if only they'd do a wireless version, already.

    4. Re:DataHand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The datahand is nice, just bought one. First, they're expensive. Second, I had to wait for a week since they couldn't ship it. However, it didn't work. After much hassle on the phone, buying a different over priced PS/2 adapter they took it back. The next one, yup. Broken too. After trying to get it to work, I gave up. So I sent it back. Once it got back, they charged me a restocking fee, even though the unit was broken, and didn't refund the difference between the two PS/2 units.

      If the thing worked, it'd be great: very comfortable, very cool looking. But, they sent two broken units, the second one passed both the tech support inspecting it and their engineer.

  27. Missed a lot of stuff out by jimicus · · Score: 2, Informative

    They also missed the Goldtouch adjustable keyboard:

    http://www.keyovation.com/pc-65-2-goldtouch-ergonomic-adjustable-keyboard-white.aspx

    Been happily using one since 2004 and it's the best investment ever. For some pretty horrible time I thought I was going to have to leave IT in search of some other profession - not particularly comforting as I'd only graduated two years earlier.

    It's expensive, but a lot cheaper than learning a new job - particularly when the NHS's attitude was "Oh, your wrists hurt. That's a shame. Spend the rest of your life taking ibuprofen and give us a shout if you develop a stomach ulcer."

    1. Re:Missed a lot of stuff out by cruff · · Score: 1

      I second the Goldtouch. I've been using one for a couple of years now at work. I like that it is easy to adjust when needed.

  28. Is this an invite to sell my Dvorak touchstream LP by ToadMan8 · · Score: 1

    Maybe slashdot will run an article on the top 10 used cars and I could sell that too ;)

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  29. How old is this article?!? by shabble · · Score: 1
    From TFA:

    The TouchStream is both a mouse and keyboard in one. The keyboard splits in half to try to provide extra comfort. The keys are all flat, which can make them feel strange to type on. It retails on the internet for about $350.

    The Touchstream keyboards went out of production over a year ago. I had two of these for ages and loved them, then when both eventually 'wore out' I tried to get another - http://www.fingerworks.com/ :

    FingerWorks has ceased operations as a business.
    [...]
      FingerWorks products are no longer available for resale, and no further updates to software drivers will be developed.
    1. Re:How old is this article?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple bought the company along with the patents. Just so people can have a non spinning touch wheel on an ipod and greased up finger smears on their iphone.
      I want to buy that keyboar - they wont sell me one.

  30. Much stranger keyboards by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

    I'll post a follow-up from work, once I can check exactly what it's called (and maybe find a link), but maybe someone can beat me to it...

    It's a keyboard which places the keys surrounding your fingers. Each finger will have a home-row key under it, and then a vertical key placed directly to the left, right, forward, and back.

    I can't see myself actually learning it, but it's got to be the most ergonomic keyboard that still lets you type as fast as a standard 108-key. The way he describes it, when you start moving your finger towards the key you want to hit, you've probably already hit it.

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    1. Re:Much stranger keyboards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you mean the 'Datahand'

    2. Re:Much stranger keyboards by DieNadel · · Score: 1

      As I said somewhere else in this thread, I do own a DataHand. You cannot type as fast as with a regular keyboard, but since you are less error prone (not moving your hands around helps a lot in hitting the right key), the speed of the DataHand is comparable to that of a regular keyboard.

      The only thing that's really slow when compared to its counterpart is the mouse. You can't really draw with it and it moves without much precision (or too slow).

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  31. See also: 10 worst keyboards by Storlek · · Score: 1

    Not five days ago we had an article on the 10 worst keyboards of all time. I'm beginning to think CmdrTaco has an affinity for lists of ten keyboards.

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  32. I get weirder keyboards in my breakfast cereal by J.R.+Random · · Score: 1

    I'm typing this with one of the ultimate weird keyboards.

    1. Re:I get weirder keyboards in my breakfast cereal by Usquebaugh · · Score: 1

      Yes but your glasses have just gone all opaque.

  33. How to make a prototype keyboard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, if you have an idea to make your own keyboard and mouse, how do you go about making them?

    1. Re:How to make a prototype keyboard? by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, first, you need to mine some copper ore...

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  34. AlphaGrip by confused_demon · · Score: 1

    I was part of the initial preorder program for the Alpha Grip. I wanted one because of a repetitive stress issue, but it turned out to be worse for my condition than a normal keyboard. I still have it, and wish I could use it.

  35. GP is a troll by pimpimpim · · Score: 1
    Indeed, the keyboard is real, just very expensive.

    Furthermore it is hardly a long-time vaporware product, considering the fact that the before last year there were no displays available on the market that could do what they wanted for the optimus. On just two years they created a functional keyboard, and have been completely open in the development process, even if that would inform competition how far they were, I would dare any other company to do the same.

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    1. Re:GP is a troll by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1

      considering the fact that the before last year there were no displays available on the market that could do what they wanted for the optimus.

      Maybe that's because they wanted too much. The concept of tiny displays on each key is a brilliant and fairly obvious application, but did they NEED to use 48x48 RGB OLEDs for the first pass? A bunch of 8x8 monochrome LCDs could more easily have been used to demonstrate the keyboard's potential, and with far lower development and materials costs.

      But then, Art Lebedev & co. are a design studio, not a hardware manufacturer. It's not in their nature to seek compromise instead of shooting for the moon.

    2. Re:GP is a troll by Trogre · · Score: 1

      You mean like Apple? :)

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  36. Kinesis, not weird enough? by Average · · Score: 1

    A couple of other people mentioned it... the best keyboard design (for me) is the Kinesis contoured (bowl-shaped) keyboard.

    Of course, I double the weirdness by typing Dvorak on mine. What's really weird, though, is the mental programming. I simply cannot type QWERTY on a Kinesis. I can, with a little zenning-out, type in Dvorak on a flat or laptop keyboard, though I type in QWERTY just fine on those.

    The only problem with the Kinesis is the little rubber keys for F1-F12 and Escape. I really hated the Escape, so I programmed it to be swapped with the CapsLock key (which I never use, anyway).

    1. Re:Kinesis, not weird enough? by hibiki_r · · Score: 1

      It'd be a much better keyboard if it was broken in two parts, to be adjusted at will. The contour expects you to type with your arms parallel to each other, and doesn't account for different shoulder sizes. Say goodbye to carpal tunnel syndrome, say hello to upper back pain!

  37. Datahand by wonkavader · · Score: 1
    How can a list of odd keyboards not include the Datahand? Yes, it's been out for a while (years, actually) but all but one of these keyboards attempts to be very close to Bob-standard keyboards, whereas the Datahand is really very different -- Still qwerty, but not the same sort of finger-motions at all.

    I don't think they sell many of these things, and they cost too much, but people with RSIs swear by them.

    Here's their webpage.

  38. How about the Macbooks? by MobyDisk · · Score: 1

    Not all "strange" computer keyboards need to be innovative technologies.

    The MacBook Pro keyboard is weird enough to qualify. Backspace is called delete, there's two enter keys, and no delete key. Less odd, but still strange, are the eject button, missing print screen, and swapped "apple/windows" and alt keys. And this isn't an anti-mac rant or anything (since I am typing on my Macbook Pro now) but this keyboard is neither Macintosh "standard" or Windows "standard" - It's just odd.

    1. Re:How about the Macbooks? by IwarkChocobos · · Score: 1

      I agree that it's pretty non standard, but I like the keyboard on my MBP. I don't get the two enter buttons, but delete is actually on here (fn+delete). My old laptop's keyboard (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=toshiba+a-10+keyboard&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2) was great, I enjoyed the function buttons on the side, but I have grown to enjoy my MBP more than that one. I actually enjoy laptop keyboards a bit better than many desktop ones.

  39. !France but French by splutty · · Score: 1

    To put it very simply: The French have french as a language. In comparison to english it contains different amounts of different letters.

    Now. If you know how these keyboard configurations originally came into being (remember typewriters?), then it's quite normal for a different language to have a different layout of keys.

    The layout was meant to be such that 2 letters often being used in conjunction with each other are spaced apart on the keyboard, thus avoiding the problem of getting your typewriter hammers stuck on each other when typing real fast. The french have the AZERTY keyboard, the english QWERTY, exactly for this reason. And since those were pretty much taken over for computer keyboards (where it would actually be *beneficial* to have often used letter combination as close to each other as possible), we're now stuck with all sorts of weird combinations.

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    1. Re:!France but French by Ciggy · · Score: 1

      It was more than just wide spacing of the letters; that in itself is not enough to prevent jamming as a fast typist could send letters from either side fast enough to still jam. The innovation with the QWERTY layout was to deliberately mis-allocate letters between the hands - specifically for the English QWERTY layout, there is more work for the left hand; possibly assuming that most typists are right handed and therefore suffer slight dexterity loss in the left. Also, I think, the sequences that are most likely to jam are made deliberately difficult in terms of finger dexterity - eg, a common ending in English '-ed' is done by one finger (when touch typing).

      With reference to foreign kezboards, when I was emailing mz fiancee last year, she was using a Swiss-French kezboard that used the same lazout as English except that Z and Y were swapped. Everz daz I received an email from her, it was an interesting read - especiallz as the swap added a kind of French accent to her message.

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  40. WEHT the dish-shaped keybord? by British · · Score: 1

    I remember on an episode of SeaQuest DSV these hacker kids had a keyboard that can only be described as having been punctured inward. Imagine 2 bowls next to each other, and the keys are on the bottom surface. Supposedly this was more ergonomic, but I can't see how. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Naturally, it wasn't listed in TFA.

    1. Re:WEHT the dish-shaped keybord? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People keep mentioning them, something like Kinesis...

  41. Thanks but no thanks by Butterspoon · · Score: 1

    Jesus! These keyboards give me a headache just looking at them! I'll stick with my common-or-garden 105-key job, thankyouverymuch.

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  42. TouchStream by Tom · · Score: 1

    TFA doesn't do the TouchStream justice. It's essentially the predecessor to multi-touch. In fact, TouchStream was acquired by Apple quite a while ago...

    The TouchStream wasn't just a "keyboard plus mouse". It didn't have mouse buttons, instead recognizing up to 3 mouse buttons by tapping (different number of fingers). It could also do mouse-gestures, again with multiple fingers.

    Very nifty device. Only disadvantage: If you can't touch-type, it's hard to use.

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    1. Re:TouchStream by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      Do you know of a company or product similar to the Touchstream but is JUST a large trackpad?

      I love my MacBookPro trackpad but at work I can't stand not being able to stroll, move, double click etc. I'd hate to buy a touchstream just for this feature but I'd love to have a 4x4 'trackpad' that I could plug into my workstation at work and use.

    2. Re:TouchStream by 26199 · · Score: 1

      Fingerworks made one, it's called the iGesture NumPad and it's basically half a TouchStream:

      http://www.fingerworks.com/igesture_numpad.html

      Sadly as with the TouchStream the only way to get these now is second hand.

  43. How could they have passed this one up? by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    From Acer

    And they SOLD these, man. Yeah!


    Acer! Harrr....!

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  44. A strange (but clever) 'saddle-bag keyboard' ... by foobsr · · Score: 1

    ... from a guy who fitted two keyboards to make A $14 "ergo" keyboard from surplus parts.

    Quote from his site (including pictures of the process): "Part of my symptoms were pains in my elbows from being constantly bent, and pains in my wrists from being held rotated, in the plane of the keyboard. I wanted a keyboard which allowed my wrists and arms to be in their relaxed positions, i.e. at my sides. What I imagined was, basically, a saddle-bag keyboard."

    CC.

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  45. Top 10 list of lists by jbeaupre · · Score: 1

    I'm waiting for the 10 ten list of keyboard lists.

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  46. I, for one... by Cervantes · · Score: 1

    I, for one, would just like to thank the poster and the article author for making TFA one nice, shiny page, instead of 10 separate pages filled with ads, crap, and only a few lines of real text. I hope this is a trend that continues.

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  47. They forgot this one by qazwart · · Score: 1

    http://www.matias.ca/halfkeyboard/

    This suppose to allow for one hand typing. If you need a letter that's on the other side of the keyboard, hold down the space key and press the corresponding finger placement. For example /Space-Q/ for "P" and /Space-G/ for "H".

  48. My strange request is a keyboard/touchpad by ortholattice · · Score: 1
    ..combo with the left/right buttons above the touchpad, just below the space bar. That way I can move the cursor with one thumb and click with the other, without my fingers ever leaving the keyboard.

    Instead, virtually all laptops with touchpads have the mouse buttons below the touchpad, making it very awkward and error prone (like accidentally hitting the touchpad itself) if I try to stretch my thumb down to press them, unless my hand leaves the keyboard thus interrupting my flow.

    Does anyone know the justification for mouse buttons under the touchpad? I cannot think of any benefit at all. Even a regular mouse (that the touchpad is presumably imitating) usually has the buttons near the top.

    My favorite computer years ago (early 90s) was a Mac Powerbook with the mouse switch above the trackball and just below the space bar. I worked very efficiently with that arrangement, mixing typing and mouse movements seamlessly, and miss it. (Unfortunately I no longer have a Mac laptop and don't know how today's touchpads are arranged. Educate me.)

    It does seem that the Thinkpad with pointing stick/touchpad combo has a second set of mouse buttons under the space bar, looking at photos. Something to consider for my next laptop purchase. But they still have a second set of mouse buttons below the touchpad - why? It seems a waste.

    1. Re:My strange request is a keyboard/touchpad by ballwall · · Score: 1

      You want this.

      A trackpoint is infinitely better than a touch pad (but it still has one if you want it). I wish they made a full size keyboard (with numkeys) with this style of keys and mouse input, but you can always add a 10 key to the right of it via usb.

    2. Re:My strange request is a keyboard/touchpad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Drag" I'd assume. You can't punch a button with your index finger while dragging it across a touchpad, so the buttons have to be convenient for other fingers. The thumb I guess was the choice.

    3. Re:My strange request is a keyboard/touchpad by nitio · · Score: 1

      I have a laptop that I use in work that has both Touchpad and ClitorisMouseTM (whatever the real name of this is) and it has the buttons for the touchpad below the touchpad itself and between the touchpad and the spacebar there are the two buttons for the clitoris one. So it could be used... Of course, touching the clitoris is WAY better (pun intended).

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    4. Re:My strange request is a keyboard/touchpad by blitzkrieg3 · · Score: 1

      I actually use the thinkpad much in the manner that you describe. Whenever I scroll on my thinkpad, I use my thumb and the touchpad. I just tried using the right thumb to move and the left thumb to click, and I must say that it would take some getting used to, but it works. I have to say though when using the touchpad, I prefer using my index finger, in which case it's a lot easier having the buttons underneath so that I can use my right thumb to click.

  49. Ok, Ok... by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    The RIGHT URL:

    http://www.dansdata.com/fkeyboard.htm

    slashes. sheesh.

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  50. Useless by tlmii · · Score: 2, Funny

    A useless top 10 list... I must be on digg.com

  51. My thoughts by Daimanta · · Score: 1

    The first one:

    Awefully bulky

    The second one:

    This will take some getting used to

    The third one:

    Lol, nintendo powerglove

    The fourth one:

    Shiny but very expensive

    The fifth one:

    I don't like the fact that there is no feedback. I NEED my feedback!

    The sixth one:

    It looks like something Playmobil makes

    The seventh one:

    Something for grandma perhaps?

    The eight one:

    You have GOT to be kidding me

    The ninth one:

    Again, no feedback

    The tenth one:

    Do NOT combine a keyboard and a mouse

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  52. More keyboards by lasarux · · Score: 1

    DataHand: http://www.datahand.com/
    Microwriter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwriter (Texas Instrument - 1980) - five keys PDA

  53. Apple Extended KB by IwarkChocobos · · Score: 1

    One of my favorite keyboards to use, and I still use one:Apple Extended Keyboard. It's huge, loud, and quite tough. Mine is from 1991 and still works fine:) I would say this is up there with the IBM M Keyboard. They don't make them this tough anymore.

  54. Fabric Keyboard wanted by isdale · · Score: 1

    The lace keyboard is interesting. For a long while I was working on various wearable projects and always thought it would be great to have a one-handed keyboard (ala Twiddler) built into a garment - say the sleeve or pant leg. there might be some issues avoiding spurious keypresses when you bump into things (eg. dive into a foxhole) but it the keyboard would always be readily available, and hard to misplace.

    You could put it into the pocket too, but you would get a lot of strange looks when you are typing.

    I mentioned the idea a number of times to people at MIT, and other places doing fabric switches, but havent seen one yet.

    If someone ever builds one of these, drop me an email!

  55. I couldn't find this, but... by evilklown · · Score: 1

    There was a girl that I went to high school with that only had one hand. She had some kind of one-handed keyboard that had a thumb-operated toggle to switch between the keyboard's right side, left side, and numberpad. The funny thing about this: she was one of the fastest typists in our school at the time (around 70 WPM).

    1. Re:I couldn't find this, but... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      You don't need a special keyboard to type one-handed; there's a better solution: The Dvorak one-handed keyboard layout. Just remap a standard keyboard with the appropriate layout (left and right versions available).

  56. Anyone know where I can get by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a "natural" keyboard which has laptop-style keys and all the insert/page up/arrow/numpad keys on the right hand side (or not present at all if no other alternative)? I'm looking for something that will allow me to keep my mouse very close to me while allowing me to keep my hands centered with my monitor and while holding my wrists in a natural position (elbows bent).

  57. frogpad by cerelib · · Score: 1

    I think frogpad (http://www.frogpad.com) should be on this list. It is weird, but interesting.

  58. Not really; it's pretty fast. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

    I'm using a Griffin iMate right now, and I don't think the response is in any way noticeably slower than a typical USB keyboard. I type about 70-90WPM and have never had lag problems. I'm not a heavy FPSer, but I've played my share of Quake and UT with it, and can't really fault it (I am quite dreadful at virtually all games, but that's not really my equipment's problem).

    I use the iMate with an Apple Extended Keyboard II (which itself has been in daily use since 1994 or so); I got the iMate in 2001 or thereabouts when the ADB-USB adapter I was using previously -- a Keyspan? -- refused to work with OS X and the manufacturer decided not to update it.

    The only problem I've had with the AEKII/iMate combo has started in the last week or so, and it's the random inserting of characters into the keystream when I'm typing rapidly. I can't figure out if it's the keyboard, cable, or iMate that's on the fritz.

    But at any rate, there is nothing inherent in ADB that means the response time will be low. It's possible for an ADB controller to actually poll a connected device at a greater rate than typical PS/2 keyboards (17ms, IIRC). Griffin makes a optional control panel that lets you play with the poll rate, so you can crank it up to whatever the device you're using supports; I think it will go down to 10ms. Of course you're potentially stacking it onto the USB bus' latency, but we're talking about a handful of milliseconds here. I don't think that's "quite low" response time.

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  59. Anyone fancy a Twiddler? by BrianRaker · · Score: 1

    http://www.handykey.com/

    I'm surprised this was not mentioned, yet a full-qwerty layout on-wrist keyboard was.

    And the Twiddler has a TrackPoint, which is IMHO better than a trackball in a mobileesque application (a hit on the game pad chording 'keyboard').

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  60. SNL? by thegnu · · Score: 1

    Can anyone explain why Decabet redirects to SNL on Wikipedia? (how fucking weird would that sentence sound to someone in 1908?)

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  61. I'll stick with my Model M, thanks... by Joce640k · · Score: 1

    Or rather, the latest space-saver Model M with Windows keys and USB connector....

    http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/en104bl.html

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    1. Re:I'll stick with my Model M, thanks... by ncc74656 · · Score: 1

      Or rather, the latest space-saver Model M with Windows keys and USB connector....

      http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/en104bl.html

      FTW! Mine's supposed to get here Thursday. My work machines have Model Ms (one IBM, one Lexmark) plugged in; the new one's for home use.

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  62. FingerWorks TouchStream LP out of business by Danny+Rathjens · · Score: 1

    The TouchStream is both a mouse and keyboard in one. The keyboard splits in half to try to provide extra comfort. The keys are all flat, which can make them feel strange to type on. It retails on the internet for about $350.
    They don't retail anymore. Fingerworks went out of business a couple years ago. (The creators apparently got hired by apple to make the iphone touch interface.)

    Typing normal text with zero force is indeed a bit awkward and having the ability mouse without moving hands away from position is useful but more awkward than a real mouse. Where this keyboard really shines are the gestures. e.g.:
    • swiping ring+middle+index+thumb in one of 8 directions switch to the appropriate virtual desktop (in 9x9 grid, scrunching fingers together for desktop 5 in middle)
    • dragging two fingers of left hand in 4 directions serve as repeated arrow keypresses
    • ring+middle+index+thumb for various window/browser operations, rotate hand clockwise to close window, squeeze toward center to save, swipe left to go back in browser,right=forward,down=reload, etc
    • instead of reaching far with pinky for shift/ctl/alt you can hold 4 fingers on home row, above or below to work as shift/ctl/alt
    • various other shortcuts for keys on the edges,like hit thumb+pinky for enter, thumb+middle for ^C, left thumb+middle for backspace(which can be dragged leftwards to swipe text away)
    Anyway, just some of the cool features that make up for the awkward typing. I wish they hadn't gone out of business. :)
  63. Pizza anyone? by Incadenza · · Score: 1

    My personal fav weird keyboard is the ErgoDex DX1 Keyboard.
    My personal favorite is Hella Jongerius' Weekly Dinner. Eating while typing had never been this easy!
  64. I just got my laser keyboard, and all I can say is by shoolz · · Score: 1

    welkcome to;l the keuboard of thd futuree@!

  65. Come on, the Microsoft Ergonomic! by smchris · · Score: 1

    In the Microsoft spirit of breaking compatibility, these idiots thought you would enjoy relearning how to type in order to type with a genuine Microsoft keyboard. 4,5,6 on the index finger of the left hand and 7 on the index finger of the right hand.

  66. Well, I don't know about you, but by rfc1394 · · Score: 1

    I think I'll stick with my keyboard from Inland. Sure, it's just a plain black keyboard, standard 110 key or whatever it is, and it isn't very fancy, but, then again, it only costs $8.00. I can't see spending as much as my monitor for a keyboard.

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  67. As time goes on-wheels get rounder. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well my new wheel will have E-ink key caps with electoluminesent backlighting.* And rubber grips were appropriate decked out in a black and silver color scheme with translusent highlights. And les I forget ergonomic design with M keyboard feel.

    *Changing the keyboard will be more than just a electronics thing.

  68. Maximus not really $450 by Loconut1389 · · Score: 1

    Last I looked, it was $450 if you only wanted ONE OLED key and still $1500ish if you wanted all of the OLEDs.

  69. Congrats on your NYR! by dafing · · Score: 1
    I never thought I would pick up touchtyping, surely you must be close to being able to touchtype being a programmer for so long?

    At my school we had this old bat who went on and on about strict manners etc, she went nuts about posture and having the B key lined up with your Belly Button (god!) etc. Started teaching typing with Keyboards haha, we found them one day in a closet, hard to imagine us using those instead of Word! Its a big leap for a 70 year old woman, when she was teaching us, from old cast iron looking things, to electronic cheap plastic, to Pentium II's running NT. We learned through The Boring Booklet, she actually called it that, where you typed words over and over for minutes and minutes, a long time when its "better, better, better, better...", however her lack of knowledge was great, she didnt cotton on to copy and paste!

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  70. New Keyboards Suck by barl0w2 · · Score: 1
    We all know that if we had a configurable keyboard that was an exact replica of the old clickity-clack IBM version that it'd sell out in days. Those keyboards were awesome - you knew exactly when and if you hit the key and the buttons were like molded to your fingers. At least that how I feel. That old-school IBM keyboard was THE BEST. I'd say the old Sun Sparc keyboards are next.

    Here's photos of the Optimus Maximus that I took at CES 2008 last week. OLED = sweet, but the value is no way near the $1500 price-tag.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/barl0w/2179127072/in/photostream/
    (scroll through to the next photo on the right-hand side)

  71. Twiddler 2 by conureman · · Score: 1

    Looks like a collector's item. It is amazing how much of this sort of neolithic kit I have stashed in my attic.

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  72. 2030 by wikinerd · · Score: 1

    page-up/page-down keys

    Try 2030, it has its own PgUp/PgDown/Home/End keys. It also has a third Shift key besides the spacebar. I have both 2020 and 2030 and I find 2030 better. I also use an external numpad with it as well, as 2030 is so small that it allows me to have multiple input devices on my desk instead of just a huge keyboard. In my current setup on the PC I am at the moment, I have a keypad and a little mouse on the left side, 2030 on the centre, and a trackball on the right. Only thing I want from 2030 is a centre Tab key (on OS level you can remap the centre Caps Lock to be a Tab, though). The matrix layout as opposed to the staggered columns layout is really one of the best selling points of TypeMatrix keyboards. Now if someone could put a 2030 into a ThinkPad laptop, that would be great...

    1. Re:2030 by holomorph · · Score: 1

      I never noticed the extra shift key and the pg-up and pg-down keys on the 2030. I did notice that they'd taken the tab key out of the middle, which is why I went with the 2020 (and I think because at the time I could get them cheaper on eBay).

      Thanks for the tip.

  73. They've definitely forgot one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The most important keyboard - Das Keyboard. Not only the sound is great but also the tactile feel is just awesome. And, as a matter of fact, you can write on them - fear my "EMACS"-labeled control key!

  74. IBM clicky by conureman · · Score: 1

    Wow, if I ever wear out my old keyboard, there might be a worthy replacement!

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